Michael Shellenberger on America’s Cultural Crisis

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  • Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
  • Journalist and author Michael Shellenberger explains the crisis of faith currently facing the West. From the medicalization of children to the breakdown of law and order, Michael highlights how cultural decay and dogmatic liberalism have eroded our basic values. He contends that without a moral framework, religious or otherwise, societies end up encouraging destructive behaviors in the name of “progress.” Michael believes that the pragmatic spirit of America will eventually prevail against this crisis and reassert pro-human and pro-civilization values, such as meritocracy, law and order, and individual freedom.
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  • @DadSavesAmerica
    @DadSavesAmerica  5 дней назад +2

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  • @suetipping4841
    @suetipping4841 8 дней назад +84

    The darkness is undeniable. I no longer go into the marketplace as I used to do. I am afraid for my granddaughters and even afraid for other's grandchildren now. And worst of all, the darkness is intentional brought to us by rulers who hate us. Tragic. Shakespearean. Deadly. I cling to God in a quiet manner.

    • @Dapryor
      @Dapryor 7 дней назад +2

      Damn, that’s well said.

    • @Gizziiusa
      @Gizziiusa 5 дней назад +1

      ...and to think, in all probability, its going to get worse. Much Worse.

    • @runswithraptors
      @runswithraptors 5 дней назад

      This sounds like Shakespeare 😅 I know the feeling though, hard to even be in public and not witness/feel the evil

    • @suetipping4841
      @suetipping4841 5 дней назад

      @@runswithraptors When others respond, I do not feel quite so alone. There is a comfort in knowing others are witnessing.

    • @kaybrown7733
      @kaybrown7733 4 дня назад

      Lol America is responsible for its own problems. Stop blaming others because you cheer on the leaders here, and then cry about the consequences later. Grow up!

  • @robertaustin6940
    @robertaustin6940 8 дней назад +89

    It's not collapsing, it's being taken down.

    • @Belzediel
      @Belzediel 7 дней назад +2

      Uh oh, something alerted the analogy police...

    • @Usca1990Asis
      @Usca1990Asis 6 дней назад +5

      Agreed. 10 years ago and even 20 things were different and liberalism wasn’t so toxic.

    • @ZunarXJ59
      @ZunarXJ59 6 дней назад +3

      ​@@Belzedielwell ur just sitting there. thank God they're here

    • @Gizziiusa
      @Gizziiusa 5 дней назад

      intentionally, deliberately....by design. its all part of an agenda.

    • @kathrynoneill81
      @kathrynoneill81 3 дня назад

      Yes, by an assortment of foreign interference and globalist organizations & corporations. Open borders, carbon taxes, climate alarm all just part of the UN agenda.

  • @davidbrims5825
    @davidbrims5825 6 дней назад +38

    ‘’ Evil will become good and good will become evil.’’

    • @patrickahaus6570
      @patrickahaus6570 4 дня назад +2

      Evil exists ehen Good People do nothing.

    • @Worldofourown2024
      @Worldofourown2024 2 дня назад

      Out of the chaos of Orwell's 1984. We used to watch science fiction movies always saying unthinkable fictional scenarios won't happen in the real world.
      And here we are wondering where our next meal is coming from. Wondering when the collapse and war goes off for a new order out chaos is their crazy new deal not in our favor.

  • @honkingonbobo
    @honkingonbobo 5 дней назад +14

    We entered the Weimar Republic era a little while ago. Glad my children will be homeschooled once they get to elementary school age.

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 5 дней назад

      We were headed to it when the Federal Reserve act was passed. Money printer go brr ruins everythibg every time.

    • @pennyculliton378
      @pennyculliton378 3 дня назад

      Well, yes, these times here do remind me of the end of the Weimar Republic. But that's a function of the rise of the far right-- just as it was in 1932.

    • @honkingonbobo
      @honkingonbobo 3 дня назад

      @@pennyculliton378 The 'far right' rose as an opposition to the moral degradation and pedophilic evils of the Weimar era. History doesn't repeat itself but it does rhyme.

    • @BrockOBauma
      @BrockOBauma День назад

      ​@@pennyculliton378 lol, ok.

    • @aimeedouglas1584
      @aimeedouglas1584 20 часов назад

      @@pennyculliton378yes, because all our institutions and media and cultural icons are so deeply embedded by the “far right” 🙄

  • @nancybaumgartner6774
    @nancybaumgartner6774 8 дней назад +62

    Countries are “rich” until they get overrun and consumed by bureaucrats.

    • @gurgamous
      @gurgamous 7 дней назад

      and those bureaucrats always use the welfare of humanity as their alibi en route to becoming tyrants.

  • @Seekthetruth3000
    @Seekthetruth3000 День назад +2

    Michael Shellenberger is a true patriot.

  • @darkcircles1313
    @darkcircles1313 4 дня назад +7

    We, as a nation, as a culture, assume that it was last forever but history shows time and again that nothing is permanent and everything changes with time. Maybe we should begin to acknowledge that 50% of the nation wants to live one way and 50% doesn’t. Both sides have positives and negatives but both are clearly incompatible

    • @BevWood-e8g
      @BevWood-e8g 4 дня назад

      @@darkcircles1313 the irony is that the 50% of people who vote for democrats don’t really want to live the way they vote. They vote for progressive politicians that destroy the society for everyone else while they live in a wealthy enclave that doesn’t see the negative results of their own intervention. That’s why so many people are moving from blue states to red states. The problem is the progressives don’t understand that their compassionate policies create the worst possible incentives and that’s why they don’t work. So they point the finger and blame a scapegoat as to why the country is falling apart.

