I love your philosophy on the sport. Personally I started motorcycles rather recently, in the end of 2020, and since then it's been one awesome adventure. Last spring I started trials and that has been such great fun, both physically and socially.
Every street bike rider I have introduced to off road 2 wheel sports has told me that dirt riding has changed their street riding style for the better. My riding style is pretty much trials (keep your feet on the pegs not dabbing the ground if at all possible) and it is amazing how much ugly ground you can get through. Time and practice is what it takes.
No matter what other type of riding you do. The skills you use, and learn with trials. Directly translates to all other forms of motorcycle riding. Not that you or I can ride like Toni Bou. But watch him on a 500lbs Africa twin. Or Graham Jarvis, Billy bolt. Their foundation is from trials background.
Good on you! I'm 72 and just learned to ride, (over 5,000 miles) this year. HE left us here to L I V E - not to sit on a couch, waiting to die. Ride in/with f a i t h !
I’ve been riding bikes all my life, never an accident until 3 years ago when I was 72 - and from no fault of my own, but was by a young girl hitting me with her car ! Can’t ride bikes any more now ! 🥴
I am SO sorry to read that, Eugene. As a lad of about 10, standing at an intersection, I saw an old lady in a Plymouth Valiant (not exactly a AA-fuel dragster), starting up on a Green light, just tap some yahoo and his girl friend (without helmets), trying to 'make the red light'. @@eugenegilleno9344 I saw a two-inch hole in his head with his brains in the street in a pool of blood - not the kind of thing I saw on "Leave It To Beaver". I thought a LOT about that and concluded that it didn't matter whether the rider or someone else made the mistake; life could be ruined or lost in a second on a bike. At 72, looking back at ALL HE protected me from ..., I thought it would be a slap in the face of God if I, like Peter reluctant to step out of the boat to walk on water, lost FAITH in HIM, now. So, at 72, I learned - to explore HIS marvelous creations. I ride in FAITH ... and pray (before and after EACH ride) for HIM to continue to protect me.
@@eugenegilleno9344 I wish to send congratulations with one sentence on your riding passion & longevity, however, I am saddened by you having your riding pleasure ripped away so I also send my commiserations with my next phrase. Hope you have found something in "Our Biking World" to fill the gap.
At 64, still riding fast Baja style and slow extreme hard enduro off-road and then on the outside edge (no chicken strip) of my tires in the twisties on-road with my sport bikes!! Motor bikes cure mental illness!!
Love this . Almost 67 with four dirt bikes and no golf clubs. (That's the secret). Perhaps it''s time for a trials. I've always said , at our age knowing how to fall is the key to healthy living.
Check out the electric Surrons and similar small e bike/dirt bikes. I am 65 and ride trails several times a week. They have limitations but are quiet, lightweight, very portable and capable, Love my Surron
We are getting older, but we are not dead, 67 years old and I love mountain biking. It gives me the same thrill as you are getting with a lot more exercise. Keep up the good work brother.
I stopped racing motocross in 1978 just before turning Pro. 42 years later, I got a Beta 300 and couldn’t believe how great it is to be back riding off-road. I’m on a TRS 280 now and the area I have to ride in is spectacular (coastal British Columbia). This is new-lease-on-life stuff! 66 and enjoying long balance-point wheelies and tight single track.
Brilliant. I'm 66 ride a Husky 300i. Live in South Africa. Blessed with spectacular terrain. Still trying to get the wheelie sorted but loving the ride. You are all an inspiration for me.
My sister had a Honda trials bike in the 70’s while the rest of us had Yz’s the bike that alway got snuck out when the adults weren’t home was the trials, I’m in my 60’s now still riding (CR 500 or XR600R now) and use what I learned on that bike. I would love to find on to restore and ride.
Cool Video. Lots of the shots looked like it was out at Desert Mountain, North of Delta, Utah where I live. Like the reasons you listed for a trials bike. I have a Honda Africa Twin which is way heavier than a trails bike, and I have crashed it several times. As someone who is in their 60's, picking up an Africa Twin is a pain. I need to move to something lighter for off road use. I do have a Honda Gold wing tour which is fun on road, but sometimes it would be fun to ride off road too.
Good observation. Some of the video was made at Desert Mountain. There is a trials competition there each year, typically in October. I understand about the Africa Twin, I also ride a Tenere 700 which is one heavy machine. Of the two I enjoy riding the trials bikes more.
I can see Supermoto being a super fun ride. The only thing I would add is don't wait as long as I did. It's a lot harder to master as we get older. I wish I'd started twenty years ago.
I use my Beta XTrainer for practicing trials riding. When I get tired I can sit on the seat. Even though it’s as hard as a brick…. At 65 it’s a great way to get out and rock climb
I am in ontario canada and its getting very crowded here as well. We used to have tons of riding areas here. Now with the real estate boom nothing but houses. I am looking for a better place to retire to and hopefully have a place to ride again
That is a very practical and great idea. I used to race motocross, tried trials once and realized I was too impatient to become a ballet dancer on wheels. Now...at 80...I could use the challenge. The gym is so damn boring and I have miles of woods and creeks to ride in just outside my door. Of course, since I live on the east coast, if I ride in the woods and get caught, I'll either be jailed or shot on the spot. All the more challenge.
We had an 80 year old ride during the Granny's Ranch Trial. He completed the entire 3 loops. What an inspiration. I used to watch North Woods Law and saw many episodes of them chasing down ATVs, so I hear ya!
I never knew your East Coast was so restrictive, it mirrors the troubles we motorcyclists find over this side of The Pond where one never knows from one month to the next if laws have been changed in order to prevent our enjoyment of outdoor trails. One month a ride is legal, the next we are banned.
I completely agree. I have owned a Montessa Cota 348. I’m 65 now and I have a KTM 450 and a mountain bicycle. It’s the bicycle that has done wonders for my balance and leg strength. One caveat about trials bikes. They have an extremely short wheel base, and if you are tall, you will feel like there is nothing under you when you look down And that you’re about to fall .over the bars.
Great stuff! I bought a Beta 2T 250 Evo last year at the age of 55. I also have a Royal Enfield Himalayan for trail riding (green lanes). I have been riding on the road since I was legally allowed to do do but learning off road riding skills has been a whole new challenge.
You sound like you're on the same path. I hope you find the Beta riding as addictive as I have. It's incredible how much fun one can have riding in an area less than an acre.
70 here and ride hard enduro terrain 3 days a week, year round. Most important is to learn how to ride without injuring yourself. Proper risk assessment skills are best learned through lots of practice and paying close attention to line choice. New and returning riders will find it easier with a seat of some sort. Trials riding requires good core strength. If you are not strong in this way it will be a miserable experience. Once fit, the trials bike is safer than a heavier enduro bike because it is so much lighter and less likely to injury you in a crash. Start out on easy terrain to build up your body, skills, and confidence. For most people the left side kick start is more difficult. As others have mentioned, a smaller displacement trials bike is much easier to learn on.
You can get a true enduro bike that will basically go anywhere. The street versions might want upgrades, but I've built a few street capable go-anywhere beasts.
In 1975 when I bought my TL250, which is not road legal, I had the Honda shop run the paperwork thru the state and put a plate on it. I told them that I would make it street legal by installing brake light, signals and a horn. You might see if the dealer will issue a plate for you.
Shopping for a bike now in Portland OR. Hopefully the coming rains will drop the prices. I rode a 650 for years 45 years ago in SW USA. Now wanting to explore coastal range.
I'm 72 and spent years riding dirt bikes and mountain bikes. Primarily, to balance work/life. Now, just riding road and mountain bikes. I figure on transitioning to a emtb. Nice to catch a video, once in awhile, of guys enjoying their retirement on two wheels in the dirt.
Retirees can get the same mental stimulation from cycling, along with massive cardio-vascular strength, back strength and overall muscle tone as well as social benefits and the mental stimulation derived from traveling around the countryside. 67 here and as fit as a butcher's dog.
