So, historically, there were 3 European competitions. European Cup: where every champion of every European nation would compete (and *ONLY* the champions, the sole exception was if the title holders didn't qualify by winning the league) Cup Winners Cup: where every winner of a European national cup would participate (so for instance, if a team won the FA Cup or Copa del Rey, they would compete here) UEFA Cup: the competition featuring all Europe's best teams outside the league champions Then, in 1999, the Cup Winners Cup was abolished, and the UEFA Cup became the Europa League, qualifying both the "best outside the Champions League spots" teams and the national cup winners. This, however, meant that the preliminary stages were *massive* as you had hundreds of teams competing for a few spots in the group stage (wasn't an issue back in the day because the tournament was all knockout stages), so UEFA decided to cut down the number of teams by taking the "weakest" out of those and putting them into their own tournament. That's also why the Conference League is treated as a "Europa League 2", because the teams participating *would* have been Europa League teams if this split had not occurred
@@ninjalectualx Technically UEFA Cup was the 3rd tier since it was the only on that didn't feature teams who won something. Between 1995 and 2008, there was also the Intertoto Cup. What is it? Well, pick the teams that qualify to the Conference League now, and have them play in a tournament all Summer, awarding the winner with a Europa League spot. The 2001 final was glorious because it was Ronaldinho's PSG VS Baggio's Brescia. Imagine a Conference League final between two of the greatest players ever facing each other
@@meelooxavier6502 I miss Intertoto. I have always been a sucker for Summer football, with friendlies and tournaments, so I loved the idea that one of them wasn't just a mere occasion for football teams to compete, but would also award them with a spot in a European competition, so it mattered to some.
Hello from Greece! Been a fan since your Oriental Dragon epic FM save! Some interesting facts that could be mentioned in your video: • Olympiacos also this year for the first time with its youth team won the Youth League beating AC Milan 3-0 in the final • From the start of the season Olympiacos made an obscene number of transfers, changed three head coaches and three technical directors - the head coach in charge now has not made a single transfer of his choice! • The Greek Superleague this year had its best season ever, the champion was decided in the last match of the season - three turns before the end of the playoffs, four teams were in contention of the title! • Panathinaikos (the bitter rival of Olympiacos) has made an offer to Maurizio Sarri to be its head coach, mainly because of Olympiacos’ European success - Panathinaikos is the only Greek team that has reached the Champions League final in 1971 against Johan Cruyff's Ajax team • Olympiacos as a club in all sports has over 311 titles, leaving Barcelona in second!!
Big fan of yours from Greece here!It 's been a huge dream for us Olympiakos fans to win a European trophy and we finally did it!Thank you zealand for covering this 🎉❤
How did we come up with it? Well, when your sport is played by the whole world by thousands of clubs, rather than in one nation by 20 teams and there are no stakes because of a lack of promotion and relegation, we need to recognise who finished 7th.
As an Olympiacos fan (and a Zealandism believer and fan) i have to say that we lived historical moments! Our greatest moment actually (until the next one) and everyone was cheering and crying! The whole country was celebrating and especially Piraeus (port city of Athens and home of Olympiacos) was on fire even at 5-6am when the team arrived with the trophey at the Dimotiko Theatro! We are dominants in Greece despite the last two bad seasons with 47 champs and 28 cups but we always wanted to do something great in Europe! We were almost always playing Champions League or Europa league and we have won some of the greatest teams (Real M., Liverpool, Man Utd, Dortmund, Atletiko etc) but we have also suffered many very tough nights (In 1999 we were 5 minutes away from going to the semis of the CH L for example vs Juventus). Anyway, our guys made history (20 years after Greece wining the Euro) and became the first Greek club to win a European trophy and i am so happy and proud for them! PS: crazy coincidence is that this year Olympiacos also won the Uefa Youth League (U19 Champions League). Some potential wonderkids (or just value for money hot prospects) for next years' FM are: Charalampos Kostoulas (Striker), Papakanelos (winger), Mousakitis (DM) and Koutsidis (CB)
The answer for you Q at 2:35 is that before the Champions League era there was two european competition existed: The League winners Euro Cup and the Cup winners Europe Cup. That means (in most of the cases) that only 2 clubs can represent each nation in the european stage. In the new format stronger leagues getting more places while the smaller nations still sending their 2 teams only. Next to the fact that there are more places overall, the smaller nations will have way less chance to send a club to the highest of level of the competition. There comes the need for the third one
The real joy of this final was the VAR goal check. It seemed like El-Kaabi was offside when he received his pass, but the passer clearly wouldn't have seen it and the refs didn't want to steal an earned victory on such a technicality.
