BRAINWASHING spiritual organizations?My STORY at SOKA GAKKAI and BRAHMA KUMARI + analysis
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Talking about my experience with worldwide spiritual organisations Soka Gakkai International, Bharat Soka Gakkai and Brahma Kumari. Discussing the workings and practices of Japanese Buddhism organization Soka Gakkai or Bharat Soka Gakkai and Indian spiritual organization Brahma Kumari and examining whether they operate like brainwashing and dangerous cults.
#sokagakkai #brahmakumari #bharatsokagakkai #buddhism
Please let me know in the comments below what your spiritual journey has been so far, if you are into it.
Thank you so much for pitching in with your experiences and opinions. UPDATE on my spiritual journey. Click to watch ruclips.net/video/WkdkIWYhF00/видео.html
Did you read quran
Even me too suffering because of isha foundation in Coimbatore. Thay have traping people with occult practices, they became openly saying about occult with close circles.
It will be helpful to me Is thare anything you can help in process of healing.
Because it's controling over my senses, organs, and various ways
your understanding is wrong, yes they loot your physical wealth and then they live in luxury, but there is no praying in their concept. About the father and love which is true, if a child does not love his father and goes his own way then the father gives priority to the loving son. There are fathers killing sons and sons killing fathers these days for inheritance. Nobody is equal which I agree in the caste system or modern system there is a manager CEO and cleaning job. But the issue for me is that there is no spiritual power in Brahma kumari or its splinter group. And waking up in the morning should not be a problem if you have a clear mind. But this organization makes your mind fill with confusion and you lose your sleep. There is no supreme soul it was just a lie if there is then we should feel it and it should make our minds happy joyful and peaceful. Which never happens actually our mind becomes the opposite is true
@@reddypulavari8953 sorry to hear that. I made a video on healing recently, please watch ruclips.net/video/giynZjD__fE/видео.html
Congratulations on beating beaten by Sansho Shima. ONe of the first things I learned about when I started chanting and received my Gohonzo in 1976. I am age 76 . Long live SGI and Presiden Ikeda.
Like u I was the last person on earth to believe in god due to scientific research etc. But until I have own experience related to God and Bhram kumaris. I don't know about others but Meditation with Bram kumaris have opened my spiritual path. Hope you also experience ultimate peace and happiness in life.
Thank you :)
Do you believe in God???
@Bansal you are brainwashed
BKs believe history is only 5000 years old which is very questionable give archaeological and social evidence that now goes back at least 10 thousand years. Any one else aware of these two things ? Bk and history .
I started chanting in 2004 and I loved the philosophy and life style. My biggest issues became how a lot of the members were not accurately living the Buddhist way. I only got calls from ppl to tell me about meetings, whereas one is supposed to form bonds of friendship. I can't imagine ikeda sensei handing out cards to "plant seeds" which is what the members do. That's not my style. I don't like organized religion. I don't like being told what to do. There is way too much talk about getting new members, rather than focusing on the ones who are already there! I hate "member care" meetings which I feel are an invasion of privacy... Or slander... It is the heart that is important yet this is not what I am seeing! I also feel that people are not given educated advice but rather advice that can be harmful! We are not supposed to just chant without taking action, which includes finding the right doctor! I really hope we can reform this organization from within bc there is def a lot of corruption going on with the higher ups! 😢 If u actually read the writings, it's all there! So frustrating! Thank you for sharing your experience. 🙏
oh my gosh....... I can't believe I have been practicing this. I have always thought weird things about the practice but thought that made me a bad Bhuddist. I am processing a lot right now...
HI, Well, though Nichiren Daishonin formerly founded this sect in the 13th century, the SGI got a huge boost in membership after the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They started doing door-to-door, and in like a few months they raised their membership to one million. As such, this is how Japanese society functions. This is how they have men’s gymnastics, jazz band, etc.
I know that Kosen-Rufu is a popular theme and an important belief for the SGI but think of this, world peace=Kosen Rufu…they believe that if everyone chants, gets a Gohonzon, then we can achieve world peace. the fact is that we will never achieve world peace-let us be honest, and less delusional. But even if we believe this is possible or not, it is not a bad idea. But world peace is not and never was a goal of the Buddha.
Buddhism is not about collective wold peace, it is about individual awakening. Now, do you think any SGI people anywhere ever considered that idea, in any way? probably not-but I have. And the reason I have is not because I am an intellectual, or have a great IQ-I am in fact average-maybe below average. I hate math, I have a hard time with directions, etc. The reason I think about it and talk about it is because I am. Buddhist, and a monk, who loves Dharma, and I know-even with just a bit of studying Dharma, that it is not about world peace.
In addition, peace and happiness are not Buddhist goals. Buddhism says suffering is what you will know. The Four Noble Truths. We should not aim for Happiness but realization.
What are "member care" meetings? Do you talk about what's going on in other members' lives and families without them knowing?
@@Student____2025__1 yeah that's kind of what it was. Each group had a leader who would discuss who in their group needs to be "checked-on." They meant well but I felt they should keep it more casual instead of looking at members as numbers.
@@hannahmech9443 I wish you well. It was a rude awakening for me but I have been branching out and doing well on my own while still keeping in touch with members whom I consider friends. 🙏
Thanks Oindrila. I visited one SGI monthly event in New Zealand. So I'm guessing that a lot what you report depends on the local chapter. People show transformations, but there was nothing about recruitments. The local community leader showed some pictures about a new centre and that's it. In fact, I had to email and call the the organisation three times when I wanted to attend. Then got a friendly response after several days. When I came in community centre there was a father-son band of Indian immigrants playing Foo Fighters. They sang nmhrk and had coffee afterwards. I got invited to a smaller district chapter - because I was asking whom I could reach out to. No-one is chasing me, no-one is spamming my email or messenger apps. We'll see how it goes. The second I feel that I'm getting into a cult or church, I'm out.
You are very correct. I started practicing Buddhism in Eugene, OR and it was so beautiful and peaceful. When I returned to California, specifically the San Francisco Bay Area, I found alot of pressure to Recruit, Purchase and more. It reminded me of my experience growing up with Jehovah's Witnesses. Exact same business model as well.
It is so refreshing to see a person looking at life with eyes and heart wide open. The fact that you could see the good and bad of each organization, and that you compared your own personal beliefs, with those being offered, instead of blindly following, demonstrates what a spiritually healthy human being you are. While you offered your observations, and shared why they weren’t a suit for you, you never put down its followers. Here in the United States, people tell their children to behave, or else Santa will not bring them gifts. This is not bad, or negative, but eventually those children grow up and hopefully by then, they will no longer need Santa to put them in check, but will instead have developed their own moral compass, to keep their actions in check. I can see you are one of those people, you do the right thing out of its own virtue, and not because someone is threatening you with the loss of heaven or anything else.
Thank you!
Thank you for validating my thoughts at a time when I needed it.
Thanks for your refreshing take on SG! I was in the process of a long commentary when RUclips’s AI stopped me and took it down.
I’m trying again here. I was initiated into Buddhism in Nepal about 45 years ago. I studied and meditated at a Tibetan Buddhist monastery there for one year and participated in about 2 or 3, 30 day retreats. I also explored Vipassana, the practice of southeast Asian Buddhism. And there’s more, but I won’t get into it here. I’m probably about the age of your grandparents so suffice it to say I have quite a bit of experience under my belt.
I totally get why you find something that’s so restrictive (and more), so difficult to practice in “real” life. Further, until recently, all the people I’ve met here in the states, who follow SGI, seem to be focused on the material which is NOT the path of the Buddha. Last year a friend of mine told me he’s been involved in this. Based on his actions and the positive, loving changes I’ve seen in him, I decided to give this a second look.
In my opinion the bottom line is one’s INTENTION, not how long you chant or any of the other things you’ve been told. Also, I do not discount the teachings of other thought systems.
You’ve mentioned “Autobiography of a Yogi”. Even if you don’t practice I think it’s good to read that. Here are a few others, some from your culture: “The Rosicrucian Doctrine”, “The Dead Sea Scrolls” if you can find an accurate translation, “The Bhagavadgita”, “The Mahabharata”, “The Upanishads”, and more.
The world is waking up and there are many emerging thoughts. If you’d like to communicate through email let me know and I’ll share my ideas. I’m only scratching the surface here. Mostly, do NOT give up! Keep exploring until you find something that resonates with you.
May All Beings be Happy! May All Beings be Peaceful!. May All Beings Attain Enlightenment as Quickly as possible!
Yeshe
I left the bk 13 years ago. I join them in two counteries. In the end i felt something off and i felt it was taking me away from my real life.I didnt have an unpleasant time with them ,they are good to me. I was going through a rough time so belonging to them made me forget my problems. It was a cult now that i think about it more.
It’s not cult it’s the law and also during Nichiren’s time there was no meeting or any organisation he only chanted and wrote letters to his disciples.Believe in the law and chant that’s it.
@@subhasreepaul1The organization is the cult. The practice is the real deal. The power of the Gohonzon and Daimoku is real. We should be putting our faith into the Gohonzon, not Daisaku Ikeda. SGI practices acrimony and hero worship.
Brahms Kumari's are totally suspicious. they wear these white outfits to simbolise purity. They wake up at 4 every day to meditate. Also , they believe in BABA (the supreme god) and believe in past lives and Karma account. I do believe there practice is unsettling. I'm glad I've challenged this thought process and can now step away from such nonsense. why would I support and institute with billions of dollars in assets who are always asking for donations.
I left six years ago they are so manipulative
@@subhasreepaul1 if its not a cult then why are they closing their centres ? what is the need to destroy phone numbers and email ids ?
Hi there, I practice Nichiren Buddhism, I have come across annoying people too in this practice however my thinking is we should not care how people treat us because they are also in the process of becoming buddha , no one is perfect and whoever is practicing this philosophy also have weaknesses on which they are working. So i would not go for how the people are behaving, i would look upon our mentor Daisaku Ikeda , how he behaves and follow him.
I have been there, I am also practicing for 8yrs now. I saw some members trying to compete with other districts and sort of pressurised other members to introduce new guys but it became very cringy. Chanting has a lot of energy I saw some very young kids into this practice right from their adolescence age which I felt was forced. I might put myself into trouble as well😅😅😅😅. But on a broader perspective if you are into any religious practice which brings you peace and wisdom then there is no way you can force and push them just to increase your number. I have seen couples go through breakups and divorces a lot when they start to impose such things onto others. Moreover this practice makes you realise that having hope in the tough times makes you persevere through those tough times. Thank you for bringing this video up in the end every thing has their pros and cons it’s up to you what is best for you.
