Could you stop doing "noise normalized" crap so much? I am sure... virtually no one gives a flying damn. You spend SO much time wasted on that shit and the metric means nothing, there's so many factors into noise and shit that the standardized noise means nothing. You complain about standardized fan cooling testing to this date, but you keep going on about this noise crap.
Those provide a TON of VALUABLE info. Drilling right down into the efficiency of their total thermal solution. It's a good equalizer on a metric that is important and can also tell you when one box can push all the way up to 60db and get some better cooling in you can stand the noise
Hey Steve could you do a review for the Corsair 5000x. I know its just a little bigger than the 4000x, but some key things have chaged wich might affect thermals.
@@DeadChr0me IEEE 802.11802.11 is still the specification. WiFi 6 is the name under wich it's marketed, but 802.11 is still relevant. For example, 802.11aq is a standard that, although it will never have a wifi "number", exists on it's own.
so if im understanding this correctly you can flip the case to have the side panel on the right side. I like to keep my pc on the left side of my desk so this seems like a cool option.
Ok as much as i like this idea I found that it doesnt stay in an upright position like in a standard case. I dont want to call it ocd but it bothers me. So i might just get a bigger desk since i have the alex drawers from ikea. Still an amazing idea
Yeah, that's why I'm very interested in the lian li lancool 215. I think it would be cheapper for me to sell my case and get the lancool 215 then get a set of fans to replace the stock fans on the front of my TD 500 mesh
NF-A12x25 and Nidec Gentle Typhoons tend to disagree. These beat many 140's hands down. Not counting EK vardar because that's first tier garbo, at least it was when I had them.
bought this case, because i had the silent base 800 prior to that and it chocked my thermals. had a lot of fun building in this case. so. much. space. loved it. glad to see you guys gave it a good review.
Got this case for my new air cooled rig late summer last year ... I am very pleased. ... (R7 3800X, GTX1080) Mine came without the mesh front, just the solid one. When my components seem a bit hot I just remove the panel, works great. Tested out blocking these passive openings on the back and upper side, these tend to vent a crucial amount of heat indeed.
This is a really solid case. I bought it and put in 3x Noctua Chromax 140mm fans in the front and put the 3x Be Quiet fans in the top. I put another Noctua fan in the rear exhaust. I use the mesh panels and you can run the fans all on low speeds and still keep the temps very low even when gaming, benchmarking, video editing, I never have to run the fans on anything other than a low setting. There is a lot of room inside and I appreciate the top removeable tray and overall build quality.
This might be my next case - it can be bought with a solid side panel instead of glass (better noise absorption), I like inverted cases so that the gpu heat can rise up and out, and I can swap out the front and top panels between solid and mesh to tune the thermal / noise balance.
Bought it about a month and a half ago and this is hands down the best case for my rig. It's got one flaw only - the cut outs right above the PSU shroud, through which you need to route your front panel connectors, USB 2.0 connector cable or (A)RGB connector cable is too small (vertically) and pushing the connectors through it can be challenging. Apart from this flaw, the case is absolutely superb.
I have been waiting for this one, the case looks like a really good and versatile case, I might consider buy it for my next build once I have a GPU in about a year.
You have mentioned the possibility that closed cases may usefully dampen high-frequency noises a few times now. Have you considered doing audio frequency analysis on a few cases to test it out? This case may be a prime candidate, since it has both configurations. It could also be interesting to see which cases are best at dampening such noise.
I had the pure base 500 (non dx) as my first case. I got it super cheap and couldnt believe how much of a joy to build in. I recently got a p300a and it really put into perspective how much the little attentions to detail affect how enjoyable and easy the install process is. I really like be quiets stuff so hopefully they dont mess up their reputation like another particular company that makes cases
I got this case in white/black. It was such a dream to build in combared to my OLD corsair case. And my top mesh cover magnets are all solid on there. Must be a rare thing
Same here. Bought the case in mid-January, have been swapping the top mesh for the solid panels back and forth every couple days (trying to decide what I like better). No issue with the magnet adhesive.
The word “inverting” gets me excited because I am running an inverted Thermaltake Core X9. I did a small mod, drilling holes to put the “feet” on the “roof”
I brought this case about two months ago, and its been great so far. I’m really sensitive to noise so I always got silent cases like the Corsair 400Q or custom made foam for normal cases like an NZXT s340. I can say with certainty that this foam does reduce noise, specifically high pitched sound, things like VRMs and AIO pumps. It doesn’t do miracles, a noisy VRM will still be heard, but it is working for my current motherboard, a gigabyte b550 master, were its VRMs are always making tiny crackling noises. One thing foam doesn’t help at is fan harmonics as I like to call it. It’s where multiple case fans running at the same speed can “resonate” and produce a certain type of high pitched sound. This is always present in triple fans GPUs no mater the brand (I tried most of them). The reason I found for this is that the case itself carries the “resonance” so covering it in foam doesn’t stop this sound. The only option left is not using the fans at the specific RPM range where it happens. Now what I’m trying to say here is that the construction of the case also plays a role at the ranges of noise produced, and this case, the 802 has overall the best of all the cases I’ve used. Don’t take what I’m saying too seriously, like I said, I’m really sensitive to noise in a bad way, most people won’t notice this anyway.
Im kinda late, but there are little rubber plugs that can replace screws on most fans. I would try those out to see if de-coupling the fans like that reduces or prevents the resonance. Just google "Rubber fan mounts".
Dude that is crazy you can hear the VRMs. I think that is so interesting! Thanks for the comment, I’m not really noise sensitive but have never really thought about this being a major factor. I don’t give a shit if most people won’t notice it’s cool that you have found solutions to combat that
I'm working to build a new computer, but I am also sensitive to noise, and I don't suppose you would have any current recommendations? Asking three years after your original comment.
I would like to see thermal testing with fans installed in all optional places. Like that the full cooling potential could be tested. Most enthousiasts will do that and its also not too hard to do if you take budget fans
Just bought this case. Looks and feels very nicy. Then again I bought my last case 12 years ago... ...I believe a lot has changed since in case quality. I think I will use the mesh configuration for the summer and the silent configuration for the rest of the year. Anyway, thanks for the comprehensive review.
Huge benefit of the "shipping both panels" approach: consumers who are building a PC for the first time and don't know how much they're going to be bothered by noise will not have buyer's remorse and wonder what could've been had they gone with the other option. In my eyes, seems like a solid choice for people with money but without confidence.
Finally a review for my case, have been waiting a long time for this, personally i love it. Bought it back in november and i am very pleased with it. I built the inverted layout so it can be on the left of my desk, while still being able to look inside. (And yes it was a pain in the but hahaha, took me about 2 hours to do, but the end result is worth it) Ordered an extra 3 pure wings 140mm fans to fill it up. my current setup is 5x intake and 1x exhaust (yes i know), But it has great GPU airflow with the top fans blowing air right on the GPU. Also i agree on the magnetic strips falling off easily, one of mine was running right across the middle when i got it hahaha. Maybe a few things worth to note that did not make it into the features section: the case comes with a fan hub supporting up to 6 fans, removable filter running the entire bottom of the case, the little slider on top to change the fan speeds, this slider controls all fans on the fan hub, the removable top bracket for the fans; the rails for the screws to go in are pretty wide, the screws that came with my seperately bought pure wings 140mm fans are barely, just barely large enough to hold the fans, but they dont even overlap on both sides.
