Glad it was helpful Tami! And this was 9 years ago, quite early in my belt reviewing career. :-). I just got 5 new belts in the mail today to review. What was different about my vid than the others?
Got the operator for concealed carry. Was using a regular old leather belt but it wasn’t sturdy enough. At 48 dollars at sportsman’s, the operator is perfect
Thank you for a well and informative video. I stumbled across your channel a few hours ago and seem to have hit the jackpot :-) I am a massage therapist and have started wearing the 5.11 pants which I find very comfortable throughout the day my next purchase of course is the operators belt. The operators belt looks like it's dirty enough to handle my Glock 30 and it's cross breed holster Super Tuck design .
Just commenting here to thank you for the videos, specially this one and the one about the 5.11 stryke pant.. Helped me a lot in deciding between the pants. Sorry for bad english.
I looked this up because I needed a new belt. Had to do a double take because I recognize your channel from drumming videos, didn't know you did guns and gear videos too lol.
Great review. This is the best review, with the best details of these belts. I now can buy the trainer belt based on the details you revealed. Thanks so much.
I've been wearing a wilderness belt for a couple of years now. It's an awesome belt as well. pretty much the same as the 5.11. they do over a titanium buckle for another $40 or so.
Hi Snareman. Great Vid by the way. Very good Information. All my Equipment is Tactical since I'm in The First Response Team, United States Civil Air Patrol. A couple of years Ago I was flying to NY and was Wearing my Civil Air Patrol Shirt With the matching Blue 5.11 pants And tactical Black Web Belt with Government ID in Hand. TSA still Made me take off the BELT and SHOES to be PLACED in their Plastic box to be run thru the X-Ray. But it all depends on the Airport you're going thru. Coming Back from the Oklahoma City Air Force Base I had No Problem Going thru with TSA. I had my Government Credentials in Hand and TSA Recognised my ID from The AIR FORCE and let me pass without a hitch. But AGAIN being they are Practically Next Door to The AIR FORCE BASE the TSA In OKLAHOMA CITY AIRPORT are used to seeing Military Personnel come thru their Domain. THANKS AGAIN for YOUR VIDS. Lt. Gilbert Osuna Civil Air Patrol United States Air Force Auxiliary
Just got the tdu green operated 1.75 fits perfectly on my Levi's 501s. Can't wait to try my in the waist band! Quick note! The buckle broke on my big thick leather belt while Christmas shopping. My gun fell into my pants I ran in the dressing room. Lucky the coat I was wearing had a good size inner pocket or I would have been in some trouble. Realized the importance of a good belt. Regular belt don't cut it and will fail in the worst place.
The belt is the operators model that's 1 3/4 inches, I am glad to say it fits all of my holsters and magazine carriers. Both my G30 (45auto) and G27 (40cal) are held tight and close to the body, very comfortable...
I have the trainer for almost 4 years and still going strong. Recently I bought the operator belt and the buckle fell apart in less than a month of normal EDC use. The center piece fell off, i took it back and they exchanged it for a new one and it the same thing, so i believe it had some faults. I wrote 5.11 and they offer to exchange it but i told the rep it makes no sense, so he offered me a discount on future purchases. Try twisting the center part at an angle and see your own falls out .
The operator belt works well as a self defence with the steel belt buckle and the velcro make it very efficient at moving form your waist to your hand (assuming you have the 5.11 tac pants) using the velcro to make a handle in a second or faster. Can also be used to restrain an attacker by making a look with the buckle after you have subdued your attacker. I don't carry a gun but am I a wheel chair and belt also make a good lasso that will tighten around what you ring it on by pulling the velcro end (turned into a surprisingly comfortable hand hold that seem as it were made to wrap around a wrist and threw your hand), plus it keeps a circle shape and will not fail to ring a neck if an attacker is within range. Also hear that you could break a bone with the buckle. (warning take a self defence class and lean how to use it before your in a situation that you need the skill for, seriously its not a toy you can hurt yourself)
I was looking at getting the Double Duty TDU by 5.11 with the plastic buckle ($17 cheaper) but your review just talked me into the Trainer belt, I literally just placed the order for the tundra colored one with the Stainless steel buckle. Thanks for a very helpful review.
pt2. It seems that the 5.11 design changes to the buckle are just made to avoid patent infringement (but don't quote me on that since I haven't looked into Wilderness Tactical's currently held patents). The wilderness belts are also made in the USA and proudly stamped showing that. I think anyone considering purchasing these belts would be better off and have less buyers remorse looking at the Wilderness products from the get go.