@@wwegggghhh yeah it's going well in UK.
@@wwegggghhh we had our discussion meeting last week. My first ever in UK. It was great as well.
I feel sorry for you, you're being bamboozled by the organization. You need to chant hard to see the true colors of who these people in the organization really are. The organization is a pyramid scheme and is very controversial and they engage in acrimony, hero worship and swindling money from people. Save yourself, take your Gohonzon and stay far from them. If they are practicing true Buddhism, they shouldn't be worshipping Daisaku Ikeda and slandering anyone including the priesthood during their entire meetings. When you lose your Gohonzon, trust me you will see their true colors.
You are brainwashed. Get out of the SGI!!!
Mentor (noun): an experienced and trusted counselor or adviser.
Have you ever had a single conversation with your "sensei" Daisaku Ikeda? Does he know your name? Does he know your problems? Can he provide you with counseling or advice when you need it? If no, how can there be a true mentor-disciple relationship?
True!
This mentor n disciple relationship is a way to build fear in you n other members. Many leaders will tell u that if u dont take Ikeda as your master, you will never achieve enlightenment. This really puts me off.
And yet, sgi members will come up with all sorts of preset defences programmed by their leaders to justify not having an actual person-to-person relationship with their “sensei”!
@@sebastiaoedsonmacedo7950 Their mental gymnastics are amazing...
I have a friend who recently tried to leave Sokka Gakkai and she was harassed so badly she had to change her home, job, phone number, etc. They demanded money from her and demanded she come to group meetings even though she was suffering financially and was not well enough to leave the house. They also harass other religious organizations. i was working for a Christian school in Japan that had constant police calls over trivial matters by Sokkagakai members. They started harassing the children by shouting at them for even looking at a flower over the fence into his garden. The police took our side and got in touch with other family members who came and apologized to us, saying that they all left Sokkagakai because they were teaching the members to behave this way.
Thanks for sharing. This behavior seems rather aggressive.
WHAT??? Buddhist members in the US do not shout at children. The Soka Gakkai in AMERICA encourages children & Adults to challenge negativity (including these ridiculous comments) in their lives. I was taught to follow the law - not the person. So, if you are ATTRACTING negative people to your life - you need to take a long, hard look at YOU. It can't be EVERYBODY ELSE. If you studied Buddhism, you would know that
@@Maria-rs9sd This is what scammers like you do. Gaslight others when it's your cult that's full of garbage.
@@Maria-rs9sd if you follow the law then don’t worship Daisaku Ikeda. Soka is not practising Buddhism but ikeaism.
It can never happen. SGI never demands for money. Share your personal experience not your friends. How do u know it was for money and not for anything else. Please stop spreading such messages.
Hi Oindrella on the outset I can understand your personal experience with the leaders of SGI. A lot of the members, globally, have issues with leaders and I personally may have had a few, but in time I learnt that when my own life-condition was low, I very readily found fault in others and blamed them for my unhappiness. This went against my own practice of compassion and I had to pull myself together to come back on track. However, the bottom line is asking ourselves "Am I following the Law or the persons?" At the end of the day, each one of us is here to transform our own karma without having to slander others just because we have grievances against their behavior or whatsoever reason there may be. For me, not only chanting Nam-myoho-renge-kyo is crucial, but delving deep into the Buddhist concepts and studies as well. Above all, doing my own human revolution is of utmost importance to me. It all depends on how strong one's faith is and how far can one go to win over oneself. Simply hopping from one organization or another or seeking new avenues to seek true happiness isn't the answer, certainly not for a person who is determined to find the true path. Having solid conviction and a never-give up spirit helps us through the journey of life.
Respectfully, each of us are here to become absolutely happy with a spiritual sense of appreciation for our lives, but for that we need to look deep within ourselves. I hope you find your true path, whichever route you may take, please be absolutely happy. Stay blessed 🙌🏼
Agree! The day we discover the truth within the depths of our own lives, we will see no difference between ourselves and others. 🌸 Best wishes!
Totally agree with you Bina .
When you connect with the person and not the law it is deluding !
not a big fan of theory of "low life condition" because that in itself denotes a hierarchy of high and low and invariably shifts the responsibility to the member when things don't work out. I think the member and the organization co- create at the minimum so I respectfully disagree.
Oindrila, it's sad that who ever have mentored you regarding thus practice or whatever impression you have imbibed of this practice is totally haywhile and not based on any strong footings of the claim you make .I am very new to this practice and trust me I feel that I have not yet been practising this law in the truest sense .I mean , I miss chanting for what so ever reason , and even if I do I don't chant for hours ( what I mean is I am not a very old practitioner with tons of knowledge about this practice ) .The point I am trying to.make is or I want to ask you is have you ever read the concept of the law , or the topics on which the meetings are held , Do you find it presumptuous ?? I am just one year in this practice and like I mentioned that I have not been practicing in the most dedicated form but keeping a very rational mindset and looking at it from a very neutral point of view , this practice is trying to imbibe a certain level of decipline in us that us why it tells us about the regularity of chanting , the meetings and all the study materials , books have a very independent view on changing our mindset , develop compassion and have a positive outlook towards right .My senior in faith even tells me that if you can chant for 5 Mins with the truest heart , this practice helps , nowhere and no one has taught me that you have to chant for hours and hours .It's about the quality more than the quantity.
Never have I have seen they have pressurized any member on mandatory monetary contribution or forcing any member to join the practice or attend study meetings
It's absolutely free will and most importantly how much we can be helpful towards our surroundings and environment more than thinking about our ownselves is what the law talks about .
This practice is absolute free will
I get that you are voicing your views as we are in a democratic country and we are absolutely free to opine on some thing. I am sincerely glad some other path have help you grow your spiritual path .The only point I am trying to make is less not judge a Brahma Kumari or a Sgi without knowing the actual essence or maybe from a one sided point of view .Even though we are free the voice our thoughts, we need to have some amount of credibility and be factual when we are making a point .That tantamount to the meaning of the word " Sensible " .So good luck and God Bless .
@@nilanjanabagchi5799 are you implying I didn't provide facts?
I was only able to scape this cult because an extreme situation forced me to: the National leader of Men’s division in the US list his cool with me challeging his claims and called me an “asshole” in front of two other local leaders. Then, when I told this to my ex-“friends” members, NO One believed me and blamed me for not seeing the human limits of that fake leader! It’s all bs. If you don’t think so because your experience tells you otherwise, that is in itself an exemple of how no matter what happens, they do not care about your experience but only about theirs, which is exactly what makes this a cult.
I'm sorry to hear that. They're definitely a cult. I remember when I lost my Gohonzon during a move it was like an interrogation tactic they used on me. They told me I had to attend meetings and shakabuku people. They also do a lot of hero worship with Daisaku Ikeda. Protect yourself, take your Gohonzon and go. The only blessing I got from the organization was receiving my Gohonzon. The chanting itself works, you don't need SGI, they are not who they say they are.
When differences of opinion arise the SGI leaders resort to name-calling, and then pretend they're virtuous, the definition of a tyrant. The SGI leaders are always right and any different opinion from a member is wrong and deserves punishment. The SGI is strangely not Buddhist at all.
I had a relative who frequented Brahma Kumaris. When I read about their murders and when Hindus told me to get him out, I told my relative to run away from it.
Murders? Oh my!
What murders? At least say specifically and clearly what you are saying!
@@indiangirl4081 You can search it for yourself
My sister recently died under very mysterious circumstances
I follow whatever brings more peace, joy and equality to this beautiful world. That's why I do believe in God and the way of finding God. God as the LIGHT and source. That's why I feel real when I go to BK centers in Colombia and when I meditate. If peace is the ultimate goal, what else would I'll be wanting?. Found it, live it. 🙏 For it. There's millions of people whose as myself have experience it. Good life girl.
Hello ur from Colombia om shanti
Absolutely, I love BK Shivani's videos too. Do check her out if you have not.
I am currently in Soka Gakkai (born into the practice). I have recently been told that I "can't quit" because of Soka Gakkai behavior by leaders. Coming from someone who has considered the members to be family for decades, to say that leaving is difficult is an understatement. I thank you for your video. It takes a LOT of courage to be a whistle-blower when you are up against a machine.
Do you mean you wanted to quit because of the behavior of some SGI leaders? I did not intend to blow the whistle, only share something I perceived and that I did not see reflected anywhere else.
@@oindrilabhar thank you. I appreciate your video. You are so brave to share this. No I'm not leaving, because I know that leaving can be hard. And yes I do believe that leaders are disrespectful toward members.
When you say you didn't see these "reflected anywhere else", do you mean in other practices? Or on RUclips about SGI?
@@MayaBee3 I meant RUclips
@@oindrilabhar ok yes that makes sense. Who do you practice with now?
Brother Sarma is telling more about BK life. Some souls might not understand Brahma Kumaris, but it is really the differentiation between the Soul World and the Bodily World. Through the Soul and the origin of us as human beings being Peace, we can understand the history. Of time and why some people are one way, and others are another way. As the origin of the soul is Peace, we can see good in every human being.
There might be persons whose karma has affected your judgements. Or you might have affected your own judgments in the history of your births. So in such you might withdraw from BK to understand your own lifetime, as well as the roles you must play.
Brahmin life is in the center of India…
Brahma Kumaris practice can provide knowledge to gender identities and identity differentiations of the self.
I love going to Brahma kumaris, I love meditation, and everything was fine , But i cannot accept the 5000 year Drama which is endlessly repeating itself. So what is the usage of Present Karma if everything is fix in Drama? I asked his question to many Sisters but i never get a satisfactory answer.
@@Jessica-ds8cq As the pre recorded video plays itself again and again, but for that, the play button needs to be pressed. Similarly, the actions repeat when we give a stimuli. Afterall, at the end of it, this all comes through realisations. I too debated this a lot, with seniors, but i don't how, that got realised one day to me, touched me. Takes time, but that feeling is absolutely different from this world. Enchanting! :)
@@Jessica-ds8cq 1. don't get the wrong idea from the supreme's knowledge.
~ everything in this world repeats in a cycle.