  • @greglarson6293
    @greglarson6293 8 дней назад +18

    I wish we could go back to a time when men wore suits and women wore dresses not matter how poor, people appreciated living in America, teachers were respected, cops were respected, children were seen but not heard, and liberals were simply pro-union and not whatever they’ve degenerated into now.

    • @MyTruth1771
      @MyTruth1771 5 дней назад +1

      What year or decade best exemplifies this time period for you?

    • @pennyculliton378
      @pennyculliton378 3 дня назад

      I've been teaching for over 40 years and I have NEVER felt appreciated by being told how to dress or to wear a dress (which I DO most days because I find it more comfortable). What an asinine assertion.

  • @mustang607
    @mustang607 8 дней назад +38

    The rise of active narcissism and personal irresponsibility.

    • @katieandnick4113
      @katieandnick4113 7 дней назад

      But why? That doesn’t just come from nowhere. Humans are not inherently selfish, as evidenced by the fact that we survived for hundreds of thousands of years, relying only on each other and nature. Something changed, and it wasn’t four years ago or ten years ago or fifty years ago or a thousand years ago. Always ask “why?” Where is this suffering coming from? Why are human beings so miserable?

    • @stvbrsn
      @stvbrsn 6 дней назад +2

      Except when you say “the rise of” it sounds kind of organic.
      “Weaponization of active narcissism” would be more apt.

    • @thisisobviouslynotmyrealname
      @thisisobviouslynotmyrealname 3 дня назад

      ​@@katieandnick4113 i think its got to do with the extremely rapid economic and technological development of western societies in the last few decades. Theyve became super rich and this produced a sense of complacency and an hedonistic narcissist culture that despises religion and tradition.

    • @geebeeinga
      @geebeeinga 21 час назад

      @@katieandnick4113Well, let’s start with your erroneous premise that humans are not inherently selfish. Actually, humans are absolutely selfish. There is nothing observable over the millennia that says anything different. Of course we have the ability to do unselfish things and make personal sacrifices, and frequently do on smaller scales. But humans are self-centered beings to our very core. It’s also erroneous when people say, “I believe people are basically good” yet nothing suggests that people are inherently good. Again, observation and historical evidence suggests the opposite. These blanket premises of unselfish and good people simply are not true. Human nature is to be selfish and do bad things. It doesn’t necessarily mean that each and every person cannot do good and unselfish things, but on the whole that is not the case. The answers to your question in the latter portion of your post is in front of all of us. The ‘why’ is because it is our nature - and the suffering we create is due to that nature. We are miserable (and empty) because we are selfish and there is only one way to overcome our nature.

    • @RobBigs-lu8bq
      @RobBigs-lu8bq 16 часов назад

      Thats really it. Its the acceptance of narcissism and profoundly disingenuous social behavior for an ulterior motive. The American worker has been pimped since the 70s, export all the jobs and bring in migrants for low level jobs here, entire industries, construction, restaurant work, its all illegal immigrants now. Its just a business. The core of the American people have a gov that sold them out decades ago, they dont mean anything to anyone other than themselves, and are openly reviled. Your politicians not only failed you, but actively sold you out, used fear to marginalize your economic interest and health at every turn.

  • @askedkedeldeif
    @askedkedeldeif 5 дней назад +5

    This is a wild time y’all, but just know I love you fellow humans and we’re in this screwed up mess together. Even as we struggle and worry right now we need to hang onto our humanity. Please help each other and be kind to one another right now, love your loved ones and show them the best times you can right now.

  • @LK-mo8bj
    @LK-mo8bj 7 дней назад +14

    It's a problem to set morality standards without Judeo Christian values. That is what all of Western legal and cultural norms are based on. You can't have the civilisation we are accustomed to without the morality of these two religions.

    • @ecleveland1
      @ecleveland1 7 дней назад +3

      No, we can’t. It’s impossible to have and enjoy the freedoms our country was founded upon without morals. We kicked God out of our country in the 1960’s and we started losing the very morality that this form of government is dependent upon. We broke the covenant with God.

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 5 дней назад +1

      How did shintoism, buddhism, and confucianism manage to work?

    • @byron739
      @byron739 5 дней назад

      Christian values, yes. The (((jew))) part is what is destroying the West.

    • @terryvalentino3112
      @terryvalentino3112 5 дней назад +3

      Ask the Chinese how that worked out against communism ​@@skylinefever

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 5 дней назад

      @@terryvalentino3112 I don't know, I was too busy asking how it led to South Korea making KPop and Japan animating hit movies.

  • @kkrenken895
    @kkrenken895 8 дней назад +33

    Yeah. We’re done.

  • @derekwhite9932
    @derekwhite9932 8 дней назад +65

    Actual Justice Warrior has been covering how we're soft on violent crime, but go hard on self defense. The activist ignore the violence.

    • @D-Fens_1632
      @D-Fens_1632 8 дней назад +9

      Give YOU? Give me the money....

    • @bianchaesson1441
      @bianchaesson1441 7 дней назад +2

      ​@@D-Fens_1632???

    • @tessahall797
      @tessahall797 7 дней назад +2

      @@bianchaesson1441if you know, you know.

    • @ZunarXJ59
      @ZunarXJ59 6 дней назад

      ​@@tessahall797nice

    • @TERMINATOR101-b8j
      @TERMINATOR101-b8j 5 дней назад +2

      ​@@D-Fens_1632 I can hear her voice just reading that.

  • @theodoremccarthy4438
    @theodoremccarthy4438 8 дней назад +35

    If you approach the question of how to make civilization work from the assumption that it has to work for every group, then you’ve already doomed your civilization. Not all cultures are compatible, and maintaining a civilization is dependent on maintaining its cultural standards.

    • @nowistime8070
      @nowistime8070 8 дней назад +6

      that is a very important perspective.