I have this case and its awesome. Installed 3 140mm Fans and using the mesh front and a 360 AIO in the top. Really good airflow and because of that everything stays nice and quiet even.
Including two font panels is an excellent idea, as personally I'd probably choose one or another depending on the hardware that is going into it. Being able to make the choice on the spot and change my mind later sounds fantastic. In my experience whether or not you'll notice the benefits of foam padding inside a case depends on whether your graphics card has coil whine. I'd even argue that for people who are really sensitive to it, that would even be one reason to go with a solid side panel instead of glass. Otherwise, yeah, nothing beats mesh front panels and unrestricted air flow to reduce fan noise.
The first time you guys showed this case in a video, during the best cases of the year I believe? I took a chance and just bought one. Very glad I did. Best case I’ve used/built in.
EDIT: I have been informed that he transitions to talking about the issue right afterwards. I apologize for my kneejerk reaction that has developed over the years of this side of the discussion not being mentioned. "It's easier to get balanced cooling and noise levels in a well ventilated case, by just turning the fan speed down." Unfortunately doesn't do anything to address sources of noise other than fans... If fans are the only thing making noise in your case, airflow is king. But my HDDs drive me nuts if their seek noises aren't reduced... And 12TB SSDs aren't affordable enough yet...
@@igel4056 Fair. Good that he finally started to include that stuff. =) I know it's petty of me, but over the years I just kind of zoned out whenever I heard that stuff, and seeing as the important bits of the video for my specific interests were already dealt with, I closed it. Since he has now started to acknowledge it I'll probably not get the same reaction anymore. =) Make no mistake, love the channel, they do the best testing out there, just this pet peeve of mine at times caused a bit of friction. =)
@@mgoogyi can you give a quick compare as I build a system for a friend in a 500dx and was quite impressed for it’s price. Looking to upgrade from cooler master haf922 and was actually looking at 900 rev. 2, but I am worried how the thermals will fair from my current case. How is the overall experience for you with the rev.1? Also how it fairs with noise different than fans?
@@gmdhighvoltage Overall it's awesome. The 500DX feels cramped and much harder to deal with cable managament. 2 HDD + 2 SSD + non-modular PSU Thermals are basically the same but I don't have a high end system and I have 2 additional fans. 8600k + GTX1070 3 SW3 on the front. Arctic P14 as the exhaust fan at the rear. And a SW3 120mm at the top end of the case. Noise is significantly better as one of my HDDs is an older model and was audiable in the 500DX but hardly is in the 900. Also I prefer the noise profile of the Silent Wings fans over the Pure Wings. In a few days I will get a 9900k. Pricewise the 500DX is significantly better, althought I have bought the rev 1 pro at around the half-price of a new rev 2 pro. Only downside are the screws around the special PSU bracket at the end. You have to remove 3 panels at the back to install the PSU. If you put back these panels with the screws and you happen to drop a screw into the case it will fall into the bottom part of it and it's a pain to get it out.
To someone who doesn't watch this channel a lot this review might seem quite mixed but for regulars on this channel it got almost the highest praises it can get lol
I was really interested of this case, but found Phanteks p600s on sale instead. I find it strange that there is still no word of that case, as I think it's the main competitor of this, and has been available for over a year.
Finally this is up! I already purchased my 802 and am waiting for its delivery but at least it feels good that all my research on it is proven accurate. I believe I will be happy with it.
Ohh I'm so happy to finally see this, it is exactly what I wished for, because since I planned to build a new computer I was constantly looking for case's but none ever really managed to look better than my Silent base 601 i was even prepared to settle for a Fractal design, Wich honestly is quite good i used one when building a computer for a friend, but it misses that tiny bit in quality and asthetics, and now finally a mesh silent base Case, man the only way to make this better would be one whit silver accents (they look absolutely stunning on my 601 but somehow noone else seems to use them)
That's funny timing, I got this case 2 days ago to replace my old thermaltake lv 20. One thing I'd like to add for anyone interested in this case is, if you're not looking for a display case, consider getting the non window panel. I examined both versions of this case at the local store, and there is an audible difference of noise reduction if you chose the non-glass version. That said, it does look significantly more bland compared to modern cases so at this price range I don't think many would go that way. Still, if noise is all you care about, mesh front and 2 side-panels with foam will give you that.
I dont mean to be mean, but have low level insomnia and have to tire myself out so much i pass out. However recently i watched the riast video and heard a line about falling asleep to your videos and it ended up working. Thankyou for this, ive gotten a lot better sleep since i've started to use this method.
0:07 wow that is interesting, it’s like it slides and comes out but if you don’t slide it doesn’t come out 🤯 Jokes aside, love your contents guys, I love how much time and effort you put into testing and videos to give us the information many people take for granted, keep up the awesome work
Not really jokes. That's the point actually. If you release a part on a be quiet case, it doesn't just drop out. So you can more easily hold onto the disassembled part.
@@ecpgieicg I know, I was pretending like it was something crazy as if something that was locked until you slide it was revolutionary then I said “jokes aside” because I was not continuing the joke of me playing dumb however as I’m writing this I feel like you may just be continuing the joke and I just look like a Pringle
I bought the 500dx after your test and I am more then satisfied with it. It is a brilliant case for a good price. Thanks. That one here is a little bigger then i need but I like it as well.
3 years later, i actually like having the option of not having a full mesh on top. Having 2/3 of solid pannel toward the front is something I really like. I know most people put their case under the desk or on top of it but when you put your case to the side of your desk when you have a smaller desk for exemple, I personnaly am scared of drop a glass of water or other liquid on to my desk table top and it flowing directly down into the case😅
Silent Base 802 is an all-in-one case, you can't go wrong with it. I switched from a mesh front case (BQ 500DX) to a non-mesh case (BQ Dark Base 900 Prov rev.1). I put the rear SW3 fan to the front and added a cheap but good Arctic P14 to the rear and my thermals basically the same with lower noise as I can't really hear my old HDD. So my conclusion is that you might be better with a silent focused BQ case if you have HDDs and not too much heat. Or just buy the SB 802.
I really like the design of the 802. It's not just a monolithic, featureless box. With the mesh panels, it kind of reminds me of the old Corsair Graphite 600T, which I love. I think it's between this and the PC 0-11 Dynamic for my next case.
Yup, I think the 802 I have on the way is partially because of the 600t vibes. Gonna miss the plastic lips that acted as handles for lugging the beast. What case did you go with?
I looked at this case when shopping recently. It ticked all the boxes, but I've grown to prefer the dual chamber design over having a basement. I was going to just get an O11 Dynamic XL, but I really wanted something that wasn't also owned by half the planet. I ended up with the Thermaltake View 51 and have been really happy with the case. I really like how the top of the inside of the case makes it extremely easy to route and hide cables.
I bought this case, because of your great case review video. I can say that this case is really silent and the temperature is very similar as mentioned in this video. I am very happy with the 802 in white. Its just fantastic :-)
I have a Be Quiet 800 case that i bought around 2015/16 and it's been brilliant, i don't think id ever buy a new case unless new tech required me to. Very quiet case and it has a panel that i can open to improve cooling if i play a game that taxes my system.
