Thanks for sharing this with us, you obviously put a lot of work in this project and we're all learning, aren't we? Now , just a couple of things I've noticed that differ from Newman's motor : 1. His is running at much lower speed possibly lower amps consumption 2. He is insisting on voltage not current to run it 3. He is using a big fly wheel which will help turning at much lower amps (inertia) 4. We've all seen how transformers are built, the bigger the gap between the coils and the magnet , the bigger the losses. You may want to come up with a way to build the coils fairly close to the magnet to minimize the losses 5. You may want to use a proper generator (commercial) , maybe a modified car alternator ( rotor coils replaced by proper magnets) to get maximum possible output.You may notice an output increase of 100 % to 200% or more compared to the one you've built. Again, not criticism, just some ideas. Overall, great work and thanks again for sharing.
no i fail to get the picture, I'm sorry but its imposable to get overunity by converting electricity to magnetic flux (heat losses) then magnetic flux to kinetic energy via magnetic repulsion (waisted flux as it goes outside the coil as well as inside) and then store that for a short time (friction losses) and then hope to GAIN energy by running the conversions the other way round.. it just has me dumbfounded that anyone would think this would work!!!
Nice to see your motor-generator running. It looks like a nice flexible setup for performing all sorts of tests. Ultimately taking the testing to the next level is the key for all of the builders. Make real power-in power-out measurements, measure efficiencies, measure battery start/end output impedance, measure charging power, estimate and measure battery energy, do measurements on test vs. control setups, etc. I am not holding my breath for this to happen though.
Well just a quick theory! Ok here goes most generators/ alternators have a set speed in which they create the most power, over speed past that point does nothing more then the threshold! So a fast motor driving pulleys of different sizes increases the speed/decreases the speed! Drag is met with a smaller pulley to reduce the total output while larger puts less strain on usage but for same speed!
The obvious craftsmanship is inspirational. The non standard principles are thought provoking. I am curious as to why so much effort in the Newman/Bedini pulsing style hardware are DC devices and not AC. I would like to see an apparatus capable of running my Electric Kettle at 110Volts AC at 2.5 Amps
Put on four more hall effect sensors and time them to run the south poles of your motors and then you will have the efficiency to become over unity . You will need a flywheel coupled as well......keep tinkering. Nice job by the way.
Well most of what you say is correct. All the magnets are Neodymium. MASSIVE clearance on generator was to limit the cogging effects on load. If I were to insert iron, it would improve the 3-phase alternator performance but at a cost in the form of cogging effect and as you point out the Newman motors are inefficient, so definitely no cogging of any kind would be in order. The effect of MASSIVE clearance is the 3-phase alternator is not so efficient.
Bravo Daftman! BRAVO!! Smokin Hot design! I have a grin from ear to ear. Pay no attention to negative comments, it's pure jealousy! Your circuits out perform them all. If I replicate this design, I will drive my wife nuts! I dont think I could put it away. Wow it's fast...WOW!..LOL!! Once again, you have set the bar very high. You inspire me! Thank you for sharing your talent on U-Tube. Eddie
oh and if you had any idea of power generation you would know that cogging is the magnetic "stepping" effect that you get when you move the magnetic poles over the center of the coils, you can feel it is you turn a stepper motor (although in a alternator without iron you have no cogging effect so in this case it has no relevance as he has no iron in the alternator) a better design to use that has no cogging is an axial flux alternator
Very nice design. You are getting a lot of speed and plenty of torque. How about putting 2 more generators on it (one on each end). With 3 generators, would it have the power to run itself? Or would the extra generators cause the motors to draw more amps and end up with a net loss.
Hey Daftman Self sustaining motors or over-unity motors are great fun.I am watching your vids with lots of enthusiasm. It's quite possible to self run this type of motor. Please keep it up or we all might as well.Don't forget even if anyone claimed to have created a perpetual motion machine the government scientists wouldn't admit it, they can't there to scared to. please keep up the good work and forget all those single minded people. :-)
All right!! I want one of these things.. I am, however, a terrible scientist .. haha..I tried to make my own bedini circuit but apparently I am an idiot... anyhow... I appreciate your work.. and am always interested in your exploits.. keep up the good work!
@bloodreighn heat is not vibrations of atoms or molecules or both. heat is random fluctuation, constantainly changeing variables. low temperatures gives of lower frequencies like infrared and below. how these fluctuations change also change the electric resistance in a conductor. if both poles on a battery has same electric resistance there is no net force, there is no exess electrons to share.
can u tell what the watt in an watt out is its clear u have a profesional approch to ur work and its one of the good vids on u tube quality stuff i have had a go with hho and produced about half a liter in 45 odd seconds hope u can do better as i was very disshartend and havent done many more experiments after i tryed PWM and was less impressed i have sckmatics somewhere for that if ur intersted perhaps it would bring u better luck
the electrons are alredy in the wire. we just change the work it does to somthing that serve us. whats you observe in a volt amp meter is not work. its only the change in work.
I will post on above when I have something worth explaining in depth but up to now I havent so I havent. But may be I will consider doing so. Thanks for your comments and sorry for accidentally removing it.
Id like to just point out one thing to everyone before you all send anymore emails, Joseph Newman motors run on voltage only not amps/currant so the 3 phase generator was built to test that theory. So please remember before commenting about the output currant of the generator. As you see it thats how I intended it to be except the voltage comes out at 30 volt in stead of 24 max but if Joseph Newman is correct then thats good not bad has more volts means more revs.
i know i cant do better because there is NO SUCH THING as "over-unity" it has never been shown to exists in any real experiments that can be reproduced by anyone. the Newman motor has been denied patents many times because it has been tested and DOESN'T WORK
The man is a great mind. To think of this is to walk a new path. Men have been killed for less. Good luck and god speed bro. When you get this right I want the chance to buy the first one. What are the applications? What is the emp cap out put. What is the input requirements and how can the average joe schmoe like me help to improve this?