    • @ecleveland1
      @ecleveland1 7 дней назад +6

      That’s the very reason we have so many different cultures on this planet. We all can’t just get along together as one. Separately letting each culture have their own space and not forcing others into agreeing with you works. We can trade and share but it’s much better when we don’t force cultures to exist together when it’s better when they each have their own spaces. People used to come to America and assimilate but that stopped somewhere along the way. It’s sure not working now.

    • @Usca1990Asis
      @Usca1990Asis 6 дней назад +2

      Agreed.

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 4 дня назад

      This is why I joke about the "Intersection of gay rights and ending Islamophobia" to mock the stupidity of modern leftism.

  • @psikeyhackr6914
    @psikeyhackr6914 7 дней назад +6

    70 years of planned obsolescence in automobiles which economists do not talk about while ignoring the depreciation of durable consumer goods is so civilized!
    What is Net Domestic Product anyway?
    Adam Smith wrote "read, write and ACCOUNT" multiple times in Wealth of Nations. When have economists suggested mandatory accounting in the schools?

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 5 дней назад

      Our economics got replaced with line go up next fiscal quarter is gud thing.

  • @larkinwalton4360
    @larkinwalton4360 7 дней назад +7

    Wasn’t nietzsche, it was Dostoevsky who said in the Brother’s Karamazov, if there is no immortality then there is no more nobility and thus everything is permitted.

  • @pattyevans9250
    @pattyevans9250 8 дней назад +37

    I heard someone say this, and it struck me as a perfect synopsis of our times..."no one is asking for forgiveness, or mercy, anymore. Everyone is demanding permission for anything."

    • @RooftopCiv
      @RooftopCiv 7 дней назад

      It’s not even a demand, they expect the world to curve to their way.

    • @ecleveland1
      @ecleveland1 7 дней назад +2

      I don’t even think they are asking for permission. It’s more like they are telling you to like it or else.

    • @ZunarXJ59
      @ZunarXJ59 6 дней назад +1

      Asking permission? Nah bro, they're telling

  • @channelmoved9096
    @channelmoved9096 4 дня назад +6

    Sounds like Shellemberger didn't read TS Elliot's book on Christian Society. "The inevitable result of Liberalism, in the end, is Totalitarianism.

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 4 дня назад

      Auron McEntyre's The Total State book does a better job.

  • @jackalopewright5343
    @jackalopewright5343 3 дня назад +1

    The fact that so many crimes are no longer considered crimes, isn’t that the definition of a collapse?

  • @barbarareed9308
    @barbarareed9308 4 дня назад +1

    Correction. In 2023, US women aborted 1,026,700 babies😢

  • @stevenwonnacott3669
    @stevenwonnacott3669 8 часов назад

    Shellenberger certainly has a firm grasp and understanding of the evils that permeate of society today...he is spot on with his views!

  • @Skippy-s1g
    @Skippy-s1g 8 дней назад +38

    The only way to improve behavior is through hardship. Nothing else will convince people to do what they don't want to do.

    • @marysisak2359
      @marysisak2359 8 дней назад +1

      agreed. People will always take the easy way out.

    • @ecleveland1
      @ecleveland1 7 дней назад +4

      Don’t worry it’s coming.

    • @Skippy-s1g
      @Skippy-s1g 7 дней назад +3

      @@ecleveland1 that's what I'm hoping for. And I'm going to laugh until I piss my pants.

    • @BevWood-e8g
      @BevWood-e8g 6 дней назад

      I returned to my Catholic faith once I was able to understand this ideology.

    • @TheMoodyLoners
      @TheMoodyLoners 6 дней назад +3

      You’re exactly right. Societal collapse is enabled when we continually lessen the cost for being stupid and self destructive

  • @barbarareed9308
    @barbarareed9308 5 дней назад +15

    In 2023, US women aborted 1,26,700 babies 😢

    • @jr2904
      @jr2904 4 дня назад +1

      You're missing a digit

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 4 дня назад

      Find a way to make people actually want those babies.
      Just banning abortion causes communist Romania.

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 4 дня назад

      I wonder the the abortion ban states are just going to have masses of hated children turning into dysfunctional adults, like communist Romania did.

    • @Worldofourown2024
      @Worldofourown2024 2 дня назад +1

      So, I don't care. There already aren't enough resources, loving parents, food, and housing to go around.

    • @Worldofourown2024
      @Worldofourown2024 2 дня назад +1

      It won't matter for there isn't enough housing, food, drinking water, adequate schools, infrastructure, and loving parents for the kids that must endure.

  • @kevinholden-ip5fz
    @kevinholden-ip5fz 8 дней назад +20

    Yes….it is collapsing!

  • @GodessQueenTila
    @GodessQueenTila 2 дня назад +1

    WHEN YOU EXALT SATAN OVER JESUS THEN OF COURSE THE NATION WILL PLUNGE INTO HELL, DESOLATION, OPPRESSION, AND POVERTY.

  • @1127batkinson
    @1127batkinson 8 дней назад +29

    Love Shellenberger's pragmatism.

  • @johnrinke8080
    @johnrinke8080 5 дней назад +4

    When you get 200 bodies laying in a pile at a funeral home.civilization has collapsed.florence colorado

  • @mattanderson6672
    @mattanderson6672 День назад

    Brilliant discussion, I enjoyed listening to that
    Thank you both !!
    Thank you gentlemen!!

  • @williambarry8015
    @williambarry8015 8 дней назад +24

    The smoke from the fires makes it feel like civilization is collapsing.