When el kaabi scored in 116th min, i started to cry when the final whistle was blown. i cried even more. When the celebration started it was crazy cars honking, people shouting and singing, fireworks,olympiakos flags on cars and motorcycles. The dream is complete, but now we have to dream bigger now
Europa league is a renaming of the uefa cup, which was a renaming of the inter cities fair cup. Which used to be the equivalent of the conference league because the cup winners cup was more important. In short Europe has always had several layers of continental cups. Made more sense when only one club per country went to each one
Great video Z. First of all it was PAOK who was playing in the conference league and lost in the quarterfinals from Club Brugge, not Panathinaikos. Secondly i am a PAOK fan but Olimpiakos is one of the biggest clubs in Europe when it comes to team sports in general. They have European trophies in football, basketball, water polo(both women and men) and volleyball, around 300 major trophies. They can only compare to Real Madrid, Barcelona and CSSK Moscow when we talk about team sports and not just football. Finally it was not Greece's first European trophy because Olimpiakos youth team won the youth champions league one month before the conference final plus we also won a Euro in 2004. All around a good year for Greece because the equivalent champions league in basketball (named Euroleague) won by Panathinaikos (against real madrid in the final).
@@huncho4847 ? I wasn't rating them, I was describing the 'size' of the club, and using transfer fees is pretty standard here in the UK to describe the size of the club. They're a big club in Greece, the same way Rangers are a big club in Scotland I suppose.
@@sigzil1985 I mean Olympiacos does have more trophies than any European team outside Ireland and Scotland and are one of the 4 teams globally that has been the continental champion in multiple sports,so out of the teams that are big in mid sized leagues (turkey,greece,switzerland, Scotland,belgium,Ukraine etc) olympiacos is one of the bigger ones i would argue.
Back in the day the Champions League was only teams that won their league. So basically only seed 1 of the current UCL. And the UEFA Cup was closer to what we consider modern Champions League
Inter-Cities Fairs Cup became the UEFA CUP which merged with the Cup Winners' Cup and later the Intertoto Cup to become the Europa League i.e. 'more matches more money more good, right?'
The "second level" tournament came first! The original "Inter-cities Fairs Cup" (which became the UEFA Cup/Europa League) started in June 1955 - BEFORE the first European Cup kicked off.
It started with the champions from each competition in the europa cup 1 and the cup winners of each country in the europa cup 2. It evolved into this over the past 35 years.
After the win I went out, in a city that's a few km away from Piraeus, where these scenes happened, and it was crazy. First of all everyone you could see outside wore some sort of scarf or Olympiacos shirt. For those not from around this part of the world, wearing anything remotely relevant to a club gets you killed, literally. Furthermore cars were honking like crazy, driving around squares. Passing by them you'd get people aggressively singing Olympiacos chants at you from inside the cars. Some were even playing the club's anthem very loudly. Motorcycles were the same. Random people around you would look at you and start a chant, expecting you to continue it. When the goal happened, the power went out and the internet died in a wide range of blocks around. And it was all at about 1am, the local time when the final ended. When I went back to my house, I could see from my balcony pyro shows and fireworks going off from many kilometers away. Up to the time I went to sleep at around 7 am it was still going, because let's be real, after a night like this you don't simply go to sleep nornally. It was pure magic. Best night of my life. "Yeah it's just the conference league" but many fans including myself thought we'd never see us lift a european trophy in our lifetimes. But here we are. Winners of the UEFA Youth League and UEFA Conference League in the same season. We believed we could do it and it very well happened. I still can't process that it's real
EL and ECL make sense - with certain restrictions. Finding out which club is the best without pumping 100s of millions of currency from shady sources in can be interesting. Of course this would only make sense if those massively spending nations didn't have spots in the "lower tiers" (or could drop down tiers after the group stage - at least that part got patched), otherwise you need a miracle from Olympiakos or every ECL/EL winner comes from the big 4.
As a Maccabi Tel Aviv fan, it was a painful match but props to Olympiacos for winning the Conference league and making the loss a bit less embarrassing
The competitions of course come from wanting spotlight and money but also the origin was "The Champions Cup" and the "Cup Winners Cup" so there was a reason for two to exist. But earlier there were things like a "Convention City Cup" about highlighting cities with conventions. The first one, the Mitropa Cup was about the best team in central europe tho. So it started with the intention of finding the best.
Europa League descends from the Cup Winners Cup which was the winner of each leagues Domestic Cup Winner back in the days when only the team that won the League got into the European Cup (later renamed to the Champions League). Cup Winners Cup became the UEFA Cup and then eventually changed its name to the Europa League as both of them got expanded
The conference league final wasn't boring, the fight and grit show was amazing and the way the teams fought was inspirering. Also really fun to see a more physical game
There used to be a Cup Winners Cup and Inter Toto cup, which while not strictly the precursors to the current competitions, did provide teams that weren't the 'Champions' with the chance to play in Europe.
There used to be a competition where all the european champions played against each other. this is what became the champions league. there also used to be the cup winners cup where all the cup winners played each other. this is what then turned into the uefa cup and europa league
ΑΕΚΑΡΑΑΑΑΑΑΑ ΓΕΡΑΑΑΑΑ.. ΚΑΙ ΠΡΩΤΑΘΛΗΜΑ ΘΑ ΠΑΡΟΥΜΕ ΞΑΝΑΑΑΑΑΑ!! Greetings from Greece and from an AEK Athens fan. Well done to Olympiacos! I'm hoping for our league to grow stronger in the following years. Love your videos Zealand.