Daftman please try this: Step 1: Power up the center motor with 24volts or more. Step2 : Use all 4 newman motors as generators,wire them together in series to charge capacitor Step3 : Once center motor is up to speed switch off the power supply and switch on the now charged capacitor. Step4 : Enjoy self running loop
Very good working concept for magnetic drive to create a workable force, have you tried with a generator that produces more amps, rather than volts, volts are good, but they make power inverters to 120 & 240 V off a 12V system, try a 12V generator that produces the requires 3amps to run the thing and set it in motion, apply recirculated power, then cut the input and see if she'll play ball... not an electrical engineer by any means and not trying to knock your work i think it is an great concept
This alternator will give almost 50 watts when a full load is applied and spun up with an efficient motor. I did test it before connecting it up to the Newman motors and I have built about 40. So please no more comments on the inefficiency of the alternator thats probably the only thing that is correct. Its more than likely to be my electronics that need a good tweak I think I should have used mosfets.
Ok, what did I miss. The input is about 12.5 volts and 3.2 amps which is 40 watts. the output is about 30 volts and .1 amp which is 3 watts Its using over ten times the amount of power its putting out, what a waste!!!!
as far as i can see, all you are doing is converting flow (Amps) into Pressure (volts), it will never run itself unless you either bring the current requirement via the motors down, or you manage to increase the current output , unfortunately, as you have just proven again, you didnt create "over-unity" you just changed/transferred energy to a different type
Very good working concept for magnetic drive to create a workable force, have you tried with a generator that produces more amps, rather than volts, volts are good, but they make power inverters to 120 & 240 V off a 12V system, try a 12V generator that produces the requires 3amps to run the thing and set it in motion, apply recirculated power, then cut the input and see if she'll play ball... not an electrical engineer by any means and not trying to knock your work i think it is n great concept
@bloodreighn your problem is that you dont understand that A=i x r to. induction is only the change in potentials difference in electric resistance. when you measure volt on an amp load in paralell you measure the remaining change in differential and not eny voltage in the load. you dont find eny resistance you only measure differentials between many potentials. volt is a small current. if you measure volt across a 600 watts power source in 60000000v and 0.01ma you get very little volts.
You have 4 newton motor in the single axle... Why not connect two of the same opposing phase newton to output eliminate the alternator and see the voltage vs current... Because your alternator appears to over load with voltage that could conver to current respectively... Nice project and very clean work!!!! Thumbs up!
This is very odd. Why would we want to use more power to create less? Im all for the concept of free energy, but current physics prohibit it. it takes energy to make energy. Move next to a waterfall and u will have free energy with a wheel. xD
I am currently using your diagram for a newman motor bedini circuit with reed switch. The question is what would I modify to run the newman on strictly the bedini circuit and leave out the reed switch? Any info would be greatly appreciated! THANKS .... scooterscottii
Just seen your video of the 4 pot Newman motor with generator capabilities, its a pity you have moved on to HHO because this was the nicest running newman motor I have seen and believe me I have seen a lot since I got interested in the electric generation game. why do people always want to pull a craftsman down when he is developing a new idea.? great Video, very informative, Thank you.
The output of the alternator has be configured star for voltage has Jefferson Newman states his motors run on voltage and not currant, so I went for voltage not currant. I can get more currant but with less voltage by reconfiguring the alternators output to delta. But thats not what I was after,so to sum up if Jefferson Newman was correct in that is motors runs on voltage and not currant,
the output maH is small because you read the power current drive by the lamps. do you repeat the test with a resistor 1ohm or direct in short cut and read the max. power ouput ok ?. Of course if you drive the back emf at the output you win few mah add to the final poewr output. miguel from Uruguay
by connecting my alternators output to one of the 4 Newman motors it would pickup speed and more speed more voltage and so on. Has you can see thats not the case. And the next thing I will be doing is replacing all the electronics that is what is burning up the currant. Maybe Jefferson Newman is still correct about his motors and my control circuitry is at fault.
@bloodreighn volt isn´t pressure. voltage measure change in electric resistance. amps is just a larger volt load. you can have a light bulb powered at zero volts and 250 ma 60 watts. there is no such thing as volt or amps its just a way to describe different relationships of change in electric resistance. how much how fast or slow. when you power a load there is no volt in it there is only amps. the slower the change the higher the amps the faster the change the lesser the amps. no volts.
42W in and 6.6W out? your generator has MASSIVE clearances and thats extremely inefficient.. if you insert some iron to help hold the flux round the coils you will improve your output.. but i fail so see how 4 very inefficient electric motors running a very inefficient alternator will achieve much...you would get more "back" emf from a 3 phase motor with rare earth magnets inserted in the rotor but again your just waisting time there too
The diagram is on the TEEP form, the link is on this page of youtube, please look up on the right click on (more info) to see the link. You will find the diagram in Technical help and Questions. Look for (TheDaftMans downloadable and printable diagram.) Please let me know if you need anymore help.
I admire your fine engineering work and attention to detail. A beautiful project. I like your use of hall effect sensors. Of course you're not going to be able to get the generator to run the motor/s in a closed loop. Perpetual energy / over unity machines are not possible due to the laws of physics that are tried and tested. We live with their limitations. The Newman motor does not, nor has it ever run on less energy than it produces. There will never be a useful electric motor that can run near 100% efficiency let alone go over 100%. The same goes for a generator. You will always put more hp into a generator than you will be able to produce in output wattage. Then you have to take into account all the other losses in the system beside the losses in the magnetic fields, like losses in wire resistance, the semiconductors you're using to switch the coils have their own losses, and then the mechanical friction losses. For those of you interested in the Newman saga: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newman%27s_energy_machine
Grant G It would be wonderful if you were right about the laws of physics, that they are a myth invented by short sighted men. How great it would be if they were ever proven wrong. I for one am tired of paying for energy. I'm tired of paying for system losses. I'm tired of entropy. I'm tired of the effects of aging, and how gravity causes us to sag as we get older :-)
Grant G I think you might be confusing human imposed laws with the constraints and limitations of the physical world which we also call laws. They are not laws in the same sense of how we use the word law. You can bend and break man made laws. You can't break the laws of physics. If you could, those laws would not be the law, and a new law would have to be drawn up to account for the observed change. Richard Feynman compared learning about the nature of the physical universe with watching a Chess game without knowing the rules. As we observe the game in progress we begin to model the rules of the game, when something unexpected happens then we must either throw out some previous rule, or add some contingency to the rule. We're forever learning, but at this moment in time certain rules of physics are well in place and cannot be 'bent'. But this is moot. If anyone feels an existing rule of physics can be bent or broken it's up to them to prove it. The null hypothesis is that the proposed change to the existing understanding is untrue. It's incumbent on the one proposing an alternate hypothesis to prove their case in order to reject the null. It's that simple. In science, you're wrong until proven right. It's the wise course.
