Spider-Man the reign storyline is the most heart wrenching comic I ever read; despite all the trauma Peter endured, he is always there willing to get back up into heroics no matter what. This is a very good video and I really enjoyed it, thx again plot armor.
Seemed like a Wannabe Return of the Dark Knight. Could've been handled better. Also I dont think it would be possible for Peter to lose that much mass as an old man considering how his powers work
spiderman reign was really a suprise for me it was hard seeing my favorite superhero so old and powerless but also inspiring that he came back to his old self even through all the hardships and trauma he went through
I love how the Hulk is shown as a true protector of Bruce as well as being his own person. "When you hurt Banner, I take it personal." I loved that seeing that line come from none other than the Jade Giant himself.
You forgot the mention that the actual end to Reign (I think it was in spider verse) was that Peter got his head smashed in with Mary-Janes gravestone.
I also want to throw in forgetmenot lol can you imagine the loneliness of noone forgetting you exist the second they turn their head?? Imagine being 12 hitting puberty and the next thing you know your parents forget they even made you smh
Amazing video!👍👏 I just began my comic book collection and found Toon Haven. They have an incredible range of digital comics for every genre, including the hard to find ones. Lifetime updates too!😁
The Marvel Max Punisher run from Garth Ennis was pretty dark. Maybe not so apocalyptic in scope, but human trafficking, disembowelment, immolation, and more were in just one brief arc...
Punisher Max is dark and fantastic. I'm not huge on comics, but I adore that one. Always fun to see Frank Castle go full Doomslayer on some people who really deserve it.
Same with Punisher Marvel Knights, also by Garth Ennis. Knights was the precursor to Max if I am not mistaken. The wildest is the storyline of the child who his smothered by his obese mother. To survive he cannibalizes on her corpse until the police come and find him. He then develops a necro fetish and becomes a killer of homeless people and becomes this deranged junkie. After that storyline I was like wtf.
@@doginhat13 I remember hearing about that in real-life. Happened during 'Nam, at least according to the story. I never learned whether that was based on actual events or just an urban legend, but frankly, neither would surprise me, & true or false, that story still makes the rounds word-of-mouth to this day.
I feel that the first story would have benefited better if their was no actual super bad guy. Maybe just a regular dude who was able to control NYC. The real villian was Peter's struggles and overcoming them.
spiderman reign shows perfectly why spiderman is so timeless and encapsulates why I love him, even at his worst, peter parker is able to find himself and become a symbol of hope
I wonder if Disney+ will make an animated series about these dark stories and future ones cause we have seen Hulk and Iron man’s dark side now what about the others. Captain America, Hawkeye, Ant man and others should have storylines like these that show just how dark of a world some heros are pushed into.
@@luvmenow33 I’m talking about different storylines and some of these comics should be animated we already have planet hulk but that is only the first part we need world war hulk in animated form to complete the saga.
What I'm really curious about is how the hell JJ Jameson outlived Mary Jane (even with the weird radiocative thing...) and was able to talk to like an 80yo Peter in the Reign story?
I like the idea of magneto in the comics going through great lengths to make sure humanity survives in the comics. Fighting apocalypse alone, holding back the marvel zombies. The movies make him out to be a bad guy but dudes got some heart. And he's a total fucking goon.
Your voice is amazing for this bro. I listen to these at work, and you do an amazing job of painting a visual in my mind. Well done. Wish I could sub twice
Ghost Rider: Trail of Tears and Moon Knight: The Bottom, while not being time-hopping doom sandwiches filled with magic, really starve you for some light until the end of them.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Apocalypse#Other_anti-Apocalypse_forces Continue down the page for more humans in the AoA timeline that are superheroes/supervillains in other timelines.
Basically the way spider man reign killed Mary Jane is he busted in her an it was radioactive ☢️ and as he said “it’s like a million little spiders crawling in our body” if I remeber
Kinda HYPOCRITICAL to have the HULK...who has literally destroyed ENTIRE CITIES during his violent rampages.. calling out that kid for ACCIDENTALLY killing someone during a botched armed robbery .. the SAME Hulk who must have DESTROYED MILLIONS of lives HIMSELF
Wait ... 12:55 i never saw that as Colossus willingly closing the door, i saw it as a desperate Colossus trying with all his might to keep it open and help his students, his mission was completed, he got his sister out, now he wanted to return for his team but he couldn't keep the door opened. Unless I'm missing something, there wasn't a line that implied that he closed the door, in fact he says that he has to push in order to keep it open.
