@@ChrisCrossingWires1212 for a single seat bike is to much even 5k .....I understand that every company need to make money but overpricing won't bring more money
@@johnharris3235 3500 for a motorcycle? That would be a deal anywhere... unless you meant 35,000. but if that's the case there's no way most people are getting that.
Might be smart to wait, legit high hp, e-motorcycles are right around the corner. 70mph and 100 mile range on a good day is still pretty weak, unless its only $5000 or something which I doubt.
“This new super 73 is no toy, it goes [75mph]” 1:06 Wait what? That's certainly not safe on a highway if the top speed is capped at 75mph, and you can't exceed that even when needed to pass a vehicle or escape a dangerous situation.
The super73 requires a motorcycle license, registration/plates and insurance. $2000+ expense per year. The Segway moped can be driven on any street almost anywhere without license, registration/plates and insurance as long as you stay under 28 mph (or maybe it's 22mph) and the bike has pedals.
@@kezzaman One is a moped to putt around town and one is a motorcycle for serious street/highway use. PS. It's like watching an e bike video and commenting what was Schwinn thinking with a 18 speed bicycle?
@@gimpman1357 the Segway is something between a road vehicle and a toy. Both of those things are great but it is neither. It is to slow and the range is poor for it to be very useful road vehicle, and its to big and clunky to be a fun toy, so who is going to want one?
@@kezzaman It’s an ebike that looks like a scooter. Lots of people will want it if it is priced right. Let’s say $2000. If it’s available at Costco it will sell. Assuming you don’t need a license and pay for registration and insurance it will have a market that is 1000 times bigger than the motorcycle market. PS. I own 2 ebikes and 3 regular bikes but no motorcycle. Also have a car. The motorcycle market is very narrow and specific and EXPENSIVE and DANGEROUS.
Since you asked, yes you should get a motorcycle endorsement. Take the MSF BRC course, they provide bikes and gear, and you learn about bikes for 2-3 days. Then they give you a certificate for the M Endorsement. It is worth it and will get you cheaper insurance
Price bet ? Between 7-8K in my opinion. It looks dope. Let's see what the competitors bring on the table. Super 73 would have to adapt. That'd way they haven't announced any priced yet. Except " Affordable"
Yep, hopefully more competition in these things will drive prices down eventually. Truth is there really is not much there to justify the.cost apart from it's new.
Years pass by and electric bikes still are unable to compete and be a viable choice...either price reduction or better range, but at this point, they make little sense.
@@Miskatonic-University compared to a car these bikes are much smaller and far less materials in them and so price should be proportionally smaller but it isnt and until it is they wont really be viable. My answer for now at least is a cheap kit off Ebay and and an old bike converted .
Linear torque curve on a motorcycle sounds like a fun death trap. It's not that it's inherently dangerous but that people who want to go fast will be able to go fast, faster. They were wise to limit it to 70 mph.
This bike is built more for smaller interstate use like 55 to 65 MPH highways max . This bike is simply too slow with a top speed of 75 mph for use on large highways as most people will be traveling at +80mph.. and you will have no passing power. I can guarantee this bike will not be getting 100 miles or range maybe at 25 to 30 mph but with real world use it will probably get a 50 to 60 mile range which is not great it looks kinda cool though.
Winter of 2023. They have almost 2 years to figure all those HYPED numbers out. 75 mph, 100 mile range, 80% capacity in less than an hour. Meanwhile, their ebikes are notorious to have bad motors, cracking frames and oh btw, they’re yet to deliver on the PROMISED torque update, you know the one that actually works without bricking the motor. Not hating, just FACTS.
Electric Grom for...I'm gonna guess twice the price. Gonna be brutal to ride at anything close to its top speed anyway, but could definitely be fun for riding around town and backroads. My question is why do 4 to 8 year olds need trendy electric bikes? Feeling like a grandpa all the sudden and I'm not even 30
@@TK-gd9td If we are really shooting for sustainability 4-8 year olds should be riding regular bikes. If you want an E bike at a later age to make a commute work that's one thing, but at that age kids should be riding for fun and just pedaling around. The brand probably does want to get them hooked early though but to me it shouldn't be a goal.
