What isn't nearly discussed enough is how these people still get away with absurd severance packages that give them golden parachutes even if they're fired.
Which just seems ass-backwards to me. "You've been made redundant, here's enough to pay rent for maybe a month" vs "you are the REASON THE OTHER GUY AND 500 OF HIS FRIENDS GOT MADE REDUNDANT, EVERYONE HATES US BECAUSE OF YOU, YOU'RE FIRED WITH CAUSE.... here's a good 5% of ALL THE MONEY we made last year"
because the only people that care about it are the people without any power to do anything about it. Why would the people in these positions take any stance that would result in them making less money? The people in charge of these companies who are not currently the CEO's getting golden parachutes are the ones who hope they'll be next.
I'm pretty sure that as of now, every company Riccitello has been in charge of has been worth less when he left than when he was hired. Why would ANYONE ever hire this man again?
Streetpass worked as intended for me in my high-school. Got a lot of people every day. You always knew somewhere among all the backpacks was a 3ds with Smash or Pokemon ORAS or FE Fates permanently lodged into it because the kid that owns it was currently obsessed with it
i imagine how pat reads the news is he just scrolls through a giant feed of text at full speed nonstop in five seconds as he's rushing to his office to do the podcast lol. no fucks given and i respect it
At least in the question of Unity, most certainly, it's reported that he didn't even want most of the changes that they were doing. With public companies, they are run at the behest of the Board and the CEO is just a Mouthpiece of Sauron. They didn't even really walk back most of the stuff they did, instead putting a timeline on it.
That is arguably what the job of CEO is. You get paid a bajillion dollars to be the guy who gets nuked when the company screws up, and occasionally you’re asked to make decisions that nobody else on the board wants to have to take responsibility for. They’re not some founder visionary leader person, they’re a PR human shield - think about how much blame gets laid on Bobby Kotick and NOT the rest of Activision Blizzard upper management.
idunno about pat's Ideas About Poland. everything i read about poland i get the impression that they're (rightfully) proud of their economic success relative to most of their former Warsaw Pact neighbours, and they've been very outspoken about not wanting to go back to those days. i hope the cd projekt union succeeds, but we'll see i guess
Unfortunately the government is VERY right wing because that's who takes power when you ban all leftist opposition lmao Ironically Poland is actually the country with one of the highest regret rates for leaving the Soviet Union since it plunged Poland into one of the worst times in its history (including when Poland didn't exist!) Child prostitution was basically the only way kids could eat, a lot the social services people relied on were cut. The common person saw a serious downgrade in life, but the ones in charge sure didn't!
It's really funny he would even think that, because: (1) the main expression of opposition to the Polish People's Republic was the Solidarity trade union, which was suppressed with martial law (very pro-worker, good job reds) and (2) legal trade unions in communist states were a complete joke, nothing more than fig leaves for state control of workers.
Man speaking of street pass I remember in 2014 I went to my first wwe ppv which was elimination chamber 2014 in Minnesota. I brought my 3ds with me and had street pass on not really expecting anything. When I got home and checked it I had a ton of people on street pass. It blew my mind as a kid and kinda makes me miss street pass as a feature now
What Woolie mentions about data on a cylinder being a thing you could do, this is correct and a very old way computers did it. Obviously, it had some major limitations, so it didn't last as a medium, but he is right, you can do it and they in fact did.
It's funny how I WOULD go to school and have 30 streetpasses, but that's because I was in high school at the time. Turns out Pat and Woolie are just too old.
shit, i'm pat's age and i got plenty of use out of streetpass, and the city i lived in was much smaller than montreal. man's just talking absolute nonsense.
@gorimbaud I do think, in most parts of America or Canada, it would be almost impossible to get streetpass regularly. However in big cities at the time, you'd definitely get a lot as long as you'd keep it in your pocket/bag
@@bloodyroses4664 i mean it was really just a matter of taking your 3ds with you when you go where people might be, and you'd have a good chance at at least a hit or two. if you live somewhere rural your chances would be slimmer, but it definitely wasn't "almost impossible".
The fact that merica has always had such shit tier internet because internet service providers fucked every over and stole hundreds of billions of dollars gets me so heated. Imagine if we ACTUALLY had South Korea or Japan levels of internet everywhere no lag, insane download speeds, etc etc so many tech things we can't do would be possible.
