How OneShot's Fourth Wall Breaks Worked - Technical Deep Dive

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  • Опубликовано: 26 окт 2024

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  • @redheaddjg
    @redheaddjg  26 дней назад +5

    Just a quick note that I needed to make, this video explains how the fourth wall breaks of OneShot worked in the original PC version, not the World Machine Edition which is the version that is on consoles and that just released on Steam yesterday as of the writing of this comment.
    The World Machine Edition uses a completely different game engine compared to the original PC version (not sure which one) and instead of using the actual operating system to do its fourth wall breaks, it does them through a virtual "operating system" implemented within the game itself, which is how the game can work on consoles. A lot of the ideas and philosophies for these fourth wall breaks are still the same between both versions, but their implementation I'm almost certain is different.
    Anyway, just a heads up in case anyone has any questions relating to which version I am covering in this video.

  • @maddingue
    @maddingue 2 месяца назад +222

    “The video contains major spoilers.” Thanks for the warning, I’ll come back later. Taking a note to watch this video after playing the game.

    • @madmakral3841
      @madmakral3841 2 месяца назад +2

      How did it go?

    • @aaronruinslives
      @aaronruinslives 2 месяца назад +18

      Thank you for playing this absolute gem of a game I hope you like it

    • @str4nger-d4nger
      @str4nger-d4nger 2 месяца назад +6

      didja do it? or still not done?
      no need to rush if not, its a game best played slow

    • @sense.reginald
      @sense.reginald 2 месяца назад +3

      update us when you're done :3

    • @isabkyes6507
      @isabkyes6507 Месяц назад

      So? How did it go

  • @Determ1nat1on
    @Determ1nat1on 2 месяца назад +177

    Niko do your thing is a hilarious name lmao

    • @TheKd8lvt
      @TheKd8lvt 2 месяца назад +33

      As a game modder turned professional software engineer, I feel like I have to shout out the best method name I have ever seen.
      intelCPUsAreDumbAsBricks
      Which is the name of a method that takes a single value of any type and returns it, completely unmodified. It also has an annotation to make sure the compiler doesn't optimize it away, implying the compiler agrees with the author.
      I'll leave it up to your imagination whether that gem is in a game or not. It's pretty funny to see, either way.

    • @ocelotmadness6287
      @ocelotmadness6287 2 месяца назад +4

      Whats the point? ​@TheKd8lvt

    • @TheKd8lvt
      @TheKd8lvt 2 месяца назад +14

      @@ocelotmadness6287 I have no idea, that's the best part. Probably nothing but legacy code nowadays, but the original codebase is old enough that it could have at one point been fixing something

  • @Voxelstice
    @Voxelstice 2 месяца назад +57

    3:08 i'd like to clarify: mkxp-oneshot is ACTUALLY the game engine OneShot is running, it's also a fork of mkxp, which is a reimplementation of RPG Maker XP's engine

    • @towaii
      @towaii 2 месяца назад +6

      yeah this moment of the video was a little bit weird seeing the most recent commit being from GIRakaCHEEZER themself. good to know

  • @lassebq1
    @lassebq1 2 месяца назад +31

    I have completed OneShot on Windows before, but I'm about to replay the game on Linux. The fact that even different desktop environments have special handling for desktop wallpaper is super interesting to me. No indie game developer in the world would go that far imo

  • @itswilliamanimate
    @itswilliamanimate 2 месяца назад +67

    3:15
    im not sure if this is a reimplementation of the game; eliza is a developer for oneshot, and they forked mkxp for oneshot, but due to licensing, they need to open source it (which is how you can see that code)

    • @GIRakaCHEEZER
      @GIRakaCHEEZER 2 месяца назад

      Yeah that github repo seen in the video is just the actual repo for OneShot 2016

  • @ms.awesome
    @ms.awesome 2 месяца назад +28

    i remember specifically trying to drag the game window when Niko does they're thing and was amazed that they werent just apart of the actual game somehow.. This game is so cool and awesome and i love it so much! And your explanations were great :3 !!

  • @the_greened_out
    @the_greened_out 2 месяца назад +81

    0:20 NIko is not just a cat-looking person, they are ABSOLUTELY not a cat

  • @arena7839
    @arena7839 2 месяца назад +24

    "Oneshot didnt perform any dark magic" says the literal wizard

  • @Cmaster25
    @Cmaster25 2 месяца назад +43

    As a speedrunner of Oneshot, seeing how these fourth wall breaks actually work amazes me! Loved the video and the visuals!

  • @annotated_
    @annotated_ 2 месяца назад +33

    This video feels like the Hunter R. (a content creator who specializes in animal crossing's code) version for Oneshot. Loved the vid btw!

