If only quiet honesty like this was the norm in politics and the media. They don’t call the opposition ‘scum’ or ‘bastards’ they just present the truth. Love these guys.
@phil wheeler "They don’t call the opposition ‘scum’ or ‘bastards’ they just present the truth." - But the truth of the matter is their opposition ARE INDEED 'scum' and 'bastards'. Simply pointing out what should be the obvious by now... So, are we going to ignore that aspect?
These boys are my heroes, they have helped keep me sane during this dark year. They are exposing the widespread media bias that surrounds Brexit and Climate Change. Thank-you.
@@englishsteve1465 I don't believe everything that I see happening to my country, I don't believe that London looks like a foreign city, I don't believe that there are no go areas in my home city of Birmingham, I don't believe that millions of economic migrants (mostly male) are flooding into Europe, I believe my Government, I sleep easy at night knowing that it's only Fascists spreading false rumours about Frau Merkel inviting tens of millions more Africans to come to Europe, I also believe in Father Christmas and the Tooth Fairy ....like you Stevey boy.
@@JohnSmith-fr7js complicated problems huh ? simple answer though, cut yourself off from biggest trade partner, yay !!! maybe we should get Trumpty dumpty to build us a wall too, around entire country , yay ! sorted ! oh, and the govt you don't trust, me too, the Brexit party too, they all don't mention the lovely free trade deals with commonwealth etc, all will be linked to immigration quotas, so not less immigrants, just different ones. I hadn't seen most of the led by donkeys posters so I searched YT for them, you should look too, even ardent leavers like you will say wtf at some of them.
@@englishsteve1465 There you go again, it's all about money to you isn't it?Tell me how much does your loyalty cost? How much does your patriotism cost? How much does your freedom cost? Was the Falklands war worth the cost or do we let the Fascists invade and not fight back? Europeans are inherently Fascistic by nature, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Austria, Greece, Romania, have been Fascist dictatorships within the last 100 years and we had to sacrifice the cream of our forefathers to stop them ruling the World. Well what they couldn't do militarily they are now trying to do economically and 5th columnists like you are dancing to their tune waving your little starry blue flags to the E.U. anthem of Frau Merkel and Monsieur Macron, one day I hope there will be a reckoning and all traitors will be served with British justice.
@Velma O' Donoghue "This is the most authentic response to the madness that's happened to date!" - Maybe so, but do you honestly think this is enough? Do you truly believe it is reaching out and making a difference?
@@nicadi2005If you really want to make a difference the least you could is don't vote for the con party, perhaps if you live in a tory stronghold try tactical voting to help get the tories out. And maybe join the enough is enough campaign
National treasures all. I have not felt this represented since the whole Brexit drama began. And I must reiterate this: For all the stuff that progressives are after on the environment, fairness and health, the front line is Brexit. Feed nationalism and we are all toast.
@@grim_fm9213 Not sure what that has to do with anything. If you voted in the 2016 referendum you did so one the understanding that whatever the final numbers, the majority vote would be honoured and the result implemented. If you didn't think that then maybe democracy is not the system of government for you.
Always enjoy Krishnan's interviews. Thanks for having these two men, who have common sense and integrity, help the British public see the truth about Brexit and the Climate Crisis. Restores my faith in human nature.
+Em doesn't the fact that most people don't care about the environment keeps your faith in human nature on quite a low level? I can't comment about Brexit as like most people I've stopped having any opinion on it.
Thanks for a great interview -- and for the laughs despite its all being so serious. I love Led By Donkeys' sharp ear and eye for hypocrisy, absurdity and irresponsibility in holding our benighted leaders to account. And only too pleased to support their work. Just ordered the book.
Great job by Channel 4 & Krishnan doing a long interview that brings out the genuine humanity of Led by Donkeys. A master class that should be done by other broadcasters. The lads at Donkeys are at the grass roots of explaining just nice & simply the hypocrisy of Brexit by certain politicians and vested interests
Daniel Hannon saying that we absolutely wouldn't leave the single market and it would be madness to do so (paraphrasing a little) is one quote that has always stuck in my mind. There were lots of other leave campaigners that said much the same thing too.
@@ladyfaye8248 I think you're taking the saying "Lions led by donkeys" too seriously. It's a pragmatic phrase where it's used to imply a particular meaning i.e Lions representing competent thinking individuals led by Donkeys, leaders that don't have a clue what they are doing or even understand what the Lions are thinking. By your logic, saying "You're barking up the wrong tree" is an insult to dogs as they are beings of loyalty and they don't shout up the wrong tree (unless its a cat). Implying that any conversational phrase initialised in human history that uses animals for a meaning, somehow directly insults them. You could say I'm taking your comment too seriously which I might be, but I'm trying to understand what you're getting at.
@@themanmrbijok7364 I get what you say. I am simply moving on from the old ways of thinking and just not using or encouraging language that utilises animals (or human groups) for the purpose of levity in some way. I see that method of communications as a kind of abuse against the vulnerable amongst us, animals included. Aside from all this talk of language, I do not agree in stopping brexit because, as a democracy, the people voted to leave and so the vote must be implemented, pure and simple.
