The CZ's deign w/ internal rails can handle MUCH more than the T 33... They made it compatible with the HOT LOADS they used in the Sub guns... Czech 'TOK" rounds are MUCH hotter than Commercial rounds... If the "Components" were as tuff as the GUN ... Like firing pins and springs etc... It would survive ANYTHANG
He definitely is increasing the chamber pressure by probably a dangerous amount and judging by your comment you probably know that he is fire forming those cases from all that pressure which means it is drastically exceeding pressure because the casings he is using are correct but the bullets aren't so in order for those two fire form or stretch in any way is very dangerous to the shooter still a cool concept but I wouldn't ruin the barrel on a nice shape old CZ like that I've always wanted one and it kills me to see it being abused lol I am not sure how hard they are to get ahold of nowadays but about fifteen years ago I could have picked one up in just as good if not better shape than that a local gun store and they only wanted $175 which I kick myself in the ass for to this day for not buying it it was on sale for 250 and I got the pawnshop owner to drop it to 175 but back then even though it wasn't too far back surplus was way easy and cheap to find now it's exactly the opposite I bought an old nagant a from Big 5 many years ago about 15 or 20 years ago as well and I got that out the door for just under a hundred bucks after taxes and background fees and someone recently purchased it from me at a gun store for $600 and he also gave me a cheap little 22 citadel for my son to plink around with totally worth it to see my son's face and the fact it had a pistol grip and mounting rails so he was able to put a fore grip on it and a red dot sight for as cheap and as light as it is it is actually a very functional 22 semi-auto that purchase / trade dad came out on top big-time still miss my mosin though it was definitely one heavy piece of steel and wood
@@jpb1231000 Firing pins are fragile. Cast steel and brittle. IF you don't believe me, dry fire it a few dozen times till it breaks. Roller locks are hollow and soft. Herrington products makes tool steel firing pins with rebound springs, and solid rollers for the lock. Much better steel in both.
@@debi5292 I agree... That was in my statement... Not harrington specifically, but I know of them. I have a 5 pack of firing pins from chech mate... If they used good steel originally It's robust as hell..
From someone who experimented with the 7.62X25 a lot back in the 90s, it uses ~.308" projectiles like the 7.62 Nagant. So use .308" projectiles to tinker with. The 7.62X39 is .310". And the 7.62X54R is .311". Neither are well suited for the 7.62X25.
Something else to be wary of is surplus Bulgarian 7.62X25. There is a bad lot out there ☆ 10 53, that causes CZ-52s to go boom. I've lost one CZ-52 to it. The projectiles are over-crimped, mushrooming the base. Makes them well over .310". The CZ-52 is nowhere near as robust as the Tokarev pistol. Lucky you didn't blow yours up. Though that last round, looked like the case cracked at the head. Lucky.
Good to know. I was using it as I have a small amount in my massive stash of 7.62 and given mixed results id run that in the cz. Though the guns been still struggling with the hard primers so its not a bad idea to use something else anyways.
Cz52 notorious for cracked frames! So be careful with increased chamber pressure on a firearm thats possibly faulty? But I've always wondered how this round would do with rifle projectiles myself?
I think it was 7.2-8.0 gr of AA5. I dont exactly remember if thats what I went off of but its from the same site (Makarov.com) that Ive always used for this cartridge. They got some other powders listed for it too
This is why is good to carry a black powder ram rod for when you do something stupid like this... Guys, the gun in not inaccurate, its the ammo, there was very little quality control when making military ammo back in the day. Mines a tack driver with current ammo. Dont believe or state what you dont know unless you have one..
Id venture more to say its me and not the ammo. And the funny thing is I did have a clearing rod but the amount of force it was taking to remove the case caused me to get a more sturdy screwdriver because the rod was really starting to bend
Your may have buggered up the roller locking system. The lock in a T33 tokarev is a stronger system. you can go 110 grain bullets in the T33. But 150 gr in a CZ52. Likely you were getting set back of that long bullet when chambering that protruding bullet. Just plain dumb.
I'm surprised you ha vent killed or maimed yourself!!!!! Tell me, the Mosin bullets, were they engaging the rifling when fully chambered??? That would dramatically spike your pressures. And since I don't know your power type and load, I won't even hazard to guess if your charge was to high.
This is a fine firearm. You SHOULD NOT BE ABUSING IN like you are.
What a clown!
You’re probably inadvertently creating a much higher chamber pressure by forcing a heavier projectile out.
Oh yeah definitely. Idk if you watched till the end but gasses look like they bled through the primer and the case swelled
The CZ's deign w/ internal rails can handle MUCH more than the T 33... They made it compatible with the HOT LOADS they used in the Sub guns...
Czech 'TOK" rounds are MUCH hotter than Commercial rounds...
