David Thomas No, seriously, you sound a little immature. Why should his being religious (if your unnecessary guessing is correct) be any more of a problem than you being atheist.
I saw Derren Brown a while back in London, at his show infamous. It was brilliant, the way that many separate mildly impressive acts came together to make an absolutely incredible final 5 minutes. Great man.
Quite a few modern sciences and professions started off as parlour tricks, electricity was seen as a parlour trick for decades before people started trying other things with it.
"I sense you're sitting in a bus going wrong way ... Or maybe ot is a relationship" :D this line made me laugh. Sounded like something you'd put into a comedy sketch show like Little Britain xD
+Ben Theredonethat Speaking at a debate at Oxford University with the Archbishop of Canterbury, the man regarded as the world's most famous Atheist states, he is an "agnostic" and has never called himself the world's most famous Atheist because he is clearly agnostic ! watch?v=dfk7tW429E4 P.s. Richard likes word play he uses it like an hegelian dialectic to confuse and steer the outcome in his debates...Like a conjuring trick! There are linguistic Tricks and Master Dawkins knows plenty of them btw
As long as science has no fundamental understanding of the nature of reality we will have these unscientific ideas put forward. It is not what science can do or explain it is what science cannot explain that is the problem! Science has no understanding of why we have a future that is always uncertain and a past that we can never change. If science could explain this based on reason and mathematics it would help replace these unscientific ideas!
Absolutely , i have experienced many things of a metaphysical nature. EVerything is happening in the 'now' , i have experienced mediumship that did not include cold reading or barnum statements. There is so much going on that most people can't even begin to realise or understand....
An artist theory on the physics of 'Time' as a physical process. Quantum Atom Theory it's because they're thinking in terms of time/motion but once you start thinking in terms of present/stillness this changes.
EDITED This is in reference to another Richard Dawkins interview of a religious nutjob who basically "cold reads" religious people. I'm not sure if that was your intention An artist theory on.... but well played ruclips.net/video/-AS6rQtiEh8/видео.html (edited again because I didn't copy the entire link and only posted half of it)
I had some experience of training for psychic development, I was interested in metaphysics.. Subtle energies we have not fully understood as yet, I was in fact sceptical. However, at the end of the course, I had experienced things that really were impossible to explain... No tricks! There are always charlatans but there are secrets in this universe we have yet to label. Keep an open mind I say!
That's amazing! You experienced things that were impossible? Why haven't you informed the world? You could be a billionaire within a year and go down in history as the person who found and proved the supernatural. People could study this and confirm without doubt that yes, it IS truly impossible. You could revolutionise out understanding of physics, humanity, and reality etc. Society as we know it would changed overnight. Holy shit! Or maybe you are one single person who is mistaken..... Hmmmm.
+Kevtb87 well, seeing as you asked....I believe it is inate in all of us. have a look at quantum physics and maybe the impossible is actually possible...I keep an open mind..that seems to be how we get to understand these things. I do recognise there are plenty of people who will lie and steal from others, but there are others that want to help by offering their well intentioned energies, which is pretty powerful.
@@kevtb874 What to see the impossible? Go and do a high dose of psychedelics. There, I've given you the secret to the supernatural and impossible. Let me know how it goes.
The barnum statements experiment / reading experiment Derren did just shows how almost-identical we all are. But yet people often think 'oh that's a me thing!', any time you think or do something you think is unique to you, you can bet that probably 95% of others think or do the exact same. So, even this within itself, if you know this, you could fake being 'physic' quite easily by just thinking of inner thoughts or fears or ambitions you have, then just say them to someone else like you know it's true of them, and it'll feel like you're reading them
i think that has ended now, read an interview with the amazing randi a while back where he said it was too much work to keep going. i think he has proved his point anyway
To me Richard Dawkins is like Robert Langdon from Dan Brown's novels: he takes all the myths, fears, misconseptions and unveils the symbolism behind them.
I worked out Derek Acorah's cold reading in the 1990s by recording his 'Talk Radio' shows with James Whale and analysing them. He did everything Derren talks about here and more. It sickened me that I knew that HE knew he was looking for a 'hit' all the time while the people he was stringing along were hurting and desperate for some comfort.