The dialogue in the boxes implied he gave up. And although it’s been a while since I read AoA, it was heavily implied that he was not the noble hero of 616 at the time, and that he was fairly selfish.
@@madebycarter unless you can cite the dialogue itself it doesn't really do any good to the conversation cuz it's just conjecture. heavily implied has a subjective meaning - we know he's still selfless cuz he cares about keeping his sister safe, but *selfish* is a different thing entirely. he didnt do any of this for himself, he did it for his sister
@@MVCx_xB I was referring to the dialogue in the boxes in the video. But sure, I’ll dig up the issue from 1995 to cite it for you. Colossus in AoA was not the same kind spirit of 616. Iirc he was somewhat cruel and militant. And he was not selfless. He ran over kitty pride and killed her because he was so tunnel focused on his sister. 616 colossus wouldn’t have done that. He was blind with rage and only cared his sister, nothing else. Hardly the selfless hero you make him out to be.
Craig Kyle and Chris Yost are great X-Authors. While their X-Force run was great, if I had to pick one dark, deep, and truly thought provoking X-Men story it would have to be “God Loves, Man Kills”. That graphic novel is actually the origin of Rev. Stryker and his Purifiers that you cited in the X-Force run. It’s a must read for any X-Men fan!
I would be thrilled if they closed out the marvel cinematic universe with Deadpool kills the marvel universe. It will star Stan Lee, Kevin feige, etc. and everyone will die.
dude you have to read X-Men: Red (2022) and Avengers X-Men Eternals: Judgment Day (2022). Both ongoing and they tie into each other. I won't spoil much but it takes place on Mars. the mutants (X-Men) started life on the planet and for that, a war is started. Its a story full of action that shows perspective of all 3 teams ( The Avengers, X-Men and Eternals). early into the story it looks like life on the entire planet is over.
I remember when Age of Apocalypse started, in Wolverine vol.2 90 a fight with Sabretooth Wolvie's got his fist under Creed's chin, pops two claws then as he pops the middle claw up into Creed's brain, reality shifts into AoA
Maybe there can be a future Sony Spider-man movie called Spider-man Reign. Who likes the idea of that regardless of it for being too dark for Marvel? Because I think it'll appeal to the majority of comic book audiences.
This is one of the best comic-book YT videos I have ever seen. I've been reading/collecting since the 70s. I walked out of Tim Burton's Batman, at the theater, because I was into the deranged Killing Joke Joker. Jack Nicholson prancing around in that Batman 66 era costume and dancing to Prince, was like nails on a chalkboard. I am always looking for the dark storylines and characters. Thanks for this. I'm going to start digging into your other videos and def recommend your channel.
Bruce has d.i.d. i.e. dissociative identity disorder, formerly known as split personality disorder. Those personalities were created in those childhood traumas Bruce suffered. Gamma simply gave them physical forms.
Ruins is obvious edge lord stuff lol I love berserk, I get it. Hah but thats obvious it'd be up there in every other video, it's cool seeing other stories for once
Hulk is a voilent monster, Not what Marvel has done to Dave and his monster today. When i was young Hulk was a beast. Like any werewolf horror. Complete with Fulchi Eyeshots in the tv series when he turned. Gee i am old. 😌
34:30 that second picture looks like the dog transformation mutation thing from Ben10 (it’s been a really long time since I watched Ben10 I don’t remember the names sry)
Doing something dangerous only to be disappointed that you're still alive isn't that dark. I call that Tuesday. Pretty much every other day too. C'mon Sugarman. Smoosh my head!
In truth if it was actually the 5 darkest marvel comics, they would all be spider man. Though 1 comic that at least for me make the 5 comics shown other than the spider man one look child like and carefree is: Darkhold: Iron Man
Funny how two of these are hulk, but for sure she-hulk has suffered far more than bruce ever has. After all, she gets advice about her job, gets catcalled occasionally on the street, and is accountable for her body count.
