Let me know if you're interested in seeing a 45+ minute response video about present day society and whether I think atheism is to blame for its unravelling. Thanks for watching!
Godless Cranium It does sound interesting, though definitely long (I think the longest videos I've watched that weren't basically TV shows/movies or recorded livestreams/conversations with multiple points) has been a bit over half an hour. It'd be quite different from your usual few minutes, probably a lot of work, but yeah it could be interesting.
Marcel That could be a way to do it without being so long. I haven't seen the video so I don't know if there are good cutoff points or anything, though. Usually multiple parts seems to work out for people but sometimes it can be messy.
1. Nope. 2. Don't know. 3. Then I'm wrong and there's a heaven. 4. Evolution, empathy, and society. 5. Nope, well yes if you don't care about social consequences. 6. Meaning comes from...well.. me. 7. don't know, maybe its always been 8. Miracles? who cares? Most are arguments from ignorance. 9. They don't. 10. Abso-frikin-lutely.
Better answers than most I've seen to these questions! I think a better analogy would be, we are all adrift in the ocean and atheists want to build a boat, but we can't because theists insist we already have one, the best boat ever, and any time we actually manage to get a few twigs together for a raft they tear it apart!
Enjoying working my way through your older content. Pretty much agree with all of your responses. As for #10, I'd like religion treated like cigarette smoking. Through education, society moved from having smoking portrayed as glamorous and endorsed by doctors to a much less popular and widely-acknowledged nasty habit. Sure, people still smoke, but the President doesn't host tobacco executives at the White House and say what a great service they're providing to the country; people who choose to smoke aren't placed in some special category where that choice is beyond criticism; a congressman in the pocket of the tobacco industry blathering nonsense is clearly seen for the shill that he is. And all of this came about without making smoking illegal. I think a similar sea change regarding religion could only benefit society. And we get there by speaking out, which is just what you're doing so well on this channel.
To me? I am 100% certain that Yahweh, the Christian God, doesn't exist. He makes no sense and contradictory in nature. Am I certain that no God exists? Of course not. But even if it was completely undeniable that a God exists the chances of it being of any human religion ranges from impossible to negligible.
And, before anyone jumps on your "well, Golden Rule...that's Jebus, so there!" ...it's also Confucius (who said it before Jesus did). And half a dozen others. Like the "well without the 10 Commandments...how would we know that killing people is a bad idea?" Well, um...either think about it for 5 seconds...or ask Hamurabai. Who said "don't kill people" way before the 10C author did. And Hamurabai probably didn't invent it either.
@@brucebaker810 the point isn't that people dont know morality without Bible the point is that there is no standard on which to judge upon it can be subjective . And many people might have said that murder is wrong and the bible is also saying murder is wrong then whats the problem
Your answers pretty much mirrored my own, with the exception of the last. My gut reaction would be to say yes, we would be better without religion, but then I remember that there are people out there who whole-heartedly believe that without their religion, they would be thieves, murderers, and rapists, and quite frankly, that scares me. If they believe that their religion is the only thing keeping them from these activities, then it would be best to try a slow weaning from religion rather than just ending it overnight, no matter how long it takes. If however, the question is asking, "would the world be better if it had never had religion," then I would not hesitate to say yes. Sadly, we must play the hand we are dealt, and it's going to be an uphill slog to eradicate this irrational belief system. It's had tens, if not thousands of years to shape how we think as a species, and that is a lot of inertia to overcome.
Thanks! I've only been putting out regular videos since about January and the first ones weren't all that good quality-wise. I'm always trying to improve but I'm growing a bit at a time. I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
I very much like your responses to these questions! I am delighted by your conciseness in your videos -- your direct answers make your videos very enjoyable! Keep them coming man!
I don't think most Christians believe in God or they wouldn't be doing half the shit they do. I mean if you're really dealing with an omnipotent deity that has laid down some clear and strict rules for you to follow with the punishment being eternal torment in a fiery pit, you're probably going to follow those rules real closely. You're not going to try to bend His rules or find a loophole. You're not going to sin all week and offer an insincere apology on Sunday. I you believe God exists you are going to take him seriously. You're not going to fuck with the guy. When he gets angry he's been known to take out the entire planet.
Sloe Bone: I agree with you. One of the problems with Christianity is that the Bible doesn't lay down clear, hard and fast rules. It lays down hundreds (over 600) and then shows it's "favorites" breaking all of them--pretty much. For every rule followed, or punished for not being followed, there are those who do the same things and are praised for it. The whole book is like a Jewish exercise in thinking...there really ARE no proper guidelines in there. And even those that SEEM straightforward, aren't, many of them aren't even correct. Between cherry-picking and apologetics, the religious get by and think they're following god's word, but in fact it's probably impossible to follow every dictate in the Bible. Never mind the supposed differences between the Old and New Testaments...and that's controversial, too.
GC, that stupid question we athiests often get by the religious,( who I think often just fear death) "how can your life have meaning without god?" I would say "my life has meaning because I try to give meaning and improvement to other's lives." Finding fulfillment, isn't that meaning of a sort? Love and Peace
I don't know about a single 45 minute response video. Breaking it up into two or three segments might be better. Question four and five remind me of the first time that a Christian told me that without God there could be no morality. My response was much the same as your observation: I said that anyone who only does moral things because the are afraid of being punished isn't truly moral. My feelings regarding the last question cost me a friendship -- or at least what I had thought was a friendship -- with a conservative Christian acquaintance. When posed with that very inquiry, I told him I felt that relying on science and logic would be better for Mankind than trusting in dogma and blind faith. After than, there was no reasoning with him, which is really too bad. I was genuinely interested in learning why he believed the things he did...and foolishly assumed that he was just as open-minded and curious regarding my perspective. Live and learn...
To me, it's all about the psychology of presentation. I know that I am more apt to watch two 20 minute videos back-to-back than one 40 minute video. Silly, I know, but the one long video feels like a greater commitment of time to me than two shorter ones.
Michael Tuz Me too, and thinking about it seems so strange because I would watch them back to back with no problem but I hesitate on 40 minute or hour videos.
I don't quite agree that removing the religious framework of morality would result in the moral collapse of society. Most of the laws we follow already are secular in nature. We don't need to make theistic assumptions in order to justify their existence. And the laws he have that ARE there because of theistic influence probably deserve to be overturned anyway. I would challenge anyone who accepts the claim that our morals are founded on Judaeo-Christian values.
#10 is such an interesting question. As an atheist, I've been preoccupied as of late with questions of the social utility of atheism, or lack of it. Great video, man! Really well put together.
Hmmm... Interesting question; is there a 'social utility" to atheism? My answer would be no. I look upon the fact that I do not believe in God as being an opinion, not a philosophy. I came to this opinion through rational analysis, and I think that as atheists we should be promoting the concept of putting critical thought above faith-based belief rather than working to promote atheism. We should be encouraging the process, not the conclusion.