Before the Champions and Europa League there was the European and European Cup winners cup , where champions from European leagues and cup winners played in.But what happened when a team won the double in their country and subsequently qualified for both?The second team of their league qualified for the European Cup winners cup.So that was the start of the idea of a "secone-tier" european cup competition.
2:52 I believe before, we’re talking like the 1950s when it was started, there was one competition for all the cup winners from Europe and one for all the league winners and only if you won your cup or league you participate in the Competition which also was called something like Cup of the Cup Winners but then they changed it over the years adding more teams and of course there was the big overhaul in 1993 I believe when Marseille won and only then it was actually named champions league and now we have this
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The second european competion was firstly created for the domestic cup winners.
Villa fan - we weren't at our best in the semi finals but Olympiakos were something else. I'm obviously gutted we lost, but they absolutely deserved it and earned it, they're a huge team. Ayoub El-Kaabi is a name that will terrify Villans for a long time.
Champions League: Was originally exclusive to CHAMPIONS of domestic leagues Europa League/UEFA Cup: Originally the tournament where clubs who didn’t win their league would go into, (2nd, 3rd placed teams) Conference League: Smaller domestic leagues couldn’t keep up with the bigger clubs in Champions/Europa, hence why it was created to give smaller leagues something to play for (more revenue because their likely to make it farther)
The europa league (uefa cup) replaced the Cup Winners Cup in European football. This was a competition between the winners of knockout cup competitions across europe. Thats the genesis :) *Edit: typo
The reason the other competitions exist now is money. The answer is always money. More matches to sell ads, tickets, concessions, TV contracts, merchandise, and everything else that goes along with it
What is now the Champions League originated as a competition purely for national league champions (ironically, it was called the European Cup rather than the Champions League at the time). Likewise, there used to be a competition for national cup winners, aptly named the Cup Winners Cup. This competition would merge with some other European competitions and evolve into what is now called the Europa League. The Conference League is the result of a recent rejig of the European competitions meant to provide more opportunity for clubs not from the traditional top 4 countries to make a deep run in Europe. With clubs like Basel, Marseille, AZ and Club Brugge making the semis, Feyenoord reaching the final and Olympiakos even winning the competition, it seems to be a success.
I might be misremembering some details, but I think The Athletic did an interview with the head of the Polish first division a couple years ago about why the Conference League was created, and he, in addition to being the head of the Polish league, was also the head of an organization of FAs in countries that are outside the top 10 or so leagues. This was the organization that led the push for the Conference League, and they did so in order to raise the level of the game in those countries. The rationale being first of all, the prize and tv money of the Conference League would be significant for teams from those leagues, and second, it’s a chance to show off players, who might then earn contextually big money moves to bigger leagues.
Europa League existed firstly as the UEFA Cup because the number of clubs that classified for the Champions League back in the day was really small, literally only the champions of each country, so to not make big clubs from countries with multiple competing clubs miss out on playing for a big trophy they made the UEFA Cup, it was later then rebranded as the Europa League as the Champions League grew and started existing to open space for more teams and teams from lower leagues
I knew there was a reason I picked Olympiacos for my first FM save, truly a historic game even if it wasn't the prettiest. El Kabbi deserves his flowers for a hat trick and a brace against Villa, it's fitting that he scored the winning goal.
I like the 2 lesser Europa leagues because it gives a bit more bite to the mid table in their respective leagues. Otherwise if you didn’t finish top 4 then it really doesn’t matter how you did in the league. If you’re a club finishing around 5-7 then you still have something to play for and if you’re a small club it can help generate more fandom and definitely more revenue
Z you need to do a video on the development of European competitions because the evolution of the Europa League from the Fairs Cup is really interesting. The old UEFA Cup actually used to be more difficult to win than the European Cup
I’ve had an AMAZING idea! A new European competition called the Europa Losers League: only clubs relegated that year can take part. Gives those teams something to look forward to!!!
I'm pretty sure the europa league, formally the uefa cup. Was also called the cup winners cup in the past. It was originally meant for teams who won their main domestic cup. (I think)
The Europa league was originally the Uefa Cup. That was were all the domestic Cup winners in Europe played, just like the domestic league winners played the Champions League. How the Conference league came about, I have no idea.
This is actually the *third* time a competition for those teams happened. Mitropa Cup was a post-war version of a tournament held between a few nations in Europe in the '30s, and the Intertoto Cup was a Summer competition that awarded its winners with a UEFA Cup spot. So technically a Conference League-like tournament has always been a thing
UEFA league was the Cup Winners Cup, so it's genesis was all the national cup winners. And then teams wanted more money (and more games means more expenses) or silverware.
Europa league was originally the cup winners cup, so if the winner of say the DFB Pokal was different from the Bundesliga they play there, if not it's the club that came second. (Champions League/European Cup used to be only for league winners).