@@Valorous1440 Perhaps Super73 for kids is going after the mini dirt-bike (CRF50, et.al) crowd. It could be seen as a choice to an ICE minibike, not a replacement for a bicycle. There are a lot of two, three and four year old kids ripping around on mini ICE dirt-bikes. The fact that I am having to refer to ICE when talking about motorcycles at all, is pretty mind-blowing to me, I am over 50.
Can’t ride it on the sidewalks or boardwalks. It would be ok if it did 90mph because When you go up a hill you top speed goes down and cars are not going to understand you loose 20 mph . what’s the range at 65 mph? The two best electric bikes are the Shelby vintage electric bike and the cab recon bikes .
I'm glad they didn't. Hub motors add way too much unsprung weight and they are terrible at dissipating heat. They're fine for bicycles but, too many disadvantages for a 75 MPH motorcycle.
I ordered one, but TBH it looks like a sondors rip-off. Not saying that's a bad thing, but we'll see what this really looks like and how it performs (and charges) next year. The fast charge speed strikes me as unlikely unless they're doing the multi-pack, "split" simultaneous charge. DC fast heat issues won't work with small/light packs.
Since it’s a street legal vehicle that is categorized as a motorcycle it’s going to be way too expensive compared to typical motor scooters and mini motorcycles like Honda groms and Navi that is priced under 2k before taxes.
Groms cost over $4k in most states out the door. This will compete with a Grom to some extent, but will likely line up in pricing with a Sondors e-motorcycle.
It's not a new category. This is a mini moto like Honda Grom and the Benelli Tnt125. It's just electric. Looks good, but it will cost couple of times more than the non - electric mini motos.
@@MrOscar5690 I'm unsure. They might get some kind of cool factor/ tesla effect. I think people want electric. If it is sub 5k, it still might feel "cheap" compared to a car... I'm very curious and hopeful for more electric vehicle adoption.
as long as its affordable it will sell, if not then no one will care other than someone who wants to be different like ppl who buy the harley electric bike. Too bad drivers in America are soo bad that chances are someone is gonna run into you before u yourself make a mistake as a rider...
Yall Know this thing as I will not call it a bike, although it looks nice will be way ove 10K as there new eBIKE is $4500. But they will sell them as people will buy them AND TRY TO RIDE THEM WITH NO TAGS AND ON BIKE TRAILS! REDICULOUS YOU SAY? SAME reason why surons and onyx dont belong there either!
What a waste. "hard core" motorcyclists are a dying breed. "Practical" is the future of two wheels. Where can I put TWO helmets? Where can I put my Big Gulp? Where can I put a grocery bag? How does a passenger ride with me? Where do I put my gloves/glasses/registration?
Hoping some day one of these jokers will make a 'normal' electric motorcycle that normal humans can afford instead of some flipped out 'sculpture' only millionaires (who can afford all the gas they want) can afford.
Idk about the never part. But the sound is part of the “safety” of a moto… if they won’t see us, at least they’ll hear us. Now they won’t hear us either lol I’ll stick to my kilt gas Honda moped
140 km is 87 miles. The CX1 is supposed to go over 100 miles on one charge. 120 kph is 75 mph. The CX1 can do the same speed (he showed the correction on screen). The key difference would be the price. The Ola might be cheaper than the CX1, but we don't know the price of the CX1 yet and the Ola is NOT sold here in the USA, at least not yet. If Ola sells their scooter here, it will more likely cost a lot more here than in Ola's home market.
