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ok christian missionaries, we know its funny for you since your religion accepting LGBT now but how pathetic you can be to laugh at every comment@@leedavies3563
I used to be the biggest islmaphobe you could find, I used to believe all of Islam was the most backwards religion, stuck in the Stone Age, most terrorists BUT how wrong I was! I have started learning about Islam for a couple of weeks now and my Quran is coming today - I also have Muslim friends who are teaching me more and more each day and opening my eyes to the amazing religion of Islam ❤
That's great, you're very good to not follow what the west or even in the middle east, were trying to make about Islam, If you searched well, read the quran and know more things about Islam truly, you'll know how much Islam is great and gives justice to everyone ❤️ But you know, there are a few people who say they're Muslims, but the only thing they're related to Islam with, is Shahada, they have literally did the things that are forbidden and make them go to hell, and ofc the west (not only the west, The Islam haters) are still convincing the world that Islam is terr orist and something like that. May Allah guide you❤️
ISLAM is the right way.I feel so much love for Islam.I joined Islam last week after considering it for about 5 months Best decision I ever made ALLAHUAKBAR
@@Hannestv4607 First the prophet Jesus Pbuh cannot be god for god to assume the look of a man is not the characteristics of God for god to use the toilet which is a human need is also not godly like aswell as that there are mistakes in the bible
@@xtyma you do realize an argument is merely any form of response or set of ideas you're putting forward in a conversation.... right? Also he's literally in a debate with this dude, so uh duh, there's going to be arguments (not the complain get mad argument, the epistemological argument)
@@doomsday1273 your morality is subjective pal you can’t refute it so you just resort to calling it dumb no scientific studies that show you can be born gay purely from the genes alone
I'm a christian but interested in Islam. This guy debates very well, his composure and respectful manner of conversation is something I aspire to have. Respect to Muhammad.
Dude I’m the opposite , I’m muslim but studying other religions as they are interesting , just trying to be sophisticated and gain perspectives and knowledge and all of that
@@v-buckschan111 Nice man! The world would definitely be a better place if everyone understood and respected each others religions and beliefs. Good to hear I'm not the only one trying to do so :)
@@whydidiwritethat8218 lemme give you a better answer.. any human that believes there is only one God, and only one God worthy of worship; and that Jesus and all the other significant religious icons are prophets of that one God, have a chance of going to heaven under certain circumstances. I heard Dr Zakir naik say that even if a Christian believes there's only one God and that Jesus is the prophet of that one God. They can go to heaven as taqwah and tauheed fall under that condition. But if whilst believing these points and still sinning. You'll have to pay up for those sins but after all those punishments taken you might have a chance to go to heaven. Even Muslims who sin will have to get punished for their sins, no Muslim will permanently go to hell unless that Muslim commits adultery and has sex before marriage and sodomy. So there are some sins that land u into hell permanently but sinning is to stay away from for sure.
@@moholah3745 "And if they incline to peace, then you (also) incline to it, and put (your) trust in Allah. Indeed, He (is) All-Hearer, All-Knower" (8:61) Please don't share verses if you don't know the context behind it
This is not the prophetic way of dawah just to correct you none of the prophets were experts in science or new about scientific terminology they were simply messengers warning people of the torment and guiding to the straight path their method of dawah was Tawheed he is utilising science and technically he is not giving dawah
@@owenezio6127 the point i was making was that his compassion and his love for the Quran and sunnah shined through in this video, which is the prophetic tradition...but i understand what you mean and i would say it is appropriate to use something the opposition holds to be their worldview and use it against them, in this situation the science doesn't support the young man
So is this muslim guy saying that he doesn't believe people are actually homosexual? They are just "acting" like they like the same sex? Please help a lad understand
@@moholah3745 wrong translation😭. Plus english isn’t even the language the Qur’an got revealed in. We are supposed to respect everything and everyone else on the earth bc god almighty created them too
This man has given me relief that i didnt know i could have! Totally mind blowing... I was actually having doubts about humanitarian stance of islam on all this gay thing.... But now i feel extremely proud to be a muslim
Me too but to say the true I don't want to listen that young boy so I didn't listen. Can you explain it to me. I know what allah say is end but every time he forbid something there is a reason. So if the forbidding from men to wear gold. Can you pleas explain to me how.it.change it by you?
@@gulsumkarakuzu519 ahan... Actually all those big things... I studied them and realized..if God commands something its for our betterment....so now small things like men wearing gold doesnt really makes me question the reason(i believe now in Allah) so if i have to say something with my limited knowledge; i think when a man starts wanting to decorate himself, the same way women do, he might hop on to the journey to conflicted gender indentities etc... Small developments like these messed up our brains so yeah maybe its this or,.... I also have heard sonewhere it affects hormonal system in men..... So yeah man keep on researching you will find your answers
Some says because of gold decay on skin which is bad for men....women's skin are softer and they menstruate too. Maybe this is wrong I got no proof but that's what I heard. Overall I think Islam prevents men from going luxurious than needed as all silk clothings are also haraam for men. Simplicity is the key.@@gulsumkarakuzu519
I really do love this discussion. As a Muslim, I sometimes see videos of other Muslims shouting and getting mad at others during these videos. This guy is very calm and perfectly explains everything. He truly represents Islam. Well done.
@@levenasha104 evidence ? More like straight up lies? twin Actually twins do have higher chance of having the same sexuality. "Thirty-eight pairs of monozygotic twins (34 male pairs and 4 female pairs) were found to have a concordance rate of 65.8% for homosexual orientation. Twenty-three pairs of dizygotic twins were found to have a concordance rate of 30.4% for homosexual orientation." -A study by F L Whitam I can't give u links to the study (cuz yt policy regarding links in comments) Just search "gay twins studies" That will do the work.
Bull sh*t he's every argument is false I looked into the evidence he gave in this video and they are mostly false 1) twin study he claims in this video that both identical twin are not gay only one of them is gay meaning homosexuality not gentic this is totally false claim,one twin have way higher chance of being gay if other one is gay you can search gay twin study to find more information 2)change in homosexuall behavior he claimed in this video 200 homosexuall sexual Orientation was changed just by speaking to them. maybe the Muslim guy should mention the speaking was 5 years of speaking and even 5 years of speaking caused minimal change in their homosexuality, they didn't become straight you should article yourself 3)gay gene he's 3rd argument was if being gay is genetic, why is it so hard to find a gay gene Most traits are not controlled by a single gene. If you look at poodles, the color of their fur is controlled by a complex interaction of no fewer than nine genes, and some coat colors (such as piebald patterns) are also influenced by hormones in the womb. That's the way it is with most traits. You might have traits controlled by the interaction of dozens of genes--or more! If something as simple as the color of a dog's fur is regulated by nine different genes, it seems silly to think something as complicated as sexual behavior would be determined by just one gene--bing, this allele makes you straight; bong, that allele makes you gay. also sorry if I made any writing mistake I'm not the best at English and please don't be homophobic
what are you talking about, Christianity is marrying gay people in churches now. the next pope will probably be openly gay. come to the truth bro. May Allah guide us
@@kimmuller3924 The concept of god is just unreal to me, I believe that god is a way for people to cope with reality, to find a better life through faith and hope.
We try not to be hypocrites, meaning I wouldn't lie to you and try to claim something that I don't believe and start tell you to make you feel better and tell you opposite what I believe. We're people who are straightfoward, we try to be at least. That's what our religion teaches us. Alhamudulillah for this beautified Islam.
@@tomolo2619 if i said the Son of Tomolo does it mean he is not your son but yourself? that is why people are being confused by your logic, it doesnt make sense at all
Says the religion that throws gay people off of roofs. Great job converting the gays. I guess converting them to soil within a few years is a type of conversion, but not a very civilized one.
but the thing you think are bad might not be bad on other moral pov. and the thing u considered 'good morality' may be considered bad by other people. well.. i'm just saying
If every muslim spoke like this guy then everyone in the world would be Muslim! He speaks with respect, speaks clearly, tries to teach, yet doesn't come off as trying to be better or smarter, he is humble even though he knows more than most if not everyone who he has a conversation with, doesn't scream, uses evidence/examples outside the quran, and he doesn't come off as hateful to non muslims.
Also, most people who’ve been brainwashed by propaganda tries to debate in the same manner. The same talking points, bringing nothing new to the table. Muhammad Ali is clearly very experienced. He knows what they’re attempting to say before they even say it.
i like the way this guy talks to people, unlike many whom would have belittled or gone angry in that place.. we need more guys like this.. these men will make satan's job harded, while other ones make satans job easier. may allah bless him and make him reach to many many more people, and hope he never change to whats not better than he currently is
@@bigwalrus3901 yeah they choose to worship and follow their desires there’s a reason why God made man and woman instead of man and man 🤷♂️ god didn’t create you as a gay you choose to be
@@Mr.Lucess Ibrahim peace and blessings be upon him did not have three religions, only one. Islam. He worshiped the Creator and rejected all idol worshipping.
Allah SWT has forbidden us from Haram for a reason so that we can worship him in a pure way without having any poison or poisoning others with bad manners. There is indeed a wisdom behind it. May Allah forgive them if they repent and call back to Him. Ameen 🤲🏼
ALL MUSLIMS MUST READ this muslim man is lying to you. lets take a look at the already proven facts: 1. YES, if one iden. twin is gay then almost 100 percent of the time the other one is also gay 2. there is NO SPECIFIC gay gene, HOWEVER, there are vague combinations of genes for eg. Xq28 Gene (epigenetic material) that may cause gender dysphoria, bisexuality or homosexuality. 3. genes are not a very big factor that brings about homosexuality, it is one of the factors, however PRE NATAL BIOLOGICAL environment matters A LOT! lack of testosterone production in the womb can lead to an anatomically feminized brain. this causes any of the 4 things a- homosexuality b- gender non conforming behaviour c_ transsexuality or gender dysphoria, and d- bisexuality 4. DIFFERENCE IN BRAIN STRUCTURE- many biologists and neurologists have pointed out that gay men have identical brains- brains that have the exact same structure of the female brain. lesbians have similar brain structures to that of men as well. the brains of gay men and straight men are different in terms of : a - hypothalamus b - thalamus c - amygdala d - size of certain brain parts e - Cerebral hemispheres 5. Internal and external HORMONAL factors - many gay teenagers, after completing puberty and experiencing psycho physical changes, DEVELOP ATTRACTIONS TO OPPOSITE SEX. this is due to estrogen and testosterone. also many male homosexual detransitioners have developed attractions to FEMALES after starting testosterone blockers. I KNOW YOUR RELIGION WANTS US KILLED, BUT PLEASE DONT SPREAD MISINFORMATION AND LIES ABOUT AN ALREADY TARGETED MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY. dont support us, NO PROBLEM. BUT DONT SPREAD HATE AND LIES , ASSHOLES !
The way you instantly deal with anyone trying to surpass you in knowledge of what you preach as well as knowledge of what they randomly present in front of you is absolutely impressive allahumma barik, May Allah Azzawajal preserve you brother
@@Matman651 Have you looked at the miracles of the Qur'an or read it ? Have you looked at the contradictions in the Bible ? Have you looked at the conversion rates of Islam ? Fastest growing religion in the world and not by birth, ever wondered why ? I could go on and on, the signs are many for those who want to know the truth. May Allah guide us and you.
@@siraat-al-mustaqeem Birth rates are actually converging with the Christian birth rate and conversion accounts for a very small percentage of the growth. In fact, the proportion of muslims who are irreligious (don't pray often or don't follow diet restrictions and fasting,etc) in middle to higher income countries is rising at an accelerating rate. 20 years ago, muslims were far more religious in these countries and now that piety has declined substantially and will continue to do so. E.g: Turkey, Tunisia, Morocco, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Kosovo, Bosnia, Albania, Azerbaijan, etc
He's a hypocrite. He says you should interpret the Quran for yourself and that the Quran invites such thinking, then he turns around and argues with people who disagree with him because he is "in the right". That's a contradiction.
Please, let’s distinguish what is fact and what is fiction here. The holly Quran isn’t a something to be argued about and the man is explaining and reasoning what he believes to be the right path.
@@valhalla_1129 He told them to read the Quran and come to their own conclusion, it doesn't mean you can interpret it as anything you want, but how well you understood the points instead. The Quran is not a theory book where you can debate its contents, it's a book of guidance by the creator himself and should be followed as is its purpose. When he "argues", he clarifies instead according to what was written in the Quran. It isn't a contradiction, just your misunderstanding.