I'm 63. Life long dirt rider. MX and woods riding mostly. Had to sell my KTM 300xcw, which I loved, because of nerve damage and multiple back surgeries. My first impression with this is that no rider had any body armor. The rocks look very scary to me. Even at slow speeds, a fall could seriously hurt you/me. What's up with that?
I can't speak to others, but I wear Fox Titan knee protectors under my pants. Thay have saved me from many sore or bruised knees. So far my crashes haven't thrown me off the bike and just my knees and hands make impact with the ground/rock etc.. Since I use my hands to catch myself I've gone with a thicker glove.
Rode pedal trials for over 20 years about a decade doing comp riding. I still ride push trials mostly for strength training. Last year found a Beta Techno in a barn and have been riding that starting over. I've found that moto trials is very different than pedal trials. Really the balance and body language transitions over. I still ride with people that I competed against 10+ years ago. That bond lasts forever. It's not only just riding- we will get together to ski and go camping- as not all of us are still riding trials anymore. I'm still young (40) but, I am not trying to shoot the biggest gap or see how much higher my ups get. I've found my zone and stick there. I love trials because I can get into this mental zone that like you said it is Zen. Plus with the trails skills, I can absolutely crush younger riders because of the skills that took me 20+ years to develop and hone. I was looking last year to buy a new Trek Mountain bike, I've always been a cyclist. They told me the price and I laughed- went over the the moto dealership and bought a new KLX300 for less than the pedal bike! Used my savings to buy gear and haven't really touched any of my bicycles since. The moto has hooked me and learning on the Beta has progressed my moto riding 10 fold. I can ride more technical trails at slower speeds and clean them with some of my riding buddies who have 10 years on me. There is something in me where I will spend hours doing one section hundreds of times, but when you clean it- MAGIC!
UCI type bicycle trials are a completely different animal- riding wise. Not at all like observed moto trials, except maybe the proprioception body balance control.
I already do that stuff on my mountain bike. And Ive been thinking for awhile now that getting a trials bike would make my mtn bike handling even better. BTW, my neighbor has a Montesa Cota that I've been trying to buy. I know...the 123 is a POS. And definitely not as nice as the new trials bikes...Oh Im in your age group...
Trials in Illinois are just flat trails in Illinois and we have to pay everywhere to ride because everything is privately owned. Maybe when I retire and leave Illinois, I will look into this, seems like fun, although I’d be wearing a lot more protective gear. Reality says I will crash a lot.
Before I retired, I moved wherever the company asked me to go. I generally found places to ride my MTB though. When I decided to retire, I placed a very high priority on being able to spend my days outdoors. Just a consideration.
All I can say is "Be Creative" in finding your riding areas. Even in areas with high population density there is still real estate out there that nobody really cares if you putt-putt around on. And don't expect to get permission, just give it a try and if somebody asks you to leave, you leave and don't come back. You'll find that there are places to ride where nobody cares. Look for property owned by corporations, like industrial parks that rent out floor space in buildings. These are often surrounded by wooded areas with interesting topo features. You just can't be shy. And no, there's damn little public land for moto use on the east coast.
I have been riding my Honda TL250 since 1975. Its a 298 now tho. The trials bikes will easily go where the big MX bikes get stuck and when you do get stuck, they are very light and easy to pick up. Besides, what other bike can provide lots of fun just playing on a large rock or tree stump?
I ride my Talaria e dirt bike and my fat ebike, slowly, on very rocky terrain, just about every day, at 74. I'm lucky to be able to ride right out of my rural property. When winter hits, I'll be back on my electric snowbike, and snowboarding, plus flying my ski plane. I was waiting to see "and chicks will still think you're badass" as a reason.
Where was this video done? The terrain is absolutely tantalizing! I'm in my late 40's and have always enjoyed technical riding on my bicycles. Got an Oset 24 a couple years ago and absolutely loved it. Currently have a Talaria XXX and am slowly modding it to be more trials worthy. Love you content, and I hope to be riding well into the next decades of my life.
@@twowheelgeriatric Utah is on my bucket list. Need to find a tour group that can rent a bike, as I have no way to get my bike out there from Connecticut.
That looks like three peeks by Cedar City Utah. Maybe I am wrong. I had a 1972 montesa 248 trials bike. I should have kept it but I still have 2 CR500’s an RM250 and a KX125. I like the idea of a newer trials bike. Cool video.
Yes it is Three Peaks. I'm trying to grow trials participation here, but so far there are only three of us. If you get a trials bike, at least you'll have a few others to ride with.
@@twowheelgeriatric I’ve just ridden mountain bikes out there. It is a cool place. I travel from north Arizona and back. Hopefully we can see each other. Have a good one.
My mom rode a trials in 1967 on the family bike. It was a 1958 BSA Bantam. The throttle cable caught on something and went WFO. She immediately dumped it. While the engine was screaming, she grabbed the spark plug wire and yanked it off. I know the pain she felt when that magneto gave her a wicked shock. My mom was the most fun mom around! She told me that my friend with a Kawi Mach lll 500 took her for a ride over the mountain. She looked over his shoulder and they were going over 100mph. She loved every minute of her riding days, mostly off road on the trails, though. P.S. you will be old before you know it. All the time I tell my daughter to do things while she's young and healthy. Like TWG said, don't wait!! PPS If this vid is representative of your others, I'm subbed.
@@twowheelgeriatric Nikola Tesla and Jesus were forced to die alone and broke just like me. We were not paid to breed or help any of the fatherless children we have. We were not allowed to write books or even leave. I wouldn't wish my experiences on anyone especially the Jesus style birth.
Started racing karts again, at 68 years old. Won my class state championship this year. If it weren't for my toys, karts, motorcycles, RC planes and helicopters. I'd be like many I see my age. Extremely unhealthy, weak, assisted walking or a wheelchair, or worse.
That's amazing! How do you stand the punishment in a kart at 68? I had bruises on my ribs 10 years ago in my 40's running Super Sportsman. You have to give me insight, please.
@@dan1906 I tried "not" wearing a rib vest when I got back into kart racing 2 years ago. Bad idea. Destroyed my ribs. Even in the 206 class you "must" wear a rib vest. Even though the 206 classes are the slowest in Senior karting now. The corner speeds these new karts produce is way more than back in the day. I still need to work on strength training in my arms and torso. Although it got better the more I raced. Kart racing is a good workout for me. Using muscles I hadn't used in quite a while. I still have some of what I used to have as far as driving. I won the state championship in 206 Masters this year. Won 6 out of 7 races. As long as your reasonably healthy. It's all in your attitude and mind. I still feel, mentally, like I'm much younger.
One thing I did have to give up was motorcycle road racing. When I lived in Florida there were track days year round. I had a GSXR 600. I never actually raced(too slow) but did a lot of track days. Where you ride at your own pace. Being as competitive as I am. I always wanted to go faster. But. Those bikes are so freakin fast, I found that my brain wasn't fast enough to keep up with the bike. Had a couple brain farts on track. And decided I better give it up. Or maybe hurt myself, or worse. You don't spin out on a bike. You hit pavement if you screw up. That's when I decided to get back into kart racing. Still a little dangerous, but much safer. And just as much fun.
62 years old. Had ridden enduro events and always did well on the technical stuff. Not so good on the open high speed stuff. I had no motocross experience. What trials bikes should i be looking at? My last bike was a KTM exc 300. Loved it.
I hope people comment with their thoughts, because everyone will have different opinions. I know this is a long answer but, personally, I'm happy with both of my bikes. I think the Gas Gas is easier to learn to balance and, after I changed the rear shock spring, the overall feel was gentler than the Beta. I like the feeling of the Beta clutch more than the Gas Gas. I like the ease of routine maintenance on the Beta more than the Gas Gas. Last weekend I rode the Gas Gas at a Utah trials event. Previously I had only ridden the Beta. At the end of the day, I finished in a similar position and my body felt the same. So for me overall performance and how I felt was pretty much equal. Both of my bikes are 300cc and I get comments that I should start on a 125 or 250. My friend, Josh, did transition to the 250 Gas Gas and he loves it, but I'll let him respond.