Juat got one today and came to look at the review after. Weird order i know 😅. Then i looked at the time stamp, 12 years ago ! Wow ! Great review though.
I have done modifications to a lot of gear . I bought a knockoff belt for 8 dollars that says 5:11 on it . Although it is not 5:11 and it's stitching sucked for lack of a better word . As well the sizing was off . The 3 mod's I did to make this belt comparable to that of an 80 dollar belt were as follows . First I doubled the stitching all by hand as I have not yet learned to sew with machine as of yet . It only took 2 days of use before the velcro stitching started coming off so doubling the stitching of the velcro was the first thing . Secondly I could not tighten the belt to the right size so I added velcro to the belt . I used salvaged velcro I gather it here and there as I run across it . Taking it off things people throw by the roadside etc . You don't have to buy it nor do you have to always buy shock cord or nylon if you use creative thinking . Later I was bored and had been watching escape and evade videos and gear reviews and seen something that had not been done in the way I envisioned it . What I did next was to add 2 small velcro pockets to the inside of the belt . The pockets measure 3.75 inches wide by the width of the belt which is 1.50 inches . I fist sewed the little pockets out of a nylon material from an old lunch bag..Once I had the little rectangular pockets . I added velcro to fasten them shut . And finally I sewed them to the belt . First putting one in the rear and secondly adding one to my left side . These little pockets are great for hiding money from your wife ,she will go in your wallet but never in your belt! No more looking like an idiot when you go to buy something and don't have as much money as you assumed . As well as the inspired reason I dropped in a small razor and a small piece of hacksaw blade As well as a handcuff key . I have thought about buying more belts like mine to modify and sell to make a few dollars . I could sell them under 90 dollars especially if I would sit down and learn to use the sewing machine . I would like to hear if ant one else has modified their gear such as bags belts plate carriers etc ?
The the reversable TDU belts are thick and sturdy just like the trainer and operator but still have the plastic buckle. I have one as well as a trainer both in 1.5" size.
Thanks for the reply, I was looking at purchasing a kydex holster and yours looked very nice! I've been looking at Raven and Bravo Concealment Kydex, both look promising.
You're welcome! I try and make vids with the info in them that I'd want to see if I was watching the vid myself. That's one of the things that motivated me to start making them. I wanted to fill what seemed like the void of low quality, low definition, low info vids. :-)
One of the instructors I know made it, but there are a ton of kydex holster options out there these days. I like them because they hug your body so well. Raven concealment is a popular one as is PhillyEDC (see his channel).
This is the MFG riggers belt and the engineers belt. Basically all the same just waaaay more expensive. That being said I own the trainer and operator 5.11 cause I just love 5.11
Thanks for this informative belt review snareman...been belt shopping and now I know what to get to tote my handguns,multitool (Leatherman Mut - great unit but it ain't the lightest...lol) and my Commando android phone....
When i went to the website they dont list any sizes just L,XL and so on nor a size chart, can you shed any light on this about how big these belts really are?
with ref to the belts slipping and or the floppy end sticking out, turn the floppy end back on its self and jam it into the buckle. it should stop the nylon slipping back
What size belt in relation to waist size do you recommend? For example the medium says 32-34. Would you get that if you have a 32" waist or would you go a size up?
@GoldenColts Yes. I wear the belt like this to work in the ER with my shirt tucked in. No gun. I usually wear 5.11 style pants and a scrub top or polo style shirt. Looks and works great. If I'm CCWing I have the belt with a holster and shirt untucked, so you don't see it. And yes - only the TDU belt us truly airport safe. I also own 3 Wilderness belts. Vids are forthcoming.
@rodeo600 Thanks. Holster was made by one of the instructors at TDI (Tactical Defense Institure - Dick Wheeler) and the mag pouches by SharkTac (who I recommend avoiding unless you see him at a show)
I started out with 5.11 belts as an IDF volunteer. The military issue sucked. I've since moved on to Wilderness belts. They are awesome, and the ones made specifically for CCW are awesome! They are pricey, but, worth every penny.