@@feelcollins4358 ……guy. When you take in information and try to form a stance on something, that’s what interpretation means. You can’t just objectively take in information because we all INTERPRET what that information is to make sense of it. It takes 5 seconds to google, “interpretation” is just explaining an idea through your personal account. Edit: Point being, we are not a hive mind. We all can’t interpret one thing universally the same. But we can agree that said idea is plausible to believe in.
A GCSE student arguing about studies and says "I don't have time to study etc" This young man was very much a time waster and just wanted Muahmmed to say that he hates homosexuals etc. Little did he know that Muhammed is masterful with his words and intellect mashallah
The amount of class and respect Muhammad has. Mashallah. I watch so many Dawah videos but your level of patience, knowledge and kindness has really inspired me to learn more about the religion. So direct, straight to the point yet so respectful. May you attain the highest level of Jannah brother. You make myself and other Muslims fall in love with the religion all over again.
This was a very decent and respectful debate. Its nice to see that disagreement regarding beliefs doesn't translate to hating the individual, which is scarce these days. A lot of the community nowadays take it personally but in actuality, we love all humans.
ALL MUSLIMS MUST READ this muslim man is lying to you. lets take a look at the already proven facts: 1. YES, if one iden. twin is gay then almost 100 percent of the time the other one is also gay 2. there is NO SPECIFIC gay gene, HOWEVER, there are vague combinations of genes for eg. Xq28 Gene (epigenetic material) that may cause gender dysphoria, bisexuality or homosexuality. 3. genes are not a very big factor that brings about homosexuality, it is one of the factors, however PRE NATAL BIOLOGICAL environment matters A LOT! lack of testosterone production in the womb can lead to an anatomically feminized brain. this causes any of the 4 things a- homosexuality b- gender non conforming behaviour c_ transsexuality or gender dysphoria, and d- bisexuality 4. DIFFERENCE IN BRAIN STRUCTURE- many biologists and neurologists have pointed out that gay men have identical brains- brains that have the exact same structure of the female brain. lesbians have similar brain structures to that of men as well. the brains of gay men and straight men are different in terms of : a - hypothalamus b - thalamus c - amygdala d - size of certain brain parts e - Cerebral hemispheres 5. Internal and external HORMONAL factors - many gay teenagers, after completing puberty and experiencing psycho physical changes, DEVELOP ATTRACTIONS TO OPPOSITE SEX. this is due to estrogen and testosterone. also many male homosexual detransitioners have developed attractions to FEMALES after starting testosterone blockers. I KNOW YOUR RELIGION WANTS US KILLED, BUT PLEASE DONT SPREAD MISINFORMATION AND LIES ABOUT AN ALREADY TARGETED MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY. dont support us, NO PROBLEM. BUT DONT SPREAD HATE AND LIES , ASSHOLES !
@@michaelhauser6440 and the humility to learn. He seems a little bit too solidified with his stance and dont ponder the possibility of his notions being wrong.
Even though they must've felt offended. That will be turned into a positive and may bring them towards Islam. This conversation was very well taken care of. Ma sha Allah. May Allah guide us all towards Islam with the teachings of Muhammad, Peace be Upon him.
@@jr5993 ALLAH has always been the creator, sustainer, and nourisher of the multiple world's. Even before the first sunrise. When there was nothing but ALLAH.The run of the mill universe/galaxies. You are wrong J R.
@@israelmorris1789 your response doesn't surprise me. You are just too deluded to admit that we have very little knowledge of the world which we inhabit. You can believe your little fantasy stories all you want but it has no empirical evidence to support it. Allah this Allah that. I don't care about imaginary people. Learn to think for yourself.
MashaaAllah the manner, the patience, the smooth spontaneous responds and the honesty of our brother Muhammed Ali here is beautiful. May those two students ponder of what our brother has said to them. May Allah reward The Muslim Lantern team and grant them Jannah. Ameen Ya Rabb.
This brother is so respectful towards the people he preaches it gives me a feeling of what true Islam is like. Not like some other daweehs who try to do intellectual janaza of the person they are arguing against. Keep up the good work . Mashallah
@@deathmarch8354 and? Just because i have a Sanskrit name doesn't mean i throw away my history and ancestry unlike people of the subcontinent. 🤭 And doesn't mean I'm not Muslim.
Thank you for using intellect and patience to give people a true understanding of what islam is about. Some people doing street dawah lose their patience and get frustrated. It becomes a heated argument instead of peacefully delivering information. May God increase your patience and understanding and guide you to speak the truth in a clear and concise way.
But the reason his beliefs seem brittle is because of lies. That Robert Spitzer study is not fact. The author retracted it as he knew it was flawed and it has been debunked. I wish the boys woulda called his bluff and searched it
Alhamdulillah for these Gems who propagate Islam the way it should , Alhamdulillah for their manners , their knowledge. This is the young generation of Islam that will enlighten the world enough to know what's right and what's wrong.
This is the level of compassion required when dealing with ppl whose whole identity is built upon their sexuality. It can't be easy for someone to accept the truth when it attacks their whole paradigm.
i'm part of the lgbt commmunity and even i had to laugh at the student. ali really put things into perspective and i respect him for that. what i learned from this video is that society really does have influence on the common beliefs, and i think that people should let others live their lives as they please, even if their beliefs conflict. you can't agree with everyone, and that will stay a fact. while i am not muslim, i can see ali's points and acknowledge them. on another note, i do think that these days society's perspective of the lgbt community has warped so terribly that some people come out as gay to be trendy, or even shame people for being "cishets". the idea of Pride is becoming so misunderstood that people are now proud to be gay, instead of being proud to be themselves
@@Noonas_admirer FAX, especially that last part. It's the pride of daring to express, not being gay directly. It's like saying you're proud of being straight, and there will definitely be some offended by that statement alone. But at least the kid was more self-aware than most, since he acknowledged and said that it was hard for him to accept it since he's homosexual himself.
The reason there is “gay pride” is to celebrate the overcoming of oppression. This is why there is not straight pride, society has never oppressed people for being straight.
@@FriarJoe66 There are many oppressed groups and many that had it tough. What about people with unseen handicaps like autism, adhd etc? The fact is that it is a lot more than a celebration, it's pushing your sexuality unto others, even children. It's propagation, not just celebration.
I’m muslim and have attraction to the same sex. I cannot deny that these homosexual feelings are true, but I came to the conclusion that it is also possible to control them, and even learn to have attraction to the opposite sex. But to achieve this you must first be really convinced that LGBT+ is not a good thing, apart from religiously. Thus I agree with you, it’s like a very hard test.
I feel like it's quite unfair for gay moslems. I been like this since I could remember and I can't bring myself to like women. I'd rather be straight and have any other problem than my sexuality. Why out of all things I should be the minority and the most detestable one at that. I'm grateful with what I have but even though I try to be religious, I'm feel like hell is waiting for me.
@@folkloreevermore2797but because of you fighting the urge, your rewards are greater. I feel like if you fight those urges, I would envy you. I’m straight and I did sins and I feel like I might end up in Jahannam. But I do repent and I try my hardest to change. I hate being prideful(the sin that got the devil kicked out) and being so full of anger because I’m hot-tempered. For now I’m doing my best to read and understand the Quran rather than just read without understanding the meaning. I just hope it’s not too late for me 😔
@@chaoticboy626 dude idk how it's like to be straight and I think people got their own problem/test going on in their life. I know that God is fair, but it's hard to think that way because I been so different compared to my colleagues. Knowing that Abu Thalib had been kind and protective towards Muhammad but he's still going to hell because he's not a moslem. Knowing that majority of hell residents are women because most of them are "ungrateful" "Discontent" Towards their husbands.. Idk anymore. If God is real I hope he'd guide me in the future. But now I just can't.
I agree that it is a hard test for those affected and it’s just that, a test. I’m Muslim but I kind of lost respect for Muhammad for this and it also shows how uncritical people are, it’s so easy to fool them. A quick search on google reveals that the first study by spitzer was bad by his own admission. Spitzer wrote an apology letter to the lgbt community and said that his study was poorly designed and isn’t reliable. Not only that but twin studies don’t even corroborate what he says. Twin studies show that the likelihood of 2 fraternal twins being gay are about 22 percent whereas for identical twins it’s about 52 percent. That is a higher than chance percentage and statistically significant. This suggests that there is a genetic component to sexuality but the environment also plays a role. This is a case of epigenetics. This isn’t to say that homosexuality is ok, it’s clearly haram and we shouldn’t engage in it but we need to have more compassion for others dealing with this. Especially fellow Muslims who deal with this but suffer in silence. Our community is so hateful and hostile towards homosexuals and we demonize them not realizing that the brother or sister next to you is crying inside listening to you say things like homosexuals are disgusting, are perverted, they must be killed etc. They are already dealing with a big test, we don’t need to make it worse. To some extent I think that if they didn’t have to keep such a thing a secret and could freely talk about it with others, they wouldn’t be as preoccupied by it and it would be easier for them to bear. Let’s tell them the truth without making it a taboo. As an example, people who fall into zina, we acknowledge that it’s a big sin and tell them to repent but afterwards, we move on from that and don’t label them or treat them badly. We still allow them to be a part of the community. I think this is the approach we should take with homosexuals too.
@@ft7037 spritzer was condemned because he went against their narrative. but doesn't mean the research the result of the research not exist or even been done.
@@Rationality4Life doesn't matter if there's rise of ex-muslim. because Allah said we will be replaced by those who love him more. so no matter what happens, Islam will prevail one way or other way around, like a natural flow.
@@Rationality4Life i told you no matter what happens, the Muslims you are talking about will be replaced by those who love Allah more. by the way, are you Indian!
@@Rationality4Life Its not surprising at all bro. Its been prophecied by prophet Muhammad peace and blessing be upon him that at the end of time, the amount of muslim will be huge but weak in faith.
Manshallah i watched this video and immediately subscribed 🙏🏽 love from Australia..keep up the dawah my brothers, only allah knows today's world needs islam more than they think☪️🤲🏽
ALL MUSLIMS MUST READ this muslim man is lying to you. lets take a look at the already proven facts: 1. YES, if one iden. twin is gay then almost 100 percent of the time the other one is also gay 2. there is NO SPECIFIC gay gene, HOWEVER, there are vague combinations of genes for eg. Xq28 Gene (epigenetic material) that may cause gender dysphoria, bisexuality or homosexuality. 3. genes are not a very big factor that brings about homosexuality, it is one of the factors, however PRE NATAL BIOLOGICAL environment matters A LOT! lack of testosterone production in the womb can lead to an anatomically feminized brain. this causes any of the 4 things a- homosexuality b- gender non conforming behaviour c_ transsexuality or gender dysphoria, and d- bisexuality 4. DIFFERENCE IN BRAIN STRUCTURE- many biologists and neurologists have pointed out that gay men have identical brains- brains that have the exact same structure of the female brain. lesbians have similar brain structures to that of men as well. the brains of gay men and straight men are different in terms of : a - hypothalamus b - thalamus c - amygdala d - size of certain brain parts e - Cerebral hemispheres 5. Internal and external HORMONAL factors - many gay teenagers, after completing puberty and experiencing psycho physical changes, DEVELOP ATTRACTIONS TO OPPOSITE SEX. this is due to estrogen and testosterone. also many male homosexual detransitioners have developed attractions to FEMALES after starting testosterone blockers. I KNOW YOUR RELIGION WANTS US KILLED, BUT PLEASE DONT SPREAD MISINFORMATION AND LIES ABOUT AN ALREADY TARGETED MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY. dont support us, NO PROBLEM. BUT DONT SPREAD HATE AND LIES , ASSHOLES !
Quran about Christians - "and you will find the nearest of them in affection to the believers (muslims) those who say, "We are Christians." That is because among them are priests and monks and because they are not arrogant." 💠5:82
The reason he is so angry, aggressive and dismissive is because his fitrah knows that being homosexual is wrong. He is trying to get brother Muhammad to accept his sin so he can feel good about himself. Alhamdulliah for the perfection of Islam truly a terrifying world without it.