I've owned Bultaco Sherpa T, Yamaha TY 250 & a much later 350, and currently have a non-running OSSA Plonker. The TY 350 is the most modern trials bike I've ridden, and I sold it right away. To me it wasn't fun, it was hard work to ride. I can't comment on any of the current bikes on the market, but next summer I hope to re-live my youth on the Plonker. At 69 yo now, I love my vintage bikes, but I am falling in love with Fuel Inj and pushbutton starters!
@@savage22bolt32 There's something to say about whatever age bike. I guess it would go back to the type of riding one wants to do. Old school trials without ever stopping or modern stop, hop, jump.
I would love to do trials, but here in southern Ontario there is absolutely no land to ride unless you want to drive 3+ hours through Toronto up north.
I just bought a 2023 Gas Gas TXT 300. I'm 59 so your still young enough to enjoy it trials bike. I will give you a big piece of advice though. Please don't make the mistake I did and buy something you can't start. Listen to me please. I just went through a terrible summer dealing with throat cancer and I lost too much weight. I couldn't start this bike!! I'm 5'8" but I'm down to 130 pounds and that's making kicking this big 300 over extremely frustrating for me. I have a great friend whose in his 70s and just bought same bike and has no trouble at all starting my bike. Just make sure you have the strength to start it is all I'm pointing out. I spent over $200 recently for a low compression cylinder head and insert to make the task easier. Don't worry you will get it!
I agree with all your statements but I'll add one more: Motorcycles are easier to work than cars (previous hobby) especially as you get older. Have fun but don't try to be superhero it takes too long to heal at our age. My wife is a nurse and sees a lot of seriously crippled middle-aged people from falls. Also be aware younger riders don't always want to hang out with us older folks.
You make two good points. I too gave up tinkering on cars a long time ago. Unfortunately, age differences can be a hindrance, but something I didn't say is even worse. Since people are still people, there are always the cliquey ones.
I'm 66 in pretty good shape better then 98% of all other 66 year olds trust me. Let me enlighten people who seem to be totally unaware of the facts of aging no matter how great a shape they are in.... When you hit about 60 your skin gets very sensitive to o brushing cuts scratches breakage... Your joints and bones become very easily hurt and broken... If you want to be active and in good health and stay out of the hospital and the grave... Stay away from activities that will surely create massive pain and suffering. I'm a biker since I was a kid grew up on a farm we raised cattle chickens ducks bailed hair cut trees and cared for 175 acres. .I know work I know what it means to put yourself in danger... I am not so sure a trials bike is good for 99% of seniors even those in great shape like me...Be careful be smart don't try to be 30 40 or 50 ...be your age use your brain...be smart stay alive and unhurt
I am 68 and agree with some of what you say but not all. I still ride vintage MX every year...have been for the last 20 years... and I have made I promise to myself to take the gate at least until 70 years old. I have arthritis here and there in my body...neck, lower back, hands...and have had a couple of absolutely brutal sciatica attacks. I have had asthma all my life that seems to be getting worse as i get older. And in all honesty it hurts a lot some times when I walk. But I am certainly not ready to just live life in a glass house. I have been lucky as far as the racing thing goes with only a broken shoulder and torn rotator cuff that needed surgery that both healed very quickly back in 2008. I have crashed a few times but mostly just falls in the turns which don't hurt...much. I too grew up on a dairy farm so I too know what work is. Spent 49 years working at least 10 hrs. a day standing/walking on concrete floors. I have lost 2 inches on my height from deteriorating discs in my back thus the sciatic problems. My hands and shoulders hurt a lot and my knuckles are all swollen. Even after all those old age problems and having x-rays, MRI's, PT, and $4000 chiropractic back therapy the doctors tell me to do whatever I want with the only condition being if it hurts then stop doing it. The important thing they tell me is keep doing what I am doing a KEEP MOVING. With that all being said...I am thrilled to know that I still ride motocross and on old motorcycles that young riders won't touch with a 10 foot pole. No i am no longer fast or even competitive but surprisingly if I just keep chugging along and finish the race I seem to end up way higher in the finish order than I had anticipated just because I survived to the end when half of the riders did not. And that makes it worth living to enter the next race. No sir, you can have your trials bike or no Motorbike at all if you are so damned worried about getting hurt. THAT my friend is when you DO get hurt.
I'm 77 and started riding again last year after a long time without a MC. Let me tell you, riding is still as much of a pleasure it used to be, but I had no idea how much muscle tone you need to ride in dirt. I bought a dirt bike, a Honda "tractor", and I haven't even done a wheelie on it, much less jump it.
great content. I am looking to get my first trials bike, been riding street and dual sports for the last 30 years. Which do you like better, the GasGas or Beta?
They are different machines and both are great bikes. My thoughts on both bikes are this: Beta rides great and has the sharpest full lock turn radius. I like the feel of the clutch better on the Beta. The Beta is easier to perform normal maintenance on (air filter change, oil change, etc). The Beta starts on the first kick every time. Gas Gas is easier to balance and the clutch feels smoother, but I still prefer the Beta clutch. The Gas Gas provides a better sense of confidence dropping off steep stuff. I've figured out a starting technique that gets the Gas Gas running on the first of second kick, so starting is not an issue with me. While they are slightly different I plan to use the Beta for trials events and use the Gas Gas for my daily riding/training bike. That is based on my total time on each bike. Beta = 60 hours and Gas Gas =12 hours.
@@twowheelgeriatric Thank you for the feedback. A local dealer has a '23 gas gas txt gp and another has a '22 beta evo factory that I am trying to decide between and see who will give me the better deal.
Im 59 and frustrated before I even start. I'm not a big guy! 134 pounds and 5"7" and I bought a new Gas Gas txt 300. I had it delivered last day of July and to this day in November I haven't ever got it started. I know it's right! I know it's not the bike because the salesman started it in 2: kicks and a 74 year old buddy of mine who has the same exact bike starts it no problem. I've been riding dirt bikes since the 70s and never had this problem in my life! I bought an S3 low compression cylinder head and insert to lower the compression but haven't installed it yet. I feel bad taking the bike apart because it's brand new. Do you think the lower compression head will help me? My only other option is to try to sell it and look for a 200 cc or something smaller? Is that option make sense? I just don't know what to do. I spent all that money and so far only sat in a lawn chair looking at it. And watching my buddy ride it. Honestly what would you do? I appreciate any advice. Really I welcome comments.
I can't even imagine the frustration. If something like that befell me, this is what I'd do: 1) Install the S3 low compression head and give that a try. If it works great. If it does not work then, 2) Sell the Gas Gas, you should be able to get a decent price. 3) Buy a TRS with an electric start. If that is too expensive, then 4) Go to a dealer and see if they'll let you kick start whatever model you are considering. If they want to sell, I imagine they'd do that. Good luck.
When I bought my GasGas a few weeks ago, I couldn't get it started either. The GasGas is more difficult to kick than the beta for sure. But TWG has given me some good feedback on getting it started. This has helped me and it is usually only one to two kicks to get started. 1. If cold start, gas on, choke on 2. Engage the Kickstarter until it has strong resistance from the top (start position). 3. Open the throttle just barely off closed and hold the position 4. Swift hard kick 5. Repeat if needed This works great for me and TWG.
As a novice trials rider it is best to start with a 125 or 200 bike, the 300 is way too much bike, even a 250 has more than you can use as a novice...........in trials LESS is MORE x500 fold......................125 has plenty of power and is way more controllable and accurate
066MX, sell the 300 or trade it for a 125. You will have more fun than a barrel of monkeys! P.S. I am similar in age, weight & height as you. I remember my 350cc Ducati hillclimb bike nearly sending me over the handlebars while kicking it over when I was in high school.
