one thing i like about this game is how by acknowledging the player as separate and outside of the game it further invests the player as if they are a character in the game
6:32 A bit misleading, Kip wasn't trying to Tame Silver, they were trying to program a robot to be already tamed, taming might not even have been known about at that point. It's only after Silver went rogue due to code conflicts that the Author stepped in and tamed Silver. 6:50 The Tower might not have existed in the Old World, although Silver does say the Author wanted to study it so it also may have. 7:40 So it's never stated what the catastrophe that destoryed the Old World was but it is stated the New world has been decaying long before the sun vanished (I'm pretty sure) with the decay meaning the square particles. So the sun vanishing was more likely a product of the Authors narrative than the actual catastrophe. Of course it could also be that the New World was built to resemble the Old World before its destruction and the sun vanishing was a replication of that real catastophe. 9:02 You forgot to mention that the reason the trees were cut down was due to the large amounts of Green Phosphor in their sap. 9:12 Just incase you don't cover this later. The prophecy was right (probably) but they wanted more details so they built Prototype, the original Prophetbot. They determined the Messiah wouldn't be born for a *very* long time, the world they were to save would be long gone. Also the Messiah wasn't Niko. 9:37 Yeah Kip wasn't working on Taming, a big part of Silver and Kips relationship is how Kip *didn't* try to tame Silver, Kip gave up on her. 9:51 and 10:04 So the thing with Silver (it was explained, atleast partially) that she was bound by her code which was super contradictory and went crazy because of it, identically to what happened to the World Machine infact. Both were programmed with contradicting code and they couldn't handle it until after they were Tamed and thus able to think outside their programming. 10:22 Oh wow yeah, you totally skipped over the Author saving Silver and going through the effort of Taming her, it was likely him or Silver who chose for her to go to the Barrens. 10:41 Okay, the necklace was from the Author and Silver probably has a really complicated relationship with Kip. Kip's basically her mother who also thoroughly failed SIlver and who either abandoned her or came very close to doing so. 10:56 and 11:00Wrong Prophetbot, that one is the latter simplification on Prototypes design. 11:10 Prototype was the final design. The purpose of Prophetbot wasn't originally to greet the Messiah, it was to see the future (i.e. make prophecies) so they could find the Messiah. Unfortunately it turned out the Messiah wouldn't be born until it was WAAAAAYYY too late to do anything. 11:18 Silver says that the initial panic from the sun dissapearing was what caused the evacuation of the mines. 11:34, the reason they left the robots behind is because all their ships got messed up by square particles (keep in mind this happned in the New World, we don't know what happened in the Old World) Also they didn't take the battery, the left it but it ran out of charge after a week, it somehow ended up in a crate in the same building with a busted lens. 11:40 There are four robots in the barrens with their own power units, Prophetbot, Silver, the protecter of the town and Prototype. 11:53 It is, panic over the sun vanishing. But yeah, there *are* a lot of broken things so an earthquake isn't too unlikely, most likely caused by the square particles (You're using a lot of New World info in your Old World section.) 12:05 That's what Prototype was for! 12:55 It wasn't *just* the Author but yeah. 13:10 The Glen used to be one solid landmass, no islands. 13:15 Music boxes *are* cool. 13:23 Helped?! I recently went over both regular and Solstice runs and while I don't remember precisely I'm pretty damned sure he was almost solely responsible for Silver and Prototypes Taming. 13:33 The Author designed and built Protoype*, so it wasn't really adoption like the way you imply here. *I'm pretty sure anyway. 14:05 So it's actually stated that he got the memories of everyone he knows and made a big database of all these memories to make the New World with. It wasn't very easy to translate this stuff to actual code tho. 14:30 Yeah, the version of the New World we see however has much less and also... pruned versions of the originals. 17:11 That's probably why George constantly gets more and more manuscripts from the Author. He wanted to preserve the whole world but constraints made him downscale the World Machine, to compensate he probably scanned and wrote and much as possible to upload to the New World so there'd at least be writings of the things he cared about. 17:53 Okay, don't call the World Machine Tamed at this point, it probably was to a degree but a key aspect of being Tamed is for the robot to believe itself to be Tamed, which the World Machine very much did not. 25:00 and 25:36 Again, it was from the Author, not Kip Also, fun fact. Due to how the World Machine works i.e. only able to operate with a mental link, the New World *should* be directly, as in seconds after the Author dissappeared. Well theoretically anyway, the timeline is kinda odd if you take the whole mental link thing into account. 27:16 Omg, I just realised something. Alula named her fox plush Ruby, the real fox is named Rue. Rue, Ruby. 28:30 - 28:36. Very cool. 31:40 So my head canon for why those clovers are so resilient (not that that needs an explanation) is because the Author liked them so much they programmed them to be "sUpEr ToUgH!!1!1!" 32:05 It is a bit odd isn't it? It is also consistent tho. I guess something about being with the Messiah/Tower sustains it? 32:16 You forgot to menion the World Machine also tells you how the only way to send Niko back is to break the Sun. (EDIT: ah you mentioned it a bit later.) Actually, fun fact. Both the Author and the World Machine go to lie to you about what will happen with the sun to manipulate you to do what they want but decide against it and instead tell you the truth, like father like... sun... good pun but doesn't work as the World Machine has no gender. 