As : time, season, day-night .....
and so the cycle of 4 era's
our karma's are not fixed you have the ability to do your best, if you will do the best in present that only means you have done the best in past as well if you do bad means you've done bad in past as well.
most people get the false idea from repetition of exact drama, even if the drama is repeated still the 5000 years time is as much longer that per 5000 years of time laspe it is everything new to us, if you're reading my reply you have read it 5000 years ago as well but still you haven't even a little sight of it so everything will be new for you per era by era.
when you leave your current life and take another then you carry forward all the karmic account made and your sanskars but not memories.
this worls runs with many sets of laws such as 1st law of thermodynamics : nothing can be created nor be destroyed that means you can't create anything or destroy, you can only change the state of it... if you burn a paper it will turn in ashes but will not disappear so as nothing can be created nor be destroyed the same way there's a law : if the energy of a system is conserved then it will have cyclic repeat , the universe is also a system and it's energy is conserved so everything will repeat in cycle.
@@Jessica-ds8cq its u r the one who is creating the Karma then that becomes a drama. Somthing which u have already done or doing is karma. The concept of doing goods & bads over a cycle of 5000yrs is Drama. So instead thinking that way its already decided. Its good to think the other way around because i am doing it. Its happening hence from now i shall do all good & bcze i got this knowledge things i might have done in the past as u know the reason behind it. U shal control ur emotions & concentrate on what actually needs to b done now. Knowledge gives u power & command on situation.
Bk is fraud
There are bad seeds that make the rest look bad, but they don't last.
The positives of this practice is so much more.
They don't force anybody to stay or go. They try to help or spread the word for something they found beneficial.
Nothing wrong with being enthusiastic.
I practice at home more, also attend whenever I can. It's different feeling doing it alone than in group. I believe you need both.
The practice has shown me its own power! It changed my life for the better.
Daisuke akeda has done so much for world peace and trying to preserve and teach. He has books if you want to read his thoughts on nichiren, the simplified version of the original texts. He has done a lot. Raised money that goes to charity, printing and reprinting books, news letters, booklets, keeping the center running, etc. Why not raise money, all other religions do!!
I do keep all the priests in my prayers though, as without them preserving the practice it would never have made it to the US and other countries.
There are so many things in this world that are negative. This is not one of them. 💓 Always keep in mind that people have their own versions and you don't pick this religion, it picks you. No one forced me, it felt good, other people came and some went, So like attracts like. Thank you for reading my comment and have a blessed day. NMRK💝
Of course the practice is good, no doubt.
@@oindrilabhar Agar mughlo ko pata hota ki British unko khatam karenge toh woh Bharat mei unhe rehne nahi dete.
Agar dharmo par copyright hota, toh Hindu gods aur Geeta ka aardhgyan dekar logo ko aandhbiswas aur brainwash karne ke liye kabka case chal raha hota.
Agar yehi kaam koi muslim scriptures aur Chinese gods ke saath kare,toh woha ke log atleast apne Desh ke prati itne toh loyal hote hai ki aise brainwashing gang ko woh samarthan nahi karte.
Isi loyalty ke Kami ke wajah se mughlo ne,Britisho ne hum par Raj bhi kiya,aur hamari Desh se chori karke hum gaarib Desh bana diya.
Jaagrok Bano aur sacchai dekho.
You are making a big mistake. Guru Ikeda and his executives have committed terrible crimes against Japanese members.
It is highly hated and avoided by 90% of Japanese people.
What is the crime?
murder, property damage, intimidation,
abduction and confinement
extortion
theft, defamation
group stalking
There were many such incidents, resulting in many Japanese casualties.
It is the most dangerous cult in Japan.
At the onset let me inform you that I am with BSG/SGI for last 23years and still with it. I also know a lot about Brahmakumaris than most people. I am also a Bengali. My Spiritual journey is good. Infact I am still learning. I have gone through your entire video and I am not amused. Yes, in both organisations there are people who donot carry the essence/spirit of the organisation with them. Infact, this is also true for all the organisations on this earth. The persons you meet in your life is not by chance but by design of the GOD or the Creator (Whatever name you may give). There is a guidance by Ikeda Sensei....essence of the guidance is....if you donot like a leader, just remember what you dont like in him/her....and when you become a leader, please ensure you donot do the same thing with the member you are taking care-of. We should remember, that just by entering a temple, one doesnot become GOD or a true disciple of the almighty. For, in a temple, you will find a true disciple who has come to suurender himself/herself to the almight as well as a person who has come to steal the shoes and chappals of the other devotees! So in whichever organisation we join, we should understand we have joined for our own spiritual growth. So leaders of SGI or Sisters of Brahmakumaris are not important.Take Care!
People around you create an environment so that is important. Its human nature to look for something that is a better fit. Take care
Funny how SGI brainwashed folks rush to defend their long-term involvement with that cult, which only reveals their own weakness to realize the cult of personality and the distortions that Ikeda forced into the liturgy. Really funny, not sad!
Hi, i appreciate your thoughts, i am associated with bks, but I was never asked to donate money, few things i dont like of bks which they have made rituals. But the avyakt vanis really gave me spiritual elevation and i feel inner power
Hardeep Singh
They never ask money directly but they do ask it indirectly in many ways. You feel obliged to give on your own. Its a cult typically brainwashing people and instilling fear of doomsday. Stay away from it.
Apologies for the misunderstanding that was created in your encounter of BKs. It's not entirely sensible to judge an organisation of this magnitude with the limited contact (old people of Indian decent in one centre yet the organisation has over 8000 centres world wide) viz a viz the reality of the organisation. I'm from Africa and I joined the Bks when I was a university student that's 26 years ago and been with them since. I have never had to surrender my wealth to anyone ( I voluntarily contribute for the running of the organisation which apart from me, no one can tell how much I give). There is no Deity worshipped by the BKs. The teachings centers around the Self as being a spiritual being or Soul and the Supreme Soul (God). There is no one who advocates for worship of any kind and the practices suggested of waking up early and being vegetarian are entirely at the discretion of the practitioner (they are recommended to facilitate better meditation, they are not dogmas). You may need to research more about BKs for better understanding of what's on offer.
Hello id be very interested to chat with you re BK's . I do question several things you stated . Would you care to reason with me ? I have a reasonable understanding of the BK Teachings
Please let me know your choice either way :)
Thank you . Joshua .
I respect your opinion however I feel your problem was mainly with the leader and not with Soka gakkai…I don’t know who told you to chant for 1-2 hours…I’m told even if you have chant 3 times it has immense benefits…I’m a member of SGI USA and not Bharat Soka gakkai so I don’t know how different it is but here in Chicago I have got a wonderful leader who understands and guides me rightly…I have never been pressured to recruit anyone but when people ask me how have I changed so much? How am I so happy?…I do tell them about this practice and if anyone is interested I introduce it to them…pressuring for sharing experience or for recruiting is not what Soka Gakkai is for…I’m sorry you had a bad experience and had to feel that way….hope you find your spiritual path soon 😊
Thank you for sharing your experience. I did practice in USA too and did not feel the pressure to recruit or share experiences here so can agree with you on that. However, I did have a similar experience of encountering members and leaders who would not walk the talk and not practice what they preach in USA too which is a pet peeve of mine. I had practiced in multiple cities in India with multiple leaders and members and observed this overarching trend. I am glad the practice has helped you, just as I am sure it has helped many people I know personally.
@@oindrilabhar Hey, I am practicing in India as well but never have I felt pressurized to pursue anything in particular or i chant for a particular number if times till now. Hope the best for you on your way of life.
In fact this happens everywhere in the world, in my country Singapore do face similar issues where leaders pressuring other members to spread Buddhism, extremely strict, corporate like or army like style. It was a decade ago, even having midnight meeting every fri until parents come complaining :X. Now is much better and continuing practicing Buddhism joyfully. Usually the concept of Soka Gakkai is everyone is potential in our ways and took on leadership, which is why we will meet some leaders who think like corporate style of managing which is not a true practice of Buddhism, Mentor Ikeda shared to the leaders that we shld be warm hearted encouraging the members and never cause inconvenience to the members and i rmb i learnt somewhere in Buddhism when someone took on an important mission, people will easily turn to greed and power, I think it shared in 8 winds on how people thought it is a good thing and ended up abusing it. I have one episode where my MD leader scolded my mum before because she proposed a game for discussion meeting, i wasn't happy abt it, i sent the message to entire zone leaders, and they dialogue with the MD leader, in the end he stand up and apologies to my mum and others as well who he hurt. I realise 2 things, he was struggling his nose cancer but need to take medication which side effects could affects his mood such as frustration etc. then 2nd, it really takes courage to stand up to apologies, tbh, i seen people not only the leaders but my work as well, simply brushed off their wrongdoing without apologizing pretending they did nth wrong, that is irresponsible. I learnt to be more empathy from here and never judge others and listen to both sides of stories. Then soon after he lower his tune and starting to becareful abt his words. I always felt not to affect our practice because of some incompetence leaders and continue to practice joyfully. Which is reason we dialogue with them and study more on Buddhism and share the true Soka Spirit with them. There are more episode as well, and myself being screamed at before but we know we tried hard and knowing we still doing good for others, the end point we know myself doing the correct thing. Right now i am actually pretty happy that i got good leaders and good friends guiding me into this journey and more understanding when facing challenges and most important fighting alongside tgt, encouraging one another. As long you continue to do good, no one can stop you, even Ikeda faced this problem as well, scrutinizing him when spreading joy with others, when does good, we definitely face challenges.
Sgi usa is a mess tell your friends not to stalk and harass ppl
@@RandyChoy1987 Hello. I dont know what you mean Mr. Ikeda face any problems. I know that Nichiren Shonin did. 🤦Japan.*🤗
I respect your views and how critically you could draw an analysis on the spiritual practices, which is not accepted in most organizations with an open heart. I really feel sad that we as human beings have failed our own tribe. I'm a BSG member and I chant Nam Myoho Renge Kyo. I also have immense faith in Lord Shiva and Maa Durga and other hindu deities. I chant mahamritunjay mantra and other hindu mantras and all I can say is that all the mantras are beautiful and are meant to nourish our mind and bring happiness in our lives. However, what's really sad is how these solemn mantras are used as a brainwashing tool by several spiritual organisations and gurus by diluting the true essence of these mantras. I believe you can continue chanting Nam Myoho Renge Kyo because you are praying to the universe and the universe will never betray us, people can. I honestly respect your perspective and I had recently written a blogpost on the same, how faith should be devoid of pretense in context of Nichiren Buddhism. I chanted for freedom of expression and writing an article on Nichiren Daishonin because it was restricted for members. But I chanted for everyone to be more receptive and I took all the cautious measures by putting disclaimers too. You may read it as it might help you.
whelvedtreasures.wordpress.com/2021/12/01/nichirens-buddhism-faith-devoid-of-facade/
Thanks.