What's your advice on the sizing? I'm 6'2 185 and wear a 34-36''. I bought the large in the TDU belt, which is supposed to be for 36-38'', and I only have about 4'' of material when its cinched up. I noticed you have a lot left over. What size waist/belt do you use for these 511's? Thanks.
What is your waist size as compared to the belt size you got? Specifically the trainer belts. I am 38" or slightly less levi waist size and I have been using the 40"-42" 5.11 trainer. It will secure just past my 9:00 position, which seemed to be about where your's was. My only gripe about that is it can make it difficult to get my mag pouch on and off (triple layer). I fear going to a 36-38 will be too small. When I tighten all the way the velcro is just starting into the buckle.
@tul9033 I have a 32" waist and have the 32-34 belt. I prefer it to secure around the area of my right front pocket. Otherwise I have the problem like you with fitting a holster over it.
And what size belt did you get? I read a number of online reviews which discuss getting belts depending on wearing a holster inside/outside the waistband. Size does matter to fit a gun, if worn, and for the hook/loop to attach properly.
Sorry for the delay. I think I've since sold my 5.11 belts and now mostly use Wilderness Tactical belts so I'm not positive on the size. You would want to get it a little larger though if you're going to do IWB to account for the extra space. Might be easiest if you can find a store that has them to try them on to be sure . I just discovered that with some FirstSpear belts I bought.
If there is a secret to keeping the TDU belt tight, I sure would like to know!!!! It is always slipping from the point of where it is tightened. The one I bought is reversible but has the same plastic buckle (first demo) and it slips.
+ultraclassic01hd How do these TDU belts get loose on you folks? I have an ASP Tactical Logo belt and that never happened. I'm comparing them since they're similar in design.
The real comparison between these belts (and belt types) as well as how easy they are to put on and adjust. Also the rigidity. So ya, basically everything in there lol.
+mdssdp Check out my latest video on the Wilderness Tactical belts. Similar style and I've been wearing the one several times a week to work for probably 5 years and the velcro is still going strong. No problems at all. I suppose if you really wanted to you could have a tailor swap it out, but if you've work the belt down that much its probably easier just to buy a new one.
10/4 sir, will do. Yeah ive heard nothing but good stuff just seems as though most people who opt for a full frame gun amd spare mag fir edc seem to have the best luck with an instructor style belt. We shall see though! Will do a review if how its held up after a month or two of wear, worse comes to worst it can be my dressier edc belt lol.
Thoses are good belts. I have (2) 5.11 operator belts for about 1 year now. About 2 months ago I picked up a Black Hawk CQB Riggers belt. Check them out I think you would like them.
I tried their "leather" gun belt a number of years ago, basically a thin leather cover over a plastic core, it fell apart quickly. I do like their pants though.
Good comparison. I need to upgrade from Blackhawk!'s version of the tdu to the operator. I like the thicker belts. Where'd you get that holster? I've just taken an interest in making my own kydex holsters. That was a sharp setup.
Any opinions on the apex gunners belt from 511? Im waiting on mine to arrive now but am slighlty nervous i shouldve went with a trainer belt because i carry a full frame gun and spare mag.
I don't have any experience with it. I've looked at them, but haven't gotten around to buying one yet. I'm thinking it will probably be ok though. Let me know how you like it. 5.11 seems to have removed the reviews section from their website.
Another great and thorough review. Thank you! Our favorite quote: "Make sure you're not wearing crappy pants." Wise words...stick to 5.11!
I mean 5.11 kinda sucks 😕
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Saw a few videos for 511 belts, and your video was the only one with useable information. Thanks a bunch!
Glad it was helpful Tami! And this was 9 years ago, quite early in my belt reviewing career. :-). I just got 5 new belts in the mail today to review. What was different about my vid than the others?
Recently bought the Operator and man what a difference !!! I also went for years with a standard belt and didn't realize what I was missing.
yup, its crazy when you finally get a real belt and realize what you've actually been using for years that you thought was good. :-)
I am currently belt shopping, and appreciate such a super detailed video thanks a lot man
I just bought the 5.11 Operator belt. This video was exactly what I needed just to know for sure how to wear it! Thanks! Keep the vids coming!
You're welcome!
Me compré un cinturón táctico para ser fashionista y no sabía abrocharlo. Thank you sir, you just helped me to fit my outfit for school 🙏🏻
You're welcome!
