Simon Jordan QUESTIONS The Validity Of The Hacker Who Has REPORTED Man City's Emails! 👀🤔
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Simon Jordan & Jim White discusses a hacker is reporting emails of Man City's that allegedly might incriminate them.
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I don't understand what Man City have done wrong that affected them on the training pitch and on the pitch that everyone is getting their knickers in a twist about
The double standard when it comes to City from rival fans is mad..
Shut the Door behind you, Nothing to see here, Does Nobody realise that a hacker can also steel and also plant emails,
All Man City fans accepted there was a case to answer, we answered them at CAS and that's all we can go on. There was no evidence of wrong doing. The big question is who paid the email hacker....the red cartel 🤔
Who says there is no evidence of wrongdoing?
@@Lioness_UTV City would've already been found guilty and not simply "charged". One side cannot prove the other is guilty and the other side refuses to prove that they're innocent.
I thougt he was paid by a European club guess not
@@Lioness_UTV The Court of Arbitration for Sport
@@jph2856 I think if we wanted to hazard a guess it was a combination of Munich, United, Liverpool and Arsenal....the red cartel
Did Liverpool help him because they had also hacked city's computer system.
And Liverpool faced up to the wrong doing and took there fine.
Case closed
It was not even a news..Can you see the double standard here? That is a big crime..Imagine City doing that@docholiday-lm4vf
@@docholiday-lm4vf wonder how many times Liverpool did without getting caught, sneaky bum of a club?
Yes, i work for LFC and i paid him 10 million rupees 😂
@docholiday-lm4vf Nope... City settled the case out of court and didn't push it. Don't try to sweep it under a rug like it was minor. We just didn't drag and made a big deal out of it. It was a settlement not a fine.
If they see Assange as a criminal, then there’s no much to say about who they really are!
Is it not fruit of the poisonous tree though if he is illegally obtaining documents
If he’s a hacker or not the emails are real !
simon Jordan, the piers morgan of punditry, everyone hates him
Well, that's just not true, is it.
I would question the validity of any criminal... especially one who was charged for extortion
They are released to the German & French authorities as they’d be buried here.
Is evidence obtained in illegal ways admissible in court ?
Depends. CAS ruled it was admissible. Another body may see it differently but seems unlikely they'd rule it out.
I think Simon Jordan needs his hard drive checked!
That sounds more sexual than you probably intended it to be
Just some criminals trying to be heroes...weak attempt
THANK YOU
Its impossible to prove the over value charges . City obviously value things differently than the premier league. As do Chelsea. And villa. You have to go on an accountancy course now apparently to support your local team. No one said a word when utd were buying the dearest players. Or when arsenal were done as cheats.
Man Utd generate genuine income whether you like it or not. City struggle to fill the stadium most of the time. Are you telling me they have a worldwide fan base that generates the revenue streams they talk of? Sponsors will put vast amounts of sponsorship in, if there’s even more to come back through that association. Simple business.
Shocker the team who won for 20 years and has a worldwide fanbase and the largest revenue for a sports franchise can afford to pay for top players. Do you even think about what you type? The revenue affords them to have a higher cap on spending.........
it's not 115 financial charges, there's a little over half a dozen financial charges the rest are related to how City did or did not cooperate with the investigation.
@steveforde7475
It IS 115 charges, with the most serious arguably non compliance with the investigation (allegedly still ongoing)
@@dstewusa7054it's not 115 charges, it's 5 charges, 115 breaches.
Simon’s check must have cleared lmao
cheque
@@silvertain1978*cheques
Why because he’s not saying what u want him to say?😂😂
@moedoe188 basically.
😂😂 his opinion doesn't equal yours sausage?
I notice that they never mentioned that he said he had evidence on other teams as well including other premier league clubs
The guy is under witness protection for a reason simon.
Yeah because he is a criminal who struck a bargain.
Manchester City isn't the reason
Received death threats. Certainly something city has instigated...who else could it be?!?
Yeah Spanish president
@@kadarabdullahiHe may potentially save football.
The fabric of football business is involved with decades of financial and political corruption. Fifa and Uefa received hundreds of millions to reward certain countries with hosting tournaments. Now they’re after a club owner who brought top player and staff and improved premier league
He at least improved his team. If City are guilty of breaking rules which are really questionable....fine deal with the punishment. This massive outcry to bring them down before the guilty verdict is pathetic though. Because the fact is ...an owner investing his money, not yours or mine, into making a once successful club successful again is no real crime now is it? 🤨
There are different type of hackers . Ethical , white or black hat . It depends so that the evidence could be used
Can Netflix or Amazon make a documentary about this hacker please?