@@bensondentalassociates8690 150 km range? Should be at least 300km if not 500 for people to buy… look up chinese motorcycles, better milage and surely much much lower prices. Should be adopted like ev’s. Tesla will never make motorcycles, Elon said 29 times more dangerous than cars, so we must go chinese 🤷🏻♂️ and look up Vanmoof ebike 👌
Wheels too small, 75mph bit on the low side , 100mile range ok ish but not great. Price needs to be low to make this viable imho. It's an urban runaround/ commuter defo not competition for zero or hardly, I'd like to see it priced at 3k or less but I bet it will be over 5k.
Dangerous motorcycle with no muffler nobody can hear you and you get smash eazy And the concept is really ugly and the range sucks better buy a normal motorcyle harley
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Finally a good looking bike that can move itself if the price is right this will be a game changer
you know the price is not gonna be right they want $4500 for this years reg ebike with no power expect this way over 10K
@@ChrisCrossingWires1212 for a single seat bike is to much even 5k .....I understand that every company need to make money but overpricing won't bring more money
@@ChrisCrossingWires1212 stop being poor.
Can’t wait to see this in real life!
I’m tryna figure out what’s amazing about it? It isn’t doing anything that hasn’t been done already by other electric bike companies.
Exactly… and the competition isn’t really selling.. the only edge it could have is the price and it wasn’t even announced
examples? sondors metacycle is the only that come to my mind
@@johnharris3235 I would guess way over that price
@@johnharris3235 3500 for a motorcycle? That would be a deal anywhere... unless you meant 35,000. but if that's the case there's no way most people are getting that.
It'll be $6-7k, my guess.
lets have smaller wheels said no one ever.
Probably still keep my clone Super73 for now. But that e-motorcycle is 🤩🤩🤩
Might be smart to wait, legit high hp, e-motorcycles are right around the corner. 70mph and 100 mile range on a good day is still pretty weak, unless its only $5000 or something which I doubt.
@@jackred2362 Good advice, I have a folding bike with 48V, 20A and 750W. I am limited on what fits in the frame for upgraded battery and controller.
“This new super 73 is no toy, it goes [75mph]” 1:06
Wait what? That's certainly not safe on a highway if the top speed is capped at 75mph, and you can't exceed that even when needed to pass a vehicle or escape a dangerous situation.
Fast enough for the slow lane 😝
makes me question what are segway thinking with that 30mph and 35mile range moped 🤔
The super73 requires a motorcycle license, registration/plates and insurance. $2000+ expense per year.
The Segway moped can be driven on any street almost anywhere without license, registration/plates and insurance as long as you stay under 28 mph (or maybe it's 22mph) and the bike has pedals.
@@gimpman1357 so
@@kezzaman One is a moped to putt around town and one is a motorcycle for serious street/highway use.
PS. It's like watching an e bike video and commenting what was Schwinn thinking with a 18 speed bicycle?
@@gimpman1357 the Segway is something between a road vehicle and a toy. Both of those things are great but it is neither. It is to slow and the range is poor for it to be very useful road vehicle, and its to big and clunky to be a fun toy, so who is going to want one?
@@kezzaman It’s an ebike that looks like a scooter. Lots of people will want it if it is priced right. Let’s say $2000. If it’s available at Costco it will sell.
Assuming you don’t need a license and pay for registration and insurance it will have a market that is 1000 times bigger than the motorcycle market.
PS. I own 2 ebikes and 3 regular bikes but no motorcycle. Also have a car. The motorcycle market is very narrow and specific and EXPENSIVE and DANGEROUS.
Beautiful bike. Now, where's the adventure sport?
They better offer an AKIRA kit on this thing 😤 ❤
Welcome all ye new moto friends!
Maybe put a 6 speed hub gear box on it so it has a better range?
Would be interesting to compare it to a Zero.
It's more similar to a Cake Kalk.