  • @iansmith8783
    @iansmith8783 8 дней назад +61

    It was Dostoevsky who wrote, "if there is no God, then everything is permitted"

    • @truthaboveall7988
      @truthaboveall7988 8 дней назад

      God permits everything- that’s how men justify the most atrocious atrocities like the genocide we’re committing today - God gave America control over the world - God also gave Zionists power over Palestinians it’s very confusing

    • @robertholland7558
      @robertholland7558 8 дней назад +1

      But who or what is this”god”?
      You are god, and god is you, just everyone else is.
      We are not to harm each other.
      When we do we also harm ourselves, we harm “God” in both ways.
      Then one is no longer god, no longer human.

    • @iansmith8783
      @iansmith8783 8 дней назад

      @@robertholland7558 shellenberger attributed the quote to friedrich nietszche. I just wanted to point out the error, i'm not trying to make a point.

    • @nnotny
      @nnotny 8 дней назад +3

      @@robertholland7558 Ooo, so progressive and free in your thought. Except that I've been reading the same mushy crap since the 60's, and here we are, everybody is their own little universe.

    • @robertholland7558
      @robertholland7558 8 дней назад

      @@nnotny we are and are part of the universe at the same time.
      That you have been reading that for over 60 years, and still not realise this is sad .
      Calling it mushy crap indicates you have not experienced reality in its entirety.

  • @byronbuchanan3066
    @byronbuchanan3066 2 дня назад +1

    Jesus Christ is the answer. Just because Christians disagree about some things does not invalidate the faith. Without Jesus mankind will always fail and suffer.

  • @bdanielnyc
    @bdanielnyc 4 дня назад +2

    Why is it that our elected leaders refuse to have these kinds of public conversations, with the goal of improving our society and culture?

    • @sullathehutt7720
      @sullathehutt7720 День назад

      Because democracy isn't about sustaining civilization.
      It's about dismantling civilization and selling off the remains.

  • @kaybrown7733
    @kaybrown7733 4 дня назад +1

    Tell the truth about how bad the cops are. Thats not demonizing them. It's simply the truth. Grow up!

  • @thereissomecoolstuff
    @thereissomecoolstuff 8 дней назад +31

    There is no benefit to this man to speak the truth. It will only hurt his economic opportunities. His sacrifice, viewpoints and courage are acknowledged and appreciated.

    • @SpasmodiusHyperFantasia
      @SpasmodiusHyperFantasia 8 дней назад +1

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      yardbird
      transport
      a person captured and kept confined by an enemy, opponent, or criminal.
      "200 rebels were taken prisoner"
      Similar:
      prisoner of war
      POW
      hostage
      captive
      detainee
      internee
      a person who is or feels confined or trapped by a situation or set of circumstances.
      "he's become a prisoner of the publicity he's generated"
      Phrases
      take no prisoners - be ruthlessly aggressive or uncompromising in the pursuit of one's objectives.

    • @SpasmodiusHyperFantasia
      @SpasmodiusHyperFantasia 8 дней назад

      WoW definitely documented that censorship. lol Eat ----- and suck ----- you're the one who's implying innuendo

    • @thereissomecoolstuff
      @thereissomecoolstuff 8 дней назад

      @@SpasmodiusHyperFantasia this would be badass if it wasn’t cut and paste. Not here for the grammar.

    • @SpasmodiusHyperFantasia
      @SpasmodiusHyperFantasia 8 дней назад +1

      @thereissomecoolstuff when it comes to the text book example it is as it states

    • @SpasmodiusHyperFantasia
      @SpasmodiusHyperFantasia 7 дней назад

      @thereissomecoolstuff that's why
      it's because I'm a cut and paste guy
      when it comes to most of what I say
      It's chill but not for the lay
      And for the right of way
      on what to say
      Just come and look this way
      The dictionary is the passage to way against the context is not without pay now this is not scripted so how's that for a rhyme

  • @lumo5691
    @lumo5691 3 дня назад

    Absolutely 💯

  • @bircruz555
    @bircruz555 4 дня назад +2

    Civilization preexisted America by thousands of years, and it will survive long after the American empire dissolves. And all empires are doomed. There has been no exception. That is macro-history.

    • @sullathehutt7720
      @sullathehutt7720 День назад +1

      Unfortunately this point will be missed by hundreds of millions of occidentals who bought into Fukuyama's delusion and proceeded to de-civilize their own houses and homelands.

  • @shughy1
    @shughy1 8 дней назад +25

    Top of the list in western countries is each country should hold referendums on immigration, it's tearing it apart

    • @HonorableHombre
      @HonorableHombre 8 дней назад +1

      Too scared of the radical pinks hats so you scapegoat immigrants lol.

    • @cgsimons1187
      @cgsimons1187 8 дней назад +2

      Correct. Him adding at the end that immigration is needed was like slipping in some poison.

    • @Etymon-jt3zw
      @Etymon-jt3zw 8 дней назад

      ​​@@HonorableHombre Silly normies, still don't get it do you? They're using these illegal immigrants as weapons against us they're using them like ponds.
      They want us to fight a Civil War but there don't want to get their hands dirty. So they've hired mercenaries. A tale is old as time it's called domicide.

    • @Etymon-jt3zw
      @Etymon-jt3zw 8 дней назад

      ​@@HonorableHombre Sorry I explained it to you but RUclips does not allow the truth I guess you'll have to just figure it out for yourself good luck.

    • @HonorableHombre
      @HonorableHombre 8 дней назад

      @@Etymon-jt3zw , you aren't scaring anybody lol

  • @buckiemohawk3643
    @buckiemohawk3643 18 часов назад

    it started with the first big wave of immigration in the 80s, we had season american workers Who worked across America and spent money propping up short term rentals at motels and other places. They also had a competitiave wage because they would do lawn care for 30 bucks a day

  • @gurgamous
    @gurgamous 7 дней назад +2

    I understand people who deem humans as a sort of parasite on the earth. Problem with it is it's abjectly cynical, which is why I dont agree with it, nor do I think it's constructive in even the most remote sense.