The law is not for man to stipulate firstly as for being confused or confusing no I am not as I asked have you viewed the videos? I posted if not do your homework as for the rest of your rant you are like us all trying to make sense of what is and what is placed upon us. Lenzes law can be bent anything can be bent with the correct lever and the correct element the masters of old the true ones(men of old renowned) realized this as for the laws of thermodynamics it also can be bent. As for proof I have showed enough do your own research and stay open minded. Who am I to be wrong and who are you to be right? And who is man to know better ? feels like your trying to put me in a room and judge me who should wear the wig? I do not need big words I am a simple man with little intelligence. and less ego. As for chess I would study playing cards first not chess maybe a book called nuggets from Solomon mine chess is like a craft of duality opposition and... well do your own research I am simply saying there is so much more and we as a race choose not to be more. So wallow in your mud and the mud of others. remember this, if you challenge me you challenge yourself. I can help or hinder just as you can, do not state simple things that you and others cannot comprehend because others tell you so. Let people learn from each other never try and make out as though science is an absolute as we still have so little of an understanding towards each other little own our world that we destroy!
Remember this is an experiment not any definitive. So again Joseph Newman states is motor runs on voltage only not amps/currant so its the motors or the electronics thats incorrect not the alternator. Dam 500-word count.
For me right from the start of all my experimenting is for a self-running unit, so if Im not getting more power out than I putting in then unit is a complete failure for me. Im not in to charging batteries. But yes test results would be nice.
Yours is the only negative comment. This man is not wasting his time. He is an inspiration. Your video's dont compare. If you think you can do better, prove it.
Hall effects (they switch with a magnetic field) that just switch transistors on and off like a reed switch but no moving parts, the circuit is one of my own designs but I have now redesigned it so will post soon.
and yet no one is using them to power there house or lab.. in fact i would like to see one power a single LED for more than a few minutes (giving time for the power to run out), if overunity exists then it would change the laws of conservation of energy and make allot of the rules of physics wrong, you cant get power from nothing and i REAL fail how you can get it from an inefficient design alternator.. just using the laws of electro-magnetics and generation you know that it cant happen
So if the motor spins at 10,000 rpms and the size of magnets are measured at 15,000 and so u use more to create less! If motor spins at 5000rpm and a pulley can spin up the shaft to 15000! That's less energy to draw and more output! Gas powered gen speed up as the draw increases, again u increase the speed back up to 10k it's spinning the magnets at 20k rpm that may help, hell what do I know?
Sorry it seems I have accidentally removed Drevtoobes comment. I intended to hit the reply tab but must of hit the remove tab instead. This was the comment left by Drevtoobe.
It's not very clear exactly what is being shown here. The camera is weaving all over the place and I didn't see a clear overall picture of the setup. You mentioned that there is a circuit diagram shown elsewhere; no reason why a couple of seconds of this video couldn't have shown it. What exactly is it that you are demonstrating? A clear view of the meters on the bench power supply that I can see lurking in the background isn't shown while things are running either.
He's showing, reluctantly that it doesn't work as hoped. You can also hear the frustration in his voice. Everyone who catches the 'perpetual motion/energy' bug goes through this sort of thing. We have to try one more thing and one more thing etc., and maybe magnetic levitation (which requires power by the way). Success is just around the corner in the mind of the perpenerg addict. This is a beautifully built project, to be admired, but no amount of tinkering, or trying alternative methods will make it work. A person working on these things does learn things, so there is benefit, but the person needs to know when it's time to let go before descending into madness as many of the free energy people have done sadly. I would also recommend taking a course, or reading some books on physics. It will answer a lot of questions. Here's the wiki on the inventor of the motor: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newman%27s_energy_machine
Hi. Really nice work. The magnet responds to voltage, not power. It is a field effect. Joe uses dead batteries, very small current. Cutting the circuit before the current completes the loop is the first part of making energy from no power. V x I = P I=0 P=0. The back EMF is a troubled child. It will build until the coil shorts if you don't plan for it. The question is: How long is your motor coil? Using the speed of light, how short is your voltage pulse? Is your pulse short enough? I think not. Is the short enough pulse long enough to turn the magnet? Joe's flywheel helps out. But a pulsed DC power supply with current limiting may do the trick. Keep working it. Kudos.
+BMan18 Energy from no power ? really explain this illusion please and use as many letters and numerical references, Mistake number one is Daftman is not building a newman generator he is using a newman motor. Number 2 is he is using solid state which could work although there is no solid state short just a collapse in the field. Mabye if daftman had the correct approach and with as much help form others willing to provide this help then we all could benefit.(probably why he built a forum TEEP) Please refrain from simple equations written by learned men stating laws especially when Man is imperfect and only trying to comprehend which already exists. BEMF does not like to run on its own circuit the bedini circuits show this unless one makes a sj looper. You make a good reference to the pulse and collapse granted although remember to share your critic or you will be humbled from others much more learned than onself. BTW Bedini did not make the bedini circuit he just benefited from it as referenced by Gerad Morin Vids. I could share much of what I have learnt although put simply people don't deserve it. Have you built anything or are you just referencing others?