@@ladyfaye8248 I would definitely agree that Brexit needs to be implemented to consist of democracy. However, the whole process in the referendum and the Withdrawal Agreement has been a total mess. Its created a political 'team vs team' mentality in the public eye. I do understand why people have voted to leave but from what I've seen lately, there's no consistency among them of what they want compared with remain voters. The problem was that there was no plan carried out and it was essentially rushed through with both sides of the political spectrum refusing to compromise. That's how I see it. No one compromising a little bit.
Krishnan Guru-Murthy is a fantastic interviewer. He is engaged, keeps everything going at a great pace and asks great questions without distractedly reading notes.
He lets them tell their story without butting in unnecessarily. Too many interviewers disrupt the guests narrative to ask a question that it was obvious they were just about to answer.
This is my favourite episodee of the 'Ways to Change the World' so far- keep up the good work MR Krishnan Guru-Murthy and team and of course 'Ed by Donkey's - good on you all 👍
These guys shhould have run the remain campaign... I volunteered for the Remain campaign. In one of the first volunteer sessions there was assembled in one room experts in every field that could have influenced the debate. Barristers/solicitors specialising in EU law and/or international trade, and former civil servants that were posted to and worked in and/or alongside EU institutions, and local government specialists that were responsible for deciding which EU citizens were eligible for benefits in the UK... Experts all and if you wanted to assemble such a grouping of professionals, it would cost £10,000s per hour. We were just asked to put leaflets in boxes, and the campaign ignored all we said about stressing the benefits of remain, even though we were the experts who knew the EU better than many in the EU itself!
Led by donkeys, yes the very essence of English leadership. Donkeys have a character that encompasses stubbornness but, this is due to their highly developed sense of self-preservation. The Tory party fits the profile.
What happens when you chase down the hypocrisy of one side but not the other? You get labelled as a hypocrite and rightly so. And of course the people you are criticising have the right to ignore what you say.
Things that wrong about brexit. If you vote leave, you're right wing. If you vote remain you're left wing. The majority of people voted to leave but people want the vote reversed because of the marginal vote. The majority of the MPs voted to trigger article 50 which sets in law that we will be leaving the EU, now the same MPs have gone against that. The labour party keeping to flip flopping with a leader who doesn't have a clear stance on this and is too scared to speak out because he's desperate to become PM. And people like these two, "holding brexiteers to account" for what? When people voted in the 70s they did not vote for the European union the way it is now, they voted for a trading block, nothing more. So the argument that people use that "you don't know what you voted for when you meant leave" Is the same argument as "where do you see the EU in the next 20 years?" No one can see into the future, predicting an outcome is falsehood. Time will tell if the people made the right choice or not, but what time does tell I'd that if you don't like where the UK is 10/20 or 30 years time, you can always rejoin.
@@candidbowyer4625 strange that, I am from and live in the UK. Even if I never, say I lived in Europe. . I still have every right to watch the video as the UK isn't the only country affected by this...
@@jacobjorgenson9285 45 million includes anyone under the legal age limit and also includes those who do not have the right to vote in this country. Let's have a look at those numbers, after those who voted to remain leaves 29 millions, and let's take off those who don't have the right to vote (prisoners and foreign nationals) which is roughly 10 million people, that leaves 19 million of which I would hazard a guess and say 15 million of them are children and teenagers, which leaves only 4 million people who never voted.
@@saxglend9439 peace, prosperity, social progress. Freedom to move, live and work in EU countries. Yes, the EU is not perfect, let's make it work better for the people.
@@cyclocop1773 Prosperity? The unemployment rate in the Eurozone is double that in the UK and the levels in Greece and Spain are off the charts.. The EU is a low growth high unemployment economic basket case. And that's before we get to the really important matter of the public having no ability to elect or vote out the corrupt and colourless bureaucrats put in charge of the whole anti democratic monstrosity.
The people who were misslead need a simple messege. And it is BREXIT CANNOT BE DONE. IT WILL BEIGIN WHEN WE LEAVE. This messege should be stressed because everyone needs to see the light in the tunnel. If they know that the light if far away they will change.
@@telectronix1368 it is when your campaign is centred around your opposition to what they are supposed to be. Remoaners have a completely different take on what Brexit is about compared with Brexiteers.
Listen guys.. have you been to parliament lately.. as in since years ago? There has been so much debate, art activism, dress-up, street theatre, you name it going on pretty much every day. I admire your stuff.. but please.. Have you even heard of SODEM? These guys nail pretty much every live feed with their message.
Proselytizing Orthodox Pentecostal Trans Rabbit Were you in one of the million strong protest marches to Westminster , prior to the referendum , demanding the UK leave the EU and a change to the status quo ??? Well were you ?
Oh rah I'm in Europe because of Brexit and people like Channel 4 and your trying to appear on my feed like I'm vested in ur Bull bro what? leave me alone let me chill out how you kick someone out of your country and now you're trying to beg for attention
I thought hoarding was the British term for the American billboard. Are you leaving the EU for the USA? I don't think Cornwallis. Lord North, and King George III would like this.
I thought journalism was supposed to be balanced but why do you invite only anti-Brexiteers onto your program who only quote what they term as the "hypocrisy" from Brexiteers? What about the rampant hypocrisy from the Remainers. This is just another way Channel 4 and Kristen.....continues to maintain their agenda of Brexit-Basing - Channel 4 you are supposed to be working to presemt a balanced and unbias view since you are a public service funded by the great British taxpayer - don't you feel ashamed.
