Some scientists argue that Babirusas are also more closely related to anthracotheriidae as opposed to suids, and while there isn’t a lot of non-morphological evidence for it it’s pretty interesting to think about.
Thank you for this video! i really like how well you describe the information...not blowing through 50 facts a second and listing off random information that vaguely relates!!!! Wonderful video.
Hello Benjamin I am big fan of your Videos and research work . I am learning a lot from your program, I am from Fillmore Utah Moved to Washington many years ago but love Wheeler Shale fossil beds..I spent time in Eastern Oregon hunting fossils neR Sheep rock and Clarno national monuments .The most common mammal fossils are a primitive pig named long ago and probabaly incorrectly a Oreodont ? Could you update the correct species name for me ?
Great video, Prof. Burger! I found it quite interesting, seeing the origin of the pig family, and where your fossil likely fits in with the artiodactyl clade. Can't wait to see more videos in the future! :)
Mr. Burger, According to one of your older videos you discussed on becoming a paleontologist. You included that their was no degree in paleontology. I lived in San Diego, CA and pursuing a geology degree. Does an undergraduate in geology with an emphasis in Paleontology from SDSU count towards becoming a paleontologist?
Ray Rico of course. There are some fantasy instructors at SDSU. Most degrees toward careers in paleontology are in either geology or biology departments.
@@BenjaminBurgerScience It does fall under the Geology department. By the way, can you do a video on the Megaladon Shark 🦈. That would be much appreciated.
I would say another in the pig family is the bandicoot. They have teeth similar to a pig. They have teeth that angle outwards like tusks on a pig and there was a pig footed bandicoot. They also dig up the ground like pigs looking for the same food as pigs look for. It would be interesting to know when the two split back in history or which one came first.
Those are Australian-New Guinea marsupials. Any marsupial you can randomly think of will have a more recent common ancestor with bandicoots than bandicoots and pig-like placental mammals. iow any traits which bandicoots have that are "pig-like" were arrived at independently and convergently, rather than inherited simultaneously from a common ancestor.
@@patldennis Try telling that to the bandicoots that dig up my yard and the pigs that dig up the golf course. All looking for grubs and beetles in the ground. They might have a more common recent ancestor but they eat the same foods and have the same feeding habits are the same some have hoofs the same. Bandicoots look like a small pig. Australia used to be joined to the rest of the world and Australia didn't have pigs. Maybe there is a common ancestor for both.
@@GIANTSECRETS there's no doubt that marsupials and placental mammals have a common ancestor that was... a mammal. But bandicoots and pigs don't have an immediate direct ancestor that could explain their traits. Nor are they a misidentified group of marsupial pigs Once again, those traits you pointed out are convergent due to similiar habits, behavior and lifestyle selecting independently rather than all being part of the same family-clade. Here's an example of what I mean...It is implausible to think that alligator gar, gharial crocodillians and Spinosaurus inherited their snouts directly from a common ancestor. otoh convergent evolution as piscivores produced that pattern. It is possible to get very striking reiterations with organisms occupying the same niche.
@@patldennis If they had a common ancestor it would be a very long time ago. It could all be just a coincidence. Bandicoots also have some similar teeth to a pig. They have a sideways tooth in the same spot as pigs have them on the bottom jaw. The one feral pigs cut hunters and dogs with.
@@GIANTSECRETS That's right, the two family-clades are too distinct to explain similar traits. if bandicoots and pigs have similar characteristics or get on in like ways it's due to convergent evolution. Bats fly and birds fly, but the biomechanical structure of their wings are very different. that's bc as mammals and (let's be honest here) reptiles they evolved flight separately, rather than from the same start point
I rly rly like ur video on how to become a paleontologist I am in middle school rn and I have been wanting to be a paleontologist since I was three years old I am trying my best I got into a good school bay academy but umm I didn’t get in with science :( I got 9% more than the passing grade for science but I got in for creative writing (I took that just in case). Do I still have a chance of becoming a paleontologist
21:30 How does one actually *lose an archaeological specimen* ? Did it fall out of sb's pocket and was blown away by the wind? Or did sb forget it at a train station or in a hotel bathroom? I just can't wrap my mind around it.
So I guess this was recorded before the consensus was reached that the “hell pigs” ain’t in fact pigs and actually ARE closely related to hippos and whales compared to other artiodactyls
There is some debate if the family Anthracotheriidae is closely related to the family Entelodontidae, and hence the family Entelodontidae are not related to pigs, but ancestral to hippos, however my systematic studies suggest they are closely related to pigs and peccaries, rather than hippos. This is still debated, as basal artiodactyl relationships are confusing since we don’t have molecular data for extinct fossil groups. (Note that the Anthracotheriidae and hippos are mostly old world, while the “hell pigs” are mostly new world.) Hope that helps!
It's so refreshing to see a real man who isn't a slave to so-called 'personal hygiene'. The 3 different pictures of you at 28:02 is really interesting. Another great video, thanks.