I pretty much agree with your answers and it's more or less how I have answered them in the past. Well aside from the last one. I do believe the world would indeed be a better place without religion In the past religion gave us an understanding of the universe and how we fit in it. It was an incorrect understanding but it at lest seemed to answer questions that were at the time unknowable. But we have advanced since then, we now have the tools to find the real answers and religion is only holding us back. Galileo was found "vehemently suspect of heresy" for showing the the earth was not immovable and actually went around the sun, his work was banned, and he was commuted to house arrest, which he remained under for the rest of his life. All because his findings went against what was in the bible, against religious teachings of the time. Many use religion today to reject evolution, although they are starting to come around to it as the pope now accepts it as fact. But there are things that religion stills does that are harmful is it's a long list. And they do these harmful thing because of their religious beliefs.The religious beliefs are very slow to change, and often have to be dragged kicking and screaming to truth. Religion needs to slowly fade to nothing.
We all know there are no such things as "questions atheists can't answer." What I'd like to see more of are videos listing the countless "questions that theists can't answer." Of course, the comments would be void of any theist answers, just the occasional Bible quote or grammatically incorrect special pleading.
Can we do whatever we want? Yes! One of the best things about atheism. I do not answer to anyone, my choices and actions are mine alone and I take responsibility for them. But we need to realise that everybody else is free to do what they want to also. So, I am also aware there may be consequences to my actions. In short, I do what I want because I believe it's right, not because I'm afraid a mythical creature will be mad at me.
1. Yes 2. I enter dreamless sleep, lose my awareness. I no longer notice, that I am alive. 3. That is not a thing that I expected. Plus, nobody is in heaven. 4. The starry heavens above me and the moral law within me. I get it from experience, my own take on everything and from common law that is better to obey than disobey. 5. Yes and no, YES because we are generally free people and even with god we can do whatever we want and NO because there are other people living with us and they might impose laws on us and put us in prison for the rest of the life. 6. I give myself and other things meaning, no god needed. I live for myself and my own goals. 7. I don't truly know, but I prefer the answer/model that universe is ethernal. Big Bang -> Expand -> Collapse into itself -> Big Bang 8. There are no miracles, it's only a term we use, plus thigs supernatural. I don't believe them, everything is natural. So even the ghost can be put under a microscope, when you can't, that thing doesn't exist. 9. It comes from lack of uderstanding and lack of knowledge, people use religion to explain the reality and give it meaning. Plus I believe religion is opium of the people, used to control. I played enough Civilization IV and V to know that :P 10. Yes and no, in the past it was usefull but know we know better. We should leave it behind. I understand most of the people need religion, they feel weak and need god to feel better. Religion is good as long as its useful, it should serve people and not god (that means also priests, imamah and popes). ------------------ I am interested in 45 minute response video :)
Creationist: how are you so sure there is no god? Me: how are you so sure there IS a god? Creationist: well it says in the bible... the fact of that matter is that there is not much evidence for either side. where one side looks for cold hard facts, the other relies solely on faith. it's just an endless cycle. but the thing with science is that the more we uncover answers, the less credibility religion has. religion hasn't changed much in human history. science however, continues to venture further into the unknown.
I commented above. But that's another point. I don't know how many subs the channels have that you've been commenting on. It's good to start in a lower weight class anyway. Comment vids on vids by larger channels...come up in the searches for those vids & channels. Show in the sidebars to those vids... IF they've got enough organic juice already. Which, I think, yours do. So yeah. That.
Isn't it a proof that morality doesn't come from the holy books when a religious people keeps cherry picking their own book? They have the ability to judge their own book and the immorality in it and choose not to follow the immoral things in it and only follow the "good parts" aka cherry pick.
There is no cherry picking. There are laws and and there is a standard of right an wrong. But if atheistic worldview is true and that book is just some ink on paper. Then nothing matters we are just moist robots even of we do wrong things it doesnt matter
Unfortunately my biggest thought today, just like yesterday, is why the hell do I bother anymore? So I don't think I'm going to go through and add my answers to the questions. Yours seemed fine though.
3) We'll what if there is a god that is exactly like the Christian god except his name is Gregory and you must address him as such when praying to him or you will go to hell? But then, what if the exact same situation is true but this gods name is pumpernickel Mc scrabble and you must address him as such when praying or you will be sent to hell. This is exactly why a fear of the unknown should never dictate what you do
Like most of the commenters, i agree with pretty much everything you said, especially the point about question ten. You have to remember, religion has spawned more than simple dogmatism. What would an atheist statue look like? Would it be The Statue of Dave, rather than David? or what about other forms of music, art and literiture? Sure, C.S Lewis is boring as anything, and Bosche is just drug addled insanity, but they are provocative, and inspiring in their. own ways. I think it's best to ask, is it even possible to get rid of 'belief in belief', as Daniel Dennet put it?
ladyunicornejg No arguement from me on that score, but isn't imagination a fundamental asspect of religion? Depictions of characters and events that either didn't exist, or didn't occur, are what fantasy fiction are all about. Could you say Tolkeins Middle Earth, or Pratchetts Discworld couldn' t exist without a nod to old world belief about the nature of reality?
Christopher Bell in that kind of sense, I don't think we will ever be rid of religion as mythology and basis for new ideas. We usually build on what already exists, and that's part of it. If religions as we think of them hadn't existed, something else would have had to be used to do a lot of the explaining and story telling, whether that would have been better or worse. But usually when I hear questions about the world being better without religion I don't imagine anyone is thinking if all mythology and previous ideas about the world vanished. Rather more often, I think, it's about the belief in them and their control over people, as well as the community and support they provide, both in a literal and tangible sense and in ways many discredit these days as being signs of weakness to even consider like the emotional support and hope. Mostly because I don't imagine anyone is trying to get rid of the religious stories, just move them into the realm of stories, fictions, mythology, rather than let them have such a hold on society. Idk though maybe I'm off.
ladyunicornejg The aural traditions of our past, when campfire stories were passed from one generation to the next, has been surplanted by the modern day internet. Now there is limitless oppertunity, for disseminating both religious dogma, and the sceptical replies to such. I don' t think we' ll ever be free of faith, but it would be a better world i think, if we had faith in hummanity, rather than religion.
ladyunicornejg I agree. Knowing of religious fantasies is good for fantasy. But belief in religion is hindering. I would say, a lot of scientists came to their ideas, because they had a comparison with religious fantasies.