I can totally see teams doing well in Conference league and not in home league. For my club Slovan Bratislava the A team plays whatever europe cup in the middle of the week and the rest of the matches are played by the squad depths be it league or national cup, sometimes they sub in the stars just to force a win or tie. In our league, the money/skill gap for Slovan is favorable enough to give us a chance to win league with depth players despite doing the largest amount of matches in europe playing champions league qualifiers > europa league qualifiers > conference league qualifiers or group stage directly in better case + elimination while doing home cup and league in addition sprinkle in national calls for the best players
Well - back in the day, when the "Champions League" was just the European Cup, you ONLY had the league champions of each nation competing... plus, the previous year's European Cup winner defending thr trophy, if they had not also won their domestic league. You also had the Cup-Winners Cup for teams that won their domestic cup (or the runner up, if that team was in the European Cup), and the UEFA Cup which was for the "best of the rest". The Uefa Cup, in those days, was considered the hardest to win in some ways, because the top leagues had multiple representatives, unlike the others in which only one (or, occasionally two) teams from each country could enter. The Cup-Winners Cup was eventually scrapped, as it was officially the second of the three in importance, but was often the weakest in terms of the contestants, as teams from lower divisions sometimes won cup competitions. The UEFA cup eventually morphed into the Europa League, and became the Champions League's baby cousin... As for the creation of the Conference League - that, I suspect, was because so many of the "lesser" nations were fed up of being crowded out of the other two tournaments...
Conference league used to be European cup winners cup where Europe's Major cup winners would compete against each other. Champions league used to be only league champions in it. So the UEFA cup was actually the strongest competition as it was usually the 2nd and 3rd placed teams of the leagues. So UEFA see where the money was and abracadabra we have the Champions League format. Till next season anyway.
Champions League was created for the Champions of every league, but expanded as football has grown alot Europa League used to be Uefa Cup and was for the domestic cupwinners of every league
I'm pretty sure somebody already explained how the champions league evolved from Europa Cup(the Portuguese name was Taça das Taças the cup of cups the best of the best cup winners) and the europa league from the UEFA CUP that was for the leagues and the was a independent league for lower clubs called the Intertoto that was a bit of a mixed bag of teams like the conference league.
Why these tournaments exists? Because of what you are talking about. To have these great moments where just because a team is from a 'bigger' league, does not guarantee they are gonna win everything.
The champions league used to be with only the champions of the countries. The Europa league used to be the UEFA cup, with the 2nd to 5th of each league. Then there was Cup of the winners Cup with the winner of each countries FA Cup.
the europa league used to be the cup of the cupwinners. so it was still not so easy to get in. nowadays there are like 5 premier league teams in the champions league, they just realized they make much more money, when there are more games and competitions.
You know its wild when the video title is just, "Football".
Well to paraphrase the great Workthespace, they did indeed do a football.
@@thelastgreataudit8112That's serious paraphrasing as Lollujo is the one who says it. Lol
Came here to say this
I mean, he IS talking about Football
PAOK was the team that went deep into the Conference league this year, not Panathinaikos
Yup you really are evolving into Football penguinz0
His voice isnt quite deadpan enough
@@sheikhrobbie466 😂also the hair is missing
@@solice6475 but the stache is oh so luscious
My thoughts exactly.
@@solice6475 to be fair, the perfect penguinz0 of football would be bald, it's only fitting for the sport.
So, historically, there were 3 European competitions.
European Cup: where every champion of every European nation would compete (and *ONLY* the champions, the sole exception was if the title holders didn't qualify by winning the league)
Cup Winners Cup: where every winner of a European national cup would participate (so for instance, if a team won the FA Cup or Copa del Rey, they would compete here)
UEFA Cup: the competition featuring all Europe's best teams outside the league champions
Then, in 1999, the Cup Winners Cup was abolished, and the UEFA Cup became the Europa League, qualifying both the "best outside the Champions League spots" teams and the national cup winners.
This, however, meant that the preliminary stages were *massive* as you had hundreds of teams competing for a few spots in the group stage (wasn't an issue back in the day because the tournament was all knockout stages), so UEFA decided to cut down the number of teams by taking the "weakest" out of those and putting them into their own tournament.
That's also why the Conference League is treated as a "Europa League 2", because the teams participating *would* have been Europa League teams if this split had not occurred
The old 3-tier comp seems interesting and also logical
@@ninjalectualx Technically UEFA Cup was the 3rd tier since it was the only on that didn't feature teams who won something. Between 1995 and 2008, there was also the Intertoto Cup. What is it? Well, pick the teams that qualify to the Conference League now, and have them play in a tournament all Summer, awarding the winner with a Europa League spot.
The 2001 final was glorious because it was Ronaldinho's PSG VS Baggio's Brescia. Imagine a Conference League final between two of the greatest players ever facing each other
Came here to say about Intertoto, but @nidellaneum beat me to it. GGs
@@meelooxavier6502 I miss Intertoto. I have always been a sucker for Summer football, with friendlies and tournaments, so I loved the idea that one of them wasn't just a mere occasion for football teams to compete, but would also award them with a spot in a European competition, so it mattered to some.