32:25 Okay so, get ready for a monologue. The choice at the top of the tower has three layers, in the first it is a dilemma, in the second it is obvious and in the third it isn't so clear. The first layer is that shattering the sun will send Niko home but destroy the world and restoring the sun will, if not save then at least greatly help the people of the world, it'll make things better and give them all hope but Niko will be trapped in the Tower forever (yeah I thought they'd just be trapped in the world with their new friends but the World Machine explicitly states that Niko will be trapped alone in the Tower, unable to escape as they needed your help to get in and the World Macine can't get them out). This reading of it is an actual dillema. The second layer is the realisation that the world isn't real, it's a simulation and crucially, simulations only progress in time if they're running and once the game ends that's it, the game won't run anymore, Niko will be trapped and frozen in time if you restore the sun, the people of the world will experience a brief moment of hope and joy and then nothing, forever. If you shatter the sun then they will instantly cease to exist but Niko, the only living person, will get to go home. In this reading it's obvious what the correct choice is. The third layer takes into account the Solstice run. That the mental link ISN'T broken despite what happened in the previous ending and so wouldn't it be better not to tell Niko about the terrible dillema and let them think they had both saved the world AND got to go home? Atleast until the Solstice run itself where they DO get to save both. In this reading it is again a dillema. 34:20, It'd get these powers from programs the Author left embedded in it, things like 'if read by the Messiah at (X, Y, Z) spawn a minecart at (Y, Z, X)' 43:40 So the reason the library is as tough as it is, is because it was specifically built to withstand the square corruption, just incase a shelter was ever needed. Good foresight there. 46:54 Funfact! when you get to Prototypes room at the start of a Solstice run a monitor turns on which Silver investigates, she eventually finds heaps of aerial camera feeds of *everywhere* but the cameras should have been visibly floating over those areas, there's even one in her house and she's never seen any of these cameras so she's quite confused. What she saw though was the World Machines and Your perspectives. You can see what she saw in the these monitors inside the World Machine. 48:47 This isn't the arguement Niko makes. Niko tells the World Machine about how, in this unprecedented crisis which neither it, nor any of its inhabitants were programmed to handle, everyone STILL figured out things to do, the refuge at the library, the evacuations, Silver sacrifincing herself, Plight going back for the evacuees, none of this was in their programming yet they did it anyway and everything in the world, including the NPCs are already part of the World Machine, so how couldn't it already be Tamed? 51:21 There are no residents of the Old World there, I mean maybe Rue, Prototype and Cedric count but they're copies of the originals so they don't really count. Well except maybe Prototype, they were already a robot so it probably would have been easy just to uploaded them to the World Machine. Good video.
@@Aven9764 not everything is correct though, keep that in mind. Some stuff is just headcanon and speculation, nevertheless, still a very nice and interesting comment to read.
I would like to add some things as I am HEAVILY into OneShot lore rn According to the fandom wiki, George didn't actually exist in the old world, rather being created to pay tribute to a resident of the old world who believed in the multiverse theory. Though, I believe the only implication of this in the game itself is the readable book in the fourth room with a usable bed: *"...but she deeply believed in the multiverse theory. Regarding alternate versions, she likened the probability to the rolling of dice. (...) It felt only right to honor her this way. There are six. Which one did you encounter?"* This may also imply that George was not an objecthead in the old world, though considering her gimmick of having a different personality based on which side of the die was her face, I find the former easier to believe. I also discovered evidence of when the world's sun roughly went out. At one point, Alula says that she's only seen the sun atop the tower as a baby. Nightmargin has confirmed that Alula is younger than Niko on tumblr, but I doubt it'd be difficult to come to that conclusion from the game itself. This means that the sun went out within a small range under 8 years before the events of OneShot. I choose to believe that the sun is relit from Niko's presence just because Niko is the messiah and the simulation was programmed that way for whatever reason.
My opinion on the object heads was that it was a result of corruption and reprogramming, maybe it was simpler or just a side effect that tied how they appear to some aspect of themselves. I don't believe the original were like that, and it is just how they are inside the simulation basically. There may just not have been enough time to try and correct it. Or maybe it was just faster, to try and finish everything before it was too late, since george may have been more on purpose? idk, i havent looked up if there are any facts about them so i could be wildly off.
2:10 Okay Niko _would_ commit arson though. When you interact with one of the three jars of liquids outside of one of the houses in the village in the glen, Niko responds to the alcohol with 'I don't know why adults like drinking this stuff so much. Alcohol is for setting things on fire!'.
I think in Solstice the world got the happy End. Emphasis on "End". They say that the world will live on in Nico's and Player's memories and hearts, meaning the world itself is gone when the game is closed one last time.
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wish me luck, tomorrow is my exposition, I'm just going to talk about Oneshot ( I'm not including Solstice), I feel excited about it so yeah, really thanks for this video
this was an absolutely BEAUTIFUL retelling of the game!! great job!! i wish i could go indepth rambling about everything as this is definitely one of my favourite games, but i'm having trouble getting the words out. i do love how you focused on mistakes being what makes people though, it was something i didn't realize myself at the time and got me emotional while it slowly clicked. everyone in the world has made mistakes, they're not perfect, but nobody is! twm has spent far too long hating themself for a mistake they made, feeling like they failed their creator by not being the perfect re-imagining he wanted. but here they are, still standing, their happy ending reached. everything turned out okay. that deserves some self-forgiveness, right?