If the "Components" were as tuff as the GUN ... Like firing pins and springs etc... It would survive ANYTHANG
He definitely is increasing the chamber pressure by probably a dangerous amount and judging by your comment you probably know that he is fire forming those cases from all that pressure which means it is drastically exceeding pressure because the casings he is using are correct but the bullets aren't so in order for those two fire form or stretch in any way is very dangerous to the shooter still a cool concept but I wouldn't ruin the barrel on a nice shape old CZ like that I've always wanted one and it kills me to see it being abused lol I am not sure how hard they are to get ahold of nowadays but about fifteen years ago I could have picked one up in just as good if not better shape than that a local gun store and they only wanted $175 which I kick myself in the ass for to this day for not buying it it was on sale for 250 and I got the pawnshop owner to drop it to 175 but back then even though it wasn't too far back surplus was way easy and cheap to find now it's exactly the opposite I bought an old nagant a from Big 5 many years ago about 15 or 20 years ago as well and I got that out the door for just under a hundred bucks after taxes and background fees and someone recently purchased it from me at a gun store for $600 and he also gave me a cheap little 22 citadel for my son to plink around with totally worth it to see my son's face and the fact it had a pistol grip and mounting rails so he was able to put a fore grip on it and a red dot sight for as cheap and as light as it is it is actually a very functional 22 semi-auto that purchase / trade dad came out on top big-time still miss my mosin though it was definitely one heavy piece of steel and wood
@@jpb1231000 Firing pins are fragile. Cast steel and brittle. IF you don't believe me, dry fire it a few dozen times till it breaks. Roller locks are hollow and soft. Herrington products
makes tool steel firing pins with rebound springs, and solid rollers for the lock. Much better steel in both.
@@debi5292 I agree... That was in my statement... Not harrington specifically, but I know of them.
I have a 5 pack of firing pins from chech mate...
If they used good steel originally It's robust as hell..
From someone who experimented with the 7.62X25 a lot back in the 90s, it uses ~.308" projectiles like the 7.62 Nagant. So use .308" projectiles to tinker with.
The 7.62X39 is .310". And the 7.62X54R is .311". Neither are well suited for the 7.62X25.
Yeah luckily I happen to have a sizer die to size down my bullets to proper size.
Something else to be wary of is surplus Bulgarian 7.62X25. There is a bad lot out there ☆ 10 53, that causes CZ-52s to go boom. I've lost one CZ-52 to it. The projectiles are over-crimped, mushrooming the base. Makes them well over .310".
The CZ-52 is nowhere near as robust as the Tokarev pistol. Lucky you didn't blow yours up. Though that last round, looked like the case cracked at the head. Lucky.
Good to know. I was using it as I have a small amount in my massive stash of 7.62 and given mixed results id run that in the cz. Though the guns been still struggling with the hard primers so its not a bad idea to use something else anyways.
Cz52 notorious for cracked frames! So be careful with increased chamber pressure on a firearm thats possibly faulty? But I've always wondered how this round would do with rifle projectiles myself?
Mosin is .311 for the bullet. Actual bore diameter varies pretty wildly
Would you be inclined to share the 110 load data?
I think it was 7.2-8.0 gr of AA5. I dont exactly remember if thats what I went off of but its from the same site (Makarov.com) that Ive always used for this cartridge. They got some other powders listed for it too
That round was originally called the 7.62 WHISPER
Whisper is a 21mm long case, this is 25mm.
Not to mention this round is so much older than any of the Whisper cartridges.
The roller lock, like lever delayed system is extremely sensitive to changes in 'recoil impulse
damn, instant sub, that is some creative idea
Saw this advertised on ifunny, finna be a banger
Bro did 7.62 mosin blackout 😂😂😂😂
Ah yes, superhuman speed 7.62x54r
Every time I shoot the tokarev pistols, including the Cz-52, it shoots low.
Like my cz 52, very accurate 👍
Take the grips off first if you're going to use a vise to hold it.
This is why is good to carry a black powder ram rod for when you do something stupid like this... Guys, the gun in not inaccurate, its the ammo, there was very little quality control when making military ammo back in the day. Mines a tack driver with current ammo. Dont believe or state what you dont know unless you have one..
Id venture more to say its me and not the ammo. And the funny thing is I did have a clearing rod but the amount of force it was taking to remove the case caused me to get a more sturdy screwdriver because the rod was really starting to bend
how the hell you fit the bullet in the gun?????
with my fingers
Warsaw pact sights. Not made for accuracy, but it is still the fault of the Czech designer. By the time of the CZ75 problem solved.
Maybe do discarding sabot rounds next?
Bad idea. ROUND BALL. Might need a sabot or wad or something tho.
hell yeah!!
Can we get much higher?
Maybe...
Your may have buggered up the roller locking system. The lock in a T33 tokarev is a stronger system. you can go 110 grain bullets in the T33. But 150 gr in a CZ52. Likely you were getting set back of that long bullet when chambering that protruding bullet.
Just plain dumb.
Ps this round is a beast loaded with p+ hollow points!
Aren't you made a Mozarev by that action of yours?
A what?
@@_Scipio__Africanus_ Mosin+tokarev=Mosarev 😉
are you 5"2
nah 9'5". Im a Nephilim in hiding, don't tell anyone.
@@_Scipio__Africanus_ r u the g3 kid from ifunny that everyone made fun of
@@scronk4486 yuh
@@_Scipio__Africanus_ 💀
I'm surprised you ha vent killed or maimed yourself!!!!! Tell me, the Mosin bullets, were they engaging the rifling when fully chambered??? That would dramatically spike your pressures. And since I don't know your power type and load, I won't even hazard to guess if your charge was to high.
Brha
.311