I was thinking about how to put this belt on and you save my time, thanks :)
Got the 5.11 belt today and needless to say it is fantastic.
I have had my belt for 7 years and it looks new and I have it on all the time
Got the operator for concealed carry. Was using a regular old leather belt but it wasn’t sturdy enough. At 48 dollars at sportsman’s, the operator is perfect
Thank you for a well and informative video. I stumbled across your channel a few hours ago and seem to have hit the jackpot :-) I am a massage therapist and have started wearing the 5.11 pants which I find very comfortable throughout the day my next purchase of course is the operators belt. The operators belt looks like it's dirty enough to handle my Glock 30 and it's cross breed holster Super Tuck design .
Thanks! Glad you found it helpful! A good belt is definitely a must!
Just commenting here to thank you for the videos, specially this one and the one about the 5.11 stryke pant.. Helped me a lot in deciding between the pants.
Sorry for bad english.
Your english is fine. :-) glad the vids helped!
I love the tdu belt. It is my favorite jeans belt.
I looked this up because I needed a new belt. Had to do a double take because I recognize your channel from drumming videos, didn't know you did guns and gear videos too lol.
Welcome to the other side. 🙂 This is actually more where I started.
Great review. This is the best review, with the best details of these belts. I now can buy the trainer belt based on the details you revealed. Thanks so much.
FINALLY the info I was looking for! I could have used this 2.5hrs ago. THANK YOU!
I've been wearing a wilderness belt for a couple of years now. It's an awesome belt as well. pretty much the same as the 5.11. they do over a titanium buckle for another $40 or so.
Hi Snareman.
Great Vid by the way. Very good
Information. All my Equipment is
Tactical since I'm in The First
Response Team, United States
Civil Air Patrol. A couple of years
Ago I was flying to NY and was
Wearing my Civil Air Patrol Shirt
With the matching Blue 5.11 pants
And tactical Black Web Belt with
Government ID in Hand. TSA still
Made me take off the BELT and
SHOES to be PLACED in their
Plastic box to be run thru the
X-Ray. But it all depends on the
Airport you're going thru. Coming
Back from the Oklahoma City
Air Force Base I had No Problem
Going thru with TSA. I had my
Government Credentials in Hand
and TSA Recognised my ID from
The AIR FORCE and let me pass without a hitch. But AGAIN being they are Practically Next Door to
The AIR FORCE BASE the TSA
In OKLAHOMA CITY AIRPORT
are used to seeing Military
Personnel come thru their Domain.
THANKS AGAIN for YOUR VIDS.
Lt. Gilbert Osuna
Civil Air Patrol
United States
Air Force Auxiliary
Hello are you currently still in CAP if so hello fellow CAP member Cadet/A1C Steffens
Really nice review Sir. Thanks for taking the time.
Thanks!!
Just got the tdu green operated 1.75 fits perfectly on my Levi's 501s.
Can't wait to try my in the waist band!
Quick note! The buckle broke on my big thick leather belt while Christmas shopping. My gun fell into my pants I ran in the dressing room. Lucky the coat I was wearing had a good size inner pocket or I would have been in some trouble. Realized the importance of a good belt. Regular belt don't cut it and will fail in the worst place.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
Had to come check this video out to make sure I was wearing my 511 correctly
And what did you discover?
The belt is the operators model that's 1 3/4 inches, I am glad to say it fits all of my holsters and magazine carriers. Both my G30 (45auto) and G27 (40cal) are held tight and close to the body, very comfortable...
I have the trainer for almost 4 years and still going strong. Recently I bought the operator belt and the buckle fell apart in less than a month of normal EDC use. The center piece fell off, i took it back and they exchanged it for a new one and it the same thing, so i believe it had some faults. I wrote 5.11 and they offer to exchange it but i told the rep it makes no sense, so he offered me a discount on future purchases. Try twisting the center part at an angle and see your own falls out .
Very useful, thanks.
You're welcome! Glad you found it useful!
The operator belt works well as a self defence with the steel belt buckle and the velcro make it very efficient at moving form your waist to your hand (assuming you have the 5.11 tac pants) using the velcro to make a handle in a second or faster. Can also be used to restrain an attacker by making a look with the buckle after you have subdued your attacker. I don't carry a gun but am I a wheel chair and belt also make a good lasso that will tighten around what you ring it on by pulling the velcro end (turned into a surprisingly comfortable hand hold that seem as it were made to wrap around a wrist and threw your hand), plus it keeps a circle shape and will not fail to ring a neck if an attacker is within range. Also hear that you could break a bone with the buckle. (warning take a self defence class and lean how to use it before your in a situation that you need the skill for, seriously its not a toy you can hurt yourself)
Very clear and concise review. Subbed. Great Review.
