Build a Low Power, Efficient, Small Form Factor but Powerful Proxmox Server

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  • Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
  • Have you been thinking about building a low power, efficient, small form factor but performant Proxmox server? This is the perfect home server build for anyone who wanted to virtualize some machines while still staying green. This tiny, silent, and efficient build is one that won't drive up your electricity bill either.
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  • @TechnoTim
    @TechnoTim  2 года назад +29

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    • @teachonlywhatiseasy
      @teachonlywhatiseasy 2 года назад +1

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    • @DaPanda19
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    • @jaygreentree4394
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    • @Hydraulix
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    • @jaygreentree4394
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  • @daveopsnl
    @daveopsnl 2 года назад +127

    I took 5 nucs from work that were decommisioned. from 2017, upgraded the ram and threw in a 1TB nvme ssd m.2 disk in all of them, has been running in a Proxmox cluster happily ever after :).

    • @TechnoTim
      @TechnoTim  2 года назад +11

      Happy little nodes!

    • @chefbennyj
      @chefbennyj 2 года назад +3

      Yup! I've done that with a bunch of decommission dells that were going to go in the trash. I said: "you're going to do what??". They had i3s in them. Yeah they weren't great, but they weren't even going to strip them down. 🤯

    • @marine1718
      @marine1718 2 года назад +1

      5? Isn't that to much?

    • @jaygreentree4394
      @jaygreentree4394 2 года назад +2

      @@marine1718 One can never have too many.

    • @marine1718
      @marine1718 2 года назад

      @@jaygreentree4394 if u pay for energy it is

  • @bizanks27
    @bizanks27 2 года назад +65

    It takes a truely brave man to put his mom on Linux

    • @pulpitz
      @pulpitz 2 года назад +6

      Better setup vnc. Admit it, you just miss your mom and you want her to call you more often

    • @TechnoTim
      @TechnoTim  2 года назад +8

      This will be one giant experiment but her Windows machine stops working at least once a year.

    • @mrmotofy
      @mrmotofy 2 года назад +1

      I had mine move in with me...makes it super easy. She was on Linux 20yrs ago and liked it, cuz it just worked. She had Lindows. Only started back on windows after Dad died and she went to a "friend" for a laptop. In fact I still have both of their mini towers in my collection. My Dad would have a permanent grin on his face now hearing WIN can Linux inside it haha

    • @basdfgwe
      @basdfgwe Год назад +1

      My mum has been using Linux for maybe 5 years +, the most she does is online browsing, spread sheets, etc... Haven't had a single support call from her in those 5 years.

    • @PoetofHateSpeech
      @PoetofHateSpeech 10 месяцев назад

      My old cat was named Linux 😢

  • @gregorybers
    @gregorybers Год назад +10

    If you want to shave even more watts of those 24 watts you can do some tweaks in your nuc's bios
    - disable wifi if you do not use it
    - disable bluetooth if you do not use it
    - disable the sd card controller
    - disable front panel audio
    - disable front (yellow) usb always provide power
    this shaves off 3-4 watt
    now to make a real difference change the following settings in the bios:
    - set the power setting to balanced
    - disable turbo boost
    this shaves off another 5-7 watts
    my nucs run ~14-16 watt here. imho disabling wifi/bluetooth etc makes a lot of sense because those chips use power and you wont ever use this for your lab (unless its connected to wifi)
    Disabling turbo boost has no noticeable impact on performance, and i tested this both with proxmox and esxi. Even with 35 linux servers running on one nuc it just happily chugs along. Disabling turbo boost makes sure that your nuc remains cooler, and quieter. It also prevents the nuc spiking to 40 watt when fully boosting.

  • @YordisPrieto
    @YordisPrieto 2 года назад +4

    Thank you so much!
    I don’t have much time to figure these things out and I always wanted to wait until I buy a house to get some home stuff going, but I didn’t know such good tiny computers exists.
    Really appreciate your list and video. Brought me joy to know that I don’t need to wait much.

    • @TechnoTim
      @TechnoTim  2 года назад

      Yes! Exactly! Why wait when you can run a NUC today, then repurpose it later!

  • @jason-budney7624
    @jason-budney7624 2 года назад +8

    That's one nice little mini beast Tim! The NUCs can get pricey, but the used pc/server market is still a bit nuts. I just put my home lab back into commission, my Netgear router wasn't cutting it. So for now I'm running Proxmox with pfsense, pi-hole, and TrueNAS Core (Storage & Plex) VMs, all in a Meshify S2 case with a 3700x, 90GB RAM,.

  • @pringl3s
    @pringl3s Год назад +11

    Running Proxmox on a Nuc i5 paired with 32gb and it's super stable! I love my own little low consumption box. I've watched a lot of your videos and those inspired me to set up my own small server and i absolutely love it. Its running ubuntu/docker, home assistant and truenas. Cloudflare DNS proxy to acces my services, using nginx. All of this because of your videos. Thank you so much for teaching these vuluable skills!