I read your blog and I see that you have written about some of the things which irked me while I was in BSG and SGI. I see that you are sensitive and understood what I was trying to explain here. Thank you
@@oindrilabhar I could resonate with your views because I have seen different people in the organisation who grasp the teachings superficially but they don't reflect it in their actions. But the chant is miraculous and I really hope that you chant Nam Myoho Renge Kyo and achieve miraculous victories and happiness in your life. Focus on the Gohonzon which is our highest potential or the universe in simpler words. Rest will be taken care of by the universe. Stay blessed. 🙏
my senior learders always say to me ,if you chant only 3 diamoku wholeheartedly it will make a difference..do it with quality not quantity..i respect this Buddhist practice with heart..
sending peace
Thank you
I recently joined an online bible study and after a week I found that the person doing the fellowship was bossy and demanding I had enough and blocked all contact.
Good work 👍
Hi, just came across your video, I happened to go through this 25 years ago, and hearing u went through same feeling once again, what I underwent was very severe, I lost alot of friends to this practice, and also my best friend who introduced me, thanx once again
I attended my first BSG meeting in 2009, and there was no turning back. Ppl welcomed me under their wings. Buddhist teachings gave me confidence, taught me to be courageous. Buddhism says that who practice Buddhism is no different that actual society. If there is a disease in society it is also in the BSG. What we do differently in BSG is that we know how to preview the disease with our Buddhist practices. **Note- by disease I mean selfishness, mean, rude, pushy natured ppl**
Everyone is going through transformations. In last 14 years I have transformed so much. I was able to address my anger. I fixed my tarnished relationships. Got into a better workforce. Whoever told you to chant more is incorrect. Focus on quality than quantity. I practiced in mumbai and everybody is exceptional. Then from last 13 yrs I am in USA and have grown so much with the help of this practice. Sensei talks about connecting to a teaching and not to a person.
All your concerns related to SGI were actually related to a set of members only who also joined to become better. They were not perfect already. When Nichiren Daishonin was persecuted, a lot of his disciples left the practice out of fear of Military Authorities of Japan. The same happened at the time of Makiguchi Sensei and Toda Sensei's imprisonment for their belief in Nichiren Buddhism and Soka Gakkai collapsed as all the members left practicing. You know why it happened?? Because they lacked study. Ikeda Sensei has very clearly stated in his guidance in NHR Vol 2 Training Chapter that the study of Buddhism is very important. Otherwise you will never be able to understand whether the philosophy I am practicing is profound or shallow. It is also mentioned by Nichiren Daishonin on a number of occasions in Gosho that never look upon the person, rather look upon the law. Because we all come from the secular world having different karma, different experiences of life and based on that we act and react. However, the law is the same and equal for all whether we practice or not. If you could take some of your precious time out to study Buddhism, it will help you look over these petty things. I am sure, you are a well read Young Woman and that's why I hope you would also agree to this that nothing in life happens by chance. All these experiences with people must make us more considerate of others and we must vow not to repeat the same with anyone else if we don't like it to happen with ourselves. People around us are nothing but our own reflection and you can't run away from your own reflection. So if not Gakkai, you will encounter such people anywhere and everywhere you go.😊
So, as Nichiren Daishonin writes, "There should be no discrimination among those who propagate the five characters of Myoho-renge-kyo in the Latter Day of the Law, be they men or women. Were they not Bodhisattvas of the Earth, they could not chant the daimoku. At first only Nichiren chanted Nam-myoho-renge-kyo, but then two, three, and a hundred followed, chanting and teaching others. Propagation will unfold this way in the future as well. Does this not signify “emerging from the earth”?
And regarding the charges on Ikeda Sensei, we must study his ideologies on every aspect of life before coming to any conclusion 😊. He is the one who used to write Peace Proposals to the United Nations every year until he was alive. He has done so many things on the grassroot levels for the welfare of society and the world at large. He never hesitated in keeping his views for world peace upright, no matter who he is engaged in dialogue with. It's very common to have people who might oppose him and can write whatever they want. And it has not happened now only, it had happened in the past too when Makiguchi Sensei and Toda Sensei were alive. Being a public figure, it's very common to have some malicious remarks by the opposition like Nikken Sect etc...(if you are aware of it).
I humbly request you to devote some time to the study of Buddhism and make another video if you find the teachings and teachers incorrect. We all are disciples, still learning and will keep on learning and improving till the last moment of our life 😊.
We all are Sisters in faith that's why I thought of writing to you after watching your video as it was only about the people you encountered not much about the teachings of Buddhism.😊
I am very sorry on behalf of those fellow members who have hurt your sentiments or did not turn up to your expectations. But they are learning. May be, you could have helped in broadening their horizon and it could have helped many others in future. However, we mainly think of receiving help rather than providing. Not your mistake, we make judgements really fast.. 😊
All the very best for all your future endeavours!!
If you need any support, please feel free to reach out.. 😊
Well, Nichiren would be diagnosed as having a Borderline Personality Disorder, if he was around today. The fact is that like Evangelical Christians of today, he embraced an apocalyptic end-time: meaning he thought the world would end because of the volcanoes, earthquakes, tsunamis and foreign invasions during the mid 13th century. His inability to see that these were normal and natural events is puzzling, but it gives us reason to further question his sanity and mental health. After all Buddhist have always understood the universe, and it’s functions, far better than any other religious group did, even using astrology extensively. In was his belief that these catastrophes were happening because of the Buddhist practices, and he blamed all of them for these natural disasters-and it is no surprise that he was sent to live on Sado Island: his behaviour really was crazy. And we know, from Gosho’s, that his desire to “fix things” was to ban all other forms of Buddhism and thus he drew the Gohonzon. But this was bizarre- it to mention that he really had made a big boo-boo in themBusdhist world-criticizing ALL other Buddhists. For a monk to do this, this was a serious flaw and he had broken many vows by doing so.
During the Bombing of Japan, the SGI actually grew very quickly, raising one million new members in just a couple of months or so, as they started their shakubuku campaigns. It was certainly wrong for teachers Toda to be imprisoned, but the banishment of Nichiren was based on the fact that his conduct-as a monk and as a Buddhist-were extremely inappropriate. He is lucky that he wasn’t executed.
Crux is probably people are spoiling it everywhere...what i really focus on is chanting to give me peace of mind ...i take the good things and leave the rest from any cult i get connected with!
Good strategy
I can guess you are not a leader and just a member. Bcz a leader can't say this.
Thank you for your courage! Much respect! ❤
Same things happened with me too and I really like Nichiren writings so I read them . I want to share this where Ikeda write in we grow Amid human relationships . In the early years of my practice, I found it difficult to get used to the atmosphere of the Soka Gakkai organization. Back then, we lacked the element of culture, and I just couldn’t bring myself to like the organization. Sensing this, Mr. Toda said to me: “If that’s how you feel, then why don’t you create an organization that you truly like? Work hard and devote yourself earnestly to building the ideal organization through your own effort!”
It’s the same with school or your family. As a member of the organization that is school, you need to be committed to making it a better place.
They have trapped my parents too, don't know how to save them from this cult Brahma kumaris
tell them to listen osho he is a good dehypnotiser
This practice is about life transformation practice it is oneself and others. You don't depend upon your fate but actually tells you challenge it and work in it. There will be prayers . Nam Myo Ho Renge Kyo 🙏
Hi,
This was a very interesting video to see, and sorry you had such a bad experience with Brahma Kumaris.
Firstly you seem a very intelligent, capable and aware of choosing what is good for you and I salute that. A few points you mentioned ... I'd like to address.. in the sweetest way...
I am a Bk from UK and my mum firstly started. She told me to go meditation if I wanted to but I was not interested. Only when I seen the transformation of my own mother from having depression and being angry... she became very peaceful.... but powerful too.
Only then I became interested to see where and how she is taking so much benefit from.
I guess the phrase is true 'When I change the world changes', lead by example.
The Amrit vela - 4am meditation - is ideally when you are fully practicing and there is no force - its up to you how much you want to take. Even I don't wake up all the time for it, but honestly I can see the benefits and inner power I do when meditating at that auspicious time (Sikhism etc. also as this tradition).
Your main teacher who made you sit on the Gaddi - is disservice to be honest. Only seniors should sit there... maybe they was trying to welcome you... but I agree that shouldn't have happened, and maybe it was a way of introducing you to the class possibly.
Also asking you for money you contributed and to say that's not enough - is also disservice.
Not sure who the sister is... but its very wrong to do so, and its a personal sentiment from you which shouldnt be questioned.
Manipulation is definitely a vice - disservice - and dishonesty.
This is very wrong again,...it emphasizes in Gyan not to give sorrow and to live a life of honesty and purity, so that sister should not be doing that at all.
In knowledge they say about purity - but there is heavy emphasize to fulfill your household responsibilities if you are married or working. Its not a sanyasi life where you give up your parental or work duties...but to live a pure marriage and lifestyle whilst living in the world.
You never EVER have to contribute all your savings - it's always whatever you feel is comfortable.
I only contribute what I can and its a small amount because that's what I feel comfortable with... I have been doing this for 10 years plus no problem.
Also its Not a conversation with a deity - the aim and objective is to become as pure as a deity.
The more purer soul you are depends on how closely you follow SHrimat (Gods directions - not sisters or seniors).
Also how close you are to God.
You could do 10 hours of Yoga but if your mind is wondering on other things...
whereas someone does 30 mins but its pure, unadulterated and full of love for God, they will attain more of a higher status...and its incognito...only between God and you.
Its not about caste system - its actually to uplift the mothers and women who get looked down upon. Also to let the poor claim a fortune, as the rich are more attached to their wealth so maybe would not have as much interest in God, so its nothing to do with discrimination...as we see everyone as a soul regardless of caste, creed, religion. Even in Ukraine & Russian war it is said not to take sides, but to send good wishes to all souls.
It's like a rose who wll give fragrance to all despite whose standing infront, or the sun who gives warmth to all despite who is there, there is no indifference.
Brahma Baba is not a deity but an example to lead...we don't worship him... but more to remember God himself who makes souls so elevated and great.
I think you learnt some good points.. don't focus on some people not following correctly to put you off... listen to the murlis and see is this what God would say...However if its not for you that's completely fine too :)
I did Raj Yoga teaching course in India with my mom. And the teacher even said to us its not always about making people come to Bk.. but sometimes even just making them better in their own faith or religion. That's how selfless it is.. as with other religions or faiths it's to bring people to that religion.