I was looking at getting the Double Duty TDU by 5.11 with the plastic buckle ($17 cheaper) but your review just talked me into the Trainer belt, I literally just placed the order for the tundra colored one with the Stainless steel buckle. Thanks for a very helpful review.
Yea, I think the reinforced belts are a much better option if you are going to be carrying stuff on them
Indeed. They can have many uses!
THey were made by Dick Wheeler, one of the instructors at TDI (Tactical Defense Institute). He just kind of does it on the side.
pt2. It seems that the 5.11 design changes to the buckle are just made to avoid patent infringement (but don't quote me on that since I haven't looked into Wilderness Tactical's currently held patents). The wilderness belts are also made in the USA and proudly stamped showing that. I think anyone considering purchasing these belts would be better off and have less buyers remorse looking at the Wilderness products from the get go.
Juat got one today and came to look at the review after. Weird order i know 😅. Then i looked at the time stamp, 12 years ago ! Wow ! Great review though.
Thanks. Yea, it was a little bit ago. 🙂
Thanks. They are made by one of the instructors at TDI, although there are a ton of kydex holster options these days.
@GoldenP51 There is a size chart on the 5.11 website. 38" is a large (36-38)
I have done modifications to a lot of gear . I bought a knockoff belt for 8 dollars that says 5:11 on it . Although it is not 5:11 and it's stitching sucked for lack of a better word . As well the sizing was off . The 3 mod's I did to make this belt comparable to that of an 80 dollar belt were as follows . First I doubled the stitching all by hand as I have not yet learned to sew with machine as of yet . It only took 2 days of use before the velcro stitching started coming off so doubling the stitching of the velcro was the first thing . Secondly I could not tighten the belt to the right size so I added velcro to the belt . I used salvaged velcro I gather it here and there as I run across it . Taking it off things people throw by the roadside etc . You don't have to buy it nor do you have to always buy shock cord or nylon if you use creative thinking . Later I was bored and had been watching escape and evade videos and gear reviews and seen something that had not been done in the way I envisioned it . What I did next was to add 2 small velcro pockets to the inside of the belt . The pockets measure 3.75 inches wide by the width of the belt which is 1.50 inches . I fist sewed the little pockets out of a nylon material from an old lunch bag..Once I had the little rectangular pockets . I added velcro to fasten them shut . And finally I sewed them to the belt . First putting one in the rear and secondly adding one to my left side . These little pockets are great for hiding money from your wife ,she will go in your wallet but never in your belt! No more looking like an idiot when you go to buy something and don't have as much money as you assumed . As well as the inspired reason I dropped in a small razor and a small piece of hacksaw blade As well as a handcuff key . I have thought about buying more belts like mine to modify and sell to make a few dollars . I could sell them under 90 dollars especially if I would sit down and learn to use the sewing machine . I would like to hear if ant one else has modified their gear such as bags belts plate carriers etc ?
The the reversable TDU belts are thick and sturdy just like the trainer and operator but still have the plastic buckle. I have one as well as a trainer both in 1.5" size.
Wish that the TDU had the velcro keeper feature.
@GoldenP51 No problem. Its easy to overlook.
The operator belt really does work pretty well for rappelling- fast rappelled with mine at 40-50 feet numerous times and works great.
Thanks for the reply, I was looking at purchasing a kydex holster and yours looked very nice! I've been looking at Raven and Bravo Concealment Kydex, both look promising.
You're welcome! I try and make vids with the info in them that I'd want to see if I was watching the vid myself. That's one of the things that motivated me to start making them. I wanted to fill what seemed like the void of low quality, low definition, low info vids. :-)
@jamgabem No problem. :-) Glad you like the belt.
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All this time I've been doing this wrong? How do you keep it from slipping?
It just doesn't slip
One of the instructors I know made it, but there are a ton of kydex holster options out there these days. I like them because they hug your body so well. Raven concealment is a popular one as is PhillyEDC (see his channel).