  • @killa3x
    @killa3x 4 дня назад +1

    Parents mostly to blame. They getting played.

  • @zaneshark
    @zaneshark 5 дней назад +2

    Kali yuga, great tribulation. Call it whatever you like. It's peak civilization followed by societal collapse and the end of an age.

  • @MOOREENGAGING
    @MOOREENGAGING 8 дней назад +23

    Slight correction: I believe he meant to say Dostoyevsky not Nietzsche. Still remains an important truth.

    • @nowistime8070
      @nowistime8070 8 дней назад +1

      no it was Nietzsche

    • @MOOREENGAGING
      @MOOREENGAGING 8 дней назад +1

      It’s in The Brothers Karamazov by Dostoyevsky, though Nietzsche certainly argues for the same idea.

    • @kotenoklelu3471
      @kotenoklelu3471 Час назад

      According to Peterson Nietzsche said something like God is dead. We killed it, you and I. And there is no water in the world to wash away all the blood. He lived before the Nazis. Dostoevsky was a Russian author before communists. He is said to write about commies but I didn't read in Бесы

  • @jimb3093
    @jimb3093 4 дня назад +1

    Yep, we are far gone, no doubt.

    • @Imhimdogg
      @Imhimdogg 2 дня назад +1

      They said the same thing when slaves got free, same thing when blacks got equal rights. Someway we’ll all be the older generation having a disdain for the younger generations making a way out of this bs we thought was burning.

  • @Praenuntium
    @Praenuntium 6 дней назад +2

    Amen, we're fucked.

  • @jayha7071
    @jayha7071 4 дня назад +1

    Take God out of the equation and something will fill the void

  • @FishDoExist
    @FishDoExist 5 дней назад +1

    Would love to see Shellenberger in conversation with Daniel Schmachtenberger. #WhenBergsCollide

  • @ptrward
    @ptrward 3 дня назад +1

    The world has had 2000 years to consider the message of Jesus and that has a time limit. God describes the end times as what you are beginning to experience now as the world turns to satan. Soon, the antichrist and the tribulation will be here. Believers in Christ are removed...
    16 "For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.
    17 Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord."
    1 THESSALONIANS 4

  • @JasonDarbee
    @JasonDarbee 8 дней назад +3

    For profit culture is doom

  • @roblink4781
    @roblink4781 7 дней назад +9

    We can't be the Netherlands because we pay for their defense

    • @dixonpinfold2582
      @dixonpinfold2582 7 дней назад

      I think they've woken up to reality and are acting accordingly. They've considerably raised army, navy and air force expenditures, bringing them from 1.4% of GDP pre-Ukraine-War (2021) to 2.15% this year. They say it will tick higher to 2.22% in 2026.

    • @aleaiactaest8354
      @aleaiactaest8354 7 дней назад

      I wish you would stop that.

    • @dixonpinfold2582
      @dixonpinfold2582 7 дней назад

      @@aleaiactaest8354 👎Asinus arroganter respondit.

  • @SaxSith
    @SaxSith День назад

    That’s what fusion of cultures leads to.

  • @TheCrimsonOne508
    @TheCrimsonOne508 4 дня назад

    As a further point regarding the ethnic and cultural homogeneity of Scandinavia working in their favor, Sweden let in so many migrants that 20% of the country is foreign-born and now Sweden has a massive crime problem

  • @CarlosRosario84
    @CarlosRosario84 8 дней назад +36

    Despite all the financial struggles I and my family faced, everything is finally falling into place! $47,000 weekly profit and riches I'll always praise the Lord

    • @RandyLori
      @RandyLori 8 дней назад +2

      Do you invest with a professional broker? I would appreciate it if you could show me how to go about it.

    • @CarlosRosario84
      @CarlosRosario84 8 дней назад +1

      Thanks to Mrs. Elizabeth Regina Nelsen's time in my life, which had a profound impact on me.

    • @DavisWilson345
      @DavisWilson345 8 дней назад

      Wow! Kind of in shock you mentioned expert, Elizabeth Regina Nelsen. What a coincidence!!

    • @creepy288
      @creepy288 8 дней назад

      Elizabeth Regina Nelsen has really set the standard for others to follow, we love her here in the UK as she has been really helpful and changed lots of lives

    • @CarrissaBarney242
      @CarrissaBarney242 8 дней назад

      Life is easier when the cash keeps popping
      in, thanks to Elizabeth Regina Nelsen's services. Glad she's getting the recognition she deserves

  • @soccersprint
    @soccersprint 2 дня назад

    F the IRS

  • @crobinson93
    @crobinson93 14 часов назад

    Liberalism has nothing to do with the opioid crisis .This guy is full of it. Now if he’s talking about neoliberalism, that’s a different story.

  • @barbarareed9308
    @barbarareed9308 4 дня назад

    Thanks!

  • @zwatwashdc
    @zwatwashdc 6 дней назад

    These are the same kind of conversations about moral degradation we have been having for centuries. In a way, this is how our civilization functions. If you are looking to the civilization to give you a moral structure and raise your children, you are looking in the wrong place. If you believe your civilization’s lies, everything is very confusing.

  • @D-Fens_1632
    @D-Fens_1632 8 дней назад +4

    Eventually we'll probably have two territories, reservations of sorts, perhaps in the South and central/upper Midwest, maybe the Northeast, where the remaining old world, historically Christian, European whites will settle. I'd speculate on the rest of the country but I'd rather my comment not disappear.

    • @BevWood-e8g
      @BevWood-e8g 4 дня назад

      @@D-Fens_1632 I think that the federal government will quickly arrange to bring millions of more migrants to settle in those zones. People haven’t realized this is a class warfare and identity politics is just the avenue through which they are waging it.