Anyway I could go on for long time but there is no point. In essence its about being a pure, powerful, and peaceful being. And to renounce all the negativities and bad traits we have, which take time. I see sometimes bad people in all faiths, pls dont let that spoil your experience. I actually make spiritual rap music too and my aim is just to spread seeds of peace and love.
Anyway I hope this helped in any way, and if you want we can continue the chat another time if you have any more questions etc. End of the day its about knowing your self worth...and that you are a powerful soul yourself :)
Peace & love
Lacky
Lacky, thank you for responding so gracefully!
Its a typical doomsday cult spreading lies. Just stay away from it. Brahma baba was a deluded guy. Instead of giving him psychiatric help he was given a pedestal and a god like stature and thus started another cult destroying families.
and... the main culprit for seeing the world through a not so positive vision is our greatest friend and oldest enemy to our freedom, the ego ( false perception of the self) which creates all sorts of false belief systems in our inner awareness/attitudes which shapes our vision of the physical world of people , places and things , the saying goes '"What we spot, is what we got" so when the ego spins false hoods about ourselves we take it on board as our truth and start seeing those weaknesses in others. so on this path of knowledge we come to understand that what we see in others are a mirror for what I need to work on inside myself. The more I identify with our true original innate spiritual identity of being an immortal eternal being of light energy full of Godly Divine Virtues, the less influence the ego will have over me, freeing the self to uplift others whom are under it's influence to help them find their own truth without imposing on others, this is one of the untold benefits of perfect Raja yoga shared with the world by the Brahma Kumaris Kumaris World Spiritual university, may it be the same for U2 sweet soul , ommm shanti
At the beginning sprituality works better for most of us when we go through some tough situations in life. Otherwise our analytical mind will never allows to accept many things. It's all about changing our perception towards things. This is my own personal experience exploring things in this journey.The next point is why should we change. There is no any answer to it. It is an individual choice . Sister is following a path but not by her,so sister might have found something interesting in that path not by her. We do things the way we perceive and we are doing our own journey. All is well.
sister who?
@@oindrilabhar you
Sorry to hear about your unpleasant experiences with BKs. However, I would like to share that in my 3decades with BKs, I have had many pleasant experiences. If someone was forcing you to donate or contribute, then thats is not what BKs are supposed to do. You have misunderstood the qualities of soul. Varnas or castes depends on the time and all dont coexist together. When the world is compeletely pure and golden aged, which is called heaven, all those live there are called devathas. When qualities of soul reduce, they are called kshatriyas (silver aged). when impurities enter and souls become body conscious, then it is copper age and are called vaishyas. When the souls loose the qualities and become impure, then based on the qualities they are called iron aged shudras. When one makes effort to imbibe purity by knowing God and connecting with Him and having deep loving relationship then that soul who makes effort to give up the old and negative (lust anger, greed, attachment, ego), is the twice born, brahmin. Anyone can become brahmin. It is by thoughts, speech and actions, one becomes brahmin. Amritvela(brahm muhurat) is auspicious and pure time to remember God. If you get up and meditate at that time there are many benefits.
Thank you for your comment.
Omshanti😊 be pure be happy 😊
Brahma Kumaris are not scammers. Just one bad apple 🍎 doesn’t make the whole tree is bad. In our study we know not all accept this gyan knowledge or understand why we wake up at 4 or talk to God. B.K. don’t ask money - everything is free and involuntary no one forces. That’s not what our founder Brahma baba did . Also the reason it’s encouraged to talk to god and spent time with him is we wont get bonded with maya and start accumulating more karma and suffering. If you understood gyan, soul , rebirth and karma in detail you won’t be posting negative . Yes there are many negative stuff said about everyone organization. People talk bad about Sadhguru , Gandhi and mother Teresa as well. The husbands who could not be without sex and wife’s who dedicated their to god like meera - thier husbands are the ones who started the negative websites on bks . Don’t blame the people who are int eh organization - see if you can resonate with the truth and purity of living god wants to bece diety like in this kaliyug. Every soul is on diff journey making effort no one is perfect . The fact you posted negative means you have negative sankars of being judgement and expectations of others to be perfect . Not all bks are perfect souls - but there are lovely amazing souls in every organization - that doesn’t make the whole truth false .
Did I say that the regime truth is false? thank you for your judgement.Om shanti!
The obvious truth is a cult is an organisation that has a head .. and if you leave..you have left ' the truth' the path etc . Also they change your mind .. your lifestyle .
In a way that creates conflict with your reasoning or actual nature .
I was in the BKs for a while and as a small question for one .. " the recent archaeological sites show advanced history is at least 10 thousands years old . Not 5000 as the BK teach .
So such a big lie is surely the tip of an iceberg. Its been 87 years now and still no nuclear destruction. I hope it doesn't happen. But that's a long time to believe its immanent. Not as long a the 2000 years the the second coming though so . There's plenty of time .
But .. the real threats are viruses and AI .
Maybe its ALL a 4D show .. like a play area for the self to pretend it's not creating it all. To play requires some pretence .
Like hide and seek :) with the self .
And if one stops ..then its over .
But then so is the fun .
Being still is blissful but not entertaining .
My mom has been going to Brahma Kumari center in Bangalore from last 7-8 years, it had greatly helped her. I too visit the center during fests, all the Didis there are too sweet and I can't think of them asking and blackmailing anyone for money. Paying the center anywhere from 500 - 1k per month as per your convenience should be normal as they too need to survive in todays age and they also organize programs and free lunch for public on various occasions.
Just because you can't think of it, doesn't mean that it can't happen.
So sorry for your bad experience in SGI.
As a member, I will try to make sure to not give this kind of experience to members I am connected with.
Thankyou so much for sharing it. It's really appreciated. 😊
Thank you for being receptive.
Soka Gakkai is more Ikedaism (or whoever the "true" Buddha will be in their mythology,) than Buddhism. It is a major cult of personality too.
However Buddhism has an inconsistent history, that is redefined over and over again, according to the sect, culture, and people within the community.
People with the SGI tend to be superstitious about chanting, such as "chanting for what you want," to "purifying Karma." There is also the tendency to blame people for "not chanting enough or chanting right," in order to bring for your "human revolution." There's also the excuse of "you have bad Karma."
The SGI also has a revisionist history about Buddhism, even by Nichiren history.
The SGI charges money for the Gohonzon, along with a need to convert people to "true Buddhism." The SGI is also rich, with hundreds of billions of dollars in assets, to draw even more suspicion.
One advantage the SGI has is they have home meetings, but then people continuously reinforce Ikedaism, and drawing you more and more into the SGI, reading reinforcing their mythology.
Chanting becomes robotic, and you get into a hypnotic state to generate various religious experiences, to create the illusion of "chanting working."
I was a member. Took me 7 years to realize I was in a cult. kosen-rufu is a term for world peace but world peace is not a Buddhist ideal. And I don’t think world peace is possible, in any case the Buddha taught that awakening was the goal, via meditation and other practices, but again, SGI doesn’t meditate. Early on they dropped it because it was too much for lay persons. I am not sure why but we saw similar changes in the Nembutsu schools-from an increase in the number of mantras one had to recite, etc. But wiping out the basics like Emptiness, Bodhisattva’s, meditation, those are just irresponsible alterations.
I went to a GS Center once because I was interested in Buddhism and taking meditation classes as I have done in the past elsewhere. What I found though was an administrative building (?) and the only meetings the organization had were at private homes so alarm bells went off for me. This was a hard no for me!
Well, that was a good observation on your part. The fact is that SGI practices are a very different form of Buddhism, different from any other group. I was a member in the 1980’s, but left when I realized it was a cult, and they weren’t really practicing Buddhism. They don’t meditate..why? The Buddha stated very plainly that meditation is the key the path to liberation and awakening. They also have a goal of kosen-rufu-or world peace. And though that is nice, it was never a Buddhist goal. Enlightenment is the goal. Not relaxing, not finding a better boyfriend, or a better job, and certainly not being attached to more delusions…The fact that world-peace is their goal and not enlightenment shows how financial their goals are. It was just bizarre. if you are looking for a compassionate-based group of people with which to meditate, I might suggest a a Hindu group in Haridwar-which has centers throughout India. They have a place to live for a day, week, or month, great literature, and they have many wonderful classes on-site. I have spent time there myself. It is Shanti-Kunj in Haridwar, and I am sure they have groups everywhere.
It all comes down to what you believe in, what makes you happy at the end of the day. What brings peace in your life without having any negative impact on other people's lives. You find people who have different views and opinions in every corner of the world. Rest its a very debatable topic, and there's no point in defending or criticising the above organizations. Also Thank you very much for sharing your honest stories and making us see things from your perspective as well in this video. I'm sure there are many more people like you out there who would be encouraged by this.
Each to his own capacity. Been practicing for 49 both in and out of the SGI Org. The practice works, however the organization is broken.
The SGI "helps" people when its beneficial to the organization. Sure some members may help you, but I have never saw the organization help anyone, unless that's getting them further into practicing what they teach. The SGI mainly serves itself, more than the community.
The SGI has billions of dollars in assets, so they could use that to help others, but like many other religious organizations helping is just about converting people to the religion, more than helping others.
Do not mistake what members do to help their community, such as volunteering or donations, but the SGI has very little do with it.
I am a student of the BKWSU here in NY USA for the last 20 years, you may not have an accurate understanding of the knowledge shared sweet soul. Om shanti ( I am you are, all others are peaceful souls) Just ask yourself 3 questions Who Am I ? Who I belong to? What Am I here to do? when you come to realize the answer to these questions deeply , all other questions will finish
Hello . Given that recent archeology has revealed advanced civiliations that are over 8000 years old . How can history be only 5000 years old . The cycle . And if thats now true . What else may not be accurate.
Care to interact?
:)
Joshua
Greetings of Peace Joshua, thanks for sharing your perspective on timelines. One of the more important aspects of the study of this spiritual knowledge as a practicing Raj Yogi is to question each and every belief system we have been brilliantly taught by our parents, teachers, government, media, social media ect... that we have taken on board as 'Our Truth' which when compared to Spiritual Truth's may no longer ring true in our inner world of consciousness as one of the truths that I have come to realize is that everything we need to know, we already know.