9. Not every society has religion. Though quite rare there have been H/G cultures discovered that have no supernatural beliefs. But we can sill examine your question a bit. What would you expect if a single God who ruled over all humans everywhere on Earth existed and wanted to give those people a chance to return to him, in the way Christians teach? Personally I would expect such a God to give everyone the same religion, teaching all the people throughout time what they needed to do to return to him? Now consider what you would expect if NO God existed and every isolated culture invented their own "religion" (supernatural explanations) to explain the world around them? I would expect a widely diverse number of religions to crop up with a God, (or Gods) who hold the moral values and behavioral characteristics of those cultures who invent them. Do not be mislead by how wide spread the Abraham-based religions are today. All of these religions sprang from a single seed started by a single tribe that lived in the Middle East. All the other religions that exist today and have ever existed throughout all of human history (including pre-literate history) are all based on the cultures who invented them, exactly what we would expect if there was no God.
I totally prefer longer response videos. Actually don't usually want yours is often because I find them to be short and kind of incomplete. I kind of get the feeling that irritated with the process and cut things to a close much too quickly. I Probably wouldn't be an atheist if I didn't thoroughly analyze things. So when I du wissen to new information or conversations debate I prefer things to be thoroughly analyzed. Or at least have all or most of the information. Which I just don't feel your videos quite do.
Heaven probably wouldn't be all that great. there would probably be lots of murderers and pedophiles there. if they really believe that sincer belief in a god is all you need.
I’m a christian, i don’t believe in everything that’s written in the bible, but I believe in god because everything in our galaxy is so precise that if one thing was done incorrectly we wouldn’t be alive and i don’t think that it’s possible for all that to happen randomly. You had very valid arguments and i respect them.
"Everything in our galaxy is so precise that if one thing was done incorrectly we wouldn't be alive." 1) This alone is simply not true. Planetary alignments, axial tilts, Goldie lock zones, the speed of light (given enough gravity), etc, etc, all shift all the time. And they shift a lot in big numbers, even Earth. 2) Life as we know it might not exist, that doesn't mean life wouldn't exist. Also why would a god need everything to be so "precise"? Couldn't a God just make what he wanted to work, well, work? "I don't think it's possible for all that to happen randomly." That is a very liberal use of the word random. I wouldn't call a series of chain reactions random. The universe is expanding this we know. Given the rate at which it is expanding, if we calculate backwards we get the "singularity". What ever cause the cosmic expanse to start is irrelevant at the moment, but it is expanding. All the matter and energy bumping into each other, pushing and pulling, absorbing and spitting out, creates chain reactions that are predictable. It's a very beautiful order to what seems like pure chaos.
The 'concepts' of gods has less to do with atheism than, well, showing gods exist. You can argue for agnosticism in that area, though that imo is more to do with people not really thinking about it than saying, "God _could_ exist, but I don't know." (More of a cop out really when someone actually has given ample time and thought on religion/theism but still professes agnosticism.) But back to question #1, am I sure no gods exist? Answer: Absolutely! I will be more than happy to change my mind when evidence is presented that a god exists (read: when he/she/it shows itself), until then I'm an atheist. (Now wasn't that easy?) -non est deus
SuedeStonn How can you be sure of it if there is no evidence for the nonexistence of god? The absence of evidence for something only leaves you with agnosticism as to wether or not the thing exists. I don't have any evidence for the existence of flying monkeys, but I can't be absolutely sure they don't exist.
_How can you be sure of it if there is no evidence for the nonexistence of god?_ That's easy. Two separate arguments lead to the same conclusion: 1. There does not seem to be any evidence for god X. Therefore, there does not seem to be a way that belief in said god could have ever been justified. It is therefore very likely that god X does not actually exist. 2. There does not seem to be any evidence for god X. However, if god X did exist, we would expect there to be quite a bit of evidence. Therefore, it seems very unlikely that god X exists. Since two separate arguments come to the same result, for pretty much any god ever, that means you can be very sure that no god exists. (Not 100%, but then there is nothing outside math and logic that can ever be 100% certain.) This ignores that many gods (such as the Christian one) are actually connected to claims that are in conflict with known evidence, or even basic logic, which makes them even less likely.
Kai Henningsen Well, it seems the first argument does not follow with its conclusion. To say there is no evidence for a particular being is not to say the being is likely nonexistent. But the second argument would be stronger if you could justify the second premise, that is that we should expect more evidence if a god existed. This can be done, but not without further justification. Jl Schellenbergs argument from divine hiddenness does this. Now, I prefer the third way you mentioned. It seems to me that any worthwhile definition of god provides a basis to be disproven given either some contradiction with itself or given a contradiction with an external fact about existence. For example, god is typically defined as the creator of the universe, but the creator of the universe is a nonsensical proposition given certain facts about what it means to cause the universe. Worthwhile definitions of god also usually include ontologically maximal values such as the foundation for morality or perfect love for his creatures or maximal excellence in every possible world. Each one of these properties are not possible given facts about reality.
I would like to hear a 45 minute response. Could you post a link for their argument so I can watch ahead of time. Wait, I'll find it. I like that you videos are short but sometimes I don't mind a longer directors cut extended version including deleted scenes.
If a longer video means you can breath between sentences, I'm all for it! This video sounded as if you were paid for the word-per-minute count. A while ago I heard someone mention that we actually discovered a (what was called "primitive" in earlier times) society that had managed not to develop religion, supposedly frustrating missionaries because as soon as they'd discover those invisible friends were invisible, they'd lose interest. Don't know if true, but if so, that sounds interesting. I have no trouble finding meaning when I want it, but I never understood why people wanted there to be meaning *of* life. Or, if someone actually created me for a purpose, why that should obligate me in any way. Plus, if all the bad stuff in life is according to some plan, that doesn't make me feel better - it makes me feel worse. And the world would surely better off without authoritarian ideologies like religion, or fascism, or Stalinism, or etc.
Life Purpose If Yahweh gives your life meaning, what is it? I don’t recall reading in the bible "The purpose of your life is X". Let’s say you think the meaning is something like "Spreading Christianity. Raising money for the church. Saving souls from Satan". What if that life purpose leaves you cold? If you were an atheist, you could choose your own purpose. You might decide it was ending hunger, protecting the environment, promoting social justice… If you got bored with it, you could adopt another.
I have a short attention span so I would like 6 or 8 part responce videos discusing atheism as the blame for the western societies unravelling. Short responces are better for people with short attention spans.
I prefer to answer the first question with another question, If a god exists why would it be worth worship? I could certainly despise the god of the bible (if it is as described) and I suppose I could even work up the energy to respect a different god if it did something I considered to be better than its nature, but I see no coherent reason to ever revere a god except perhaps, if I was doing it just to get something from it, which would be by definition purely selfish and consequently totally insincere on my part.