  • @erzaine6545
    @erzaine6545 2 месяца назад +18

    I feel like I'm watching magic being revealed to me. Thank you for the detail video and may this video get reccomended to many others

  • @saprykinzxc
    @saprykinzxc 2 месяца назад +9

    Really love this game. I have played it about 5 yrs ago and still remember how i cry at the ending

  • @Yipper64
    @Yipper64 2 месяца назад +4

    This is without a doubt, my favorite RPG Maker game. It isnt even a contest.

  • @0neofthoseguys547
    @0neofthoseguys547 2 месяца назад +5

    Niko doing the thing being a reuse of the journal program is really interesting and weirdly satisfying. Great video and underrated channel!

  • @SeppelSquirrel
    @SeppelSquirrel 2 месяца назад +3

    I appreciate the way you built up from the simple to the complex! Due to the ordering of this video's reveals, I was able to guess how the last one was done before you showed it!

  • @WokWokich
    @WokWokich 2 месяца назад +2

    The best video about OneShot, it was very interesting to look at the game code, even though I didn't understand anything^_^
    Amazing video.
    Amazing game.

  • @slugintub
    @slugintub 2 месяца назад +13

    This was an absolutely amazing video, I really don't get how it doesn't have more views, amazing editing and breakdown of the code.

  • @RaquelCF150
    @RaquelCF150 2 месяца назад +9

    Amazing video and very well explained! I was always curious about how they did all that, specially how Niko does their thing xD

  • @e2myearly288
    @e2myearly288 2 месяца назад +3

    I've been trying to look into this code for so long now. Thank you for helping me understand this. This is incredible

  • @Eva-zy4gw
    @Eva-zy4gw 2 месяца назад +4

    Getting caught off guard with the "Yumi Nikki" was so funny Lol. 2:06
    It should have been "Yume Nikki".

  • @emeraldtheninja9128
    @emeraldtheninja9128 8 дней назад

    Thanks for pointing people in the right direction mentioning solstice. A lot of people still haven't figured that out

  • @marginoferrortheory
    @marginoferrortheory 2 месяца назад +2

    i've been waiting for this kind of video to see how niko walked out of the window
    great video!!!!

  • @XDDDSXD
    @XDDDSXD 2 месяца назад +1

    i was so amazed by the oneshot mechanics, when i first time played it. my mind literally blown. so explaining the code from your video. it fascinated me.

  • @draf800
    @draf800 2 месяца назад +1

    great video, im happy that someone is still making content about this game after 8 years (more views deserved)

  • @qwertyuiop.lkjhgfdsa
    @qwertyuiop.lkjhgfdsa 2 месяца назад +3

    oh that is fascinating, i never would have guessed offscreen niko was the journal exe

  • @TalhaOyunda-sb6fy
    @TalhaOyunda-sb6fy 2 месяца назад +1

    Great video!

  • @centdemeern1
    @centdemeern1 2 месяца назад +1

    As an experienced programmer, the main takeaway for me is that mkxp exists, which is pretty cool. I didn't know about it. The actual implementation of things seemed pretty standard/trivial though (as expected and as they should be)
    If I recall though, I think the game actually reverts your desktop wallpaper to what it was before. I wanted to know some details about where it kept your wallpaper information and what niche features it possibly neglected to include in what it saves. Especially on Windows, wallpapers have some pretty weird and niche properties. (Things like slideshows and other dynamic things. They really experimented a lot with that during the Windows XP - 7 era)
    I also just remembered that Wallpaper Engine exists, which might make the entire mechanic impossible (without disabling WE) for some people. That's... oh well.
    TL;DR: pretty cool video! I liked how a lot of stuff was still implemented in RGSS, by mostly only using mkxp as *bindings*, or wherever it wouldn't be very reasonable
    P.S. I'm amazed they went out of their way to make a Linux version of the game, by the way. Linux has next to no guaranteed-to-be-available standards for anything so the work the devs put in to make it all work in various situations is very commendable.

  • @phxcake4012
    @phxcake4012 2 месяца назад

    YEAAAAAH IVE BEEN WAITING FOR A VIDEO LIKE THIS..!!!!!!!!!!!!! hi thank you for this

  • @i_isak1451
    @i_isak1451 2 месяца назад

    Amazing video! It was super interesting to see how the mechanics actually work under the hood

  • @TeemoFatHamster
    @TeemoFatHamster 2 месяца назад +7

    //Spoilers:
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    I still remember the ending, I remember playing it as soon as it came out, every one in a while for whatever reason i keep remembering it, and i always go in my head "i remember you niko".
    I know it's weird to do it, but at the same time it became this fun little ritual i really enjoy doing. The excitement after you randomly remember something like that, you just go "wow! i still hold that moment inside my head"

  • @Lucas38739
    @Lucas38739 2 месяца назад

    At 22:29 I assume this is one of your tracks you've made? Glad to see that Bejeweled 2's music still inspires tracks made today!