What I do know with 100% certainty is the source of the knowledge shared with the world by the Brahma Kumaris is the most benevolent energy in the universe that is the blueprint to re-discover our original divinity and self-transformation, helping us to remember that we were immortal eternal spiritual beings on a human journey full of God's virtues of knowledge, peace, purity, love , bliss, inner power and wisdom and will become that once again, which is what I am re-learning in its most practical form in the life I am living.
So... if that same 'Source of Truth' tells me, the cycle of time is only 5000 years, My original highest self, tells me its true for me. Hope that helps
Om shanti, Neo
What I understood over time, is that through this practice I started seeing my small /big issues as really big and I became too conscious about each and every small issue. Now even when I am facing the biggest problem
That's why we say it's easy to join nd difficult to continue. Transforming karma is not that easy.we need deep understanding of the practice.no one force to get up early or chant long yes leaders only encourage so tht we can have decipline life but no pressure as such..this is the practice which is very logical.
Nd leaders r not god we all r human. No pressure of contribution but they only encourage even it's 10 rupee. .even not tht one can only pray..very sorry you got such experience mam..one day you ll understand nd transform your life..may you always be happy. There is come confusion in your practice..I'm in this practice from 15 yrs now yes got many kind of people different thoughts nd this is how we all r with differences we respect each other as we ve life..nd we do our human revolution. Without human revolution there is no buddhism..but tgis is really sad what made you feel like tht..thank you for sharing. .we ll be careful not accidents happen..one day you ll chant again..ll pray for you..this life or next but one day for sure whenever ur life is ready..it's easy to join not easy to continue as 3 pillars r not easy..main human revolution is the toughest.
I am a practitioner of Nichiren Buddhism, recite daily the Lotus sutra ch 2 and 16 for lay practitioners.
Going indepth, Nichiren Buddhism started from monkhood to priesthood. Later, 3 groups emerged, Nichiren Su Buddhist, Nichiren Shoshu Buddhist and then Soka Gakkai Association, the name Buddhist was dropped. Who was the leader who dropped the word Buddhist association?
It's Soka Gakkai cult leaders
Set your life by your passions. Mourning routine is grooming needs, journaling, incense/massage, yoga. Study how you want to do them. Set up schedule. I like time markers but don't get hyped if you're slow because you set up routines with systems in place. Say you make the goal of 50 pushups every morning but you hit the snooze bar so now you're five minutes behind schedule. However, you've prepared overnight oats. You made wiggle room. That's the art of living. I love pretty and productive journals so I follow my passion research, buy and use it to work towards my goals. I'm grateful to buy it and the hands that brought it forth. You can make changes. We are chaos and creator beings! Forgiveness and acceptance. Love yourself by being the sentient being you truly are inside.
The teachings and the chant are precious and transformative. Unfortunately, like most cult, there are always narcissistic spiritual leaders that use the practice for greedy personal success and ignore the collective transformation.
spot on. the teachings are transformative!
Everyone is dangerous who talk about something different. Who talk about self realization, restriction to bad things. Everybody wants a life full of pleasure.
"bad"?
I think you are more Mystical, more into Mysticism. I believe Soka Gakkai is good for an individual who does not understand the universal truth, but for someone who does. We understand that the universe is both internal and external. Its not purely internal awareness, but also external awareness. Which is why compassion & love works both ways. We all are capable of this by ourselves once we become aware of this, you do not need an organization. It may be good as a Sangha though for those seeking truth.
I just started practicing and i'm not a member. Seems to me that someone telling you not to walk home or not offering you food is pretty unrelated to the SGI. From what i understand now, people are encouraged to adapt their practice to local customs and culture.
Bharat soka gakkai is not like this at all.... And if you are encountering someone who is aggressive then that person is not
The right practitoner.
"No one can be BLINDER than the person who doesn't want to see"
Hi, i think you spoke very calculated. The situation is bigger and messier.
I felt that in comment section many BSG members wrote that they were sorry for this kind of experience and that how they themselves never had such bad experience.
I am telling you I practiced for 5 years as a YWD. I was a district leader. And I was pushed to my limits. These leaders tested my patience and were not true practitioners at all. They made our lives hell. And i saw many people around such horrible leaders leaving practice, swearing never to go back to that hell again.
I would like such "so called Compassionate and yet not accepting the fault" people to understand that the situation is dire. And that you are suffocating people, choking them until they leave. What karma are you creating by not being helpful in this situation???? What karma you are creating by ignoring the sufferings of fellow members across India????
"No one can be Blinder than the person who doesn't want see or admit"
I was not very involved at the admin level so I did not have much more experience with the leaders. Sorry that you had a negative experience.
Thank you for making video to warn the world.I was part of this cult and it did tremendous damage to my life.
I saw many people's lives damaged. Vulnerable people who needed a little help in life were cheated of their life savings, became exhausted, ruined family relationships, unable to function properly in society, lost friends and damaged their health mentally, physically and emotionally. I wish you well in your road to recovery.
I am sorry to hear that. Hope you find you find what you are looking for.
I chant and no way 2 hours.i also don't do all the things and I still get benefits.its a law and the law does not say I must chant 2 hours
That's great for you then.
The SGI is not Buddhism. It is a New Religion. Anything calling it self Buddhism needs 3 things to qualify. The Sangha (Priest/ Monks), The Darhma (The Teaching), and The Buddha. Without that you are only play acting. Anyone telling you any different doesn't know better or is selling something. At the bottom of groups like these is always money or politics. Being is SGI makes you a follower not a Buddhist. They were expelled from the original Temple in 1997 and now issue printed Hozons and edit the original Sutra to fit its own ends. Do your research and verify everything I've sited here and be careful. If your looking for Real Buddhism SGI is not it.
Thank you for sharing.Yes, I did mention the politics part of it in the video and that is also something that sowed seeds of doubt in my mind about what am I investing my money and energy into.
Hello. Well said. People outside Japan dont know who Nichiren Shonin truly are and taught. Although i want to teach them they dont even ask any Q. Shame on them and nobody dont know and understand Nichiren Shonin's heart .
How can they soka Sgi members call them a Follower from Nichiren Shonin. Bless you. 🤗Japan.
All the suttas of tripitaka are available online, why go somewhere else to learn, you could also follow bhikku bodhi for understanding some deeper concepts like "dependent origination", you could also go for vipassana which more of individualistic practice.
My problem with Bks was that in their murlis, asking questions was always criticised and science and new technology was looked lown upon. And yeah... Same thing as you said about money and stuff. What BK shivani tells in a general platform is completely opposite to what she says in meetings.with other bks. She seems a logic minded person at first, i wonder why she's doing this?
What does she say in meetings?
Was out of this nonsense in 3 months after performing in their shows and seeing the double standards, keep up the good work..
Nichiren Buddhism & Soka Gakkai is a vast treasure house. Delve deeper. You seem to be too much taken away by trivialities. Please do not get carried away by one or two indiscretions by a few members. Even these members need to deepen their faith, practice and study and raise their life state. Seek more leaders, outside your town and even outside your state.
Thanks for commenting.
It's not a matter of a few bad members. The whole SGI is rotten to the core. I know because I was in SGI for four years. I still remember the exploitative 50K festival. And Nichiren Buddhism is not much better since it was started by an intolerant man who thought everyone should practice his religion, and was responsible for costing people their jobs, their family relations, and even their lives.
Not just thanks for commenting but thanks for rebalancing and articulating so well. Anyone can comment but not everyone is clear nor unbiased so thank you thank you thank you! Deserves more than the phrase ‘thanks for commenting’ as that is a pointless comment in itself dressed in shallow politeness and therefore questionable of sincerity.
Amazing video. It speaks a lot about you as a person. I am also bengali and I also never grew up going to the temple, but there is nothing to brag about it. I also live in North America but never been a part of Kolkata/India.
I dont want to defy the fact that SGI/ Hare Rama Hare Krishna/ or any other organisation - everywhere you meet different kind of people but it has nothing to do with Practice or Faith. Dont spread wrong messages to the community. Lord Krishna was never a part of any organization, Nichiren Daishonin did not ask anyone to form the SGI group. Its us who form such groups and mess it around. Was Ramakrishna Mission was formed by Ramakrishna himself ?
If you have grudges against any person or organization - you just stop practicing in a group and practice on your own. You are super power to resolve your own issues. Stop spreading videos for like and subscribe with all negativity.
never been a part of Kolkata, India? thanks for your sarcasm and judgement. says a lot about you!
You asked about recommendations and I would for sure recommend SRF and Sri Satnaya Sai Baba. Mainly because it deals with Vanity. Everyone goes through incarnations where they aren't necessarly ugly but they aren't exactly Brad Pitt or Marylin Monroe. In the area of Vanity I felt those two organisations can be very helpful. Being able to let go of your attachments and still be satisfied, content and happy regardless of your phycial appearances
I really liked BSG & SGI but I really hate leader concept in this organisation ... Leaders in any spirituality practice can definitely decrease the morale of members ... And most experience there are of money karma , but Buddha teaching was way beyond money ... It can never be aspect of any practice
Absolutely, that's what I felt too - the focus was skewed towards money and relationship karma.
Experiences are of many kind but money has become a prior things right now due to pandemic and it emcourages people
Thanks I like your frank speaking, the bigotry you witnessed deserves even more naughtiness, but still good you keep it low and analytical. That's a sign of spiritual intuition, sensing when people want to exert power over you. Of course the ideas of the teachings cannot be wrong. But as you say, I also see that it is not about a disciplined Programm, but on the contrary, the difficulty is to fine tune one's sense to the sensitive and dynamic requests of one's soul, what it is susceptible to at which time. Community is great and necessary, but the path to merging with spiritual intelligence I do see much more in that free style entering the digital self and discovering what speaks to you. And then sharing it us in the testimony of your own experience like you do here. Really like it, thanks.
Thank you for understanding. I hope to share my spiritual path and experiences post these 2 organizations.
The problem with SGI is that they give advice as if they are certified. I have been practicing for over 20 years now and I can say i dont practice with the SGI anymore . However i still am.im contact with a few friends that will always be in my corner in this life and have never judged me nor scolded me. And yet there have been several who have . I just remeber this Japanese girl yelling at me about making oragami for some youth division meeting . I thought at the time and still think wth did that have to do.with Buddhism? I practice yoga and am totally fascinated by Indian culture and history especially spiritually. Its remarkable how advanced India really is, spiritually. Yet the SGI is stuck in a very bad transition and there is hate and its not true Buddhism. Every organized religion is tainted by the people . However chanting Nam myho renge kyo is super powerful if you believe it , matter fact anything we put our minds to is going to change the universe. Thank you for being open and sharing . You are not alone and I wish you well
Thank you for understanding and your wishes.