Yes thank you somebody else said it, I knew it had its origins in the Cup Winners Cup I just needed somebody else to say it
THERE’S the Olympiacos video! Been waiting for Zealand to wax poetic about it.
Hello from Greece! Been a fan since your Oriental Dragon epic FM save!
Some interesting facts that could be mentioned in your video:
• Olympiacos also this year for the first time with its youth team won the Youth League beating AC Milan 3-0 in the final
• From the start of the season Olympiacos made an obscene number of transfers, changed three head coaches and three technical directors - the head coach in charge now has not made a single transfer of his choice!
• The Greek Superleague this year had its best season ever, the champion was decided in the last match of the season - three turns before the end of the playoffs, four teams were in contention of the title!
• Panathinaikos (the bitter rival of Olympiacos) has made an offer to Maurizio Sarri to be its head coach, mainly because of Olympiacos’ European success - Panathinaikos is the only Greek team that has reached the Champions League final in 1971 against Johan Cruyff's Ajax team
• Olympiacos as a club in all sports has over 311 titles, leaving Barcelona in second!!
Big fan of yours from Greece here!It 's been a huge dream for us Olympiakos fans to win a European trophy and we finally did it!Thank you zealand for covering this 🎉❤
How did we come up with it? Well, when your sport is played by the whole world by thousands of clubs, rather than in one nation by 20 teams and there are no stakes because of a lack of promotion and relegation, we need to recognise who finished 7th.
Those crowd reactions fill my sports fan heart full of joy. Everyone should experience something like that at least once in their lifetime.
As an Olympiacos fan (and a Zealandism believer and fan) i have to say that we lived historical moments! Our greatest moment actually (until the next one) and everyone was cheering and crying! The whole country was celebrating and especially Piraeus (port city of Athens and home of Olympiacos) was on fire even at 5-6am when the team arrived with the trophey at the Dimotiko Theatro! We are dominants in Greece despite the last two bad seasons with 47 champs and 28 cups but we always wanted to do something great in Europe! We were almost always playing Champions League or Europa league and we have won some of the greatest teams (Real M., Liverpool, Man Utd, Dortmund, Atletiko etc) but we have also suffered many very tough nights (In 1999 we were 5 minutes away from going to the semis of the CH L for example vs Juventus).
Anyway, our guys made history (20 years after Greece wining the Euro) and became the first Greek club to win a European trophy and i am so happy and proud for them!
PS: crazy coincidence is that this year Olympiacos also won the Uefa Youth League (U19 Champions League). Some potential wonderkids (or just value for money hot prospects) for next years' FM are: Charalampos Kostoulas (Striker), Papakanelos (winger), Mousakitis (DM) and Koutsidis (CB)
The answer for you Q at 2:35 is that before the Champions League era there was two european competition existed: The League winners Euro Cup and the Cup winners Europe Cup. That means (in most of the cases) that only 2 clubs can represent each nation in the european stage. In the new format stronger leagues getting more places while the smaller nations still sending their 2 teams only. Next to the fact that there are more places overall, the smaller nations will have way less chance to send a club to the highest of level of the competition. There comes the need for the third one
The real joy of this final was the VAR goal check. It seemed like El-Kaabi was offside when he received his pass, but the passer clearly wouldn't have seen it and the refs didn't want to steal an earned victory on such a technicality.
Btw it was Paok(the champions) and not Panathinaikos that reached Conference league quarter finals @Zealandism
When el kaabi scored in 116th min, i started to cry when the final whistle was blown. i cried even more. When the celebration started it was crazy cars honking, people shouting and singing, fireworks,olympiakos flags on cars and motorcycles.
The dream is complete, but now we have to dream bigger now
Europa league is a renaming of the uefa cup, which was a renaming of the inter cities fair cup. Which used to be the equivalent of the conference league because the cup winners cup was more important. In short Europe has always had several layers of continental cups. Made more sense when only one club per country went to each one
Great video Z. First of all it was PAOK who was playing in the conference league and lost in the quarterfinals from Club Brugge, not Panathinaikos. Secondly i am a PAOK fan but Olimpiakos is one of the biggest clubs in Europe when it comes to team sports in general. They have European trophies in football, basketball, water polo(both women and men) and volleyball, around 300 major trophies. They can only compare to Real Madrid, Barcelona and CSSK Moscow when we talk about team sports and not just football. Finally it was not Greece's first European trophy because Olimpiakos youth team won the youth champions league one month before the conference final plus we also won a Euro in 2004. All around a good year for Greece because the equivalent champions league in basketball (named Euroleague) won by Panathinaikos (against real madrid in the final).