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 4 дня назад

      I always loved the idea of making the leftists build their own diversotopias and Wakandas.

  • @scout2469
    @scout2469 День назад

    God is a requirement for the elevation of human beings above animals.
    That is one of the many reasons why I believe in the God of the Jews, I am a Noahide.

  • @marioevora9269
    @marioevora9269 8 дней назад +2

    Dostoiévski said “if God doesn’t exist than everything is permitted”, not Nietzsche.

    • @LeeGee
      @LeeGee 8 дней назад

      Ivan Karamazov

    • @kotenoklelu3471
      @kotenoklelu3471 Час назад

      Peterson said that Nietzsche said something like God is dead. We killed it. And there is no water to wash away all the blood... He was German philosopher before Nazis become a thing. Dostoevsky was Russian writer before communists became a thing. He actually wrote about communists. But I didn't read. Something in Бесы I guess

  • @onceamusician5408
    @onceamusician5408 8 дней назад +3

    I read somewhere that America has gone from being a raw youth, a brash and noisy adolescent, to drooling senescence . . . .
    WITHOUT any intervening period of societal maturity

  • @Bianchifox
    @Bianchifox 7 дней назад +1

    Capitalism being born in the Netherlands is not totally wrong, but probably it is more precise to say it was born in Belgium, more in particular in Flanders and Brabant. It depends a bit on what you call the start of capitalism exactly (there were of course the city states in northern Italy), but the first real stock market was in Antwerp since 1531 (you can still visit it today 'Handelsbeurs'). Holland thrived after the Habsburgian low countries (not exactly, but more or less Belgium and Netherlands today) were split over catholic/protestant division (also leading to migration from south to north) between a protestant northern part (not exactly, but more or less Netherlands today) and then in Spanish catholic hands southern part (not exactly, but largely Belgium today).

    • @sanniepstein4835
      @sanniepstein4835 7 дней назад

      Dutch painters demonstrated that artists did not need to be court pets to achieve greatness.

  • @juliesuberg8965
    @juliesuberg8965 8 дней назад

    the philosopher Kathleen Stock Feminism Between
    Right and Left gave a useful framework to view the take by right and left on liberalism

  • @jones6119
    @jones6119 3 дня назад

    Why would someone want to take fentanyl? I don’t understand.

  • @mrfarenheit9159
    @mrfarenheit9159 8 дней назад +3

    Yo Mike, on the decreasing test scores in schools, Charles Murray has a book you should read.

    • @jaykay6387
      @jaykay6387 7 дней назад +1

      When he started blaming "the schools" I wanted to smack my forehead. It's not "the schools", or the "teachers", or the lack of funding. In Baltimore last year, 40% of the high schools did not have even "1" person who tested as "proficient" in math. Let that soak in for a moment. If that doesn't highlight the profound problem we have in this country, nothing will.

    • @mrfarenheit9159
      @mrfarenheit9159 7 дней назад

      @@jaykay6387 and we just waved in 10 million 90ish IQ mesoAmericans who will further drag down school performance..but look on the bright side, Dwayne Aleizando Mountain Dew Camacho is now a lock for the presidency in the 2050s!!!

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 5 дней назад +1

      I often said if you could get the Idiocracy to quit breeding, you could get much better schools.

    • @BrockOBauma
      @BrockOBauma День назад

      ​@jaykay6387 but math is racist.

  • @beinghuman927
    @beinghuman927 5 дней назад +1

    1:30 Since when is fentanyl and meth just a "Liberal" thing to do?

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 5 дней назад

      Conservatives say that free market capitalism is great, therefore people should be allowed to buy genuine drugs.

    • @jr2904
      @jr2904 4 дня назад

      They're the ones that permit it. Look at Portland Oregon and their stupid experiment with making every drug legal

    • @Acejustforalaugh
      @Acejustforalaugh 3 дня назад

      They support it.Take Oregon for instance. And or open boarders with the drugs pouring in. 😮

  • @GrumpyStiltskin316
    @GrumpyStiltskin316 8 дней назад +13

    Mr Schellenberger is an international treasure. I disagree with him on two points… The forces driving this culture war are not liberal in origin; that’s simply a guise. Also, while it’s really semantics, I feel it important to remind everyone that Covid did nothing to stifle the educational or social development of children. It was our response to the virus that added to the problem.

    • @GrumpyStiltskin316
      @GrumpyStiltskin316 8 дней назад

      @@Helloitsme328 100%.

    • @sdrc92126
      @sdrc92126 8 дней назад +3

      Gnosticism is the root of modernity. Eric Voegelin argued that communism, alongside other modern ideologies like National Socialism and progressivism, can be understood as a form of secularized Gnosticism, essentially claiming that communism acts as a "religion of Gnosticism" by mirroring key Gnostic beliefs in a political context; particularly the idea of achieving a utopian "heaven on earth" through revolutionary action, rather than through traditional religious practices.
      Some of the beliefs of Gnosticism include: The god of the Old Testament is the devil Jesus is trying to liberate people from the god of the Old Testament Humans are Gods who need to realize their inherent Divinity The material cosmos is the result of a primordial error by a divine being

    • @GrumpyStiltskin316
      @GrumpyStiltskin316 8 дней назад

      @@sdrc92126 what you described, which I’ve become more familiar with over the past couple years, almost sounds like a perversion of the spiritual/religious notion that we are all of the divine. A notion that I’ve been intrigued by for awhile. “We,” not being a select group of people with the exclusion of (or “othering” of) others, and still bound by flesh with all its imperfections. When any group of people decides to worship themselves and each other while rejecting or demonizing anyone who challenges their beliefs, their “allyship,” or their egos, that group becomes dangerous. A paradoxical combination of collective corruption and submission.

