Lancia Stratos replica: is the Lister Bell STR kitcar better than the real thing?
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- The Lancia Stratos was a supercar like no other, but with just 492 built, values are vast. So what if you could get then Stratos look, sound and pace for £30k? Step forward Lister Bell STR kit car.
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If there's one kit car capable of leaving us besotted, it's the Lister Bell STR, a newly developed Lancia Stratos replica that is exquisitely put together. The appearance is bang on, the attention to detail is superb...and the driving position is better than the original's. Power comes from a 2.5-litre Alfa Romeo V6, which makes the right noises and, with about 190bhp, the right amount of shove. It steers and handles really sweetly, too. That you could put a lovely one together yourself for less than £30,000, or have a turn-key car for not much over £40,000, sent a lot of our staffers away to examine their finances.
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When the original Stratos came out, I thought it was certainly among the most beautiful cars ever built. I still think so.
Same here. I love the Delta, but this is different level.
If i had a spare £40G I'd buy one of these kit models!
Bruhh it came in 1978 and it looked way ahead of its time bruhh late seventies was ages ago, this thing looks fantastic even today!
The Stratos, the de Tomaso Pantera, and the C3 Corvette are probably the three most beautiful cars ever conceived.
God, but I love the Stratos: barking mad, beautiful design, and world beating race car. I'm praying that Lister Bell stay in business long enough for me to save up the dough for one!
Fred Burtt same here
Me four! I've been thinking the same thing since this video first came out. It's part of my retirement plan vacation.
Just credit card it
me too
Buy one used already built.
The easiest way to tell a real Stratos from a kitcar: If the shut lines are straight and even it's a kit.
Damn right. If I actually plan on driving the thing (and certainly if I’d wanna modify it), then I’d want a replica. The Stradale build quality control makes Tesla look like Lexus.
@@stoneylonesome4062 this is so true. LMFAO
I had the pleasure of following an STR on my drive back home on the Oswestry border two weeks ago. The roads were wet and it was still raining.He was in front of me, and I was heading to a junction where I turn right, at which point the road turns into a 5 mile sprint on windy roads, straight to my front door. I was delighted when the STR, was also turning right! When the few cars n front of us both turned off the main road at a major junction, the STR driver planted the throttle and I heard the Alfa V6 rev up. I kept up in my Audi S4 (V8) without trying too hard on the straights, and as we went through the bends I was impressed at how sure-footed the STR looked through the corners and the entry speeds in the wet! It sounded amazing, and had so much road-presence - it's a beautiful car and I hope I can catch the driver again some time to have a chat with him and if I'm lucky have a sit in it! If I had £40k to spend on a toy I'd go look at an STR, given Ferrari 360 prices have climbed so much!
Note the total lack of driver aids; a perfect demanding old school driver's car and for reasonably sensible money. Complete WoW factor in spades.
Maurizio Gandini, désigner of this beauty, just passed away Last week. This Lister is the Best hommage to his génius.
My favourite when I was a kid and it still is now. Stunning!
Same here. Old love never dies 😊
brand...gret&beutiful my dreem
I need cars‼️
That is hands down the meanest maddest bad asstest car ever. Very raw looking, love it.
And it has pop up headlights, so it's basically the coolest car ever.
I watch this about every three to four months. Can't get enough. So. Much. Want.
30 grand for that car, is a bargain!
If only I could afford one... :(
Its been 7 years. Can you now?
@@e.lake13 no way they are $30,000 still
Looking more like 150,000 now @@e.lake13
Love it! I remember back in 1989, the chap who lived next door to the college i went to had an original, often parked on the street, a Mr R Atkinson. Along with his 8v Integrale, Bentley turbo and Aston .
I've never wanted a kit-car until now! I have a 1/18 scale die-cast replica of this car.
Absolutely beautiful car; it's fast, has an awesome nostalgic look with all new components, and it's not even overpriced! That's one very cool kit car. Kit cars are really popular over here in the USA but I've yet to see any that are THIS cool!
Stunning, reinventing art to perfection. Reminds me of my Bertone x19, Yet it was underpowered, V6 and 850 kgs. Wow! Glad Bell is listening to its customers.
X19 had a straight 4 of 1.3 or 1.5L- same engines as the 128 (source I owned two). I take it you're not a mechanic:)
I don't drive (never have) but the Stratos is such a good looking car and sounds great and from what I can tell this replica hasn't totally removed that craziness that the original had.