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Ever have the D loop belts loose up on you after you set them tight? I had one similar to this and it always came loose constantly adjusting.
I don't think I've ever had a problem with them.
Great review man!!!
I'm 14 and I use TDU belts and they are WAY better than regular leather belts. Plus, they look really cool in black.
This is the MFG riggers belt and the engineers belt. Basically all the same just waaaay more expensive.
That being said I own the trainer and operator 5.11 cause I just love 5.11
4:40 is when heavy duty starts!
You the goat
Haha thank you! Saved me 4+ mins of my life
@miah022 They have a size chart on their website to show you what inch sizes correspond to what sizes.
Thanks for this informative belt review snareman...been belt shopping and now I know what to get to tote my handguns,multitool (Leatherman Mut - great unit but it ain't the lightest...lol) and my Commando android phone....
Thank you
When i went to the website they dont list any sizes just L,XL and so on nor a size chart, can you shed any light on this about how big these belts really are?
with ref to the belts slipping and or the floppy end sticking out, turn the floppy end back on its self and jam it into the buckle. it should stop the nylon slipping back
bigbillysbeard Thanks!
p.s. I thought your review was top notch and ive just ordered an operator belt, so keep them commin
bigbillysbeard Thanks! Glad you liked it!
What size belt in relation to waist size do you recommend? For example the medium says 32-34. Would you get that if you have a 32" waist or would you go a size up?
Thanks. Glad you found it useful!
How much can I get those for?
I hadn't seen the Bravo holsters, but they look pretty nice. Similar to Raven's which I do have experience with.
Would the first belt work for a inside the waste band holster?
Sorry for the late reply. No, it isn't a gun belt so it likely isn't stiff enough.
Sinn 857 UTC. Its the watch I get asked about most in my vids. I'm hoping to have a video up on it in the next few days.
an i love your content. I found my next belt. I will be getting the operator (fits my IWB holster and IWB mag pouch the best)
I appreciate the kind words! :-) Glad you like the vids!
@GoldenColts Yes. I wear the belt like this to work in the ER with my shirt tucked in. No gun. I usually wear 5.11 style pants and a scrub top or polo style shirt. Looks and works great. If I'm CCWing I have the belt with a holster and shirt untucked, so you don't see it. And yes - only the TDU belt us truly airport safe. I also own 3 Wilderness belts. Vids are forthcoming.
Hey I love you video very helpful and informative. But would someone please tell me what pants you are wearing at 4:20?
Does the 1.75 fit in Levi's 501 belt loops?
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Yes
@rodeo600 Thanks. Holster was made by one of the instructors at TDI (Tactical Defense Institure - Dick Wheeler) and the mag pouches by SharkTac (who I recommend avoiding unless you see him at a show)
I started out with 5.11 belts as an IDF volunteer. The military issue sucked. I've since moved on to Wilderness belts. They are awesome, and the ones made specifically for CCW are awesome! They are pricey, but, worth every penny.
Airport friendly, very good!
Although these days unless you have tsa precheck they still make you take your belt off.
I am struggling to pick the right size, how did you choose? thank you
Great review exactly what I was looking for A+
Thanks!!
@ColoradoNative100 Glad you found it useful!
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Thank you was not sure if i was wearing this belt right
Michael Anderson You're welcome! :-)
SnareMan would the trainer belt fit regular jeans because i want to edc my flashlight and mabey a multitool jus tired of keeping it all in my pockets
It just depends on the side of the belt loops on the jeans. You just need to measure them and compare.
What kind of gun/magazine holster are those, more specifically what brand? Thanks and nice video!
thank you so much for the review sir.. it was very helpful .. thanks again
Glad it was helpful!
What's your advice on the sizing? I'm 6'2 185 and wear a 34-36''. I bought the large in the TDU belt, which is supposed to be for 36-38'', and I only have about 4'' of material when its cinched up. I noticed you have a lot left over. What size waist/belt do you use for these 511's? Thanks.
me too, what size belts do you use?
What is your waist size as compared to the belt size you got? Specifically the trainer belts.
I am 38" or slightly less levi waist size and I have been using the 40"-42" 5.11 trainer. It will secure just past my 9:00 position, which seemed to be about where your's was. My only gripe about that is it can make it difficult to get my mag pouch on and off (triple layer). I fear going to a 36-38 will be too small. When I tighten all the way the velcro is just starting into the buckle.