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Spider-Man the reign storyline is the most heart wrenching comic I ever read; despite all the trauma Peter endured, he is always there willing to get back up into heroics no matter what. This is a very good video and I really enjoyed it, thx again plot armor.
It does also have the infamous radioactive spidersperm that kills loved ones
Seemed like a Wannabe Return of the Dark Knight. Could've been handled better. Also I dont think it would be possible for Peter to lose that much mass as an old man considering how his powers work
Imagine the guilt Peter would have if Miles died in the next Spider-Man game.
Totally made my night depressed lol.
I was on the verge of crying
spiderman reign was really a suprise for me it was hard seeing my favorite superhero so old and powerless but also inspiring that he came back to his old self even through all the hardships and trauma he went through
Immortal Hulk would be a good animated movie/series
I agree shame a lot stuff would I have a feeling one day bro it’s lyk they know it’s a bankable idea not that it’s all about that
I am 69th like
Yeah Marvel should make good animated movies like DC especially the stories that would be to expensive for live action and not shorts like What if
@@laurkanwalton576629:51
I love how the Hulk is shown as a true protector of Bruce as well as being his own person.
"When you hurt Banner, I take it personal."
I loved that seeing that line come from none other than the Jade Giant himself.
Avemgers
You forgot the mention that the actual end to Reign (I think it was in spider verse) was that Peter got his head smashed in with Mary-Janes gravestone.
Wait… holy shit did that really happen?! I thought Peter managed to save his city!
@@jotarocujoh8702 he did save it but got his head smashed still
Oh, I see
But when did he get his head smashed, I mean, after Peter won?
@@jotarocujoh8702 I assume it happened immediately after
I think Spider-Man has suffered more than anybody else
Let's not forget about Wolverine. That guy has had a whole extended life of baggage!
If God himself has to come convince you to keep being a hero then you've been through it.
I also want to throw in forgetmenot lol can you imagine the loneliness of noone forgetting you exist the second they turn their head?? Imagine being 12 hitting puberty and the next thing you know your parents forget they even made you smh
I think only Thor and Old Man Wolverine are sadder 😢
What’s so funny is how quickly that Kraven took out Spider-Man once he put his mind to it.. As easy as 1,2,3…
WE👏🏾DON'T👏🏾TALK👏🏾 ABOUT Spider-Man Reign!!!👏🏾 That book was just a display of how someone at Marvel actually hates Peter Parker
And how is that?
Lmao
Damn that bad huh
It was one of my favorites as a kid. I was a weird kid lol
Why should we care?
Amazing video!👍👏 I just began my comic book collection and found Toon Haven. They have an incredible range of digital comics for every genre, including the hard to find ones. Lifetime updates too!😁
The Marvel Max Punisher run from Garth Ennis was pretty dark. Maybe not so apocalyptic in scope, but human trafficking, disembowelment, immolation, and more were in just one brief arc...
Punisher Max is dark and fantastic. I'm not huge on comics, but I adore that one. Always fun to see Frank Castle go full Doomslayer on some people who really deserve it.
For the Netflix Punisher series they went pretty close to that one of the plots were drug dealing through veteran Corpses
Same with Punisher Marvel Knights, also by Garth Ennis. Knights was the precursor to Max if I am not mistaken. The wildest is the storyline of the child who his smothered by his obese mother. To survive he cannibalizes on her corpse until the police come and find him. He then develops a necro fetish and becomes a killer of homeless people and becomes this deranged junkie. After that storyline I was like wtf.
@@afrocoolio25 Yeah, his Marvel Knights run was pretty great. The psychological torture on Daredevil in that run was amazing.
@@doginhat13 I remember hearing about that in real-life. Happened during 'Nam, at least according to the story. I never learned whether that was based on actual events or just an urban legend, but frankly, neither would surprise me, & true or false, that story still makes the rounds word-of-mouth to this day.