I'm a somewhat ideal target for this case as a gamer/recording engineer. Being able to swap from performance/airflow to silent operation with a quick panel swap and fan controller switch in a few seconds when tracking vocals or acoustic instruments is amazing. I wish more cases had this flexibility! When swapping to the Noctua fans did the case run any quieter at idle vs the stock fans? Were other fan placements tested? The stock fan motors are still too loud for my studio room even at 20% speed with the solid panels on...
Hey Pete, I'm actually in the same boat as you with this and have been testing configs in this case extensively after building a new game audio dev workstation. Right now, with an NH-D15 cooler (both fans on, Ryzen 5900x), two front Noctua NF-14 front case fans, and the included Be Quiet case exhaust fan, with some custom curves, I am able to get it to idle at an inaudible level. Under load it does get audible, but that's to be expected given how high the TDP of my chip is. If you use one with a lower TDP (like a 5700x) you should almost never hit an audible level on the fans in a similar config. I use custom fan curves to keep the fans at their absolute minimum speed until the CPU hits around 55-60 degrees, and while idling with the mesh front panel I'm hitting around 45 degrees, with the closed front panel closer to 50-55. Not amazing, but considering that there is zero fan noise and any additional noise (VRM whine etc) is being dampened by the case foam, it's acceptable for my purposes and I think you should be able to push your setup to a similar degree with some tweaking!
just finished my inverted build a week ago and i love it Gigabyte x99 gaming 5p i7 5820k, OC to 4.4GHz NZXT Kraken Z73 Gigabyte RTX 2070 S 32GB Corsair Veng. 2133Hz 500GB M.2
"as a case, it's one of the better ones we've looked at recently", I can't help thinking back to 2016 to 2018, not exactly as Steve said 'recently' however I was still thinking "that isn't exactly a high bar considering a few years back", lol. Granted it isn't a convection soldering oven deceptively sold as a computer case, and it does look nice. the attention to not being a screaming banshee is a very appreciated aspect given how much TDP they have been cramming into small GPU cards of late. I just think they could open the S-turns up a bit wider to let more airflow while keeping the sound muffling shape if they were not so concerned about dead space in front of the front fan mount. Great vid Steve and crew. B)
I needed a case that could be inverted so it can sit on the left side of my desk and got this case. I love it. It was fairly easy for me to invert and work in. I had a Dark Base 900 Pro in the past and had the extra hard drive trays on hand I needed. I went with the airflow panels and I'm really pleased with it's out of the box thermals.
I grabbed a TD500 after your review of it. I absolutely love the case! These videos are super helpful, I wouldn't buy a case unless you guys had done a review of it. Killer videos!!
It's a lot easier to understand the measurements in mm or cm, at least for people outside the US. It's good to see that more reviews are using SI units.
I’ve always liked the 801 because you can do really sleek minimalistic reverse orientation builds and not have a massive case like the 900 v2, but when I saw this a few weeks back with mesh I was sold. If I ever need to build a workstation with lots of storage and performance, this is my case.
This will be my next case it is perfect. My workstation has three uses, work, gaming and audio production. I'd have the mesh panel on most of the time, but when recording with a microphone I'd swap in the solid one AND turn the fans down. It is a really light workload while just recording and it should be fine. Nothing worse than computer hum in the background when recording. For those of us without the option of a dedicated studio setup this will be the next best thing. I guess it is a niche use, but for home based audio production it ticks all the boxes. Of course I went to see if I could get one and it was already out of stock. I really need to be faster on these things. Maybe not an issue as I can't get anything else I want for my new build either.
Could you do something like HW unboxed does with monitors? I mean sorts of "Best cases 2022" where you would cover budget, midrange and highend cases and present 2-3 good cases in each category? Such videos are super helpful for people picking parts for their new rigs as all the answers are in a single video. You wouldn't need to allocate too much time for each case from your list. Just couple sentences why it's good and provide link to detailed reviews for each respective case from your channel.
It's really rare to see Steve saying extremely good to a product that the moment I saw the title I can hear Steve saying "Fine cases to my collection" in my head
Your point about the cost going up a tiny bit because of multiple front panels: I gotta say I prefer that myself cause you can choose to do either or. More often than not (if ever) if a case is released, they don't offer different parts to make changes. It's just that, a ready case. You would have to modify things yourself. Now sidepanels are getting into that territory where if you but a case, you can later maybe by a different sidepanel (choices are metal vs glass usually but still, there's a choice). However you rare see modularity in cases where you have choice. Speaking of Fractal, they DO have some cases, like my Define 7 Compact, where you get modularity: The top panel can be either closet metal for noise, or open mesh for airflow. I just wish they included a meshify front panel cause i really wanted that case but it had "worse" IO on the front. That was basically it. It's hard to find the "perfect" case, even if, as you state, there never will be one. I mean subjectively perfect ofc. For me, I want this and this. To find a manufacturer who does every bit that YOU want is really hard. Another thing about the modularity: I'm looking for a metal sidepanel for my Define 7 Compact and had real trouble finding it (just extra glass panels online). I emailed Fractal and they pointed me to some german site that had a metal case but it was out of stock. Even something as easy as a sidepanel is really hard to get your hands on for modularity. This is where I'd have happily paid another 10-20 bucks for a sidepanel option so that when I want to change it, I actually can. Obviously just my take on it. Not saying you're right or wrong.
Finally got a new case (this) after 5 years of having my Thermaltake Chaser Mk-I, which by the way was a pretty good case, made my first initial ground up build in it that wasn't just modifying some budget mid-tower pc that was purchased from Best Buy or something like that. I felt it was time for a new look and something more suited to my current needs/tastes. Bought the Silent Base 802 about a month and a half ago and transferred my build to it, gotta say it's a great case, love it. Very modular and well built, lots of room to work inside, lots of fan mounting options and locations. The stock fans are great, though I did replace them with Be Quiet's own Silent Wings 3 fans. Really my sole gripe is since the foam is on the left side panel it makes cable clearance really tight, has to be almost flush as Steve said in the video, wasn't a huge problem, just be aware of that. That and after pulling the bottom hdd cage out and putting it back in probably 3-4 times now, the threads on the screws are basically stripped on a couple of them, which is surprisingly easy to do due to the way they're built, since they're floating the weight from the actual hard drives makes them sag just enough to make it hard to line up the included screws that stay in the holes on the cages, so just be conscious of that. All in all it's a great case and I like it very much. 8.5/10 would recommend. Also be aware it's big, like for a mid-tower, it's basically a full tower imo. I don't know what determines categorization in this instance, but it's only about 1" shorter, 2" less deep and 2" wider than the full tower case that I just traded for it.
Ive been buying silence-oriented cases for many years. Fractal, Be Quiet... And I wasnt able to get that perfect balance between temps and noise. Thanks to your videos Ive learned that playing with fan speeds in a well ventilated case can get you that balance much better than with a case full of noise dampening and airflow blocking panels.