Corrections (Last updated 6/27/2024): 6:16 George's 6 different personalities are likely inserted into the simulation by the Author, as stated in the book next to the bed in the library: "she deeply believed in the multiverse theory. Regarding alternate versions, she likened the probability to the rolling of the dice." Further down in the book it states "Nevertheless, I still wrote it to the best of my abilities. After all, it only felt right to honor her this way." It's unclear who George was originally based off of, but she definitely didn't exist in the Old World (Thanks to @Cdoggle). 9:40 At one of point, Alula states that she's "only seen the sun when [she] was a little baby." As Alula is around 7 years old (not 100% confirmed, only stated by NightMargin on social media), it can be assumed that the Sun went out roughly 6-8 years before the game starts (Thanks to @Cdoggle). 11:40 I state that Silver and Prototype were left as the only functioning robots left in the Barrens, but I also completely forgot about Prophetbot. He was also active in the barrens (even if he wasn't tamed). 32:06 I say that the Sun is relit in only 2 places in the game, but I forgot to include the very beginning of the game when Niko picks up the Sun. It can be argued that the Sun isn't "relit" here since the new Sun hasn't been lit up before, but it's still worth mentioning. Additionally, the Sun is only relit whenever Niko touches it after it hasn't been touched by them in a while, so this could be a possible explanation (Thanks to @user-gx7vq3vb4y). 0:06 it took literally 1 week for this statement to become outdated 0:56 holy crap was the video always corrupted here? thank you davinci resolve for doing a good job rendering. 0:35 sorry oneshot but after playing omori i might have to bump you down to 3rd place.
Lore: Nightmargin said on Tumblr that Niko's father had probably been working out of town since Niko was very young, since Niko hadn't seen him enough to mention him in conversations.
Fun fact: Gir, the programmer of the Steam release of OneShot has actually made games with NightMargin wayyy before oneshot - some notable (though never finished) ones being WTF Story, Tess and Bless you, Rip. He was even one of the original game's playtesters (credited as Michael as thats his real name :p) After the many years of working together on games, he and NightMargin are now married!
During the event where you have to move the three characters' files to another folder, you can instead delete their character files and they would disappear from the game. I am disappointed in myself for not trying to instead copy their files.
What if the light bulb is not a source of energy? As we have already been told, bulb is just a tool for connecting Niko and this world. And since TWM requires a living creature from another world (Niko) to work, it can be said with certainty that the sun, as it were, takes energy from Niko. Therefore, it does not glow when Niko has not touched it for a long time (the beginning of the game, when Niko leaves the sun and at the end of the game). The world was turned into a story because Niko is needed for its full functioning (since the light bulb only works when Niko touches it again), and to let Niko go, the Author put an end to the story.
In other words, the simulation is finite because it requires Niko's mind, and the light bulb that connects Niko to this world only glows when used and has physical contact with Niko (as a source of intelligence, idk)
@@creastive The idea that the lightbulb requires Niko's contact with it seems very plausible actually. When I think about it, those seem to be the only times that Niko is away from the Sun for an extended period of time, and both Niko and the Sun are incredibly important parts of keeping the simulation running. I think the only thing that I would have to disagree with is the lightbulb not being a source of energy in the simulation, as in the beginning of the game you use it to charge up the solar battery used to power the robots in the barrens.
@@pixelbit_ I have to disagree with your last statement. Thatthe battery is recharged with the sun doesn't mean the sun itself is the source. Niko is probably still the source while the sun acts as a relay/condutit/canalizer. Additionally, since the sun seems to work inside the tower, the tower must have a powersource, maybe the computer ot twm or smth else, that replaces niko as the original source.
This actually makes sense, except the ending. if this is true, and the simulations need the mind of an external being to run, this dilemma would be solved by the time the solstice ending happens. the world machine itself, after being fully tamed, becomes an entity, and i think they themselves replaces niko as the provider of that "external mind".
I think what happened is Kip tried to skip taming altogether. I don't think taming was new, although I will concede Kip's dialogue strongly suggests that it was.
Great video! I'd just like to add my theory of why the Sun gets relit when Niko touches it. Some of the characters in the Glen (like Alula I think?) state that they recognize Niko as the Messiah even when they're not carrying the Sun because their eyes glow yellow in the dark. You can see this especially whenever they go through a loading zone and everything goes pitch black except their eyes and the Sun. That makes me wonder if Niko has some rare, naturally occurring source of yellow phosphor that allows them to act as a sort of conduit or circuit for the Sun while they're carrying it, and the charge is able to persist for a short time after they let go. Perhaps this is part of why they're selected as the Messiah too. Also, I wonder if the Author is actually dead as well, because don't Prototype and Cedric mention him coming back to help recode the Solstice ending and putting everything he's got into this "One last Shot"? That would also explain the letter to Rue when the Countdown Clock timer reaches zero, and provide a lore reason why the Solstice ending wasn't there when the game originally launched. Because it was specifically "coded in" once a loop was completed and he noticed the program wasn't completing as intended.