They should use the stolen hundreds of billions of dollars to get at least large cities nearer to the speeds of small developed countries. The large surface area of the country, swaths of farmland and highways, land composition variety (mountains n’ stuff), and plenty of forests are why the country’s internet speeds will never be equivalent to smaller countries. But urban centers could get somewhat close; as could urban centers in Canada.
i went to IGN site and saw a article that Ubisoft boss got fired and was like "huh ill read that later" came back about half a hour later couldn't find that article but you know what i did find? the whole front page talking about the new ass man creed and plastered with ads and like tips and tricks :/
Woolie's preoccupation with the image of the hammer and sickle clashing together to create sparks as the end all be all personification of communism is as endearing as it is puzzling.
Even more so is altogether how they think the Polish have any form of love toward Communism because they were formerly in the bloc. The Polish HAAAAATE Communism. CDPR was just run so bad unionization was a necessity.
Pat is super right. Bioware could have made BG3 YEARS ago before Larian. They almost did, legitimately, almost did, scale and everything. Dragon Age Inquisition was ALMOST that game. It ALMOST was. But, Bioware dev hell, ruined EVERYTHING that game was trying to do and dragged it from the potential it had down to a mid 5/10, and its heartbreaking and frustrating thinking about it.
For American people from industries that are foreign to unions, I always feel like I have to clarify: a Union is not the end goal, it's the start of the fight. Unions are internally political entities and it's absolutely possible for some scum people to get leading union positions and then they will string you along for their goals, while striking tasty deals with the company for themselves. Or it can be a very formal union that is basically just taking a cut of your salary while absolutely unable to really help you in anything. Happens all the time. Can a union be a good thing? Absolutely. But you gotta be ready to put in extra work and be ready for some internal political intrigue.
With the portal I don't think it's actually a terrible idea. Like I know a lot of people with a bedside table, switch or a bedside table steam deck. So like in theory it's a perfectly valid product and use case if it works. My issue is I don't necessarily believe you can convince customers or that.
THAT'S WHY THEY BOUGHT THEN SOLD BANDCAMP?? What the fuck, that site was really instrumental for indie bands to sell their music. Why did they agree to the acquisition? I hate corpos
1. The CEO was not the only member of the board who green-lit and pushed through this change, he’s essentially the fall guy. 2. Once you’ve broken trust on the level of unity, you’re done. No one wants to build a career or games when it could still be taken away at any time.
What isn't nearly discussed enough is how these people still get away with absurd severance packages that give them golden parachutes even if they're fired.
Which just seems ass-backwards to me. "You've been made redundant, here's enough to pay rent for maybe a month" vs "you are the REASON THE OTHER GUY AND 500 OF HIS FRIENDS GOT MADE REDUNDANT, EVERYONE HATES US BECAUSE OF YOU, YOU'RE FIRED WITH CAUSE.... here's a good 5% of ALL THE MONEY we made last year"
because the only people that care about it are the people without any power to do anything about it. Why would the people in these positions take any stance that would result in them making less money? The people in charge of these companies who are not currently the CEO's getting golden parachutes are the ones who hope they'll be next.
The people who are making those decisions are the share holders.
Has there ever been a case of fired employees suing the CEO after something like this happened?
99% of which want to be in a position of power, they don't care about the products or games, they just want money number go up.@@ATMOSK1234
I'm pretty sure that as of now, every company Riccitello has been in charge of has been worth less when he left than when he was hired. Why would ANYONE ever hire this man again?
Maybe he’s the professional fall guy or something lol
Cronyism and zero accountability or liability to CEOs
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if vivendi ever need a new ceo, john riccitello would be perfect
@@obblivionkrjohn riccitello: publisher assassin. "Excellent work, Riccky T. Now get out of there."
Rip Iwata, one of the best suits in the industry.
what a strange time, it's arguably been one of the greatest years for video games, but a terrible one for the actual industry.
I wonder if this will cascade into next year. Awful games getting rushed and pushed just to make money.
I hope not but I wouldn't be surprised.@@xkavarsmith9322
A mixed bag if you will.