@oindrila everything is bang on! Hypocrisy and double standards are at the core of this organisation. But that’s only because you are constantly being pressurised to suppress your emotions and feelings and bring out or portray a self which is unrealistic. Don’t even get me started on the contributions through money that takes place here. I’ve seen lives getting ruined families being separated finances going haywire and the list doesn’t end.
Which organization are you referring to?
I have been member since 1976 and I am 76 years old. I don't worship Ikeda. I protect the Gohonzon and fuse with the Gohonzon thru Daimoku when overcoming a big problem. The Mysic Law WORKS
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This sounds empowering that you are a protector. This makes me feel confident to explore it further. I am always suspicious when people want to criticise sacred practices but fail to present alternatives or balance perspectives.This feels a bit cowardly and that’s probably why Warhol quote on fame was so well predicted.
Yes, so you are so true, the idea might be genuine, but most people running or participating in it are fake. They don't practice what they preach. They are either trying to please their ego or other leaders in the group to get some position as the office bearer or end of the day it could be money/fame
Thanks for commenting. I have also felt the " not practicing what you preach" vibe. Though some members are genuine, not all are fake.
I don't know where you Practice, but I've been chanting for over 30 years in 5 different States and I have NEVER encountered or heard of such a thing. Is this in India? If so, maybe you need to connect with Members from another country
@@Maria-rs9sd yes it's about India. Practice here is more like "corporate mindset"
Chant more , collect daimoku chanted by each member, collection of home visit counts. And the district is not chanting enough then the leader has to chant and complete the chanting target all by herself. Horrible experience myself
Thank you 🙏🏿 for the information I have been approached 6:50 very nice people 7:03 but they can be a little pushy but the teaching have helped me 7:34 they did get depressed when I said I was looking to visit other Buddhist temples to expand my knowledge 10:42
Nobody told you must be a Brahma kumari. If you were forced talk about it
I remember my fellow Buddhist who introduced me was "worried" when I stopped chanting an hour a day bc I was just getting burned out. I stepped back from going to meetings for several years and they were surprised that I never stopped chanting! Just kinda pissed me off for not having the faith that I have strong faith. ❤🙏
I've been member of a Japanese org and BK too. Would love to share my thoughts with you. Let me know how.
I'd love to know your thoughts and so would others who are engaging in the comments section here. I welcome to share here for everyone if you are comfortable.
But you could follow Sensei... if you have any issues on mentor.... Follow what Sensei write...
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Interesting
And the biggest problem from people outside Japan dont like to talk and believe about the true Nichiren Buddishm. Nichiren Shu.Japan.
I have also faced the same situation ♦️♦️
BK wants to extrat money 💰🤑 only.
They want to brainwash me, and become one of them. ✅ℹ
Thanks:
Basudev
And I am totally confused, with which organization I have to go with
Kindly help, if any idea 💡
😊🙏 thanks
Watch my dance related videos and some more videos- that is the path that has worked for me.
@@oindrilabhar could you just give me links of your dance videos.
For sake of easiness
Thanks..
@@oindrilabhar you have to comment the links
Okay✅
SGI is not lotus sutra /Nichiren Buddhism. It is Ikedaism ...a few similarities./// not necessary, in fact slanderous. chant Namu Myoho Renge KYO and study nichirens authentic works. very profound. good luck.
It's sad that without understanding you are conversing so much.
so much? I agree with you. lol
I hated the separation of male female and age groups it was weird and they didn’t like me questioning it. The 50k was the point I had to say enough is enough they pressured you to buy tickets to this big event that was absolutely useless and so disappointing. I am a Buddhist but I do not need a group to practice nore do I need to chant for hours on end I do it when I find that I need to center my self.
It is my realisation too that I prefer pursuing spirituality by myself with guidance but not in groups.
I agree entirely with that statement!
though i have also been part of Bharat Soka Gakkai for several months. my experience was also not good.
Thank you for sharing.
I think the SGI is a political organisation in Japan. They do not act like a religious body. Nichiren teachings are good but not SGI
They don't really make a difference until you are dedicated to truth. These are just crumbles in the name of truth. If you look closely you would find that these organisations are just promising but don't really deliver anything.
I can see why you feel that way.
I was a sgi member for over 10 years. It made me see the light. I'm an atheist now 😅 so, thank you SGI 😂
I appreciate your thoughts but like this there is no perfection in anything not only in an organisation including way of living, eating food, even our own home. All ups and down because those make us strong and help to increase our patience level.
BKs don’t have an answer for [the question:] why haven’t the temples, idols and worship of
Brahma been shown as a remembrance in the scriptures and the path of bhakti? Why there are
temples and idols of Shankar and Vishnu as a remembrance and why are they worshipped?
I feel the most beautiful thing which transformed my life was nichiren Buddhism..i feel so blessed because of this practice..i wish u had studied deeper and not judged this practice at such a superficial level ..
Patronising comment
I only believe the lotus sutra and gohonzon people in Sgi don’t matter anymore I also left gakkai because of people now I am back.
I am part of SGI for 18 years now. I would only say that people practicing in it are human only and diverse people join with diverse reasons. No one can stop us from adopting great teaching in our life as it's our own spiritual journey. I may not agree entirely with whatever organization decisions or path it adopts but to run an organization it has to have some rules for governance. I follow my own spiritual path through learnings from my life. Try to follow my heart. I read through all the other scriptures also. Leaving organization because of people we don't like is not the path of sprituasm. Wherever we go there we will find something we don't like or conform to. It was very casual remark that if you were there during the time of Buddha your name would be there in the school books as you understand attachment leads to suffering. Follow teachings not the person.
Thanks for sharing.
@@oindrilabhar My best wishes to you for your spiritual quest. Love your journey and find your bliss. Nothing else is needed
Follow the teachings, not the person? Let's follow that up. Don't give guidance.
If you desire genuine spiritual growth, I think it's detrimental to rely on any one spiritual or religious teaching because they ALL contain harmful dogma. Listen to a wide variety of "teachers," and take what you can that is useful for you and discard the rest. Never fall into the trap that says: My religion/spiritual practice is the one and only true way to "God." It will only hurt you in the long run. Become your own guidepost. Listen to your inner voice because that is where your connection to "God" lies.
Fair, that's what I have concluded so far.
This practice helped you to get highest views in your so many vlogs
Show some gratitude
Thanks for commenting.
I listened to your experience very explicitly & want I found interesting was that I was also an ex-member of SGI a very few years ago, actually, I could relate some part of your experience with me. Was introduced into this practice by a family known & he told me or showed me things in a way that after committing myself to it all my suffering will be finished and would lead a happy life in terms of compassion and all. So, I was in distress because of life's uninviting pressures that every human being goes through & I'd an urge in me somewhere about knowing what real 'spirituality is' & wanted to know the truth of life. As we know that SGI's philosophy is based on Nichiren Daishonin's Buddhism which is good for a common person to follow and following the footsteps of their senior leaders, one can surely become a gentle & kind person which is appreciable. Also since my childhood, I'd a conception in mind about Buddhists & Buddhist religion that they are very peaceful people & their training is also very great for mind & sense control. As a person, I believed in trying everything & get to know attitude, so I thought I should at once give a try to this practice whole-heartedly, hoping something miraculous could come & I engaged in it following their protocols. After some long time, unfortunately, I ended up with SGI because for a reason that I really found SGI's philosophy for myself to be dry & last but not the least I didn't get my answers cleared regarding Questions like below:-
> Who is GOD, does he exist or Science is true?
> What is suffering?
> Who I am?
> Why there is suffering?
> Meaning of spirituality?
> What is true Dharma?
> Why do bad things happen to Good People?
> What is true liberation?
> What is true happiness? &
> What is true love.
I know that in INDIA, we have so many spiritual organizations including many people nowadays, mostly bogus who claim themselves as spiritual but they don't talk about spirit/soul with the correct definition, so how can they pose themselves as spiritual. I myself was born in a Hindu family, seeing my parents doing ritualistic worship & prayers to so many demigods and goddesses but I never found that strong faith & clear vision about Hinduism in so many years. So by the years, I turned out to be an atheist as I was myself living in distress & never got that happiness which my heart is craving for & usually thought like that if God is there, then why I & millions of people are living in distress. Again I was living my life according to my human nature with belief that man is a maker of his own destiny but still some emptiness was there in my heart.
Not going to in detail much now, again unintentionally I came with a touch with a spiritual organization named ''ISKCON' (International Society for Krishna Consciousness'' or Hare Krsna Movement. This time I was not in the mood to be part of any spiritual organization after my Ist encounter with SGI and listening to people's views on bogus organizations but something inside me was saying to give it another try. This time before listening to their philosophies and protocols, I seek the answers to my long-listed questions including above mentioned about spirituality, GOD & Science from their senior devotees or members with no hope of getting true answers. Astonishingly, my heart surrendered to them & my heart said yes, this is what I was longing for many years after getting 100% true answers from their seniors. So, all their teachings are based on Srimad Bhagavad Gita which is entitled as a manual of life to live blissfully and related Scriptures, especially Vedas. Since my comment is looking like stories I would not go into detail much, I will recommend you, that if you are really inquisitive to know true spirituality & still feels that your heart is still empty inside somewhere, then please just give one chance to yourself. Visit your nearest ISKCON temple or center, seek any senior devotee, ask them unlimited questions regarding anything before becoming a part of their organization & if you feel like some genuineness in their answers and teachings, then plz go ahead on the path of blissfulness & love.
Important Note: I am not here to offend any organization or someone's faith. All I shared was my own experience with SGI which doesn't make SGI a bogus organization but I am against those bogus organizations who in the name of spirituality are playing with the lives of innocent people & just making tons of money.
Thank you for sharing. I know the path of spirituality is not going to be any miracle but a path of trial and error. I was looking into ISKCON few weeks ago as I came across a RUclips channel of a German family in Mayapur practicing this path. I was drawn to it and did some research about to find it mired in controversies which again made me decided against visiting the centre. Also, I noticed that the German family sends their son to Gurukool but there is no system for girl's education so they homeschool their daughter which I found again sexist. These are the objections which ultimately made me decide against visiting an ISKCON centre near me.