  • @Str4ky
    @Str4ky 2 месяца назад

    This was hell interesting, thank you for making this video :)

  • @Random-oy7vk
    @Random-oy7vk 2 месяца назад

    Omg, I was looking for a vídeo like this for a long time

  • @fdsKedi
    @fdsKedi 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for the explanation!

  • @Yuti640
    @Yuti640 2 месяца назад +5

    one shot is peak!!!

  • @buddybuck3716
    @buddybuck3716 2 месяца назад

    This has great explanations! ty!

  • @thecoweggs
    @thecoweggs 2 месяца назад

    underrated channel.

  • @BakerBones
    @BakerBones 2 месяца назад

    YOOO NEW ONESHOT VIDEO ESSAY
    i really gotta finish mine lol

  • @CanoTheVolcano
    @CanoTheVolcano 2 месяца назад

    I believe that Named Pipes are the windows equivalent to Unix Domain sockets, and so Oneshot uses message passing for its IPC rather than shared memory.

  • @Yuti640
    @Yuti640 2 месяца назад +12

    Niko! Do your thing!
    *Sunglasses.png*

  • @Milkmanrules1032
    @Milkmanrules1032 7 дней назад

    Very interesting stuff!

  • @crycatena
    @crycatena 2 месяца назад

    Super interesting!

  • @SoyMako
    @SoyMako 2 месяца назад +1

    this video gonna blow up

  • @OliAtypical
    @OliAtypical 2 месяца назад +1

    Hearing TehAwesomestKitteh said out loud out of nowhere made me suddenly feel physically ill
    For those who are unaware, TAK draws nsfw of niko, alula, and other underaged characters and has been known to harbor and blindly defend groomers in their discord server.

  • @seazeiscool
    @seazeiscool 2 месяца назад +1

    i was always blown away by how on earth did they do certain things and this explained it well, awesome video
    also wow only 1k views? very underrated

  • @gamertypeawesome
    @gamertypeawesome 2 месяца назад +4

    I THOUGHT I'D ALREADY SPOILED MYSELF TOO MUCH TO PLAY THE GAME AND THEN I DISCOVER THERE'S STUFF I DIDN'T REMEMBER BUT NOW DISCOVERING THAT MEANS DISCOVERING THE SOLUTION SO IM FULLY SPOILED AGAIN SO I DONT HAVE A GOOD REASON TO PLAY IT AAAA

    • @solsystem1342
      @solsystem1342 2 месяца назад +3

      I think the experience of playing oneshot is really cool. It's up to you of course but I watched a single playthrough before playing it and still enjoyed it.

    • @gamertypeawesome
      @gamertypeawesome 2 месяца назад +1

      @@solsystem1342 it still has been a bit since ive seen anything so maybe it'll be fun to just read the dialogue. I'll see how much it costs (i might have killed freeware niko :( )

    • @gamertypeawesome
      @gamertypeawesome 2 дня назад

      oh I forgot to say but after that i did buy the game but was pretty underwhelming sadly

  • @robertwyatt3912
    @robertwyatt3912 2 месяца назад

    You should do a video on the original “proof-of-concept” version of the game. It’s able to do a few more nasty tricks because it’s a free game.

  • @Amonimus
    @Amonimus 2 месяца назад

    People generally forget that games are software. Displaying the graphics is the normal functionality, but any game in theory has near full access to the computer while it's running. DDLC also relies on tricks that, if you think about it, most games do anyway but don't bluntly say so to preserve suspension of disbelief.
    Though whatever being a programmer spoils meta surprises is subjective.

  • @arcturusakerfeels1438
    @arcturusakerfeels1438 2 месяца назад

    5:29 Roasted Garlic Summer Sausage

  • @krispyking2450
    @krispyking2450 2 месяца назад +2

    16:47 what if u played the game on an unactivated windows? or would how it changes the wall paper still work?

  • @markhladkykh5370
    @markhladkykh5370 2 месяца назад +2

    Undertale Yellow Soundtrack

  • @Rasec193
    @Rasec193 2 месяца назад +1

    i've only watched the intro.
    The examples look like the kinitopet stuff (i guess the kinitopet devs were inspired by oneshot)

  • @Milkmanrules1032
    @Milkmanrules1032 7 дней назад

    Can you do a video about Outcore and how the game was made?