Trials bikes are surely the ultimate adventure bikes for old people. Very docile and well behaved in the rough stuff, but slow and not street legal. If you can have your adventure exploring the back woods behind your house, then go for it 👍
I live in Salt Lake City and have a house in Torrey Utah near Loa. I am looking at getting a trials bike. Are there places to ride close to Salt Lake that don’t require a lot of driving? Is the area in Loa private land or BLM land that is open to trials riding? Are there many in Utah that ride trials? Thanks for any info.
Check out this link to see the participation of Utah Moto Trials Association, utahmototrials.com/ Elberta UT seems to be a favorite among SLC trials riders, I haven't been there yet, but plan to compete on November 11th. Yes the Loa area is on BLM land. Near Heber is "Granny's Ranch" it is private land, but open to members of the UMTA. I live in southern UT so I'm not an expert on SLC riding areas.
@@twowheelgeriatric I'm still fairly new to riding but have a few years under my belt. Current bike is a KLX300 with some basic suspension modifications. I love it. Looking to get a trials bike to hone in some skills. Do you find a 300 to be too snappy for a beginners trials bike?? I've been looking at 125s and 250s...but there's soooo many more 300s out there or so it seems
@@zacharyhart7025 I've been told by quite a few people that a 300 is too much for a new trials rider. I got one anyway and I'm happy with it. My friend, Josh, who rides a lot with me went with a 250 and loves it. I'm hesitant to recommend or suggest what one should get. I can only say I'm happy with what I have and don't regret it. Sorry for the wishy washy answer.
@@twowheelgeriatric do you rememeber my comment? "Reason #6, give you more confidence on your other bikes" Paraphrased.. your response "That's the one!" ..
Trial Tube video "Best Honda TRL's you've ever seen Classic Bike Review" I watched that video (a week ago??) but commented on your video within hours of you posting??
In Germany & Austria there is a large used market for Gasgas, Beta, Montesa, Ossa etc. for little money. If you really want a new one, consider buying a model from last year and if you start with trial, buy an old one.😃
@@Dutch58 Yeah buy a vintage bike. there are quite a few Bultaco Sherpa T's still around for sale in the $1500 to $3000 price range. Still lots of parts available for them new and used.
For old people only I’m 56. Act your age. Ride what I do- 1985 ATC250R. Trail Bikes are for kids. ATCs scare adults and kids. Ever gone sideways thru a turn at over 35 mph? Get One.
It's the challenge. More exercise? Nope. Have you ever ridden dirt? It is a proper workout, very intensive. The sounds and fumes are glorious, nothing compares to a 2 stroke. I doubt you would get that either. Me thinks you done missed the point.
@@AutoCrete Properly true. I have lost 5 lbs in a stock car, small time Saturday night short track stuff, in 1 hour. Arguable how much was stress, and how mush was effort. I think people underestimate the intensity of motorsports.
You can see my two mountain bikes at the start of the video. The same thing happens when an old man breaks a bone whether on the trials bike or the mountain bike. It hurts and takes a while to heal.
Trials in Illinois are just flat trails in Illinois and we have to pay everywhere to ride because everything is privately owned. Maybe when I retire and leave Illinois, I will look into this, seems like fun, although I’d be wearing a lot more protective gear. Reality says I will crash a lot.
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I love your philosophy on the sport. Personally I started motorcycles rather recently, in the end of 2020, and since then it's been one awesome adventure. Last spring I started trials and that has been such great fun, both physically and socially.
Thanks for the comment. For sure we need to get our friends on a trials bike. it'll make their lives better.
Every street bike rider I have introduced to off road 2 wheel sports has told me that dirt riding has changed their street riding style for the better. My riding style is pretty much trials (keep your feet on the pegs not dabbing the ground if at all possible) and it is amazing how much ugly ground you can get through. Time and practice is what it takes.
As an almost 73 y. O. With over 55 years of riding, this agrees with my thoughts on trials too
No matter what other type of riding you do. The skills you use, and learn with trials. Directly translates to all other forms of motorcycle riding. Not that you or I can ride like Toni Bou. But watch him on a 500lbs Africa twin. Or Graham Jarvis, Billy bolt. Their foundation is from trials background.
No truer words spoken.
Good on you! I'm 72 and just learned to ride, (over 5,000 miles) this year. HE left us here to L I V E - not to sit on a couch, waiting to die. Ride in/with f a i t h !
I’ve been riding bikes all my life, never an accident until 3 years ago when I was 72 - and from no fault of my own, but was by a young girl hitting me with her car ! Can’t ride bikes any more now ! 🥴
I am SO sorry to read that, Eugene. As a lad of about 10, standing at an intersection, I saw an old lady in a Plymouth Valiant (not exactly a AA-fuel dragster), starting up on a Green light, just tap some yahoo and his girl friend (without helmets), trying to 'make the red light'. @@eugenegilleno9344 I saw a two-inch hole in his head with his brains in the street in a pool of blood - not the kind of thing I saw on "Leave It To Beaver". I thought a LOT about that and concluded that it didn't matter whether the rider or someone else made the mistake; life could be ruined or lost in a second on a bike. At 72, looking back at ALL HE protected me from ..., I thought it would be a slap in the face of God if I, like Peter reluctant to step out of the boat to walk on water, lost FAITH in HIM, now. So, at 72, I learned - to explore HIS marvelous creations. I ride in FAITH ... and pray (before and after EACH ride) for HIM to continue to protect me.
@@eugenegilleno9344
I wish to send congratulations with one sentence on your riding passion & longevity, however, I am saddened by you having your riding pleasure ripped away so I also send my commiserations with my next phrase.
Hope you have found something in "Our Biking World" to fill the gap.
Just started learning trials bicycle at 63. Your reasons are spot-on. Excellent!
At 64, still riding fast Baja style and slow extreme hard enduro off-road and then on the outside edge (no chicken strip) of my tires in the twisties on-road with my sport bikes!! Motor bikes cure mental illness!!
I just bought a used 2011 BETA EVO 290 a couple of days ago. Even at 54 years old it's never too late for new adventures. 😅
I completely agree! Best wishes for enjoying the Beta and riding trials.
Love this . Almost 67 with four dirt bikes and no golf clubs. (That's the secret). Perhaps it''s time for a trials. I've always said , at our age knowing how to fall is the key to healthy living.
Just FYI, once I got a trials bike my other bikes sit in the garage a lot more.
Lol. A bad day on the course hurts a lot less... Fore! Ok, well... maybe.
I had a few friends who rode trials. I was stunned by what they could do. I love it.
Check out the electric Surrons and similar small e bike/dirt bikes. I am 65 and ride trails several times a week. They have limitations but are quiet, lightweight, very portable and capable, Love my Surron
I'm 56 and ride hard enduro for exactly the same reasons! Bravo for spreading the gospel!
You got it!
We are getting older, but we are not dead, 67 years old and I love mountain biking. It gives me the same thrill as you are getting with a lot more exercise. Keep up the good work brother.
You can see in the start of the video that mountain bikes are part of fun. Absolutely nothing wrong with getting out on a MTB!
I stopped racing motocross in 1978 just before turning Pro. 42 years later, I got a Beta 300 and couldn’t believe how great it is to be back riding off-road. I’m on a TRS 280 now and the area I have to ride in is spectacular (coastal British Columbia). This is new-lease-on-life stuff! 66 and enjoying long balance-point wheelies and tight single track.
BC is a place I'd love to see before I die. Clearly you get it about having a trials bike.
Brilliant. I'm 66 ride a Husky 300i. Live in South Africa. Blessed with spectacular terrain. Still trying to get the wheelie sorted but loving the ride. You are all an inspiration for me.