Seen my 1st listerbell (stratos) in black/yellow rally colours, parked in hinckley, leics….. everyone was looking at it!! Superb machine!!💪💪👍👍👍
I fell in love with this car when I was 5 (1980)... other kids loved the Ferrari, Porsche, Countash or Corvette, but I loved the Stratosl! There was just something about the shape and proportions, the flower like 5 spoke wheels, the white, green and red graphics of ALITALIA. I've wanted this car for years, lol! Thanks for the video :)
I'm with Fred. Well said sir. These things are what 2 seaters are suppose to be. Nicely done Lister Bell!!!
I'll have mine in Alitalia tricolore-on-white,please...Dear Santa...
That Stratos is still BEAUTIFUL to this day in a way 1/2 of our modern "supercars" will never be... I'm still gutted Ferrari couldn't see the brilliance of the new "retro" 458 (???) based re-make, but it's awesome to know that there's a kit-car maker keeping the beauty alive in this modern age. And from looking over their site, it looks to be a work of art under there worthy of the original esp. if you could find and fit the Ferrari V8 and other pieces for the M model...
I want one of these, I need it...for life-saving purposes!
wow man this might seriously become on of my goals in life...
To me that car really is the most beautiful, timeless sports car that has ever been made!!!
All it needs is like 50 more horses all motor lol.
Always loved those gauges. Right out of my dad's 124 coupe.
Designed by Bertone? Yes, but all credit has to go to Marcello Gandini, who is not only the fantastic designer of the Lancia Stratos, but also of the spectacular Lamborghini Countach... And loads of other cars in fact. He is one of the geniussen of car design. Ever.
Gandini IS Bertone.
Like the rear view camera system instead of a rear view mirror 0:34
Had a kid my age recommend me one, tbh it would be my dirt road monster if I had one
My old car, why did I sell it?
Hopefully not too long before I sort out funds for another.
Great car, great drive, great fun.
Ciao amici.
Food for thought for our American cousins. reading the comments it seems quite a few would like to import this in kit form.From memory the original Stratos was never sold in the states due to it never meeting US legislation for emissions and a whole host of other issues such as pedestrian impact/headlight positioning etc. Lancia never built it as a road car, it was always built to win rallies, but a certain amount of Stradales had to be made available to the public for homologation purposes. I wonder if those rules would apply today to the Stratos kit?
+regfenster kit cars are exempt to emissions, crash testing etc.
Bill Gates of Microsoft fame pushed through legislation that covers all rare vehicles that allows almost any vehicle to be imported and driven.
Very beautiful!
In Italy does a 037 replica with Lancia Delta engine... 😁😁
Sorry for my english....
Do want!
why the headlights are flashing everytime it goes around bends?
Alfa electrics too?
My vote is the Alfa wiring harness lol...... I would have used a Ford eco boost motor that will have loads of part all throught Europe. Brilliant car to just look at even without a motor..... The Dr. Frankenstein in me thinks a turbo Hayabusa motor and sequential rowing through the gears could be fun for a track day car....
Haha its a "trick" in car videos. They blink headlights to viewers .
Because there is a cameraman waiting.
the headlight mechanisms are connected to the steering rack. OBVIOUSLY.
I want one . original color scheme. rally lights, but with a few minor changes, starting with Cusco suspension, Brembo Brakes, Holinger MF-2WD trans, Toda's 3.5L version C32b with itbs and a Taitec GT-009 ...
Imagine one that does 400+hp NA at 11000 RPM ... orgasm ...
I wanna have the 166 engine because it compliments the car so well, and then tune it and get it making around 320HP at the wheels.
Occa Drumma I also want a 575m GTC. Thing is, I even know where to get the parts, the real ones. Imagine: take that NSX engine, slap on a whacking great turbo, anti lag: 11,000 rpm BANGBANGBANG - a rally car crossed with F1. I can hear it already. It'll be like the golden age of JGTC with massive backfiring pillars of fire every time you downshift. I love the sound of antilag and that ungodly cackling wail.
I agree it needs hotter cams, lighter pistons and crank/flywheel etc.. though
This is about personal taste, but isnt it crazy that people want a many options in a car as possible? Bluetooth, navigation, phone connection, internet and shit. Don't get me wrong, some people need it for business or so.
I love a raw car without power steering, wich is light, a bit spacy and loves to take corners. So practicality and fun in one vehicle. Airconditioning and a radio is nice. A bit safety ok, but for the rest.