@@Rationality4Life yea , homosexuality was there in past too , that's why it was prohibited in first place. Acceptance is different thing. Alot of things were accepted in ancient times. Including incest , Egyptian king and all were all about it. Now it's not accept, what's ur point i don't understand
And you think that you knows what he is feeling in this moment, that is absurd. This why of thinking is pathetic, that anyone who get emotionally involved confirms the other person. Can you proof me that there exist such a thing as your fitrah? And don't dare to claim general phenomenons, feelings etc for your own ideology, this would make it even more pathetic and seems like desprately looking to be the one with the absolute truth.
@mas-udal-hassan9277akhi what’s the reasoning behind your inquiry? Where in this statement does it leave room for a rebuke let alone a correlation to said statement by the OP. Again what gave way for you to ask that unless English isn’t your first language hence “LGBO” you understood some words , insinuating “ oh it’s the alphabet people” and he’s taking sides and ranting against our beliefs when in fact the OP is praising the civil discourse between strangers on opposite spectrums in society which you don’t see much of. I might be wrong my self in criticizing you for saying two words and a four letter abbreviation the fourth being a “T” and not a “ O” anyways your question came off hostile and triggering and off topic tryna get a bitter response to merit what ever outta pocket insult … Ahki what was the trigger for that question you butchered??? Lol
I realized that my reply is just wasted breath and keystrokes. Can’t imagine what he’s gonna ask me next “ Are you a Lego “ I wrote all that just for him to utter what I wrote. Subxaanallah that question was out of context and came out of a thrift store rocwear back pocket 👖. Either he a troll or living life blissful.
Ali , it would be difficult for someone not to have responded with a better answer for every question which was asked, may Allah reward you, I was very impressed
@@Badchocolatemold making clear points using christian fundamentalist pseudoscience, and then using research that the researcher themselves said was a flawed, unscientific research is manipulation, as well as straight up lying that muslims don't hate homosexuals when they are actively looked down upon, subject to countless hate crimes and even execution for just being gay in many muslim countries. the student clearly hasn't read up on what goes on in the middle east, so he is being manipulated by this absolute lying dickweed that not only are muslims so accepting and merciful, but that he is actively making a choice to be gay when literally anybody who isn't a religious fanatic or an extreme conservative would understand that your sexuality is innate even if it is not genetic, like personality or any sort of neurodivergence that you can't just iron out of a person. his argument is wholly unscientific, saying that homosexuality is wrong because his religion says so, while referencing "scientific" studies to back up his points. he also doubts the students identity as a homosexual, while demanding respect for his own beliefs, all at the same time as he tries to lie that he isn't hateful. erasure of marginalized groups and their struggles is, and will always be, hateful.
@@gamerforlife3946 the most conservative estimates i've seen for homosexuals in the usa are around 3 % at the very lowest. that's 9 million people right there, at the very least
First time watching your videos and I must say it's very different from Speaker's corner. I like the way this conversation was handled. Well done and may Allah reward you with his mercy and blessings. Ameen!❤️
Wow im Impressum how gentle and polite he was. He acted very wisely and calm in opposite to the boys who almost attacked him bc they got emotional and couldn’t believe the truth. They did not show any evidence. They did not support their argument bc they couldn’t think logically. Brother Ali showed them many evidences and he explained everything very simple and understandable. ❤❤❤❤❤
14:16 "Homosexual tendencies or homosexual attraction does not take him out of the fold of Islam. You can be a Muslim and you have these type of feelings, you are accountable for your actions whether you will act upon those feelings or not. So if someone has those feelings then he does not act upon them, in Islam he gets rewarded; if it's not that he gets punished or looked down. The point in fact he gets reward because he suppressed something that the Creator told him not to do even though he's inclining towards that. So we there's a separation between me being evil towards someone or hating someone. That's all I was making in the beginning: separation between the act and the god's commands."
that's the thing with people.... they don't want Islam...or any religion to "tell" them what to do, believe or accept, YET...they want everyone to listen and accept what they TELL them.
As if countries with a Muslim majority are any more tolerant, most of them homosexuality isn't even legal while in no Western state Islam is forbidden to practice.
I don't get why some people in the comments are making it sound as if the guy is a bad person for the way he was talking, like he has the full right to ask and debate and just speak whatever he has in his mind even if he wasn't completely educated on the topic, this is the whole point of such a conversation, to think and to learn, be nice please
Yeah, one of the best ways to understand the people you disagree with is just speak to them He was brave, comfortable and respectful despite obviously disagreeing with Ali, and that should be respected
He was very well educated for his age. The Muslim dude is not very well educated. Read about Dr. Spitzer and this "study" he uses to defend his argument. Not really nice to try to brainwash someone with fake science...
Even if a straight man get horny and want to commit zina, and he fears Allah and suppress his feelings, he'll get rewarded for it in the Hereafter. Same with gay Muslim men. Allah tested him with the feeling of attraction to men, and if he obeys Allah not to commit homosexual act or zina that is his good deeds and he'll be rewarded in the Hereafter as well. Any gay Muslim men who continously obeys Allah is actually doing greater jihad against his own nafs and get continuously being recorded as ibadah. Never look down upon anyone; straight or gay. Even a prostitute who gave water to a thirsty dog was forgiven by Allah (Sahih Al- Bukhari). This life is a test, and Allah never burden anyone beyond what he or she can bear.
This is the same with saying "It's okay not to be okay", where in fact that's just a statement to make that particular individual feel it's "okay" to be doing whatever you are doing. However, it doesn't. Wrong means wrong. Right means right. There's no in between. That's where Islam explains it all for those who thinks.
@@DePeaceHunter : yeah you are right and I totally agree to that to a certain extent base on many context. in general, what is wrong is wrong is wrong. it's like also saying female means female.😉
@@DePeaceHunter Who lies in the context? The brother has already said that god generally gives us an innate ability to recognise right from wrong, but unfortunately, due to the society it gets clouded. Killing is generally bad, but if you have no choice and you have to save others or yourself if you're being wrongfully targeted.
Masha Allah brother Mohammed Ali. May Allah grant you the strength and ability to continue in sharing your knowledge with both believers and non believers.
It's a mental problem when these people not only engage in these acts, but they define themselves by this behaviour. I define myself as Muslim, not as heterosexual.
What acts? Holding hands, kissing, hugging, spending time together, talking, playing, helping each other, etc. What acts? Sex is only 1% of the time of a couple but you're obsessed with it. When you're so obsessed with sex, why do you judge gays for wanting to be together? It's normal human thing to do. There is nothing wrong that you can mention about 2 men being together
ALL MUSLIMS MUST READ this muslim man is lying to you. lets take a look at the already proven facts: 1. YES, if one iden. twin is gay then almost 100 percent of the time the other one is also gay 2. there is NO SPECIFIC gay gene, HOWEVER, there are vague combinations of genes for eg. Xq28 Gene (epigenetic material) that may cause gender dysphoria, bisexuality or homosexuality. 3. genes are not a very big factor that brings about homosexuality, it is one of the factors, however PRE NATAL BIOLOGICAL environment matters A LOT! lack of testosterone production in the womb can lead to an anatomically feminized brain. this causes any of the 4 things a- homosexuality b- gender non conforming behaviour c_ transsexuality or gender dysphoria, and d- bisexuality 4. DIFFERENCE IN BRAIN STRUCTURE- many biologists and neurologists have pointed out that gay men have identical brains- brains that have the exact same structure of the female brain. lesbians have similar brain structures to that of men as well. the brains of gay men and straight men are different in terms of : a - hypothalamus b - thalamus c - amygdala d - size of certain brain parts e - Cerebral hemispheres 5. Internal and external HORMONAL factors - many gay teenagers, after completing puberty and experiencing psycho physical changes, DEVELOP ATTRACTIONS TO OPPOSITE SEX. this is due to estrogen and testosterone. also many male homosexual detransitioners have developed attractions to FEMALES after starting testosterone blockers. I KNOW YOUR RELIGION WANTS US KILLED, BUT PLEASE DONT SPREAD MISINFORMATION AND LIES ABOUT AN ALREADY TARGETED MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY. dont support us, NO PROBLEM. BUT DONT SPREAD HATE AND LIES , ASSHOLES !
i wanna ask which claims you thought were crazy. not in a disrespectful way, only curiously and in the name of friendly debate is all. you dont have to respond if you dont want to debate, but im curious where we saw differently
@@fishiefish2249Litterly every point he made in the video he is young so you have to put this down to ignorance: 1) claiming that the forbidden things is life is imhertily bad as is the creator that decided it, when he hasn't studied morality specifically presentism vs objective. (I.e. how do you know something is good and bad and where does that internal compass come from) 2) saying that homosexually is innate (with zero evidance just testimony). Academia says the exact opposite. 3) claiming that humans can't control the action and saying it's bad to be called a sin in society, when medically speaking nothing in Islam is bad for your health as it agrees with modern science (despite being writen 1400 years ago e.g. just google nhs homosexually you will find at least 13 health conditions associated with it thus it cant be objective). 4) Again claiming that homosexually isn't eviroment based (when acedmically it is and not gene expressions based) 5) claiming hormones/testosterone causes attraction - this is not true. It's an effect to a response of an metaphysical construct which you can't measure. (I.e. his claim is response comes before cause.) 6) inccorectlt defining a straw man falicy, identical twins, conversation therapy, etc...saying that his lack of knowledge is because of being young - age does not determine knowledge. 7) confusing the thought Vs the action: In Islam a sin is only a sin when it's an action but in a liberalised society (because of limitations of language) that action has become an identity. I.e. his assumption is it is who he his (when actually acedmically spekaing by the time he is 25 he will most likely be bi than anything else according to science). Aka you don't call someone a smoker because he things about smoking it's only when he does that action. Then calling that system that says "don't do this thing which is bad for your health" hateful. It should be classed as protective no? Islam protects the society from the individuals and the individuals from themselves.
Mashallah my brother is sooo knowledgeable and intellectual. He is such a great role model for our younger generation. May Allah give him the best of both worlds. Ameen
ALL MUSLIMS MUST READ this muslim man is lying to you. lets take a look at the already proven facts: 1. YES, if one iden. twin is gay then almost 100 percent of the time the other one is also gay 2. there is NO SPECIFIC gay gene, HOWEVER, there are vague combinations of genes for eg. Xq28 Gene (epigenetic material) that may cause gender dysphoria, bisexuality or homosexuality. 3. genes are not a very big factor that brings about homosexuality, it is one of the factors, however PRE NATAL BIOLOGICAL environment matters A LOT! lack of testosterone production in the womb can lead to an anatomically feminized brain. this causes any of the 4 things a- homosexuality b- gender non conforming behaviour c_ transsexuality or gender dysphoria, and d- bisexuality 4. DIFFERENCE IN BRAIN STRUCTURE- many biologists and neurologists have pointed out that gay men have identical brains- brains that have the exact same structure of the female brain. lesbians have similar brain structures to that of men as well. the brains of gay men and straight men are different in terms of : a - hypothalamus b - thalamus c - amygdala d - size of certain brain parts e - Cerebral hemispheres 5. Internal and external HORMONAL factors - many gay teenagers, after completing puberty and experiencing psycho physical changes, DEVELOP ATTRACTIONS TO OPPOSITE SEX. this is due to estrogen and testosterone. also many male homosexual detransitioners have developed attractions to FEMALES after starting testosterone blockers. I KNOW YOUR RELIGION WANTS US KILLED, BUT PLEASE DONT SPREAD MISINFORMATION AND LIES ABOUT AN ALREADY TARGETED MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY. dont support us, NO PROBLEM. BUT DONT SPREAD HATE AND LIES , ASSHOLES !
yeah,before lgbtq blew up,i have friends tht we can see him as "soft boy" tht incline do what women do,and out of curiousity i asked him why he didnt atleast trying to acts like a man or sit like a man,and he tells his story of how his parents used to grooming him as girl,and many cases says tht they were develop those type of feelings at the young age mainly the environment and stuff,same goes to no one born introverts,every introverts have similar story tht make them become an introvert.
@@Rationality4Life you saying tht,but there is also study indicates there is no such things as homosexuality gene,my friend tht are gay always have some kind of childhood trauma,lesbian friend tht i know been bullying by group of men and influence her desire.There is 1 gay guy talked about his journey also have sexual trauma inflicted by his uncle when he just a kid,fall in love with another homo guy and have anal sex,get tricked by him and he get hiv,iam genuine wanted to know and indeed its not something you born at,but its byproduct of your childhood emvironment,there is those tht used to have gf but turn to homosexual. You wanted to believed in it or justify it as such but the truth homosexuality are byproduct of environment and situations.I.mean.comparing animals to human?...thts so low dont you think so? There is animals tht can changed their sex,from male to female and etc.What i understand is LGBTQ are all about desire. So what if i have feelings to my own sister? Is tht from my homo gene or what? What makes its any different then homosexual acts im also includes pedophile acts.What differs men doing fornication to another men any differents then pedophile or incest? Because many bases "love out of love" but you guys endup fvcking,i love my male sister but i dont french kiss her... So whats ur answer will be my friend?