It’s dismaying to learn of someone who views personal hygiene as enslavement. Do the bugs that crawl on your skin keep you up at night? Or is your stench an effective repellent?
I cannot make any connection between fossil pigs and your facial expressions and hand waving. I am sure your words kind of add up, but mostly you go so fast and the video of you is so distracting from the pigs and their story, I just had to give up and leave the subject for another time. Entertaining stories help pass along oral histories. But the story of the past is written in the locations, the populations of these creatures interacting with each other, their environment and other species. If you are not on the screen at all, and you spoke only in simulations of the species you are trying to describe, I think it would be easier. If I had to also remember the voice and face of every person who taught me, or wrote things I read, or made videos about things, not about themselves, I would not have enough memory left for the subject matter. Video is still linear, as human speech is. The story of billions of pigs over tens of millions of years is not linear and not simple. ('pigs" OR "pig") has 485 Million entry points (Google, 3 May 2023) and that is massively duplicative and mostly untraceable. But it is much larger than 28 minute of a video. The subjects of this scale need different tools, different approaches, and probably talking heads and waving hands are not going to be powerful and complete enough to represent, store, model and convey that. Richard Collins, The Internet Foundation
I’m a heritage hog farmer and I found this video to be very interesting! Thank you so much for taking your time to make these videos!
Looking for cheaper textbooks for your students is the sign of a good instructor. You are a blessing for students, good sir!
Beard looks great, man!
Agreed 👍
And the new 'do!
Some scientists argue that Babirusas are also more closely related to anthracotheriidae as opposed to suids, and while there isn’t a lot of non-morphological evidence for it it’s pretty interesting to think about.
I honestly can’t wait for more! Thank you for doing these amazing videos, and the learning experience you bring with each one.
Glad you're back
welcome back sir.. your new look is superb.. your channel help me alot during my study time, thank you!
Thanks, Benjamin. I'm taking your advice - keeping my eyes glued to the ground. ;-p
Hooray! Benjamin's found and named a new species 😊 Fantastic! So pleased for you. I just love your series 👍🏻 Great species name BTW.
More about pigs please!
Thank you for this video! i really like how well you describe the information...not blowing through 50 facts a second and listing off random information that vaguely relates!!!! Wonderful video.
Hello Benjamin I am big fan of your Videos and research work . I am learning a lot from your program, I am from Fillmore Utah Moved to Washington many years ago but love Wheeler Shale fossil beds..I spent time in Eastern Oregon hunting fossils neR Sheep rock and Clarno national monuments .The most common mammal fossils are a primitive pig named long ago and probabaly incorrectly a Oreodont ? Could you update the correct species name for me ?
Thanks for all your hard work on our behalf
Great video, Prof. Burger! I found it quite interesting, seeing the origin of the pig family, and where your fossil likely fits in with the artiodactyl clade. Can't wait to see more videos in the future! :)
What a fun story with your daughter finding it the day after the eclipse. What a great name.
Mr. Burger,
According to one of your older videos you discussed on becoming a paleontologist. You included that their was no degree in paleontology. I lived in San Diego, CA and pursuing a geology degree. Does an undergraduate in geology with an emphasis in Paleontology from SDSU count towards becoming a paleontologist?
Ray Rico of course. There are some fantasy instructors at SDSU. Most degrees toward careers in paleontology are in either geology or biology departments.
@@BenjaminBurgerScience
It does fall under the Geology department. By the way, can you do a video on the Megaladon Shark 🦈. That would be much appreciated.
Thank you for this information!!
J David Love was the state geologist of Wyoming, and featured on the PBS "The West" back 20 plus years ago.
Im a huge fan of your content. Keep up the great work. Cheers from Turkey 🇹🇷
Pigs are my favorite pets. Just needed to share that, lol. Very informative and fun video bud, thanks a bunch, I learned a ton.
Love your videos continue the good work
VERY NICE......greatings from Macedonia
Ahhhh I missed this! More videos!
When can we see more videos? Miss them a lot!
6:02 Amogus
I think I have a couple dinosaurs eggs. Is there any way I can send pictures to you to identify them?
I am 12 years old and I want to become a paleontologist study of dinosaurs
more ptosaur stuff they need love
I want moreeee I want to be a paleontologist!!!
I would say another in the pig family is the bandicoot. They have teeth similar to a pig. They have teeth that angle outwards like tusks on a pig and there was a pig footed bandicoot. They also dig up the ground like pigs looking for the same food as pigs look for. It would be interesting to know when the two split back in history or which one came first.
Those are Australian-New Guinea marsupials. Any marsupial you can randomly think of will have a more recent common ancestor with bandicoots than bandicoots and pig-like placental mammals.
iow any traits which bandicoots have that are "pig-like" were arrived at independently and convergently, rather than inherited simultaneously from a common ancestor.