As an olympiacos fan,perfectly said
May greek teans do as well next season as they did this season
Olimpiakos one of the biggest in europe? 😅
In basketball, yes 😃
@@megaplexXxHD I am not talking only about football
@@megaplexXxHD sports in general, Olympiacos has won a European championship in many different ones....not many teams in Europe who can say that
he’s talking about Olympiakos as if they’re a 4th division Malaysian team or something, they’re a big club…
They've never spent more than 13.5m Euros on a player!
Rating clubs by their transfer fees is so American
@@huncho4847 ? I wasn't rating them, I was describing the 'size' of the club, and using transfer fees is pretty standard here in the UK to describe the size of the club.
They're a big club in Greece, the same way Rangers are a big club in Scotland I suppose.
@@sigzil1985 I mean Olympiacos does have more trophies than any European team outside Ireland and Scotland and are one of the 4 teams globally that has been the continental champion in multiple sports,so out of the teams that are big in mid sized leagues (turkey,greece,switzerland, Scotland,belgium,Ukraine etc) olympiacos is one of the bigger ones i would argue.
Not in europe buddy
Back in the day the Champions League was only teams that won their league. So basically only seed 1 of the current UCL. And the UEFA Cup was closer to what we consider modern Champions League
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This is the perfect example of why the Conference League is a good competition.
UEFA Guy #1:We need more money?
UEFA guy #2: more games?
Yeah but that's the answer to *anything* in football, you need to add something else
@NIDELLANEUM corruption?
@@kieronparr3403 that is better
Inter-Cities Fairs Cup became the UEFA CUP which merged with the Cup Winners' Cup and later the Intertoto Cup to become the Europa League i.e. 'more matches more money more good, right?'
The "second level" tournament came first! The original "Inter-cities Fairs Cup" (which became the UEFA Cup/Europa League) started in June 1955 - BEFORE the first European Cup kicked off.
It started with the champions from each competition in the europa cup 1 and the cup winners of each country in the europa cup 2. It evolved into this over the past 35 years.
The frog is judging you.
Who cares. Idiot frog can't even decide whether to live on land or in water
After the win I went out, in a city that's a few km away from Piraeus, where these scenes happened, and it was crazy. First of all everyone you could see outside wore some sort of scarf or Olympiacos shirt. For those not from around this part of the world, wearing anything remotely relevant to a club gets you killed, literally. Furthermore cars were honking like crazy, driving around squares. Passing by them you'd get people aggressively singing Olympiacos chants at you from inside the cars. Some were even playing the club's anthem very loudly. Motorcycles were the same. Random people around you would look at you and start a chant, expecting you to continue it. When the goal happened, the power went out and the internet died in a wide range of blocks around. And it was all at about 1am, the local time when the final ended. When I went back to my house, I could see from my balcony pyro shows and fireworks going off from many kilometers away. Up to the time I went to sleep at around 7 am it was still going, because let's be real, after a night like this you don't simply go to sleep nornally. It was pure magic. Best night of my life. "Yeah it's just the conference league" but many fans including myself thought we'd never see us lift a european trophy in our lifetimes. But here we are. Winners of the UEFA Youth League and UEFA Conference League in the same season. We believed we could do it and it very well happened. I still can't process that it's real
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EL and ECL make sense - with certain restrictions. Finding out which club is the best without pumping 100s of millions of currency from shady sources in can be interesting. Of course this would only make sense if those massively spending nations didn't have spots in the "lower tiers" (or could drop down tiers after the group stage - at least that part got patched), otherwise you need a miracle from Olympiakos or every ECL/EL winner comes from the big 4.
As a Maccabi Tel Aviv fan, it was a painful match but props to Olympiacos for winning the Conference league and making the loss a bit less embarrassing
The competitions of course come from wanting spotlight and money but also the origin was "The Champions Cup" and the "Cup Winners Cup" so there was a reason for two to exist. But earlier there were things like a "Convention City Cup" about highlighting cities with conventions.
The first one, the Mitropa Cup was about the best team in central europe tho. So it started with the intention of finding the best.
Europa League descends from the Cup Winners Cup which was the winner of each leagues Domestic Cup Winner back in the days when only the team that won the League got into the European Cup (later renamed to the Champions League). Cup Winners Cup became the UEFA Cup and then eventually changed its name to the Europa League as both of them got expanded
14:35 channeling his inner American couldn’t escape with his Geography knowledge there. 😂.
The conference league final wasn't boring, the fight and grit show was amazing and the way the teams fought was inspirering. Also really fun to see a more physical game
There used to be a Cup Winners Cup and Inter Toto cup, which while not strictly the precursors to the current competitions, did provide teams that weren't the 'Champions' with the chance to play in Europe.
Finally Zealand talks about us! Thank you for Greece! OLYMPIAKOS!
There used to be a competition where all the european champions played against each other. this is what became the champions league. there also used to be the cup winners cup where all the cup winners played each other. this is what then turned into the uefa cup and europa league
The Europa League is a modified version of the Cup Winners’ Cup, where domestic cup winners would play each other
Nothing will come close to the glory that was the Cup Winners Cup. Needs to be brought back.
