Gankers can body block any invader seeking to punish someone refilling, making it both difficult and unattractive as an option to even try. Whereas, if an invader feels like refilling after encountering something wonky, they gotta somehow put distance between themselves and a whole gank. This is part of why being in a gank equates to being in "easy" mode, plus access to a few exclusive glitch options.
19:55 LOL the clueless Aldrich usually must be ganking, first time i see that; it's better to be in both sides separated as invaders, but, nope he want his buddy close XD. Surprisingly he did well at the end
It's probably instinct or subconscious response. You feel safer with a buddy nearer, and less like you can get double-teamed at any moment. That's also why he's playing Aldritch, to have a teammate. He likely hasn't encountered the explanation that surrounding the enemy gives more opportunities than sitting near each other
As Amish said in a video a little bit ago gankers are learning how to refill and estus cancel before they even learn the basics. Elden ring can't come soon enough
Saw it on stream. Let's forget the noobs that learns 1st how to glitch and later or never how to get good and focus at the gameplay. Amazing invasion, 0 mistakes. The stamina estus etc. Management was remarkable.
Would be cool if invader got the same buffs as PvE gets when there are summons in the world. At least it would even out the playing field a little bit.
Would be amazing if there was an AoE spell that set up a barrier locking an invader and 1 phantom/host in a circle for 1-2 minutes of alone time, gankers would fall like snowflakes
Find this video cause i follow you from elden ring, even if i always play these games never care about the pvp until ER came out and i gotta thank you to make me learn how to proper play the pvp. Thank you so much. P.s. these was 25 minutes of pure masochism pleasure 🤣
someone in chat said that if u 2 hand the chimes WA it regens more i think it was only having it on the main hand but maybe they should watch that limit breaker video about regen 8)
G9 I want to know your opinion on refill, I know for you when gankers refill, you start using murky and refill, but what about machine gun? Do you think that's justified against someone that is refilling?
He almost definitely does not. I’m pretty sure he only considers bowglitching for people who either already are or are so incredibly laggy that you can’t feasibly play against them.
why just gankers?! every invaders at pontiff r refill now even againts pvers ganks so it's in both side u should say most of players at pontiff now refill
@@N8Bakka honestly if you can't win with 6 estus 10 sig and a divine bless you are just trash at game , people refill cause their fragile ego can't handle a lost, do not complain about refill if you are the first one who does that
@@N8Bakka It really depends, I've been refilled upon many times during solo DF runs, as I'm going through the PVE. Reds still run away and refill on me. It's definitely not the majority, but a larger minority than I'd like to see. Mostly they're bad players, though not always.
@@tryless3530I’m a little late but your statement is absurd. If you run out of estus and siegs against a gank you’re not a bad player. A host can infinitely resummon and already has twice your estus. If you’re facing let’s say 3 people, and you’ve outplayed them again and again, but by the nature of ganking they chip you down, and every time one of them dies they resummon, then yeah I wouldn’t expect 10 siegs and 6 estus to last like a fucking hour or two. What you’re basically saying is that in a ganking situation a “good” player simply wouldn’t get hit much if at all. This is impossible. As time goes on you’re bound to get hit by the three or even four people chasing you sometime. No way you can say with a straight face that Jee isn’t a good player, yet even he gets chipped and chipped while ganks don’t have to care about taking chip damage because they can always be resummoned or covered for their mistakes by their team. Plus most of the time it is not unlikely an invader gets more than chipped. You can make mistakes and still be a good player. After all it only takes one mistake to either have tears popped or even die, a mistake your opponents have doubtlessly made ten times over by that point. Such an endurance imbalance is especially true if you’re facing 3 glitching dragon bros or something equally bullshit. In short if an invader uses all 6 estus and 10 siegs to get through over 50 or so chugs by the opponent, that doesn’t mean the invader is bad. There can be numerous situations and reasons why you can’t finish someone off after you’ve outplayed them when facing a gank. Hence the refill to try further equal the resources of your opponents, not counting the two or three teammates they have and embered health. When you have every disadvantage losing a bit is expected, and so is using lots of estus over a long period of time.
"bro invaders can refill because is Faìr gAmè, but if you gank don't do it" this made to think is just toxic, invader or ganker if you refill you are just a loser and its not healty for the game you guys spend so many hours on it
If people started playing honest then the game would be more enjoyable, literal pixels on the screen for no real reward. Why tf do you need an edge to not lose in something that doesn’t matter too much. Fuckin glitchers
In the 1st place honesty means no resummon,125,no refill and goes on but gankers brake the rules by only resummoning and playing 150 minimum. Don't forget that they refilling 1st cause of the advantage of friendly fire they have stick together host and phantom and the 3rd hides and refill while the other 2 are passive. We should not carry on the conversation there is not point with all the advantages and what the story until now showed. Anyone that still thinks that invaders are the toxic ones need glasses.
Gankers can body block any invader seeking to punish someone refilling, making it both difficult and unattractive as an option to even try. Whereas, if an invader feels like refilling after encountering something wonky, they gotta somehow put distance between themselves and a whole gank. This is part of why being in a gank equates to being in "easy" mode, plus access to a few exclusive glitch options.
19:55 LOL the clueless Aldrich usually must be ganking, first time i see that; it's better to be in both sides separated as invaders, but, nope he want his buddy close XD.
Surprisingly he did well at the end
It's probably instinct or subconscious response. You feel safer with a buddy nearer, and less like you can get double-teamed at any moment. That's also why he's playing Aldritch, to have a teammate. He likely hasn't encountered the explanation that surrounding the enemy gives more opportunities than sitting near each other
@@Rakshael yeah, actually is only a noob thing in the game, but it's totally normal to think in that way at first. You right
That was a nice one, and props to the Aldrich.