@@popcornmovietrailer960 I was raised Christian and I'm bisexual. I have a boyfriend. Has nothing to do with my morals, I don't like the LGBT community much either. The problem is social media and how it puts echoing viewpoints together to enhance them. The few believe to be the voice of the many. I disagree with Ali too about this, he tends to contradict himself, but I don't hate the guy for it either. He's free to have his own viewpoints and nobody can stop him, that's how the world works. The real world, at least. The internet is much different.
When you learn psychology (actually learning through college) the most reasonable answer of why people being gay/lesbian is environment/social influence because it is something that a person learned and make a habit for
You saying that it's "the most reasonable answer" is meaningless. What you are saying is the most reasonable to YOU. I imagine you were given a multiple choice to discuss and you answered incorrectly. No professional psychologist worth their salt would agree with that incorrect assertion. I suggest that you are not working hard enough in your college level psychology class at all.
That's the first time I see you And I'm already a fan for that whole personality you demonstrated here Patient, calm, respectful, and you know what are you talking about. I really wish now to have your temper I'm a man who tends to be loud when my patient is done, not so easily outraged but if I hear stupidity (or what I consider stupidity) or someone irritates me, I quickly switch to angry mode. Communication throughout the screen makes it easier for me since even if I'm screaming ppl don't really get that I'm speaking with anger since I'm generally spontaneous, so it sounds my normal tone to them, but in real life I have to pressure it more to stay as cool as possible.
Proud of you as a Muslim MashAllah 👏👏👏👏👏 They literally be following trends blindly and there's the man who MashAllah has studied so well and talks rationally with open critiques RESPECT!!!! 👏🤲✨🙌
now tell me how being gay is a trend... if you only like women whatever thing you do you will never like a man. you will never have feelings for a man. you will never feel sexually and romantically feel attracted to a man. and nobody is forcing you to be gay lmao. queerbaiting is another stuff, where someone straight pretends to be gay, but you'll never see someone straight with another same sex person. being gay is not a trend, it's not like you wake up and decide to change who you are sexually attracted to. make it make sense.
Okay sorry if hurt I should rephrase it But just respectfully an opinion that don't you think we should evaluate the feelings before actually acting upon them and just try to like know why you feeling it and it should go in all cases even with heteros Rest is that I want the ppl of the other side too to come with some information on all stuff they are depending their life on not just emotionally active I respect all of you guys don't ever think ill ever bash or mark you bad as whole, but don't base your whole personality on mere orientation humans have a lot more🤝
MashaAllah the delivery, understanding and the knowledge of the subject discussed is impressive. Br Ali has done extensive research...I'm impressed. Alhamdolillah.
I used to be annoyed to find this brother's videos popping up & seeing the thumbnails, idky. I finally clicked and listened. Then I kept listening... Beautifully presents each argument, skillfully tackles each point, calmly composed with poignant demeanour - respectable. Wonder from whom & where he studied...
Mash'Allah bro you are amazing and have the most patience. Why do I feel that this kid who came to argue about being gay is actually feeling in his heart he is wrong and trying to justify himself by arguing with brother Ali?
Subhanallah tabarakallahu. Barakallahufiikum brother Ali. You really shows both the knowledge and ethics at he same time. This should be the way to spread the truth of Islam. May Allahazza wajalla keep you healthy and extend your knowledge Insya Allah to spread the real truth. Aamiin.
Beautiful Dawah. When compared to a certain US guy who is downright rude and unkind in his Dawah, I find Muhammad’s approach so much more humane. Instead of attacking people, being offensive and literally driving them away from Islam due to sheer unkindness and bad attitude, Muhammad instead chooses respect while staying firm on the religion. Beautiful.
Mashaallah. Such beautiful Akhlaque and amazing way of giving Da'wah. May Allah preserve you, bless you immensely and May Allah help us all give Da'wah with such wisdom and beautiful manners.
MaashaAllah brother, you are brilliant. May Allah protect you and increase you in knowledge and patience to deal with the lost/ignorant people that fill our societies
There could be a meme in the thumbnail but i can neither confirm or deny, If you know you know ^^
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I like this guy, no sugar coating when he's explaining something from Islam, just straight truth.
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THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE ....
FROM THE DECEPTIONS OF SATAN
its horrible nonethless
Oh poor baby
ok christian missionaries, we know its funny for you since your religion accepting LGBT now but how pathetic you can be to laugh at every comment@@leedavies3563
I used to be the biggest islmaphobe you could find, I used to believe all of Islam was the most backwards religion, stuck in the Stone Age, most terrorists BUT how wrong I was! I have started learning about Islam for a couple of weeks now and my Quran is coming today - I also have Muslim friends who are teaching me more and more each day and opening my eyes to the amazing religion of Islam ❤
That's great to hear, may Allah guide you to taking your shahadah soon and reward you for your kindness and truthfulness.
Lucky you're not gay ❤
That's great, you're very good to not follow what the west or even in the middle east, were trying to make about Islam, If you searched well, read the quran and know more things about Islam truly, you'll know how much Islam is great and gives justice to everyone ❤️
But you know, there are a few people who say they're Muslims, but the only thing they're related to Islam with, is Shahada, they have literally did the things that are forbidden and make them go to hell, and ofc the west (not only the west, The Islam haters) are still convincing the world that Islam is terr orist and something like that.
May Allah guide you❤️
Bro I’m telling you, these terrorist taint my belief in blood and it pisses me off the most. They ruin it for everyone.
Don't forget many of us have fallen victims of the anti Muslim American propaganda to justify their wars especially after 911.
I’m currently considering Islam and this dude is speaking exactly how I feel about this debate already
Make your shahada! Don't be too late because you never know when you take your last breath. May Allah SWT guide us all :)
May Allah guide you to Islam. Amin
Make the shahadah and you will not regret ,dont delay it you never know when you die
ISLAM is the right way.I feel so much love for Islam.I joined Islam last week after considering it for about 5 months Best decision I ever made ALLAHUAKBAR
@@BrendaTaylor-kx5yj ❤❤❤❤❤❤ بارك الله فيك
"Can u recognize good without evil?" What a powerful question
@@Hannestv4607 lmao.. nt dude. try harder next time.
@@Hannestv4607 no one ask.
@@Isyida7 emotional damage
I wonder seeing him speaking so bbeautifully, Compassionately. May give him more ccourage to do Dawah.
@@Hannestv4607 First the prophet Jesus Pbuh cannot be god for god to assume the look of a man is not the characteristics of God for god to use the toilet which is a human need is also not godly like aswell as that there are mistakes in the bible
Im not muslim but this teacher shows a lot of intellect, patience and love.
Too bad he doesn't have very good arguments lmao
@@doomsday1273 he doesn’t need to argue whatever he says is enough to answer them now chill
@@xtyma you do realize an argument is merely any form of response or set of ideas you're putting forward in a conversation.... right? Also he's literally in a debate with this dude, so uh duh, there's going to be arguments (not the complain get mad argument, the epistemological argument)
@@doomsday1273 your morality is subjective pal you can’t refute it so you just resort to calling it dumb no scientific studies that show you can be born gay purely from the genes alone
@@doomsday1273 he gives scientific book and research of he's clames so he did give very good arguments, it tells that you did not watch or hear him
I'm a christian but interested in Islam. This guy debates very well, his composure and respectful manner of conversation is something I aspire to have. Respect to Muhammad.
May Allah make it easy for you,
Tomorrow is not promised so the earlier you accept Islam the better it will be,
Dude I’m the opposite , I’m muslim but studying other religions as they are interesting , just trying to be sophisticated and gain perspectives and knowledge and all of that
@@v-buckschan111 Nice man! The world would definitely be a better place if everyone understood and respected each others religions and beliefs. Good to hear I'm not the only one trying to do so :)
@@whydidiwritethat8218 yea in one who is a region diffrent than Islam will burn in hell fire
@@whydidiwritethat8218 lemme give you a better answer.. any human that believes there is only one God, and only one God worthy of worship; and that Jesus and all the other significant religious icons are prophets of that one God, have a chance of going to heaven under certain circumstances. I heard Dr Zakir naik say that even if a Christian believes there's only one God and that Jesus is the prophet of that one God. They can go to heaven as taqwah and tauheed fall under that condition. But if whilst believing these points and still sinning. You'll have to pay up for those sins but after all those punishments taken you might have a chance to go to heaven. Even Muslims who sin will have to get punished for their sins, no Muslim will permanently go to hell unless that Muslim commits adultery and has sex before marriage and sodomy. So there are some sins that land u into hell permanently but sinning is to stay away from for sure.
I just love this style of dawah, truly showing the prophetic tradition, may Allah accept it from the brother
@@moholah3745
"And if they incline to peace, then you (also) incline to it, and put (your) trust in Allah. Indeed, He (is) All-Hearer, All-Knower" (8:61)
Please don't share verses if you don't know the context behind it
@@moholah3745 In this Verse Allah is talking about the Quraysh🤦♂️ Go get some information before writing random verses
This is not the prophetic way of dawah just to correct you none of the prophets were experts in science or new about scientific terminology they were simply messengers warning people of the torment and guiding to the straight path their method of dawah was Tawheed he is utilising science and technically he is not giving dawah
@@owenezio6127 the point i was making was that his compassion and his love for the Quran and sunnah shined through in this video, which is the prophetic tradition...but i understand what you mean and i would say it is appropriate to use something the opposition holds to be their worldview and use it against them, in this situation the science doesn't support the young man
@@moholah3745 this is about quraish.
I was shocked how much Muhammed Ali knew about certain topics, he is very wise and intelligent Mashallah!
So is this muslim guy saying that he doesn't believe people are actually homosexual?
They are just "acting" like they like the same sex?
Please help a lad understand
@@user-lq9mw1sb8dno, influenced not innate.
@@user-lq9mw1sb8d People are not innate born homosexual, it can be society why they feel that way
@@suzan_sheikh Agreed. Can it be anything else?
impressive composure, intellect and self control from brother Ali while being very well respectful
That’s how it’s should be it’s not an exploit you don’t yell at people for doing wrong you teach them as simple as that
@@moholah3745 Alhamdulillah
Top G!
self-control against what?
Y’all are crazy.
They tried so hard to make Muhammad Ali say he hates gays but they kept failing 😂
Also he insisted homosexual is natural (because of gene) even so many scientists research homosexual is not because of gene
@@Asiyah2000 you probably don't live in a western country
They have army ready for signal
@@Asiyah2000 well hate the act, but not the people
@@AliMohammed-it4yt Its the same as saying: don't hate the serial killer, just hate the act
Muhammad Ali is pure class, such a humble and knowledgeable brother.
Alhamdulillah.
@@moholah3745 wrong translation😭. Plus english isn’t even the language the Qur’an got revealed in. We are supposed to respect everything and everyone else on the earth bc god almighty created them too
Yes, indeed mashallah.
There is nothing wrong in being gay
Greatest boxer of all time.
This man has given me relief that i didnt know i could have! Totally mind blowing... I was actually having doubts about humanitarian stance of islam on all this gay thing.... But now i feel extremely proud to be a muslim
Me too but to say the true I don't want to listen that young boy so I didn't listen. Can you explain it to me. I know what allah say is end but every time he forbid something there is a reason. So if the forbidding from men to wear gold.
Can you pleas explain to me how.it.change it by you?
@@gulsumkarakuzu519 ahan... Actually all those big things... I studied them and realized..if God commands something its for our betterment....so now small things like men wearing gold doesnt really makes me question the reason(i believe now in Allah) so if i have to say something with my limited knowledge; i think when a man starts wanting to decorate himself, the same way women do, he might hop on to the journey to conflicted gender indentities etc... Small developments like these messed up our brains so yeah maybe its this or,.... I also have heard sonewhere it affects hormonal system in men..... So yeah man keep on researching you will find your answers
@@tahirmustafa2114 hmm thank you
Some says because of gold decay on skin which is bad for men....women's skin are softer and they menstruate too. Maybe this is wrong I got no proof but that's what I heard.