1. yes 2. nobody knows. I think we just stop existing 3. I wouldn't want to be in it. I would want to just lose all my emotions and just stop existing. Then there is no boredom. No suffering. No joy. No care. You won't care that you can't be happy. Because you can't care. 4. From basic feelings. The human brain is designed to keep us alive. Helping others so that they will help us later in the future is a strategy that the human brain knows. If punching someone hurts and it makes them wanna punch you back. The brain will say "don't punch someone else" 5. Yes. We have do whatever we want unless its something that we physically or mentally cannot do. 6. It doesn't. Life doesn't have any meaning. Lifes only point is to survive. But why? The answer is no reason. There is no meaning to life 7. The human race is so stupid that we can't even comprehend how the universe was made. example: So what was before the universe? was it just nothing? Nothing has a color. So what happens when you touch that nothing? you just go into it. Maybe the universe doesn't exist, maybe its all just nothing with something inside of it. If nothing always existed then did time always exist? If time is infinite how would we get to how we are now. Since it goes infinitly far back. 8. When has there ever been a miracle where someone prayed to god asking for something and god gave it to them? (it has to be something that actually has a small or no chance for it to happen.) 9. Because humans want an explanation. A way to see whats the meaning of life. They don't want to just admit that there is no meaning 10. I don't know. Religion doesn't really do anything. I don't think much would change, maybe some holidays like Christmas, Easter, ect. would disapear but only kids care about them.
With regards to #10, someone asking that question is probably thinking of their own religion rather then religion in general. Just look at the trouble Islam is causing around the world at the moment. That's religion and we'd definitely be better off without that. That said, if everyone thought the way those extremists do then the world may be peaceful because people wouldn't be killing other people over ideology. If everyone in the world was the same religion then the idea that religion is good even if it's wrong might apply but that seems rather unlikely to me. Given that we have Muslims killing Christians, Jews, Hindus, etc, as well as other Muslims, we've had Christians killing other Christians in Northern Ireland, etc, etc, the idea that religion is inherently a force for good regardless of whether it's true is just silly. It may be the case that society would go down hill if and when we eradicated religion but my hope would be that that would just be an initial phase. With all that garbage out of the way, we could then get down to the business of actually solving our society's and our world's problems instead of arguing if a god exists and which one (or more).
If you replace religion with humanism, then yes. Turn that wooden rowboat into a 50ft yacht. Yes, do a response video, but break it into 10-15 minute parts.
Would you really need forty five minutes to respond to Stefan? I know his videos are long, but you don't need to respond to every single one of his points, just the overall argument he's making.
Curious question In general I see a lot of atheists hating against theism like it's a disgusting immoral thing as a rule. The only immoral religion I know is Islam who do actual punishments that are most definitely immoral. Where these other religions dont. From what I see in America in Judaism being I grew up with a Jewish background and from what I've observed from Christians and others. There's seems to be a lot of love joy and happiness spread through all this. Isn't it counter productive for atheists to try proving how immoral and disgusting religion is. when in this country majority people being religious for a very long time. And also having a growthful healthy society in this country under all these delusional religious beliefs? Hope you understand what I'm asking.
Alexander Class No, *YOU* don't know our beliefs. Agnostic deals with knowledge and atheist deals with belief. You can be both. I don't *believe* in a god, but I don't know nor do I claim to know. I am an agnostic atheist. Don't try to correct other people on a subject you know nothing about.
I love how theists can tell us what we believe. Who is more likely to know what I believe? Me? or someone I have never met? Theism means belief in a God or Gods and A means without A-theism is without belief in a God or Gods Nothing in there about knowledge
Atheism - The lack of belief in God I've been Atheist my whole life, in other words indoctrination into a Religion never happened to me. If you ask me "do you believe in God" i will say "no" But if you ask me "do you think there could be a God of some kind" i will say "i don't know" This is Atheism. I'm also agnostic because i would say knowledge is a good thing and we should try to obtain as much knowledge as humanly possible. I'm also Anti-Theist towards the God of the Qur'an and the God of the Bible. I've read both Religious texts and come to the conclusion (it's just my opinion) that these Gods are contradictions of themselves and in turn are an impossibility. In other words, they don't exist. Which means i'm an Anti-Theist, Agnostic, Atheist, all these labels are annoying, but because of what i think and/or believe, all three do apply.
ladyunicornejg Haha. No. Just my work schedule is crazy. They changed my hours so today and tomorrow are likely a wash. Although I'm working on 3 colabs at the moment as well.
Nah, I'll not burn out. Work always comes first and I'm not rushing the colabs. I'm also wanting to do that Molyneux video and that will take a few days I think.
Days?! How long are you going to make me go without?! :P Not serious, of course. I'm actually still trying to get past the whole "why do I try talking to people" thing. I'm bored, but in no particular hurry to have more conversations where I'm especially emotionally invested in my side of any argument.
If you're curious, it had nothing to do with the conversation I linked you to before, nor anything on your channel. Someone decided to derail a potential conversation by arguing against something never said and refusing to pay attention over "condescension" they read in (not intended when written, not sure how it could have been avoided, but I understand seeing it) rather than just say something or ignore it (wasn't meant for them, but a channel owner who had responded already) or anything remotely useful. Trolls wear on my nerves in a way, fighting with people who basically tell me either not to care or not to exist in public can tick me off, but the way that was done just managed to strike a whole different way.
Let me know if you're interested in seeing a 45+ minute response video about present day society and whether I think atheism is to blame for its unravelling.
Thanks for watching!
I'd watch it.
Cheers
Godless Cranium
It does sound interesting, though definitely long (I think the longest videos I've watched that weren't basically TV shows/movies or recorded livestreams/conversations with multiple points) has been a bit over half an hour. It'd be quite different from your usual few minutes, probably a lot of work, but yeah it could be interesting.
I'd be interested, but perhaps in 2 parts? :-)
Godless Cranium I would like to see that video.
Marcel
That could be a way to do it without being so long. I haven't seen the video so I don't know if there are good cutoff points or anything, though. Usually multiple parts seems to work out for people but sometimes it can be messy.
1. Nope.
2. Don't know.
3. Then I'm wrong and there's a heaven.
4. Evolution, empathy, and society.
5. Nope, well yes if you don't care about social consequences.
6. Meaning comes from...well.. me.
7. don't know, maybe its always been
8. Miracles? who cares? Most are arguments from ignorance.
9. They don't.
10. Abso-frikin-lutely.
Better answers than most I've seen to these questions! I think a better analogy would be, we are all adrift in the ocean and atheists want to build a boat, but we can't because theists insist we already have one, the best boat ever, and any time we actually manage to get a few twigs together for a raft they tear it apart!
morality. Secular humanism is waaaaay better than the morality of most religions.
Tom Valentino most? give me one religion with better moral system!
kit p: the Jains. Maybe.