The ground is your mother & all other citizens are your brothers & sisters. The gold ones are the rulers, the silver are auxiliaries (what you call middle class), & the producers are bronze or iron. There is a prophecy that if people of the wrong metal are given power our city will be destroyed.
@@telectronix1368 Rubbish! It's because the Establishment MSM dont support BREXIT neither does Parliament, the BBC and MSM are biased, they are propaganda mouth pieces for the REMAINIANS, and the reason is that their "workable plan" is a European Super State.
@@JohnSmith-fr7js Nope. All the time of the referendum itself and over 3 years since and the Leave camp have not put forward a workable plan. It's not a Big Plan To Hide Leave's Great Plan.... ..they just don't have not provided one.
@@JohnSmith-fr7js Hahaha. "What, us? The folk pushing to leave the EU? You think **we** should actually have a workable proposal? GOODness no. It is for......someone else.....to come up with a workable proposal."
It's interesting the Billionaire Boys Club who finances Extinction Rebellion and pays the staff salaries are attempting to now export from Europe into the US lol. You can bet those US giants from the BBC get the finest wine at the EU table though.
@@jacobjorgenson9285 For your information I am more than half a decade into State retirement and I work more hours now than I did when I was earning my living; moreover, all the work I do now, I do voluntarily, for charities and not for profits that look after wildlife, the environment, public parks and waterways. Do you imagine I am not angry with the Government, both local and national? Budget cuts always hit people like us the hardest but you will never see us forcing our opinions and beliefs on others, against their will. Do we complain? Yes, but legitimately and lawfully; we work with the very people who would deny proper funding by agreeing to do a few of the things they can no longer afford to do through no fault of their own and, because we are all reasonable and want the same thing, they, in turn, help us out in other ways that are equally legitimate and legal. Who do you suppose actually pays the enormous sums of money required to expedite these criminals to put preposterous, puerile posters on a property that is not theirs? What good comes of it? It is adding fuel to a fire that should be dampened not accelerated: their actions cause dissent, sow distrust and stir people's anger. They should be shamed, not celebrated; jailed, not left free to damage property. They are not, as you quite rightly point out, 'bad people', but what they are doing is, nevertheless, illegal and certainly not legitimate. They are misguided and not really all that well educated in my humble opinion and should not be allowed out in the community. They have strayed onto the grass and need to be nudged, gently but not too gently, back onto the path. I have been called a lot of things in my life, JJ, but never lazy or unengaged; I am, in fact, and deed, the contrary. Ergo, I take exception to your off-hand insulting remarks, blithely levelled at someone you have no first-hand knowledge of; furthermore, can you produce evidence, of any kind, that would support your accusations?
The studio make up people have done a brilliant job of making them look like a couple of scruffy plebs for their appearance on C4.This just a variation of 3 Men in a Pub to convince viewers that "ordinary people" in a lower income group are giving up their time to put a different part of view over and are committed to the EU. Totally contrived and obvious. Mortgages and kids is repeated ad nauseam to reinforce their message.
You mean like pushing for a real, informed debate and high-falutin' ideals like evidence-based policy. It's clearly MUCH better to use emotion and ignore practical realities.
@@telectronix1368 "It's clearly MUCH better to use emotion and ignore practical realities"...and lies... ie Much better to use lies...not ignore them. My Bad
Brez6645 - Agreed - and as it is looking likely that we might be stitched up either with a Boris Johnson faux Brexit or a Labour fudge or Lib Dem betrayal - Brexiteers has better get geared up for a plan B - in my view this is a proclamation of sovereignty and a withdrawal of our consent to being governed by a duplicitous parliament.
Simple,because a referendum is just an opinion poll,it is not legally binding and if it was would have been declared illegal because of the leave campaigns cheating. Suck it up losers,hope you enjoyed your 3rd no Brexit day
blackpig52 - a very typical defeatist Remoaner response. Remoaners claimed the economy would collapse and the sky would fall in just on the outcome of the vote - all lies. Remoaners only see this issue in economic terms - most Leavers see this in terms of sovereignty - and whilst you are happy to be told what to do by foreigners who do not live amongst us - Leavers do not. This is about political control not trading arrangements. The EU is corrupt. You voted in favour of continued corruption - but that issue never entered your tiny mind. The EU is undemocratic and the parliament is a rubber stamping machine in which decisions are made which favour French wine growers at the expense of British wine drinkers - and Spain and Italy. Britain has moved away from a production economy and into a service economy and EU rules do not favour this - so even on an economic front the EU is. Bad model for Britain. If you think the Remoaner camp didn’t cheat and the Leave camp did - tick the ‘I am naive’ box. The government spent £9 million on pro EU propaganda before the referendum - cheating or what? We voted to remain in the EEC IN 1975 by 67% - last vote was 48% a massive shift in favour of Leave - the momentum is in favour of leaving. If the referendum was only an opinion then by your logic so is an election - not legally binding? Again by your warped logic no Government should heed public opinion - if the pubic don’t have the right opinion get a new public right? You are a fucking communist and you are probably stupid enough not to realise it... or do you wear fascist underpants. The referendum was 100% binding on the government because they said the would carry out the result and they have failed to do so. If Brexit isn’t delivered then there can never be any compulsion on a Brexiteer obeying any rules passed by government at Westminster - and Remoaners can pay the EU bill.