My sister had a Honda trials bike in the 70’s while the rest of us had Yz’s the bike that alway got snuck out when the adults weren’t home was the trials, I’m in my 60’s now still riding (CR 500 or XR600R now) and use what I learned on that bike. I would love to find on to restore and ride.
Cool Video. Lots of the shots looked like it was out at Desert Mountain, North of Delta, Utah where I live. Like the reasons you listed for a trials bike. I have a Honda Africa Twin which is way heavier than a trails bike, and I have crashed it several times. As someone who is in their 60's, picking up an Africa Twin is a pain. I need to move to something lighter for off road use. I do have a Honda Gold wing tour which is fun on road, but sometimes it would be fun to ride off road too.
Good observation. Some of the video was made at Desert Mountain. There is a trials competition there each year, typically in October. I understand about the Africa Twin, I also ride a Tenere 700 which is one heavy machine. Of the two I enjoy riding the trials bikes more.
Agree 100 percent, I've been riding since 1978, don't intend to stop now 😁
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I just got a 86 Honda reflex..back to my youth. But I've been riding Mtb since the Early 80s..
If it's got 2 wheels..Ride!..
At 57 I'm still on my DR650 but, there will be a day... TY for the video. My 23-year-old son wants a trials bike and it looks more and more inviting.
I couldn't imagine a better reason than to have the connection and similar interest with your son.
such a sick video! im 31 and i ride Supermoto for all the same reasons! definitely going to get into trials riding at some point its right up my alley
I can see Supermoto being a super fun ride. The only thing I would add is don't wait as long as I did. It's a lot harder to master as we get older. I wish I'd started twenty years ago.
I use my Beta XTrainer for practicing trials riding. When I get tired I can sit on the seat. Even though it’s as hard as a brick…. At 65 it’s a great way to get out and rock climb
I don't think I could do that. I imagine you've set the suspension as soft as possible,
I’m in the UK and I’m envious of the open space you have available. Boy it’s crowded on this little island 😎
Yeah but you guys are masters at trials.
I am in ontario canada and its getting very crowded here as well. We used to have tons of riding areas here. Now with the real estate boom nothing but houses. I am looking for a better place to retire to and hopefully have a place to ride again
I first learned to ride doing trials. I still have skills that will never be used on pavement. Perfect training for street riding.
That’s the spirit, totally agreeing with you💪
This inspires me to get my 74 ty250 out.
Cool that you have one. Too bad the club in Utah doesn't have a vintage class.
That is a very practical and great idea. I used to race motocross, tried trials once and realized I was too impatient to become a ballet dancer on wheels. Now...at 80...I could use the challenge. The gym is so damn boring and I have miles of woods and creeks to ride in just outside my door. Of course, since I live on the east coast, if I ride in the woods and get caught, I'll either be jailed or shot on the spot. All the more challenge.
We had an 80 year old ride during the Granny's Ranch Trial. He completed the entire 3 loops. What an inspiration.
I used to watch North Woods Law and saw many episodes of them chasing down ATVs, so I hear ya!
I never knew your East Coast was so restrictive, it mirrors the troubles we motorcyclists find over this side of The Pond where one never knows from one month to the next if laws have been changed in order to prevent our enjoyment of outdoor trails.
One month a ride is legal, the next we are banned.
I completely agree. I have owned a Montessa Cota 348. I’m 65 now and I have a KTM 450 and a mountain bicycle. It’s the bicycle that has done wonders for my balance and leg strength. One caveat about trials bikes. They have an extremely short wheel base, and if you are tall, you will feel like there is nothing under you when you look down And that you’re about to fall .over the bars.
Such powerful shots my friend, I love your dedication with every video.
Thanks Ervin. I love this sport and try to get others involved.
Ebikes dude, silence is golden. And ride on the streets, plenty of action at 20mph. I'm 59. Super fit with the ebike.
Great stuff! I bought a Beta 2T 250 Evo last year at the age of 55. I also have a Royal Enfield Himalayan for trail riding (green lanes). I have been riding on the road since I was legally allowed to do do but learning off road riding skills has been a whole new challenge.
You sound like you're on the same path. I hope you find the Beta riding as addictive as I have. It's incredible how much fun one can have riding in an area less than an acre.
70 here and ride hard enduro terrain 3 days a week, year round. Most important is to learn how to ride without injuring yourself. Proper risk assessment skills are best learned through lots of practice and paying close attention to line choice. New and returning riders will find it easier with a seat of some sort. Trials riding requires good core strength. If you are not strong in this way it will be a miserable experience. Once fit, the trials bike is safer than a heavier enduro bike because it is so much lighter and less likely to injury you in a crash. Start out on easy terrain to build up your body, skills, and confidence. For most people the left side kick start is more difficult. As others have mentioned, a smaller displacement trials bike is much easier to learn on.
I admit while learning to balance my abs and lower back were the most sore. A good core strength is needed.
well done, thumbs up 👍🎉🏆
I want one street legal. The idea of driving over the traffic is appealing.
You can get a true enduro bike that will basically go anywhere. The street versions might want upgrades, but I've built a few street capable go-anywhere beasts.
In 1975 when I bought my TL250, which is not road legal, I had the Honda shop run the paperwork thru the state and put a plate on it. I told them that I would make it street legal by installing brake light, signals and a horn. You might see if the dealer will issue a plate for you.
Shopping for a bike now in Portland OR. Hopefully the coming rains will drop the prices. I rode a 650 for years 45 years ago in SW USA. Now wanting to explore coastal range.
I'm 75 and just bought a honda crf250l, I don't do this sort of thing as I'm scared of breaking my legs but it's great fun round the lanes 😂
Yes as we age we do need to consider the risks of getting injured
Awesome. Ived wanted one of these for the garage. They look like fun.
If you got one, I promise it would be the first one out of the garage.
I'm 72 and spent years riding dirt bikes and mountain bikes. Primarily, to balance work/life. Now, just riding road and mountain bikes. I figure on transitioning to a emtb. Nice to catch a video, once in awhile, of guys enjoying their retirement on two wheels in the dirt.
My life is better balanced now that I'm retired. The decision to retire was the best decision I've ever made.
I miss trials. What great trials country/terrain you have!
Retirees can get the same mental stimulation from cycling, along with massive cardio-vascular strength, back strength and overall muscle tone as well as social benefits and the mental stimulation derived from traveling around the countryside. 67 here and as fit as a butcher's dog.
Yep that is true, but my channel is more about motorcycles.
@benden, I've heard there is a ranch near Las Vegas where retirees can get a good work out that gives all the same results 🤔
I use mine as a trail bike, Beta 300 2T with long range kit. hard to beat this little mountain goat.
I'm 63. Life long dirt rider. MX and woods riding mostly. Had to sell my KTM 300xcw, which I loved, because of nerve damage and multiple back surgeries. My first impression with this is that no rider had any body armor. The rocks look very scary to me. Even at slow speeds, a fall could seriously hurt you/me. What's up with that?
I can't speak to others, but I wear Fox Titan knee protectors under my pants. Thay have saved me from many sore or bruised knees. So far my crashes haven't thrown me off the bike and just my knees and hands make impact with the ground/rock etc.. Since I use my hands to catch myself I've gone with a thicker glove.
Rode pedal trials for over 20 years about a decade doing comp riding. I still ride push trials mostly for strength training. Last year found a Beta Techno in a barn and have been riding that starting over. I've found that moto trials is very different than pedal trials. Really the balance and body language transitions over. I still ride with people that I competed against 10+ years ago. That bond lasts forever. It's not only just riding- we will get together to ski and go camping- as not all of us are still riding trials anymore. I'm still young (40) but, I am not trying to shoot the biggest gap or see how much higher my ups get. I've found my zone and stick there. I love trials because I can get into this mental zone that like you said it is Zen. Plus with the trails skills, I can absolutely crush younger riders because of the skills that took me 20+ years to develop and hone. I was looking last year to buy a new Trek Mountain bike, I've always been a cyclist. They told me the price and I laughed- went over the the moto dealership and bought a new KLX300 for less than the pedal bike! Used my savings to buy gear and haven't really touched any of my bicycles since. The moto has hooked me and learning on the Beta has progressed my moto riding 10 fold. I can ride more technical trails at slower speeds and clean them with some of my riding buddies who have 10 years on me. There is something in me where I will spend hours doing one section hundreds of times, but when you clean it- MAGIC!