Pretty sure Netflix alreadly has done, it's pretty cool, man city is just a tiny part of it, the other stuff is wilder
"Misdeclare income" "Reclassification of Revenue"
You mean fraud? Any fraud over £1m is an automatic minimum sentence of 4 years and it goes up from there.
Will we see Sheikh Mansoor in Belmarsh?
😂😂😂😂
behave, most silly comment ive seen in years.
You're smart ain't ya, "misdeclare" indeed 😂
@@mikey8718 Misdeclare- Verb. To declare wrongly; to declare erroneously.
@@overcorpse I can just imagine your excitement when you realised that 😆 ok specky you got me
Simon speaking from a position of ignorance
You're not wrong, ducks don't talk, they quack.
Yes you know more than Simon 😂
@@Stewart-yp7pqWhether he does or does not is irrelevant; the point still stands that Simon’s views emerge out of conjecture, and possibly an ulterior motive.
“Just a beach of the rules”
Enough said.
@@Stewart-yp7pq simon is a corrupt twat
You know the worlds messed up when the only way wrong doing gets caught is from hackers.
Or sausages like you who believes an extortionist.
All a psyop for the sleeping sheep, all the billionaire club owners are frremason devil puppets to be the face of the club, but only the the eljtes own everything we got access to and know to in tbis rigged reality
Simon downplaying fraud…just another Tuesday….
No crime has been committed 😂 bar the clear shakedown for money off the hacker
City have had years to produce the requested accounts but have been obstructive..they're deflecting to take the spotlight off themselves.
@@TheMercWithMouth and they have been produced to the required authority now that's why it's all being processed thru the courts or does your entitled delusional self think they will all be released publicly
If City are guilty of breaking rules which are really questionable....fine deal with the punishment. This massive outcry to bring them down before the guilty verdict is pathetic though. Because the fact is ...an owner investing his money, not yours or mine, into making a once successful club successful again is no real crime now is it? 🤨. Or is it a crime to the jealous who really should demand more from their billionaire owners?
@@drep9028 I understand the point you're making..but if in the F1 a new competitor turns who has the best driver, engine, pit crew etc without having earned to be F1 by going through organic levels of growth then it's not right and ultimately not good for the sport in general.
Eg tomorrow someone else can come in do the same and year later someone else..what you find is that long term competition becomes defunct because it's about who has most money not who can nurture and grow talent.
'hacker' does not mean imply nefarious intent. We have 'legit' authorised govt entities whose primary method to 'protect' is to perform a 'hack'
if there was information about someone cheating, or planning to steal from me, or planning to murder me. i wouldn't care how the information came to light - i'd care more about the information itself.
Fortunately you're not the law.
well you said it exactly. Man city didn't murder anyone, nor plotted to commit one. listen to Simon clearly. check your ears coz you're not hearing right
How do you prove they aren't doctored? The common sense thing to do is to beef up your security just in case no?
good job you are a nobody and not in a decision making job
@american.imperialism typical clueless inbred yank
The reason Simon is probably is because the FA is doing nothing. Actually, the European Court of Arbitration might step in
Everyone believes in hackers. The world is messed up.
Pinto said he was shocked at the amount of tax evasion and dodging he discovered in his hacking career.
Presumably he is going to declare all his extorted ill-gotten gains to the proper authorities and will happily pay the large amount of tax due on it.
Anything else would be criminal , but I suppose he could add it to the 377 other criminal charges he faces.
Oh, and part of his sentencing was that he cease his criminal activities , yet here he is touting more illegally gained material.
He’s either a bit thick or he thinks he’s above the law.
He isn't at it again. This has been requested by the prosecutors. In other words he is being compelled.
Thats not how the law works Jordan😂😂😂...if you murder someone and hide the body in your home and some robbers trying to rob your home and found the body and contact the police...you're going to Jail😂😂😂
The difference is that you can fake documents but can't fake a dead body..Use your brain next time
isn't this like someone saying that I found something dodgy in your house when I smashed in and robbed it. begs the question why are people acting on evidence obtained illegally . aren't they aiding and abetting a crime
I would not say they are aiding and abetting a crime exactly BUT they are setting a precedent. He did claim he has leaks from other clubs and players. Watch this space
All that money City have put into football. All the tax that they've paid. Shocking.
All the artificially inflated sponsorship deals. All the contempt for other competing clubs that DID follow the fairplay rules. All the stolen trophies... Shocking.