32:00 three places actually, if you include the start of the game. When not plugged in, it's able to be lit by the touch of the Messiah. When separated, it eventually fades out again. I thought it was explained but maybe I imagined it.
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Absolutely love the retelling of this game! It gave me a fresh lens of the whole overall story and how amazing it really is after not playing it for a few years
There's actually another kinda secret ending I think. It might only be in the first build but I heard when you get the dilemma at the tower if you close the game you. both shatter the lightbulb and kill Niko so it's the equivalent to trolley problem's solution of going off rail to kill everyone.
That should only be in the 2014 release of the game. Nightmargin removed closing the game resulting in killing Niko from the Steam release when it got remade.
@@pixelbit_ Alright. I wasn't sure because I heard it on the fandom but then saw a vid of it on the build and I thought "wait a min waw it really on the Steam release?"
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32:04 could it be the new suns default state? Like if you unload it as an object, it's being reset/respawned when you approach it again. And the condition for it to light up is to be picked up by the Messiah (Niko). Just a quick guess from me.
Me costo entender algunas cosas de este video, porque como verán, mi idioma principal no es el ingles, lol. Igual, haciendo un esfuerzo y usando traductor pude entender lo que se decia en el video y me pareció muy bueno!!!
Tbh For me It doesn't make sense for the sun go out 8 years before the events of OneShot I mean Alula is *younger* than Niko If she truly is 7, how could she even have *seen* the sun? I mean, yeah, being born after Niko, but that's the *point*
Excellent Video, I really liked how you explained and paced everything here My only question about the game is the room at the start and the end of the game as it feels so odd in how it doesn't really connect to anything yet it is returned to for both the end of the standard game and solstice so I want to know if anyone knows anything special about it
I'm not actually too sure about that room, but I believe that the Author put it in so that the simulation would mirror the prophecy in the Old World as accurately as possible. The Messiah of the Old World was to wake up in a dark house, so he programmed in a dark house. The reason Niko returns to the house in is never explicitly stated, so it may just be there for poetic value (ending your journey where you began). There's also a book in the first house that you can read which says "ad infinitum" (to infinity), but when you go back to the house in the end, the book now says "ad finitum" (to an end). Not entirely sure whether that implies something in the lore or if it's just an easter egg, but it's cool nonetheless.
AHHHHHH I've had that at the top of my "to play" list for so long but I'm not currently in a state we're I'd be fine with its themes. Really looking forward to playing it when I can though.
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one thing i like about this game is how by acknowledging the player as separate and outside of the game it further invests the player as if they are a character in the game
And without antagonizing the player
6:32 A bit misleading, Kip wasn't trying to Tame Silver, they were trying to program a robot to be already tamed, taming might not even have been known about at that point. It's only after Silver went rogue due to code conflicts that the Author stepped in and tamed Silver.
6:50 The Tower might not have existed in the Old World, although Silver does say the Author wanted to study it so it also may have.
7:40 So it's never stated what the catastrophe that destoryed the Old World was but it is stated the New world has been decaying long before the sun vanished (I'm pretty sure) with the decay meaning the square particles. So the sun vanishing was more likely a product of the Authors narrative than the actual catastrophe. Of course it could also be that the New World was built to resemble the Old World before its destruction and the sun vanishing was a replication of that real catastophe.
9:02 You forgot to mention that the reason the trees were cut down was due to the large amounts of Green Phosphor in their sap.
9:12 Just incase you don't cover this later. The prophecy was right (probably) but they wanted more details so they built Prototype, the original Prophetbot. They determined the Messiah wouldn't be born for a *very* long time, the world they were to save would be long gone. Also the Messiah wasn't Niko.
9:37 Yeah Kip wasn't working on Taming, a big part of Silver and Kips relationship is how Kip *didn't* try to tame Silver, Kip gave up on her.
9:51 and 10:04 So the thing with Silver (it was explained, atleast partially) that she was bound by her code which was super contradictory and went crazy because of it, identically to what happened to the World Machine infact. Both were programmed with contradicting code and they couldn't handle it until after they were Tamed and thus able to think outside their programming.
10:22 Oh wow yeah, you totally skipped over the Author saving Silver and going through the effort of Taming her, it was likely him or Silver who chose for her to go to the Barrens.
10:41 Okay, the necklace was from the Author and Silver probably has a really complicated relationship with Kip. Kip's basically her mother who also thoroughly failed SIlver and who either abandoned her or came very close to doing so.
10:56 and 11:00Wrong Prophetbot, that one is the latter simplification on Prototypes design.
11:10 Prototype was the final design. The purpose of Prophetbot wasn't originally to greet the Messiah, it was to see the future (i.e. make prophecies) so they could find the Messiah. Unfortunately it turned out the Messiah wouldn't be born until it was WAAAAAYYY too late to do anything.
11:18 Silver says that the initial panic from the sun dissapearing was what caused the evacuation of the mines.
11:34, the reason they left the robots behind is because all their ships got messed up by square particles (keep in mind this happned in the New World, we don't know what happened in the Old World) Also they didn't take the battery, the left it but it ran out of charge after a week, it somehow ended up in a crate in the same building with a busted lens.