This video should be posted everywhere. Such a balanced and true and honest response that cuts right to the core. Good job bro
Enjoying working my way through your older content. Pretty much agree with all of your responses. As for #10, I'd like religion treated like cigarette smoking. Through education, society moved from having smoking portrayed as glamorous and endorsed by doctors to a much less popular and widely-acknowledged nasty habit. Sure, people still smoke, but the President doesn't host tobacco executives at the White House and say what a great service they're providing to the country; people who choose to smoke aren't placed in some special category where that choice is beyond criticism; a congressman in the pocket of the tobacco industry blathering nonsense is clearly seen for the shill that he is. And all of this came about without making smoking illegal. I think a similar sea change regarding religion could only benefit society. And we get there by speaking out, which is just what you're doing so well on this channel.
To me? I am 100% certain that Yahweh, the Christian God, doesn't exist. He makes no sense and contradictory in nature. Am I certain that no God exists? Of course not. But even if it was completely undeniable that a God exists the chances of it being of any human religion ranges from impossible to negligible.
We DO have a good, working replacements for religion: science to explain nature, and The Golden Rule for morality.
And, before anyone jumps on your "well, Golden Rule...that's Jebus, so there!" ...it's also Confucius (who said it before Jesus did). And half a dozen others.
Like the "well without the 10 Commandments...how would we know that killing people is a bad idea?" Well, um...either think about it for 5 seconds...or ask Hamurabai. Who said "don't kill people" way before the 10C author did. And Hamurabai probably didn't invent it either.
@@brucebaker810 the point isn't that people dont know morality without Bible the point is that there is no standard on which to judge upon it can be subjective . And many people might have said that murder is wrong and the bible is also saying murder is wrong then whats the problem
I think the boat analogy is more about social structures than explanations for reality
You're doing good job buddy keep it up
Thank you so much, Gerald. I really appreciate that.
Your answers pretty much mirrored my own, with the exception of the last. My gut reaction would be to say yes, we would be better without religion, but then I remember that there are people out there who whole-heartedly believe that without their religion, they would be thieves, murderers, and rapists, and quite frankly, that scares me. If they believe that their religion is the only thing keeping them from these activities, then it would be best to try a slow weaning from religion rather than just ending it overnight, no matter how long it takes. If however, the question is asking, "would the world be better if it had never had religion," then I would not hesitate to say yes. Sadly, we must play the hand we are dealt, and it's going to be an uphill slog to eradicate this irrational belief system. It's had tens, if not thousands of years to shape how we think as a species, and that is a lot of inertia to overcome.
really, how do you not have more subs? your content is a rather high quality for being so small.
Thanks! I've only been putting out regular videos since about January and the first ones weren't all that good quality-wise. I'm always trying to improve but I'm growing a bit at a time. I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
I very much like your responses to these questions! I am delighted by your conciseness in your videos -- your direct answers make your videos very enjoyable! Keep them coming man!
Thank you very much Keith!
I don't think most Christians believe in God or they wouldn't be doing half the shit they do. I mean if you're really dealing with an omnipotent deity that has laid down some clear and strict rules for you to follow with the punishment being eternal torment in a fiery pit, you're probably going to follow those rules real closely.
You're not going to try to bend His rules or find a loophole. You're not going to sin all week and offer an insincere apology on Sunday. I you believe God exists you are going to take him seriously. You're not going to fuck with the guy. When he gets angry he's been known to take out the entire planet.
Sloe Bone: I agree with you.
One of the problems with Christianity is that the Bible doesn't lay down clear, hard and fast rules. It lays down hundreds (over 600) and then shows it's "favorites" breaking all of them--pretty much. For every rule followed, or punished for not being followed, there are those who do the same things and are praised for it. The whole book is like a Jewish exercise in thinking...there really ARE no proper guidelines in there. And even those that SEEM straightforward, aren't, many of them aren't even correct.
Between cherry-picking and apologetics, the religious get by and think they're following god's word, but in fact it's probably impossible to follow every dictate in the Bible. Never mind the supposed differences between the Old and New Testaments...and that's controversial, too.
Great common sense succinct answers. Why do some theists ask such silly questions???
cuz they believe in god.... and dont even try to understand or accept science
GC, that stupid question we athiests often get by the religious,( who I think often just fear death) "how can your life have meaning without god?" I would say "my life has meaning because I try to give meaning and improvement to other's lives." Finding fulfillment, isn't that meaning of a sort? Love and Peace
I don't know about a single 45 minute response video. Breaking it up into two or three segments might be better.
Question four and five remind me of the first time that a Christian told me that without God there could be no morality. My response was much the same as your observation:
I said that anyone who only does moral things because the are afraid of being punished isn't truly moral.
My feelings regarding the last question cost me a friendship -- or at least what I had thought was a friendship -- with a conservative Christian acquaintance. When posed with that very inquiry, I told him I felt that relying on science and logic would be better for Mankind than trusting in dogma and blind faith.
After than, there was no reasoning with him, which is really too bad. I was genuinely interested in learning why he believed the things he did...and foolishly assumed that he was just as open-minded and curious regarding my perspective.
Live and learn...
Yeah, I think two 20 minute videos or even 25 minute videos would work out better. I'll just keep them under a half hour.
To me, it's all about the psychology of presentation. I know that I am more apt to watch two 20 minute videos back-to-back than one 40 minute video. Silly, I know, but the one long video feels like a greater commitment of time to me than two shorter ones.
Makes sense to me. That's why I tend to put out shorter, more concise videos.
Michael Tuz Me too, and thinking about it seems so strange because I would watch them back to back with no problem but I hesitate on 40 minute or hour videos.
Couldn't have said it any better, Godless Cranium! Very well phrased and to the point. Thanks for posting.
I don't quite agree that removing the religious framework of morality would result in the moral collapse of society. Most of the laws we follow already are secular in nature. We don't need to make theistic assumptions in order to justify their existence. And the laws he have that ARE there because of theistic influence probably deserve to be overturned anyway. I would challenge anyone who accepts the claim that our morals are founded on Judaeo-Christian values.
#10 is such an interesting question. As an atheist, I've been preoccupied as of late with questions of the social utility of atheism, or lack of it. Great video, man! Really well put together.
Hi, I Think I'm Real Thanks man. I have been lately as well. I'm looking forward to posting more thoughts about it soon. Thanks for stopping in!
It'd be great to have a conversation with you about it. Let me know if you're ever interested in making a video, I'd be on board.
Hmmm...
Interesting question; is there a 'social utility" to atheism? My answer would be no.
I look upon the fact that I do not believe in God as being an opinion, not a philosophy. I came to this opinion through rational analysis, and I think that as atheists we should be promoting the concept of putting critical thought above faith-based belief rather than working to promote atheism.
We should be encouraging the process, not the conclusion.
Hi, I Think I'm Real I'd be totally interested in doing that. I've been wanting to do some colabs.
I pretty much agree with your answers and it's more or less how I have answered them in the past. Well aside from the last one. I do believe the world would indeed be a better place without religion In the past religion gave us an understanding of the universe and how we fit in it. It was an incorrect understanding but it at lest seemed to answer questions that were at the time unknowable. But we have advanced since then, we now have the tools to find the real answers and religion is only holding us back.