What part of cheating do you not understand, if the rules were broken then they cheated. Rules are Rules. Why is it fair that City got an upper hand on the rest of the league for almost a decade. Who cares if the have BIllion's to invest, they have to follow the financial rules like all of the other clubs. City fans are blinded by their own success. They just choose to overlook the fact that they potentially cheated. If City are found innocent of all the charges then they can take the moral high ground. Until then be quiet and wait.
@@temporaryuseraccount0012 All the other football clubs that benefited from the investment, Shocking
like armstrong bringing american money into european cycling. yay
@@hotdog9262 it's nothing like that but you can pretend if you want to and anyone that says "yay" I'm guessing does a lot of pretending.
Simon cannot say the City should not have 115 charges. They broke the same rules repeatedly, year on year. Where was this argument when Everton were charges and punished twice for the same breach in different years.
Ahhhh another mongo who can’t understand there are different kinds of cases
You can’t say that every other club in football has always followed the rules. Who do you support?
So what if they are guilty. Inflating a few sponsorship deals to increase their revenue is not crime of the century! Furthermore, those sponsors are all owned by Sheikh Mansour so he should be able to do what he wants with his own money. This is why city are taking legal action against the premier league because it’s unjust and should be allowed.
@@Cityzen567I find it hilarious that average football fans pretends to give a monkey about where the money comes from. Money is money and that is where the jealousy comes in. Where is the moaning about Liverpool’s blood money? The other FFP charges? Arsenals Littlwoods “financial doping”. The rags Sky doping… just people having a tantrum because their team isn’t winning anymore. Most of them haven’t seen their team play or have any connection with the town or city.
@@GWJUK Bang on mate! Couldn’t have said it any better. Other fans are so sanctimonious when it comes to their own teams as if they’ve never put a foot wrong. Most of them just jump on the anti-city bandwagon without knowing what we’ve actually been charged with. It’s so pathetic.
You clearly are a clueless person, please read(if you can) the difference between Everton's charges and City's, you will more than likely learn something.
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Definitely on the red cartel payroll.
You're just angry that City couldn't get him on theirs.
Imagine being a city fan and complaining about people being on a payroll!
Where was this criminal when Uefa needed him? He is talking from his backside.. Show us the evidence then or go to sleep
Can we get actual financial statements this time? That would be nice.
You can't have it both ways@rakimrobinsonMCFC
City's lawyers have said the emails are real.
Wasn't his evidence used as part of the original UEFA investigation? I think it was part of the defence for City that even if the alleged info is legit if it's obtained illegally it can be made inadmissible. Probably also the reason it can't be released or else it's basically a mistrial as it biases the verdict in advance (although this happens in most legal proceedings anyway). Assuming that he's now suggesting he's found more.
You could show oil FC fans undisputable evidence regarding these 115 charges, and they will still say it didn't happen, oblivious and clueless fanbase all 8 of them
@PROWHITE1977 reread your comment and realise what childish behaviour looks like.
@PROWHITE1977it's hard to believe someone born in 1977 gets on like a toddler on RUclips, I guess you are just compensating from the inevitable consequences of 115 guilty ffp charges
@PROWHITE1977 you twit.
@@silvertain1978victimpool fan by any chance 😂
City plastics triggered 😂
Surprised they have not got stefan on to do his defence of city.
He'll be on soon enough giving us his "impartial" views.
@@riccardobrogelli3550 you mean the view that is not agreed with you what do you know please tell us answer you know f all
You do realize that the hacker claimed to have information on other big clubs and premier league players right? I would worry more about what he's going to release about my club and my players 😕
Comments like this are hilarious. Stefan is very objective every time he comes on but you don't like it because he doesn't just say city are 100% guilty like the majority of other people
Hackers hack, and a lot see it as a point of pride in being able to hack the most secure of data, there may be a commercial incentive in what he does, but it may be just another trophy in his cabinet.
As for City everyone knows they have inflated their income and continue to. They should lose all their titles and be demoted
who is this everyone? go testify, ffs. being a keyboard warrior doesnt prove anything.
@@alone2break well when I worked at Etihad we all knew. There was an office on the second floor of HQ, mainly occupied with government staff.
right
Demoted so you can feel better about your club?😂 If you're a Brentford...I understand, you can't compete financially with the big boys. If your a Arsenal or Utd...do better and start with fixing the leaky roof. Wanting to win because the best team is kicked out of the league instead of raising your standards is really really weak
@@drep9028 But City Cheated, i mean its really not hard to understand. Everything you have created is from having an upper hand. Why do you always play the jealousy card?
I'm not Jealous, i'm a ManU fan we have plenty of trophies, and success and we did not cheat to get it. Clubs go through highs and lows.