In my opinion, none of the stories you mention reaches the heights of tragicity and drama of the miniseries "Ruins" (1995) by Warren Ellis
I was gonna say this. That comic was dark and the art was amazing
Have you heard of Darkhold: Iron Man, it is a fucked up but short comic of iron man melting in his initial iron man suits
Have you heard of Darkhold: Iron Man, it is a dosey
Agreed
I feel that the first story would have benefited better if their was no actual super bad guy. Maybe just a regular dude who was able to control NYC. The real villian was Peter's struggles and overcoming them.
Love Joe Madureira's art in Age of Apoc. He is the guy who got me into comics all those years ago!
Old man Parker made me super sad 😢
spiderman reign shows perfectly why spiderman is so timeless and encapsulates why I love him, even at his worst, peter parker is able to find himself and become a symbol of hope
This guy is so underrated! Awesome videos.
True
Absolutely!
How, exactly, is this channel underrated?
@@Adoniis101 only 100k subscribers and very few likes to views ratio
Relax he’s just doing what a lot of comic RUclipsrs are doing he’s just reading comics you could look up online it ain’t that deep
this channel is amazing, full arc recaps without the need to look for audiobooks and such
One of my favorite comic channels rigth now fr
Check out "Russian Comic Book Geek"
He does panel for panel reading ls of comics with sfx. It's incredible
This guy should do audio reading he's really good at it
I'm sure he'd like to do more of it! ☺️
If I ever saw Magneto rip Wolverine's adamantium out in a live action movie, I would be scarred for life
It wasn't a new Hulk personality it was an old one the Devil Hulk and the guy was a Gamma Vampire smh.
Spiderman gone through it ALOT
*Venom License To Kill*
*Marvel Ruins*
*The Hulk The End*
You may have forgot to mention Old Man Logan. Talk about bleak, no one has a happy ending in that story.
FUCK yeah!!!
That was kind of made into Logan though.
It goes to show how powerful Magnito is if he can Ripe apart Apocalypse.
Plot powers
Ripe?
I wonder if Disney+ will make an animated series about these dark stories and future ones cause we have seen Hulk and Iron man’s dark side now what about the others. Captain America, Hawkeye, Ant man and others should have storylines like these that show just how dark of a world some heros are pushed into.
U mom. Isn't there already a WHAT IF animated series?
@@luvmenow33 I’m talking about different storylines and some of these comics should be animated we already have planet hulk but that is only the first part we need world war hulk in animated form to complete the saga.
They'd all be wearing rainbow costumes.
Captain America became one with the Hydra was his darkest moments. That pops into my mind
Zombies was a shame
That first one… that one made me cry a little. It was way too sad….
OMG this video was insane. i mean the first one almost made me cry.
Thank you for your hard work bro.
How did you almost cry from pixels🤓🤓
Immortal Hulk is good, and also really wholesome at the end. I would give it a read.
What I'm really curious about is how the hell JJ Jameson outlived Mary Jane (even with the weird radiocative thing...) and was able to talk to like an 80yo Peter in the Reign story?
Maybe he um… idk
I like the idea of magneto in the comics going through great lengths to make sure humanity survives in the comics. Fighting apocalypse alone, holding back the marvel zombies. The movies make him out to be a bad guy but dudes got some heart. And he's a total fucking goon.
every time Mr plot Armor Comics story teller try's to Replicate Hulks voice it surely putts a smile on my face...
Live long and prosper,
Your voice is amazing for this bro. I listen to these at work, and you do an amazing job of painting a visual in my mind. Well done. Wish I could sub twice
Ghost Rider: Trail of Tears and Moon Knight: The Bottom, while not being time-hopping doom sandwiches filled with magic, really starve you for some light until the end of them.
What happened to the non-mutant heroes in Age of Apocalypse?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Apocalypse#Other_anti-Apocalypse_forces
Continue down the page for more humans in the AoA timeline that are superheroes/supervillains in other timelines.
most non mutant heroes are from america so work camps/human experimentation or extermination camps
There was a two part comic dealing with it. They were pretty good.