+Grant G "Please refrain from simple equations written by learned men..." "Energy from no power? Really explain this illusion please and use as many letters and numerical references," You put me in a box here. Nothing I, a learned man who is writing will satisfy you. It's this kind of selective denial that has kept the world in the dark about the nature of the Universe and why energy is freely available. But still, in the confused and disrespected writings of mankind there are slivers of truth that can be distilled. You may have noted that my comment of energy from powerless sources was a bit tongue in cheek. The definition of power in the limited EE world is voltage times current, each one alone is considered powerless. But this is justified in one way by defining current as the movement of electrons, which are the voltage sources (point charges). Consider that no one any longer speaks authentically of electrons orbiting atoms, they do not exist within atoms, they only (next entry)
+BMan18 exist as electrons when electrons are forced out of the stable dual pair of charge or voltage fields energies. You can check Wikipedia for the speed of electricity in conductors. It is 4 orders of magnitude faster than the imagined speed of electrons traveling in that same conductor. The electricity in a single conductor being 75% the speed of light and the electrons being mm/sec. The idea of electrons traveling as moving charges is simply bogus. Of course EEs still define current direction as the reverse movement of the negative potential energy of the electron orbitals. All of this kind of material projection of fields and waves, non-material phenomenon is misleading and criminal in ultimate result. Current could be considered the movement of charges, but that is only because moving charges create magnetic fields. Magnetic fields is the actual "substance" of current. This brings us back to the topic: no power creating energy... Reference JC Maxwell and the man he (more)
+BMan18 based his equations on: Faraday. We're talking over 100 years ago and a lot of what they believed has been dropped or censured so who knows the full truth today? From this foundation, Heaviside simplified things so the engineers could work with the technology that Tesla gave them, and then abandoned for good reason. Steinmetz put together some more honest math, but it is beyond most mortals in understanding. Today Eric P. Dollard has the best descriptions, but even he has colored his descriptions with sideways slams at the corruption of the truth by educational institutions. Note all these gentlemen believed there had to be an Ether, but that relies on both superfine particles similar to QED theory and "counter space" similar to parallel dimensions. What we have in front of us is an electric Universe, saturated with voltage and magnetic fields. It could be that simple, the fields themselves creating the space we enjoy. Regardless, the fact is as Maxwell famously reported:(more)
+BMan18 Moving voltage field sources create magnetic fields circulating them. Changing moving voltage fields induce magnetic fields in strength proportional to the rate of change of the field movement (not the voltage itself, although Faraday and Lorenz insisted this was so. Likewise, a moving Magnetic field will induce a Voltage field in proportion to it's rate of change, not it's field strength. The totality of one field (not power by EE standards) inducing the other is both a rate of change related force but also a direction pointed phenomenon. Maxwell invented Quaterion Mathematics, Heaviside and Lorentz simplified it and suggested you use your fingers to point the way. Dollard is the only one today that actually speaks of the multiple fields that exist in a transformer with direction (that I've found). But there's more, each induced field will induce it's own, creating a four field induction for any one qualifying changing field. This is inertia expressed in field induction(more)
@TechnologyGod cooling a 1:1 transformer to 0K-ish tends to destroy it in itself; that said, if they're shorted...what would oscillate, then? Just wait 'til this guy builds a graphene space elevator (also in the washroom) out of persistence and cast off pencils. Maybe start out with a memristor PLL.
HomeDistiller please tone down you replies some members are just starting out with all this. But you explanation is good but now need for the dig. (Oh and if you had any idea of power generation you would know that cogging is) we all had to start somewhere even you. Again thanks for the explanation and your time in replying.
The idea of this unit was not my idea, it was one of my youtube buddies, and if he reads this he will tell you it wasnt my idea but his, A Bill. Now it seems like Im to be challenged all Im going to say is I will only give full details on anything that works has intended but like most I will not holed my breath. Now I will not respond to any more challengers like this unless I publish any theory full stop so with that please dont waste your time asking or commenting like any of the above.
So sorry for my none conforming build if I was to stick to convention this kind of system will never work. Thank you all for youre input its all useful. Dam 500 word count.
I wish I hadnt bothered with some of the years of classrooms because in the last 12 months a lot of what was drummed in now looks like brain washing now.
@coldarc What a Daft Statement, go re-visit Ohms Law v=i X r , without voltage it is impossible to submit ANY current or find ANY resistance, and it IS pressure, you can have ALL the voltage/pressure in the world with the least amount of current/Flow but you can not have current with NO pressure/Voltage!
Like I say you all win I will never make a perpetual motion machine so I will stop now and give up then. A lot of you keep emailing me (not posting) saying they want me to give up so I will. I dont want to get in to defending things all the time so Im not going to. After all in not getting anywhere with it am i.
newman has been preaching his xonsept since 1984 and was offered financial backing if he would turn his machine over for testing he refused because it does not work
Thanks for sharing this with us, you obviously put a lot of work in this project and we're all learning, aren't we? Now , just a couple of things I've noticed that differ from Newman's motor :
1. His is running at much lower speed possibly lower amps consumption
2. He is insisting on voltage not current to run it
3. He is using a big fly wheel which will help turning at much lower amps (inertia)
4. We've all seen how transformers are built, the bigger the gap between the coils and the magnet , the bigger the losses. You may want to come up with a way to build the coils fairly close to the magnet to minimize the losses
5. You may want to use a proper generator (commercial) , maybe a modified car alternator ( rotor coils replaced by proper magnets) to get maximum possible output.You may notice an output increase of 100 % to 200% or more compared to the one you've built.
Again, not criticism, just some ideas. Overall, great work and thanks again for sharing.
Don't forget the biggest difference, Newman's a fraud
no i fail to get the picture, I'm sorry but its imposable to get overunity by converting electricity to magnetic flux (heat losses) then magnetic flux to kinetic energy via magnetic repulsion (waisted flux as it goes outside the coil as well as inside) and then store that for a short time (friction losses) and then hope to GAIN energy by running the conversions the other way round.. it just has me dumbfounded that anyone would think this would work!!!
Nice to see your motor-generator running. It looks like a nice flexible setup for performing all sorts of tests. Ultimately taking the testing to the next level is the key for all of the builders. Make real power-in power-out measurements, measure efficiencies, measure battery start/end output impedance, measure charging power, estimate and measure battery energy, do measurements on test vs. control setups, etc. I am not holding my breath for this to happen though.
Well just a quick theory! Ok here goes most generators/ alternators have a set speed in which they create the most power, over speed past that point does nothing more then the threshold! So a fast motor driving pulleys of different sizes increases the speed/decreases the speed! Drag is met with a smaller pulley to reduce the total output while larger puts less strain on usage but for same speed!