Yes and no, i have Pure Base 900(steel side panels with foam) and it's really quiet, especially compared to my previous pc case of Aerocool GT-S(which is far far more open), both are about the same size, but Pure Base 900 is WAY better built, it's built like a tank, the only downside to it really is carrying it 2 floors down every year or so to remove the dust. Yes there are dust filters, but even with those you will have to clean the dust every couple of years, still far far less frequent than with no filters. The loudest component of my pc case is my sole HDD which is louder than all other components combined. So i have to get rid of it since i like silence. What i've picked up from using Pure Base 900 for about 2 years now is that, it is a good idea to buy a 4th 140mm same fan as the case uses, i forgot the name Pure Wing 3 smthing ?...And install at the top where the exhaust is. When gaming though, my gpu does crank up quite a bit, the difference is like a turbine turning on, so i will probably install a 5th fan in the bottom since my case doesn't have a PSU shroud, nor do i need it since i have no view into my case, nor do i want it. From my experience the best pc cases with normalized thermals with noise, are probably the ones with foam padding along with mesh. I couldn't care less about RGB and a view into my pc, especially since i had to leave my pc running when i went to bed several times, and i don't want a light show disturbing my sleep, and silence is important, it's hard to focus on a task if your pc is loud when doing basically nothing.
Yes! That's why it's so entertaining to tune the fan curves, because sometimes making it increase steeper might actually reduce the noise. One just gotta love it :)
@@alexmo1941 Yeah these kinds of cases are still kinda appealing for scenarios where you have a fixed level of noise, like hard drives. Not super heat sensitive stuff like that.
@@kiloneie my HDD(s) being too loud is actually what made me go full SSD sooner than I intended lol, nice to see others have the same problem. I got a Meshify S2 though, ironically with a lot of features you wouldn't like. I wasn't 100% sure whether I would like the temps in the bequiet case I would have preferred (plus it cost a little too much) so I went with something that would also keep temps as low as possible (in theory). Always admired bequiet cases and wanted one for the longest time when I couldn't afford a new rig, but in the end I got (probably a bit too) anxious about thermals. I have 2x 140mm Silent Wings 3 in front, 1x back, DRP4 in standard config. I think I succeeded in balancing airflow vs temps vs silence to my liking. It's nearly fully silent, despite sitting right next to me (which is why the HDDs speeding up were actually a problem). Either way, I only hear it when I have absolutely no sound on and make none either. CPU peaks at 56°C and GPU at 70°C at full load with (I think) static case+cpu fan speeds, so the noise it makes at idle is pretty much as loud as it ever gets.
I bought this case (non window). I inverted the tray, and made an airduct channel from the front fan to back, enclosing the Noctua D15 cpu cooler (inspired by IBM9xx workstation). Half of the duct is the PSU panels. Airduct addition lowers tempertures up to 10C (wrto 25C)) My motherboard (Aorus extreme) does not need cooling, and is very flat surfaced. Restricting the airflow on top of that lowers the noise very sifnificantly by forcing a more laminar flow. Then I tried the new mac pro trick of offset fan speeds, and now the case is virtually silent.
Having 2 options for front and top panel seems right in my head, haha. I know you are paying more for it, but its nice to have the option to swap the panels easily depends on the use in that time. My NZXT H440 tends to be closed most part of the year and/or when I go to sleep, and I remove the front panel (leaving only the filter on) in hot summer days or when I "need to use full power" of my hardware ;P Nice review. Pretty expensive case but seems to be on point.
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Could you stop doing "noise normalized" crap so much? I am sure... virtually no one gives a flying damn. You spend SO much time wasted on that shit and the metric means nothing, there's so many factors into noise and shit that the standardized noise means nothing. You complain about standardized fan cooling testing to this date, but you keep going on about this noise crap.
Those provide a TON of VALUABLE info. Drilling right down into the efficiency of their total thermal solution. It's a good equalizer on a metric that is important and can also tell you when one box can push all the way up to 60db and get some better cooling in you can stand the noise
Hey Steve could you do a review for the Corsair 5000x. I know its just a little bigger than the 4000x, but some key things have chaged wich might affect thermals.
It would be good to also have idle/low load noise levels shown.
Silverstone RL08 Review in the future mayhaps?
9:31 sorry for that, we just fixed it.
Thanks for the fast response!
you show good consumer interest by watching GN's videos. well done be quiet! i'm impressed
@@bradhaines3142 but no one comments on the videos 😊
Am using the silent wings 3 on my p500a 10900K 3090 build. Absolute beast. Convincing video on manufacture and test by bequiet convinced me
Are you going to sell mesh 601 fronts?
If this case doesn’t have an innate risk of fire, not interested. NZXT has shown the industry how to make cases exciting.
Same
gets your adrenaline flowing knowing that your epic gamer session could be so lit it burns your house down
Lmfao. Glad I own a fractal design
Bro your case is on FIYA! Literally
Maybe more should get into the personal computing fireplace market.
Steve finally found a product where you have to put the glue in yourself.
@@mikecorleone4469 totally agree on that, opening the door in summer is a bit annoying
So I can buy a great case and just wait 2 years for the other parts, it's a start.
Come on, not that long
Maybe 1,5 years
Thats fast, must not be a glass side panel
You'll be able to get parts in two years, but will you be able to afford them when the economy crashes?
Me with every part but the two rare chips I want.
Ironic, but I got my 3080 and 5900x before this case...
You don't see "extremely good" praise from GN everyday
True
Every time you say 802 I keep waiting to hear some form of the wifi specification... Why must numbers be so complicated?
The more confused the consumer the more money they spend.
I feel so ashamed to do it but... Ackchually... IEEE 802 is the general WAN/PAN family of specifications. 802.3 is ethernet, for example.
@@HariGtt Good info. Thanks for teaching me something! I had only ever heard of the 802.11 family.
@@DeadChr0me IEEE 802.11802.11 is still the specification. WiFi 6 is the name under wich it's marketed, but 802.11 is still relevant. For example, 802.11aq is a standard that, although it will never have a wifi "number", exists on it's own.
@@angolin9352 how about 802.11 Dynamic?
so if im understanding this correctly you can flip the case to have the side panel on the right side. I like to keep my pc on the left side of my desk so this seems like a cool option.
It's not to hard, here's a video showing how to do it; ruclips.net/video/zjK9PH80Iy4/видео.html
@@StephenCole1916 thanks i might actually get this case seems to be good for thermals but being able to invert it is awesome
same, really looking forward to this in a sale
Highly underrated feature. That's the only reason why my pc is on the right side of my desk.
Ok as much as i like this idea I found that it doesnt stay in an upright position like in a standard case. I dont want to call it ocd but it bothers me. So i might just get a bigger desk since i have the alex drawers from ikea. Still an amazing idea
Be Quiet listens . GN Listens. The community listens as well. Nice to hear GN reviews in considering purchase of computer parts :).
After using 140mm fans, im never going back to 120mm! 140mm is much quieter.
Yeah, that's why I'm very interested in the lian li lancool 215. I think it would be cheapper for me to sell my case and get the lancool 215 then get a set of fans to replace the stock fans on the front of my TD 500 mesh
Still depends on the fan design.
Arctic p140's are quieter than p120's
But
Noctua nf-a14 is not as quiet as nf-a12x25
@@ALifeOfWine the A14 and the A12x25 are two completely different fan designs.