@@jacobjorgenson9285 Of course they are, these two out of work scruffy full time rent-a-mob tossas are printing huge banners and placing adverts and having TV documentaries made for them from donations made by the public collected in tin cans outside outside super markets HA HA HA HA!!
Everything these guys say is classic Remoaner one-eyed opinion - same old nonsense - its amazing how it is that only Remoaners meet Leavers who have now changed their minds - I’m a Leaver and I’ve never met one - but guess what I know a few Remoaners who think that Brexit should have been honoured.
Jacob Jorgenson - Right wing? Since when has defending a nation’s sovereignty been regarded as right wing? All those heroic solders who defended their nation’s during two world wars were right wing? You have a distorted logic. You think that wanting to be governed by a foreign elite is somehow a good idea?
Jacob Jorgenson as for ‘young voters’ - you know the old saying about ‘older is wiser’ the majority of people who attempt suicide are young - invariably it is older wiser people that talk them out of their silly notions. Be careful what you wish for.
If only quiet honesty like this was the norm in politics and the media. They don’t call the opposition ‘scum’ or ‘bastards’ they just present the truth. Love these guys.
@phil wheeler "They don’t call the opposition ‘scum’ or ‘bastards’ they just present the truth." - But the truth of the matter is their opposition ARE INDEED 'scum' and 'bastards'. Simply pointing out what should be the obvious by now... So, are we going to ignore that aspect?
@@nicadi2005 Definitely not, that's why I never vote for these selfish, greedy, dishonest and corrupt tory arseholes
These boys are my heroes, they have helped keep me sane during this dark year. They are exposing the widespread media bias that surrounds Brexit and Climate Change. Thank-you.
"Boys"?.... Yeah sure like some of these 35 year old "child refugees"...HA HA HA.
@@JohnSmith-fr7js "I believe everything I read in The Sun I do" - john smith.
@@englishsteve1465 I don't believe everything that I see happening to my country, I don't believe that London looks like a foreign city, I don't believe that there are no go areas in my home city of Birmingham, I don't believe that millions of economic migrants (mostly male) are flooding into Europe, I believe my Government, I sleep easy at night knowing that it's only Fascists spreading false rumours about Frau Merkel inviting tens of millions more Africans to come to Europe, I also believe in Father Christmas and the Tooth Fairy ....like you Stevey boy.
@@JohnSmith-fr7js complicated problems huh ? simple answer though, cut yourself off from biggest trade partner, yay !!! maybe we should get Trumpty dumpty to build us a wall too, around entire country , yay ! sorted ! oh, and the govt you don't trust, me too, the Brexit party too, they all don't mention the lovely free trade deals with commonwealth etc, all will be linked to immigration quotas, so not less immigrants, just different ones. I hadn't seen most of the led by donkeys posters so I searched YT for them, you should look too, even ardent leavers like you will say wtf at some of them.
@@englishsteve1465 There you go again, it's all about money to you isn't it?Tell me how much does your loyalty cost? How much does your patriotism cost? How much does your freedom cost? Was the Falklands war worth the cost or do we let the Fascists invade and not fight back? Europeans are inherently Fascistic by nature, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Austria, Greece, Romania, have been Fascist dictatorships within the last 100 years and we had to sacrifice the cream of our forefathers to stop them ruling the World. Well what they couldn't do militarily they are now trying to do economically and 5th columnists like you are dancing to their tune waving your little starry blue flags to the E.U. anthem of Frau Merkel and Monsieur Macron, one day I hope there will be a reckoning and all traitors will be served with British justice.
From little acorns... massive admiration lads!! This is the most authentic response to the madness that's happened to date!
@Velma O' Donoghue "This is the most authentic response to the madness that's happened to date!" - Maybe so, but do you honestly think this is enough? Do you truly believe it is reaching out and making a difference?
@@nicadi2005If you really want to make a difference the least you could is don't vote for the con party, perhaps if you live in a tory stronghold try tactical voting to help get the tories out. And maybe join the enough is enough campaign
Love led by donkeys. Keep up the good work.
All my love to Channel 4 and these guys. A massive THANK YOU
Fascinating. Passionate people doing what is right. Thank you C4 news
you mean people who agree with your own point of view....
@@revol148 did they or did they not say those things?
Fascinating. "Climate Change is all encompassing; but Brexit is the Front Line". Excellent many thanks.
National treasures all. I have not felt this represented since the whole Brexit drama began.
And I must reiterate this: For all the stuff that progressives are after on the environment, fairness and health, the front line is Brexit.
Feed nationalism and we are all toast.
Exactly - well put.
Progressives😂😂🤪😂😂🤦🏻♂️
These guys articulate the argument for why we need another referendum so well. There plenty of moderate leavers, they are definitely reaching them.
The only people who want and talk about a second referendum are those who were on the losing side of the 2016 decision.
@@Brez6645Well done your powers of observation know no bounds.
@@rossleeson8626 Flattery will get you nowhere.
@@Brez6645 "In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way." - Nigel Farage, 16th May 2016
You were saying?
@@grim_fm9213 Not sure what that has to do with anything. If you voted in the 2016 referendum you did so one the understanding that whatever the final numbers, the majority vote would be honoured and the result implemented. If you didn't think that then maybe democracy is not the system of government for you.
True British heroes! I hope they continue their work and keep up the pressure to hold these politicians to account and pointing out their hypocrisy.