Where can I start in learning what Derren Brown does? (not in front of an audience!)? I have already read - Derren Brown: Tricks of the Mind, Derren Brown: Mentalism tricks. Please don't put a link to his recommended books, I just want a good "step-by-step" guide to some of his tricks, I also do not want to have to pay for anything so a website or downloadable .pdf would be great, thanks
From Non Sequitur: "The most accurate fortune ever told. You will be told what you want to hear. It will be so generalized that it could fit anyone. You will pay a ridiculous amount of money for it."
@jmann114 also, when i say "in their mind" i mean it in the sense that everything we experience in our living consciousness is experienced in our mind via our senses. so if someone who's heart stops on the operating table can see and hear what's going on around them all that means is that their brain hasn't stopped functioning due to the lack of blood being pumped to it.
@TonyLee1000 are you saying Derren Brown is not an internationally reknowned master mentalist (the parlor game-magician type mentalist ofcourse)? Then please mention some that are, particularly those I can see on youtube like I can Derren Brown.
Jimbo and Bubba were two blind brothers from a very rural small town. Their father died so they had to fly on an airplane for the very first time. Soon after take-off Jimbo tells Bubba that he doesn’t really believe he’s flying because “it just ain’t possible for no man to fly in the air!”. Bubba tries his best to convince him otherwise but without success. Suddenly the plane loses its engines! As the plane is going down - which brother puts on a parachute before he jumps?
@MountcastleFilms That's an interesting theory: everything is part of something larger. Talking about the video, whenever someone says something hurtful to you, though you may be strong enough to outwardly deflect it, the internal "hit" will penetrate even deeper. Talking to a good friend afterwards can help, but what we really need to do is to find the best friend inside ourselves so that we may break a negative thought pattern at its root.
I was looking at a different Internet Explorer window, and when I came back, the video was at 3:15, and I thought Dawkins was choking Derren. Hahahaha.
@The7thBeatle Science doesn't say that the universe sprang forth from nothing, it simply states that everything in the universe is moving away from one point, the point of what we assume to have been a super planet that exploded. Because everything in the universe was gathered into this point and was then randomly dispersed amongst the universe we can say that nothing that happened before that event has any relevance to anything that occurred afterwards, i.e. us.
Same way microevolution happens. Copying is not precise, and even the smallest detectable difference is enough to drive change when acted on by a selection pressure. How doesn't it happen? By what mechanism are random copy errors constrained, and to what boundries?
Off topic but as for the old Chicken or the Egg debate goes - Chickens evolved from non-chickens through small changes caused by the mixing of male and female DNA or by mutations to the DNA that produced the zygote. These changes and mutations only have an effect at the point where a new zygote is created. That is, two non-chickens mated and the DNA in their new zygote contained the mutation(s) that produced the first true chicken. That one zygote cell divided to produce the first true chicken.
a way to avoid the problem of simply inventing names and waiting until someone in the audience recognizes it, is if the psychic chooses a person beforehand and then says the name. If that is the case and if someone has seen that happen, the evidence is much more convincing.
The second half of the video where they're talking about people teaching others to cold read without it seeming like trickery...reminds me of how my my mom and grandma trained me to think that this sort of stuff was legit. They taught me how to do this, and I honestly thought nothing of it. Then I hit my teen years, started really looking at the world as objectively as I could, and started to form my own opinions. Scary how they didn't realize what they were teaching me.
@XGralgrathor Are you attempting to disprove evolution? There is not a single item in your post that does so... Specifying limiting factors does not disprove anything. That would be similar to saying that gravity is limited because it is much less effective on a human being outside of our atmosphere (virtually non-existent in the case of small masses at a great distance). So is gravity therefore in question as well?
@jmann114 "But the same could be said for people who insist they are just hallucinations." the burden of proof lies with the person claiming that it wasn't just a hallucination. "but the people who have experienced clinical death always come back with something to share. And it's not just abstract images/sounds. Some of them have reported and proven that they were consciously aware of what was going on around them." clinical death is not brain death, and nobody comes back from brain death.
« Are you attempting to disprove evolution? » No. I was responding to `mossinator`, why claimed that "with evolution, everything is possible", thereby in fact stating that the theory is untestable. Specifying its limitations provides a framework for testability.
@Mossinator5000Deluxe "As for a merciful, caring atheist, what would merciful God's judgement be? Not everything about Heaven, Hell, or judgement is black and white." I could use some clarification as to what you mean by your question. As for the second part I never alluded to the fact that any of those three things could be accurately described in words, but am I right in saying heaven is good and hell is bad? And you are sorted into those categories (good/bad) through the actions you make?