Galileo was found "vehemently suspect of heresy" for showing the the earth was not immovable and actually went around the sun, his work was banned, and he was commuted to house arrest, which he remained under for the rest of his life. All because his findings went against what was in the bible, against religious teachings of the time.
Many use religion today to reject evolution, although they are starting to come around to it as the pope now accepts it as fact. But there are things that religion stills does that are harmful is it's a long list. And they do these harmful thing because of their religious beliefs.The religious beliefs are very slow to change, and often have to be dragged kicking and screaming to truth. Religion needs to slowly fade to nothing.
great vid GC!
excellent answers to some challenging questions
We all know there are no such things as "questions atheists can't answer." What I'd like to see more of are videos listing the countless "questions that theists can't answer." Of course, the comments would be void of any theist answers, just the occasional Bible quote or grammatically incorrect special pleading.
Can we do whatever we want? Yes! One of the best things about atheism. I do not answer to anyone, my choices and actions are mine alone and I take responsibility for them. But we need to realise that everybody else is free to do what they want to also. So, I am also aware there may be consequences to my actions. In short, I do what I want because I believe it's right, not because I'm afraid a mythical creature will be mad at me.
1. Yes
2. I enter dreamless sleep, lose my awareness. I no longer notice, that I am alive.
3. That is not a thing that I expected. Plus, nobody is in heaven.
4. The starry heavens above me and the moral law within me. I get it from experience, my own take on everything and from common law that is better to obey than disobey.
5. Yes and no, YES because we are generally free people and even with god we can do whatever we want and NO because there are other people living with us and they might impose laws on us and put us in prison for the rest of the life.
6. I give myself and other things meaning, no god needed. I live for myself and my own goals.
7. I don't truly know, but I prefer the answer/model that universe is ethernal. Big Bang -> Expand -> Collapse into itself -> Big Bang
8. There are no miracles, it's only a term we use, plus thigs supernatural. I don't believe them, everything is natural. So even the ghost can be put under a microscope, when you can't, that thing doesn't exist.
9. It comes from lack of uderstanding and lack of knowledge, people use religion to explain the reality and give it meaning. Plus I believe religion is opium of the people, used to control. I played enough Civilization IV and V to know that :P
10. Yes and no, in the past it was usefull but know we know better. We should leave it behind. I understand most of the people need religion, they feel weak and need god to feel better. Religion is good as long as its useful, it should serve people and not god (that means also priests, imamah and popes).
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I am interested in 45 minute response video :)
Creationist: how are you so sure there is no god?
Me: how are you so sure there IS a god?
Creationist: well it says in the bible...
the fact of that matter is that there is not much evidence for either side. where one side looks for cold hard facts, the other relies solely on faith. it's just an endless cycle. but the thing with science is that the more we uncover answers, the less credibility religion has. religion hasn't changed much in human history. science however, continues to venture further into the unknown.
YES! Do the stefan video! Not enough people do him!
I likely will. And with nearly 600k subs, I think a lot of people do take him seriously.
I commented above. But that's another point. I don't know how many subs the channels have that you've been commenting on. It's good to start in a lower weight class anyway.
Comment vids on vids by larger channels...come up in the searches for those vids & channels. Show in the sidebars to those vids...
IF they've got enough organic juice already. Which, I think, yours do.
So yeah. That.
I look forward to watching that :)
elementary questions, only theists think these questions are profound and difficult to answer because they have childlike mind.
Good answers, I haven't watched the Stefan video I'll have to check it out.
I like the ship analogy at the end.
Isn't it a proof that morality doesn't come from the holy books when a religious people keeps cherry picking their own book? They have the ability to judge their own book and the immorality in it and choose not to follow the immoral things in it and only follow the "good parts" aka cherry pick.
There is no cherry picking. There are laws and and there is a standard of right an wrong. But if atheistic worldview is true and that book is just some ink on paper. Then nothing matters we are just moist robots even of we do wrong things it doesnt matter
Unfortunately my biggest thought today, just like yesterday, is why the hell do I bother anymore? So I don't think I'm going to go through and add my answers to the questions. Yours seemed fine though.
3) We'll what if there is a god that is exactly like the Christian god except his name is Gregory and you must address him as such when praying to him or you will go to hell? But then, what if the exact same situation is true but this gods name is pumpernickel Mc scrabble and you must address him as such when praying or you will be sent to hell. This is exactly why a fear of the unknown should never dictate what you do
Like most of the commenters, i agree with pretty much everything you said, especially the point about question ten. You have to remember, religion has spawned more than simple dogmatism. What would an atheist statue look like? Would it be The Statue of Dave, rather than David? or what about other forms of music, art and literiture? Sure, C.S Lewis is boring as anything, and Bosche is just drug addled insanity, but they are provocative, and inspiring in their. own ways. I think it's best to ask, is it even possible to get rid of 'belief in belief', as Daniel Dennet put it?
Christopher Bell
a lot of music, art, and literature don't rely on any deity or religion but on imagination and emotions.
ladyunicornejg No arguement from me on that score, but isn't imagination a fundamental asspect of religion? Depictions of characters and events that either didn't exist, or didn't occur, are what fantasy fiction are all about. Could you say Tolkeins Middle Earth, or Pratchetts Discworld couldn' t exist without a nod to old world belief about the nature of reality?
Christopher Bell in that kind of sense, I don't think we will ever be rid of religion as mythology and basis for new ideas. We usually build on what already exists, and that's part of it. If religions as we think of them hadn't existed, something else would have had to be used to do a lot of the explaining and story telling, whether that would have been better or worse. But usually when I hear questions about the world being better without religion I don't imagine anyone is thinking if all mythology and previous ideas about the world vanished. Rather more often, I think, it's about the belief in them and their control over people, as well as the community and support they provide, both in a literal and tangible sense and in ways many discredit these days as being signs of weakness to even consider like the emotional support and hope. Mostly because I don't imagine anyone is trying to get rid of the religious stories, just move them into the realm of stories, fictions, mythology, rather than let them have such a hold on society. Idk though maybe I'm off.
ladyunicornejg The aural traditions of our past, when campfire stories were passed from one generation to the next, has been surplanted by the modern day internet. Now there is limitless oppertunity, for disseminating both religious dogma, and the sceptical replies to such. I don' t think we' ll ever be free of faith, but it would be a better world i think, if we had faith in hummanity, rather than religion.
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I agree. Knowing of religious fantasies is good for fantasy. But belief in religion is hindering.
I would say, a lot of scientists came to their ideas, because they had a comparison with religious fantasies.
9. Not every society has religion. Though quite rare there have been H/G cultures discovered that have no supernatural beliefs.
But we can sill examine your question a bit. What would you expect if a single God who ruled over all humans everywhere on Earth existed and wanted to give those people a chance to return to him, in the way Christians teach?
