its full of information and straightforward explanation. Not rushing to explain. You put it on every single detail why this and why that. Keep it up bro. its easy to catch up. thank you.
@@herowarssuddendeath As usual you did not disappoint. No counter the counter segment this time?? So I have come a long way with developing this team, Julius is maxed, Judge is 100k (finishing up Armor & MD skin and glyphs), Isaac is almost maxed (just needs Agility glyph), Nebula is only 74k and Ginger is the baby at 71k (I haven't invested in any skins or glyphs yet on her) but the team gets the job done. It is beating teams 100-150k higher than them. FART (as you pointed out) being the biggest road block on my server. I also mix in Amira (maxed out) instead of Ginger and that team does well. Additionally, I am working on Sebastian to mix in pending the opponent and I have tested the team with Astaroth as well. I am excited to test that Amira Lian combo with JIJ that you suggested (Lian is maxed for me also). My fart team couldn't beat that combo in training, so I will see how it does in Guild and Global Wars until my Ginger and Nebula get a little stronger. Thanks bro...great video!!!
Thanks for this great video. I am not able to beat it at this moment, what is bothering me enormous of course. But you gave me some more insight on how this team works, and especially how to counter it. I have no TAF and Mushy/nature build, so think I will have to work on Ziri (needs quite much attention) and Orion (needs only a little bit more) Hope some more ways to counter this team show up pretty soon...
You are welcome 👍 yeah it's really good and don't forget Ziri can't hold if Isaac crushes the armor with Nebulas boost 😵 we have here a mix of two components with a perfect synergy (JJI and ING)
@@herowarssuddendeath Can you test these teams against Julius-Judge-Nebula-Isaac-Ginger for me at max power? Corvus Julius Keira Nebula Fafnir and Corvus Julius Astaroth Keira Fafnir Won some battles against this team, but not at maxed power. Are they viable to beat it?
@@edauchikai i can tell you at max, corvus will die pretty fastly 🤣 I loved him all the time but with Morrigans rework, I can't really use him except for his counter teams. This team is really hard to beat but all heroes need much love 🙃
@@herowarssuddendeath I have tested this team in training, and for some reason it seems a 85k Corvus does a lot better than a 106k Asta. And he also increases PA and MA of his allies. My 430k team of Corvus Julius Asta Keira Fafnir could beat a 420k team of Julius Judge Nebula Isaac Ginger. Also, if I replace Astaroth with Nebula, I still could win. And my Julius is still below 50k... I am relatively sure a team of Corvus Tristan KDF can beat it.
@@edauchikai max jjnig team 1:49 = 260k dmg at corvus 1:45 = 200k dmg at corvus 1:42 = Corvus dead My 100k Keira does here only 189k the whole fight. Dorian doesn't help because of no dmg = no healing
I built this team with nebula and ginger and took the #1 arena spot despite being -60k power fromt he guy who used to hold it. He eventually copied my build and outspent me lol. I took that as a compliment. The thing that makes this combo so ridiculous is Ginger's violet ability also buffs nebula and isaac, those 3 basically are all buffing each other.
Haha I know that problem 🙈 it feels stupid 🙈 are you sure about Gingers violet? Is it physical att or additional dmg? The description says 2 different things 🙃
so I'm confused with another thing, is ginger/nebula 's violet buffed by artifact weapon buffs? like the violet skill buff will suddenly become ridiculous high when these cast their main skill
Nebula's violet increases with buffs during the fight (dynamic) while Gingers' is precalculated (static). It's similar to Sebastians violet, it is also static ✌️
Hi, thx for another one great vid. I dont have Judge and use Julius, Nebula, Isaac who work really good thx Nebula's buffs. Sebastian have good synergy with Fox, generally Fox is additional blocker or stopper of enemy team... Judge work really good with Lilith or Orion or Faceless... I like set my JNI with Aurora, this way Julius take 2nd place in the team... your vid is confirming all profits... Regards SdG
Your channel is great, keep it up. I learn the most about the game and its intricacies from you. But why do you prefer Ginger over Daredevil (the critical synergy with Julius)?
Thank you very much ✌️ Daredevil is great but she needs other support 🙂 especially the position is important for her Fire support ability. That's why Elmir is the best for her. This combo is great because everyone is protected by the shields and there is so much synergy (Ginger has also a buff for the others) and she has already a high native penetration value. So she goes through the tanks
Fantastic video! Great information and detailed research. I look forward to all of your content. Can you create a video about this team that explains what order to level glyphs/Skins etc? Like the one you did for the FART team. Thanks again!
Hey, thank you 👍🙂 I will think about it. Problem is now the damagedealer. So the question would be for all 5 heroes or just the main 3 like you see them at the picture?
Yes, I suppose it would have to include the damage dealer. My thoughts would be the most popular or “best” combo? Julius, Judge, Nebula, Issac, Ginger. Three hero’s needing a lot of agility stone skins 😮
Some chances but no countering. Almost sure they(developers) will release armor physical atack super skin for julius to get money. Super skins, all so far , making strong heroes even stronger so players that ffp have no chance at all to compete against donaters.