@@GucciGamerTV Yup, that's why the first part of my comment said "Still depends on the fan design" ;p
NF-A12x25 and Nidec Gentle Typhoons tend to disagree. These beat many 140's hands down. Not counting EK vardar because that's first tier garbo, at least it was when I had them.
bought this case, because i had the silent base 800 prior to that and it chocked my thermals. had a lot of fun building in this case. so. much. space. loved it. glad to see you guys gave it a good review.
Got this case for my new air cooled rig late summer last year ... I am very pleased.
... (R7 3800X, GTX1080)
Mine came without the mesh front, just the solid one.
When my components seem a bit hot I just remove the panel, works great.
Tested out blocking these passive openings on the back and upper side, these tend to vent a crucial amount of heat indeed.
I love seeing companies offering airflow options for cases instead of just a solid panel.
This is the first BeQuiet case I like. I could see this sitting on my desk. Good job BeQuiet.
I've had this for ~4 months now. I've got no complaints. Looks great, sounds great (aka, is very silent), was easy to build in.
This is a really solid case. I bought it and put in 3x Noctua Chromax 140mm fans in the front and put the 3x Be Quiet fans in the top. I put another Noctua fan in the rear exhaust. I use the mesh panels and you can run the fans all on low speeds and still keep the temps very low even when gaming, benchmarking, video editing, I never have to run the fans on anything other than a low setting. There is a lot of room inside and I appreciate the top removeable tray and overall build quality.
BeQuiet is killing it in the case design.
NZXT is just killing it with thermals (literally)
This might be my next case - it can be bought with a solid side panel instead of glass (better noise absorption), I like inverted cases so that the gpu heat can rise up and out, and I can swap out the front and top panels between solid and mesh to tune the thermal / noise balance.
For me it looks really boring and ugly compared to other cases. But taste is individual of course :) Nice functions though.
@@soupwizard NZXT love making hot products 😂
@@soupwizard NZXT is killing People with its Casedesign!
Wasn#t that a good burn? Not as good as the burn of a NZXT Case!
Bought it about a month and a half ago and this is hands down the best case for my rig. It's got one flaw only - the cut outs right above the PSU shroud, through which you need to route your front panel connectors, USB 2.0 connector cable or (A)RGB connector cable is too small (vertically) and pushing the connectors through it can be challenging. Apart from this flaw, the case is absolutely superb.
Love this case! I’ve had it for a few months and it’s the best case I’ve ever had in my opinion!
I have been waiting for this one, the case looks like a really good and versatile case, I might consider buy it for my next build once I have a GPU in about a year.
yeah, in about a year 😂
Did you end up being able to get a new gpu?
@@XxXJOHNYB0YXxX no lol. I've given up now. I'm literally just gonna wait til 2023 and some new GPUs.
@@XxXJOHNYB0YXxX haha i just got my 3080 and using this case.
Bought this case on Black Friday last year. Couldn't be any happier with it. A very nice case, imo.
You have mentioned the possibility that closed cases may usefully dampen high-frequency noises a few times now. Have you considered doing audio frequency analysis on a few cases to test it out? This case may be a prime candidate, since it has both configurations. It could also be interesting to see which cases are best at dampening such noise.
I had the pure base 500 (non dx) as my first case. I got it super cheap and couldnt believe how much of a joy to build in. I recently got a p300a and it really put into perspective how much the little attentions to detail affect how enjoyable and easy the install process is. I really like be quiets stuff so hopefully they dont mess up their reputation like another particular company that makes cases
Your reviews are immensely educational. I would truly be lost without your videos.
I got this case in white/black. It was such a dream to build in combared to my OLD corsair case. And my top mesh cover magnets are all solid on there. Must be a rare thing
Same here. Bought the case in mid-January, have been swapping the top mesh for the solid panels back and forth every couple days (trying to decide what I like better). No issue with the magnet adhesive.
@@jglorioso434 i love it in all mesh, got my RGB shing threw the top, its so pretty
This case is a direct competitor to the Phanteks P600S so you should review that one next and maybe compare them.
Just got the P600S. Awesome case. Currys in the UK were selling it for 70gbp o.o
I second that, I'm still waiting for the P600S test, it's a very interesting one.
The word “inverting” gets me excited because I am running an inverted Thermaltake Core X9. I did a small mod, drilling holes to put the “feet” on the “roof”
I brought this case about two months ago, and its been great so far. I’m really sensitive to noise so I always got silent cases like the Corsair 400Q or custom made foam for normal cases like an NZXT s340. I can say with certainty that this foam does reduce noise, specifically high pitched sound, things like VRMs and AIO pumps. It doesn’t do miracles, a noisy VRM will still be heard, but it is working for my current motherboard, a gigabyte b550 master, were its VRMs are always making tiny crackling noises.
One thing foam doesn’t help at is fan harmonics as I like to call it. It’s where multiple case fans running at the same speed can “resonate” and produce a certain type of high pitched sound. This is always present in triple fans GPUs no mater the brand (I tried most of them). The reason I found for this is that the case itself carries the “resonance” so covering it in foam doesn’t stop this sound. The only option left is not using the fans at the specific RPM range where it happens. Now what I’m trying to say here is that the construction of the case also plays a role at the ranges of noise produced, and this case, the 802 has overall the best of all the cases I’ve used.
Don’t take what I’m saying too seriously, like I said, I’m really sensitive to noise in a bad way, most people won’t notice this anyway.
Im kinda late, but there are little rubber plugs that can replace screws on most fans. I would try those out to see if de-coupling the fans like that reduces or prevents the resonance. Just google "Rubber fan mounts".
Dude that is crazy you can hear the VRMs. I think that is so interesting! Thanks for the comment, I’m not really noise sensitive but have never really thought about this being a major factor. I don’t give a shit if most people won’t notice it’s cool that you have found solutions to combat that
I'm working to build a new computer, but I am also sensitive to noise, and I don't suppose you would have any current recommendations? Asking three years after your original comment.
I would like to see thermal testing with fans installed in all optional places. Like that the full cooling potential could be tested. Most enthousiasts will do that and its also not too hard to do if you take budget fans
Budget fans will make this case really loud
@@mannmanuel7762 no. depends on what speed you set them. also there are budget fans with premium performance (arctic p12)
@@sniper0073088 i already used the p12 and they are quite loud
@@mannmanuel7762 then you are not properly setting the speed
@@sniper0073088 well if you only use 30%of the potential, everything is silent. Good performance is when they are quiet at 80%
I love this case, no RGB and you can order it without a window side panel.
The white version is beautiful! I have one. Great quality, silence and a perfect fit!
Great product! I sincerely recommend!
Bought this case a couple months go for my new rig and emailed GN about doing a review for it. Love the video, and loving the case too!
Just bought this case. Looks and feels very nicy. Then again I bought my last case 12 years ago... ...I believe a lot has changed since in case quality. I think I will use the mesh configuration for the summer and the silent configuration for the rest of the year. Anyway, thanks for the comprehensive review.
Got this case with a silient loop 2 280mm for 250€. I love this case
Can't wait for the day where I will wake up and see "We just released our own case!" Oh boy that would be a really good day.