Always enjoy Krishnan's interviews. Thanks for having these two men, who have common sense and integrity, help the British public see the truth about Brexit and the Climate Crisis. Restores my faith in human nature.
+Em doesn't the fact that most people don't care about the environment keeps your faith in human nature on quite a low level? I can't comment about Brexit as like most people I've stopped having any opinion on it.
@@skaworld509 it was a genuine question for the attention of the person who commented in the first place - still good to hear from you anyway.
What truth?
Thanks for a great interview -- and for the laughs despite its all being so serious. I love Led By Donkeys' sharp ear and eye for hypocrisy, absurdity and irresponsibility in holding our benighted leaders to account. And only too pleased to support their work. Just ordered the book.
great job guys . Proud of you !!
God bless Led By Donkeys. Genius.
Great to see/hear some sensible and logical points of view.....! Thanks to Channel 4.....! Holding politicians to account is a must....!!!!
Thank you so much for everything you have done and everything you are doing integrity has become so rare you both have tons of it
You three are heroes. Thank you for everything you do.
Absolutely fantastic. Led by donkeys is one of the beacons of hope in this dark time in politics.
No it isn't - it is a gang of remoaners who Leavers regard as naive. End of.
Great job by Channel 4 & Krishnan doing a long interview that brings out the genuine humanity of Led by Donkeys. A master class that should be done by other broadcasters. The lads at Donkeys are at the grass roots of explaining just nice & simply the hypocrisy of Brexit by certain politicians and vested interests
You are fighting the good fight,thank you all.
Daniel Hannon saying that we absolutely wouldn't leave the single market and it would be madness to do so (paraphrasing a little) is one quote that has always stuck in my mind.
There were lots of other leave campaigners that said much the same thing too.
To liken the 'leaders' to donkeys is an insult to the latter. Donkeys are beings of great natural nobility and sensitivity.
I think thats lions you're describing.
@@themanmrbijok7364 nope, the accolade applies also to donkeys and every single other animal.
@@ladyfaye8248 I think you're taking the saying "Lions led by donkeys" too seriously. It's a pragmatic phrase where it's used to imply a particular meaning i.e Lions representing competent thinking individuals led by Donkeys, leaders that don't have a clue what they are doing or even understand what the Lions are thinking. By your logic, saying "You're barking up the wrong tree" is an insult to dogs as they are beings of loyalty and they don't shout up the wrong tree (unless its a cat). Implying that any conversational phrase initialised in human history that uses animals for a meaning, somehow directly insults them.
You could say I'm taking your comment too seriously which I might be, but I'm trying to understand what you're getting at.
@@themanmrbijok7364 I get what you say. I am simply moving on from the old ways of thinking and just not using or encouraging language that utilises animals (or human groups) for the purpose of levity in some way. I see that method of communications as a kind of abuse against the vulnerable amongst us, animals included.
Aside from all this talk of language, I do not agree in stopping brexit because, as a democracy, the people voted to leave and so the vote must be implemented, pure and simple.
@@ladyfaye8248 I would definitely agree that Brexit needs to be implemented to consist of democracy. However, the whole process in the referendum and the Withdrawal Agreement has been a total mess. Its created a political 'team vs team' mentality in the public eye. I do understand why people have voted to leave but from what I've seen lately, there's no consistency among them of what they want compared with remain voters. The problem was that there was no plan carried out and it was essentially rushed through with both sides of the political spectrum refusing to compromise.
That's how I see it. No one compromising a little bit.
Fantastic, thank you channel 4
There are still some fair minded brits in the world.
Great work guys! Decent, intelligent people are with you!!!
@The Old Free Music Better being a smug dolt than an ignorant moron!!!!
Great Interview Krishnan. I enjoyed this very much. Kudos to Led by Donkeys.
Krishnan Guru-Murthy is a fantastic interviewer. He is engaged, keeps everything going at a great pace and asks great questions without distractedly reading notes.
He lets them tell their story without butting in unnecessarily. Too many interviewers disrupt the guests narrative to ask a question that it was obvious they were just about to answer.
Damn it ! these guy's have shamed me into having to do something now, beyond moaning about how brexiteers have allowed themselves to be conned.
english steve very Good!!! Did you manage to do sth? What DID you do?
From the other side of the world a great interview. All power to these guys!!
Just stay on the "other side of the World" and keep your nose out of British affairs.
Bravo
55million to build houses in Haiti built one and pocketed the rest 🤔🤔🤔 yeah something does need to change
This is my favourite episodee of the 'Ways to Change the World' so far- keep up the good work MR Krishnan Guru-Murthy and team and of course 'Ed by Donkey's - good on you all 👍
EU is a peace project
Andres Casado why are they building an army then?
@@Iamtilersscreeminganger Keeping peace
Andres Casado 😂😂🤪😂😂😂😂😂😂🤪😂😂🤦🏻♂️
Keeping peace how? With a gun, sounds like a dictatorship move to me.
I love these guys
These guys shhould have run the remain campaign...
I volunteered for the Remain campaign. In one of the first volunteer sessions there was assembled in one room experts in every field that could have influenced the debate. Barristers/solicitors specialising in EU law and/or international trade, and former civil servants that were posted to and worked in and/or alongside EU institutions, and local government specialists that were responsible for deciding which EU citizens were eligible for benefits in the UK... Experts all and if you wanted to assemble such a grouping of professionals, it would cost £10,000s per hour.