Doesn't matter what his motive is, or if they were obtained illegally (prem commission doesn't care how they were obtained). If city have been doing dodgy deals they should be punished.
Doesn't matter, in what world do you live in?
I don’t think you quite understand how illegally obtaining information relevant to a case makes the evidence inadmissible within a court of law. Stupid comment, stupid person. Before you give your views on something learn a little bit more about the topic. Idiot.
@@jamesnorrah1316Think he means that as it ain’t a court of law there’s no loophole to escape like the CAS case
IF
Exactly. That's like saying the crimes Assange exposed doesn't matter because they were obtained by whistle-blowers
LOL! ". . . there has to be SOMETHING . . . ." Poor Simon. He's begging for City to be pegged for something, SOMETHING, that comfirms his attacks on the Johnny=come-lately of giant clubs. But, but, but, Man City was always a lesser club; fun to beat up on matchday, easily dispatched from mind when the top of the table is up for grabs. Poor Simon. And now talkSPORT HR is on the lad to be extra nice to Whitey since Scotland shite the bed. Poor Simon. Let the Drive-For-5 begin! C'mon City!
People are truly biased refusing to acknowledge what Simon is actually trying to say and the fact that their clubs are probably as corrupt as City but whatever, they're either guilty or they aren't.
Suuure. Im sure southampton is as corrupt as city. Sit down lap dog.
whats the problem if eventually the emails are proven to be legit?
Shouldn't be a problem...it's just the way those snake owners at city carry on.
@@TheMercWithMouthWe've broken you
@@stu2333 gloryhunters ain't broken sheet son ..but glad you didn't deny you're snakes 😂
The boomer woke neocon Simon Jordan doesn't like a hacker wow colour me surprised.
Simon sounds like an apologist for Man City….
Has he been given a bung by a Sheikh ?
“All they’ve done wrong is misrepresentation of revenue “
Repeatedly over 12 years Simon which enabled them to cheat and buy the most expensive players and win multiple trophies BY CHEATING Simon !
That’s all they’ve done 115 times minimum
Although the information has been achieved by a hacker, it shows the self-evidency that Manchester City have broken many FFP rules, including PSR and APT rules.
Mind you, they would not release those documents voluntarily. It's the same with them not admitting any wrongdoing. I find that morally unacceptable, even downgrading. If City admitted (even some of) their breaches, they woud get at least a little respect for being honest.
SHAME ON TALKSPORT FOR FAILING TO MENTION THAT THIS "HACKER" IS A CONVICTED FELON!
I guess, it takes one to know one (Man City's owners) then. 🤣
So is Julian Assange and Edward Snowden
@@Adam-ui4ef TBF, Assange was a publisher.
soon to be city then ....cheats 😂
You do know how blackmail and extortion works? City didn't pay up😂😂 So he put their cheating out for all to see, should have paid him.
Manchester City have a case to answer. Well, 115 cases to answer to. However, innocent until proven guilty.
If City are found guilty of Fraud, that is a nation state been found of fraud, the UK Goverment wont allow this....as i coukd effect Trade between UK and Qatar
Lets face it, if there was anything of true value the hacker would have tried to get paid off city
"Let's face it" seriously? You would be an incredible investigator.
@@diddyxl thanks
Sounds like he has tried to do just that. The suspended 4 year sentence for attempted extortion is a red flag.
@@adametchells7782 not a red flag but guaranteed proof
Maybe he thinks the english justice system is corrupt? Manchester city have lied and tried to hide evidence at every opportunity during this saga. What is Simon drinking 😂😂
Choice is get rid of FFP. Or keep the FFP rules and get United and Liverpool winning more trophies again.
If it talks like a Duck, if it looks like a Duck, and if it walks like a Duck, its obviously Simon Jordan.
They are murdering football in England simon...
You are the kind of person he talked about who is jealous and bitter and just wants to see city fail.
You do realise that you he hacker has things on other premier league clubs so just chill out ffs
Damn this guy probably got inspired by Julian Assange who just got released
Simon's stance on City has changed drastically..are you thinking what i'm thinking..🤔🤔😂
I wouldn't question the validity of the hacker, if they say they have evidence they no doubt have evidence. Problem is that it doesn't matter how much evidence he has, it's only going to help man city's case as it has been obtained illegally
Obtained illegally which led to an investigation though. They haven't complied with any investigation. Why would an 'innocent' club behave that way? City got caught with their pants down from a phishing email no doubt.
City deflection is pathetic af..you've been caught.
City have had years to produce the requested paperwork and now we know why they haven't.