@@xkavarsmith9322 You mean like literally every fucking year? Lord of the Fallen (2023) JUST CAME OUT TO CATCH THAT ELDEN RING LIGHTNING MY GUY.
@@strawberin0 no, I mean literal buggy, unplayable garbage.
after a long day at work with a migraine, the gollum apology being made with chatgbt made my day a million times better
Ya know what's weird? Find out that telltale is back by hearing news about them laying off a bunch of employees
I love how Pat pronounced it as "Riccotello" instead of the actual "Riccietello" because he's thinking of No More Heroes
Streetpass worked as intended for me in my high-school. Got a lot of people every day. You always knew somewhere among all the backpacks was a 3ds with Smash or Pokemon ORAS or FE Fates permanently lodged into it because the kid that owns it was currently obsessed with it
i imagine how pat reads the news is he just scrolls through a giant feed of text at full speed nonstop in five seconds as he's rushing to his office to do the podcast lol. no fucks given and i respect it
I'd wonder if companies are hiring him specifically to be the fall guy and he's selling himself as such.
At least in the question of Unity, most certainly, it's reported that he didn't even want most of the changes that they were doing. With public companies, they are run at the behest of the Board and the CEO is just a Mouthpiece of Sauron. They didn't even really walk back most of the stuff they did, instead putting a timeline on it.
That is arguably what the job of CEO is. You get paid a bajillion dollars to be the guy who gets nuked when the company screws up, and occasionally you’re asked to make decisions that nobody else on the board wants to have to take responsibility for. They’re not some founder visionary leader person, they’re a PR human shield - think about how much blame gets laid on Bobby Kotick and NOT the rest of Activision Blizzard upper management.
idunno about pat's Ideas About Poland. everything i read about poland i get the impression that they're (rightfully) proud of their economic success relative to most of their former Warsaw Pact neighbours, and they've been very outspoken about not wanting to go back to those days. i hope the cd projekt union succeeds, but we'll see i guess
Unfortunately the government is VERY right wing because that's who takes power when you ban all leftist opposition lmao
Ironically Poland is actually the country with one of the highest regret rates for leaving the Soviet Union since it plunged Poland into one of the worst times in its history (including when Poland didn't exist!) Child prostitution was basically the only way kids could eat, a lot the social services people relied on were cut. The common person saw a serious downgrade in life, but the ones in charge sure didn't!
It's really funny he would even think that, because: (1) the main expression of opposition to the Polish People's Republic was the Solidarity trade union, which was suppressed with martial law (very pro-worker, good job reds) and (2) legal trade unions in communist states were a complete joke, nothing more than fig leaves for state control of workers.
bro really believes allowing people to unionise means the whole country goes full communism 💀
Pat, as a Canuck, sees a country that actively goes against the woke cancer that has its claws in Canada and his NPC brain override chip goes off
Man speaking of street pass I remember in 2014 I went to my first wwe ppv which was elimination chamber 2014 in Minnesota. I brought my 3ds with me and had street pass on not really expecting anything. When I got home and checked it I had a ton of people on street pass. It blew my mind as a kid and kinda makes me miss street pass as a feature now
What Woolie mentions about data on a cylinder being a thing you could do, this is correct and a very old way computers did it. Obviously, it had some major limitations, so it didn't last as a medium, but he is right, you can do it and they in fact did.
Ngl, Layoffs and Lawsuits sounds like a fun business eels and escalators. Lol
It's also a good gameshow name
Also a white collar setting for Dungeons and Dragons, in which Charisma is the god stat and everyone dumps Dexterity.
It's funny how I WOULD go to school and have 30 streetpasses, but that's because I was in high school at the time. Turns out Pat and Woolie are just too old.
shit, i'm pat's age and i got plenty of use out of streetpass, and the city i lived in was much smaller than montreal. man's just talking absolute nonsense.
I would be able to consistently get at least 10 most days on my college campus. They really are just old
@gorimbaud I do think, in most parts of America or Canada, it would be almost impossible to get streetpass regularly. However in big cities at the time, you'd definitely get a lot as long as you'd keep it in your pocket/bag
@@bloodyroses4664 i mean it was really just a matter of taking your 3ds with you when you go where people might be, and you'd have a good chance at at least a hit or two. if you live somewhere rural your chances would be slimmer, but it definitely wasn't "almost impossible".