We were just asked to put leaflets in boxes, and the campaign ignored all we said about stressing the benefits of remain, even though we were the experts who knew the EU better than many in the EU itself!
Led by donkeys, yes the very essence of English leadership. Donkeys have a character that encompasses stubbornness but, this is due to their highly developed sense of self-preservation. The Tory party fits the profile.
Honest and refreshing. Thank you so much.
Unfortunately the leave campaign has been headed by the fascist right.
Excellent interview
Yet despite all this, no major party seems to be advocating for rejoining the EU :(
Legends
Awesome work guy, keep it up!
Thank you guys for all you're doing 😘👍🍻
These people are fighting for us. They should be applauded.
well done guys. Keep going
We need more of these men 👏
What happens when you chase down the hypocrisy of one side but not the other? You get labelled as a hypocrite and rightly so. And of course the people you are criticising have the right to ignore what you say.
Things that wrong about brexit.
If you vote leave, you're right wing.
If you vote remain you're left wing.
The majority of people voted to leave but people want the vote reversed because of the marginal vote.
The majority of the MPs voted to trigger article 50 which sets in law that we will be leaving the EU, now the same MPs have gone against that.
The labour party keeping to flip flopping with a leader who doesn't have a clear stance on this and is too scared to speak out because he's desperate to become PM.
And people like these two, "holding brexiteers to account" for what?
When people voted in the 70s they did not vote for the European union the way it is now, they voted for a trading block, nothing more.
So the argument that people use that "you don't know what you voted for when you meant leave"
Is the same argument as "where do you see the EU in the next 20 years?"
No one can see into the future, predicting an outcome is falsehood.
Time will tell if the people made the right choice or not, but what time does tell I'd that if you don't like where the UK is 10/20 or 30 years time, you can always rejoin.
But why do you care since you are not in or from the UK? What are you doing watching this video?
@@candidbowyer4625 strange that, I am from and live in the UK.
Even if I never, say I lived in Europe. . I still have every right to watch the video as the UK isn't the only country affected by this...
Well said👏Can clearly tell the difference between the leavers and the remainers!
45mill didn't vote to leave
@@jacobjorgenson9285 45 million includes anyone under the legal age limit and also includes those who do not have the right to vote in this country.
Let's have a look at those numbers, after those who voted to remain leaves 29 millions, and let's take off those who don't have the right to vote (prisoners and foreign nationals) which is roughly 10 million people, that leaves 19 million of which I would hazard a guess and say 15 million of them are children and teenagers, which leaves only 4 million people who never voted.
Led by Donkey's ...very good. Gut gemacht.
Good work fellas.
@@saxglend9439 peace, prosperity, social progress. Freedom to move, live and work in EU countries. Yes, the EU is not perfect, let's make it work better for the people.
@@cyclocop1773 Prosperity? The unemployment rate in the Eurozone is double that in the UK and the levels in Greece and Spain are off the charts.. The EU is a low growth high unemployment economic basket case.
And that's before we get to the really important matter of the public having no ability to elect or vote out the corrupt and colourless bureaucrats put in charge of the whole anti democratic monstrosity.
@@benbow7 how is brexit going to improve unemployment in other EU countries? Sorry I am struggling follow the logic.
@@benbow7you voted brexit because of high unemployment in other EU countries?
@@benbow7 So, you mean that membership of the EU has not stopped individual members (i.e. the UK) from hitting better figures for unemployment.
I think it's art of a sort, a kind of reverse Saatchi Brothers. Great guys.
Great work...just bought your book
Inspiring Program!
We are behind you. The prosecutors of truth. I'm behind you brothers.
The people who were misslead need a simple messege. And it is BREXIT CANNOT BE DONE. IT WILL BEIGIN WHEN WE LEAVE.
This messege should be stressed because everyone needs to see the light in the tunnel. If they know that the light if far away they will change.
Bravo, chaps. #UndeadMusiciansClub
And that's why I love Christian guru Murphy. He calls a spade a spade and the Tories hate it.
Exactly
i once saw letwin with his feet up on the seats in a train at Brockenhurst
Second Referendum: Boris's Deal V. No Deal. It's the only democratic option.
These guys talk about the ideologies of Brexit - I don't think they have ever mentioned them.
Yeh, well democracy is so old fashioned, low roaming charges are so much more important now. :-)
Mark Horton - many a true word said in jest.
Is it for pro remain campaigners to illucidate the 'ideologies of Brexit' ?
@@telectronix1368 it is when your campaign is centred around your opposition to what they are supposed to be. Remoaners have a completely different take on what Brexit is about compared with Brexiteers.
Those Channel 4 seats are cool.
Love this
Listen guys.. have you been to parliament lately.. as in since years ago? There has been so much debate, art activism, dress-up, street theatre, you name it going on pretty much every day. I admire your stuff.. but please.. Have you even heard of SODEM? These guys nail pretty much every live feed with their message.
The extra money on the bus was for private companies.....where are the 40 extra hospitals? Barb
With these guys its more like 'ways to keep the status quo'
Proselytizing Orthodox Pentecostal Trans Rabbit Were you in one of the million strong protest marches to Westminster , prior to the referendum , demanding the UK leave the EU and a change to the status quo ??? Well were you ?