Huge benefit of the "shipping both panels" approach: consumers who are building a PC for the first time and don't know how much they're going to be bothered by noise will not have buyer's remorse and wonder what could've been had they gone with the other option. In my eyes, seems like a solid choice for people with money but without confidence.
Finally a review for my case, have been waiting a long time for this, personally i love it. Bought it back in november and i am very pleased with it. I built the inverted layout so it can be on the left of my desk, while still being able to look inside. (And yes it was a pain in the but hahaha, took me about 2 hours to do, but the end result is worth it) Ordered an extra 3 pure wings 140mm fans to fill it up. my current setup is 5x intake and 1x exhaust (yes i know), But it has great GPU airflow with the top fans blowing air right on the GPU. Also i agree on the magnetic strips falling off easily, one of mine was running right across the middle when i got it hahaha. Maybe a few things worth to note that did not make it into the features section: the case comes with a fan hub supporting up to 6 fans, removable filter running the entire bottom of the case, the little slider on top to change the fan speeds, this slider controls all fans on the fan hub, the removable top bracket for the fans; the rails for the screws to go in are pretty wide, the screws that came with my seperately bought pure wings 140mm fans are barely, just barely large enough to hold the fans, but they dont even overlap on both sides.
I have this case and its awesome. Installed 3 140mm Fans and using the mesh front and a 360 AIO in the top. Really good airflow and because of that everything stays nice and quiet even.
Including two font panels is an excellent idea, as personally I'd probably choose one or another depending on the hardware that is going into it. Being able to make the choice on the spot and change my mind later sounds fantastic.
In my experience whether or not you'll notice the benefits of foam padding inside a case depends on whether your graphics card has coil whine. I'd even argue that for people who are really sensitive to it, that would even be one reason to go with a solid side panel instead of glass. Otherwise, yeah, nothing beats mesh front panels and unrestricted air flow to reduce fan noise.
a new case enters contention for my next build (along with the Meshify 2)
The first time you guys showed this case in a video, during the best cases of the year I believe? I took a chance and just bought one. Very glad I did. Best case I’ve used/built in.
EDIT: I have been informed that he transitions to talking about the issue right afterwards. I apologize for my kneejerk reaction that has developed over the years of this side of the discussion not being mentioned.
"It's easier to get balanced cooling and noise levels in a well ventilated case, by just turning the fan speed down."
Unfortunately doesn't do anything to address sources of noise other than fans... If fans are the only thing making noise in your case, airflow is king. But my HDDs drive me nuts if their seek noises aren't reduced... And 12TB SSDs aren't affordable enough yet...
He actually points that out in his next sentence right after this one.😁 ( 19:58 )
@@igel4056 Fair. Good that he finally started to include that stuff. =)
I know it's petty of me, but over the years I just kind of zoned out whenever I heard that stuff, and seeing as the important bits of the video for my specific interests were already dealt with, I closed it. Since he has now started to acknowledge it I'll probably not get the same reaction anymore. =)
Make no mistake, love the channel, they do the best testing out there, just this pet peeve of mine at times caused a bit of friction. =)
That's exactly why I switched from the BQ 500DX to Dark base 900 Pro rev 1.
@@mgoogyi can you give a quick compare as I build a system for a friend in a 500dx and was quite impressed for it’s price. Looking to upgrade from cooler master haf922 and was actually looking at 900 rev. 2, but I am worried how the thermals will fair from my current case. How is the overall experience for you with the rev.1? Also how it fairs with noise different than fans?
@@gmdhighvoltage
Overall it's awesome.
The 500DX feels cramped and much harder to deal with cable managament.
2 HDD + 2 SSD + non-modular PSU
Thermals are basically the same but I don't have a high end system and I have 2 additional fans.
8600k + GTX1070
3 SW3 on the front.
Arctic P14 as the exhaust fan at the rear. And a SW3 120mm at the top end of the case.
Noise is significantly better as one of my HDDs is an older model and was audiable in the 500DX but hardly is in the 900.
Also I prefer the noise profile of the Silent Wings fans over the Pure Wings.
In a few days I will get a 9900k.
Pricewise the 500DX is significantly better, althought I have bought the rev 1 pro at around the half-price of a new rev 2 pro.
Only downside are the screws around the special PSU bracket at the end. You have to remove 3 panels at the back to install the PSU. If you put back these panels with the screws and you happen to drop a screw into the case it will fall into the bottom part of it and it's a pain to get it out.
To someone who doesn't watch this channel a lot this review might seem quite mixed but for regulars on this channel it got almost the highest praises it can get lol
I was really interested of this case, but found Phanteks p600s on sale instead. I find it strange that there is still no word of that case, as I think it's the main competitor of this, and has been available for over a year.
Watch the review on P500A, it's basically the same case.
What a great case, I'm glad BeQuiet entered this market and is doing so well. They seem to care about doing it right (a few small issues aside).
I just bought this case thx for review. The build quality is mindblowing can't wait to move gear from current chassy
Finally this is up! I already purchased my 802 and am waiting for its delivery but at least it feels good that all my research on it is proven accurate. I believe I will be happy with it.
Fuck yeah mesh! So tired of the solid panels fad. I thought we'd learned the airflow lesson in 2011.
1991
Ohh I'm so happy to finally see this, it is exactly what I wished for, because since I planned to build a new computer I was constantly looking for case's but none ever really managed to look better than my Silent base 601 i was even prepared to settle for a Fractal design, Wich honestly is quite good i used one when building a computer for a friend, but it misses that tiny bit in quality and asthetics, and now finally a mesh silent base Case, man the only way to make this better would be one whit silver accents (they look absolutely stunning on my 601 but somehow noone else seems to use them)
That's funny timing, I got this case 2 days ago to replace my old thermaltake lv 20.
One thing I'd like to add for anyone interested in this case is, if you're not looking for a display case, consider getting the non window panel. I examined both versions of this case at the local store, and there is an audible difference of noise reduction if you chose the non-glass version. That said, it does look significantly more bland compared to modern cases so at this price range I don't think many would go that way. Still, if noise is all you care about, mesh front and 2 side-panels with foam will give you that.
I dont mean to be mean, but have low level insomnia and have to tire myself out so much i pass out. However recently i watched the riast video and heard a line about falling asleep to your videos and it ended up working. Thankyou for this, ive gotten a lot better sleep since i've started to use this method.
0:07 wow that is interesting, it’s like it slides and comes out but if you don’t slide it doesn’t come out 🤯
Jokes aside, love your contents guys, I love how much time and effort you put into testing and videos to give us the information many people take for granted, keep up the awesome work
Not really jokes. That's the point actually. If you release a part on a be quiet case, it doesn't just drop out. So you can more easily hold onto the disassembled part.
@@ecpgieicg I know, I was pretending like it was something crazy as if something that was locked until you slide it was revolutionary then I said “jokes aside” because I was not continuing the joke of me playing dumb however as I’m writing this I feel like you may just be continuing the joke and I just look like a Pringle
You have to appreciate a company like Be Quiet!, when they listen to the end users.
I bought the 500dx after your test and I am more then satisfied with it. It is a brilliant case for a good price. Thanks. That one here is a little bigger then i need but I like it as well.
I did the same and im extremely happy with it.