    • @cameronhickey7771
      @cameronhickey7771 6 дней назад

      ​@@sdrc92126 sounds like the gnostics got it right.

    • @sdrc92126
      @sdrc92126 6 дней назад

      @@cameronhickey7771 It's a tool of the elite to justify killing -millions- billions. There is no limit to the amount of eggs that must be broken towards the great sacred omelette. But it never works, they gain more power

  • @AmeliaHuckleberry
    @AmeliaHuckleberry 4 дня назад

    The flip way you dismissed people’s physical pain was disturbing. Have you ever had severe or chronic pain? People suffer so badly that they want to die, and so it’s a good thing to have well managed pain control.

    • @kotenoklelu3471
      @kotenoklelu3471 Час назад

      He talked about back pain. You kill your backs by taking opioids. You fools

  • @FekaduDegaga-s1z
    @FekaduDegaga-s1z 8 дней назад +3

    “Where there is a will there is a way “ If we know, things are not okay and we are heading to wrong direction. Why not we do the right thing for the future generation. Generation responsible to lead American and the world. Thanks.

    • @ecleveland1
      @ecleveland1 7 дней назад

      It’s too late we are past that time. We just haven’t accepted it yet.

  • @ambiorixvargas6052
    @ambiorixvargas6052 3 дня назад

    before we born we are dying anyway

  • @Orson2u
    @Orson2u 8 дней назад +1

    At 7m, Shellenbrger raises the experience of the Dutch. The United Provinces of the Netherlands was thr first middle class nation in the world. But while Britain did this usung coal wnd stream power, the Dutch used water power -- dikes.

    • @Belzediel
      @Belzediel 7 дней назад +2

      You can't call them that any more.

    • @alexander8688
      @alexander8688 4 дня назад

      😁​ big ferocious dikes.@@Belzediel

  • @MichaelPhillip156
    @MichaelPhillip156 8 дней назад +39

    *The wisest thing that should be on everyone's mind currently should be to invest in different streams of income that don't depend on the government. Especially with the current economic crisis around the world. This is still a good time to invest in gold, silver, and digital currencies (BTC, ETH...)*

    • @SandraBennett170
      @SandraBennett170 8 дней назад

      I began investing in stocks and Def earlier this year, and it is the best choice l've ever made. My portfolio is rounding up to almost a million and I have realized that when a stock makes it to the news, chances are you're quite late to the party, the idea is to get in early on blue chips before it becomes public. There are lots of life changing opportunities in the market, and maximize it.

    • @KimberlyJones819
      @KimberlyJones819 8 дней назад

      What opportunities are there in the market, and how do I profit from it?

    • @styziemuthoni9978
      @styziemuthoni9978 8 дней назад

      You can make a lot of money from the market regardless of whether it strengthens or crashes. The key is to be well positioned.

    • @KimberlyJones819
      @KimberlyJones819 8 дней назад

      I would really like to know how this actually works.

    • @styziemuthoni9978
      @styziemuthoni9978 8 дней назад

      All you need is a good capital and the service of a professional broker, with those your investment will most certainly produce high yields.

  • @bobroberts2581
    @bobroberts2581 8 дней назад +1

    But not going to say anything about the decades of case law saying that boys can consent to adult women? Marka Bodine, Shane Seyer, Nathanial J, Colleen Hermesman, Andrea Serrano, the legal definition of rape being gendered.

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 5 дней назад

      Everything good because XX but not XY.

  • @jayromer3536
    @jayromer3536 8 дней назад

    2:44 forward. Excellent gen x mantra. Well said!

  • @ryanbuckley3314
    @ryanbuckley3314 8 дней назад +2

    An "is" can show us what "ought" not to be.

  • @davidbrims5825
    @davidbrims5825 6 дней назад

    Going back to Babylon….

  • @glennhopkins2643
    @glennhopkins2643 4 дня назад +1

    What ?

  • @dixonpinfold2582
    @dixonpinfold2582 7 дней назад

    Michael Shellenberger for president. I'm serious.
    He would need preparatory experience, so he should get some first.
    He's actually interested in entering politics. He ran for governor of California in the last election.

  • @47bricklayer
    @47bricklayer 5 дней назад

    I couldn't get but a few minutes in. Allowing? Who do you think you are? We can talk about right and wrong, but "allowing" is an arrogance I can't be a part of.

  • @gitteholmen8156
    @gitteholmen8156 8 дней назад

    Go back to Scandinavia, to Denmark to check. Our society is being more and more neoliberalized and is not at all The social democratic welfare State we used to.

  • @jfziemba
    @jfziemba 5 дней назад

    Yes, but there's a great deal of ruin in a nation

  • @catscan9
    @catscan9 8 дней назад +1

    I'm a 70 year old lesbian,so I felt ostracized and no place in society or religion. We need high technology manufacturing jobs.When I was young,I thought,someday, I'd have a robotic maid and a flying car. The infrastructure is collapsing everywhere, homeless people everywhere. Drugs truly are destroying lives.The government has abandoned this country,to make the wealthy,more wealthy. The people with power have no vision,and worse,no humility. Our founders were not religious,and didn't want a religious government. Our technology could have been so much more advanced,but for the greed of people with money and power. I agree, the left is too far left,and a lot is because of the Internet. The crazies have found each other, like nonbinary people can change their sex by wishing. Where's Qanon? Too many lies by media.

  • @DMAN590
    @DMAN590 11 часов назад

    Why, with the advent of AI and advanced automation is maintaining population seen as automatically good? If you ask me with less need for human labour a declining birthrate is not a bad thing and would result in higher standards of living.