The obvious craftsmanship is inspirational. The non standard principles are thought provoking. I am curious as to why so much effort in the Newman/Bedini pulsing style hardware are DC devices and not AC. I would like to see an apparatus capable of running my Electric Kettle at 110Volts AC at 2.5 Amps
Put on four more hall effect sensors and time them to run the south poles of your motors and then you will have the efficiency to become over unity . You will need a flywheel coupled as well......keep tinkering. Nice job by the way.
Well most of what you say is correct. All the magnets are Neodymium. MASSIVE clearance on generator was to limit the cogging effects on load. If I were to insert iron, it would improve the 3-phase alternator performance but at a cost in the form of cogging effect and as you point out the Newman motors are inefficient, so definitely no cogging of any kind would be in order. The effect of MASSIVE clearance is the 3-phase alternator is not so efficient.
Bravo Daftman!
BRAVO!!
Smokin Hot design!
I have a grin from ear to ear.
Pay no attention to negative comments, it's pure jealousy!
Your circuits out perform them all.
If I replicate this design, I will drive my wife nuts!
I dont think I could put it away.
Wow it's fast...WOW!..LOL!!
Once again, you have set the bar very high.
You inspire me!
Thank you for sharing your talent on U-Tube.
Eddie
oh and if you had any idea of power generation you would know that cogging is the magnetic "stepping" effect that you get when you move the magnetic poles over the center of the coils, you can feel it is you turn a stepper motor (although in a alternator without iron you have no cogging effect so in this case it has no relevance as he has no iron in the alternator) a better design to use that has no cogging is an axial flux alternator
You do a very good job at soldering and managing all the cables, it looks very neat ! For the newman motor, I have little believe it works.
Smokin hot, love it.
Very nice design. You are getting a lot of speed and plenty of torque. How about putting 2 more generators on it (one on each end). With 3 generators, would it have the power to run itself? Or would the extra generators cause the motors to draw more amps and end up with a net loss.
Very nice workmanship. I enjoyed the video.
Great motor but I thought the whole concept of this was to run the Newman on high voltage (stepped up) and very low current ?
Around 40 watts in and around 15 watts out. Around 37% efficiency.
Hey Daftman
Self sustaining motors or over-unity motors are great fun.I am watching your vids with lots of enthusiasm.
It's quite possible to self run this type of motor.
Please keep it up or we all might as well.Don't forget even if anyone claimed to have created a perpetual motion machine the government scientists wouldn't admit it, they can't there to scared to.
please keep up the good work and forget all those single minded people.
:-)
It's just a simple electric motor that's been made to look like something more.
You can't get something for nothing. There is no such thing as a "perpetual motor."
All right!! I want one of these things.. I am, however, a terrible scientist .. haha..I tried to make my own bedini circuit but apparently I am an idiot... anyhow... I appreciate your work.. and am always interested in your exploits.. keep up the good work!
The new setup looks great! You're inspiring me out of more sleep! Thanks.
@bloodreighn heat is not vibrations of atoms or molecules or both. heat is random fluctuation, constantainly changeing variables. low temperatures gives of lower frequencies like infrared and below. how these fluctuations change also change the electric resistance in a conductor. if both poles on a battery has same electric resistance there is no net force, there is no exess electrons to share.
can u tell what the watt in an watt out is
its clear u have a profesional approch to ur work and its one of the good vids on u tube quality stuff i have had a go with hho and produced about half a liter in 45 odd seconds hope u can do better as i was very disshartend and havent done many more experiments after i tryed PWM and was less impressed i have sckmatics somewhere for that if ur intersted perhaps it would bring u better luck
the electrons are alredy in the wire. we just change the work it does to somthing that serve us. whats you observe in a volt amp meter is not work. its only the change in work.
I will post on above when I have something worth explaining in depth but up to now I havent so I havent.
But may be I will consider doing so. Thanks for your comments and sorry for accidentally removing it.
Id like to just point out one thing to everyone before you all send anymore emails, Joseph Newman motors run on voltage only not amps/currant so the 3 phase generator was built to test that theory. So please remember before commenting about the output currant of the generator. As you see it thats how I intended it to be except the voltage comes out at 30 volt in stead of 24 max but if Joseph Newman is correct then thats good not bad has more volts means more revs.
i know i cant do better because there is NO SUCH THING as "over-unity" it has never been shown to exists in any real experiments that can be reproduced by anyone. the Newman motor has been denied patents many times because it has been tested and DOESN'T WORK
The man is a great mind. To think of this is to walk a new path. Men have been killed for less. Good luck and god speed bro. When you get this right I want the chance to buy the first one. What are the applications? What is the emp cap out put. What is the input requirements and how can the average joe schmoe like me help to improve this?
Daftman please try this:
Step 1: Power up the center motor with 24volts or more.
Step2 : Use all 4 newman motors as generators,wire them together in series to charge capacitor
Step3 : Once center motor is up to speed switch off the power supply and switch on the now charged capacitor.
Step4 : Enjoy self running loop
A centrifugally integrated flywheel (weights are spring-loaded to throw out as the RPMs increase) might be a good add, too.
Yeah! You are back! I was waiting to see this motor in action! So good!
great stuff mate, cheers for sticking it up here.
Sorry, 8K meters of wire, not klicks...
Very good working concept for magnetic drive to create a workable force, have you tried with a generator that produces more amps, rather than volts, volts are good, but they make power inverters to 120 & 240 V off a 12V system, try a 12V generator that produces the requires 3amps to run the thing and set it in motion, apply recirculated power, then cut the input and see if she'll play ball... not an electrical engineer by any means and not trying to knock your work i think it is an great concept
This alternator will give almost 50 watts when a full load is applied and spun up with an efficient motor. I did test it before connecting it up to the Newman motors and I have built about 40. So please no more comments on the inefficiency of the alternator thats probably the only thing that is correct. Its more than likely to be my electronics that need a good tweak I think I should have used mosfets.
Ok, what did I miss.