@jmann114 part of it? you mean on it's own the video isn't conclusive? i want you to provide solid fool proof evidence which stands up to scrutiny, do you have this? or are you wasting both of our time?
1:49 I would LOVE to see the 'reading' that he gave the people... to see if I can go into the street and hand these things out to random people (that meet the description or course) just to see their reaction
@jmann114 you've missed my point. howard storm was not brain dead, he didn't die at all. everything he experienced might as well have been a bad nightmare, there's nothing to say otherwise that isn't purely coincidental. clinical death is not death, it only retains the name because for a VERY long time people thought that if your heart stopped you were dead by definition, which you're not because your brain continues to function until it's deprived of oxygen.
@Cinqmil Derren Brown has said on numerous occasions that he likes Dawkins and is impressed by his work- so I doubt it was intentional :) In addition, Derren doesn't put much credence in NLP...
Barnum Statements: statements along the line of: "When life gives you a collapsed bridge, make bridgemonade!" or "I've been improving my vocabularium with a wonderful book..." Fable 2 anyone?
I like Darren Brown, he's used his talents for entertainment and this type of thing he could keep to himself. In the know, kind of thing, but he's explaining, exposing it. There doesn't seem a malisciousness about him.
@legion1a while i wholeheartedly agree with most of your comment... "Buddhism is alright, it is benign, and it is not evil." there's been a lot of violence involving buddhist monks in tibet, so i wouldn't let them off the hook that easily.
@Mossinator5000Deluxe I guess I'm somewhat confused by your reply, and this is an obvious product of the over-generalizations that we are both making here, but nonetheless...Do you not believe that there are essentially two places in which you can spend the eternity after life, presumably heaven and hell? I am under the impression that the bottom line of religion is "if you have faith in the deity, do what it tells you and you get to go to the good place. Do bad things, go to bad place." No?
Spiritual is a word that has never been properly defined. Even established dictionaries will tell you this. It can be anything from "feeling close to nature", an emotion anyone looking at a waterfall can experience, to believing in a deity.
Why would I go there? Do you really think the "King of tricksters" is going to say anything other than "it wasn't a trick?". He or his team are going to great lengths already to patch up things on the web. "Incriminating" links are disappearing fast; forums suddenly have eloquent support suddenly arriving days after the show has gone away? Why would people who are "happy" the show wasn't faked suddenly go looking for the doubters? No ... your post is intended for others who may have read mine.
The point is "scientific" facts can not been known with absolute certainty, because it is limited to observation, which can always change based on capabilities etc. Any physical theory is always provisional, in the sense that it is only a hypothesis: you can never prove it. No matter how many times the results of experiments agree with some theory, you can never be sure that the next time the result will not contradict the theory. But you can disprove a theory easily. (Stephen Hawking, 1988)
@jmann114 as a rational agnostic atheist, i do my best to remain as objective as possible and what you say about people rejecting what they don't want to see is something i find mainly with people who have irrational beliefs because they can't think critically about what they want to be true so much that it hurts. i on the other hand am completely open to the possibility of being wrong, when it comes to christianity however i'm pretty certain that i'm not because i know how it came about.
@tahshin1601 Yeah, Derren acknowledges that twitch in his book, Tricks of the Mind. If I remember right he said it developed because of all the hypnosis he has done. It is part of getting the subject into a compliant state.
@g00dm00sic clearly you've never read any of his books? he actually doesn't debate religious people anymore. i don't think he's ever attacked any religion.
Derren Brown and the Dawks in the same room at the same time? I wonder how the cameraman didn't suffer a brain hemorrhage from over exposition to awesome!
A meeting of two of my fave people in the world today. Sweet.
Really ? I'm guessing you're religious then.
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Why not, since there is nothing wrong with gay people.
David Thomas No, seriously, you sound a little immature. Why should his being religious (if your unnecessary guessing is correct) be any more of a problem than you being atheist.
Religion was a concept created by man to control other men. Nothing good in it !
kent2305 🤣
"Even if science can't explain everything, what makes you think religion can?" - Richard Dawkins
What makes you think it can't?
@@Conography how do humans acquire knowledge in general? With science or with religion? Just think for a moment.
