A useful review but with one glaring omission: The Teensy family (in particular the 4.0 and 4.1) - these are not the cheapest MCUs but are certainly high performing and are programmable with both the Arduino IDE and PlatformIO.
Modify you breadboard! Get two of them and remove one power strip from each of them, then mount them together. Now you can fit the ESP32 between the two boards.
Pi Pico doesn't have an onboard Uart-USB Bridge and no onboard debugger (unlile an esp33) So if you don't run Arduino or Micropython, you have to program your own bridge and loose cpu cycles.
Don't knock micro USB! They are rugged, cables are cheap, and they take up little PCB space. Mini USB are the worst. The connector retention springs are in the board connector (micro has them on the cable side connector). This means that if (WHEN!) the retention spring goes bad you don't have to repair the board, just get a new cable!
MilkV should be compared with rpi zero and other SBCs. For me, the best development board with a fast microcontroller is the Arduino UNO R4 because it has the esp32 s3 plus a very resistant renesas chip, and the full support from the arduino community. I haven’t tried to program it with micro python tho
i am not familiar with the UNO R4 but i have been using various ESPs, and i think the ESP32-S3 is pretty amazing especially for the price. the ESP32-S2 is also really good, assuming you don't need bluetooth. and i believe both the -S2 and -S3 support running native RISC-V code in low power draw mode. i am not fond of python for various reasons so i can't speak to that; i'm sure it's fine for IoT stuff when you can afford the extra overhead, but you can always use the Arduino IDE to write C++ code which seems more appropriate to me. and if you are concerned about power draw ESP seemed the way to go to me. or a good way to go at least. although, wow, i looked it up. i'm still curious what the difference in power draw would be between MilkV vs. various ESP32-XX but wow at $10 it is indeed pretty amazing and also includes that arm core. not being capped at 264K or whatever seems nice, i am considering trying to pick maybe a duo and a duo256 up and doing some comparative power-draw/memory speed/io speed/etc. type tests. oh also i have not tried them but there are ESP32 variants that have RISC-V only as well, i would assume but have not confirmed that those are much lower power draw than the -SX ones.
In my area esp is more worth value than Arduino even comparing fake to fake.. attiny85 cost similarly as esp8266 in my area.. though attiny13 might be lower
Seriously ?? Why do you keep saying expensive? Who,... exactly is your target audience? An Arduino Uno R3 on Amazon is $22. Plus to use this you need a breadboard, jumper wire, computer, etc. Get a J-O-B ! if $22 is expensive to you.
A useful review but with one glaring omission: The Teensy family (in particular the 4.0 and 4.1) - these are not the cheapest MCUs but are certainly high performing and are programmable with both the Arduino IDE and PlatformIO.
Modify you breadboard! Get two of them and remove one power strip from each of them, then mount them together. Now you can fit the ESP32 between the two boards.
He even had them almost right. Hes just missing a bit of thinking
Would have been interesting to see some RISC V boards in the list. The CH32V203 is a really impressive part with 4 UARTs and lots of other I/O
you should add a teensy in this list ;) fastest microcontrollers with lot of interfaces available and lot of built-in fonctions
Ok, I‘ll Look it up. Thank you for the comment!
Pi Pico doesn't have an onboard Uart-USB Bridge and no onboard debugger (unlile an esp33)
So if you don't run Arduino or Micropython, you have to program your own bridge and loose cpu cycles.
Don't knock micro USB! They are rugged, cables are cheap, and they take up little PCB space. Mini USB are the worst. The connector retention springs are in the board connector (micro has them on the cable side connector). This means that if (WHEN!) the retention spring goes bad you don't have to repair the board, just get a new cable!
MilkV should be compared with rpi zero and other SBCs. For me, the best development board with a fast microcontroller is the Arduino UNO R4 because it has the esp32 s3 plus a very resistant renesas chip, and the full support from the arduino community. I haven’t tried to program it with micro python tho
i am not familiar with the UNO R4 but i have been using various ESPs, and i think the ESP32-S3 is pretty amazing especially for the price. the ESP32-S2 is also really good, assuming you don't need bluetooth. and i believe both the -S2 and -S3 support running native RISC-V code in low power draw mode.
i am not fond of python for various reasons so i can't speak to that; i'm sure it's fine for IoT stuff when you can afford the extra overhead, but you can always use the Arduino IDE to write C++ code which seems more appropriate to me. and if you are concerned about power draw ESP seemed the way to go to me. or a good way to go at least.
although, wow, i looked it up. i'm still curious what the difference in power draw would be between MilkV vs. various ESP32-XX but wow at $10 it is indeed pretty amazing and also includes that arm core. not being capped at 264K or whatever seems nice, i am considering trying to pick maybe a duo and a duo256 up and doing some comparative power-draw/memory speed/io speed/etc. type tests.
oh also i have not tried them but there are ESP32 variants that have RISC-V only as well, i would assume but have not confirmed that those are much lower power draw than the -SX ones.
In my area esp is more worth value than Arduino even comparing fake to fake.. attiny85 cost similarly as esp8266 in my area.. though attiny13 might be lower
You call the video 'The ultimate microcontroller tierlist' and you only show development platforms and even a full fledged SoC. Interesting...
do you got a link for esp32 Do?
pretty good list
I don't see any differences
Are you ranking the dev kit and not the mcu
nice
The Milk is such an odd choice to use in this list lol.
Milk is not a microcontroller
Seriously ?? Why do you keep saying expensive? Who,... exactly is your target audience? An Arduino Uno R3 on Amazon is $22. Plus to use this you need a breadboard, jumper wire, computer, etc. Get a J-O-B ! if $22 is expensive to you.