Oh rah I'm in Europe because of Brexit and people like Channel 4 and your trying to appear on my feed like I'm vested in ur Bull bro what? leave me alone let me chill out how you kick someone out of your country and now you're trying to beg for attention
British Patriot Heroes.
I hope the billboard companies will now sue them
Of course you do.
Why support politicians being called out for the actual words.
@@telectronix1368 why should companies that pay for advertising have their ads pasted over by vandals? It's criminal damage
@@000phill000 Oh, you think that they were putting posters up on top of other companies' (i.e. not poltical campaigns) ads.
I thought hoarding was the British term for the American billboard. Are you leaving the EU for the USA? I don't think Cornwallis. Lord North, and King George III would like this.
The tweet you cannot delete
I thought journalism was supposed to be balanced but why do you invite only anti-Brexiteers onto your program who only quote what they term as the "hypocrisy" from Brexiteers? What about the rampant hypocrisy from the Remainers. This is just another way Channel 4 and Kristen.....continues to maintain their agenda of Brexit-Basing - Channel 4 you are supposed to be working to presemt a balanced and unbias view since you are a public service funded by the great British taxpayer - don't you feel ashamed.
Mostly because brexiters are racist bumbling fools not worth having a conversation with
@@jacobjorgenson9285 A great insight into what goes on in your brain.
Offended by everything except their own disgusting behaviour.
Led by Donkeys are woke and going after advertisers - say no more....
TOSSERS
Greenpeace......
These men make me ashamed to be British
They are literally just putting your leader’s own words on a wall. Don’t be a snowflake about it
Why is ‘ways to change the world’ full of annoying middle class people who want things to stay the same?
Max Hobbs So what do you want ?
How do you expect that Brexit will change your life?
@Andy M Brexit supporters must have some idea of why they want Brexit rather than a hatred of the EU and foreigners in general.
The ground is your mother & all other citizens are your brothers & sisters. The gold ones are the rulers, the silver are auxiliaries (what you call middle class), & the producers are bronze or iron. There is a prophecy that if people of the wrong metal are given power our city will be destroyed.
@@dave161256 He expects never to see a black or brown face on his post apocalyptic high street.
How is it that BREXIT campaigners never get a sympathetic interview from the Main Stream Media?
Probably because there has never been a workable plan put forward by the Leave camp.
@@telectronix1368 Rubbish! It's because the Establishment MSM dont support BREXIT neither does Parliament, the BBC and MSM are biased, they are propaganda mouth pieces for the REMAINIANS, and the reason is that their "workable plan" is a European Super State.
@@JohnSmith-fr7js Nope.
All the time of the referendum itself and over 3 years since and the Leave camp have not put forward a workable plan.
It's not a Big Plan To Hide Leave's Great Plan....
..they just don't have not provided one.
@@telectronix1368 The "LEAVE camp" do not Govern the country, it is up to Parliament to deliver a workable plan for BREXIT.
@@JohnSmith-fr7js Hahaha.
"What, us? The folk pushing to leave the EU?
You think **we** should actually have a workable proposal?
GOODness no.
It is for......someone else.....to come up with a workable proposal."
What about those brave Brexiteers who continue on despite the slurs, the haters, the slanderers and those who undermine democracy?
There are many - but don't expect CH4 to give them a fair shake.
Deliver Brexit or get out
Or the most sensible option: remain.
CycloCop why?
@@61shirley how is brexit going to improve your life?
CycloCop Brexit isn't about my life or your life
@@61shirley why would you vote for something that is going to be worse for you, me and our fellow citizens?
Orange man bad!
It's interesting the Billionaire Boys Club who finances Extinction Rebellion and pays the staff salaries are attempting to now export from Europe into the US lol. You can bet those US giants from the BBC get the finest wine at the EU table though.
They belong in jail. They are criminals and having an unshakable belief in something is no excuse.
Aw sweetie, just because you are too lazy and unengaged don't mean they are bad people
@@jacobjorgenson9285 For your information I am more than half a decade into State retirement and I work more hours now than I did when I was earning my living; moreover, all the work I do now, I do voluntarily, for charities and not for profits that look after wildlife, the environment, public parks and waterways.
Do you imagine I am not angry with the Government, both local and national? Budget cuts always hit people like us the hardest but you will never see us forcing our opinions and beliefs on others, against their will.
Do we complain? Yes, but legitimately and lawfully; we work with the very people who would deny proper funding by agreeing to do a few of the things they can no longer afford to do through no fault of their own and, because we are all reasonable and want the same thing, they, in turn, help us out in other ways that are equally legitimate and legal.
Who do you suppose actually pays the enormous sums of money required to expedite these criminals to put preposterous, puerile posters on a property that is not theirs?
What good comes of it?
It is adding fuel to a fire that should be dampened not accelerated: their actions cause dissent, sow distrust and stir people's anger. They should be shamed, not celebrated; jailed, not left free to damage property.
They are not, as you quite rightly point out, 'bad people', but what they are doing is, nevertheless, illegal and certainly not legitimate. They are misguided and not really all that well educated in my humble opinion and should not be allowed out in the community. They have strayed onto the grass and need to be nudged, gently but not too gently, back onto the path.
I have been called a lot of things in my life, JJ, but never lazy or unengaged; I am, in fact, and deed, the contrary.
Ergo, I take exception to your off-hand insulting remarks, blithely levelled at someone you have no first-hand knowledge of; furthermore, can you produce evidence, of any kind, that would support your accusations?