@@LittleVboh why do you think science hasn't been able to solve the mystery of Consciousness yet? Just think for a moment.
@@Conography and religion did?
@@LittleVboh no, religion is, for the most part, a perversion of mystical teachings.
My two favourite people. Just needs hitchens there too
+Dougie “dougster701” Haggerty Sam Harris, while not as great as Hitch, does just fine carrying his torch.
+Ben Theredonethat
Yeh i do like sam too
We'll have to hold a séance and invite Hitch to join us ;)
Im sure derren could create that illusion!
i was delighted just now when i discoveered theres an episode on sam harris podcast waking up (spotify)that features derren brown, have fun!
Wow, I'm loving this.👍
Two great minds😊
When derren hesitates he does his little head nodding tick thing, so adorable :') They are both awesome people.
Nervous tic....
Why are there so many Dawkins interviews where they're standing the entire time?
Can if they want to.
I saw Derren Brown a while back in London, at his show infamous. It was brilliant, the way that many separate mildly impressive acts came together to make an absolutely incredible final 5 minutes. Great man.
i think this man is more of a psychologist than a magician
Quite a few modern sciences and professions started off as parlour tricks, electricity was seen as a parlour trick for decades before people started trying other things with it.
Brown is both. He did close up table magic originally. He is a highly intelligent and perceptive individual.
"I sense you're sitting in a bus going wrong way ... Or maybe ot is a relationship" :D this line made me laugh. Sounded like something you'd put into a comedy sketch show like Little Britain xD
saw this guy live tonight, spoke to him and got a picture with him too. Best live show ever, I seriously recommend it!
could have bought another camera for this interview
And some chairs wouldn't go astray too.
When 2 awesome persons meet :)
Very interesting interview.
Two very very intelligent people there!
I love how Richard is innocently asking for answers. And Derren is doing his best to be polite and avoid revealing mentalism/reading secrets.
wow great upload! An interview w a master of any field about his field is always a treasure to the curious mind!
Does anyone else notice that Derren has a head tic? I notice it in pretty much any video of him but never really hear any mention of it.
M111771 No?
Stephen Lynn You'll notice it if you know what to look for - just a tiny head nod at random times.
He's had loads of tics over the years, I think it's just a side effect of being a very meticulous person :)
+M111771 How the hell do you see a tic on his head? Is it on his left or right? Did he ever come down with lyme disease?
+Ben Theredonethat Speaking at a debate at Oxford University with the Archbishop of Canterbury,
the man regarded as the world's most famous
Atheist states, he is an "agnostic" and has never called himself the world's most famous
Atheist because he is clearly agnostic !
watch?v=dfk7tW429E4
P.s.
Richard likes word play he uses it like an hegelian dialectic to
confuse and steer the outcome in his debates...Like a conjuring trick!
There are linguistic Tricks and Master Dawkins knows plenty of them btw
great interuiew
:D Meme magic is real tho...
(and the funniest part is that dawkings make it possible)
Dawkins*
Love it, good sense of humor, it's a pity there isn't more of it on youtube!
Richard Dawkins + Derren Brown = doubly brilliant!! :) Thanks for posting this.
As long as science has no fundamental understanding of the nature of reality we will have these unscientific ideas put forward. It is not what science can do or explain it is what science cannot explain that is the problem! Science has no understanding of why we have a future that is always uncertain and a past that we can never change. If science could explain this based on reason and mathematics it would help replace these unscientific ideas!
Absolutely , i have experienced many things of a metaphysical nature. EVerything is happening in the 'now' , i have experienced mediumship that did not include cold reading or barnum statements. There is so much going on that most people can't even begin to realise or understand....
An artist theory on the physics of 'Time' as a physical process. Quantum Atom Theory it's because they're thinking in terms of time/motion but once you start thinking in terms of present/stillness this changes.
Sorry but your comment honestly doesn't make much sense to me.
EDITED
This is in reference to another Richard Dawkins interview of a religious nutjob who basically "cold reads" religious people. I'm not sure if that was your intention An artist theory on.... but well played
ruclips.net/video/-AS6rQtiEh8/видео.html
(edited again because I didn't copy the entire link and only posted half of it)
Woo Woo.
I had some experience of training for psychic development, I was interested in metaphysics.. Subtle energies we have not fully understood as yet, I was in fact sceptical. However, at the end of the course, I had experienced things that really were impossible to explain... No tricks! There are always charlatans but there are secrets in this universe we have yet to label. Keep an open mind I say!