Personally I would expect such a God to give everyone the same religion, teaching all the people throughout time what they needed to do to return to him?
Now consider what you would expect if NO God existed and every isolated culture invented their own "religion" (supernatural explanations) to explain the world around them?
I would expect a widely diverse number of religions to crop up with a God, (or Gods) who hold the moral values and behavioral characteristics of those cultures who invent them.
Do not be mislead by how wide spread the Abraham-based religions are today. All of these religions sprang from a single seed started by a single tribe that lived in the Middle East.
All the other religions that exist today and have ever existed throughout all of human history (including pre-literate history) are all based on the cultures who invented them, exactly what we would expect if there was no God.
Yes, lengthy response. Break it into parts. Put up charts as you go along so we can follow as the discussion evolves!
I'd be interested in a long response video.
Anyone that isn't could probably tolerate it being split into three separate shorter chunks.
I totally prefer longer response videos. Actually don't usually want yours is often because I find them to be short and kind of incomplete. I kind of get the feeling that irritated with the process and cut things to a close much too quickly. I Probably wouldn't be an atheist if I didn't thoroughly analyze things. So when I du wissen to new information or conversations debate I prefer things to be thoroughly analyzed. Or at least have all or most of the information. Which I just don't feel your videos quite do.
Heaven probably wouldn't be all that great. there would probably be lots of murderers and pedophiles there. if they really believe that sincer belief in a god is all you need.
William mason: not to mention that you'd have all the time in eternity-=-to sing god's praises constantly. Not like you'll be playing "Halo" up there!
Please do a response video. I would love to see it.
Michael Dube I did. 😊 I did a two part video on Stefan's video.
I’m a christian, i don’t believe in everything that’s written in the bible, but I believe in god because everything in our galaxy is so precise that if one thing was done incorrectly we wouldn’t be alive and i don’t think that it’s possible for all that to happen randomly. You had very valid arguments and i respect them.
"Everything in our galaxy is so precise that if one thing was done incorrectly we wouldn't be alive."
1) This alone is simply not true. Planetary alignments, axial tilts, Goldie lock zones, the speed of light (given enough gravity), etc, etc, all shift all the time. And they shift a lot in big numbers, even Earth.
2) Life as we know it might not exist, that doesn't mean life wouldn't exist. Also why would a god need everything to be so "precise"? Couldn't a God just make what he wanted to work, well, work?
"I don't think it's possible for all that to happen randomly."
That is a very liberal use of the word random. I wouldn't call a series of chain reactions random. The universe is expanding this we know. Given the rate at which it is expanding, if we calculate backwards we get the "singularity". What ever cause the cosmic expanse to start is irrelevant at the moment, but it is expanding. All the matter and energy bumping into each other, pushing and pulling, absorbing and spitting out, creates chain reactions that are predictable. It's a very beautiful order to what seems like pure chaos.
The 'concepts' of gods has less to do with atheism than, well, showing gods exist. You can argue for agnosticism in that area, though that imo is more to do with people not really thinking about it than saying, "God _could_ exist, but I don't know." (More of a cop out really when someone actually has given ample time and thought on religion/theism but still professes agnosticism.)
But back to question #1, am I sure no gods exist? Answer: Absolutely! I will be more than happy to change my mind when evidence is presented that a god exists (read: when he/she/it shows itself), until then I'm an atheist. (Now wasn't that easy?)
-non est deus
SuedeStonn How can you be sure of it if there is no evidence for the nonexistence of god?
The absence of evidence for something only leaves you with agnosticism as to wether or not the thing exists. I don't have any evidence for the existence of flying monkeys, but I can't be absolutely sure they don't exist.
_How can you be sure of it if there is no evidence for the nonexistence of god?_
That's easy. Two separate arguments lead to the same conclusion:
1. There does not seem to be any evidence for god X. Therefore, there does not seem to be a way that belief in said god could have ever been justified. It is therefore very likely that god X does not actually exist.
2. There does not seem to be any evidence for god X. However, if god X did exist, we would expect there to be quite a bit of evidence. Therefore, it seems very unlikely that god X exists.
Since two separate arguments come to the same result, for pretty much any god ever, that means you can be very sure that no god exists. (Not 100%, but then there is nothing outside math and logic that can ever be 100% certain.)
This ignores that many gods (such as the Christian one) are actually connected to claims that are in conflict with known evidence, or even basic logic, which makes them even less likely.
Kai Henningsen Well, it seems the first argument does not follow with its conclusion. To say there is no evidence for a particular being is not to say the being is likely nonexistent.
But the second argument would be stronger if you could justify the second premise, that is that we should expect more evidence if a god existed. This can be done, but not without further justification. Jl Schellenbergs argument from divine hiddenness does this.
Now, I prefer the third way you mentioned. It seems to me that any worthwhile definition of god provides a basis to be disproven given either some contradiction with itself or given a contradiction with an external fact about existence. For example, god is typically defined as the creator of the universe, but the creator of the universe is a nonsensical proposition given certain facts about what it means to cause the universe.
Worthwhile definitions of god also usually include ontologically maximal values such as the foundation for morality or perfect love for his creatures or maximal excellence in every possible world. Each one of these properties are not possible given facts about reality.
I would like to hear a 45 minute response. Could you post a link for their argument so I can watch ahead of time. Wait, I'll find it. I like that you videos are short but sometimes I don't mind a longer directors cut extended version including deleted scenes.
If a longer video means you can breath between sentences, I'm all for it! This video sounded as if you were paid for the word-per-minute count.
A while ago I heard someone mention that we actually discovered a (what was called "primitive" in earlier times) society that had managed not to develop religion, supposedly frustrating missionaries because as soon as they'd discover those invisible friends were invisible, they'd lose interest. Don't know if true, but if so, that sounds interesting.
I have no trouble finding meaning when I want it, but I never understood why people wanted there to be meaning *of* life. Or, if someone actually created me for a purpose, why that should obligate me in any way. Plus, if all the bad stuff in life is according to some plan, that doesn't make me feel better - it makes me feel worse.
And the world would surely better off without authoritarian ideologies like religion, or fascism, or Stalinism, or etc.
Kai Henningsen Well, I think I'm improving. Voice recording is always the hardest part for me but I'm trying to continually improve.
Fantastic video!
This video is amazing , so true
definitely interested in 45min response video
Life Purpose
If Yahweh gives your life meaning, what is it? I don’t recall reading in the bible "The purpose of your life is X". Let’s say you think the meaning is something like "Spreading Christianity. Raising money for the church. Saving souls from Satan". What if that life purpose leaves you cold?
If you were an atheist, you could choose your own purpose. You might decide it was ending hunger, protecting the environment, promoting social justice… If you got bored with it, you could adopt another.