11:40 There are four robots in the barrens with their own power units, Prophetbot, Silver, the protecter of the town and Prototype.
11:53 It is, panic over the sun vanishing. But yeah, there *are* a lot of broken things so an earthquake isn't too unlikely, most likely caused by the square particles (You're using a lot of New World info in your Old World section.)
12:05 That's what Prototype was for!
12:55 It wasn't *just* the Author but yeah.
13:10 The Glen used to be one solid landmass, no islands.
13:15 Music boxes *are* cool.
13:23 Helped?! I recently went over both regular and Solstice runs and while I don't remember precisely I'm pretty damned sure he was almost solely responsible for Silver and Prototypes Taming.
13:33 The Author designed and built Protoype*, so it wasn't really adoption like the way you imply here. *I'm pretty sure anyway.
14:05 So it's actually stated that he got the memories of everyone he knows and made a big database of all these memories to make the New World with. It wasn't very easy to translate this stuff to actual code tho.
14:30 Yeah, the version of the New World we see however has much less and also... pruned versions of the originals.
17:11 That's probably why George constantly gets more and more manuscripts from the Author. He wanted to preserve the whole world but constraints made him downscale the World Machine, to compensate he probably scanned and wrote and much as possible to upload to the New World so there'd at least be writings of the things he cared about.
17:53 Okay, don't call the World Machine Tamed at this point, it probably was to a degree but a key aspect of being Tamed is for the robot to believe itself to be Tamed, which the World Machine very much did not.
25:00 and 25:36 Again, it was from the Author, not Kip
Also, fun fact. Due to how the World Machine works i.e. only able to operate with a mental link, the New World *should* be directly, as in seconds after the Author dissappeared. Well theoretically anyway, the timeline is kinda odd if you take the whole mental link thing into account.
27:16 Omg, I just realised something. Alula named her fox plush Ruby, the real fox is named Rue. Rue, Ruby.
28:30 - 28:36. Very cool.
31:40 So my head canon for why those clovers are so resilient (not that that needs an explanation) is because the Author liked them so much they programmed them to be "sUpEr ToUgH!!1!1!"
32:05 It is a bit odd isn't it? It is also consistent tho. I guess something about being with the Messiah/Tower sustains it?
32:16 You forgot to menion the World Machine also tells you how the only way to send Niko back is to break the Sun. (EDIT: ah you mentioned it a bit later.) Actually, fun fact. Both the Author and the World Machine go to lie to you about what will happen with the sun to manipulate you to do what they want but decide against it and instead tell you the truth, like father like... sun... good pun but doesn't work as the World Machine has no gender.
32:25 Okay so, get ready for a monologue. The choice at the top of the tower has three layers, in the first it is a dilemma, in the second it is obvious and in the third it isn't so clear.
The first layer is that shattering the sun will send Niko home but destroy the world and restoring the sun will, if not save then at least greatly help the people of the world, it'll make things better and give them all hope but Niko will be trapped in the Tower forever (yeah I thought they'd just be trapped in the world with their new friends but the World Machine explicitly states that Niko will be trapped alone in the Tower, unable to escape as they needed your help to get in and the World Macine can't get them out). This reading of it is an actual dillema.
The second layer is the realisation that the world isn't real, it's a simulation and crucially, simulations only progress in time if they're running and once the game ends that's it, the game won't run anymore, Niko will be trapped and frozen in time if you restore the sun, the people of the world will experience a brief moment of hope and joy and then nothing, forever. If you shatter the sun then they will instantly cease to exist but Niko, the only living person, will get to go home. In this reading it's obvious what the correct choice is.
The third layer takes into account the Solstice run. That the mental link ISN'T broken despite what happened in the previous ending and so wouldn't it be better not to tell Niko about the terrible dillema and let them think they had both saved the world AND got to go home? Atleast until the Solstice run itself where they DO get to save both. In this reading it is again a dillema.
34:20, It'd get these powers from programs the Author left embedded in it, things like 'if read by the Messiah at (X, Y, Z) spawn a minecart at (Y, Z, X)'
43:40 So the reason the library is as tough as it is, is because it was specifically built to withstand the square corruption, just incase a shelter was ever needed. Good foresight there.
46:54 Funfact! when you get to Prototypes room at the start of a Solstice run a monitor turns on which Silver investigates, she eventually finds heaps of aerial camera feeds of *everywhere* but the cameras should have been visibly floating over those areas, there's even one in her house and she's never seen any of these cameras so she's quite confused. What she saw though was the World Machines and Your perspectives. You can see what she saw in the these monitors inside the World Machine.
48:47 This isn't the arguement Niko makes. Niko tells the World Machine about how, in this unprecedented crisis which neither it, nor any of its inhabitants were programmed to handle, everyone STILL figured out things to do, the refuge at the library, the evacuations, Silver sacrifincing herself, Plight going back for the evacuees, none of this was in their programming yet they did it anyway and everything in the world, including the NPCs are already part of the World Machine, so how couldn't it already be Tamed?
51:21 There are no residents of the Old World there, I mean maybe Rue, Prototype and Cedric count but they're copies of the originals so they don't really count. Well except maybe Prototype, they were already a robot so it probably would have been easy just to uploaded them to the World Machine.
Good video.