THANK YOU. I think about this every day. It's basically the champions league, the losers league, and the.. "meh, you did aight.."
Piräus is the harbor district of Athens, you probably were able to hear the roars from the stadium to that square and vice versa^^
The Europa league is a follow on from the old cup winners cup. Which involved european leagues cup winners
ΑΕΚΑΡΑΑΑΑΑΑΑ ΓΕΡΑΑΑΑΑ.. ΚΑΙ ΠΡΩΤΑΘΛΗΜΑ ΘΑ ΠΑΡΟΥΜΕ ΞΑΝΑΑΑΑΑΑ!! Greetings from Greece and from an AEK Athens fan. Well done to Olympiacos! I'm hoping for our league to grow stronger in the following years. Love your videos Zealand.
Before the Champions and Europa League there was the European and European Cup winners cup , where champions from European leagues and cup winners played in.But what happened when a team won the double in their country and subsequently qualified for both?The second team of their league qualified for the European Cup winners cup.So that was the start of the idea of a "secone-tier" european cup competition.
I see the Conference League and Europa as whos country has the stronger league in depth. It just boosts your country's league reputation
It would be fascinating to see a European competition for the teams that get promoted to the top leagues so Ipswich will get to play st Pauli
This intro was especially insane
2:52 I believe before, we’re talking like the 1950s when it was started, there was one competition for all the cup winners from Europe and one for all the league winners and only if you won your cup or league you participate in the Competition which also was called something like Cup of the Cup Winners but then they changed it over the years adding more teams and of course there was the big overhaul in 1993 I believe when Marseille won and only then it was actually named champions league and now we have this
The second european competion was firstly created for the domestic cup winners.
Villa fan - we weren't at our best in the semi finals but Olympiakos were something else. I'm obviously gutted we lost, but they absolutely deserved it and earned it, they're a huge team. Ayoub El-Kaabi is a name that will terrify Villans for a long time.
Champions League: Was originally exclusive to CHAMPIONS of domestic leagues
Europa League/UEFA Cup: Originally the tournament where clubs who didn’t win their league would go into, (2nd, 3rd placed teams)
Conference League: Smaller domestic leagues couldn’t keep up with the bigger clubs in Champions/Europa, hence why it was created to give smaller leagues something to play for (more revenue because their likely to make it farther)
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I'm not a big moustache guy, but I can safely say that it works for Zealand and I dig it
Great thing about Olympiacos side is that this was a team greater than the sum of its parts.
The europa league (uefa cup) replaced the Cup Winners Cup in European football. This was a competition between the winners of knockout cup competitions across europe. Thats the genesis :)
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I watch more of this channel than the main channel lol
The reason the other competitions exist now is money. The answer is always money. More matches to sell ads, tickets, concessions, TV contracts, merchandise, and everything else that goes along with it
FYI: Olympiacos is from Piraeus, a town just on the other side of the Acropolis (from Athens), which used to be the historical port of Athens
What is now the Champions League originated as a competition purely for national league champions (ironically, it was called the European Cup rather than the Champions League at the time). Likewise, there used to be a competition for national cup winners, aptly named the Cup Winners Cup. This competition would merge with some other European competitions and evolve into what is now called the Europa League. The Conference League is the result of a recent rejig of the European competitions meant to provide more opportunity for clubs not from the traditional top 4 countries to make a deep run in Europe. With clubs like Basel, Marseille, AZ and Club Brugge making the semis, Feyenoord reaching the final and Olympiakos even winning the competition, it seems to be a success.
I might be misremembering some details, but I think The Athletic did an interview with the head of the Polish first division a couple years ago about why the Conference League was created, and he, in addition to being the head of the Polish league, was also the head of an organization of FAs in countries that are outside the top 10 or so leagues. This was the organization that led the push for the Conference League, and they did so in order to raise the level of the game in those countries. The rationale being first of all, the prize and tv money of the Conference League would be significant for teams from those leagues, and second, it’s a chance to show off players, who might then earn contextually big money moves to bigger leagues.
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It's a bit like Rugby 7s. You got the cup, the plate and the shield.
Europa League existed firstly as the UEFA Cup because the number of clubs that classified for the Champions League back in the day was really small, literally only the champions of each country, so to not make big clubs from countries with multiple competing clubs miss out on playing for a big trophy they made the UEFA Cup, it was later then rebranded as the Europa League as the Champions League grew and started existing to open space for more teams and teams from lower leagues
I knew there was a reason I picked Olympiacos for my first FM save, truly a historic game even if it wasn't the prettiest. El Kabbi deserves his flowers for a hat trick and a brace against Villa, it's fitting that he scored the winning goal.
I demand a return of the lights!