I have a short attention span so I would like 6 or 8 part responce videos discusing atheism as the blame for the western societies unravelling. Short responces are better for people with short attention spans.
I prefer to answer the first question with another question, If a god exists why would it be worth worship? I could certainly despise the god of the bible (if it is as described) and I suppose I could even work up the energy to respect a different god if it did something I considered to be better than its nature, but I see no coherent reason to ever revere a god except perhaps, if I was doing it just to get something from it, which would be by definition purely selfish and consequently totally insincere on my part.
Yeah do it sounds fun
I'd like a Molyneaux response.
1. yes
2. nobody knows. I think we just stop existing
3. I wouldn't want to be in it. I would want to just lose all my emotions and just stop existing. Then there is no boredom. No suffering. No joy. No care. You won't care that you can't be happy. Because you can't care.
4. From basic feelings. The human brain is designed to keep us alive. Helping others so that they will help us later in the future is a strategy that the human brain knows. If punching someone hurts and it makes them wanna punch you back. The brain will say "don't punch someone else"
5. Yes. We have do whatever we want unless its something that we physically or mentally cannot do.
6. It doesn't. Life doesn't have any meaning. Lifes only point is to survive. But why? The answer is no reason. There is no meaning to life
7. The human race is so stupid that we can't even comprehend how the universe was made. example: So what was before the universe? was it just nothing? Nothing has a color. So what happens when you touch that nothing? you just go into it. Maybe the universe doesn't exist, maybe its all just nothing with something inside of it. If nothing always existed then did time always exist? If time is infinite how would we get to how we are now. Since it goes infinitly far back.
8. When has there ever been a miracle where someone prayed to god asking for something and god gave it to them? (it has to be something that actually has a small or no chance for it to happen.)
9. Because humans want an explanation. A way to see whats the meaning of life. They don't want to just admit that there is no meaning
10. I don't know. Religion doesn't really do anything. I don't think much would change, maybe some holidays like Christmas, Easter, ect. would disapear but only kids care about them.
longer videos would be preferable for me. I would like to hear you give more in depth answers sometimes.
Well done!
With regards to #10, someone asking that question is probably thinking of their own religion rather then religion in general. Just look at the trouble Islam is causing around the world at the moment. That's religion and we'd definitely be better off without that. That said, if everyone thought the way those extremists do then the world may be peaceful because people wouldn't be killing other people over ideology. If everyone in the world was the same religion then the idea that religion is good even if it's wrong might apply but that seems rather unlikely to me. Given that we have Muslims killing Christians, Jews, Hindus, etc, as well as other Muslims, we've had Christians killing other Christians in Northern Ireland, etc, etc, the idea that religion is inherently a force for good regardless of whether it's true is just silly.
It may be the case that society would go down hill if and when we eradicated religion but my hope would be that that would just be an initial phase. With all that garbage out of the way, we could then get down to the business of actually solving our society's and our world's problems instead of arguing if a god exists and which one (or more).
I'm totally down for the lengthy video. I watch Noel Plum and he's not one to really shell out a 2 minute vid Hahaha.
45 mins. Sounds good.
For #10, it depends on the religion. If it was a religion in which people.fought for justice and were kind to one another, then yes. Lol
If you replace religion with humanism, then yes.
Turn that wooden rowboat into a 50ft yacht.
Yes, do a response video, but break it into 10-15 minute parts.
Nr 5. Short. Yes... but do we want to?
Would you really need forty five minutes to respond to Stefan? I know his videos are long, but you don't need to respond to every single one of his points, just the overall argument he's making.
You could probably do a whole channel on "QUESTIONS ATHEISTS MUST ANSWER!!!" Then again, it would be really repetitive.
9. Apophenia
777 likes. Coincidence?
Curious question In general I see a lot of atheists hating against theism like it's a disgusting immoral thing as a rule. The only immoral religion I know is Islam who do actual punishments that are most definitely immoral. Where these other religions dont. From what I see in America in Judaism being I grew up with a Jewish background and from what I've observed from Christians and others. There's seems to be a lot of love joy and happiness spread through all this. Isn't it counter productive for atheists to try proving how immoral and disgusting religion is. when in this country majority people being religious for a very long time. And also having a growthful healthy society in this country under all these delusional religious beliefs? Hope you understand what I'm asking.
You don't even know your beliefs, this is precious. Atheism: There is no God. Agnostic: I don't know. One is smarter than the other
Alexander Class No, *YOU* don't know our beliefs.
Agnostic deals with knowledge and atheist deals with belief. You can be both.
I don't *believe* in a god, but I don't know nor do I claim to know. I am an agnostic atheist.
Don't try to correct other people on a subject you know nothing about.
I love how theists can tell us what we believe. Who is more likely to know what I believe? Me? or someone I have never met?
Theism means belief in a God or Gods and A means without
A-theism is without belief in a God or Gods
Nothing in there about knowledge
Atheism - The lack of belief in God
I've been Atheist my whole life, in other words indoctrination into a Religion never happened to me.
If you ask me "do you believe in God" i will say "no"
But if you ask me "do you think there could be a God of some kind" i will say "i don't know"
This is Atheism.
I'm also agnostic because i would say knowledge is a good thing and we should try to obtain as much knowledge as humanly possible.
I'm also Anti-Theist towards the God of the Qur'an and the God of the Bible.
I've read both Religious texts and come to the conclusion (it's just my opinion) that these Gods are contradictions of themselves and in turn are an impossibility.
In other words, they don't exist.
Which means i'm an Anti-Theist, Agnostic, Atheist, all these labels are annoying, but because of what i think and/or believe, all three do apply.
Wow, long enough since a video that it says a day ago _and_ it's during the week? Not quite so overambitious now?
ladyunicornejg Haha. No. Just my work schedule is crazy. They changed my hours so today and tomorrow are likely a wash. Although I'm working on 3 colabs at the moment as well.
Okay so definitely still overly ambitious. :P Careful not to burn yourself out.
Nah, I'll not burn out. Work always comes first and I'm not rushing the colabs. I'm also wanting to do that Molyneux video and that will take a few days I think.
Days?! How long are you going to make me go without?! :P
Not serious, of course. I'm actually still trying to get past the whole "why do I try talking to people" thing. I'm bored, but in no particular hurry to have more conversations where I'm especially emotionally invested in my side of any argument.
If you're curious, it had nothing to do with the conversation I linked you to before, nor anything on your channel. Someone decided to derail a potential conversation by arguing against something never said and refusing to pay attention over "condescension" they read in (not intended when written, not sure how it could have been avoided, but I understand seeing it) rather than just say something or ignore it (wasn't meant for them, but a channel owner who had responded already) or anything remotely useful. Trolls wear on my nerves in a way, fighting with people who basically tell me either not to care or not to exist in public can tick me off, but the way that was done just managed to strike a whole different way.
well the bible is too writing right for a human to write it so I believe there is a god