Overall I think Islam prevents men from going luxurious than needed as all silk clothings are also haraam for men. Simplicity is the key.@@gulsumkarakuzu519
It lowers testosterone levels in men @@tahirmustafa2114
I really do love this discussion. As a Muslim, I sometimes see videos of other Muslims shouting and getting mad at others during these videos. This guy is very calm and perfectly explains everything. He truly represents Islam. Well done.
This video information are false
@@purple10101How so?
@@purple10101all these evidence and you still don't believe, don't know what to tell you honestly
@@levenasha104 evidence ? More like straight up lies?
twin Actually twins do have higher chance of having the same sexuality.
"Thirty-eight pairs of monozygotic twins (34 male pairs and 4 female pairs) were found to have a concordance rate of 65.8% for homosexual orientation. Twenty-three pairs of dizygotic twins were found to have a concordance rate of 30.4% for homosexual orientation."
-A study by F L Whitam
I can't give u links to the study (cuz yt policy regarding links in comments)
Just search "gay twins studies"
That will do the work.
@@levenasha104 hes got an anime pfp ignore him
Although I am a Christian, I completely understand what this Muslim is saying and I agree with him.
Of course, because both are Abrahamic Faiths
Bull sh*t he's every argument is false
I looked into the evidence he gave in this video and they are mostly false
1) twin study
he claims in this video that both identical twin are not gay only one of them is gay
meaning homosexuality not gentic
this is totally false claim,one twin have way higher chance of being gay if other one is gay
you can search gay twin study to find more information
2)change in homosexuall behavior
he claimed in this video 200 homosexuall
sexual Orientation was changed just by speaking to them.
maybe the Muslim guy should mention the speaking was 5 years of speaking and even 5 years of speaking caused minimal change in their homosexuality, they didn't become straight
you should article yourself
3)gay gene
he's 3rd argument was if being gay is genetic, why is it so hard to find a gay gene
Most traits are not controlled by a single gene. If you look at poodles, the color of their fur is controlled by a complex interaction of no fewer than nine genes, and some coat colors (such as piebald patterns) are also influenced by hormones in the womb.
That's the way it is with most traits. You might have traits controlled by the interaction of dozens of genes--or more! If something as simple as the color of a dog's fur is regulated by nine different genes, it seems silly to think something as complicated as sexual behavior would be determined by just one gene--bing, this allele makes you straight; bong, that allele makes you gay.
also sorry if I made any writing mistake
I'm not the best at English and please don't be homophobic
what are you talking about, Christianity is marrying gay people in churches now. the next pope will probably be openly gay. come to the truth bro. May Allah guide us
As a Christian u are told in the bible to hate homosexuals
@@EB-gt1pq مَا كَانَ إِبْرَاهِيمُ يَهُودِيًّا وَلَا نَصْرَانِيًّا وَلَٰكِن كَانَ حَنِيفًا مُّسْلِمًا وَمَا كَانَ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ ( 67) سورة الأنعام
Not religious at all but man, this guy is smart on so many levels
Why not?
@@kimmuller3924 The concept of god is just unreal to me, I believe that god is a way for people to cope with reality, to find a better life through faith and hope.
@@wr0ng569 yes because everything came from absolutely nothing 👍
Read about the concept of god in islam first.
Just let atheist people be atheist
We try not to be hypocrites, meaning I wouldn't lie to you and try to claim something that I don't believe and start tell you to make you feel better and tell you opposite what I believe. We're people who are straightfoward, we try to be at least. That's what our religion teaches us. Alhamudulillah for this beautified Islam.
MashaAllah the brother is brilliant. No shouting, no insulting, no mocking others, just pure dawah.
Ameen
@@tomolo2619 if i said the Son of Tomolo does it mean he is not your son but yourself? that is why people are being confused by your logic, it doesnt make sense at all
@@tomolo2619then why say son of god? Just say he’s god
他甚至没有宣教 只是表明了自己的立场
@@tomolo2619 Whats the definition of son?
In Islam we don't hate anyone, we hate the bad that they may do.
Says the religion that throws gay people off of roofs. Great job converting the gays.
I guess converting them to soil within a few years is a type of conversion, but not a very civilized one.
Amen
but the thing you think are bad might not be bad on other moral pov. and the thing u considered 'good morality' may be considered bad by other people. well.. i'm just saying
Not really i hate rapists
I hate pedophiles
brother Muhammad Ali giving the knock out punches intellectually
Let’s not forget it’s not about winning an argument it’s about inviting people to Islam it should be done very kind and softly
@@shahrazadrana9446 hes doing that so its fine.
1 ,2 bam ok ok let's change topic...
Yeah right
@@shahrazadrana9446 Exactly 👍 May Allah guide us all
If every muslim spoke like this guy then everyone in the world would be Muslim! He speaks with respect, speaks clearly, tries to teach, yet doesn't come off as trying to be better or smarter, he is humble even though he knows more than most if not everyone who he has a conversation with, doesn't scream, uses evidence/examples outside the quran, and he doesn't come off as hateful to non muslims.
Respect to this Muslim brother from this Christian for speaking so well and keeping such great composure.
i dont even know how muhammed ali can deliver his message so calmly. i wouldve went nuts arguing with the student. well done!
Because he's a true Muslim doing dawah correctly
Also, most people who’ve been brainwashed by propaganda tries to debate in the same manner. The same talking points, bringing nothing new to the table. Muhammad Ali is clearly very experienced. He knows what they’re attempting to say before they even say it.
I think people who have patience in dawah are mostly learned muslim with years of experience.
Being a angry person IS NOT GOOD
Dude lives in one of thr most hedonistic societies ever, he's undoubtedly seen far worse than 2 gay kids
i like the way this guy talks to people, unlike many whom would have belittled or gone angry in that place.. we need more guys like this.. these men will make satan's job harded, while other ones make satans job easier. may allah bless him and make him reach to many many more people, and hope he never change to whats not better than he currently is
So respectful, so composed and competent Mash'Allah. This is how these conversations should take place.
yet so wrong
@@bigwalrus3901 how’s wrong?
@@rayyaanpinky2284 literally saying ppl chose to be gay
@@bigwalrus3901 yeah they choose to worship and follow their desires there’s a reason why God made man and woman instead of man and man 🤷♂️ god didn’t create you as a gay you choose to be
@@rayyaanpinky2284 god isnt real
im a christian and i do agree with Muslim since we're similar and have differences
That's true because all 3 Abrahamic religions have differences and similarities, but people try to change those religions and become progressive.
If you believe Islamic teaching come to Islam. It is the only preserved religion today.
@@Mr.Lucess Ibrahim peace and blessings be upon him did not have three religions, only one. Islam. He worshiped the Creator and rejected all idol worshipping.
@@tomolo2619 you quoted bible. We Muslims don't depend on that.
@@tomolo2619 nvm now that I realize I feel like I was ignoring im very verysorry
Allah SWT has forbidden us from Haram for a reason so that we can worship him in a pure way without having any poison or poisoning others with bad manners. There is indeed a wisdom behind it. May Allah forgive them if they repent and call back to Him. Ameen 🤲🏼
ALL MUSLIMS MUST READ
this muslim man is lying to you.
lets take a look at the already proven facts:
1. YES, if one iden. twin is gay then almost 100 percent of the time the other one is also gay
2. there is NO SPECIFIC gay gene, HOWEVER, there are vague combinations of genes for eg. Xq28 Gene (epigenetic material) that may cause gender dysphoria, bisexuality or homosexuality.
3. genes are not a very big factor that brings about homosexuality, it is one of the factors, however PRE NATAL BIOLOGICAL environment matters A LOT! lack of testosterone production in the womb can lead to an anatomically feminized brain. this causes any of the 4 things
a- homosexuality
b- gender non conforming behaviour
c_ transsexuality or gender dysphoria, and
d- bisexuality
4. DIFFERENCE IN BRAIN STRUCTURE- many biologists and neurologists have pointed out that gay men have identical brains- brains that have the exact same structure of the female brain.
lesbians have similar brain structures to that of men as well. the brains of gay men and straight men are different in terms of :
a - hypothalamus
b - thalamus
c - amygdala
d - size of certain brain parts
e - Cerebral hemispheres
5. Internal and external HORMONAL factors - many gay teenagers, after completing puberty and experiencing psycho physical changes, DEVELOP ATTRACTIONS TO OPPOSITE SEX. this is due to estrogen and testosterone. also many male homosexual detransitioners have developed attractions to FEMALES after starting testosterone blockers.
I KNOW YOUR RELIGION WANTS US KILLED, BUT PLEASE DONT SPREAD MISINFORMATION AND LIES ABOUT AN ALREADY TARGETED MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY.
dont support us, NO PROBLEM. BUT DONT SPREAD HATE AND LIES , ASSHOLES !
You are giving the best answers for the hardest questions brother. May Allah protect you from all the evil. Ameen
Ameen
Ameen!
The way you instantly deal with anyone trying to surpass you in knowledge of what you preach as well as knowledge of what they randomly present in front of you is absolutely impressive allahumma barik, May Allah Azzawajal preserve you brother
Aamiin…
Have you actually looked at the study he referenced? The boys shouldve called his bluff because the Robert Spitzer study was debunked
@@Matman651 Have you looked at the miracles of the Qur'an or read it ? Have you looked at the contradictions in the Bible ? Have you looked at the conversion rates of Islam ? Fastest growing religion in the world and not by birth, ever wondered why ? I could go on and on, the signs are many for those who want to know the truth. May Allah guide us and you.
@@siraat-al-mustaqeem Birth rates are actually converging with the Christian birth rate and conversion accounts for a very small percentage of the growth. In fact, the proportion of muslims who are irreligious (don't pray often or don't follow diet restrictions and fasting,etc) in middle to higher income countries is rising at an accelerating rate. 20 years ago, muslims were far more religious in these countries and now that piety has declined substantially and will continue to do so. E.g: Turkey, Tunisia, Morocco, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Kosovo, Bosnia, Albania, Azerbaijan, etc
Amiin
This guy is very patient and intelligent. I like how he explain his morals and he knows what he’s talking about. 💫💫💫
He's a hypocrite. He says you should interpret the Quran for yourself and that the Quran invites such thinking, then he turns around and argues with people who disagree with him because he is "in the right". That's a contradiction.
Please, let’s distinguish what is fact and what is fiction here. The holly Quran isn’t a something to be argued about and the man is explaining and reasoning what he believes to be the right path.
@@valhalla_1129 He told them to read the Quran and come to their own conclusion, it doesn't mean you can interpret it as anything you want, but how well you understood the points instead. The Quran is not a theory book where you can debate its contents, it's a book of guidance by the creator himself and should be followed as is its purpose. When he "argues", he clarifies instead according to what was written in the Quran. It isn't a contradiction, just your misunderstanding.
@@feelcollins4358 I'm not mistaken, I'm simply not referring to something he mentions in this video but in a different one.
@@feelcollins4358 ……guy. When you take in information and try to form a stance on something, that’s what interpretation means. You can’t just objectively take in information because we all INTERPRET what that information is to make sense of it. It takes 5 seconds to google, “interpretation” is just explaining an idea through your personal account.
Edit: Point being, we are not a hive mind. We all can’t interpret one thing universally the same. But we can agree that said idea is plausible to believe in.
A GCSE student arguing about studies and says "I don't have time to study etc"
This young man was very much a time waster and just wanted Muahmmed to say that he hates homosexuals etc.
Little did he know that Muhammed is masterful with his words and intellect mashallah
i think were supposed to write Allah Subhanahu wa ta'la with a capital A
@@farzana5929 How about you type it in the same way it was revealed in the final book?.
@@PO3TRYN3NTROPY i wasnt trying to be rude i just thought id say
whats gsce
@@RiyadinMonib exams for students in their final year of formal education in the UK. 15-16 year olds in the UK sit these.
The amount of class and respect Muhammad has. Mashallah. I watch so many Dawah videos but your level of patience, knowledge and kindness has really inspired me to learn more about the religion. So direct, straight to the point yet so respectful. May you attain the highest level of Jannah brother. You make myself and other Muslims fall in love with the religion all over again.
A very "willful" Muslim, still a Muslim. I so ENJOY & feel LOVE listening to Brother Ali! Bless You🌺
This was a very decent and respectful debate. Its nice to see that disagreement regarding beliefs doesn't translate to hating the individual, which is scarce these days. A lot of the community nowadays take it personally but in actuality, we love all humans.