I'd be very interested in the thermal performance of the inverted layout.
3 years later, i actually like having the option of not having a full mesh on top. Having 2/3 of solid pannel toward the front is something I really like. I know most people put their case under the desk or on top of it but when you put your case to the side of your desk when you have a smaller desk for exemple, I personnaly am scared of drop a glass of water or other liquid on to my desk table top and it flowing directly down into the case😅
Silent Base 802 is an all-in-one case, you can't go wrong with it.
I switched from a mesh front case (BQ 500DX) to a non-mesh case (BQ Dark Base 900 Prov rev.1).
I put the rear SW3 fan to the front and added a cheap but good Arctic P14 to the rear and my thermals basically the same with lower noise as I can't really hear my old HDD.
So my conclusion is that you might be better with a silent focused BQ case if you have HDDs and not too much heat.
Or just buy the SB 802.
I really like the design of the 802. It's not just a monolithic, featureless box. With the mesh panels, it kind of reminds me of the old Corsair Graphite 600T, which I love.
I think it's between this and the PC 0-11 Dynamic for my next case.
Yup, I think the 802 I have on the way is partially because of the 600t vibes. Gonna miss the plastic lips that acted as handles for lugging the beast. What case did you go with?
You guys working through the night. Thanks for the good work and dedication.
I looked at this case when shopping recently. It ticked all the boxes, but I've grown to prefer the dual chamber design over having a basement. I was going to just get an O11 Dynamic XL, but I really wanted something that wasn't also owned by half the planet. I ended up with the Thermaltake View 51 and have been really happy with the case. I really like how the top of the inside of the case makes it extremely easy to route and hide cables.
I bought this case, because of your great case review video. I can say that this case is really silent and the temperature is very similar as mentioned in this video. I am very happy with the 802 in white. Its just fantastic :-)
Almost bought this case for my new build. It looks great but for me I’m glad I kept looking. I’m in love with my new one.
this review made me buy this case and i don't have anything to complain about. got the white one though, it looks so much better.
I have a Be Quiet 800 case that i bought around 2015/16 and it's been brilliant, i don't think id ever buy a new case unless new tech required me to.
Very quiet case and it has a panel that i can open to improve cooling if i play a game that taxes my system.
I'm a somewhat ideal target for this case as a gamer/recording engineer. Being able to swap from performance/airflow to silent operation with a quick panel swap and fan controller switch in a few seconds when tracking vocals or acoustic instruments is amazing. I wish more cases had this flexibility! When swapping to the Noctua fans did the case run any quieter at idle vs the stock fans? Were other fan placements tested? The stock fan motors are still too loud for my studio room even at 20% speed with the solid panels on...
Hey Pete, I'm actually in the same boat as you with this and have been testing configs in this case extensively after building a new game audio dev workstation. Right now, with an NH-D15 cooler (both fans on, Ryzen 5900x), two front Noctua NF-14 front case fans, and the included Be Quiet case exhaust fan, with some custom curves, I am able to get it to idle at an inaudible level. Under load it does get audible, but that's to be expected given how high the TDP of my chip is. If you use one with a lower TDP (like a 5700x) you should almost never hit an audible level on the fans in a similar config.
I use custom fan curves to keep the fans at their absolute minimum speed until the CPU hits around 55-60 degrees, and while idling with the mesh front panel I'm hitting around 45 degrees, with the closed front panel closer to 50-55. Not amazing, but considering that there is zero fan noise and any additional noise (VRM whine etc) is being dampened by the case foam, it's acceptable for my purposes and I think you should be able to push your setup to a similar degree with some tweaking!
Funny, I was looking at this case for curiosity's sake the other day.
And bam! GN review popped up.
just finished my inverted build a week ago and i love it
Gigabyte x99 gaming 5p
i7 5820k, OC to 4.4GHz
NZXT Kraken Z73
Gigabyte RTX 2070 S
32GB Corsair Veng. 2133Hz
500GB M.2
"as a case, it's one of the better ones we've looked at recently", I can't help thinking back to 2016 to 2018, not exactly as Steve said 'recently' however I was still thinking "that isn't exactly a high bar considering a few years back", lol. Granted it isn't a convection soldering oven deceptively sold as a computer case, and it does look nice. the attention to not being a screaming banshee is a very appreciated aspect given how much TDP they have been cramming into small GPU cards of late. I just think they could open the S-turns up a bit wider to let more airflow while keeping the sound muffling shape if they were not so concerned about dead space in front of the front fan mount.
Great vid Steve and crew. B)
Steve, I need to go to bed....
Forreal
and Steve needs to keep them videos coming in
I bought the 500dx for my build late last year and completely love it. This one looks great too! Nice job Be Quiet!
the best case there is in my opinion. money well invested. once you go be quiet that's it... good review!
Greatly appreciate all the thought and effort you guys put into your case reviews!
Definitely liking a lot of the new trends with cases. Better airflow, better mechanical designs, etc.
Recursive QR Code was the name of my college nerd metal band.
Getting my new PC tomorrow. Can't wait for this beauty.
I needed a case that could be inverted so it can sit on the left side of my desk and got this case. I love it. It was fairly easy for me to invert and work in. I had a Dark Base 900 Pro in the past and had the extra hard drive trays on hand I needed. I went with the airflow panels and I'm really pleased with it's out of the box thermals.
I grabbed a TD500 after your review of it. I absolutely love the case! These videos are super helpful, I wouldn't buy a case unless you guys had done a review of it. Killer videos!!
It's a lot easier to understand the measurements in mm or cm, at least for people outside the US. It's good to see that more reviews are using SI units.
Omg the qr code in the manual segment is amazing content
Just in time. I've been looking for a new case for my build, GN just reading my thoughts exactly))
Literally 2 days late for me. Lol
Lian Li is the answer
I’ve always liked the 801 because you can do really sleek minimalistic reverse orientation builds and not have a massive case like the 900 v2, but when I saw this a few weeks back with mesh I was sold. If I ever need to build a workstation with lots of storage and performance, this is my case.
As a 801 owner its really great that Bequiet will offer the top and front mesh panels additionally and they are compatible to 801.
do you know if the 801 glass side panel oa compatible with the 802 case?
Fantastic be quiet Case and GREAT SERVICE CLIENT! 💛💛💛
Always appreciate your reviews.
This will be my next case it is perfect. My workstation has three uses, work, gaming and audio production. I'd have the mesh panel on most of the time, but when recording with a microphone I'd swap in the solid one AND turn the fans down. It is a really light workload while just recording and it should be fine. Nothing worse than computer hum in the background when recording. For those of us without the option of a dedicated studio setup this will be the next best thing.
I guess it is a niche use, but for home based audio production it ticks all the boxes. Of course I went to see if I could get one and it was already out of stock. I really need to be faster on these things. Maybe not an issue as I can't get anything else I want for my new build either.
Love the look of this case.
Could you do something like HW unboxed does with monitors? I mean sorts of "Best cases 2022" where you would cover budget, midrange and highend cases and present 2-3 good cases in each category? Such videos are super helpful for people picking parts for their new rigs as all the answers are in a single video. You wouldn't need to allocate too much time for each case from your list. Just couple sentences why it's good and provide link to detailed reviews for each respective case from your channel.