    • @TechnoTim
      @TechnoTim  Год назад +1

      Awesome!

    • @IOX
      @IOX Год назад

      Question: NUC has M.2 and SSD capability. How would you segment the data of the different applications? e.g. What raid you pick for TrueNas, on which platform you install ubuntu etc.. I am on the fence to get either a NUC or a Proliant DL360 Gen9 (being the last option my divorce sentence). Thanks!

  • @TheJonathanc82
    @TheJonathanc82 2 года назад +2

    I love this video. I have been running proxmox on a fanless i7 mini pc for a year now. Love what it lets me do and how cheap it is to run. Also, no noise is a major plus.

  • @amp888
    @amp888 2 года назад +66

    Interesting video, but it'd be nice to include more info relating to cost and comparing power consumption to other systems. If, for example, it uses 1/3rd of the power of an R720 but cost so much that it would take 10+ years to recoup the investment then that should be taken into consideration. Obviously there are other differences (e.g. form factor, noise), but it would be nice to put some more info in for comparison.

    • @Frank-do1bg
      @Frank-do1bg 2 года назад +10

      @@jondoough but most of us don't get hardware for free

    • @TechnoTim
      @TechnoTim  Год назад +15

      @@jondoough let me know how you get hardware for free!

  • @conquerordie230
    @conquerordie230 2 года назад +1

    Low power and efficient builds are definitely a sight for sore eyes. Most reviewers only focus on what kind of performance you can get from the biggest and hottest (literally) chips out there. But as manufacturing nodes continue to get ever smaller, it's amazing what kind of services and things you can run on these tiny machines (same goes for Raspberry Pi's, etc.). Love the content Tim, keep it up!

    • @TechnoTim
      @TechnoTim  2 года назад

      Agreed! Thank you so much!

  • @Vluhd
    @Vluhd 2 года назад +50

    I love low power servers! My primary home server is actually running on a Pentium J5040 (which for anyone reading this, actually supports up to 32gb of RAM, not the 8gb Intel says!) and it runs great and even has integrated graphics for HWA Plex transcoding. Plus at idle it pulls less than 10w! I'd love to see more low power server videos!

    • @theglowcloud2215
      @theglowcloud2215 2 года назад +6

      Needs more exclamation points.

    • @Costel8294
      @Costel8294 Год назад +1

      how?in my j5040,not work 16 gb of RAM

    • @dc37009
      @dc37009 Год назад

      Yeah, how? plug n play, bios setting...YT home server build video ?

  • @theonenerdyguy
    @theonenerdyguy 2 года назад +3

    Currently running 5x Dell Optiplex 7060 USFF's as my Proxmox dev proxmox cluster at home. Each has a 1 TB NVME for bulk storage, 32g of ram, and 2x usb 3.x nics for secondary. 1 of them is setup for glusterFS replication of volumes, but the other two are in a LACP bond for vm data.
    Been solid.
    Prior to these, at an old job, I ran production Proxmox clusters for all vms, around 120 in total. This was hooked back to a pair of FreeNas boxes via 10g, that were doing a zfs send/recieve for hot/cold setup. This was prior to docker really taking off, around the proxmox 1.6 days. Miss that environment since moving on to new stuff.

    • @Doesntcompute2k
      @Doesntcompute2k 2 года назад

      I love the "baby Dells" and use them too for small cluster members, OPNsense, pxe servers, etc. Great boxes.

  • @electronicstv5884
    @electronicstv5884 Год назад +1

    Cool tiny server! I'm also really proud of the low power consumption of my Server. I have a Desktop HP with an i7-6700, 1 x NVMe, 1 x 2,5" SSD, 1 x 2,5" HDD, 1 x 3,5" HDD. It's running 2 VMs and at least 15 Containers 24/7 and using only 25W in idle. That's really incredible.

  • @dronebias
    @dronebias Год назад +5

    Great Vid Tim, I also run a ProXMoX server on a low power platform. I’ve setup my server on an old used Dell 7040m, 1TB m.2 for V-storage and a 2.5” SSD for the OS. It’s only a 35W CPU i7-6700T. It’s fantastic for home use. The small form factor is quite deceiving as it can sit on a shelf like a book.

  • @mblackonline1059
    @mblackonline1059 2 года назад

    Great video! Hope to be able to do something similar someday soon for a low powered and quiet homelab. Looking forward to more content.

  • @WaltSpence
    @WaltSpence 2 года назад

    Wow Tim have been subbed since the early days but took a break from YT. It's nice to see you growing. Always good stuff.