@@patldennis Try telling that to the bandicoots that dig up my yard and the pigs that dig up the golf course. All looking for grubs and beetles in the ground. They might have a more common recent ancestor but they eat the same foods and have the same feeding habits are the same some have hoofs the same. Bandicoots look like a small pig. Australia used to be joined to the rest of the world and Australia didn't have pigs. Maybe there is a common ancestor for both.
@@GIANTSECRETS there's no doubt that marsupials and placental mammals have a common ancestor that was... a mammal. But bandicoots and pigs don't have an immediate direct ancestor that could explain their traits. Nor are they a misidentified group of marsupial pigs Once again, those traits you pointed out are convergent due to similiar habits, behavior and lifestyle selecting independently rather than all being part of the same family-clade. Here's an example of what I mean...It is implausible to think that alligator gar, gharial crocodillians and Spinosaurus inherited their snouts directly from a common ancestor. otoh convergent evolution as piscivores produced that pattern. It is possible to get very striking reiterations with organisms occupying the same niche.
@@patldennis If they had a common ancestor it would be a very long time ago. It could all be just a coincidence. Bandicoots also have some similar teeth to a pig. They have a sideways tooth in the same spot as pigs have them on the bottom jaw. The one feral pigs cut hunters and dogs with.
@@GIANTSECRETS That's right, the two family-clades are too distinct to explain similar traits. if bandicoots and pigs have similar characteristics or get on in like ways it's due to convergent evolution. Bats fly and birds fly, but the biomechanical structure of their wings are very different. that's bc as mammals and (let's be honest here) reptiles they evolved flight separately, rather than from the same start point
I think that over time, Benjamin Burger has started to look more and more like Indiana Jones. Maybe I'm the only one who notices.
I rly rly like ur video on how to become a paleontologist I am in middle school rn and I have been wanting to be a paleontologist since I was three years old I am trying my best I got into a good school bay academy but umm I didn’t get in with science :( I got 9% more than the passing grade for science but I got in for creative writing (I took that just in case). Do I still have a chance of becoming a paleontologist
21:30 How does one actually *lose an archaeological specimen* ? Did it fall out of sb's pocket and was blown away by the wind? Or did sb forget it at a train station or in a hotel bathroom? I just can't wrap my mind around it.
Hi Ben
My favorite genus of pigs are the crooked tooth, bark eaters, Porky's Orthodontistis
Hilarious.
Im fond of the Warner brother’s pig. Datus Datus Datus allusfolksus.
Awesome!
Thanks for the content, I hope you are doing fine because you haven't uploaded in a while.
when i was a young warthog
Piggies! 🐷
I thought whales belong to the cetacean order, not artiodactyl.
i wrote to books tike that if you want to reaad them love your work bring on nfeldwork
So I guess this was recorded before the consensus was reached that the “hell pigs” ain’t in fact pigs and actually ARE closely related to hippos and whales compared to other artiodactyls
There is some debate if the family Anthracotheriidae is closely related to the family Entelodontidae, and hence the family Entelodontidae are not related to pigs, but ancestral to hippos, however my systematic studies suggest they are closely related to pigs and peccaries, rather than hippos. This is still debated, as basal artiodactyl relationships are confusing since we don’t have molecular data for extinct fossil groups. (Note that the Anthracotheriidae and hippos are mostly old world, while the “hell pigs” are mostly new world.) Hope that helps!
Did he lose weight?
Grow that beard out a bit and shave yourself some muttonchops and you’ll look like the palæontologists of ‘ol
Why are whales & dolphins included in even toed animals when the bones of their flippers clearly show five digits?
I always thought they belong to cetaceans.
Where does the pygmy hog of India fit in?
This video is linda Sus if you ask me
It's so refreshing to see a real man who isn't a slave to so-called 'personal hygiene'. The 3 different pictures of you at 28:02 is really interesting. Another great video, thanks.
It’s dismaying to learn of someone who views personal hygiene as enslavement. Do the bugs that crawl on your skin keep you up at night? Or is your stench an effective repellent?
Do you Stutter? cause i can see those minute passes in between cause i stutter, thats why!! No Offense.
I cannot make any connection between fossil pigs and your facial expressions and hand waving. I am sure your words kind of add up, but mostly you go so fast and the video of you is so distracting from the pigs and their story, I just had to give up and leave the subject for another time. Entertaining stories help pass along oral histories. But the story of the past is written in the locations, the populations of these creatures interacting with each other, their environment and other species. If you are not on the screen at all, and you spoke only in simulations of the species you are trying to describe, I think it would be easier. If I had to also remember the voice and face of every person who taught me, or wrote things I read, or made videos about things, not about themselves, I would not have enough memory left for the subject matter. Video is still linear, as human speech is. The story of billions of pigs over tens of millions of years is not linear and not simple. ('pigs" OR "pig") has 485 Million entry points (Google, 3 May 2023) and that is massively duplicative and mostly untraceable. But it is much larger than 28 minute of a video. The subjects of this scale need different tools, different approaches, and probably talking heads and waving hands are not going to be powerful and complete enough to represent, store, model and convey that. Richard Collins, The Internet Foundation