It's really rare to see Steve saying extremely good to a product that the moment I saw the title I can hear Steve saying "Fine cases to my collection" in my head
Your point about the cost going up a tiny bit because of multiple front panels: I gotta say I prefer that myself cause you can choose to do either or. More often than not (if ever) if a case is released, they don't offer different parts to make changes. It's just that, a ready case. You would have to modify things yourself. Now sidepanels are getting into that territory where if you but a case, you can later maybe by a different sidepanel (choices are metal vs glass usually but still, there's a choice). However you rare see modularity in cases where you have choice.
Speaking of Fractal, they DO have some cases, like my Define 7 Compact, where you get modularity: The top panel can be either closet metal for noise, or open mesh for airflow. I just wish they included a meshify front panel cause i really wanted that case but it had "worse" IO on the front. That was basically it.
It's hard to find the "perfect" case, even if, as you state, there never will be one. I mean subjectively perfect ofc. For me, I want this and this. To find a manufacturer who does every bit that YOU want is really hard.
Another thing about the modularity: I'm looking for a metal sidepanel for my Define 7 Compact and had real trouble finding it (just extra glass panels online). I emailed Fractal and they pointed me to some german site that had a metal case but it was out of stock. Even something as easy as a sidepanel is really hard to get your hands on for modularity. This is where I'd have happily paid another 10-20 bucks for a sidepanel option so that when I want to change it, I actually can.
Obviously just my take on it. Not saying you're right or wrong.
Me picturing Steve scanning QR codes infinitely in a loop until he either unlocks the secrets of the universe or is sucked into a void....
Finally got a new case (this) after 5 years of having my Thermaltake Chaser Mk-I, which by the way was a pretty good case, made my first initial ground up build in it that wasn't just modifying some budget mid-tower pc that was purchased from Best Buy or something like that. I felt it was time for a new look and something more suited to my current needs/tastes. Bought the Silent Base 802 about a month and a half ago and transferred my build to it, gotta say it's a great case, love it. Very modular and well built, lots of room to work inside, lots of fan mounting options and locations. The stock fans are great, though I did replace them with Be Quiet's own Silent Wings 3 fans. Really my sole gripe is since the foam is on the left side panel it makes cable clearance really tight, has to be almost flush as Steve said in the video, wasn't a huge problem, just be aware of that. That and after pulling the bottom hdd cage out and putting it back in probably 3-4 times now, the threads on the screws are basically stripped on a couple of them, which is surprisingly easy to do due to the way they're built, since they're floating the weight from the actual hard drives makes them sag just enough to make it hard to line up the included screws that stay in the holes on the cages, so just be conscious of that. All in all it's a great case and I like it very much. 8.5/10 would recommend.
Also be aware it's big, like for a mid-tower, it's basically a full tower imo. I don't know what determines categorization in this instance, but it's only about 1" shorter, 2" less deep and 2" wider than the full tower case that I just traded for it.
be quiet! is great. I've been using their power supply and I love it. didn't know they made cases. would get it if I'd try to make a new build.
I bought a 500dx a while ago. Its a godsent. Worth the buy
What an outstanding review. Extremely helpful, thank you!
Can't wait til you guys get around to doing the fan comparisons. Will be super interesting.
Ive been buying silence-oriented cases for many years. Fractal, Be Quiet... And I wasnt able to get that perfect balance between temps and noise. Thanks to your videos Ive learned that playing with fan speeds in a well ventilated case can get you that balance much better than with a case full of noise dampening and airflow blocking panels.
The irony of case noise testing is that the more you block airflow to reduce noise, the louder the internal components become as they heat up.
Yes and no, i have Pure Base 900(steel side panels with foam) and it's really quiet, especially compared to my previous pc case of Aerocool GT-S(which is far far more open), both are about the same size, but Pure Base 900 is WAY better built, it's built like a tank, the only downside to it really is carrying it 2 floors down every year or so to remove the dust. Yes there are dust filters, but even with those you will have to clean the dust every couple of years, still far far less frequent than with no filters. The loudest component of my pc case is my sole HDD which is louder than all other components combined. So i have to get rid of it since i like silence.
What i've picked up from using Pure Base 900 for about 2 years now is that, it is a good idea to buy a 4th 140mm same fan as the case uses, i forgot the name Pure Wing 3 smthing ?...And install at the top where the exhaust is. When gaming though, my gpu does crank up quite a bit, the difference is like a turbine turning on, so i will probably install a 5th fan in the bottom since my case doesn't have a PSU shroud, nor do i need it since i have no view into my case, nor do i want it.
From my experience the best pc cases with normalized thermals with noise, are probably the ones with foam padding along with mesh. I couldn't care less about RGB and a view into my pc, especially since i had to leave my pc running when i went to bed several times, and i don't want a light show disturbing my sleep, and silence is important, it's hard to focus on a task if your pc is loud when doing basically nothing.
Yes! That's why it's so entertaining to tune the fan curves, because sometimes making it increase steeper might actually reduce the noise. One just gotta love it :)
Steve literally says the reason for this is because other components can have coil whine or pump noise or hdd clicking.
@@alexmo1941 Yeah these kinds of cases are still kinda appealing for scenarios where you have a fixed level of noise, like hard drives. Not super heat sensitive stuff like that.
@@kiloneie my HDD(s) being too loud is actually what made me go full SSD sooner than I intended lol, nice to see others have the same problem. I got a Meshify S2 though, ironically with a lot of features you wouldn't like. I wasn't 100% sure whether I would like the temps in the bequiet case I would have preferred (plus it cost a little too much) so I went with something that would also keep temps as low as possible (in theory). Always admired bequiet cases and wanted one for the longest time when I couldn't afford a new rig, but in the end I got (probably a bit too) anxious about thermals.
I have 2x 140mm Silent Wings 3 in front, 1x back, DRP4 in standard config. I think I succeeded in balancing airflow vs temps vs silence to my liking. It's nearly fully silent, despite sitting right next to me (which is why the HDDs speeding up were actually a problem). Either way, I only hear it when I have absolutely no sound on and make none either. CPU peaks at 56°C and GPU at 70°C at full load with (I think) static case+cpu fan speeds, so the noise it makes at idle is pretty much as loud as it ever gets.
I bought this case (non window). I inverted the tray, and made an airduct channel from the front fan to back, enclosing the Noctua D15 cpu cooler (inspired by IBM9xx workstation). Half of the duct is the PSU panels. Airduct addition lowers tempertures up to 10C (wrto 25C)) My motherboard (Aorus extreme) does not need cooling, and is very flat surfaced. Restricting the airflow on top of that lowers the noise very sifnificantly by forcing a more laminar flow. Then I tried the new mac pro trick of offset fan speeds, and now the case is virtually silent.
Having 2 options for front and top panel seems right in my head, haha. I know you are paying more for it, but its nice to have the option to swap the panels easily depends on the use in that time.
My NZXT H440 tends to be closed most part of the year and/or when I go to sleep, and I remove the front panel (leaving only the filter on) in hot summer days or when I "need to use full power" of my hardware ;P
Nice review. Pretty expensive case but seems to be on point.
Steve tnx for another great case review, love your videos and wish you the best. Greetings from the Netherlands