As Amish said in a video a little bit ago gankers are learning how to refill and estus cancel before they even learn the basics. Elden ring can't come soon enough
FUNNY as fuck reading comments like this after seeing how elden ring pvp turned out
@@subhell I miss ds3 😭
😂 lmao
This comment must be like what people in 1938 hoped about 1939
Illd rather get bowglitched in ds3 then ever invade elden ring :( its sad man
Saw it on stream. Let's forget the noobs that learns 1st how to glitch and later or never how to get good and focus at the gameplay. Amazing invasion, 0 mistakes. The stamina estus etc. Management was remarkable.
9:43 2v1 and they can't aggro at all.
Would be cool if invader got the same buffs as PvE gets when there are summons in the world. At least it would even out the playing field a little bit.
This is y I learned refuel because of these situations and there becoming more constant.
Would be amazing if there was an AoE spell that set up a barrier locking an invader and 1 phantom/host in a circle for 1-2 minutes of alone time, gankers would fall like snowflakes
You just created the worst gankers/runners nightmare. Wonderful idea dude, this made my day
That would be the Warmth Spell. The tiny moth brains of gankers cannot resist it
Find this video cause i follow you from elden ring, even if i always play these games never care about the pvp until ER came out and i gotta thank you to make me learn how to proper play the pvp. Thank you so much. P.s. these was 25 minutes of pure masochism pleasure 🤣
wow, it was like dramathic movie)
someone in chat said that if u 2 hand the chimes WA it regens more i think it was only having it on the main hand but maybe they should watch that limit breaker video about regen 8)
What was the gist of the limit breaker vid?
@@ghorstbusters6238 i think it was about maximum health regen
I love your titles on these videos, and the thumbnails lol
You didn’t point him down after that? You’re so nice
Since ledo is such a good wakeup, i don't really understand why you swap it out after popping tears with ledo riposte
G9 I want to know your opinion on refill, I know for you when gankers refill, you start using murky and refill, but what about machine gun? Do you think that's justified against someone that is refilling?
He almost definitely does not. I’m pretty sure he only considers bowglitching for people who either already are or are so incredibly laggy that you can’t feasibly play against them.
21:31
Wtf am I seeing! That bs was one of the most whack things I've ever seen in this game hands down.
Only way trash gankers can do the little they do
17:13 lmao
Doesn’t even look like a human touching the controller. I understand why you call everyone shitters.
I love the titles
Wow you are so pro!
This why i keep ledos on me alllll the time
Why wouldn't you refill when it's so easy! I don't approve of it and there is supposed to be sarcasm there, but none the less, good shit g9
If you see this kinda shit just leave not worth
why just gankers?! every invaders at pontiff r refill now even againts pvers ganks so it's in both side u should say most of players at pontiff now refill
It’s usually used to counter excessive resummons since an estus refill is almost equivalent to reinvading.
@@N8Bakka sadly now no one care if u resummons they just want to win whatever cost
@@N8Bakka honestly if you can't win with 6 estus 10 sig and a divine bless you are just trash at game , people refill cause their fragile ego can't handle a lost, do not complain about refill if you are the first one who does that
@@N8Bakka It really depends, I've been refilled upon many times during solo DF runs, as I'm going through the PVE. Reds still run away and refill on me. It's definitely not the majority, but a larger minority than I'd like to see. Mostly they're bad players, though not always.
@@tryless3530I’m a little late but your statement is absurd. If you run out of estus and siegs against a gank you’re not a bad player. A host can infinitely resummon and already has twice your estus. If you’re facing let’s say 3 people, and you’ve outplayed them again and again, but by the nature of ganking they chip you down, and every time one of them dies they resummon, then yeah I wouldn’t expect 10 siegs and 6 estus to last like a fucking hour or two.
What you’re basically saying is that in a ganking situation a “good” player simply wouldn’t get hit much if at all. This is impossible. As time goes on you’re bound to get hit by the three or even four people chasing you sometime. No way you can say with a straight face that Jee isn’t a good player, yet even he gets chipped and chipped while ganks don’t have to care about taking chip damage because they can always be resummoned or covered for their mistakes by their team. Plus most of the time it is not unlikely an invader gets more than chipped. You can make mistakes and still be a good player. After all it only takes one mistake to either have tears popped or even die, a mistake your opponents have doubtlessly made ten times over by that point. Such an endurance imbalance is especially true if you’re facing 3 glitching dragon bros or something equally bullshit.
In short if an invader uses all 6 estus and 10 siegs to get through over 50 or so chugs by the opponent, that doesn’t mean the invader is bad. There can be numerous situations and reasons why you can’t finish someone off after you’ve outplayed them when facing a gank. Hence the refill to try further equal the resources of your opponents, not counting the two or three teammates they have and embered health. When you have every disadvantage losing a bit is expected, and so is using lots of estus over a long period of time.
"bro invaders can refill because is Faìr gAmè, but if you gank don't do it"
this made to think is just toxic, invader or ganker if you refill you are just a loser and its not healty for the game you guys spend so many hours on it
yes dude gankers and invaders are totally on an equal playing field
Get a clue, dont refill for no reason, invader or ganker
If people started playing honest then the game would be more enjoyable, literal pixels on the screen for no real reward. Why tf do you need an edge to not lose in something that doesn’t matter too much. Fuckin glitchers
In the 1st place honesty means no resummon,125,no refill and goes on but gankers brake the rules by only resummoning and playing 150 minimum.
Don't forget that they refilling 1st cause of the advantage of friendly fire they have stick together host and phantom and the 3rd hides and refill while the other 2 are passive. We should not carry on the conversation there is not point with all the advantages and what the story until now showed. Anyone that still thinks that invaders are the toxic ones need glasses.
If the host keeps resummoning nonstop and plays very passively then there is good reason to refill