@@oleksandrshyiatyi6826 free to play is generally an illusion :) this game is more f2p friendly than it looks, you have to play just for a long time and invest your ressoruces wisely. Those superskins are tricky. Every upgrade has also it's disadvantage. Tell me the game where you upgrading things and your performance will be worse? :D Never seen this before
@@herowarssuddendeath what disadvantages fafnir and andvari got from there super skins? Amira .....fafnir began to counter her before it was satori . Mushi keira physical magic atack can't make any disadvantages aswell. Developers ruining game balance constantly!!! Because lvl hero taking so much time and resources to time when you maxed one good hero he began usless 3-4 months minimum if you have Evo book and saved resources and in active guild... Like with satori ....they buffed him he was super strong for couple months after I upgrade him they released iris julius . Before only tristan and phobos counter him....
Andvari was for example with 7k armor in some setups the lowest armored hero and shielded himself or yasmine attacked him. His high armor means also less lost life and that means less energy, what means slower ult and slower armor buff for the team 🙃 Amira is now target of tristans energy burning (except with faceless superskin) Fafnir is really the only one who has actually no disadvantage but like you said, we don't know the future. Keira does more dmg means earlier ult from all your enemies and if they release a new hero/rework who aims for physical attack then keira will be nr.1
Amazing! Pls I would like you to upload a video where we can see how to counter Kayla and Aidan. I saw videos where Morrigan and Corvus are not enough to defeat the fire twins. They currently are soooo broken
I'm currently working on that video. It depends of course on your power level and we can't see that they are broken 🙃 but I can imagine how the performance could be for strong siblings in the lower section 💪 What are your problematic setups?
can you tell us which heros to upgrade first, I only have Julius and Nebula somewhat solid, should I focus on Isaac and then Judge, then Ginger, or first Ginger?
This Julius team is a little bit special for the start. Best way to upgrade heroes is put the prio1 on your damagedealer (Ginger) then tank (Julius) then supporter (Judge/Isaac/Nebula). Skins blue for Ginger Red for Julius Violet Judge
Yeah this video was released before her rework. The counters are nearly equal, best with Luther because he stops Lucas jump. Iris is Astrids best counter but JJI helps her to survive the "normal" one. So boost her a little with Xesha or Nebula and Astrid dies very quickly 😉
@@herowarssuddendeath thanks for replying personally, love your videos! I was asking because I'm actually building the progress team with Astrid, and was worried for a second that I might be wasting my resources on her.
It's pretty hard to say which one is the best. I have no experience with Jet so far. But the synergy between Isaac and Nebula is so damn great. Especially because of the missing armor penetration. Nebula compensates this weak point pretty well through Isaac + she increases the shield power (sometimes through the movement it will reach Julius too and you get a big shield). Jet doubles only the damage but if the damage is reduced, you won't have a great effect. So I would think Nebula is better overall choice
I am building progress lineup with julius judge issac. So I am little confused between Astrid Lucas or ginger and nebula or sebastian. I know nebula increases physical attack of nearby allies so she would be a better choice but overall in game I believe sebastian is more reliable hero. What is your take on this?
Hard question 🙂 overall i would say Nebula is the better choice because the timings between Isaac and her are great and you get the constant pressure against many setups. Sebastian has of course a bigger impact if the crit is active but that needs a perfect timing between Gingers + Julius ult. Against Amira is Sebastian better 🙂
Really nice team idea. Also could you test Out this team: Andi Dorian peppy Helios Lilith. A bit odd i know. Dorian in 2nd Position . But all Heros are in his aura. Just curious if this team could do well. Would be amazing if U could max test it✌️
Problem is that this team needs really every hero well developed 😂 so if you are at the beginning and don't spend much, it could be ending in frustration. Julius needs at first max life as possible and physical attack. Ginger Isaac max armor penetration. Nebula needs also physical attack. So you should level the arte weapons of Ginger/Neb but bring Julius weapon at least to 3 stars for the chance to crit. Judge needs at first magic attack for bigger shields.
Unfortunately I'm not able to do all the max testing, so I can only guess 🙃 If you get a good timing it should work but it won't be a reliable solution. Amira is great but keep in mind Sebastian counters her and he is one more or less common hero in that setup
My Orion is unfortunately not great 🙃 Nebula boosts only Iris and I would guess, it won't work 🤔 julius power increases over time and your attacks are constant like their shields. It's necessary to get much damage in a short time. Iris does a great job to destroy the shields and makes the way free for other strong attacks (I could only win with lilith xesha phobos iris + tank)
@@herowarssuddendeath I think Orion can ulti faster and has magic penetration artifact to give to Iris, and iris with nebula boost magic attack can do the rest, but I haven't try this yet, so I have to analyze this before. It's needed max Orion to break the shield. Why you think Phobos works against them ?
Dont have Judge and Isaac :( is it possible to work with Peppy team ? Like Julius Andy Jorgen Faceless Peppy ? Julius could get shields from Peppy, Jorgen and Andy too
That is the nexter "trick". They release a new hero and let not often used heroes shine again 😂 Isaac is my 2. worst hero. I like Peppy but without Cleaver (+Xesha) only for specific heroes good. Julius at the front without assist is not the best. Faceless has btw less armor. And Peppy needs the self dmg of Cleaver.