He’s smart, may Allah increase his knowledge.
اللهم امين يا رب العالمين
ALL MUSLIMS MUST READ
this muslim man is lying to you.
lets take a look at the already proven facts:
1. YES, if one iden. twin is gay then almost 100 percent of the time the other one is also gay
2. there is NO SPECIFIC gay gene, HOWEVER, there are vague combinations of genes for eg. Xq28 Gene (epigenetic material) that may cause gender dysphoria, bisexuality or homosexuality.
3. genes are not a very big factor that brings about homosexuality, it is one of the factors, however PRE NATAL BIOLOGICAL environment matters A LOT! lack of testosterone production in the womb can lead to an anatomically feminized brain. this causes any of the 4 things
a- homosexuality
b- gender non conforming behaviour
c_ transsexuality or gender dysphoria, and
d- bisexuality
4. DIFFERENCE IN BRAIN STRUCTURE- many biologists and neurologists have pointed out that gay men have identical brains- brains that have the exact same structure of the female brain.
lesbians have similar brain structures to that of men as well. the brains of gay men and straight men are different in terms of :
a - hypothalamus
b - thalamus
c - amygdala
d - size of certain brain parts
e - Cerebral hemispheres
5. Internal and external HORMONAL factors - many gay teenagers, after completing puberty and experiencing psycho physical changes, DEVELOP ATTRACTIONS TO OPPOSITE SEX. this is due to estrogen and testosterone. also many male homosexual detransitioners have developed attractions to FEMALES after starting testosterone blockers.
I KNOW YOUR RELIGION WANTS US KILLED, BUT PLEASE DONT SPREAD MISINFORMATION AND LIES ABOUT AN ALREADY TARGETED MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY.
dont support us, NO PROBLEM. BUT DONT SPREAD HATE AND LIES , ASSHOLES !
He's intelligent but lacks wisdom
@@michaelhauser6440 you get wisdom through time and experience, he’s still a young man
@@michaelhauser6440 and the humility to learn. He seems a little bit too solidified with his stance and dont ponder the possibility of his notions being wrong.
"I am student. I don't have time to research these" - this is what broken education system do
Even though they must've felt offended. That will be turned into a positive and may bring them towards Islam. This conversation was very well taken care of. Ma sha Allah. May Allah guide us all towards Islam with the teachings of Muhammad, Peace be Upon him.
@みこ さこ Happiness is not the point of a life. It is only a feeling.
@みこ さこ Real happiness can only come from ALLAH. !
Submit to ALLAH through ISLAM.
Allah was just s random God created by random people in a random desert thousands of years ago. 😂😂.
@@jr5993 ALLAH has always been the creator, sustainer, and nourisher of the multiple world's. Even before the first sunrise. When there was nothing but ALLAH.The run of the mill universe/galaxies.
You are wrong J R.
@@israelmorris1789 your response doesn't surprise me. You are just too deluded to admit that we have very little knowledge of the world which we inhabit. You can believe your little fantasy stories all you want but it has no empirical evidence to support it. Allah this Allah that. I don't care about imaginary people. Learn to think for yourself.
I respect the knowledge you have on various topics and how u memorized different evidences, studies and Religious texts.
Iqra’ alot . (Read)
Go read the evidence he provided that Robert Spitzer study was debunked even the author said it was flawed
@みこ さこ No shut up
MashaaAllah the manner, the patience, the smooth spontaneous responds and the honesty of our brother Muhammed Ali here is beautiful. May those two students ponder of what our brother has said to them. May Allah reward The Muslim Lantern team and grant them Jannah. Ameen Ya Rabb.
We hate the sin, not hate the person for doing the sin
“Sin” isn’t real, it’s a myth
@@flunkiebubs2002 good/evil isn't real,it's a myth. Murder isn't real it's a myth,it's called unaliving people. Myths are also not real
How @@flunkiebubs2002
@@Mesopotamia-v6d Because the Bible is a fairytale book, nothing in it is true.
Okay but lowkey most would hate the person even if they arent supposed to
Brother, the way you worded the first point of how evil is a necessity for you to recognize good, was so beatifully worded. Mashallah
"God created Adam with Eve, not Adam with Steve" 😆
Shamsi Style 😎👍🏼
Nahhh hahahaha yeahhh sick people
Well said bro.
@@angelosaleh8344 heehehe i like when shamsi says it
😆😂👍🏼
This brother is so respectful towards the people he preaches it gives me a feeling of what true Islam is like. Not like some other daweehs who try to do intellectual janaza of the person they are arguing against. Keep up the good work . Mashallah
Nothing wrong with doing an intellectual janaaza of some people when it's necessary.
@@TMNmedia no need to name someone and be responsible to allah on the day of judgement
@@hamzanocap we need to remove our arrogance if we truly believe in Allah and the hereafter. Allah guides whom he wills
@@TMNmedia 👋👋
@@TMNmedia i dont agree, because if you do that type of dawah it has many drawbacks.
you could have got more views without blurring the background like other channels, but there wouldn't be barakah, may Allah bless this channel!
@Kiki Kiki people wearing inappropriate clothes semi naked, etc
@@Mo9ala7 doesn't matter 🤣there's nothing wrong with showing people and looking at them. Let everyone look and see.
@@gold-toponym Name checks out
@@deathmarch8354 and? Just because i have a Sanskrit name doesn't mean i throw away my history and ancestry unlike people of the subcontinent. 🤭 And doesn't mean I'm not Muslim.
@@gold-toponym You do realise his comment was about something else and not because your name is Sanskrit lol...
Now that’s how you handle a debate, preach brother
Masha Allah. This brother really superb. He keeps updating knowledge too.May Allah give him and us always guidance and improve knowledge.😊
Indeed
Ameen
Actually read the studies he speaks of rather than blindly following
@@Matman651blindly following?
Alhamdulillah, Muhammad Ali is probably one of the most knowledgeable Muslim I have ever seen. Salam from Pakistan!
"It not the eyes that blind but heart is"- Surah Al- Hajj, verse 46
Thank you for using intellect and patience to give people a true understanding of what islam is about. Some people doing street dawah lose their patience and get frustrated. It becomes a heated argument instead of peacefully delivering information. May God increase your patience and understanding and guide you to speak the truth in a clear and concise way.
Poor kid. Realised his 'concrete' beliefs were pretty brittle after all. He has a lot of learning to do.
But the reason his beliefs seem brittle is because of lies. That Robert Spitzer study is not fact. The author retracted it as he knew it was flawed and it has been debunked. I wish the boys woulda called his bluff and searched it
They need to replace the term "concrete" lol, it really is brittle as a material
religious beliefs arent concrete either though.
@@michaeljordan8236 u gae
@@michaeljordan8236 Bro not even the research Muhammed mentioned was concrete
Alhamdulillah for these Gems who propagate Islam the way it should , Alhamdulillah for their manners , their knowledge. This is the young generation of Islam that will enlighten the world enough to know what's right and what's wrong.
This is the level of compassion required when dealing with ppl whose whole identity is built upon their sexuality. It can't be easy for someone to accept the truth when it attacks their whole paradigm.
Well said. Yup, when he narrows his whole identity down purely to his sexuality, that's sad. 🤦♂️
i'm part of the lgbt commmunity and even i had to laugh at the student. ali really put things into perspective and i respect him for that. what i learned from this video is that society really does have influence on the common beliefs, and i think that people should let others live their lives as they please, even if their beliefs conflict. you can't agree with everyone, and that will stay a fact. while i am not muslim, i can see ali's points and acknowledge them.
on another note, i do think that these days society's perspective of the lgbt community has warped so terribly that some people come out as gay to be trendy, or even shame people for being "cishets". the idea of Pride is becoming so misunderstood that people are now proud to be gay, instead of being proud to be themselves
@@Noonas_admirer FAX, especially that last part. It's the pride of daring to express, not being gay directly. It's like saying you're proud of being straight, and there will definitely be some offended by that statement alone.
But at least the kid was more self-aware than most, since he acknowledged and said that it was hard for him to accept it since he's homosexual himself.
The reason there is “gay pride” is to celebrate the overcoming of oppression. This is why there is not straight pride, society has never oppressed people for being straight.
@@FriarJoe66 There are many oppressed groups and many that had it tough. What about people with unseen handicaps like autism, adhd etc? The fact is that it is a lot more than a celebration, it's pushing your sexuality unto others, even children. It's propagation, not just celebration.
I’m muslim and have attraction to the same sex. I cannot deny that these homosexual feelings are true, but I came to the conclusion that it is also possible to control them, and even learn to have attraction to the opposite sex. But to achieve this you must first be really convinced that LGBT+ is not a good thing, apart from religiously. Thus I agree with you, it’s like a very hard test.
I feel like it's quite unfair for gay moslems. I been like this since I could remember and I can't bring myself to like women. I'd rather be straight and have any other problem than my sexuality.
Why out of all things I should be the minority and the most detestable one at that.
I'm grateful with what I have but even though I try to be religious, I'm feel like hell is waiting for me.
@@folkloreevermore2797but because of you fighting the urge, your rewards are greater. I feel like if you fight those urges, I would envy you. I’m straight and I did sins and I feel like I might end up in Jahannam. But I do repent and I try my hardest to change. I hate being prideful(the sin that got the devil kicked out) and being so full of anger because I’m hot-tempered. For now I’m doing my best to read and understand the Quran rather than just read without understanding the meaning. I just hope it’s not too late for me 😔
@@chaoticboy626 dude idk how it's like to be straight and I think people got their own problem/test going on in their life. I know that God is fair, but it's hard to think that way because I been so different compared to my colleagues. Knowing that Abu Thalib had been kind and protective towards Muhammad but he's still going to hell because he's not a moslem. Knowing that majority of hell residents are women because most of them are "ungrateful" "Discontent" Towards their husbands..
Idk anymore. If God is real I hope he'd guide me in the future. But now I just can't.
I agree that it is a hard test for those affected and it’s just that, a test. I’m Muslim but I kind of lost respect for Muhammad for this and it also shows how uncritical people are, it’s so easy to fool them. A quick search on google reveals that the first study by spitzer was bad by his own admission. Spitzer wrote an apology letter to the lgbt community and said that his study was poorly designed and isn’t reliable. Not only that but twin studies don’t even corroborate what he says. Twin studies show that the likelihood of 2 fraternal twins being gay are about 22 percent whereas for identical twins it’s about 52 percent. That is a higher than chance percentage and statistically significant. This suggests that there is a genetic component to sexuality but the environment also plays a role. This is a case of epigenetics. This isn’t to say that homosexuality is ok, it’s clearly haram and we shouldn’t engage in it but we need to have more compassion for others dealing with this. Especially fellow Muslims who deal with this but suffer in silence. Our community is so hateful and hostile towards homosexuals and we demonize them not realizing that the brother or sister next to you is crying inside listening to you say things like homosexuals are disgusting, are perverted, they must be killed etc. They are already dealing with a big test, we don’t need to make it worse. To some extent I think that if they didn’t have to keep such a thing a secret and could freely talk about it with others, they wouldn’t be as preoccupied by it and it would be easier for them to bear. Let’s tell them the truth without making it a taboo. As an example, people who fall into zina, we acknowledge that it’s a big sin and tell them to repent but afterwards, we move on from that and don’t label them or treat them badly. We still allow them to be a part of the community. I think this is the approach we should take with homosexuals too.
@@ft7037 spritzer was condemned because he went against their narrative. but doesn't mean the research the result of the research not exist or even been done.
I am proud to be a Indian Muslim.
ManshaAllah may Allah bless you 🙏 💖
@@Rationality4Life doesn't matter if there's rise of ex-muslim.
because Allah said we will be replaced by those who love him more. so no matter what happens, Islam will prevail one way or other way around, like a natural flow.
@@Rationality4Life by the way, are you Indian!
@@Rationality4Life i told you no matter what happens, the Muslims you are talking about will be replaced by those who love Allah more.
by the way, are you Indian!
@@Rationality4Life Its not surprising at all bro. Its been prophecied by prophet Muhammad peace and blessing be upon him that at the end of time, the amount of muslim will be huge but weak in faith.