Dang that's a lot of info. Obvousily I didn't read it all but I'm surprised you got no comments.
@@KillerKatz12Exactly! This deserves more attention
this really added a lot to the original video, thank you
@@Aven9764 not everything is correct though, keep that in mind. Some stuff is just headcanon and speculation, nevertheless, still a very nice and interesting comment to read.
This is a lot of good points and neatly written as well. more effort than i was going to make in my own similar comment later lol.
I would like to add some things as I am HEAVILY into OneShot lore rn
According to the fandom wiki, George didn't actually exist in the old world, rather being created to pay tribute to a resident of the old world who believed in the multiverse theory. Though, I believe the only implication of this in the game itself is the readable book in the fourth room with a usable bed:
*"...but she deeply believed in the multiverse theory. Regarding alternate versions, she likened the probability to the rolling of dice. (...) It felt only right to honor her this way. There are six. Which one did you encounter?"*
This may also imply that George was not an objecthead in the old world, though considering her gimmick of having a different personality based on which side of the die was her face, I find the former easier to believe.
I also discovered evidence of when the world's sun roughly went out. At one point, Alula says that she's only seen the sun atop the tower as a baby. Nightmargin has confirmed that Alula is younger than Niko on tumblr, but I doubt it'd be difficult to come to that conclusion from the game itself. This means that the sun went out within a small range under 8 years before the events of OneShot.
I choose to believe that the sun is relit from Niko's presence just because Niko is the messiah and the simulation was programmed that way for whatever reason.
My opinion on the object heads was that it was a result of corruption and reprogramming, maybe it was simpler or just a side effect that tied how they appear to some aspect of themselves. I don't believe the original were like that, and it is just how they are inside the simulation basically. There may just not have been enough time to try and correct it. Or maybe it was just faster, to try and finish everything before it was too late, since george may have been more on purpose? idk, i havent looked up if there are any facts about them so i could be wildly off.
2:10 Okay Niko _would_ commit arson though. When you interact with one of the three jars of liquids outside of one of the houses in the village in the glen, Niko responds to the alcohol with 'I don't know why adults like drinking this stuff so much. Alcohol is for setting things on fire!'.
ok i guess that's canon then
Welp, it's confirmed, Niko is wild!1!1
Niko with a molotov
@@bryanjaydomingo5685yippee
There are canonically adults suffering depression and hangovers in Niko's Homeworld
I think in Solstice the world got the happy End. Emphasis on "End". They say that the world will live on in Nico's and Player's memories and hearts, meaning the world itself is gone when the game is closed one last time.
Nah it’s running in the background at all times. The author made the world machine really optimized
This is... So... Sad... And... Happy... I love this masterpiece... It made me cry...
this game/story still makes me cry years later. especially any time i see rue.
I am preparing an exposition of 10 minutes for an important project and I'm gonna talk about OneShot YOU HAVE SAVED ME THANK YOU, in some weeks I will tell you how it was, wish me luck
Glad I could be of help! Please tell me how it goes, I'm kinda interested.
wish me luck, tomorrow is my exposition, I'm just going to talk about Oneshot ( I'm not including Solstice), I feel excited about it so yeah, really thanks for this video
@@annelise1412 Good luck!
Sorry for the late update, everything went really well! Thank you very much again you helped me a lot
@@annelise1412 Glad to hear it all went well!
this was an absolutely BEAUTIFUL retelling of the game!! great job!! i wish i could go indepth rambling about everything as this is definitely one of my favourite games, but i'm having trouble getting the words out. i do love how you focused on mistakes being what makes people though, it was something i didn't realize myself at the time and got me emotional while it slowly clicked. everyone in the world has made mistakes, they're not perfect, but nobody is! twm has spent far too long hating themself for a mistake they made, feeling like they failed their creator by not being the perfect re-imagining he wanted. but here they are, still standing, their happy ending reached. everything turned out okay. that deserves some self-forgiveness, right?
Corrections (Last updated 6/27/2024):
6:16 George's 6 different personalities are likely inserted into the simulation by the Author, as stated in the book next to the bed in the library: "she deeply believed in the multiverse theory. Regarding alternate versions, she likened the probability to the rolling of the dice." Further down in the book it states "Nevertheless, I still wrote it to the best of my abilities. After all, it only felt right to honor her this way." It's unclear who George was originally based off of, but she definitely didn't exist in the Old World (Thanks to @Cdoggle).
9:40 At one of point, Alula states that she's "only seen the sun when [she] was a little baby." As Alula is around 7 years old (not 100% confirmed, only stated by NightMargin on social media), it can be assumed that the Sun went out roughly 6-8 years before the game starts (Thanks to @Cdoggle).
11:40 I state that Silver and Prototype were left as the only functioning robots left in the Barrens, but I also completely forgot about Prophetbot. He was also active in the barrens (even if he wasn't tamed).
32:06 I say that the Sun is relit in only 2 places in the game, but I forgot to include the very beginning of the game when Niko picks up the Sun. It can be argued that the Sun isn't "relit" here since the new Sun hasn't been lit up before, but it's still worth mentioning. Additionally, the Sun is only relit whenever Niko touches it after it hasn't been touched by them in a while, so this could be a possible explanation (Thanks to @user-gx7vq3vb4y).