The input is about 12.5 volts and 3.2 amps which is 40 watts.
the output is about 30 volts and .1 amp which is 3 watts
Its using over ten times the amount of power its putting out, what a waste!!!!
as far as i can see, all you are doing is converting flow (Amps) into Pressure (volts), it will never run itself unless you either bring the current requirement via the motors down, or you manage to increase the current output , unfortunately, as you have just proven again, you didnt create "over-unity" you just changed/transferred energy to a different type
With the different pots so close to each other, don't their fields interfere with one another?
Very good working concept for magnetic drive to create a workable force, have you tried with a generator that produces more amps, rather than volts, volts are good, but they make power inverters to 120 & 240 V off a 12V system, try a 12V generator that produces the requires 3amps to run the thing and set it in motion, apply recirculated power, then cut the input and see if she'll play ball... not an electrical engineer by any means and not trying to knock your work i think it is n great concept
@bloodreighn your problem is that you dont understand that A=i x r to. induction is only the change in potentials difference in electric resistance. when you measure volt on an amp load in paralell you measure the remaining change in differential and not eny voltage in the load. you dont find eny resistance you only measure differentials between many potentials. volt is a small current. if you measure volt across a 600 watts power source in 60000000v and 0.01ma you get very little volts.
cool daftman,, I have been waiting a long time to see this sucker running. good job!
You have 4 newton motor in the single axle... Why not connect two of the same opposing phase newton to output eliminate the alternator and see the voltage vs current... Because your alternator appears to over load with voltage that could conver to current respectively... Nice project and very clean work!!!! Thumbs up!
This is very odd. Why would we want to use more power to create less? Im all for the concept of free energy, but current physics prohibit it. it takes energy to make energy. Move next to a waterfall and u will have free energy with a wheel. xD
man you are a genious.keep up the good work.
It's gonna take someone like you to solve
the problem.
I am currently using your diagram for a newman motor bedini circuit with reed switch. The question is what would I modify to run the newman on strictly the bedini circuit and leave out the reed switch? Any info would be greatly appreciated! THANKS .... scooterscottii
Would using a battery make more of a difference than a capacitor ???
Hey Daftman,
I dont understand the term Cogging.
Can you explain what that is?
Please.
Eddie
Just seen your video of the 4 pot Newman motor with generator capabilities, its a pity you have moved on to HHO because this was the nicest running newman motor I have seen and believe me I have seen a lot since I got interested in the electric generation game.
why do people always want to pull a craftsman down when he is developing a new idea.?
great Video, very informative, Thank you.
what if for the input you used solar power then it could be self powering so it could be infinet
It s like the voltmeter cannot handle the voltage, you should try placing a voltage devider. It runs awesome congrats !
The output of the alternator has be configured star for voltage has Jefferson Newman states his motors run on voltage and not currant, so I went for voltage not currant. I can get more currant but with less voltage by reconfiguring the alternators output to delta. But thats not what I was after,so to sum up if Jefferson Newman was correct in that is motors runs on voltage and not currant,
Firstname Lastname looks like she has found a real alternative
This thing looks like a little version of what they used in Black Mesa, so be careful ;)
the output maH is small because you read the power current drive by the lamps. do you repeat the test with a resistor 1ohm or direct in short cut and read the max. power ouput ok ?. Of course if you drive the back emf at the output you win few mah add to the final poewr output. miguel from Uruguay
by connecting my alternators output to one of the 4 Newman motors it would pickup speed and more speed more voltage and so on. Has you can see thats not the case. And the next thing I will be doing is replacing all the electronics that is what is burning up the currant. Maybe Jefferson Newman is still correct about his motors and my control circuitry is at fault.
Do you have a short to collapse the fields in the in between your firings?
It s like the voltmeter cannot handle the voltage, you should try placing a voltage devider.
very very impressive build! and i really appreciate the visible Amp/Volt meters in the front showing what's happening! hurray to you!
@bloodreighn volt isn´t pressure. voltage measure change in electric resistance. amps is just a larger volt load. you can have a light bulb powered at zero volts and 250 ma 60 watts. there is no such thing as volt or amps its just a way to describe different relationships of change in electric resistance. how much how fast or slow. when you power a load there is no volt in it there is only amps. the slower the change the higher the amps the faster the change the lesser the amps. no volts.
first law of science: you can't create energy out of nothing
And yet.. once upon a time nothing in the space went kaboom
42W in and 6.6W out? your generator has MASSIVE clearances and thats extremely inefficient.. if you insert some iron to help hold the flux round the coils you will improve your output.. but i fail so see how 4 very inefficient electric motors running a very inefficient alternator will achieve much...you would get more "back" emf from a 3 phase motor with rare earth magnets inserted in the rotor but again your just waisting time there too
id like to see some theroy or math todo with this machine to show that you are as good as you seem to think you are..
The diagram is on the TEEP form, the link is on this page of youtube, please look up on the right click on (more info) to see the link.
You will find the diagram in Technical help and Questions.
Look for (TheDaftMans downloadable and printable diagram.)
Please let me know if you need anymore help.
Ok let's just say you are correct and lets leave it there.
I admire your fine engineering work and attention to detail. A beautiful project. I like your use of hall effect sensors.
Of course you're not going to be able to get the generator to run the motor/s in a closed loop. Perpetual energy / over unity machines are not possible due to the laws of physics that are tried and tested. We live with their limitations. The Newman motor does not, nor has it ever run on less energy than it produces. There will never be a useful electric motor that can run near 100% efficiency let alone go over 100%. The same goes for a generator. You will always put more hp into a generator than you will be able to produce in output wattage. Then you have to take into account all the other losses in the system beside the losses in the magnetic fields, like losses in wire resistance, the semiconductors you're using to switch the coils have their own losses, and then the mechanical friction losses. For those of you interested in the Newman saga: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newman%27s_energy_machine
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Thank you, I'll take a look.
Grant G
It would be wonderful if you were right about the laws of physics, that they are a myth invented by short sighted men. How great it would be if they were ever proven wrong. I for one am tired of paying for energy. I'm tired of paying for system losses. I'm tired of entropy. I'm tired of the effects of aging, and how gravity causes us to sag as we get older :-)
There are two things that grow as we age and our minds are not one of those Laws can be bent, did you look at the videos?