I'd say you completely get it.
UCI type bicycle trials are a completely different animal- riding wise. Not at all like observed moto trials, except maybe the proprioception body balance control.
@@rider65 I can certainly appreciate the skill set needed for either one. I've never tried on a bike, but imagine it's harder.
I already do that stuff on my mountain bike. And Ive been thinking for awhile now that getting a trials bike would make my mtn bike handling even better. BTW, my neighbor has a Montesa Cota that I've been trying to buy. I know...the 123 is a POS. And definitely not as nice as the new trials bikes...Oh Im in your age group...
Trials in Illinois are just flat trails in Illinois and we have to pay everywhere to ride because everything is privately owned. Maybe when I retire and leave Illinois, I will look into this, seems like fun, although I’d be wearing a lot more protective gear. Reality says I will crash a lot.
Before I retired, I moved wherever the company asked me to go. I generally found places to ride my MTB though. When I decided to retire, I placed a very high priority on being able to spend my days outdoors. Just a consideration.
I am 57, and did my first trials event at Rattlers Run this year....... Took 4th in my class
Not bad for my first time.
Congratulations! Not bad at all.
I enjoy technical trail riding and exploring. I think I would like a 125-200 trials bike.
Give it a go, you won't be disappointed.
I wish there were more places to ride them here on the east coast
Yeah you guys don't have a lot of public land. I know I have it good and I do not take it for granted.
All I can say is "Be Creative" in finding your riding areas. Even in areas with high population density there is still real estate out there that nobody really cares if you putt-putt around on. And don't expect to get permission, just give it a try and if somebody asks you to leave, you leave and don't come back. You'll find that there are places to ride where nobody cares. Look for property owned by corporations, like industrial parks that rent out floor space in buildings. These are often surrounded by wooded areas with interesting topo features. You just can't be shy. And no, there's damn little public land for moto use on the east coast.
@@andrewhanson5942 its the reason i tagged my 450sxf :) ride in ride out rather than unloading.
I have been riding my Honda TL250 since 1975. Its a 298 now tho. The trials bikes will easily go where the big MX bikes get stuck and when you do get stuck, they are very light and easy to pick up. Besides, what other bike can provide lots of fun just playing on a large rock or tree stump?
You got it.
I ride my Talaria e dirt bike and my fat ebike, slowly, on very rocky terrain, just about every day, at 74. I'm lucky to be able to ride right out of my rural property. When winter hits, I'll be back on my electric snowbike, and snowboarding, plus flying my ski plane. I was waiting to see "and chicks will still think you're badass" as a reason.
Sounds like you have an arsenal of toys, that's great. On the other comment, chicks quit looking at me in 1996!
Where was this video done? The terrain is absolutely tantalizing!
I'm in my late 40's and have always enjoyed technical riding on my bicycles. Got an Oset 24 a couple years ago and absolutely loved it. Currently have a Talaria XXX and am slowly modding it to be more trials worthy. Love you content, and I hope to be riding well into the next decades of my life.
Filmed at Three Peaks Recreation Area in Cedar City Utah.
I started very late in life and wish I'd started earlier.
@@twowheelgeriatric Thanks!
@@twowheelgeriatric Utah is on my bucket list. Need to find a tour group that can rent a bike, as I have no way to get my bike out there from Connecticut.
@@savage22bolt32 What type of bike would you rent? Adventure, Road, Trials?
@@twowheelgeriatric I think it would have to be street legal, so a dualsport would do. Presently, my most ridden bike is a CRF250L.
That looks like three peeks by Cedar City Utah. Maybe I am wrong. I had a 1972 montesa 248 trials bike. I should have kept it but I still have 2 CR500’s an RM250 and a KX125. I like the idea of a newer trials bike. Cool video.
Yes it is Three Peaks. I'm trying to grow trials participation here, but so far there are only three of us. If you get a trials bike, at least you'll have a few others to ride with.
@@twowheelgeriatric I’ve just ridden mountain bikes out there. It is a cool place. I travel from north Arizona and back. Hopefully we can see each other. Have a good one.
Always wanted to try Trials . Definitely fit enough. Maybe one day when I’m older 😅. Way to go!
I regret starting later in life... Don't delay too long.
My mom rode a trials in 1967 on the family bike. It was a 1958 BSA Bantam. The throttle cable caught on something and went WFO. She immediately dumped it. While the engine was screaming, she grabbed the spark plug wire and yanked it off.
I know the pain she felt when that magneto gave her a wicked shock.
My mom was the most fun mom around! She told me that my friend with a Kawi Mach lll 500 took her for a ride over the mountain. She looked over his shoulder and they were going over 100mph. She loved every minute of her riding days, mostly off road on the trails, though.
P.S. you will be old before you know it. All the time I tell my daughter to do things while she's young and healthy. Like TWG said, don't wait!!
PPS If this vid is representative of your others, I'm subbed.
I always wanted a trial bike.
I could become a salesman for them as I enjoy it so much
@@twowheelgeriatric Nikola Tesla and Jesus were forced to die alone and broke just like me. We were not paid to breed or help any of the fatherless children we have. We were not allowed to write books or even leave. I wouldn't wish my experiences on anyone especially the Jesus style birth.
I will never wear comfortable shoes again per Greig Wilcoxen
Don't ever work hard, set a goal or help anyone especially the wounded warriors and women. Get a government job
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Started racing karts again, at 68 years old. Won my class state championship this year. If it weren't for my toys, karts, motorcycles, RC planes and helicopters. I'd be like many I see my age. Extremely unhealthy, weak, assisted walking or a wheelchair, or worse.
Keep on keeping on buddy!
That's amazing! How do you stand the punishment in a kart at 68? I had bruises on my ribs 10 years ago in my 40's running Super Sportsman. You have to give me insight, please.
@@dan1906 I tried "not" wearing a rib vest when I got back into kart racing 2 years ago. Bad idea. Destroyed my ribs. Even in the 206 class you "must" wear a rib vest. Even though the 206 classes are the slowest in Senior karting now. The corner speeds these new karts produce is way more than back in the day. I still need to work on strength training in my arms and torso. Although it got better the more I raced. Kart racing is a good workout for me. Using muscles I hadn't used in quite a while. I still have some of what I used to have as far as driving. I won the state championship in 206 Masters this year. Won 6 out of 7 races. As long as your reasonably healthy. It's all in your attitude and mind. I still feel, mentally, like I'm much younger.
One thing I did have to give up was motorcycle road racing. When I lived in Florida there were track days year round. I had a GSXR 600. I never actually raced(too slow) but did a lot of track days. Where you ride at your own pace. Being as competitive as I am. I always wanted to go faster. But. Those bikes are so freakin fast, I found that my brain wasn't fast enough to keep up with the bike. Had a couple brain farts on track. And decided I better give it up. Or maybe hurt myself, or worse. You don't spin out on a bike. You hit pavement if you screw up. That's when I decided to get back into kart racing. Still a little dangerous, but much safer. And just as much fun.
Or... Proof that you don't need to go fast, to have some fun...
I like that!
Us old guys need a comfortable seat.
That's the Lazy Boy in the living room. Out here you want leg and ball room.🙂
Keep young mate!
I thought I knew how to ride a motorcycle until I got on the trials bike.😂🤠💩
62 years old. Had ridden enduro events and always did well on the technical stuff. Not so good on the open high speed stuff. I had no motocross experience. What trials bikes should i be looking at? My last bike was a KTM exc 300. Loved it.