  • @graphguy
    @graphguy 6 дней назад

    You are slightly mistaken. There is no divide among Christians

    • @jr2904
      @jr2904 4 дня назад

      There most certainly is lol. You forgot about Catholics/Orthodox schism and the reformation. You have fake Christians who twist the Bible into supporting things like gay marriage

    • @graphguy
      @graphguy 4 дня назад

      @@jr2904 Thanks! My point is they are not real Christians, but in name only.

  • @bobcat409
    @bobcat409 5 дней назад

    A subset of a longer interview

  • @dungeonsdumbbells
    @dungeonsdumbbells 8 дней назад +1

    Every generation wants distinction & to shock the last one it seems, I don"t want to think about being more shocking to the woke.

  • @chris-st6sm
    @chris-st6sm 3 дня назад

    gop talking points and tabloid rubbish
    a serious conversation on this subject would be centered on how complex systems work and the dangers of reverting to a ordered system. it would be a scientific discussion about complexity, complex systems and adaptation.

  • @xerxes2476
    @xerxes2476 8 дней назад +1

    How about you take care of your kids and don’t put them up with paying for school till rest of there life’s. Lol.

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 5 дней назад

      I agree. And if you can't afford it, don't have any kids.

  • @dragongirlguitar
    @dragongirlguitar 7 дней назад

    “If God is dead then everything is permitted” is from Dostoevsky in the Brothers Karamazov, not Nietzsche.
    Nietzsche had ethics which he based on “vitality.” No God involved, but he was still very to the right.

  • @bh_486
    @bh_486 8 дней назад

    There is a channel on this platform, run by a foundation.
    They play clips of talks, or often whole talks, given by a certain person (Utube will not allow me write his name).
    This person was born in India in 1895 and died in 1984.
    He often refers to himself with the first letter of his surname - - which is 'K'.
    He spent virtually all of his adult life traveling the western world giving his 'talks'.
    In the USA he would do it at Ojai - California - - there is a school there.
    In the UK he would do it at Brockwood Park - - there is a school there.
    Gstaad in Switzerland.
    Several different places in India - there are schools there.
    Australia.
    South America.
    France.
    Etc Etc.
    He actually talked to the United Nations.
    He was respected profoundly.
    The topics of his talks was essentially about the role of Thought and Thinking as the source of all humanity's problems.
    The nature of Love and Time.
    The nature of the ego.
    The nature of tribalism.
    The structure of consciousness.

    • @Belzediel
      @Belzediel 7 дней назад +1

      Born before he died? That is impressive...

    • @bh_486
      @bh_486 7 дней назад

      @@Belzediel
      Sorry - - born 1895.
      Edit.
      Easy mistake.
      What is more intriguing to me is why Utube will immediately disappear any comment I make when I write his name.
      Especially considering that the platform hosts videos released by the foundation.
      He is not some kind of dangerous quack.
      He is the ultimate anti-establishment, as he had no time for politicians or gurus etc.
      But simply stated that each individual had to think out these matters for themselves.
      You only have to Google - - Brockwood Park School - - and it can be known who I am writing about.

  • @marcusaurelius8605
    @marcusaurelius8605 8 дней назад

    #bestforkids

  • @nowistime8070
    @nowistime8070 8 дней назад

    Big Red may need some attention.

  • @snizzypoosexcellentspooner2468
    @snizzypoosexcellentspooner2468 8 дней назад +2

    I disagree with Shellenberger about liberalism. It doesn't follow that because a society legally permits a thing to be done that the thing will become a norm. Social engineering isn't included in the liberal toolkit. In fact, liberalism gives zero oughts. The ethics of liberalism gives society ought-nots. We need more than ethics to guide us, but liberalism never tried to fill that gap. It simply gives us the freedom to fill it how we choose.

    • @nnotny
      @nnotny 8 дней назад

      What would that "more than ethics" be?

    • @TheresaReichley
      @TheresaReichley 8 дней назад

      There’s a problem here though. That which is permissible will remain and that which you subsidize increases. This has actually happened with disability. When there was no money available to pay people with mental illness to not work, there were a lot fewer such disabilities. You coped and arguably got better because you had to. Nobody in 1910 was getting state benefits for being to anxious to work. So they worked. Now people go on state benefits for anxiety, don’t get better, and we have millions of NEETs playing video games at home even though they’re physically fine and not that mentally impaired.

    • @snizzypoosexcellentspooner2468
      @snizzypoosexcellentspooner2468 8 дней назад +1

      @@TheresaReichley Let me clarify. I'm speaking of liberalism as in the classical liberal philosophy. This have been added to by modern libertarianism but the root of this philosophy is the same. It's all about ethics pertaining to legal theory. Subsidizing people via the state is anti-liberal. This idea is born of progressivism.

    • @snizzypoosexcellentspooner2468
      @snizzypoosexcellentspooner2468 8 дней назад

      @@nnotny morality, spirituality, family

    • @nnotny
      @nnotny 8 дней назад

      @@snizzypoosexcellentspooner2468 Yes.

  • @FrankensteinDIYkayak
    @FrankensteinDIYkayak 8 дней назад

    go to some cafe or community gathering of in the backwoods of redoubt country and talk it up and let us know how it goes.

  • @jeffk464
    @jeffk464 8 дней назад +2

    It kind of feels like it.

  • @SuperSlik50
    @SuperSlik50 7 дней назад

    Ya think?

  • @DDCrp
    @DDCrp 8 дней назад +1

    Peace and love (and civilization)

  • @delaHackerRocker
    @delaHackerRocker 8 дней назад +2

    Fantastic.

  • @postscript5549
    @postscript5549 8 дней назад

    🌺

  • @robertsmit9872
    @robertsmit9872 3 дня назад

    The devil is running rampant in American society!