0:06 it took literally 1 week for this statement to become outdated
0:56 holy crap was the video always corrupted here? thank you davinci resolve for doing a good job rendering.
0:35 sorry oneshot but after playing omori i might have to bump you down to 3rd place.
thanks for the time marks man,not enough people put in the effort
Ah yes the three Os of storytelling games
Outer Wilds, Omori, and OneShot
@@AngelPandaEarth i always like to joke that my favorite narrative-focused games all start with the same letter. i swear it's just a coincidence.
Lore:
Nightmargin said on Tumblr that Niko's father had probably been working out of town since Niko was very young, since Niko hadn't seen him enough to mention him in conversations.
0:37 dude i busted out laughing cause i chuckled "Outer wilds" right before you said it and you said the same thing lmao
i think that niko’s favorite game being fortnite not only makes sense but should be considered canon
Fun fact: Gir, the programmer of the Steam release of OneShot has actually made games with NightMargin wayyy before oneshot - some notable (though never finished) ones being WTF Story, Tess and Bless you, Rip. He was even one of the original game's playtesters (credited as Michael as thats his real name :p)
After the many years of working together on games, he and NightMargin are now married!
Those very last seconds of the video made me ragdoll across the room. Great video! Really makes you see the whole story in a new perspective.
During the event where you have to move the three characters' files to another folder, you can instead delete their character files and they would disappear from the game. I am disappointed in myself for not trying to instead copy their files.
Fun fact, Niko’s name is based on a couple of things, mostly the names nikola Tesla, Neko, and Nico.
What if the light bulb is not a source of energy? As we have already been told, bulb is just a tool for connecting Niko and this world. And since TWM requires a living creature from another world (Niko) to work, it can be said with certainty that the sun, as it were, takes energy from Niko. Therefore, it does not glow when Niko has not touched it for a long time (the beginning of the game, when Niko leaves the sun and at the end of the game). The world was turned into a story because Niko is needed for its full functioning (since the light bulb only works when Niko touches it again), and to let Niko go, the Author put an end to the story.
In other words, the simulation is finite because it requires Niko's mind, and the light bulb that connects Niko to this world only glows when used and has physical contact with Niko (as a source of intelligence, idk)
@@creastive The idea that the lightbulb requires Niko's contact with it seems very plausible actually. When I think about it, those seem to be the only times that Niko is away from the Sun for an extended period of time, and both Niko and the Sun are incredibly important parts of keeping the simulation running. I think the only thing that I would have to disagree with is the lightbulb not being a source of energy in the simulation, as in the beginning of the game you use it to charge up the solar battery used to power the robots in the barrens.
@@pixelbit_ I have to disagree with your last statement. Thatthe battery is recharged with the sun doesn't mean the sun itself is the source. Niko is probably still the source while the sun acts as a relay/condutit/canalizer.
Additionally, since the sun seems to work inside the tower, the tower must have a powersource, maybe the computer ot twm or smth else, that replaces niko as the original source.
This actually makes sense, except the ending.
if this is true, and the simulations need the mind of an external being to run, this dilemma would be solved by the time the solstice ending happens.
the world machine itself, after being fully tamed, becomes an entity, and i think they themselves replaces niko as the provider of that "external mind".
very interesting video, it's great to hear someone really talking about the story of oneshot
23:41 I think Nightmargin did ended up stating that Niko isn't a cat nor a person but rather They're a *Cat Person.*
I think what happened is Kip tried to skip taming altogether. I don't think taming was new, although I will concede Kip's dialogue strongly suggests that it was.
Great video! I'd just like to add my theory of why the Sun gets relit when Niko touches it. Some of the characters in the Glen (like Alula I think?) state that they recognize Niko as the Messiah even when they're not carrying the Sun because their eyes glow yellow in the dark. You can see this especially whenever they go through a loading zone and everything goes pitch black except their eyes and the Sun. That makes me wonder if Niko has some rare, naturally occurring source of yellow phosphor that allows them to act as a sort of conduit or circuit for the Sun while they're carrying it, and the charge is able to persist for a short time after they let go. Perhaps this is part of why they're selected as the Messiah too.
Also, I wonder if the Author is actually dead as well, because don't Prototype and Cedric mention him coming back to help recode the Solstice ending and putting everything he's got into this "One last Shot"? That would also explain the letter to Rue when the Countdown Clock timer reaches zero, and provide a lore reason why the Solstice ending wasn't there when the game originally launched. Because it was specifically "coded in" once a loop was completed and he noticed the program wasn't completing as intended.
Incredible video! You explained everything about the game's lore in a perfect way.
Thank you, this is such an underappreciated story and i'm glad it'll get at least a bit of attention
32:00 three places actually, if you include the start of the game. When not plugged in, it's able to be lit by the touch of the Messiah. When separated, it eventually fades out again. I thought it was explained but maybe I imagined it.
A video essay??? About OneShot lore?? Nomnomnomnom
So did pirates exist? Did they seize the Phosphor Treasure?
This _really_ should have more views, 11k isn't enough for how good this video is
Someone else mentioned Rachis.