I hope people comment with their thoughts, because everyone will have different opinions. I know this is a long answer but, personally, I'm happy with both of my bikes.
I think the Gas Gas is easier to learn to balance and, after I changed the rear shock spring, the overall feel was gentler than the Beta.
I like the feeling of the Beta clutch more than the Gas Gas. I like the ease of routine maintenance on the Beta more than the Gas Gas.
Last weekend I rode the Gas Gas at a Utah trials event. Previously I had only ridden the Beta. At the end of the day, I finished in a similar position and my body felt the same. So for me overall performance and how I felt was pretty much equal.
Both of my bikes are 300cc and I get comments that I should start on a 125 or 250.
My friend, Josh, did transition to the 250 Gas Gas and he loves it, but I'll let him respond.
I've owned Bultaco Sherpa T, Yamaha TY 250 & a much later 350, and currently have a non-running OSSA Plonker.
The TY 350 is the most modern trials bike I've ridden, and I sold it right away. To me it wasn't fun, it was hard work to ride.
I can't comment on any of the current bikes on the market, but next summer I hope to re-live my youth on the Plonker.
At 69 yo now, I love my vintage bikes, but I am falling in love with Fuel Inj and pushbutton starters!
@@savage22bolt32 There's something to say about whatever age bike. I guess it would go back to the type of riding one wants to do. Old school trials without ever stopping or modern stop, hop, jump.
@@twowheelgeriatric I like them all!Hey man, if it has two wheels & a motor, count me in! Brakes optional.
I like the Montessa. These days they have Honda engines. Ultra reliable
Awsome where in the world is this located..would love a group like this
At the Three Peaks Rec Area in Cedar City Utah.
@twowheelgeriatric have not been out that way but would love you check.it.out.on day looks like.you are having alot of fun..
I would love to do trials, but here in southern Ontario there is absolutely no land to ride unless you want to drive 3+ hours through Toronto up north.
That's a shame as trials bikes are not as destructive as other off highway vehicles.
Vote for Trudeau again. Hes promising more riding in Southern Ontario
Move to Alberta. Tons of public riding areas here. Fantastic trails and scenery.
The Ganaraska. Surely there’s some terrain worth riding there.
@@360Crankthe greenie wienies are trying to put an end to that as well
I've always wanted to try one. That place is the perfect type of terrain. Only some old people want a seat 🙄
Thanks for watching and now you have five more reasons to get one.
Great video!
Thanks and thanks for watching.
Very good
I’m trying to save for a bike 64 years old need to do it
I have no regrets.
I just bought a 2023 Gas Gas TXT 300. I'm 59 so your still young enough to enjoy it trials bike. I will give you a big piece of advice though. Please don't make the mistake I did and buy something you can't start. Listen to me please. I just went through a terrible summer dealing with throat cancer and I lost too much weight. I couldn't start this bike!! I'm 5'8" but I'm down to 130 pounds and that's making kicking this big 300 over extremely frustrating for me. I have a great friend whose in his 70s and just bought same bike and has no trouble at all starting my bike. Just make sure you have the strength to start it is all I'm pointing out. I spent over $200 recently for a low compression cylinder head and insert to make the task easier. Don't worry you will get it!
I’m 62 and yesterday rode a 40 mile single track here in the Colorado mountains with my son and friend. You can do it too!
I’m not old ( 50 isn’t old is it ? 😂 ) but I have always wanted a trials bike.
I would say - Don't delay.
That's not old, young man. 54 here and still riding dirt. No trials yet. That is probably a shame/missed opportunity.
@@dan1906 I started at 64, so you still have time.
I agree with all your statements but I'll add one more: Motorcycles are easier to work than cars (previous hobby) especially as you get older. Have fun but don't try to be superhero it takes too long to heal at our age. My wife is a nurse and sees a lot of seriously crippled middle-aged people from falls. Also be aware younger riders don't always want to hang out with us older folks.
You make two good points. I too gave up tinkering on cars a long time ago. Unfortunately, age differences can be a hindrance, but something I didn't say is even worse. Since people are still people, there are always the cliquey ones.
I'm 66 in pretty good shape better then 98% of all other 66 year olds trust me. Let me enlighten people who seem to be totally unaware of the facts of aging no matter how great a shape they are in.... When you hit about 60 your skin gets very sensitive to o brushing cuts scratches breakage... Your joints and bones become very easily hurt and broken... If you want to be active and in good health and stay out of the hospital and the grave... Stay away from activities that will surely create massive pain and suffering. I'm a biker since I was a kid grew up on a farm we raised cattle chickens ducks bailed hair cut trees and cared for 175 acres. .I know work I know what it means to put yourself in danger... I am not so sure a trials bike is good for 99% of seniors even those in great shape like me...Be careful be smart don't try to be 30 40 or 50 ...be your age use your brain...be smart stay alive and unhurt
Yep the old man bruises really stand out. The first ones bothered me, but now I accept them.
I am 68 and agree with some of what you say but not all. I still ride vintage MX every year...have been for the last 20 years... and I have made I promise to myself to take the gate at least until 70 years old. I have arthritis here and there in my body...neck, lower back, hands...and have had a couple of absolutely brutal sciatica attacks. I have had asthma all my life that seems to be getting worse as i get older. And in all honesty it hurts a lot some times when I walk. But I am certainly not ready to just live life in a glass house. I have been lucky as far as the racing thing goes with only a broken shoulder and torn rotator cuff that needed surgery that both healed very quickly back in 2008. I have crashed a few times but mostly just falls in the turns which don't hurt...much. I too grew up on a dairy farm so I too know what work is. Spent 49 years working at least 10 hrs. a day standing/walking on concrete floors. I have lost 2 inches on my height from deteriorating discs in my back thus the sciatic problems. My hands and shoulders hurt a lot and my knuckles are all swollen. Even after all those old age problems and having x-rays, MRI's, PT, and $4000 chiropractic back therapy the doctors tell me to do whatever I want with the only condition being if it hurts then stop doing it. The important thing they tell me is keep doing what I am doing a KEEP MOVING. With that all being said...I am thrilled to know that I still ride motocross and on old motorcycles that young riders won't touch with a 10 foot pole. No i am no longer fast or even competitive but surprisingly if I just keep chugging along and finish the race I seem to end up way higher in the finish order than I had anticipated just because I survived to the end when half of the riders did not. And that makes it worth living to enter the next race. No sir, you can have your trials bike or no Motorbike at all if you are so damned worried about getting hurt. THAT my friend is when you DO get hurt.
I'm 77 and started riding again last year after a long time without a MC. Let me tell you, riding is still as much of a pleasure it used to be, but I had no idea how much muscle tone you need to ride in dirt. I bought a dirt bike, a Honda "tractor", and I haven't even done a wheelie on it, much less jump it.
great content. I am looking to get my first trials bike, been riding street and dual sports for the last 30 years. Which do you like better, the GasGas or Beta?
They are different machines and both are great bikes. My thoughts on both bikes are this:
Beta rides great and has the sharpest full lock turn radius. I like the feel of the clutch better on the Beta. The Beta is easier to perform normal maintenance on (air filter change, oil change, etc). The Beta starts on the first kick every time.
Gas Gas is easier to balance and the clutch feels smoother, but I still prefer the Beta clutch. The Gas Gas provides a better sense of confidence dropping off steep stuff. I've figured out a starting technique that gets the Gas Gas running on the first of second kick, so starting is not an issue with me.
While they are slightly different I plan to use the Beta for trials events and use the Gas Gas for my daily riding/training bike. That is based on my total time on each bike. Beta = 60 hours and Gas Gas =12 hours.
@@twowheelgeriatric Thank you for the feedback. A local dealer has a '23 gas gas txt gp and another has a '22 beta evo factory that I am trying to decide between and see who will give me the better deal.