Bart ten Thije i agree. the more raw the better
Bart ten Thije I've got an '83 porsche 944 that's just what You mentioned! Stereo's broken, no power steering, power brakes but the kind that still need a little effort. Car is light and raw, plenty of road and engine noise. When I drive it around here it's like having the smallest car around as everything is so huge now, even Honda Civics!
Back "seats" will hold a decent amount of stuff, as will the rear area under the hatch. Best of all You can find decent 944's for under $5000, turbo models in some cases too, and parts are available, and kind of reasonable. There's also still plenty of knowledge base out there so finding information is easy. So while You might not be able to get a Stratos, there's options out there cheap!
Oldbmwr100rs was there ever a 944 turbo?
@@powersliding Yes. 200-250hp I think
9 years late but im here
Great that they sorted out the driving position
Great Car. Great Commentary. "It will be mine. Oh yes. It will be mine."
Who on earth would 'dislike' this?!?
Awesome job on the replica. If there's a car I would bring back this one would be the top one on my list.
Love the headlights.
Alitialia colours for me too. jaw droopingly gorgeous.
Yep, the only thing wrong with the car in this video is the paint job !
What a car!!
This replica is marvelous 👍🏻
I like stratos as and old , real sport car with no automation
All depent on driver
It s the best looking car ever but to make really like the original I would paint the wheels light gold, that s the way it should be.
Old school no frills, no gadget thing which does not drive itself for you with systems of letters like ABC or QWERTY ;) But wasn't Stratos itself borrowing a lot of parts from Ferrari 206/246 Dino ?
+onsese joo the engine was a v6 dino plant but the alfa motor they use in these is more reliable and much much cheaper
The stratos surely is my dream car.
And I need 40 grand for this!
ditch the alfa motor and get the 400 bhp supercharged toyota 3.5 that lotus uses. that's my dream car.
Got to have Webers Carbs on there 45 down droughts with ram tubes and wire covers like the old 1960 Ferrari's - then it will sound correct and make a lot more horsepower too : )
I'd love to hear this running open Webers.
I'm more interested in classic racing cars than anything else, you can enter events with them and you can also drive them on the street. but i can't afford one, thats where these cars come in. you can enter racing series with these cars or rallies as well as drive them on the road. personally i would buy a super car for road trips and the occasional sunday blast. but i would prefer a car that i can race in more
There is so much love for Lancia,its positively criminal that FIAT are letting it wither away.Maybe they should reposition them as DS rival and give them another chance.
Is this the car that is a work of art? A boys dream. Thanks mister Bertone.
As a petrolhead, if i could get one of these, my life would be complete. Everything in this car is perfect in my view. It's just a shame you can't have the glorious 2.4 Ferrari engine.
Looks great and sounds good enough. I want one!
My favorite car in DiRT Rally 2.0.
Lovely looking thing.. does take me back to my schoolboy days
Why isnt it red , only joking , the stratos was designed to spend most of its forward motion going round corners the short wheelbase meant that driving in a strait line was the hard bit . What a car ,designed for the job in hand . A masterpiece and often a copy can be better than the original !!!!! Ac cobra comes to mind . Well done lads .
You can actually get pretty much any engine that can fit that's available to the public with this car, but you get the Alpha 166 running gear if you don't specify anything. Lister Bell will go out of their way to equip the vehicle to meet the customer's needs.
I really enjoy your show. Thanks so much for doing these, very well done. This was my first one. Liked and subscribed! Keep up the good work!
Well, if its a kit car, you're building it yourself, instead of a dissatisfied Italian building it with one hand, smoking with the other, all whilst listening to a union agitator and thinking bitterly of his wife's lover. How could it not be better?
Lol, you paint an awesome picture with those words!
I hope they sell as many as they can make. This is lovely.
Such a gorgeous car
Simply brilliant--one of my all-time favorite cars--I wonder if you could import a fully-built example to the USA, or if it would have to come in pieces to be considered a kit car???--I don't trust myself or anyone other than the designers to piece it together ;)
Look for their site & contact. I m sure it is not an issue.
It is one hell of a wonderful shape. One of Gandini's best.
Beautiful car absolutely stunning , great vid
My dream rally cars: Audi Quattro S1, Ford RS200 and Lancia Stratos
WHY AM I POOR??
LOL. 😀😀
+Vladimir Putin Vladimir, is it you ? Please, come bombing the Berlaymont, and let's write a new future for Europe, full of joy, togehter, in the respect of each Nations !
omnivorace Lets see what we do about it.