@@herowarssuddendeath I am using her with Luther and have awesome results against teams without Faceless. I plan to move my Luther to Fart team and i think about Peppy +Julius. She give Julius shield with green ability, but its not protect only redirect damage. Isac probably could be good here too because of push enemy to one line and magic defense artifact, it could be strong against mages.
It's just a strong combo without Fafnir, which can resists against many many other combos. So It's strong in my opinion and other people can't beat them
Fafnirs "shield" doesn't count as shield, so julius physical attack doesn't increase. More effective is probably not possible. You can look at the julius tristan ginger fafnir video for example
I think you are talking about her magic penetration? If you havn't bought the superskin then you don't have to think about 🙂 the crazy amount of MP makes her super strong. The only trouble maker is Tristan. He looks for the most MP hero and burns the energy. That's the only disadvantage right now. Btw Faceless + superskin covers her and many didn't buy his superskin because it felt useless at that moment. To your question: No, you don't need the superskin because we have here also Orion, who provides overlappibg MP buffs 🙂 Keep in mind, Julius received a Magic defense skin + his additional skill buff. Without MP assist he will be over Amiras MP. It reduces the damage pretty hard (3000 MP = 50% dmg reduce)
So these counters Are there any specific things not to upgrade or can I just max out anyone to beat Julius Isaac judge judge ginger? I know there is something bout jorgen not to upgrade but what it is I don't know
No, there is nothing specific. Jorgen can be used effective very low, because his ultimate blocks the energy gaining. And the second one is his Leper skill. It redirects all physical damage to the last hero but only for a limited duration. So it can be sometimes really bad or good
I wouldn't say that in general 😅 You have always to think about because it can influence your own counters. The "balance" is of course created with max heroes and if you have all heroes, you will always find a way 😅
@@herowarssuddendeath I've never seen the team and nobody in my guild has all heroes leveled enough to test it. It's just a team I came up with because I think it might really work but no way to test. If you end up testing it and decide not to do a video about it, I'd still love to hear how it performed
Hey! Love the videos, always watching them and take them into consideration before many decisions. Right now I am indecisive because I want to go hard but it’s mad to upgrade many heroes. I’ve got three teams. FART with Lut and Cleaver. Progress and Nature. I have been doing FART most of my progression but I reallly like progress. Also, I have been getting bullied by Yasmine on my FART team and Progress handles her better so far. I was wondering whether I could get some advise from you? Is there a combo with Fafnir and Progress? Or should I just pump into one of those two teams, if so, which? Thanks in advance!
Thank you very much 🙂✌️ If you had the chance to get Oya, you should build her. She is very strong and fits very well in your TAF team. She counters also Yasmine pretty well. Kayla and Aidan are also very strong and they would fit into your setup. To your question, fafnir + progress isn't that popular. But Julius is a good assist there. For example Fafnir + Ginger works well with Julius Asta Tristan. Or TAF with julius. Nevertheless I use Astrid very often. Lucas doesn't get the buffs, so she is not that great in a Fafnir setup but a useful hero. So julius removing ability is often the key for the win but nowadays we use him not so often anymore. Newer heroes are nearly always a good choice and should be the prio (except cascade although he has potential) Tristan is still the best supporter Fafnir too, so no regrets here 🙂 If you face kaylas, you should think about Corvus
@@herowarssuddendeath I appreciate the thought out answer. I in the end decided to go for the Progress team. I still don’t have access to Oya but I’m keeping my TAF team. So eventually I’ll incorporate her. I also think I’ll get hold of an Octavia team, just got her. But that will be after getting both progress and TAF to 120. Once more, appreciate it and looking forward to seeing more of your videos! If you got a social media to follow your stuff, please link it up. I’ll gladly do so. And if possible, discuss another time with you!!
Okay, now I understand at which state you are 🙂 In your case focus your ressources. It's a long long journey and it's better to have one well upgraded hero than 5 middle or more lower upgraded heroes 🙃 The hardest decision: Choose your damagedealer. This one should be prio 1 Protect your dd -> tank or 2 tanks (Julius Asta for example). Asta needs no real investment as tank assist 🎁 Support your dd -> penetration assist like Tristan (only physical) and/or Fafnir (dmg boost/shield) -> magic heroes need other supporter So you can work simultanously at your heroes but prio 1 your dd with native penetration stats. Until you reached a certain step (like artefacts green finished ) then you can use the ressources on your second prio hero I will release one day some beginner videos but I'm too far, so I forgot many things 🤣 Do you have any suggestions what you think you might need?
@@herowarssuddendeath Yes please consider making a video for beginners please. While watching videos about hero wars, most of them about meta and advanced things. It's very binge to watch, tempting and really cool, I can't stop thinking about it. But I hope there is something similar stuff for beginners too, so beginners can also enjoy continuing their journey playing this game.
Possible yes but it's not that effective like in other combinations. Fafnirs shield doesn't count as "shield", so Julius passiv won't trigger and Isaac hits not really often like other heroes. We can't use this additional damage properly with Isaac. But Fafnir gets Isaacs PA boost, which could be nice.
The Amira Orion Combo with Other Tank possible too because dont have good ziri vs Julius Combo? And maybe instead of Celeste or nebula using faceless or joergen But Like using faceless Here?