Dope thank’s for sharing 😎💯
Since you asked, yes you should get a motorcycle endorsement. Take the MSF BRC course, they provide bikes and gear, and you learn about bikes for 2-3 days. Then they give you a certificate for the M Endorsement. It is worth it and will get you cheaper insurance
This is what the market has been waiting for
Price bet ? Between 7-8K in my opinion. It looks dope. Let's see what the competitors bring on the table. Super 73 would have to adapt. That'd way they haven't announced any priced yet. Except " Affordable"
yeah right bro they want $4500 for his years ebike, this will be well over 10 f not 15
My guess is at least 9k
Probably 10k
it looks like a polaroid vhs case
I guess that sucks when you are 6’4 makes these things sadly unrealistic for me :(
Look good , thanks!!!❤
1st mod is to move the rear brake to the right foot.
Then a rear rack.
Then O.D. green.
….. i know we are all thinking about the bike from Akira
I’ll stick to my 2007 Honda CBR 600RR that I paid $3,000 for. 😉
Super 73 spokesperson sounds a lot like chaseontwowheels
This motorcycle looks like the cake electric motorcycle
Beautiful bike. Reminds me of the electric bike on the Oblivian movie. Need this! Also need it to go 180 mph. :)
Google Land MOTO, Its exactly the same bike!
Looks really cool
100 Mile range 75mph… they’ll charge us $10K watch. I can buy a legit bike for that price.
Yep, hopefully more competition in these things will drive prices down eventually.
Truth is there really is not much there to justify the.cost apart from it's new.
Years pass by and electric bikes still are unable to compete and be a viable choice...either price reduction or better range, but at this point, they make little sense.
@@Miskatonic-University compared to a car these bikes are much smaller and far less materials in them and so price should be proportionally smaller but it isnt and until it is they wont really be viable.
My answer for now at least is a cheap kit off Ebay and and an old bike converted .
I'm hearing 4500.
@@jackred2362 sounds good, let hope numbers and pricing are nice.
I was just wondering do you license to ride this or no need license?
Is it 2 person?
Linear torque curve on a motorcycle sounds like a fun death trap. It's not that it's inherently dangerous but that people who want to go fast will be able to go fast, faster. They were wise to limit it to 70 mph.
Where my soldier 73s at
Wow!
I really like motorcycle and the kids bikes
We ride stacyc and the ktm sx-e 5
If that motorcycle cost anywhere more than the standard gasoline motorcycles out there, which are already very efficient, it will fail
Definitely get a Class M
What you learn could save your life on any ride
Top speed of 70 mph?
100 mile range?
80% charge under an hour?
What’s the impressive part?
I hope it’s the price sub 3500?
Knowing s73 it will cost way more
Looking at 8k easy I’m guessing
This bike is built more for smaller interstate use like 55 to 65 MPH highways max . This bike is simply too slow with a top speed of 75 mph for use on large highways as most people will be traveling at +80mph.. and you will have no passing power. I can guarantee this bike will not be getting 100 miles or range maybe at 25 to 30 mph but with real world use it will probably get a 50 to 60 mile range which is not great it looks kinda cool though.
Is it Considered a moped. Would you need a motorcycle license
You need a moto license even if it is a moped ..
This is exactly what I need. Best looking emotorcyle I have seen.
Winter of 2023. They have almost 2 years to figure all those HYPED numbers out. 75 mph, 100 mile range, 80% capacity in less than an hour. Meanwhile, their ebikes are notorious to have bad motors, cracking frames and oh btw, they’re yet to deliver on the PROMISED torque update, you know the one that actually works without bricking the motor. Not hating, just FACTS.
Take my money.
*sur ron all day long here*
I see yalll !!!!! Come to me baby
Electric Grom for...I'm gonna guess twice the price. Gonna be brutal to ride at anything close to its top speed anyway, but could definitely be fun for riding around town and backroads. My question is why do 4 to 8 year olds need trendy electric bikes? Feeling like a grandpa all the sudden and I'm not even 30
To build brand loyalty in younger generations who will most likely be using EVs in general over ICE based vehicles
@@TK-gd9td If we are really shooting for sustainability 4-8 year olds should be riding regular bikes. If you want an E bike at a later age to make a commute work that's one thing, but at that age kids should be riding for fun and just pedaling around. The brand probably does want to get them hooked early though but to me it shouldn't be a goal.