Im 59 and frustrated before I even start. I'm not a big guy! 134 pounds and 5"7" and I bought a new Gas Gas txt 300. I had it delivered last day of July and to this day in November I haven't ever got it started. I know it's right! I know it's not the bike because the salesman started it in 2: kicks and a 74 year old buddy of mine who has the same exact bike starts it no problem. I've been riding dirt bikes since the 70s and never had this problem in my life! I bought an S3 low compression cylinder head and insert to lower the compression but haven't installed it yet. I feel bad taking the bike apart because it's brand new. Do you think the lower compression head will help me? My only other option is to try to sell it and look for a 200 cc or something smaller? Is that option make sense? I just don't know what to do. I spent all that money and so far only sat in a lawn chair looking at it. And watching my buddy ride it. Honestly what would you do? I appreciate any advice. Really I welcome comments.
I can't even imagine the frustration. If something like that befell me, this is what I'd do:
1) Install the S3 low compression head and give that a try. If it works great. If it does not work then,
2) Sell the Gas Gas, you should be able to get a decent price.
3) Buy a TRS with an electric start. If that is too expensive, then
4) Go to a dealer and see if they'll let you kick start whatever model you are considering. If they want to sell, I imagine they'd do that.
Good luck.
When I bought my GasGas a few weeks ago, I couldn't get it started either. The GasGas is more difficult to kick than the beta for sure. But TWG has given me some good feedback on getting it started. This has helped me and it is usually only one to two kicks to get started.
1. If cold start, gas on, choke on
2. Engage the Kickstarter until it has strong resistance from the top (start position).
3. Open the throttle just barely off closed and hold the position
4. Swift hard kick
5. Repeat if needed
This works great for me and TWG.
As a novice trials rider it is best to start with a 125 or 200 bike, the 300 is way too much bike, even a 250 has more than you can use as a novice...........in trials LESS is MORE x500 fold......................125 has plenty of power and is way more controllable and accurate
066MX, sell the 300 or trade it for a 125. You will have more fun than a barrel of monkeys!
P.S. I am similar in age, weight & height as you. I remember my 350cc Ducati hillclimb bike nearly sending me over the handlebars while kicking it over when I was in high school.
Hey @066motocross what about an update. What did you decide to do? I hope whatever you decided, you are out riding.
Looks like Camelback Mtn in the background.
I think Camelback Mtn is in AZ. I'm in UT.
Are there any clubs in So Cal where you can rent a bike for a day?
Perhaps Motoventures in San Diego
Trials bikes are surely the ultimate adventure bikes for old people. Very docile and well behaved in the rough stuff, but slow and not street legal. If you can have your adventure exploring the back woods behind your house, then go for it 👍
You need good knees to ride a Trials bike - I had a twin shock Ossa, so I should know. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Get some balance in your life, ride a trials bike!
I live in Salt Lake City and have a house in Torrey Utah near Loa. I am looking at getting a trials bike. Are there places to ride close to Salt Lake that don’t require a lot of driving? Is the area in Loa private land or BLM land that is open to trials riding? Are there many in Utah that ride trials? Thanks for any info.
Check out this link to see the participation of Utah Moto Trials Association, utahmototrials.com/
Elberta UT seems to be a favorite among SLC trials riders, I haven't been there yet, but plan to compete on November 11th.
Yes the Loa area is on BLM land. Near Heber is "Granny's Ranch" it is private land, but open to members of the UMTA.
I live in southern UT so I'm not an expert on SLC riding areas.
No 1 reason is it’s big fun!!!!
I can't argue with that
bravo😊
That is so cool
Thanks
Which TXT is that you own?
A 2023 TXT Racing 300, not the TXT GP.
@@twowheelgeriatric
I'm still fairly new to riding but have a few years under my belt. Current bike is a KLX300 with some basic suspension modifications. I love it. Looking to get a trials bike to hone in some skills. Do you find a 300 to be too snappy for a beginners trials bike??
I've been looking at 125s and 250s...but there's soooo many more 300s out there or so it seems
@@zacharyhart7025 I've been told by quite a few people that a 300 is too much for a new trials rider. I got one anyway and I'm happy with it.
My friend, Josh, who rides a lot with me went with a 250 and loves it.
I'm hesitant to recommend or suggest what one should get. I can only say I'm happy with what I have and don't regret it.
Sorry for the wishy washy answer.
I wish they were that cheap in California 😢
And reason number six - to meet your old friends on the orthopaedic ward! ; )
Something very odd is happening here.. I commented on this video, you responded, and now it (comment and response) is on a Trial Tube video???
That is weird. Send me the video title and I'll push it forward to YT folks.
@@twowheelgeriatric do you rememeber my comment? "Reason #6, give you more confidence on your other bikes" Paraphrased.. your response "That's the one!" ..
Trial Tube video "Best Honda TRL's you've ever seen Classic Bike Review" I watched that video (a week ago??) but commented on your video within hours of you posting??
@@mikecollins8241 Yes, that is odd as there is no connection between me and Trial Tube.
@@twowheelgeriatric do you remember this??
How old are you if I might ask?
64
STUD 👊
trials is allot of fun but rocks are no fun
The challenge IS the fun! Think of it like a cowboy riding a mountain goat.
@@AutoCrete yea well goats can get back up bikes often fall hard to get up and leak fuel sometimes
"For Old People Only"
Me (old dude): What are you insinuating?
*watches video*
Me: Ok, I see. Now get off my lawn!
👍
My wife didn't buy it.
Hmmm. I'll have to ask some of the married guys on what might influence a wife. Maybe I'll try another angle 🙂
Yeah, but sadly only retired boomers can afford a new bike !
In Germany & Austria there is a large used market for Gasgas, Beta, Montesa, Ossa etc. for little money.
If you really want a new one, consider buying a model from last year and if you start with trial, buy an old one.😃
@@Dutch58 Yeah buy a vintage bike. there are quite a few Bultaco Sherpa T's still around for sale in the $1500 to $3000 price range. Still lots of parts available for them new and used.
For old people only I’m 56. Act your age. Ride what I do- 1985 ATC250R. Trail Bikes are for kids. ATCs scare adults and kids. Ever gone sideways thru a turn at over 35 mph? Get One.
Why not just get an ebike? More excercise, no noise and no dirty fumes.
some people like the sound and fumes ;)
Why not both?
It's the challenge. More exercise? Nope. Have you ever ridden dirt? It is a proper workout, very intensive. The sounds and fumes are glorious, nothing compares to a 2 stroke. I doubt you would get that either. Me thinks you done missed the point.
@@dan1906 The only sport more physically demanding than moto cross is rugby. I have lost 12 lbs of sweat in a 5 hour off road ride.
@@AutoCrete Properly true. I have lost 5 lbs in a stock car, small time Saturday night short track stuff, in 1 hour. Arguable how much was stress, and how mush was effort. I think people underestimate the intensity of motorsports.
A bicycle would be much better.
To each their own.
Based on what? What is your experience?
@@dan1906 My experience of having to listen to loud noises when I don't want to.
Or breathe idiotic pollution just because of someone's hobby.
@@clacclackerson3678 what exactly is "idiotic pollution"? What specifically makes a type of pollution idiotic?
Get a MOuntain Bike, and some exercise at the same time. What happens when an old man falls off and breaks a bone - it's not good !
You can see my two mountain bikes at the start of the video. The same thing happens when an old man breaks a bone whether on the trials bike or the mountain bike. It hurts and takes a while to heal.
Bones can be broken on mountain bikes also , ( I've ridden / raced bicycles and motocross regardless of age .)
Nice area to play in
Trials in Illinois are just flat trails in Illinois and we have to pay everywhere to ride because everything is privately owned. Maybe when I retire and leave Illinois, I will look into this, seems like fun, although I’d be wearing a lot more protective gear. Reality says I will crash a lot.