Also ich habe mir das video nochmal angeschaut und weiß nun, was du meinst 😅 Also die gezeigte Combo mit Nebula hat 10:0 Ohne Nebula (Jorgen) 3:7 Cleaver Jorgen Faceless 0:10 Ziri Jorgen Faceless 1:9
@@herowarssuddendeath OK danke dachte einfach faceless mit seinen ult könnte helfen wusste nicht, dass du deutsch sprichst loool Muss Mal schauen wenn anstatt nebu Sebastian im Julius Team ist auf unserem Server gibt's nicht so viele Julius judge Combos aber es werden mehr hab ich das Gefühl Führt Amira ihr ult schneller aus mit nebu? Nebu Boostet, dass weiss ich, Mal schauen mein nebu hat ca 80k Versteh halt nicht ganz was die skins physical Attack nebu bringen in einem mage Team? Ich nutze nebu öfters mit Iris, da meine Iris noch nicht so stark ist Grüsse
Most of the combos can be beaten by Cleaver Luther TAF Other option are still mushy lines. If Astrid is there you can add Iris and should use Astaroth (to burn Isaacs energy) Yes, it's a powerful setup Or if you have it on your own, you can create similar lines but always with Astrid
i play this very build i seen people play Astrid over Ginger. Astrid vs Ginger? oh i also see people dropping NEbula and just ruinning double gun of astrid and Ginger? taughts?
Nebula + Ginger is much better than Nebula + Astrid Astrid has more some tactical usage and together with amira very good against some TAF lines. Double gun is nice and I can't really say if it's better or not. I used it sometimes against amira lines for a different timing but against Ziri still timeout. Nebula Ginger doesn't timeout in general
But you miss the fact that a nebula bossted isaac provides the necessary armor penetration + additional physical attack for the entire team 😉 Nebula 10:0 Mojo Mojo 1:9 Nebula
@@herowarssuddendeath try MOJO first he heals entire team and MOJO and Ginger kills enemy team very fast. I was surprised by his performance. There is a event right now where we play max heroes. And MOJO in that team Makes that team a total monster. I win 100% matches with not even a single scratch on any of my heroes. I love Nebula but MOJO just won I think and he is usable against Hydra too.
its full of information and straightforward explanation. Not rushing to explain. You put it on every single detail why this and why that. Keep it up bro. its easy to catch up. thank you.
Thank you too for your nice comment 🙂✌️
Yes!!! I was waiting for this one. Thanks bro
I hope you like it 😂✌️
@@herowarssuddendeath As usual you did not disappoint. No counter the counter segment this time?? So I have come a long way with developing this team, Julius is maxed, Judge is 100k (finishing up Armor & MD skin and glyphs), Isaac is almost maxed (just needs Agility glyph), Nebula is only 74k and Ginger is the baby at 71k (I haven't invested in any skins or glyphs yet on her) but the team gets the job done. It is beating teams 100-150k higher than them. FART (as you pointed out) being the biggest road block on my server. I also mix in Amira (maxed out) instead of Ginger and that team does well. Additionally, I am working on Sebastian to mix in pending the opponent and I have tested the team with Astaroth as well. I am excited to test that Amira Lian combo with JIJ that you suggested (Lian is maxed for me also). My fart team couldn't beat that combo in training, so I will see how it does in Guild and Global Wars until my Ginger and Nebula get a little stronger. Thanks bro...great video!!!
@@robertcatania1120 thank you 👍 no counter the counter because it was a fix combo in the counter part and we havn't this time a real smart counter 🙈
Fantastic video. Very helpful insights. Thanks for sharing. Love the way you present the information. Well done 👏
Thank you very much 🙂 ❤️
Thanks for this great video. I am not able to beat it at this moment, what is bothering me enormous of course. But you gave me some more insight on how this team works, and especially how to counter it. I have no TAF and Mushy/nature build, so think I will have to work on Ziri (needs quite much attention) and Orion (needs only a little bit more) Hope some more ways to counter this team show up pretty soon...
You are welcome 👍 yeah it's really good and don't forget Ziri can't hold if Isaac crushes the armor with Nebulas boost 😵 we have here a mix of two components with a perfect synergy (JJI and ING)
@@herowarssuddendeath Can you test these teams against Julius-Judge-Nebula-Isaac-Ginger for me at max power?
Corvus Julius Keira Nebula Fafnir
and
Corvus Julius Astaroth Keira Fafnir
Won some battles against this team, but not at maxed power. Are they viable to beat it?
@@edauchikai i can tell you at max, corvus will die pretty fastly 🤣 I loved him all the time but with Morrigans rework, I can't really use him except for his counter teams. This team is really hard to beat but all heroes need much love 🙃
@@herowarssuddendeath I have tested this team in training, and for some reason it seems a 85k Corvus does a lot better than a 106k Asta. And he also increases PA and MA of his allies. My 430k team of Corvus Julius Asta Keira Fafnir could beat a 420k team of Julius Judge Nebula Isaac Ginger. Also, if I replace Astaroth with Nebula, I still could win. And my Julius is still below 50k...
I am relatively sure a team of Corvus Tristan KDF can beat it.