@@Valorous1440 Perhaps Super73 for kids is going after the mini dirt-bike (CRF50, et.al) crowd. It could be seen as a choice to an ICE minibike, not a replacement for a bicycle. There are a lot of two, three and four year old kids ripping around on mini ICE dirt-bikes. The fact that I am having to refer to ICE when talking about motorcycles at all, is pretty mind-blowing to me, I am over 50.
Its gonna have to be 8 to 10k and I'm good with that.
Can’t ride it on the sidewalks or boardwalks. It would be ok if it did 90mph because When you go up a hill you top speed goes down and cars are not going to understand you loose 20 mph . what’s the range at 65 mph?
The two best electric bikes are the Shelby vintage electric bike and the cab recon bikes .
At least 20k
Why need a chain, and just use a hub motor, weird
very cool 👍👍
rear view mirrors?
Very nice.
It better not be priced at 30k
Yes m class 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Needs a rear foot brake though.
Wait so the tiny ebikes can't pedal that makes them not legal that's smart!
What's the price ?
Let's see if it beats the megacycle to market. Still waiting on confirmation mine will actually ship in July.
Get the license I really want to see that.
Ooo you said "street legal?"
Get your m license it will be worth it.
if only we didnt have to destroy the earth mining for cobalt for the battery.
Really should have placed the motor inside of the rear wheel. Probably more than cost prohibited.
I'm glad they didn't. Hub motors add way too much unsprung weight and they are terrible at dissipating heat. They're fine for bicycles but, too many disadvantages for a 75 MPH motorcycle.
How much?
👍
I ordered one, but TBH it looks like a sondors rip-off. Not saying that's a bad thing, but we'll see what this really looks like and how it performs (and charges) next year.
The fast charge speed strikes me as unlikely unless they're doing the multi-pack, "split" simultaneous charge. DC fast heat issues won't work with small/light packs.
That's the first thing I thought. It has a Sondors like feel.
Why the boxy body
Not going to lie kind of ugly, cool concept though.
E Grom 🤔
FIRST??? REALLY???
When they finally announce the price, that pathetic battery range is going to make the average potential buyer put their wallet away.
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that is the ugliest motorcycle i've ever seen
For that price, I’ll get a real used sport bike. NO THANK YOU. By the way, a used Honda Grom price, For the win.
Since it’s a street legal vehicle that is categorized as a motorcycle it’s going to be way too expensive compared to typical motor scooters and mini motorcycles like Honda groms and Navi that is priced under 2k before taxes.
Groms cost over $4k in most states out the door. This will compete with a Grom to some extent, but will likely line up in pricing with a Sondors e-motorcycle.
Hearing around 4500.
With that range it's a contender.
It's not a new category. This is a mini moto like Honda Grom and the Benelli Tnt125. It's just electric. Looks good, but it will cost couple of times more than the non - electric mini motos.
Yep. and that’s why it will flop. Honda dominates the mini moto segment and they just brought the Navi over oof.
@@MrOscar5690 I'm unsure. They might get some kind of cool factor/ tesla effect. I think people want electric. If it is sub 5k, it still might feel "cheap" compared to a car... I'm very curious and hopeful for more electric vehicle adoption.
@@noahrobinson9243 Honda Navi is 2k brand new and they have several bikes under 5k. I ride and being silent is not something moto riders want.
Wait, aren't all of super73s bike EVs?? Seems like they're late to the party 😳
Bike is not water cooled at all. Take this down the freeway and watch you burn out the motor or blow up the batter
120kmph is just to slow for a motorcycle
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Seriously people are going to buy these over a Triumph.