Grant G
I think you might be confusing human imposed laws with the constraints and limitations of the physical world which we also call laws. They are not laws in the same sense of how we use the word law. You can bend and break man made laws. You can't break the laws of physics. If you could, those laws would not be the law, and a new law would have to be drawn up to account for the observed change. Richard Feynman compared learning about the nature of the physical universe with watching a Chess game without knowing the rules. As we observe the game in progress we begin to model the rules of the game, when something unexpected happens then we must either throw out some previous rule, or add some contingency to the rule. We're forever learning, but at this moment in time certain rules of physics are well in place and cannot be 'bent'. But this is moot. If anyone feels an existing rule of physics can be bent or broken it's up to them to prove it. The null hypothesis is that the proposed change to the existing understanding is untrue. It's incumbent on the one proposing an alternate hypothesis to prove their case in order to reject the null. It's that simple. In science, you're wrong until proven right. It's the wise course.
The law is not for man to stipulate firstly as for being confused or confusing no I am not as I asked have you viewed the videos? I posted if not do your homework as for the rest of your rant you are like us all trying to make sense of what is and what is placed upon us.
Lenzes law can be bent anything can be bent with the correct lever and the correct element the masters of old the true ones(men of old renowned) realized this as for the laws of thermodynamics it also can be bent. As for proof I have showed enough do your own research and stay open minded.
Who am I to be wrong and who are you to be right?
And who is man to know better ?
feels like your trying to put me in a room and judge me who should wear the wig?
I do not need big words I am a simple man with little intelligence. and less ego.
As for chess I would study playing cards first not chess maybe a book called nuggets from Solomon mine chess is like a craft of duality opposition and... well do your own research I am simply saying there is so much more and we as a race choose not to be more.
So wallow in your mud and the mud of others.
remember this, if you challenge me you challenge yourself.
I can help or hinder just as you can, do not state simple things that you and others cannot comprehend because others tell you so.
Let people learn from each other never try and make out as though science is an absolute as we still have so little of an understanding towards each other little own our world that we destroy!
Remember this is an experiment not any definitive.
So again Joseph Newman states is motor runs on voltage only not amps/currant so its the motors or the electronics thats incorrect not the alternator.
Dam 500-word count.
For me right from the start of all my experimenting is for a self-running unit, so if Im not getting more power out than I putting in then unit is a complete failure for me. Im not in to charging batteries. But yes test results would be nice.
Yours is the only negative comment.
This man is not wasting his time.
He is an inspiration.
Your video's dont compare.
If you think you can do better, prove it.
Hall effects (they switch with a magnetic field) that just switch transistors on and off like a reed switch but no moving parts, the circuit is one of my own designs but I have now redesigned it so will post soon.
and yet no one is using them to power there house or lab.. in fact i would like to see one power a single LED for more than a few minutes (giving time for the power to run out), if overunity exists then it would change the laws of conservation of energy and make allot of the rules of physics wrong, you cant get power from nothing and i REAL fail how you can get it from an inefficient design alternator.. just using the laws of electro-magnetics and generation you know that it cant happen
So if the motor spins at 10,000 rpms and the size of magnets are measured at 15,000 and so u use more to create less! If motor spins at 5000rpm and a pulley can spin up the shaft to 15000! That's less energy to draw and more output! Gas powered gen speed up as the draw increases, again u increase the speed back up to 10k it's spinning the magnets at 20k rpm that may help, hell what do I know?
@Lumin3k No, i had it right.... 30 volts multiplied by .1 amp is 3 watts. (note the period before the 1)
sounds like a v8 XD
Use this motor to drive a conventional automotive alternator for more amps output.
I'm sure you'll reach the overunity. keep up the good job
sounds like a lycoming
you guys are just fucking cruel leave the guy alone! at least he is using his mind and inspiring others to do so aswell
I think is great but why is it so loud. Sound's like a p51 engine ramming for take off.
What's the torque of this machine in ft-lbs?
Sorry it seems I have accidentally removed Drevtoobes comment. I intended to hit the reply tab but must of hit the remove tab instead. This was the comment left by Drevtoobe.
it sounds sinister
can you make the whole thing run on a magnetic baring so it floats so there is no drag/
It's not very clear exactly what is being shown here. The camera is weaving all over the place and I didn't see a clear overall picture of the setup. You mentioned that there is a circuit diagram shown elsewhere; no reason why a couple of seconds of this video couldn't have shown it. What exactly is it that you are demonstrating? A clear view of the meters on the bench power supply that I can see lurking in the background isn't shown while things are running either.
He's showing, reluctantly that it doesn't work as hoped. You can also hear the frustration in his voice. Everyone who catches the 'perpetual motion/energy' bug goes through this sort of thing. We have to try one more thing and one more thing etc., and maybe magnetic levitation (which requires power by the way). Success is just around the corner in the mind of the perpenerg addict. This is a beautifully built project, to be admired, but no amount of tinkering, or trying alternative methods will make it work. A person working on these things does learn things, so there is benefit, but the person needs to know when it's time to let go before descending into madness as many of the free energy people have done sadly. I would also recommend taking a course, or reading some books on physics. It will answer a lot of questions. Here's the wiki on the inventor of the motor: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newman%27s_energy_machine
molto bello ..complimenti!!===)) from italy
How much energy is stored in the compensatory
How much speed does it achieve?
Hi. Really nice work. The magnet responds to voltage, not power. It is a field effect. Joe uses dead batteries, very small current. Cutting the circuit before the current completes the loop is the first part of making energy from no power. V x I = P I=0 P=0.
The back EMF is a troubled child. It will build until the coil shorts if you don't plan for it.
The question is: How long is your motor coil? Using the speed of light, how short is your voltage pulse? Is your pulse short enough? I think not. Is the short enough pulse long enough to turn the magnet?
Joe's flywheel helps out. But a pulsed DC power supply with current limiting may do the trick.
Keep working it. Kudos.
+BMan18 Energy from no power ? really explain this illusion please and use as many letters and numerical references,
Mistake number one is Daftman is not building a newman generator he is using a newman motor.