Basically the way spider man reign killed Mary Jane is he busted in her an it was radioactive ☢️ and as he said “it’s like a million little spiders crawling in our body” if I remeber
Kinda HYPOCRITICAL to have the HULK...who has literally destroyed ENTIRE CITIES during his violent rampages.. calling out that kid for ACCIDENTALLY killing someone during a botched armed robbery
.. the SAME Hulk who must have DESTROYED MILLIONS of lives HIMSELF
I mean, technically it wasn’t that same Hulk, that was the classic Hulk
Wait ... 12:55 i never saw that as Colossus willingly closing the door, i saw it as a desperate Colossus trying with all his might to keep it open and help his students, his mission was completed, he got his sister out, now he wanted to return for his team but he couldn't keep the door opened. Unless I'm missing something, there wasn't a line that implied that he closed the door, in fact he says that he has to push in order to keep it open.
The dialogue in the boxes implied he gave up. And although it’s been a while since I read AoA, it was heavily implied that he was not the noble hero of 616 at the time, and that he was fairly selfish.
@@madebycarter unless you can cite the dialogue itself it doesn't really do any good to the conversation cuz it's just conjecture. heavily implied has a subjective meaning - we know he's still selfless cuz he cares about keeping his sister safe, but *selfish* is a different thing entirely. he didnt do any of this for himself, he did it for his sister
@@MVCx_xB I was referring to the dialogue in the boxes in the video.
But sure, I’ll dig up the issue from 1995 to cite it for you.
Colossus in AoA was not the same kind spirit of 616. Iirc he was somewhat cruel and militant.
And he was not selfless. He ran over kitty pride and killed her because he was so tunnel focused on his sister. 616 colossus wouldn’t have done that. He was blind with rage and only cared his sister, nothing else. Hardly the selfless hero you make him out to be.
Damn I got a spider man reign comic by chance I just thought the cover looked cool
Craig Kyle and Chris Yost are great X-Authors. While their X-Force run was great, if I had to pick one dark, deep, and truly thought provoking X-Men story it would have to be “God Loves, Man Kills”. That graphic novel is actually the origin of Rev. Stryker and his Purifiers that you cited in the X-Force run. It’s a must read for any X-Men fan!
I would be thrilled if they closed out the marvel cinematic universe with Deadpool kills the marvel universe. It will star Stan Lee, Kevin feige, etc. and everyone will die.
dude you have to read X-Men: Red (2022) and Avengers X-Men Eternals: Judgment Day (2022). Both ongoing and they tie into each other. I won't spoil much but it takes place on Mars. the mutants (X-Men) started life on the planet and for that, a war is started. Its a story full of action that shows perspective of all 3 teams ( The Avengers, X-Men and Eternals). early into the story it looks like life on the entire planet is over.
Bro u throwing your voice to say the girls parts is funny as hell! Keep it up!
I remember when Age of Apocalypse started, in Wolverine vol.2 90 a fight with Sabretooth Wolvie's got his fist under Creed's chin, pops two claws then as he pops the middle claw up into Creed's brain, reality shifts into AoA
Great video! at 16:30 you say mortified, but that means embarrassed, not devastated.
Maybe there can be a future Sony Spider-man movie called Spider-man Reign. Who likes the idea of that regardless of it for being too dark for Marvel? Because I think it'll appeal to the majority of comic book audiences.
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I really liked Reign. I'd watch that
I remember when I heard about the immortal hulk when I was younger, and I was traumatized
This is one of the best comic-book YT videos I have ever seen. I've been reading/collecting since the 70s. I walked out of Tim Burton's Batman, at the theater, because I was into the deranged Killing Joke Joker. Jack Nicholson prancing around in that Batman 66 era costume and dancing to Prince, was like nails on a chalkboard. I am always looking for the dark storylines and characters. Thanks for this. I'm going to start digging into your other videos and def recommend your channel.
Why would Hulk have memories of Bruce's childhood if Hulk wasn't part of Bruce yet back then? Also, was Sasquatch actually his father?
Bruce has d.i.d. i.e. dissociative identity disorder, formerly known as split personality disorder. Those personalities were created in those childhood traumas Bruce suffered. Gamma simply gave them physical forms.