It has finally happened.
guys i still have no clue what he looks like
Your videos are so high-quality!! I can’t believe you don’t have more subscribers…
anyways, thanks for making this. I just love it when people talk about stuff I’m interested in :)
great analysis, this is what i’ve been searching for!
A game is something you play. You do play in this world, Niko does.
Absolutely love the retelling of this game! It gave me a fresh lens of the whole overall story and how amazing it really is after not playing it for a few years
32:04 I think sun is relit because of Niko. Like when we find it in the basement, it's also isn't lit at first, until Niko picks it up.
You have such a sweet voice!
Great content, thanks for dedication of sticking with the game and it's depths and sharing that with us!
Thank you for this video, this is a great resource for doing further analysis
one of the best oneshot video i have ever watched！
thank you for this quality video!
There's actually another kinda secret ending I think. It might only be in the first build but I heard when you get the dilemma at the tower if you close the game you. both shatter the lightbulb and kill Niko so it's the equivalent to trolley problem's solution of going off rail to kill everyone.
That should only be in the 2014 release of the game. Nightmargin removed closing the game resulting in killing Niko from the Steam release when it got remade.
@@pixelbit_ Alright. I wasn't sure because I heard it on the fandom but then saw a vid of it on the build and I thought "wait a min waw it really on the Steam release?"
Reminds me of Gilgamesh seeking for the immortality and thus becoming almost immortal by the power of story
Hey i just stumbled upon your channel,i like smaller channels like this and your videos are really well made man and i hope the best for you,keep on that grind man,i believe in ya
This is amazing! I appreciate all the time and effort you put into making this video ❤
Needs more views ngl
AMAZIBNG 10/1O Video. Video Essays are the BEST!
RUclips Hidden Gem. Keep up the great work. Love it :)
EPIC video😎🔥🔥
Lol I’m kinda late but this game amazing prob my fav game lol I just found this video now and it’s fr amazing great job!
i swear your vids are so good i watched all the way to the end of your 53:36 MINUTE VIDEO
32:04 could it be the new suns default state? Like if you unload it as an object, it's being reset/respawned when you approach it again. And the condition for it to light up is to be picked up by the Messiah (Niko).
Just a quick guess from me.
Bro I watched this game on RUclips 4 years ago and markiplier only played the first run I didn't know the game was this good 😭
Me costo entender algunas cosas de este video, porque como verán, mi idioma principal no es el ingles, lol.
Igual, haciendo un esfuerzo y usando traductor pude entender lo que se decia en el video y me pareció muy bueno!!!
It implies that niko has to be with the sun, or else it goes out until they touch it.
Bro, your videos are really goods!!! Do more about Oneshot, please... (Yes, I am a big fan, sorry)
i loved this dude
Muito obrigada, esse jogo incrivel merece mais reconhecimento e o seu vídeo fez um trabalho incrivel para isso. ❤
24:16 you can only read that after the ending
One of the saddest games I've ever played. Absolute masterpiece.
Little did he know pixel bit studios exsists
every time you say the head librarian's name i get a heart attack
holy shit it's pixel art soma
Nice vid, new sub!
Lore of An In Depth Overview of OneShot's Lore Momentums that 100
nice.
Tbh
For me
It doesn't make sense for the sun go out 8 years before the events of OneShot
I mean
Alula is *younger* than Niko
If she truly is 7, how could she even have *seen* the sun? I mean, yeah, being born after Niko, but that's the *point*
judging by the fact that the barrens gas can remove rust, i think it consumes oxygen. (don't quote me on this)
very cool
Excellent Video, I really liked how you explained and paced everything here
My only question about the game is the room at the start and the end of the game as it feels so odd in how it doesn't really connect to anything yet it is returned to for both the end of the standard game and solstice so I want to know if anyone knows anything special about it
I'm not actually too sure about that room, but I believe that the Author put it in so that the simulation would mirror the prophecy in the Old World as accurately as possible. The Messiah of the Old World was to wake up in a dark house, so he programmed in a dark house. The reason Niko returns to the house in is never explicitly stated, so it may just be there for poetic value (ending your journey where you began). There's also a book in the first house that you can read which says "ad infinitum" (to infinity), but when you go back to the house in the end, the book now says "ad finitum" (to an end). Not entirely sure whether that implies something in the lore or if it's just an easter egg, but it's cool nonetheless.
OneShot was the first game that made me cry. God damn, Future Cat is the best dev.
#JusticeForOneShot
HEY I WAS THE 1000TH SUBSCRIBER!!!!!!
53:31 ramsong
i'm already subscribes, so i can't again :(, great video :)
hollow knight desktop wallpaper?!
yes
@@pixelbit_ w
life story
53:33 lmao
53:17
0:43 its me Goku
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
tea
38:57 what in the fu-
inspect element :)
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Note: Only the first section has captions for… some reason.
@@EpicGamer_SansheeFreddy I'm aware, I didn't get to finish it and meant to save it as a draft.
Oh.
0:42 its me goku
i have 8x less your subscribers and my best video is suprisingly DOUBLE yours
but its also a short so errr.
Now play Omori
AHHHHHH I've had that at the top of my "to play" list for so long but I'm not currently in a state we're I'd be fine with its themes. Really looking forward to playing it when I can though.
@@pixelbit_ Then, I'm waiting you to play 🙃