@tul9033 I have a 32" waist and have the 32-34 belt. I prefer it to secure around the area of my right front pocket. Otherwise I have the problem like you with fitting a holster over it.
Great review thank you
If you don't mind me asking whats name and model watch you had on in the video? Thanks in advance
Thanks! Here's you go: ruclips.net/video/4BEu6lrT9LE/видео.html
Thanks man that was quick haha
No problem. I try and provide good 'customer service' when I can. :-)
It was made by one of the instructors at TDI (tactical defense institute)
And what size belt did you get? I read a number of online reviews which discuss getting belts depending on wearing a holster inside/outside the waistband. Size does matter to fit a gun, if worn, and for the hook/loop to attach properly.
Sorry for the delay. I think I've since sold my 5.11 belts and now mostly use Wilderness Tactical belts so I'm not positive on the size. You would want to get it a little larger though if you're going to do IWB to account for the extra space. Might be easiest if you can find a store that has them to try them on to be sure . I just discovered that with some FirstSpear belts I bought.
Yes, try before you buy. I went to a 5.11 Tactical store and tried one and got the correct size for me.
@snareman95 unfortunately with the new airport full body scanners you have to take it off.
If there is a secret to keeping the TDU belt tight, I sure would like to know!!!! It is always slipping from the point of where it is tightened. The one I bought is reversible but has the same plastic buckle (first demo) and it slips.
I've actually stopped wearing mine because I didn't like the floppy tip sticking out of my belt loop.
+ultraclassic01hd How do these TDU belts get loose on you folks? I have an ASP Tactical Logo belt and that never happened. I'm comparing them since they're similar in design.
what colour are those belts? Coyote or tdu green? thx
I wish the trainer belts were reversible!
Actually learned/relearned a thing or two.
Glad it helped!
Cool Sinn watch. Do (did) you like it?
The real comparison between these belts (and belt types) as well as how easy they are to put on and adjust. Also the rigidity. So ya, basically everything in there lol.
How long does the velcro last though, it would not last any where near the life of the belt. Is there a way to change it out?
+mdssdp Check out my latest video on the Wilderness Tactical belts. Similar style and I've been wearing the one several times a week to work for probably 5 years and the velcro is still going strong. No problems at all. I suppose if you really wanted to you could have a tailor swap it out, but if you've work the belt down that much its probably easier just to buy a new one.
10/4 sir, will do. Yeah ive heard nothing but good stuff just seems as though most people who opt for a full frame gun amd spare mag fir edc seem to have the best luck with an instructor style belt. We shall see though! Will do a review if how its held up after a month or two of wear, worse comes to worst it can be my dressier edc belt lol.
Thank you for this, I was wondering which one to order and this really helped, I’ve heard they run small, best to order size about your waist size ?
You're welcome. Honestly I haven't ordered one of them since I made this video in 2011 so I'm not sure how the length runs these days.
what kind of jeans would you recommend that is NOT crappy & would go with these?
Thoses are good belts. I have (2) 5.11 operator belts for about 1 year now. About 2 months ago I picked up a Black Hawk CQB Riggers belt. Check them out I think you would like them.
Great video, thanks for all infos. What brand are your holsters? My favorite color; Coyote, coyote tan or simply tan. Wow they look spectacular.
@InRagedTaurenWarrior Yea, easy enough I suppose. I'm just frustrated by it as I don't think I should have to do that.
This is aggravating I could not see how the belt actually went in his hand was in the way of the buccal most of the time
Sorry about that
Thank you for the review! I'll get both!!
I tried their "leather" gun belt a number of years ago, basically a thin leather cover over a plastic core, it fell apart quickly. I do like their pants though.
Interesting. I haven't tried any of their leather belts.
Good comparison. I need to upgrade from Blackhawk!'s version of the tdu to the operator. I like the thicker belts. Where'd you get that holster? I've just taken an interest in making my own kydex holsters. That was a sharp setup.
Great info, thank you
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
Any opinions on the apex gunners belt from 511? Im waiting on mine to arrive now but am slighlty nervous i shouldve went with a trainer belt because i carry a full frame gun and spare mag.
I don't have any experience with it. I've looked at them, but haven't gotten around to buying one yet. I'm thinking it will probably be ok though. Let me know how you like it. 5.11 seems to have removed the reviews section from their website.