Totally different buyers…
Looks more like a dirt bike ...
as long as its affordable it will sell, if not then no one will care other than someone who wants to be different like ppl who buy the harley electric bike. Too bad drivers in America are soo bad that chances are someone is gonna run into you before u yourself make a mistake as a rider...
Yall Know this thing as I will not call it a bike, although it looks nice will be way ove 10K as there new eBIKE is $4500. But they will sell them as people will buy them AND TRY TO RIDE THEM WITH NO TAGS AND ON BIKE TRAILS! REDICULOUS YOU SAY? SAME reason why surons and onyx dont belong there either!
Watch it cost 8 Grand!!!!
C1X - too expensive
What a stupid thing to put small kids on motor vehicles, instead of using their own body power and abundant energy.
Will a class M endorsement be needed to operate it?
Yes
Yes…
What a waste. "hard core" motorcyclists are a dying breed. "Practical" is the future of two wheels. Where can I put TWO helmets? Where can I put my Big Gulp? Where can I put a grocery bag? How does a passenger ride with me? Where do I put my gloves/glasses/registration?
Hoping some day one of these jokers will make a 'normal' electric motorcycle that normal humans can afford instead of some
flipped out 'sculpture' only millionaires (who can afford all the gas they want) can afford.
Fk an m license. It's not a motorcycle. There's no clutch or anything else an M license requires. I'd ride with my standard.
I will never buy an electric motorcycle. The whole reason I ride is for the sensory experience.
Ok
I used to kill my FZR400 downhill on South Grade Road and coast down.
Tire wind and chain sounds but still picking up speed is a neat sensation.
Idk about the never part. But the sound is part of the “safety” of a moto… if they won’t see us, at least they’ll hear us. Now they won’t hear us either lol I’ll stick to my kilt gas Honda moped
@@jackred2362 Amen!
Super73 c1x electric motorcycle with 100 miles and 75 mile An hour... what a joke. Just buying regular motorcycle. 🤣
Lol Ola scooter goes faster than this at 120km per hour and can go 140Km in one charge.
140 km is 87 miles. The CX1 is supposed to go over 100 miles on one charge.
120 kph is 75 mph. The CX1 can do the same speed (he showed the correction on screen).
The key difference would be the price. The Ola might be cheaper than the CX1, but we don't know the price of the CX1 yet and the Ola is NOT sold here in the USA, at least not yet. If Ola sells their scooter here, it will more likely cost a lot more here than in Ola's home market.
real low range 👎 emotorcycles must improve - chinese are the best. best ebike is vanmoof.
How so?
@@bensondentalassociates8690 150 km range? Should be at least 300km if not 500 for people to buy… look up chinese motorcycles, better milage and surely much much lower prices. Should be adopted like ev’s. Tesla will never make motorcycles, Elon said 29 times more dangerous than cars, so we must go chinese 🤷🏻♂️ and look up Vanmoof ebike 👌
Isn’t it a Chinese company too
Wheels too small, 75mph bit on the low side , 100mile range ok ish but not great.
Price needs to be low to make this viable imho.
It's an urban runaround/ commuter defo not competition for zero or hardly, I'd like to see it priced at 3k or less but I bet it will be over 5k.
Booooooooooooooooo boooooooooooooooooooo!
That design and look is beyond FUBAR. Reall bad.
who cares about concept vehicles. might as well dream about things that might actually be attainable now. Waste of time.
Dangerous motorcycle with no muffler nobody can hear you and you get smash eazy And the concept is really ugly and the range sucks better buy a normal motorcyle harley
Super 73 is such a joke lol
This item is very stupid with only a range 100 miles and speed only at 75 what a total waist of time and money
@@octavius8562 yes i do i think i have seen better speed on Chinese motorbikes
@@illuminati_Bal you usually cant go over 30 miles without hitting traffic so it useless going pass 60 mph
@@orangecookie3132 this bike sucks is very dangerous no loud engine in a bike the trucks will smash u