@@solskjaer1195 Mate, if you wanna investigate someone, you'll find a way to. No one is surprised they went after City.
@@pfft5795 No they went after them because they are cheating gits. City could have cooperated and made all this go away years ago. Why didn't they? They can't explain it because they've been rumbled
Criminal giving evidence says it all convicted felon I rest my case ctid 😮
They can beat city on the pitch so they try to beat them in the court of public opinion
Rui pinto lol Sounds like a squad player in mourinho's porto team
Very odd and weird take from simon this. Vwry disturbing.
Why Simon sat down with arms crossed all the time !!!!
Simons offshore account just put on a right bit of weight
I don't know him. But he's a bad guy. God simon dumb
Hackers doesnt need to be criminals lol 😂 brexit brain
Talk of conspiracy didnt mention parmalat
In your head in your heads zombies zombie's
Simon is Man Citeh's mouthpiece these days
plenty of hackers do their thing to expose all kinds of bad/evil behaviour. simon jordan is a nutter
But this guy does it to blackmail people. He's not saving the manatee.
Simon is made for RUclips
Could be a white hat hacker
115
Is your missus body count.
Y’all just hate to see city on top.
Yeah it's pathetic.
If City had won everything with no upper hand, no financial doping or cheating then hats off to them. BUT.....yes people don't like to see cheaters win things.
@@marksedman2267 and United is innocent? Please, they just don’t have anyone hacking them. Every club is under the microscope except United who spends more money than city and has nothing to show for it
@@marksedman2267 they've spent less than other clubs, so how is it cheating? So there clubs are allowed to spend more without punishment? How is that fair?
@@Mikejames1080 You was the fastest sperm. Damn. Guess that doesn't transfer to logic.
Geeeeeez this guy is odd
Who is behind this man, I find it hard to believe that he woke up one morning and decided to go after city???
Rui Pinto works for PL executive as a disguise.😅
He hasn’t, he has tried to blackmail other companies to and also claimed to have other information on other Premier League clubs
It doesn't matter tye motive. If there's still crimes being exposed. That's like saying the crimes Assange exposed don't matter because he obtained the evidence through whistle-blowers
The red cartel maybe
@matthewjamison How do you know those documents are real?
I bet Jim has met him
Jordon full of BS
This hacker is under witness protection for a reason. There's threats on his life now why would there be threats to him & for him to be under witness protection if he didn't have a stack of evidence that exposes City for all their wrong doing??? Come on Simon get a bloody grip of yourself man. The ignorance within u stinks
hacker or not.. we all know City is guilty. Smell the fish Simon!
Guys what Simon said in this video is catagorically wrong on somany levels its actuually crazy.
Sumon does.not understsand this topic well yet keeps yapping about it.
Simon Jordan doesn't know about hackers or how the most vile criminals are caught via hackers
Lol Simon wants to be paid. Man been on City's payroll been said it
😂 another knobhead who is upset Simon doesn't agree with his city agenda
The same guy who's been found guilty for falsleyfying emails.....bayern munich...have questions regarding ther relationship with him!
The bottom line is, regardless of ffp, city committed a very serious crime of commercial fraud. The company “giving” money lied to shareholders and the government about the expenses they are paying and the “receiving” company lied about revenue to shareholders and the government. If any other company does that you’d get jail time.
I don’t care if he’s a hacker or not, good information is good information. Not good for city
Gone are the days when the focus were on the actual information rather than who out it...
Now there's mostly focus on the individual and not what's actually being delivered...
It's a dash to silence rather than account for what's being said...
Try say that when regarding ANONYMOUS they dont have alternative motive
How does Simon question his validity? This is the actual guy who got all the documents. Simon is a City apologist
Wrong doing is wrong doing. If someone had say broken into the City offices and stole their files, it's a crime like this hacker's actions are. But showing City broke the rules is still breaking the rules. We all know City will get away with it of course, money talks.
Should change the rules , all clubs should have a maximum spend , 200m a year .
So billionaires can make more money?
@russellward4624 f1 have a spend cap now 150m a year . If football did the same, then clubs would all have the same money, and it would stop one club buying all the best players
Maybe because he’s in that country Simon . So they get the info then pass on to relevant governments
🏆🏆🏆🏆
Simon's deffo scared his bribe payments are going to be exposed
the only fair thing for city is for them to be completely removed from the english leagues life time ban on owning english clubs
In other words just pay even more money to get themselves out of trouble. I don't think that's going to fly in this situation Simon.
wasnt there a footballer called Rui Pinto?
HACK THE PLANET !!!!!
So, what is happening with the current lawsuit?
The hacker is known to tamper with evidence.