@@oindrilabhar I really appreciate your feedback which is filled with honest views but there are some factors that I am sensing are putting you negatively about spirituality. See, I am not a 100% perfect being & don't judge anyone but I can sense that your belief in spirituality is really broken. Why are you looking for controversies/cons of every spiritually org rather than experiencing their philosophies practically & then knowing the truth. Even my experience with SGI was not that great as per my own psychophysical nature & human traits but still, I was inquisitive & hopeful to know the truth of life. Regarding controversies, there is a fact that when any person tries to do better for human welfare, he/she had to face bitterness from the opposing party, bcoz they know that you're doing well for human welfare, people will always be there to put you down no matter how much good you do for them, same goes for genuine spiritual organizations.
Maybe you are born & brought up in a culture where getting independence & favoring feminism in everything is what you think is right to you. Yes, I myself accept that there are some protocols in ISKCON where up to some point full independence is not given to women like women are not allowed to become nun here, women are restricted to talk very openly to other men except his husband, women is not allowed to have intoxication, drugs & illicit sex. Now, plz try to understand all these restrictions are imposed for the betterment, safety & purity of character for women. Why because we are living in a century where both men & women are full of lust, anger & greed by living materialistic life & thinking that western culture is beneficial. Now take another side of this, like let's say women should give independence in everything, also nowadays, women are educated too, then you tell why there are so many instances happening in the world leading to women's safety. Do you think drugs, intoxication, going to bars, temporary sexual intercourse will make women happy, I am not saying that independent women do all these things but our environment is so polluted that we are automatically dragged towards all these sinful activities.
Why you are making conclusions based on youtube videos since we beings are not 100% perfect, we will think as per our mental speculations & if you want to know ISKCON's reality, then watch the videos of monks who are practicing for the last 15-20 years, seek the devotees personally, ask them all of your questions, will recommend the monk's name who I get inspired from. Here in ISCKON, every woman is seen from eyes of respect, then as an object of pleasure who are given the right to participate in daily cultural events & doing their seva very well. We've so many devotees from the West including women who are practicing our faith for many years, who used to do so many sinful activities before becoming a devotee, it means they must have felt some purity here. ISKCON is not against women's education & freedom but we have put some little restrictions on their independence, keeping in mind the society & environment we live in. Because in Vedas & Srimad Bhagavad Gita, it is clearly mentioned that lust, anger & greed are the most 3 important sinful activities the whole world is going through, especially lust.
There are 4 core principles every devotee of ISKCON has to abide by including male monks, unmarried men+ women & married couples i.e is illicit sex, no meat-eating, no intoxication & no gambling. ISKCON's teachings have made millions of people pure & sin-free, as the whole world is going after materialist living & sense gratification, leading them to anxiety, depression, suicide & loneliness.
Don't think like, that I am a scholar stalwart, who knows everything & wants to prove you wrong and making myself look like a religious teacher, even I am a normal being like you fighting for years of life problems to become happy & blissful. But, I just sense that you are somewhere distracted via a wrong understanding of world, by your own identity, social media, feminism, right to be independent living in ignorance & looking for a ray of hope which will truly enlighten you towards blissful life.
My concerned suggestions will be that plz visit your nearest ISKCON temple, meet a senior devotee personally & ask your all doubts regarding controversies, women's independence & restrictions, and anything you feel but don't conclude climax based on youtube videos. Read Srimad Bhagavad Gita by Srila Prabhupad to know life's reality & if you still want to know about ISCKON in detail via youtube then watch (HG AMOGH LILA PRABHU) videos. Moreover, if you think that you can live happily without spirituality, trust me it won't lead you to a happy state of life, no matter what you achieve in life, since everything here in this world is temporary except God's love which is selfless. I am not forcing you to become a devotee of ISKCON, that's your own will.
Wish you blissful, happy & enlightened life ahead.
@@kunalbhardwaj586 thank you . Please Google "isckon murder" and you will read what bothered me. As for some points about feminism, I am offended by the fact that you said women are educated nowadays and given independence and yet there is an increase in violence towards women which means women are responsible for their safety and not men who actually go around committing crimes against them. If I ever encounter a monk, I would like to know why there is no gurukool for girls in Iskcon. Until then, I am happy with my feminism and independence and broken spirituality. Hope you are too.
Kunal bhardwaz@ follow acharya prashant.
Loved it hare krishna
For how many months did you practise in the Soka Gakkai? Firstly, a practise should ideally not be judged based on behaviour of its practitioners as they are humans and are not perfect. You met members with whom you dint resonated but over the period of time, you could have got a chance to meet members with whom you would have found the connect. There are some wonderful people in this organisation who have truly transformed themselves. Moreover, it's not about members, it's about your connect with the chanting and the mentor. Secondly, in BSG or in Soka Gakkai, chanting for 1 hour or more is advisable but not forceful or mandatory. Thirdly, I don't know what to say, but that member just advised you may be out of concern, that don't go home late and you are saying why is she giving you a free advice? I mean, seriously? You may not follow what you don't want to but what kind of world we are in where someone's genuine concern is also taken like this. Anyways, I would just like to say that you made an early decision based on members behaviour, you should have find out yourself through chanting and study, that what this practise is all about.
BK and SGI are the organisations which have helped millions of people to transform their lives and you practised in these organisations for few months, made some assumptions and judgements and made this video on you tube.
Looks like I am not the only one making assumptions because you made an assumption that I practiced for few months. We are entitled to our own judgements and opinions. Thank you for passing by, have a nice day.
@@oindrilabhar Too many spiritual traditions are based on the egotistical false premise that their spiritual practice is THE ONE correct spiritual practice in the world. But once you have a genuine spiritual awakening and you realize that the particular spiritual practice you are involved in is just one spiritual tool out of many, many, many useful spiritual practices. And the organization keeps telling you that they are the one and only true religion while continuously urging/pressuring you to preach this "ours is the one truth" message to others. Well, it becomes impossible not to leave such an organization. I was a member of SGI many years ago, myself.
I'm actually glad that I chanted for a number of years because it set me off on my spiritual journey. But I'm also glad that I left it once i moved past its spiritual shortcomings. This egocentric idea that "ours is the one and only true religion" is probably the biggest stumbling block for people's genuine spiritual growth in the world's organized religions.
@@Free_Will_Awareness_Unit Thank you, what you have said here explains most accurately, in my opinion, how I felt and still feel about organized spiritual/religions. Echoing your words- it did set me off on my journey and I am grateful to it but I could not continue for reasons explained in the video here.
Mucho texto
“Helped millions of people to transform their lives” don’t exaggerate.
I'm an ex member of sgi usa. My mom forced me to join a few years ago after she had a bad day at work. At the first meeting they overtly dismiss any criticism from outsiders. They made a HUGE deal about how I was shaka buku'd on daisaku ikedas birthday, which was pretty creepy. Then until covid members would just show up at my place out of nowhere and unplanned every so often and expect me to let them in. They would always creepily obsess over youth membership and recruitment. At the end of the day all they did was chant and worship daisaku ikeda rather than focus on any actual principles and beliefs. Once i got therapy and could advocate for myself better I left those bastards behind and I've felt better since.
Thanks for sharing. Sorry to hear your experience.
Congratulations on beating beaten by Sansho Shima. ONe of the first things I learned about when I started chanting and received my Gohonzo in 1976. I am age 76 . Long live SGI and Presiden Ikeda.
@Oindrila Bhar very sorry that your experience in Soka Gakkai is not good...an organisation is made of its people, and people makes mistakes...which really should be changed by them...i am really sorry for what ever discomfort you went through....i how ever have a different story to tell... It is because of my 8years of practice of Nichiren Buddhism that i could transform all the hidden negatives of my life into positives...and i could be victorious just because of my bond with my mentor and the constant support of my leaders and fellow companions....!!
My family background is just like yours, as you informed...but i would say, i could connect to spiritualism and "god" more so after i practiced nichiren buddhism.
thank you for watching
True, our practice with faith is dependent to us for to be happy and Victory. In my experience almost 40 years change my life, I have been making my Human Revolucion every day. I'm study the Goshos, the guidances of Toda, Ikeda Sensei, chanting every day and read with my ❤ Gongyo. After many years my family practice Buddhism and nobody force to practice this Buddhism of Nichiren Daichonin.🙏🙏🙏
Your analysis is completely true about BK, I have read and understood lot of it my ex was in it, I tried explaining her for four years but their whole family is in it and they can't get out of it and they won't listen they are fully brain washed. Funny thing is they have got the bk flag on their house 😂. Other thing is there are sexual activities with in bk(they call them self brothers and sisters but there are prohibited for sex however they do it in the garden in Abu and many involve out side, I saw my ex was also involved with a guy around 40 years old while she was 20-21 around). Which is much darker then this.
This, I did not know. Thanks for sharing
Same on you what rubbish thinks on your own mind diguedting😒
Well you seem to have done phd in yapping utter nonsense imaginary stuff..
if anyone thinks he has been brainwashed by any organisation just start listening osho he has ability to dehypnotise 😂 .
Whatever you do, protect the Gohonzon./ its more than a scroll./ I won't get into the experiences I have seen to people who destroy or bash the Gohonzon. Everything is Cause and Effect.
Appreciate your message.
Nothing like that in BSG, SGI.I am from Assam, and a BSG member since last 13 years.
Different people can have different experiences.
@@oindrilabhar very much true Ma'am, but for a leader or few, it's not fair to blame the whole organization
Hi let me tell you. I practiced for 5 years i suffered a lot. And so did many others bcz of such arrogant leaders. And we all YWDs left the practice one after the other. So don't say it's wrong to blame entire organization. Bcz it is actually happening everywhere
Sokai gakkai is not at all corrupt no money is even involved it's an amazing organisation i wish u had not judged it so soon ..
Thank you for sharing your experiences, very helpful. More power to the wonderful way you express yourself through your hands and body language and considered articulate experiences and opinions. More power to you. cucullus non facit monachum (the cowl does not make the monk)
Brahmakumari are wrong! Soul have below 84 lacks births or more than 84 lacks! Souls have no gender! You notice children's play each other normally in childhood! Only some the specific age we feel us our gender! All souls take male and female births for experience life and understand the power of soul in last births!
Brahmakumari says 9 lacks souls go to heaven that's wrong! Some souls born for only invent new things! Some souls born for sacrifice! Some souls born for change situation good or bad! God is one! But higher souls control by God! We control by higher souls! For taking births, enjoy pain & happiness, upgrade soul levels, last soul state (celestial beings) , they born very rarely, higher souls never taking births. So, never entering wrong things in life. If you believe God or not that's everyone one's own thought but don't believe wrong things, they said 900000 souls born again and again 5000/4=wrong,