That's amazing! You experienced things that were impossible? Why haven't you informed the world? You could be a billionaire within a year and go down in history as the person who found and proved the supernatural. People could study this and confirm without doubt that yes, it IS truly impossible. You could revolutionise out understanding of physics, humanity, and reality etc. Society as we know it would changed overnight. Holy shit!
Or maybe you are one single person who is mistaken.....
Hmmmm.
+Kevtb87 well, seeing as you asked....I believe it is inate in all of us. have a look at quantum physics and maybe the impossible is actually possible...I keep an open mind..that seems to be how we get to understand these things. I do recognise there are plenty of people who will lie and steal from others, but there are others that want to help by offering their well intentioned energies, which is pretty powerful.
@@kevtb874 What to see the impossible? Go and do a high dose of psychedelics. There, I've given you the secret to the supernatural and impossible. Let me know how it goes.
The late Colin Fry used this a lot.
This is brilliant. Cheers uploader dude.
The Richard Dawkins foundation lol.
Am I the only one who LOVES Derren's voice?
Deren Brown + Professor Richard Dawkins = Blissful Enlightenment
Nope, dead is dead, no conversation is possible.
two of my favorite people
The barnum statements experiment / reading experiment Derren did just shows how almost-identical we all are. But yet people often think 'oh that's a me thing!', any time you think or do something you think is unique to you, you can bet that probably 95% of others think or do the exact same. So, even this within itself, if you know this, you could fake being 'physic' quite easily by just thinking of inner thoughts or fears or ambitions you have, then just say them to someone else like you know it's true of them, and it'll feel like you're reading them
Yes, it was during a debate; although, for the life of me, I can NOT remember exactly which debate it was from.
Ohhhh yeah i've been waiting for this
i think that has ended now, read an interview with the amazing randi a while back where he said it was too much work to keep going. i think he has proved his point anyway
@TonyLee1000 "condemn themselves by there own tongue."
My tongue spells it "their".
We can spell properly.
Amazing. Why didn't I see this before?
To me Richard Dawkins is like Robert Langdon from Dan Brown's novels: he takes all the myths, fears, misconseptions and unveils the symbolism behind them.
I worked out Derek Acorah's cold reading in the 1990s by recording his 'Talk Radio' shows with James Whale and analysing them. He did everything Derren talks about here and more. It sickened me that I knew that HE knew he was looking for a 'hit' all the time while the people he was stringing along were hurting and desperate for some comfort.
Where can I start in learning what Derren Brown does? (not in front of an audience!)?
I have already read - Derren Brown: Tricks of the Mind, Derren Brown: Mentalism tricks.
Please don't put a link to his recommended books, I just want a good "step-by-step" guide to some of his tricks, I also do not want to have to pay for anything so a website or downloadable .pdf would be great, thanks
From Non Sequitur: "The most accurate fortune ever told. You will be told what you want to hear. It will be so generalized that it could fit anyone. You will pay a ridiculous amount of money for it."
@jmann114 also, when i say "in their mind" i mean it in the sense that everything we experience in our living consciousness is experienced in our mind via our senses. so if someone who's heart stops on the operating table can see and hear what's going on around them all that means is that their brain hasn't stopped functioning due to the lack of blood being pumped to it.
I love these two
@TonyLee1000 are you saying Derren Brown is not an internationally reknowned master mentalist (the parlor game-magician type mentalist ofcourse)? Then please mention some that are, particularly those I can see on youtube like I can Derren Brown.
Anyone can talk to the dead... They just never get a response because, well, they're talking to a dead thing.
Jimbo and Bubba were two blind brothers from a very rural small town. Their father died so they had to fly on an airplane for the very first time. Soon after take-off Jimbo tells Bubba that he doesn’t really believe he’s flying because “it just ain’t possible for no man to fly in the air!”. Bubba tries his best to convince him otherwise but without success. Suddenly the plane loses its engines! As the plane is going down - which brother puts on a parachute before he jumps?
@warriorprince1010
What were you doing during the time when the other kids were learning?
@MountcastleFilms
That's an interesting theory: everything is part of something larger.
