It’s also worth mentioning that we were watching 20”ish tellys in those days…. And tv reception in Wales (well the bit I lived in, at least) was pretty poor well into the 80’s! ….. all of which helped to render the ropiest of visuals as terrifying and real (oh, plus we were all pre-Star Wars, too. Which helped)…..
Even if the realisation leaves something to be desired, i always thought the concept of the Krotons, or at least what was implied about them, was pretty neat. Creatures that exist in a liquid form and use energy derived from mental power to reconstitute themselves. What a cool sci-fi idea.
I love the Krotons - loads of Troughton and big creepy crystalline monsters (had never been tried before) with really disturbing voices. And that eeries doorway with monsters beyond it set-up. Should read Alien Bodies by Lawrence Miles - he totally rehabilitates the Krotons as terrifying and powerful creatures (one eats a Dalek through a feeding tube)...
Totally agree it was weak and weird, but when I recently watched it on iPlayer I was really amused by the arguing married couple vibe the Krotons had. Especially when their heads were rotating really fast which I took to mean frustration.
My major problem with “The Krotons” was that it felt like literally EVERYTHING was zoomed in WAY TOO CLOSE and I just couldn’t get a feel for what was going on…hard for me to feel menaced by some weird robot thing that only looks impressive because the camera’s filming right up its arse…😅😵💫 Claustrophobic doesn’t even begin to describe it…”The Krotons” is the only story that I honestly think would’ve been actually IMPROVED if it actually had the decency to be missing, at least then I could IMAGINE them as a well-conceived threat impressively shot with nice and wide ATMOSPHERIC viewing angles rather than having to accept the fully-intact hard truth that everything’s shot closer than Frazier Hines’ stock talking telesnap…😵💫😬😅 Aside from the bickering voices themselves which are nice in an ironically funny way, this one makes “The Dominators” watchable by comparison…😵💫
If the Krotons weren't masterminds... I guess that's to be expected. These weren't even necessarily scientists, just a couple of surviving midshipmen from a crew of four. Essentially a couple of redshirts.
The Krotons. One of my favourite Doctor Who series, I saw it the first time around, it was cold and wet, Man City and Man U were top of the table and Jimmy Greaves was scoring wonder goals in the snow!………It’s pointless overanalysing and being hypocritical of 60’s WHO, it was a product of its time and at that time I thought it was pretty scary!
Never really understood the hate this serial gets. I guess because it's just average.. AND of course being the only complete Troughton 4-Parter available in 1981, was probably the only serial that most of us my age got to see from the 2nd Doctor. The received wisdom was that this was a bad representation of the era.. and that just kinda stuck. The era has a problem in that it really doesn't have too many absolute stinkers (The Space Pirates? The Dominators?), so a perfectly servicable serial like this gets kinda downvoted in Fandom. Holmes would also rip off his own basic plot in The Mysterious Planet part of Trail of a Time Lord, with two candidates being sent to work for an alien Overlord... I like it because it's a real Zoe showcase, I love the bants between her and the Doctor here. I like the weird electronic music (enough to buy the 10" LP of all the blips and blops), I like the way it eschewed Incidental Music, whether or not that was a success.
Are you High Brains? We require High Brains for our Dynatrope. We visited a country called the United States, but found few High Brains there. We must have High Brains!!!!!!!!
Weirdly, a few years after this episode, a new family moved to town, and the sons started at my school. They were called the Krotons. Perhaps that's why they had to move 😊
'60s who had such good robots. It really felt like sci-fi then. And, strangely, the universe of '60s Who feels bigger, to me. I don't entirely know why.
Maybe perhaps someone could have the halfway decent sense to actually make a costume that looks good enough to shoot from a decent viewing angle instead of filming everything so up close and personal that you almost feel like if it farted you’d smell it through the telly…😵💫
Watched this one with my partner and every time someone mentioned the krotons we'd say "ahh man, I hate the krotons" Made the whole affair a lot more fun
Typically, cubes of dry or stale bread, lightly coated in oil, butter, various seasonings and/or cheese which are then either baked or fried.
The BBC repeated The Krotons in 1981 between seasons 18 and 19. It was my first experience of Troughton and I loved it.
It’s also worth mentioning that we were watching 20”ish tellys in those days…. And tv reception in Wales (well the bit I lived in, at least) was pretty poor well into the 80’s! ….. all of which helped to render the ropiest of visuals as terrifying and real (oh, plus we were all pre-Star Wars, too. Which helped)…..
Can’t believe you travelled to the planet from Mindwarp for this video.
I first watched The Krotons as part of 'The Five Faces Of Doctor Who' in 1981. I love Krotons. Especially in tomato soup.
Even if the realisation leaves something to be desired, i always thought the concept of the Krotons, or at least what was implied about them, was pretty neat. Creatures that exist in a liquid form and use energy derived from mental power to reconstitute themselves. What a cool sci-fi idea.
I love the Krotons - loads of Troughton and big creepy crystalline monsters (had never been tried before) with really disturbing voices. And that eeries doorway with monsters beyond it set-up. Should read Alien Bodies by Lawrence Miles - he totally rehabilitates the Krotons as terrifying and powerful creatures (one eats a Dalek through a feeding tube)...