@@edauchikai max jjnig team
1:49 = 260k dmg at corvus
1:45 = 200k dmg at corvus
1:42 = Corvus dead
My 100k Keira does here only 189k the whole fight. Dorian doesn't help because of no dmg = no healing
I built this team with nebula and ginger and took the #1 arena spot despite being -60k power fromt he guy who used to hold it. He eventually copied my build and outspent me lol. I took that as a compliment. The thing that makes this combo so ridiculous is Ginger's violet ability also buffs nebula and isaac, those 3 basically are all buffing each other.
Haha I know that problem 🙈 it feels stupid 🙈 are you sure about Gingers violet? Is it physical att or additional dmg? The description says 2 different things 🙃
Ginger's violet says that each time she hits, physical dmg (her basic attack) is increased. No way she's buffing mages dude. What are you saying?
Nebula is physical but text and reality are different 🙂 i have tested it later and it's really physical att and not additional damage (like fafnir)
so I'm confused with another thing, is ginger/nebula 's violet buffed by artifact weapon buffs?
like the violet skill buff will suddenly become ridiculous high when these cast their main skill
Nebula's violet increases with buffs during the fight (dynamic) while Gingers' is precalculated (static). It's similar to Sebastians violet, it is also static ✌️
Thanks ! Excelent Job !!
Thank you very much 🙂❤️
Hi, thx for another one great vid.
I dont have Judge and use Julius, Nebula, Isaac who work really good thx Nebula's buffs.
Sebastian have good synergy with Fox, generally Fox is additional blocker or stopper of enemy team...
Judge work really good with Lilith or Orion or Faceless...
I like set my JNI with Aurora, this way Julius take 2nd place in the team... your vid is confirming all profits...
Regards
SdG
Thanks too for your comment 👍🙂
Btw Lilith doesn't get the MA because of Judges shield 😉
@@herowarssuddendeath thx 👍
Thanks for your awesome video
Thank you very much 🙂❤️
Nice share. ❤
Nice comment ❤️
Outstanding info, Thanks 😊
Thank you very much :)
Your channel is great, keep it up. I learn the most about the game and its intricacies from you.
But why do you prefer Ginger over Daredevil (the critical synergy with Julius)?
Thank you very much ✌️
Daredevil is great but she needs other support 🙂 especially the position is important for her Fire support ability. That's why Elmir is the best for her.
This combo is great because everyone is protected by the shields and there is so much synergy (Ginger has also a buff for the others) and she has already a high native penetration value. So she goes through the tanks
@@herowarssuddendeath thanks, I had missed the huge difference in Armor penetration values of Ginger & DD.👍
You are wonderful, thanks bro
You too 😉 thank you ❤️
Videos are so informative love 💕 them
Thank you very much for your nice comment ❤️🙂
I'm glad you liked it 🙂 just as addition, they changed julius shield a little bit 🙃
Fantastic video! Great information and detailed research. I look forward to all of your content.
Can you create a video about this team that explains what order to level glyphs/Skins etc? Like the one you did for the FART team.
Thanks again!
Hey, thank you 👍🙂 I will think about it. Problem is now the damagedealer. So the question would be for all 5 heroes or just the main 3 like you see them at the picture?
Yes, I suppose it would have to include the damage dealer. My thoughts would be the most popular or “best” combo?
Julius, Judge, Nebula, Issac, Ginger.
Three hero’s needing a lot of agility stone skins 😮
Excelente vídeo 👍👍
Thanks ✌️👍
For the grand arena, I built a variation of this team with Arachne in place of Judge.
do you think it's better without Judge?
Hoping Keira will counter Julius more easily as well after the new PA super skin
I don't think it will be that great
Some chances but no countering. Almost sure they(developers) will release armor physical atack super skin for julius to get money. Super skins, all so far , making strong heroes even stronger so players that ffp have no chance at all to compete against donaters.
@@oleksandrshyiatyi6826 free to play is generally an illusion :) this game is more f2p friendly than it looks, you have to play just for a long time and invest your ressoruces wisely. Those superskins are tricky. Every upgrade has also it's disadvantage. Tell me the game where you upgrading things and your performance will be worse? :D Never seen this before
@@herowarssuddendeath what disadvantages fafnir and andvari got from there super skins? Amira .....fafnir began to counter her before it was satori . Mushi keira physical magic atack can't make any disadvantages aswell. Developers ruining game balance constantly!!! Because lvl hero taking so much time and resources to time when you maxed one good hero he began usless 3-4 months minimum if you have Evo book and saved resources and in active guild... Like with satori ....they buffed him he was super strong for couple months after I upgrade him they released iris julius . Before only tristan and phobos counter him....
Andvari was for example with 7k armor in some setups the lowest armored hero and shielded himself or yasmine attacked him. His high armor means also less lost life and that means less energy, what means slower ult and slower armor buff for the team 🙃
Amira is now target of tristans energy burning (except with faceless superskin)
Fafnir is really the only one who has actually no disadvantage but like you said, we don't know the future. Keira does more dmg means earlier ult from all your enemies and if they release a new hero/rework who aims for physical attack then keira will be nr.1
Have you tried Nebula between Julius and Issac for boosting both shields?