Number 2 is he is using solid state which could work although there is no solid state short just a collapse in the field.
Mabye if daftman had the correct approach and with as much help form others willing to provide this help then we all could benefit.(probably why he built a forum TEEP)
Please refrain from simple equations written by learned men stating laws especially when Man is imperfect and only trying to comprehend which already exists.
BEMF does not like to run on its own circuit the bedini circuits show this unless one makes a sj looper.
You make a good reference to the pulse and collapse granted although remember to share your critic or you will be humbled from others much more learned than onself.
BTW Bedini did not make the bedini circuit he just benefited from it as referenced by Gerad Morin Vids.
I could share much of what I have learnt although put simply people don't deserve it.
Have you built anything or are you just referencing others?
+Grant G "Please refrain from simple equations written by learned men..." "Energy from no power? Really explain this illusion please and use as many letters and numerical references," You put me in a box here. Nothing I, a learned man who is writing will satisfy you. It's this kind of selective denial that has kept the world in the dark about the nature of the Universe and why energy is freely available. But still, in the confused and disrespected writings of mankind there are slivers of truth that can be distilled.
You may have noted that my comment of energy from powerless sources was a bit tongue in cheek. The definition of power in the limited EE world is voltage times current, each one alone is considered powerless. But this is justified in one way by defining current as the movement of electrons, which are the voltage sources (point charges). Consider that no one any longer speaks authentically of electrons orbiting atoms, they do not exist within atoms, they only (next entry)
+BMan18 exist as electrons when electrons are forced out of the stable dual pair of charge or voltage fields energies. You can check Wikipedia for the speed of electricity in conductors. It is 4 orders of magnitude faster than the imagined speed of electrons traveling in that same conductor. The electricity in a single conductor being 75% the speed of light and the electrons being mm/sec. The idea of electrons traveling as moving charges is simply bogus. Of course EEs still define current direction as the reverse movement of the negative potential energy of the electron orbitals. All of this kind of material projection of fields and waves, non-material phenomenon is misleading and criminal in ultimate result. Current could be considered the movement of charges, but that is only because moving charges create magnetic fields. Magnetic fields is the actual "substance" of current.
This brings us back to the topic: no power creating energy... Reference JC Maxwell and the man he (more)
+BMan18 based his equations on: Faraday. We're talking over 100 years ago and a lot of what they believed has been dropped or censured so who knows the full truth today? From this foundation, Heaviside simplified things so the engineers could work with the technology that Tesla gave them, and then abandoned for good reason. Steinmetz put together some more honest math, but it is beyond most mortals in understanding. Today Eric P. Dollard has the best descriptions, but even he has colored his descriptions with sideways slams at the corruption of the truth by educational institutions. Note all these gentlemen believed there had to be an Ether, but that relies on both superfine particles similar to QED theory and "counter space" similar to parallel dimensions. What we have in front of us is an electric Universe, saturated with voltage and magnetic fields. It could be that simple, the fields themselves creating the space we enjoy. Regardless, the fact is as Maxwell famously reported:(more)
+BMan18 Moving voltage field sources create magnetic fields circulating them. Changing moving voltage fields induce magnetic fields in strength proportional to the rate of change of the field movement (not the voltage itself, although Faraday and Lorenz insisted this was so. Likewise, a moving Magnetic field will induce a Voltage field in proportion to it's rate of change, not it's field strength. The totality of one field (not power by EE standards) inducing the other is both a rate of change related force but also a direction pointed phenomenon. Maxwell invented Quaterion Mathematics, Heaviside and Lorentz simplified it and suggested you use your fingers to point the way. Dollard is the only one today that actually speaks of the multiple fields that exist in a transformer with direction (that I've found). But there's more, each induced field will induce it's own, creating a four field induction for any one qualifying changing field. This is inertia expressed in field induction(more)
@TechnologyGod cooling a 1:1 transformer to 0K-ish tends to destroy it in itself; that said, if they're shorted...what would oscillate, then? Just wait 'til this guy builds a graphene space elevator (also in the washroom) out of persistence and cast off pencils. Maybe start out with a memristor PLL.
you should've built a HUGE one... instead of 4 small ones.
what circuit did you use??
HomeDistiller please tone down you replies some members are just starting out with all this.
But you explanation is good but now need for the dig. (Oh and if you had any idea of power generation you would know that cogging is) we all had to start somewhere even you. Again thanks for the explanation and your time in replying.
The idea of this unit was not my idea, it was one of my youtube buddies, and if he reads this he will tell you it wasnt my idea but his, A Bill. Now it seems like Im to be challenged all Im going to say is I will only give full details on anything that works has intended but like most I will not holed my breath. Now I will not respond to any more challengers like this unless I publish any theory full stop so with that please dont waste your time asking or commenting like any of the above.
So sorry for my none conforming build if I was to stick to convention this kind of system will never work.
Thank you all for youre input its all useful.
Dam 500 word count.
Probably bad examples but I think we all get the picture.
I wish I hadnt bothered with some of the years of classrooms because in the last 12 months a lot of what was drummed in now looks like brain washing now.
put a fan blade on the end!!!
Daft, please ignore the Sheeple, they do not have a mind of their own they let Exxon and Mobile do their thinking for them.
@coldarc What a Daft Statement, go re-visit Ohms Law v=i X r , without voltage it is impossible to submit ANY current or find ANY resistance, and it IS pressure, you can have ALL the voltage/pressure in the world with the least amount of current/Flow but you can not have current with NO pressure/Voltage!
Hey Daftman dude!
Wicked!
More balancing!Stronger frame.
Keep it up!!!
Ignore the negative comments!!!
Like I say you all win I will never make a perpetual motion machine so I will stop now and give up then.
A lot of you keep emailing me (not posting) saying they want me to give up so I will. I dont want to get in to defending things all the time so Im not going to. After all in not getting anywhere with it am i.
@gudik lol, If that is what you would like to think...
newman has been preaching his xonsept since 1984 and was offered financial backing if he would turn his machine over for testing he refused because it does not work
Thank you for stating this fact, I do not understand all these very old postings about a man and machine that are riddled in fakery!!!