Philip Madoc! He was in everything in the 1960’s. Hired for his Welsh growl!
Philip Madac (Eelek) also played Solon in Brain of Morbius - he was a real Who regular. The Krotons have South African accents.
Also in The Power of Kroll!
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The Robot voice sounds like a test run for the Daleks.
Totally agree it was weak and weird, but when I recently watched it on iPlayer I was really amused by the arguing married couple vibe the Krotons had. Especially when their heads were rotating really fast which I took to mean frustration.
Aw yeah, a new Chosen Chimp video
Your tone and thoughts are among my favorites in whotube
My major problem with “The Krotons” was that it felt like literally EVERYTHING was zoomed in WAY TOO CLOSE and I just couldn’t get a feel for what was going on…hard for me to feel menaced by some weird robot thing that only looks impressive because the camera’s filming right up its arse…😅😵💫
Claustrophobic doesn’t even begin to describe it…”The Krotons” is the only story that I honestly think would’ve been actually IMPROVED if it actually had the decency to be missing, at least then I could IMAGINE them as a well-conceived threat impressively shot with nice and wide ATMOSPHERIC viewing angles rather than having to accept the fully-intact hard truth that everything’s shot closer than Frazier Hines’ stock talking telesnap…😵💫😬😅
Aside from the bickering voices themselves which are nice in an ironically funny way, this one makes “The Dominators” watchable by comparison…😵💫
I love the mechanoids, and the mind robber
If the Krotons weren't masterminds... I guess that's to be expected. These weren't even necessarily scientists, just a couple of surviving midshipmen from a crew of four. Essentially a couple of redshirts.
Very relevant observations, there.
BTW, apropos of nothing, that's a _really_ good haircut you have as well, mate (nice wee fade) 👍
Can’t lie zoe is hot in this story though in that mini skirt
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The one sole small mercy of this entire mess…😵💫
Why do all the best Who writers have such naff first stories? Flippin’ ‘eck man…😵💫
“Subjugated nitwits” ❤
I, for one, welcome our Kroton overlords.
Frazer hines said that the krotons have got a heavy south African accent on
Ahhh good old UK Gold repeats. Recorded VHS were the best foret into discovering old Doctor Who.
Or the BBC VHS’s. As was how I had to watch Doctor Who in the 90s.
The Krotons is one of my favourite Doctor Who stories.
The Krotons sound like Dick Van Dyke got a hold of a ring modulator microphone.
The Krotons. One of my favourite Doctor Who series, I saw it the first time around, it was cold and wet, Man City and Man U were top of the table and Jimmy Greaves was scoring wonder goals in the snow!………It’s pointless overanalysing and being hypocritical of 60’s WHO, it was a product of its time and at that time I thought it was pretty scary!
I think they were associates of the Soup Dragon...although that may have been the Croutons.
Krotons? Aren't they nice cruncjy additions to soup?
Okay, how about the Ice Warriors, The Seeds of Death, The Curse of Peladon and The Monster of Peladon stories?
Never really understood the hate this serial gets. I guess because it's just average.. AND of course being the only complete Troughton 4-Parter available in 1981, was probably the only serial that most of us my age got to see from the 2nd Doctor. The received wisdom was that this was a bad representation of the era.. and that just kinda stuck. The era has a problem in that it really doesn't have too many absolute stinkers (The Space Pirates? The Dominators?), so a perfectly servicable serial like this gets kinda downvoted in Fandom.
Holmes would also rip off his own basic plot in The Mysterious Planet part of Trail of a Time Lord, with two candidates being sent to work for an alien Overlord...
I like it because it's a real Zoe showcase, I love the bants between her and the Doctor here. I like the weird electronic music (enough to buy the 10" LP of all the blips and blops), I like the way it eschewed Incidental Music, whether or not that was a success.
“I’m sure we can all be mature here” Not after saying that Chimp 😂
Are you High Brains? We require High Brains for our Dynatrope. We visited a country called the United States, but found few High Brains there. We must have High Brains!!!!!!!!
Weirdly, a few years after this episode, a new family moved to town, and the sons started at my school.
They were called the Krotons. Perhaps that's why they had to move 😊
'60s who had such good robots. It really felt like sci-fi then. And, strangely, the universe of '60s Who feels bigger, to me. I don't entirely know why.
I also have no idea where exactly they were
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I thought the krotons were souper
I dont mind the voices to be honest. I like the krotons in concept, and id like to see them in the new show one day.
Maybe perhaps someone could have the halfway decent sense to actually make a costume that looks good enough to shoot from a decent viewing angle instead of filming everything so up close and personal that you almost feel like if it farted you’d smell it through the telly…😵💫
Things you find swimming in your soup?
Right…I thought, “What a silly question.” Those little square crunchy things on salad.
Well there appeared to be some kind of soup involved, maybe they had gotten a little stale over the 1000s of years.
Watched this one with my partner and every time someone mentioned the krotons we'd say "ahh man, I hate the krotons" Made the whole affair a lot more fun
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Good with soup
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