Manshallah i watched this video and immediately subscribed 🙏🏽 love from Australia..keep up the dawah my brothers, only allah knows today's world needs islam more than they think☪️🤲🏽
ALL MUSLIMS MUST READ
this muslim man is lying to you.
lets take a look at the already proven facts:
1. YES, if one iden. twin is gay then almost 100 percent of the time the other one is also gay
2. there is NO SPECIFIC gay gene, HOWEVER, there are vague combinations of genes for eg. Xq28 Gene (epigenetic material) that may cause gender dysphoria, bisexuality or homosexuality.
3. genes are not a very big factor that brings about homosexuality, it is one of the factors, however PRE NATAL BIOLOGICAL environment matters A LOT! lack of testosterone production in the womb can lead to an anatomically feminized brain. this causes any of the 4 things
a- homosexuality
b- gender non conforming behaviour
c_ transsexuality or gender dysphoria, and
d- bisexuality
4. DIFFERENCE IN BRAIN STRUCTURE- many biologists and neurologists have pointed out that gay men have identical brains- brains that have the exact same structure of the female brain.
lesbians have similar brain structures to that of men as well. the brains of gay men and straight men are different in terms of :
a - hypothalamus
b - thalamus
c - amygdala
d - size of certain brain parts
e - Cerebral hemispheres
5. Internal and external HORMONAL factors - many gay teenagers, after completing puberty and experiencing psycho physical changes, DEVELOP ATTRACTIONS TO OPPOSITE SEX. this is due to estrogen and testosterone. also many male homosexual detransitioners have developed attractions to FEMALES after starting testosterone blockers.
I KNOW YOUR RELIGION WANTS US KILLED, BUT PLEASE DONT SPREAD MISINFORMATION AND LIES ABOUT AN ALREADY TARGETED MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY.
dont support us, NO PROBLEM. BUT DONT SPREAD HATE AND LIES , ASSHOLES !
Brilliant way of speaking and conversing. Allah give us all patience and ability to speak in such a nice and friendly way.
لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله
if all muslims would be like a him the world would be a bether place
I was born catholic and still a catholic but now that im older and mature I want to learn more about other religions.
Quran about Christians - "and you will find the nearest of them in affection to the believers (muslims) those who say, "We are Christians." That is because among them are priests and monks and because they are not arrogant." 💠5:82
The reason he is so angry, aggressive and dismissive is because his fitrah knows that being homosexual is wrong. He is trying to get brother Muhammad to accept his sin so he can feel good about himself. Alhamdulliah for the perfection of Islam truly a terrifying world without it.
No doubt, alhamdulillah
@@Rationality4Life Alhamdulillah for Islam
@@TMNmedia ignore it, it looks like black magic, don't even read it.
@@Rationality4Life yea , homosexuality was there in past too , that's why it was prohibited in first place. Acceptance is different thing. Alot of things were accepted in ancient times. Including incest , Egyptian king and all were all about it. Now it's not accept, what's ur point i don't understand
And you think that you knows what he is feeling in this moment, that is absurd.
This why of thinking is pathetic, that anyone who get emotionally involved confirms the other person.
Can you proof me that there exist such a thing as your fitrah? And don't dare to claim general phenomenons, feelings etc for your own ideology, this would make it even more pathetic and seems like desprately looking to be the one with the absolute truth.
It's nice to see people with different opinions still respecting eachother. Well done brother for your patience mashallah
@mas-udal-hassan9277akhi what’s the reasoning behind your inquiry? Where in this statement does it leave room for a rebuke let alone a correlation to said statement by the OP. Again what gave way for you to ask that unless English isn’t your first language hence “LGBO” you understood some words , insinuating “ oh it’s the alphabet people” and he’s taking sides and ranting against our beliefs when in fact the OP is praising the civil discourse between strangers on opposite spectrums in society which you don’t see much of. I might be wrong my self in criticizing you for saying two words and a four letter abbreviation the fourth being a “T” and not a “ O” anyways your question came off hostile and triggering and off topic tryna get a bitter response to merit what ever outta pocket insult … Ahki what was the trigger for that question you butchered??? Lol
I realized that my reply is just wasted breath and keystrokes. Can’t imagine what he’s gonna ask me next “ Are you a Lego “ I wrote all that just for him to utter what I wrote. Subxaanallah that question was out of context and came out of a thrift store rocwear back pocket 👖. Either he a troll or living life blissful.
@mas-udal-hassan9277 I apologize sincerely. What does it mean ?
Ali , it would be difficult for someone not to have responded with a better answer for every question which was asked, may Allah reward you, I was very impressed
Dang his argumentative skills, patience and kindness are enviable.
He’s a brainwashed sheep
he's a great liar, using pseudoscience, lies and talking over an impressionable, meek guy to make his points.
@@blunderbuss1395making clear points and letting the opposite person express their questions and meanings is manipulation exactly
@@Badchocolatemold making clear points using christian fundamentalist pseudoscience, and then using research that the researcher themselves said was a flawed, unscientific research is manipulation, as well as straight up lying that muslims don't hate homosexuals when they are actively looked down upon, subject to countless hate crimes and even execution for just being gay in many muslim countries. the student clearly hasn't read up on what goes on in the middle east, so he is being manipulated by this absolute lying dickweed that not only are muslims so accepting and merciful, but that he is actively making a choice to be gay when literally anybody who isn't a religious fanatic or an extreme conservative would understand that your sexuality is innate even if it is not genetic, like personality or any sort of neurodivergence that you can't just iron out of a person. his argument is wholly unscientific, saying that homosexuality is wrong because his religion says so, while referencing "scientific" studies to back up his points. he also doubts the students identity as a homosexual, while demanding respect for his own beliefs, all at the same time as he tries to lie that he isn't hateful. erasure of marginalized groups and their struggles is, and will always be, hateful.
"So ur heterosexual, right?"
"No, I am not"
I lost it there upon realization 💀😂
Why did you lose it? You do know there are millions of gay people. Or is that a big revelation for you?
@@alexanderanghel7946 Actually not the case. Are you assuming or something?
@@gamerforlife3946 the most conservative estimates i've seen for homosexuals in the usa are around 3 % at the very lowest. that's 9 million people right there, at the very least
@@maxwell6511 What’s that got to do with the og comment… Stop assuming that he was talking about number lol
@@gamerforlife3946 seems like you should keep on being a gamer for life as logical discussion doesn't seem to suit you
First time watching your videos and I must say it's very different from Speaker's corner. I like the way this conversation was handled. Well done and may Allah reward you with his mercy and blessings. Ameen!❤️
Wow im Impressum how gentle and polite he was. He acted very wisely and calm in opposite to the boys who almost attacked him bc they got emotional and couldn’t believe the truth. They did not show any evidence. They did not support their argument bc they couldn’t think logically. Brother Ali showed them many evidences and he explained everything very simple and understandable. ❤❤❤❤❤
what evidence do you have?
@@HT-rq5pi the entire video 🤦♂️
@@Max.596 I did not see any evidence
@@purple10101 Then you either missed it or are blind.
@@iphantomancerxd ok I missed it but what Is the problem with homosexuality .It's not like we are trying hurt anybody We are just human not
Islam is the way of life. ❤❤
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😅😅😅😅evil religion
@@juniorbrandt5121 yep it is
@@leedavies3563 of course.
They hang homosexuals, stone women and exterminate Jews.
@@leedavies3563🤓🙈🤠
How people can publicly say they are gay without any hint of shame still blows my mind.
from the other perspective, thinking it's not horrifying to raise children to hate themselves can be equally mind-blowing.
@chad stary Don't be, there's nothing wrong with you. I promise they won't pick you or think you're better than the rest of us
@@myname7937Thinking of people raising their children gay, is indeed raising them to have to hate themselves.
Without shame? Lol y'all creating more DL people and you don't realize it😂
@@myname7937thinking if their parents teach them properly
14:16 "Homosexual tendencies or homosexual attraction does not take him out of the fold of Islam.
You can be a Muslim and you have these type of feelings, you are accountable for your actions whether you will act upon those feelings or not. So if someone has those feelings then he does not act upon them, in Islam he gets rewarded; if it's not that he gets punished or looked down. The point in fact he gets reward because he suppressed something that the Creator told him not to do even though he's inclining towards that. So we there's a separation between me being evil towards someone or hating someone. That's all I was making in the beginning: separation between the act and the god's commands."
that's the thing with people.... they don't want Islam...or any religion to "tell" them what to do, believe or accept, YET...they want everyone to listen and accept what they TELL them.
As if countries with a Muslim majority are any more tolerant, most of them homosexuality isn't even legal while in no Western state Islam is forbidden to practice.
I don't get why some people in the comments are making it sound as if the guy is a bad person for the way he was talking, like he has the full right to ask and debate and just speak whatever he has in his mind even if he wasn't completely educated on the topic, this is the whole point of such a conversation, to think and to learn, be nice please
Yeah, one of the best ways to understand the people you disagree with is just speak to them
He was brave, comfortable and respectful despite obviously disagreeing with Ali, and that should be respected
Many PPL I mean most muslims love it when non muslims ask questions
I don't disagree but I wish the kid wasn't so panicked as if he was being threatened since the other guy isn't fighting or being agressive
He was very well educated for his age. The Muslim dude is not very well educated. Read about Dr. Spitzer and this "study" he uses to defend his argument. Not really nice to try to brainwash someone with fake science...
@@jackfelt1983Islam is a threat though, it’s very dangerous, as a gay man I do feel threatened by Muslims.
Even if a straight man get horny and want to commit zina, and he fears Allah and suppress his feelings, he'll get rewarded for it in the Hereafter. Same with gay Muslim men. Allah tested him with the feeling of attraction to men, and if he obeys Allah not to commit homosexual act or zina that is his good deeds and he'll be rewarded in the Hereafter as well.
Any gay Muslim men who continously obeys Allah is actually doing greater jihad against his own nafs and get continuously being recorded as ibadah. Never look down upon anyone; straight or gay. Even a prostitute who gave water to a thirsty dog was forgiven by Allah (Sahih Al- Bukhari). This life is a test, and Allah never burden anyone beyond what he or she can bear.
Gay muslim not a thing bro
@@sus8485 fr lets stop using this term
@@sus8485 no, it is a thing. One can be gay and be a muslim. Thoughts are not haram. He’s not doing anything bad if he doesn’t act on his feelings.
@@wakelogger8357he didn’t say anything wrong but alright.
This is the same with saying "It's okay not to be okay", where in fact that's just a statement to make that particular individual feel it's "okay" to be doing whatever you are doing. However, it doesn't. Wrong means wrong. Right means right. There's no in between. That's where Islam explains it all for those who thinks.
theres 'in between's. They lie in the context. killing is wrong, but if you have no choice and do it for self defense then it's justified.
@@DePeaceHunter : yeah you are right and I totally agree to that to a certain extent base on many context. in general, what is wrong is wrong is wrong. it's like also saying female means female.😉
@@nadiacerbas
I'm afraid even in that case theres context. But only for people born with both genitals :)
@@DePeaceHunter Who lies in the context? The brother has already said that god generally gives us an innate ability to recognise right from wrong, but unfortunately, due to the society it gets clouded. Killing is generally bad, but if you have no choice and you have to save others or yourself if you're being wrongfully targeted.
@ffori
I'm aware of that and I don't disagree with you.
Masha Allah brother Mohammed Ali. May Allah grant you the strength and ability to continue in sharing your knowledge with both believers and non believers.
i wish i can be like this brother. very knowledgable.
Hang out with people like him. In sha Allah it will spread to you
Aamiin, May Allah grant you the most suitable ilm/knowledge including manfaat usefull for humanity and religion. Aamiin 🤲🏼
Then just do it
I really wish I had this level of patience
It's a mental problem when these people not only engage in these acts, but they define themselves by this behaviour. I define myself as Muslim, not as heterosexual.
What acts? Holding hands, kissing, hugging, spending time together, talking, playing, helping each other, etc. What acts? Sex is only 1% of the time of a couple but you're obsessed with it. When you're so obsessed with sex, why do you judge gays for wanting to be together? It's normal human thing to do. There is nothing wrong that you can mention about 2 men being together
@@niculaelaurentiu1201Besides hugging and kissing u just described normal friends
@@MoneyMoney-00 Isn't your lover your best friend too? It's normal like that.
my man dropping scientists and their studies after dude said he doesn't "memorise scientists in his free time"
The claims this guy was saying was crazy. Brother Muhammad did an absolute masterclass here.