I tried it in my other julius vid and I said the timings are bad. The missing Judge shield causes also problems
@@herowarssuddendeath Ahh ok. Good to know thank you
You are welcome 🙂
Amazing! Pls I would like you to upload a video where we can see how to counter Kayla and Aidan. I saw videos where Morrigan and Corvus are not enough to defeat the fire twins. They currently are soooo broken
I'm currently working on that video. It depends of course on your power level and we can't see that they are broken 🙃 but I can imagine how the performance could be for strong siblings in the lower section 💪
What are your problematic setups?
can you tell us which heros to upgrade first, I only have Julius and Nebula somewhat solid, should I focus on Isaac and then Judge, then Ginger, or first Ginger?
This Julius team is a little bit special for the start. Best way to upgrade heroes is put the prio1 on your damagedealer (Ginger) then tank (Julius) then supporter (Judge/Isaac/Nebula).
Skins blue for Ginger
Red for Julius
Violet Judge
Did this video come out before astrid and lucas? Shes not mentioned at all, but seems to be in every progress team i face
Yeah this video was released before her rework. The counters are nearly equal, best with Luther because he stops Lucas jump. Iris is Astrids best counter but JJI helps her to survive the "normal" one. So boost her a little with Xesha or Nebula and Astrid dies very quickly 😉
@@herowarssuddendeath thanks for replying personally, love your videos!
I was asking because I'm actually building the progress team with Astrid, and was worried for a second that I might be wasting my resources on her.
i have seen this combo of heros but with Jet instead of Nebula. What do you think of that or is Nebula still the better choice?
It's pretty hard to say which one is the best. I have no experience with Jet so far. But the synergy between Isaac and Nebula is so damn great. Especially because of the missing armor penetration. Nebula compensates this weak point pretty well through Isaac + she increases the shield power (sometimes through the movement it will reach Julius too and you get a big shield). Jet doubles only the damage but if the damage is reduced, you won't have a great effect. So I would think Nebula is better overall choice
@@herowarssuddendeath OK. Thanks for the clarification.
Can you do a video on how to counter different Julius line up’s please?
JJI is very powerful and there are not many more counters than you saw in this video 🙃
I am building progress lineup with julius judge issac. So I am little confused between Astrid Lucas or ginger and nebula or sebastian. I know nebula increases physical attack of nearby allies so she would be a better choice but overall in game I believe sebastian is more reliable hero. What is your take on this?
Hard question 🙂 overall i would say Nebula is the better choice because the timings between Isaac and her are great and you get the constant pressure against many setups. Sebastian has of course a bigger impact if the crit is active but that needs a perfect timing between Gingers + Julius ult. Against Amira is Sebastian better 🙂
Really nice team idea. Also could you test Out this team: Andi Dorian peppy Helios Lilith. A bit odd i know. Dorian in 2nd Position . But all Heros are in his aura. Just curious if this team could do well. Would be amazing if U could max test it✌️
My Helios is a baby but I could kill it with aurora dorian peppy 🙃 aurora is a pain for that team. What is goal, win the defense?
@@herowarssuddendeath yeah defense but maybe even offense idc. Another team idea would be Tank, Tristan , Isaac, Ginger, fafnir
Then you have double agi heroes and Fafnirs buffs are random
Whats the best glyph and artifact priority for leveling this team?
You mean with Ginger Nebula or just this trio?
@@herowarssuddendeath yeah, with ginger/nebula. That’s the team I’m building
Problem is that this team needs really every hero well developed 😂 so if you are at the beginning and don't spend much, it could be ending in frustration.
Julius needs at first max life as possible and physical attack. Ginger Isaac max armor penetration. Nebula needs also physical attack. So you should level the arte weapons of Ginger/Neb but bring Julius weapon at least to 3 stars for the chance to crit. Judge needs at first magic attack for bigger shields.
Can Andvari, Celeste, Nebula, Amira, Faceless counter the progress team? I don't have Ziri and my Orion is weak. Thanks
Unfortunately I'm not able to do all the max testing, so I can only guess 🙃
If you get a good timing it should work but it won't be a reliable solution. Amira is great but keep in mind Sebastian counters her and he is one more or less common hero in that setup
Hei bro, have you tried iris, Orion, and nebula to boost their damage against JJI combos? Is it works ?
My Orion is unfortunately not great 🙃 Nebula boosts only Iris and I would guess, it won't work 🤔 julius power increases over time and your attacks are constant like their shields. It's necessary to get much damage in a short time. Iris does a great job to destroy the shields and makes the way free for other strong attacks (I could only win with lilith xesha phobos iris + tank)
@@herowarssuddendeath I think Orion can ulti faster and has magic penetration artifact to give to Iris, and iris with nebula boost magic attack can do the rest, but I haven't try this yet, so I have to analyze this before. It's needed max Orion to break the shield. Why you think Phobos works against them ?
You find the answer for phobos in the counter part 😉
@@herowarssuddendeath oke got it, thank you
Dont have Judge and Isaac :( is it possible to work with Peppy team ? Like Julius Andy Jorgen Faceless Peppy ? Julius could get shields from Peppy, Jorgen and Andy too
That is the nexter "trick". They release a new hero and let not often used heroes shine again 😂 Isaac is my 2. worst hero. I like Peppy but without Cleaver (+Xesha) only for specific heroes good. Julius at the front without assist is not the best. Faceless has btw less armor. And Peppy needs the self dmg of Cleaver.