It's just a prank bruh.
Love at first sight
Sounds brilliant... take my money...
A car from the outer univers ❤️🇮🇹🌟
Love the look of this car ( always have ) But not with a Alfa motor. Would love to see one with a Chevy LS motor
Kit cars are almost a cruel joke of nature. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying they are bad. What I am saying is they don't match the normal human maturation cycle.
Example: When I was young I wanted a kit car so bad I couldn't see straight. Problem is, when I was young, I didn't have the money or the patients, diligence & skill to assemble one. Now that I am older, I have the money, I have the skills but my taste in cars has changed. Life just isn't fair.
+shananagans5 Speak for yourself, mate!
It only takes a casual glance at Total Kit Car, Kit Car Builder or Complete Kit Car magazines to see many builders are middle-aged and older. Empty-nesters and retirees have more time, money and space available to indulge.
When does a classic-looking car lose its appeal? Only when you can't have a practical daily driver to complement it.
Paul Azadian Absolutely. Those are the much smaller % that can afford it & have the time & skill & haven't shifted their interests.
Now, I am more interested in a classic Porsche or something like that instead of a wild kit car & that's pretty typical but,as you point out, not everyone changes taste as they get older.
There certainly are some 50+ year olds that still want a hot kit but, I can guarantee you, for every 50 year old out there building a hot kit, there are 30+ young guys out there drooling over it but don't have the $$.
A body conversion is easier and cheaper!
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If that Kalifornia was made locally, I'd be in.
Paul Azadian That is very nice. The quality of things like that has come up quite a bit over the last 20 years. I wanted a Ferrari GTO body on a 240Z back in the day. I was going to put one of those Buick 231 V6 Grand National engines in it. I actually got the Buick V6 & it sat in my garage for 25+ years & I never got around to doing it. Typical excuses, school, career etc.
I agree, that Kalifornia looks nice. I also agree, I would be reluctant to buy something from a small company in Britain. Practical issues like could you get a new body panel if you get hit or something. Shipping large items overseas is a hassle etc.
shananagans5
Yeah, shipping is killer. Plus you'd have to deal with typical fibreglass issues over time.
That Kali is an MX5 underneath, so I'd want to get a NA V6 in there, most likely the Mazda 2.5 or whatever.
If someone here had the molds, it would be my next weekend car...
They definitely should do an 037 stradale replica...
Newsflash ,,,They do ,
0:35 Is this a rear view mirror? Can't see what the screen shows, but it's really cool if that's the case, given the lack of visibility a traditional mirror would offer
Rear view camera.
I love this car!
this + the Cobra replica please!
outstanding ... i fucking love this car !!! ..sorry for the bad language but ...
Now this with a new Guilia's twin turbo v6
Rather enthusiastic review and for good reason, I'd like to see more technical video, but that aside, why on earth do the headlights keep popping up? Are they connected to the clutch? Or are you actually getting bored going thought the corners?
WANT
Seriously cool machine
With shipping to the USA , what would the total price be? And would someone donate that amount to me? Prolonged silence -that's what I was afraid of. Oh well, a guy can dream.
We get it. Pop-up headlights
Does it come with right hand drive?
This may be a stupid question but what is the deal with the headlights?
they pop up and down alot
ok seems kinda silly but a cool car.thanks
when you flash the lights on a car with pop up head lights they automatically pop up .
I used to have a Porsche 914 and when other Porsche's went by me going the other way they would flash there lights at me. Its a way of saying "Hi".
Nothing wrong with V6 Alfa engine, the best in the world. As a manner of fact , it beats the .... out of the the Ferrari / Fiat V6 engine.
Nice..... But I'm suspicious of a kit car.
Very tempting.....lots of fun.....awesome looking....you can put it together yourself
Baktash Bootorabi The GTA V6 (the famous Busso engine which was built 30 years till 2005) had a good sound but was a delicat bitch for valves adjust. For better emissions, the Alfa 166 got the heavy GM Holden V6 which is a dog, an overweighted lazy dog not made by Alfa, even with a tuned exhaust. The naturally aspirated V6, new Penstar 3.6 L of FCA is much better and best turbo v6 today are maybe the Nissan GTR and Martinelli's V6 3 liter made for Maserati with a US cast alu block similar to the Penstar block cyl spacing and tis V6 was developped alongwith the similar 3.90 liter V8 for Ferrari calif. T with the same unique Ferrari DI syst. and twin turbo. Philgood
Note the best V6 diesel is definitely the compacted graphite cast iron Audi TDI V6 3 l. which does not soud like a diesel but runs like one...