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Kraven used to take some sort of exotic potion that enhanced his abilities?
Age of Apocalypse is one of my favorite X-men comics
Oh my... I'm here😍 this video is sooooooooooo good😍
Immortal hulk may be one of my favorite comics about hulk ever
Disney in the mirror universe: which ideas should I use to make the first edgy marvel movie. The first marvel movie should be called Ruins.
"but what happen when things go wrong" at the intro has me laughing more than it should
That Hulk voice was legit my guy
Leaving out Absolute Carnage: Separation Anxiety is just wrong.
24:53 all that they had just gone through *
Crime doesn't pay. Unless the crime is vigilantism with assault and battery.
8:21 this why I like cartoons, they always have strong messages behind them
Spider-Man Reign itself ended hopeful, so it's a shame that all the stupid Morlund crap pissed on it during the Spider-Verse stuff.
Dude, I was able to trade for a copy of Spiderman: kraven's last hunt. That is so badass, I didn't expect something I had to be featured lol.
Thank you for sharing, keep doing what you do!!!
Ruins is obvious edge lord stuff lol I love berserk, I get it. Hah but thats obvious it'd be up there in every other video, it's cool seeing other stories for once
Cool series! Keep them coming
Didn’t old Spiderman get his head crushed by Mary Janes grave stone💀💀💀at the end💀💀💀???
Hulk is a voilent monster, Not what Marvel has done to Dave and his monster today.
When i was young Hulk was a beast.
Like any werewolf horror. Complete with Fulchi Eyeshots in the tv series when he turned.
Gee i am old. 😌
Great video as always, keep up the great work
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Super helpful, totally worth watching
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7:51 lol good ol super hero plot armor
I'm loving these videos keep up the dope ass vids bro
35:30 As above.... So below..... Esoteric moment.
Wow, fantastic video. Thanks a lot!
That’s fantastic, thanks for sharing
Idea: What if Kraven consumed Spider-Man and became a Totem?
7:05 bro just switched skins💀
Great stuff. Thanks for sharing
I imagine a zombie Arthur just standing over his grave watching the sunset
Not happy they didn't include the Soul of the Hunter, it's what happens to Kraven's soul after the Last Hunt...
wow, great video. thanks so much
34:30 that second picture looks like the dog transformation mutation thing from Ben10 (it’s been a really long time since I watched Ben10 I don’t remember the names sry)
Doing something dangerous only to be disappointed that you're still alive isn't that dark. I call that Tuesday. Pretty much every other day too. C'mon Sugarman. Smoosh my head!
Kraven had to prove he was better by poisoning, trapping and gunning down the spiderman. Truly wild
Hulk took that personal
I don't like the modern art style at all. I can tell it was rendered on a computer, plus the quality is wildly inconsistent.
@@wjjajshshdbdnnsndhbauhwhshs it used to be that's the point.
@@punksnotdeaditsconservativ1693 Nobody cares.
@@punksnotdeaditsconservativ1693 Maybe get with the times and stop living in the past 🤡
The one that creeped out the most was Deadpool kills the marvel universe 2. He ate Spider-Man!!😭
I always enjoy the Kraven comics. Mostly because I love seeing aristocrats cry about their rich people problems before getting beaten down.
Kraven actually had super strength and senses too though
That Spider-Man "Reign" looks like a fan fic, not a top-tier publisher's work... Some of it looks cool, but most of it looks off.
I’m thinking of starting off books of Luke Cage volumes
In truth if it was actually the 5 darkest marvel comics, they would all be spider man. Though 1 comic that at least for me make the 5 comics shown other than the spider man one look child like and carefree is: Darkhold: Iron Man
I really hated Kraven's last hunt. It was not only depresing, but, frankly, quite boring.
Kraven’s spidey shower is… one strategy…
The first story was the darkest for me.
It’s funny because Kraven did kill Peter but the FANS HATED THAT so the writers bought him back
Funny how two of these are hulk, but for sure she-hulk has suffered far more than bruce ever has. After all, she gets advice about her job, gets catcalled occasionally on the street, and is accountable for her body count.
7:34 quipping and jumping and fucking killing them*