  • @ninjakai03
    @ninjakai03 2 месяца назад

    ONESHOT VIDEO WITH VA11HALLA MUSIC I LOVE YOU

  • @Mahier_theguy
    @Mahier_theguy Месяц назад

    I'm just trying to figure out how they managed to add expressions and stuff

  • @Box_yld
    @Box_yld 2 месяца назад +2

    24:41
    Sadly on linux version niko will just disapper :(
    (Could be fixed cuz the game got a good amount of updates after i beat it in both windows and linux version)

    • @lassebq1
      @lassebq1 2 месяца назад +1

      Looking at the current code in mkxp repo, there's certainly some handling for linux platform too. So I have high hopes about my playthrough

    • @Box_yld
      @Box_yld 2 месяца назад

      Nice...i will wait until you complete the game

  • @CanoTheVolcano
    @CanoTheVolcano 2 месяца назад

    was that a community re-implementation on github? because GIRakaCHEEZER was the main writer for the game, i believe.

  • @vindi167
    @vindi167 2 месяца назад

    ok but you frogot the window shake when the lightbulb shatters

  • @zaptrap4802
    @zaptrap4802 2 месяца назад

    For the desktop wallpapers, when you close the game, the wallpaper reverts back to your original wallpaper. How does the game do this? Does the game store your original wallpaper somewhere before changing it, then restores the wallpaper when the game finally closes? Or is there some windows function that allows temporary wallpapers?
    (This is a newbie question) As for the journal, how does the game make the window transparent? Does it just check what the color of the pixel behind is and then display that? Or do windows windows just have the ability to set a transparency value to the pixels? (I've never seen any other software do this so that's why im asking)

    • @redheaddjg
      @redheaddjg  2 месяца назад +1

      @@zaptrap4802 interesting questions!
      I looked back into those wallpaper binding functions and yea, just before the desktop wallpaper is set, OneShot does save the parameters of the old wallpaper into some global variables. There's another function in the binding class called "wallpaperReset" that sets the wallpaper parameters to those old values, so maybe OneShot runs that function when the game closes and is why it can reset it.
      For the journal, I believe the window uses a mask to accomplish its transparency. There are green pixels in the journal images in the places that would be transparent in the window. Those green pixels are masked out when those images are drawn which makes those pixels transparent. I'm not too versed with Windows API stuff so I am not exactly sure on the details of it. On the Unix version of the journal program, the window is set to have a translucent background. The pixels of the images in the unix version are transparent to begin with so there's no crazy masking going on with displaying those.

    • @zaptrap4802
      @zaptrap4802 2 месяца назад

      @@redheaddjg Thanks :)

  • @pomelo9518
    @pomelo9518 2 месяца назад

    As someone who isn't too experienced with code, I thought completely invisible windows weren't allowed by OSes. Haha

  • @ChickenPotato911
    @ChickenPotato911 2 месяца назад

    Pancake For The Niko 🥞🥞🥞

  • @TehAwesomestKitteh
    @TehAwesomestKitteh 2 месяца назад

    I should update the modding guide

  • @ghb323
    @ghb323 2 месяца назад

    somewhat reminds me of windowkill for godot on the final chapter.

  • @Terricule
    @Terricule 2 месяца назад

    Damn ur all reel smart n stuff wow poggers i'm clappin so hard rn!!!

  • @FlameSoulis
    @FlameSoulis 2 месяца назад

    So... the 7th method... there's ONE other way to pull off the same trick... which I've done in total error, as have many other C++ coders dealing with the WIN32 API directly (they were using SDL, which is much more recommended).
    TLDR.... if you do drawcalls to NULL, this is the desktop itself. So, in theory, you could draw on the screen without creating a window class... and things get very weird. Granted, this is NOT multi-platform friendly at all, and I'm sure that many Linux desktop environments absolutely forbid this kind of action.

  • @gamertypeawesome
    @gamertypeawesome 2 месяца назад

    12:53 why did you sentence mix it

  • @AnnasVirtual
    @AnnasVirtual 2 месяца назад

    language binding is too powerful fr

  • @KNfLrPn
    @KNfLrPn 2 месяца назад

    Curious: is the narration computer-generated?

  • @pieperson444
    @pieperson444 2 месяца назад

    i'd be so fucking mad if a game changed my desktop

    • @Stevoisiak
      @Stevoisiak 2 месяца назад +2

      The game restores your original background afterwards

  • @aleksitjvladica.
    @aleksitjvladica. 2 месяца назад

    Why do you talk about this obviously gay video game?!

    • @Turbulation1
      @Turbulation1 2 месяца назад +1

      Hmm I wonder how the algorithm attracted you to this guy's videos.

    • @aleksitjvladica.
      @aleksitjvladica. 2 месяца назад

      @@Turbulation1 Ask the west.

    • @MarteenHobbu
      @MarteenHobbu 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@aleksitjvladica. bruh...

    • @michaelepica3564
      @michaelepica3564 2 месяца назад +1

      Because its fucking fantastic. And y'know what? Gay people are fantastic too. Womp fucking womp if you don't think so.