Take a break Zealand that desk can wait
I like the 2 lesser Europa leagues because it gives a bit more bite to the mid table in their respective leagues. Otherwise if you didn’t finish top 4 then it really doesn’t matter how you did in the league. If you’re a club finishing around 5-7 then you still have something to play for and if you’re a small club it can help generate more fandom and definitely more revenue
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Z you need to do a video on the development of European competitions because the evolution of the Europa League from the Fairs Cup is really interesting. The old UEFA Cup actually used to be more difficult to win than the European Cup
I’ve had an AMAZING idea! A new European competition called the Europa Losers League: only clubs relegated that year can take part. Gives those teams something to look forward to!!!
I'm pretty sure the europa league, formally the uefa cup. Was also called the cup winners cup in the past. It was originally meant for teams who won their main domestic cup. (I think)
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The Europa league was originally the Uefa Cup. That was were all the domestic Cup winners in Europe played, just like the domestic league winners played the Champions League. How the Conference league came about, I have no idea.
This is actually the *third* time a competition for those teams happened. Mitropa Cup was a post-war version of a tournament held between a few nations in Europe in the '30s, and the Intertoto Cup was a Summer competition that awarded its winners with a UEFA Cup spot. So technically a Conference League-like tournament has always been a thing
There also used to be the Inter Toto cup, which was for teams that didn't win their cup or league but wanted to play in Europe.
@@cass2239 Totally forgot the Inter Toto Cup. It was so low tier they never showed it on TV unlike the Uefa Cup or Champions League.
@@cass2239 Yeah, a beautiful Summer tournament. I bet Conference League would be loved more if it was made it into an Intertoto Cup
“You won but what did you won?”- Zealand
UEFA league was the Cup Winners Cup, so it's genesis was all the national cup winners. And then teams wanted more money (and more games means more expenses) or silverware.
This proves that the conference league is really cool
A second World Cup at the same time as the normal WC for all the teams that didn't qualify is actually a great idea
When they're done enlarging the world cup there'll be no teams left for that.
Not really.
Europa league was originally the cup winners cup, so if the winner of say the DFB Pokal was different from the Bundesliga they play there, if not it's the club that came second. (Champions League/European Cup used to be only for league winners).
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I can totally see teams doing well in Conference league and not in home league.
For my club Slovan Bratislava the A team plays whatever europe cup in the middle of the week and the rest of the matches are played by the squad depths be it league or national cup, sometimes they sub in the stars just to force a win or tie. In our league, the money/skill gap for Slovan is favorable enough to give us a chance to win league with depth players despite doing the largest amount of matches in europe playing champions league qualifiers > europa league qualifiers > conference league qualifiers or group stage directly in better case + elimination while doing home cup and league in addition sprinkle in national calls for the best players
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15 seconds ago is crazy
Always were three comps it used to be:
European Cup
Uefa Cup
Cup winners' Cup
They've just morphed chasing filthy, filthy lucre.
Well - back in the day, when the "Champions League" was just the European Cup, you ONLY had the league champions of each nation competing... plus, the previous year's European Cup winner defending thr trophy, if they had not also won their domestic league. You also had the Cup-Winners Cup for teams that won their domestic cup (or the runner up, if that team was in the European Cup), and the UEFA Cup which was for the "best of the rest". The Uefa Cup, in those days, was considered the hardest to win in some ways, because the top leagues had multiple representatives, unlike the others in which only one (or, occasionally two) teams from each country could enter.
The Cup-Winners Cup was eventually scrapped, as it was officially the second of the three in importance, but was often the weakest in terms of the contestants, as teams from lower divisions sometimes won cup competitions.
The UEFA cup eventually morphed into the Europa League, and became the Champions League's baby cousin...
As for the creation of the Conference League - that, I suspect, was because so many of the "lesser" nations were fed up of being crowded out of the other two tournaments...
Conference league used to be European cup winners cup where Europe's Major cup winners would compete against each other. Champions league used to be only league champions in it. So the UEFA cup was actually the strongest competition as it was usually the 2nd and 3rd placed teams of the leagues. So UEFA see where the money was and abracadabra we have the Champions League format. Till next season anyway.
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Champions League was created for the Champions of every league, but expanded as football has grown alot
Europa League used to be Uefa Cup and was for the domestic cupwinners of every league
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Have been waiting for this vid LOVE IT
I'm pretty sure somebody already explained how the champions league evolved from Europa Cup(the Portuguese name was Taça das Taças the cup of cups the best of the best cup winners) and the europa league from the UEFA CUP that was for the leagues and the was a independent league for lower clubs called the Intertoto that was a bit of a mixed bag of teams like the conference league.
Why these tournaments exists? Because of what you are talking about. To have these great moments where just because a team is from a 'bigger' league, does not guarantee they are gonna win everything.
It is no surprise that they call it greek fire.
cant wait for the next video title "video"
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The champions league used to be with only the champions of the countries. The Europa league used to be the UEFA cup, with the 2nd to 5th of each league. Then there was Cup of the winners Cup with the winner of each countries FA Cup.
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the europa league used to be the cup of the cupwinners. so it was still not so easy to get in. nowadays there are like 5 premier league teams in the champions league, they just realized they make much more money, when there are more games and competitions.