Philippe Suter Strange... the Alfa 166 was designed before the joint Fiat-GM. For what i know, the 166 never had the GM Holden V6, only the Busso engines.
Gufo_Tave you are right, the Holden came only in the alfa 159 , the 166 had the Arese Alfa Romeo (Busso) at 2.5 and 3 litres, I missunderstood the video thinking that Lister Bell fitted a current emissions compliant V6 engine, the one of the 159. The Busso makes this Stratos replica certainly more attractive on tracks but impossible to certify at Euro 6b level here in Europe. Too bad, mid engines Cayman Boxster and evora would have there an ideal italien 6 cyl. conterpart since the 4C is small and a F488 GTB downsized to Martinelli's V6 too big. The Ferrari Dino and Lancia Statos show that historically such market exists: the Renault Alpine will be an expensive GTR power train poorly packaged if it comes up, so there is room for more. Philgood
1:47 the air intake is terrible. The Alfa V6 engine is amazing but its will be hot as hell in the engine bay, need to get a proper cold air intake. It looks like a good car though.
"The air intake is terrible", a bold statement for someone who has never seen one. Children and their "proper cold air intake" fixation. The cone air filter is situated immediately behind a cool air intake in the left hand side of the rear clamshell. The clamshell itself is exceptionally well ventilated by use of louvres. Effectively the engine is open to the ambient atmosphere, plenty of room for thermal management, unlike in your escort. Get your facts right.
WANT!
is there a right-hand drive version?
this is my dream car and if I had £40.000 Mr bell can build me one
I think a kit car is perfect for things you wouldn't do to the real thing. For example putting carbon bits on. Or putting a big engine (2JZ for example) putting a spoiler on or just driving it really hard.
With 30k I would get it in a heart beat
+Steve L it's a inline 6 after all. That's possible to make it work. Another good engine would be the Volvo t4
why does everyone keep going on about the same bloody 2jz, its boring. you cant fit one in there, you just cant.
I was thinking 'bout 2GR-FE S, too. It did good in Evora S and in this car it will be a blast. 2JZ willn't work, 'cause it will pain in the ass to convet it to transverse position. I was thinking about Audi's engine from S3 (2.0 TFSI), it goes with manual and i think it will fit. Or just go full NUTS and put one from RS3 (RS3 2.5 TFSI), but it goes only with stupid 7-speed S tronic and that's big "no no" is Stratos. I'm talking that it will need to be new suspension, brakes, tires and full on rigidity uprate.
@@Will-gd9dx I've seen someone put a 2jz in a mini so I'm calling bulshit you can't fit it where that vovlo monster is
If you install taller struts and taller tires on an Exige, wouldn't it be very similar to this?
Absolutely BEAUTIFUL CAR subbed
wow it's a lister? no wonder. the lister storm is a beast
No, NOT that Lister. Completely different company.
Putting aside 10k a year for this
Chris D'oulmeth My question too hah
dontthink Why would there be a two year wait? If it takes them that long to put together a kit there's something wrong. Especially if the customer is doing the assembly.
Did you get it...it's been four years.
@@gerardov.9716 If he has it he won't have time to answer 😅
@Pollywog saying the TR7 looks the same as a stratos is like saying the SD1 was a perfect replica of a Ferrari Daytona . You can see the resemblance, but also see they are totally different
nice ......but i would ever affort such a thing and could choose ....i would prefer a 037 based maybe on a 4C ?
Lister builds this? Well you know it's a high quality product then.
Lister is a Jaguar tuner and maker of a front engined vintage sports car. This is a different company called ListerBell. Check them out: www.listerbell.com/
Does anyone know if this would be legal in the states since it's technically an Alfa 166? I really do hope it is
If you have the $30 grand kit imported to states like Oregon then after building it you can license it as the same car it is replicated as. After this you can drive it anywhere in the USA because it's title will say Lancia Stratos on it. Your insurance will be less than an original Stratos also :D
Is it legal to import in the US?
Nice bodyworks and engine sound.. 30k for the kit? Quite compelling!
It's not £30,000 apparently.
But does the chassis flex when the engine revs up ? The original was awesomly mad, ludicrous to the extreme and beautifuly insane.
"Stratos qui décolle, chassis qui gondole !" as we say in France.