@@herowarssuddendeath I am using her with Luther and have awesome results against teams without Faceless. I plan to move my Luther to Fart team and i think about Peppy +Julius. She give Julius shield with green ability, but its not protect only redirect damage. Isac probably could be good here too because of push enemy to one line and magic defense artifact, it could be strong against mages.
Luther works not bad with peppy that's right 👍
I'm having better luck with Sebastian replacing Nebula. Plays off Julius' Crit Hit buff.
Yeah the Sebastian combo is nice too :) also a little bit unexpected
@@herowarssuddendeath What would the best counter for this set up?
FART and mushy orion lines
So if you have so many counters, would you really consider JJI strong for defense?
It's just a strong combo without Fafnir, which can resists against many many other combos. So It's strong in my opinion and other people can't beat them
@@herowarssuddendeath Thank you!
No problem 🙂
how can i use fafnir in that team? which hero can i replace with him? and will it be more effective?
Fafnirs "shield" doesn't count as shield, so julius physical attack doesn't increase. More effective is probably not possible. You can look at the julius tristan ginger fafnir video for example
Which skin of nebula should I buy?
Physical attack and she has 2 of them 😅
Keep in mind never buy it with skinstones 😉
How about skin for judge?
@raydan6312 I would go first for his health then magic attack
Thank you
The mystic counter
Does amira have to maxed?
I heard maxed amira is bad is that right?
I think you are talking about her magic penetration? If you havn't bought the superskin then you don't have to think about 🙂 the crazy amount of MP makes her super strong. The only trouble maker is Tristan. He looks for the most MP hero and burns the energy. That's the only disadvantage right now. Btw Faceless + superskin covers her and many didn't buy his superskin because it felt useless at that moment.
To your question: No, you don't need the superskin because we have here also Orion, who provides overlappibg MP buffs 🙂
Keep in mind, Julius received a Magic defense skin + his additional skill buff. Without MP assist he will be over Amiras MP. It reduces the damage pretty hard (3000 MP = 50% dmg reduce)
So these counters
Are there any specific things not to upgrade or can I just max out anyone to beat
Julius Isaac judge judge ginger?
I know there is something bout jorgen not to upgrade but what it is I don't know
No, there is nothing specific.
Jorgen can be used effective very low, because his ultimate blocks the energy gaining. And the second one is his Leper skill. It redirects all physical damage to the last hero but only for a limited duration. So it can be sometimes really bad or good
@Hero Wars Suddendeath nice so these counters work no matter the upgrade
Thank u
I thought upgrade = braking hero
I wouldn't say that in general 😅
You have always to think about because it can influence your own counters. The "balance" is of course created with max heroes and if you have all heroes, you will always find a way 😅
I have the nature team just as yours but cannot make a dent. Do you know what could be wrong. Both the teams are around 450k
Is alvanor super skin a must?
Can you do a video on Julius, Judge, Amira, Lian, Helios? Helios can be replaced with Asta or Nebula
Sounds interesting. Do you have problems against it or where do you have the idea?
@@herowarssuddendeath I've never seen the team and nobody in my guild has all heroes leveled enough to test it. It's just a team I came up with because I think it might really work but no way to test. If you end up testing it and decide not to do a video about it, I'd still love to hear how it performed
I can ask my guildies to put it in training 👍
@@herowarssuddendeath that would be amazing, thank you
@@herowarssuddendeath any experiments yet?
Hey! Love the videos, always watching them and take them into consideration before many decisions.
Right now I am indecisive because I want to go hard but it’s mad to upgrade many heroes. I’ve got three teams. FART with Lut and Cleaver. Progress and Nature. I have been doing FART most of my progression but I reallly like progress. Also, I have been getting bullied by Yasmine on my FART team and Progress handles her better so far.
I was wondering whether I could get some advise from you? Is there a combo with Fafnir and Progress? Or should I just pump into one of those two teams, if so, which?
Thanks in advance!
Thank you very much 🙂✌️
If you had the chance to get Oya, you should build her. She is very strong and fits very well in your TAF team. She counters also Yasmine pretty well.
Kayla and Aidan are also very strong and they would fit into your setup.
To your question, fafnir + progress isn't that popular. But Julius is a good assist there. For example Fafnir + Ginger works well with Julius Asta Tristan. Or TAF with julius.
Nevertheless I use Astrid very often. Lucas doesn't get the buffs, so she is not that great in a Fafnir setup but a useful hero.
So julius removing ability is often the key for the win but nowadays we use him not so often anymore.
Newer heroes are nearly always a good choice and should be the prio (except cascade although he has potential)
Tristan is still the best supporter
Fafnir too, so no regrets here 🙂
If you face kaylas, you should think about Corvus
@@herowarssuddendeath I appreciate the thought out answer.
I in the end decided to go for the Progress team. I still don’t have access to Oya but I’m keeping my TAF team. So eventually I’ll incorporate her.
I also think I’ll get hold of an Octavia team, just got her. But that will be after getting both progress and TAF to 120.
Once more, appreciate it and looking forward to seeing more of your videos!
If you got a social media to follow your stuff, please link it up. I’ll gladly do so. And if possible, discuss another time with you!!