Talking about the video, whenever someone says something hurtful to you, though you may be strong enough to outwardly deflect it, the internal "hit" will penetrate even deeper. Talking to a good friend afterwards can help, but what we really need to do is to find the best friend inside ourselves so that we may break a negative thought pattern at its root.
the camera made me motion sick!
I was looking at a different Internet Explorer window, and when I came back, the video was at 3:15, and I thought Dawkins was choking Derren. Hahahaha.
That is indeed correct, therefore I shall retract my last statement and say that my flaw could be my memory that failed me in my time of need.
they really needed a second camera
@AwakeIsland it's not that, its that its moving all over the place, why not just film with a wider angle lense or slightly further away... anwyay...
OK big shot, give it your best. How does micro to macro happen?
@The7thBeatle Science doesn't say that the universe sprang forth from nothing, it simply states that everything in the universe is moving away from one point, the point of what we assume to have been a super planet that exploded. Because everything in the universe was gathered into this point and was then randomly dispersed amongst the universe we can say that nothing that happened before that event has any relevance to anything that occurred afterwards, i.e. us.
@XGralgrathor My mistake.
I think they were referring to the sway and not the quality of image.
two great minds
Same way microevolution happens. Copying is not precise, and even the smallest detectable difference is enough to drive change when acted on by a selection pressure. How doesn't it happen? By what mechanism are random copy errors constrained, and to what boundries?
Off topic but as for the old Chicken or the Egg debate goes - Chickens evolved from non-chickens through small changes caused by the mixing of male and female DNA or by mutations to the DNA that produced the zygote. These changes and mutations only have an effect at the point where a new zygote is created.
That is, two non-chickens mated and the DNA in their new zygote contained the mutation(s) that produced the first true chicken. That one zygote cell divided to produce the first true chicken.
a way to avoid the problem of simply inventing names and waiting until someone in the audience recognizes it, is if the psychic chooses a person beforehand and then says the name. If that is the case and if someone has seen that happen, the evidence is much more convincing.
My two favourite personalities talking!!!!!!!!
The second half of the video where they're talking about people teaching others to cold read without it seeming like trickery...reminds me of how my my mom and grandma trained me to think that this sort of stuff was legit. They taught me how to do this, and I honestly thought nothing of it. Then I hit my teen years, started really looking at the world as objectively as I could, and started to form my own opinions. Scary how they didn't realize what they were teaching me.
This interview could have really done with two cameras, and possibly some seats - the camera movement is a bit distracting in places
Sorry, I am not english speaking, but are they saying "code" reading or "cold" reading?
@XGralgrathor Are you attempting to disprove evolution? There is not a single item in your post that does so... Specifying limiting factors does not disprove anything. That would be similar to saying that gravity is limited because it is much less effective on a human being outside of our atmosphere (virtually non-existent in the case of small masses at a great distance). So is gravity therefore in question as well?
@jmann114 "But the same could be said for people who insist they are just hallucinations."
the burden of proof lies with the person claiming that it wasn't just a hallucination.
"but the people who have experienced clinical death always come back with something to share. And it's not just abstract images/sounds. Some of them have reported and proven that they were consciously aware of what was going on around them."
clinical death is not brain death, and nobody comes back from brain death.
2 great brains right there. The ugly truth is better than an attractive lie.
Shop link is dead. Please update it.
@santosbl01 Bit harsh, I dont think anyone who isnt a DoP noticed. Thanks for that though. Are you the Jeremy Clarkson of DoP?
Look at the way Derren uses his arms and hands while explaining
« Are you attempting to disprove evolution? »
No. I was responding to `mossinator`, why claimed that "with evolution, everything is possible", thereby in fact stating that the theory is untestable. Specifying its limitations provides a framework for testability.
Cold reading and hot reading.
Remember hot and cold, the game you played as a child?
It was useful then and its useful to use that game to spot it now
@Mossinator5000Deluxe "As for a merciful, caring atheist, what would merciful God's judgement be? Not everything about Heaven, Hell, or judgement is black and white." I could use some clarification as to what you mean by your question. As for the second part I never alluded to the fact that any of those three things could be accurately described in words, but am I right in saying heaven is good and hell is bad? And you are sorted into those categories (good/bad) through the actions you make?
Quite. Thanks, it pained me as well.
I'm fairly sure it is you that isn't getting it, but why don't you explain what I'm not getting?
@jmann114 part of it? you mean on it's own the video isn't conclusive?
i want you to provide solid fool proof evidence which stands up to scrutiny, do you have this? or are you wasting both of our time?