ALL MUSLIMS MUST READ
this muslim man is lying to you.
lets take a look at the already proven facts:
1. YES, if one iden. twin is gay then almost 100 percent of the time the other one is also gay
2. there is NO SPECIFIC gay gene, HOWEVER, there are vague combinations of genes for eg. Xq28 Gene (epigenetic material) that may cause gender dysphoria, bisexuality or homosexuality.
3. genes are not a very big factor that brings about homosexuality, it is one of the factors, however PRE NATAL BIOLOGICAL environment matters A LOT! lack of testosterone production in the womb can lead to an anatomically feminized brain. this causes any of the 4 things
a- homosexuality
b- gender non conforming behaviour
c_ transsexuality or gender dysphoria, and
d- bisexuality
4. DIFFERENCE IN BRAIN STRUCTURE- many biologists and neurologists have pointed out that gay men have identical brains- brains that have the exact same structure of the female brain.
lesbians have similar brain structures to that of men as well. the brains of gay men and straight men are different in terms of :
a - hypothalamus
b - thalamus
c - amygdala
d - size of certain brain parts
e - Cerebral hemispheres
5. Internal and external HORMONAL factors - many gay teenagers, after completing puberty and experiencing psycho physical changes, DEVELOP ATTRACTIONS TO OPPOSITE SEX. this is due to estrogen and testosterone. also many male homosexual detransitioners have developed attractions to FEMALES after starting testosterone blockers.
I KNOW YOUR RELIGION WANTS US KILLED, BUT PLEASE DONT SPREAD MISINFORMATION AND LIES ABOUT AN ALREADY TARGETED MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY.
dont support us, NO PROBLEM. BUT DONT SPREAD HATE AND LIES , ASSHOLES !
i wanna ask which claims you thought were crazy. not in a disrespectful way, only curiously and in the name of friendly debate is all. you dont have to respond if you dont want to debate, but im curious where we saw differently
@@fishiefish2249Litterly every point he made in the video he is young so you have to put this down to ignorance:
1) claiming that the forbidden things is life is imhertily bad as is the creator that decided it, when he hasn't studied morality specifically presentism vs objective. (I.e. how do you know something is good and bad and where does that internal compass come from)
2) saying that homosexually is innate (with zero evidance just testimony). Academia says the exact opposite.
3) claiming that humans can't control the action and saying it's bad to be called a sin in society, when medically speaking nothing in Islam is bad for your health as it agrees with modern science (despite being writen 1400 years ago e.g. just google nhs homosexually you will find at least 13 health conditions associated with it thus it cant be objective).
4) Again claiming that homosexually isn't eviroment based (when acedmically it is and not gene expressions based)
5) claiming hormones/testosterone causes attraction - this is not true. It's an effect to a response of an metaphysical construct which you can't measure. (I.e. his claim is response comes before cause.)
6) inccorectlt defining a straw man falicy, identical twins, conversation therapy, etc...saying that his lack of knowledge is because of being young - age does not determine knowledge.
7) confusing the thought Vs the action: In Islam a sin is only a sin when it's an action but in a liberalised society (because of limitations of language) that action has become an identity. I.e. his assumption is it is who he his (when actually acedmically spekaing by the time he is 25 he will most likely be bi than anything else according to science). Aka you don't call someone a smoker because he things about smoking it's only when he does that action. Then calling that system that says "don't do this thing which is bad for your health" hateful. It should be classed as protective no? Islam protects the society from the individuals and the individuals from themselves.
Mashallah my brother is sooo knowledgeable and intellectual. He is such a great role model for our younger generation. May Allah give him the best of both worlds. Ameen
Maa Shaa Allah tabarak Allah
Great role model for young “and” old! ❤️🇦🇺
ALL MUSLIMS MUST READ
this muslim man is lying to you.
lets take a look at the already proven facts:
1. YES, if one iden. twin is gay then almost 100 percent of the time the other one is also gay
2. there is NO SPECIFIC gay gene, HOWEVER, there are vague combinations of genes for eg. Xq28 Gene (epigenetic material) that may cause gender dysphoria, bisexuality or homosexuality.
3. genes are not a very big factor that brings about homosexuality, it is one of the factors, however PRE NATAL BIOLOGICAL environment matters A LOT! lack of testosterone production in the womb can lead to an anatomically feminized brain. this causes any of the 4 things
a- homosexuality
b- gender non conforming behaviour
c_ transsexuality or gender dysphoria, and
d- bisexuality
4. DIFFERENCE IN BRAIN STRUCTURE- many biologists and neurologists have pointed out that gay men have identical brains- brains that have the exact same structure of the female brain.
lesbians have similar brain structures to that of men as well. the brains of gay men and straight men are different in terms of :
a - hypothalamus
b - thalamus
c - amygdala
d - size of certain brain parts
e - Cerebral hemispheres
5. Internal and external HORMONAL factors - many gay teenagers, after completing puberty and experiencing psycho physical changes, DEVELOP ATTRACTIONS TO OPPOSITE SEX. this is due to estrogen and testosterone. also many male homosexual detransitioners have developed attractions to FEMALES after starting testosterone blockers.
I KNOW YOUR RELIGION WANTS US KILLED, BUT PLEASE DONT SPREAD MISINFORMATION AND LIES ABOUT AN ALREADY TARGETED MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY.
dont support us, NO PROBLEM. BUT DONT SPREAD HATE AND LIES , ASSHOLES !
Angry young man right there! Job well done Mohammed. You conveyed the message may Allah be pleased with you.
he wasnt angry he knew his understanding is flawed
feeling for someone is not haram in islam but acting on it is.
exactly. why is it so hard to understand? i think when we have prejudices it's hard to think clear and we could be blinded by our prejudice
Ty simply put. Make sense
The level of patience we must have. Bravo brother.
That was a lovely conversation. Young man is defensive because he is fighting his fitrah deep down inside...
yeah,before lgbtq blew up,i have friends tht we can see him as "soft boy" tht incline do what women do,and out of curiousity i asked him why he didnt atleast trying to acts like a man or sit like a man,and he tells his story of how his parents used to grooming him as girl,and many cases says tht they were develop those type of feelings at the young age mainly the environment and stuff,same goes to no one born introverts,every introverts have similar story tht make them become an introvert.
@@Rationality4Life you saying tht,but there is also study indicates there is no such things as homosexuality gene,my friend tht are gay always have some kind of childhood trauma,lesbian friend tht i know been bullying by group of men and influence her desire.There is 1 gay guy talked about his journey also have sexual trauma inflicted by his uncle when he just a kid,fall in love with another homo guy and have anal sex,get tricked by him and he get hiv,iam genuine wanted to know and indeed its not something you born at,but its byproduct of your childhood emvironment,there is those tht used to have gf but turn to homosexual.
You wanted to believed in it or justify it as such but the truth homosexuality are byproduct of environment and situations.I.mean.comparing animals to human?...thts so low dont you think so? There is animals tht can changed their sex,from male to female and etc.What i understand is LGBTQ are all about desire.
So what if i have feelings to my own sister? Is tht from my homo gene or what? What makes its any different then homosexual acts im also includes pedophile acts.What differs men doing fornication to another men any differents then pedophile or incest? Because many bases "love out of love" but you guys endup fvcking,i love my male sister but i dont french kiss her...
So whats ur answer will be my friend?
@@popcornmovietrailer960 fax
@@popcornmovietrailer960 I was raised Christian and I'm bisexual. I have a boyfriend. Has nothing to do with my morals, I don't like the LGBT community much either. The problem is social media and how it puts echoing viewpoints together to enhance them. The few believe to be the voice of the many.
I disagree with Ali too about this, he tends to contradict himself, but I don't hate the guy for it either. He's free to have his own viewpoints and nobody can stop him, that's how the world works. The real world, at least. The internet is much different.
@@valhalla_1129 He didn’t contradict himself… But it’s your thing
When you learn psychology (actually learning through college)
the most reasonable answer of why people being gay/lesbian is environment/social influence
because it is something that a person learned and make a habit for
nope Im definitely born this way
then you never studied psychology in that case because you are born as a gay
You saying that it's "the most reasonable answer" is meaningless. What you are saying is the most reasonable to YOU. I imagine you were given a multiple choice to discuss and you answered incorrectly. No professional psychologist worth their salt would agree with that incorrect assertion. I suggest that you are not working hard enough in your college level psychology class at all.
@@thisbtchisraginghomosexual1655 no you aren't
There is no scientific evidences to prove that
thing is, people cant control who they’re attracted to. you cant study attraction towards the same gender when youre not attracted to the same gender.
That's the first time I see you
And I'm already a fan for that whole personality you demonstrated here
Patient, calm, respectful, and you know what are you talking about.
I really wish now to have your temper
I'm a man who tends to be loud when my patient is done, not so easily outraged but if I hear stupidity (or what I consider stupidity) or someone irritates me, I quickly switch to angry mode.
Communication throughout the screen makes it easier for me since even if I'm screaming ppl don't really get that I'm speaking with anger since I'm generally spontaneous, so it sounds my normal tone to them, but in real life I have to pressure it more to stay as cool as possible.
Proud of you as a Muslim MashAllah 👏👏👏👏👏
They literally be following trends blindly and there's the man who MashAllah has studied so well and talks rationally with open critiques RESPECT!!!! 👏🤲✨🙌
"following trends" ????
@@EscalopeFluo literally like wtf?
now tell me how being gay is a trend... if you only like women whatever thing you do you will never like a man. you will never have feelings for a man. you will never feel sexually and romantically feel attracted to a man. and nobody is forcing you to be gay lmao. queerbaiting is another stuff, where someone straight pretends to be gay, but you'll never see someone straight with another same sex person. being gay is not a trend, it's not like you wake up and decide to change who you are sexually attracted to. make it make sense.
Okay sorry if hurt I should rephrase it
But just respectfully an opinion that don't you think we should evaluate the feelings before actually acting upon them and just try to like know why you feeling it and it should go in all cases even with heteros
Rest is that I want the ppl of the other side too to come with some information on all stuff they are depending their life on not just emotionally active
I respect all of you guys don't ever think ill ever bash or mark you bad as whole, but don't base your whole personality on mere orientation humans have a lot more🤝
MashaAllah the delivery, understanding and the knowledge of the subject discussed is impressive.
Br Ali has done extensive research...I'm impressed. Alhamdolillah.
Just because you feel something, it doesn’t make it your purpose in life, live for your purpose not how you feel
Typical “open minded” people when their idea is factually put down everything is wrong.. im impressed how calm this brother is.
May Allah Protect this brother ( and us ) from All Kinds of Evil. Ameen
@みこ さこ La alih ala Allah Muhammad rasul Allah
This is the only way to the truth
@@dumbkingdoughnut Wise words.
Ameen
This guys was not ready for my brothers intellect. I hope he has an open mind to critically think and not blindly follow society.
10:34 “You’re a heterosexual, right?
“No.”
I BURST OUT LAUGHING
I used to be annoyed to find this brother's videos popping up & seeing the thumbnails, idky. I finally clicked and listened. Then I kept listening... Beautifully presents each argument, skillfully tackles each point, calmly composed with poignant demeanour - respectable. Wonder from whom & where he studied...
Lol you broke him apart “according to who” 😂😂
Mash'Allah bro you are amazing and have the most patience. Why do I feel that this kid who came to argue about being gay is actually feeling in his heart he is wrong and trying to justify himself by arguing with brother Ali?
I felt it too
Subhanallah tabarakallahu. Barakallahufiikum brother Ali.
You really shows both the knowledge and ethics at he same time. This should be the way to spread the truth of Islam. May Allahazza wajalla keep you healthy and extend your knowledge Insya Allah to spread the real truth. Aamiin.
Beautiful Dawah. When compared to a certain US guy who is downright rude and unkind in his Dawah, I find Muhammad’s approach so much more humane.
Instead of attacking people, being offensive and literally driving them away from Islam due to sheer unkindness and bad attitude, Muhammad instead chooses respect while staying firm on the religion. Beautiful.
Mohammad Ali honors us in representation. MashaAllah tabarakAllah Allah protect him and us. Ameen
People need to stop saying "they hate gays" when they just disagree
Mashaallah. Such beautiful Akhlaque and amazing way of giving Da'wah. May Allah preserve you, bless you immensely and May Allah help us all give Da'wah with such wisdom and beautiful manners.
MaashaAllah brother, you are brilliant. May Allah protect you and increase you in knowledge and patience to deal with the lost/ignorant people that fill our societies