Okay, now I understand at which state you are 🙂
In your case focus your ressources. It's a long long journey and it's better to have one well upgraded hero than 5 middle or more lower upgraded heroes 🙃
The hardest decision: Choose your damagedealer. This one should be prio 1
Protect your dd -> tank or 2 tanks (Julius Asta for example). Asta needs no real investment as tank assist 🎁
Support your dd -> penetration assist like Tristan (only physical) and/or Fafnir (dmg boost/shield)
-> magic heroes need other supporter
So you can work simultanously at your heroes but prio 1 your dd with native penetration stats. Until you reached a certain step (like artefacts green finished ) then you can use the ressources on your second prio hero
I will release one day some beginner videos but I'm too far, so I forgot many things 🤣
Do you have any suggestions what you think you might need?
@@herowarssuddendeath Yes please consider making a video for beginners please.
While watching videos about hero wars, most of them about meta and advanced things. It's very binge to watch, tempting and really cool, I can't stop thinking about it.
But I hope there is something similar stuff for beginners too, so beginners can also enjoy continuing their journey playing this game.
can fafnir be added to Issac/ Julius?
Possible yes but it's not that effective like in other combinations. Fafnirs shield doesn't count as "shield", so Julius passiv won't trigger and Isaac hits not really often like other heroes. We can't use this additional damage properly with Isaac. But Fafnir gets Isaacs PA boost, which could be nice.
The Amira Orion Combo with Other Tank possible too because dont have good ziri vs Julius Combo? And maybe instead of Celeste or nebula using faceless or joergen But Like using faceless Here?
Are you german? If yes then you speak in german
@@herowarssuddendeath yes im ok dann deutsch ich dachte Chatsprache ist Englisch
Ich habe noch nicht so 100%ig deine Frage verstanden, deshalb wollte ich es einfacher machen 😉
Du willst JJNIG countern, richtig?
Also ich habe mir das video nochmal angeschaut und weiß nun, was du meinst 😅
Also die gezeigte Combo mit Nebula hat 10:0
Ohne Nebula (Jorgen) 3:7
Cleaver Jorgen Faceless 0:10
Ziri Jorgen Faceless 1:9
@@herowarssuddendeath OK danke dachte einfach faceless mit seinen ult könnte helfen wusste nicht, dass du deutsch sprichst loool
Muss Mal schauen wenn anstatt nebu Sebastian im Julius Team ist auf unserem Server gibt's nicht so viele Julius judge Combos aber es werden mehr hab ich das Gefühl
Führt Amira ihr ult schneller aus mit nebu? Nebu Boostet, dass weiss ich, Mal schauen mein nebu hat ca 80k
Versteh halt nicht ganz was die skins physical Attack nebu bringen in einem mage Team? Ich nutze nebu öfters mit Iris, da meine Iris noch nicht so stark ist
Grüsse
Can I counter them with Keira Dorian fafnir ?
My Keira doesn't have the talisman and double tank KDF 5:5
Luther Tristan KDF 8:2
Htf do you counter this set up
The counters are still working 🙂
It depends of course also on your opponent. What is your problematic combo?
Champs with silence ability. Prevents shields from buffing. Wrecks me everytime.
@@herowarssuddendeath Julius,judge,nebula,Seb, Astrid, ginger, Issac. Really any combo of that.
Most of the combos can be beaten by Cleaver Luther TAF
Other option are still mushy lines. If Astrid is there you can add Iris and should use Astaroth (to burn Isaacs energy)
Yes, it's a powerful setup
Or if you have it on your own, you can create similar lines but always with Astrid
If you have a good set up Cleaver/Peppy eat shields
i play this very build i seen people play Astrid over Ginger. Astrid vs Ginger? oh i also see people dropping NEbula and just ruinning double gun of astrid and Ginger?
taughts?
Nebula + Ginger is much better than Nebula + Astrid
Astrid has more some tactical usage and together with amira very good against some TAF lines.
Double gun is nice and I can't really say if it's better or not. I used it sometimes against amira lines for a different timing but against Ziri still timeout. Nebula Ginger doesn't timeout in general
Se puede reemplazar a ginger por orion ?
Yes but it's not so good then 😅
Ginger is the best
Astrid is good too
Remove Nebula and add MOJO there 😂 watch what MOJO and Ginger does to enemy teams supported by shields from Judge and Julius
But you miss the fact that a nebula bossted isaac provides the necessary armor penetration + additional physical attack for the entire team 😉
Nebula 10:0 Mojo
Mojo 1:9 Nebula
@@herowarssuddendeath try MOJO first he heals entire team and MOJO and Ginger kills enemy team very fast. I was surprised by his performance. There is a event right now where we play max heroes. And MOJO in that team Makes that team a total monster. I win 100% matches with not even a single scratch on any of my heroes. I love Nebula but MOJO just won I think and he is usable against Hydra too.
Yes, Mojo is super great and fits in every team 💪
countered by FART - yeah aren't they all? lol
Haha nearly yes 🤣
i am 180 with this team and i am able to defeat at Fart team at 239k . it gives me a impression that this team is superior to FArT
@@miftahulislam1291 it's definitely a great combo but FART combos are more flexible. Especially Luther helps here a lot 🙂