1:49 I would LOVE to see the 'reading' that he gave the people... to see if I can go into the street and hand these things out to random people (that meet the description or course) just to see their reaction
Great... How do I change it back.
@Scousar Are you saying that zoology is not a branch of science?
Thank you MrCardShark101 for using 'thus' in your answer, you just do not see that literary splendour nowadays
@jmann114 you've missed my point.
howard storm was not brain dead, he didn't die at all. everything he experienced might as well have been a bad nightmare, there's nothing to say otherwise that isn't purely coincidental. clinical death is not death, it only retains the name because for a VERY long time people thought that if your heart stopped you were dead by definition, which you're not because your brain continues to function until it's deprived of oxygen.
@Cinqmil Derren Brown has said on numerous occasions that he likes Dawkins and is impressed by his work- so I doubt it was intentional :) In addition, Derren doesn't put much credence in NLP...
Barnum Statements: statements along the line of: "When life gives you a collapsed bridge, make bridgemonade!" or "I've been improving my vocabularium with a wonderful book..."
Fable 2 anyone?
not his foundation entirely just the million dollar prize, tried to find the article but can't remember where i read it. i could be wrong tho
my two favourite people in one video, lucky me
Honest man v good
I like Darren Brown, he's used his talents for entertainment and this type of thing he could keep to himself. In the know, kind of thing, but he's explaining, exposing it. There doesn't seem a malisciousness about him.
@legion1a while i wholeheartedly agree with most of your comment...
"Buddhism is alright, it is benign, and it is not evil."
there's been a lot of violence involving buddhist monks in tibet, so i wouldn't let them off the hook that easily.
@Mossinator5000Deluxe I guess I'm somewhat confused by your reply, and this is an obvious product of the over-generalizations that we are both making here, but nonetheless...Do you not believe that there are essentially two places in which you can spend the eternity after life, presumably heaven and hell? I am under the impression that the bottom line of religion is "if you have faith in the deity, do what it tells you and you get to go to the good place. Do bad things, go to bad place." No?
@Pianoguy32 Indeed. I wish they were sat down for this interview. Preferably Dawkins on Derren's lap.
@ReasonForThat
Humanity made it up to keep people in line
he's brilliant I want to meet this guy for coffee and a chat. when he does come to Australia that is LOL.
Spiritual is a word that has never been properly defined. Even established dictionaries will tell you this. It can be anything from "feeling close to nature", an emotion anyone looking at a waterfall can experience, to believing in a deity.
Why would I go there? Do you really think the "King of tricksters" is going to say anything other than "it wasn't a trick?".
He or his team are going to great lengths already to patch up things on the web. "Incriminating" links are disappearing fast; forums suddenly have eloquent support suddenly arriving days after the show has gone away? Why would people who are "happy" the show wasn't faked suddenly go looking for the doubters?
No ... your post is intended for others who may have read mine.
It would work exactly the same as normal cold reading just without facial expressions. Cold reading is mostly about the conversation.
anyone notice how Derrern Sharply nods his head quite a lot when he wants to confirm something he is saying.
The point is "scientific" facts can not been known with absolute certainty, because it is limited to observation, which can always change based on capabilities etc.
Any physical theory is always provisional, in the sense that it is only a hypothesis: you can never prove it. No matter how many times the results of experiments agree with some theory, you can never be sure that the next time the result will not contradict the theory. But you can disprove a theory easily. (Stephen Hawking, 1988)
@jmann114 as a rational agnostic atheist, i do my best to remain as objective as possible and what you say about people rejecting what they don't want to see is something i find mainly with people who have irrational beliefs because they can't think critically about what they want to be true so much that it hurts.
i on the other hand am completely open to the possibility of being wrong, when it comes to christianity however i'm pretty certain that i'm not because i know how it came about.
@tahshin1601 Yeah, Derren acknowledges that twitch in his book, Tricks of the Mind. If I remember right he said it developed because of all the hypnosis he has done. It is part of getting the subject into a compliant state.
Two legends.
@g00dm00sic
clearly you've never read any of his books? he actually doesn't debate religious people anymore. i don't think he's ever attacked any religion.
Derren Brown and the Dawks in the same room at the same time? I wonder how the cameraman didn't suffer a brain hemorrhage from over exposition to awesome!