@gorimbaud sorry I meant "almost impossible to get the results that the games intend for, regularly "
The fact that merica has always had such shit tier internet because internet service providers fucked every over and stole hundreds of billions of dollars gets me so heated.
Imagine if we ACTUALLY had South Korea or Japan levels of internet everywhere no lag, insane download speeds, etc etc so many tech things we can't do would be possible.
They should use the stolen hundreds of billions of dollars to get at least large cities nearer to the speeds of small developed countries. The large surface area of the country, swaths of farmland and highways, land composition variety (mountains n’ stuff), and plenty of forests are why the country’s internet speeds will never be equivalent to smaller countries. But urban centers could get somewhat close; as could urban centers in Canada.
Im still surprised the switch had no form of streetpass seeing as its marketed as a mobile console
Those CEO scandals really ruins everything workers hard-fought achivements.
John will be a scape goat for any corporate that wants to gauge risky business decisions.
Schlomo Doormat is quite the name. Sounds like a DnD character
damn remember when woolie tried twice to censor pats cursing?
i went to IGN site and saw a article that Ubisoft boss got fired and was like "huh ill read that later" came back about half a hour later couldn't find that article but you know what i did find? the whole front page talking about the new ass man creed and plastered with ads and like tips and tricks :/
Woolie's preoccupation with the image of the hammer and sickle clashing together to create sparks as the end all be all personification of communism is as endearing as it is puzzling.
Even more so is altogether how they think the Polish have any form of love toward Communism because they were formerly in the bloc. The Polish HAAAAATE Communism. CDPR was just run so bad unionization was a necessity.
its just a joke man
Kodick will be out in Jan of 24
And it won't matter at all because all their dev teams are hacks who can't balance a game to save their own asses
Pat is super right. Bioware could have made BG3 YEARS ago before Larian. They almost did, legitimately, almost did, scale and everything.
Dragon Age Inquisition was ALMOST that game. It ALMOST was. But, Bioware dev hell, ruined EVERYTHING that game was trying to do and dragged it from the potential it had down to a mid 5/10, and its heartbreaking and frustrating thinking about it.
There is a Mortismal Gaming video that talks about why BG3 took decades to develope.
It had the potential, but bioware writers wouldve never been able to reach that level
For American people from industries that are foreign to unions, I always feel like I have to clarify: a Union is not the end goal, it's the start of the fight. Unions are internally political entities and it's absolutely possible for some scum people to get leading union positions and then they will string you along for their goals, while striking tasty deals with the company for themselves. Or it can be a very formal union that is basically just taking a cut of your salary while absolutely unable to really help you in anything. Happens all the time.
Can a union be a good thing? Absolutely. But you gotta be ready to put in extra work and be ready for some internal political intrigue.
Ceo's are such a waste of money.
actual parasites
With the portal I don't think it's actually a terrible idea. Like I know a lot of people with a bedside table, switch or a bedside table steam deck. So like in theory it's a perfectly valid product and use case if it works. My issue is I don't necessarily believe you can convince customers or that.
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why are these last few podcast clips backgrounded with the low frequency hum of the brown note?
Didn't telltale die before during or after the last telltale walking dead game
THAT'S WHY THEY BOUGHT THEN SOLD BANDCAMP?? What the fuck, that site was really instrumental for indie bands to sell their music. Why did they agree to the acquisition? I hate corpos
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I’d be more supportive of unionization in game devs if the unions didn’t start forming up when the money stops coming in and the cuts start up.
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I don't understand why the CEO being fired doesn't give some goodwill points back to Unity. Tentative points, but points nonetheless.
1. The CEO was not the only member of the board who green-lit and pushed through this change, he’s essentially the fall guy. 2. Once you’ve broken trust on the level of unity, you’re done. No one wants to build a career or games when it could still be taken away at any time.
@@veraudinus5818 except that they learned there lesson, nullifying both your points.
lmao@@timlerch7425
@@timlerch7425No, his points are still 100% valid. I commend your naivety though.
@noslen293 big talk from someone who added nothing to the conversation.
'Fables' isn't publically owned. You can just SAY something, without it being legally enforced.
He didn't say it, he declared it.
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