3:55 Asian Dads ?
I thought so too, but... "Aging dads"
@@jonathangiles189 Oh thanks for clearing that up - there is no-way they could pass for Asian !
The studio make up people have done a brilliant job of making them look like a couple of scruffy plebs for their appearance on C4.This just a variation of 3 Men in a Pub to convince viewers that "ordinary people" in a lower income group are giving up their time to put a different part of view over and are committed to the EU. Totally contrived and obvious. Mortgages and kids is repeated ad nauseam to reinforce their message.
lol what happened to democracy
You mean like pushing for a real, informed debate and high-falutin' ideals like evidence-based policy.
It's clearly MUCH better to use emotion and ignore practical realities.
@@telectronix1368 ...and lies...
@@andybycz Your comment does not work as a response to any part of my comment.
@@telectronix1368 "It's clearly MUCH better to use emotion and ignore practical realities"...and lies... ie Much better to use lies...not ignore them. My Bad
@@andybycz Yeah, your comment still doesn't work as a reply since it doesn't make sense.
If Brexit is denied - the majority vote will have been ignored - so why should Brexiteers accept the majority outcome of the election.?
No reason to accept it at all - if the 2016 vote is swept under the carpet then democracy is as good as dead in the UK.
Brez6645 - Agreed - and as it is looking likely that we might be stitched up either with a Boris Johnson faux Brexit or a Labour fudge or Lib Dem betrayal - Brexiteers has better get geared up for a plan B - in my view this is a proclamation of sovereignty and a withdrawal of our consent to being governed by a duplicitous parliament.
@@frze5645 I'd go with that.
Simple,because a referendum is just an opinion poll,it is not legally binding and if it was would have been declared illegal because of the leave campaigns cheating.
Suck it up losers,hope you enjoyed your 3rd no Brexit day
blackpig52 - a very typical defeatist Remoaner response. Remoaners claimed the economy would collapse and the sky would fall in just on the outcome of the vote - all lies. Remoaners only see this issue in economic terms - most Leavers see this in terms of sovereignty - and whilst you are happy to be told what to do by foreigners who do not live amongst us - Leavers do not. This is about political control not trading arrangements.
The EU is corrupt. You voted in favour of continued corruption - but that issue never entered your tiny mind. The EU is undemocratic and the parliament is a rubber stamping machine in which decisions are made which favour French wine growers at the expense of British wine drinkers - and Spain and Italy.
Britain has moved away from a production economy and into a service economy and EU rules do not favour this - so even on an economic front the EU is. Bad model for Britain.
If you think the Remoaner camp didn’t cheat and the Leave camp did - tick the ‘I am naive’ box. The government spent £9 million on pro EU propaganda before the referendum - cheating or what?
We voted to remain in the EEC IN 1975 by 67% - last vote was 48% a massive shift in favour of Leave - the momentum is in favour of leaving.
If the referendum was only an opinion then by your logic so is an election - not legally binding? Again by your warped logic no Government should heed public opinion - if the pubic don’t have the right opinion get a new public right? You are a fucking communist and you are probably stupid enough not to realise it... or do you wear fascist underpants.
The referendum was 100% binding on the government because they said the would carry out the result and they have failed to do so. If Brexit isn’t delivered then there can never be any compulsion on a Brexiteer obeying any rules passed by government at Westminster - and Remoaners can pay the EU bill.
Who funds them....Soros?
Listen up, they are funded by the public through crowd funding
@@jacobjorgenson9285 Of course they are, these two out of work scruffy full time rent-a-mob tossas are printing huge banners and placing adverts and having TV documentaries made for them from donations made by the public collected in tin cans outside outside super markets HA HA HA HA!!
@@JohnSmith-fr7js they illuminated and exposed a lot of the lies you so happily believed in, patriots we call them
@@jacobjorgenson9285 Patriots of the EUSSR Super State.
@@JohnSmith-fr7js just because you personally don't understand much less can compete on the international market does not make them bad
Everything these guys say is classic Remoaner one-eyed opinion - same old nonsense - its amazing how it is that only Remoaners meet Leavers who have now changed their minds - I’m a Leaver and I’ve never met one - but guess what I know a few Remoaners who think that Brexit should have been honoured.
Lots of new young voters are ready to protect the UK from the right wing
@@jacobjorgenson9285 What are you asserting the UK needs protecting from?
Jacob Jorgenson - Right wing? Since when has defending a nation’s sovereignty been regarded as right wing? All those heroic solders who defended their nation’s during two world wars were right wing? You have a distorted logic. You think that wanting to be governed by a foreign elite is somehow a good idea?
Jacob Jorgenson as for ‘young voters’ - you know the old saying about ‘older is wiser’ the majority of people who attempt suicide are young - invariably it is older wiser people that talk them out of their silly notions. Be careful what you wish for.
@@frze5645 EU membership is not like being shot on the western front. Give me an example of foreign elites running the UK?
Fake news
God save the the queen ? Nothing will save re moaners
What about those brave Brexiteers who continue on despite the slurs, the haters, the slanderers and those who undermine democracy?
@Mackem Scouse not true facts, history will prove that wrong
@John Fry any chance of a re-run of the 1997 general election - I voted Blair but on second thoughts I'd rather have voted for John Major?
@Mackem Scouse you voted on lies, these men are helping putti g it right