  • @plasmar1
    @plasmar1 2 года назад +2

    minor side note, in situations like a nuc in theory it is possible to get a msata to sata adapter as they are essentially sata + power in a mini pci-e form factor... not so much a solution for laptops/netbooks but maybe usable on larger machines

  • @lukasvagner
    @lukasvagner 2 года назад

    I love this kind of mini PCs...I´m running my Proxmox on HP Elitedesk 805 DM with Ryzen 3 Pro 4350GE, 32GB RAM, 1TB NVME 970 Evo and a couple of random 1TB and 500GB SSDs hooked up via USB...It's amazing how dense it is...it's like solid brick of pure and efficient performance. :D

  • @EusebioResende
    @EusebioResende 2 года назад +7

    Right on time video Tim. Was looking for a replacement for my noisy and power hungry HPE ML350 Gen9. Been watching some videos on SFF/1L desktop systems as an alternative. This solution looks amazingly good. Thanks for sharing. Cheers!

  • @rullywow3834
    @rullywow3834 2 года назад +5

    Great video Tim! Had a NUC7i7BNH doing this same Proxmox thing for a while but ran into trouble with the onboard NIC locking up/crashing after a while. Ended up using an external usb-c to Ethernet. Since have moved to a x470d4u with 3700x.

  • @l0gic23
    @l0gic23 2 года назад +5

    Hey Tim. Thanks for the vid. Would love a series on what you're doing with this. I also dream of setting my parents up with something like this that gives them local services and potentially ties back to my network for distributed and backup services.

    • @l0gic23
      @l0gic23 2 года назад

      So how's your mom doing with the old proxmox server? Can you fellow up with what you hooker her up with, how you remotely manage it, if your doing any site to site networking and how she is taking to the experience and use cases you setup?
      Also, maybe one of your one hundred days of homelab could be for your moms house - would be interesting to see what you change/add 6 months later

  • @techdad6135
    @techdad6135 2 года назад +3

    Excellent video! I've been running Ubuntu server on a NUC for a couple years now and just recently switched to Proxmox 7. I love Proxmox for it's ease of use and ability to manage VMs and containers. One issue though is that I've run into an issue with being able to pass a USB device through to a LXC container. I'd love it if you could do a video on this. Of course if it falls in line with the content your trying to put out.
    Thanks for all of your videos, I'm alway excited for the next release.

    • @davidkamaunu7887
      @davidkamaunu7887 10 месяцев назад +1

      I dont know if this may help you, but USB 3.0 is by default a storage device while USB 1.1/2.0 can be HID or other device. USB can be confusing as it is shared data and power.

  • @weiSane
    @weiSane Год назад +1

    This is exactly what I've been looking for. Subbed and I will work on my intel nuc soon too.

  • @Franchyze923
    @Franchyze923 2 года назад +1

    Love ProxMox and love Microcenter! Thanks for the video

  • @AsenGrozdanov
    @AsenGrozdanov 2 года назад

    Nice video, Tim, thank you. I am using NUC Hades Canyon for one of the nodes for my proxmox home lab for several years already. I will consider your choice as my second node there. Best

  • @alphabanks
    @alphabanks 2 года назад +6

    I also have an older nuc that I plan on installing KVM on. However, for me to get really serious about these I need dual 2.5 gig nics. For normal use one nic is fine by simply trunking it to a switch but for firewall configurations I need two nics.

    • @menno763
      @menno763 2 года назад

      Dual 1Gig would also be fine.

  • @PlanetaryDefenseFoundation
    @PlanetaryDefenseFoundation Год назад

    This is awesome exactly what I'm looking to do. Thanks for sharing

  • @Weirlive
    @Weirlive 2 года назад +3

    now that I'm thinking about LXC.... I might need a Proxmox host... I ditched my Dell servers for some more efficient AMD Ryzen boxes a few years ago and I'm super happy with it.

  • @just1689
    @just1689 2 года назад +3

    Very cool my dude. Would love to see some ideas for low power budget scalable NASs

  • @JasonsLabVideos
    @JasonsLabVideos 2 года назад +1

    You make such good content ! Keep it up Tim !!

  • @PheggasSVKVideos
    @PheggasSVKVideos 2 года назад +1

    I'm using small form factor PC as a server. Specifically, HP ProDesk 400 G4 Mini. Recently upgraded it from 8 GBs of RAM to 32 for exactly this purpose. I'm also going to attach PCIe riser/converter from M2 slot to normal PCIe. On there, i'll attach SATA controller for NAS capabilities. And yes, it will run TrueNAS VM inside it. For geeks, i prepared 2x 8TB IronWolf Pro, 2x 500 GB HDDs and 1x 250 GB SATA SSD for those VMs and also for cache.

  • @CyKoSyS
    @CyKoSyS 4 месяца назад

    Just a shout out to say thanks for all you do. You have a unique gift explaining technology and appreciate your videos and documentation. I hope the links you provided I used to purchase my own nuc kit helps your channel.

    • @TechnoTim
      @TechnoTim  4 месяца назад

      Thank you so much and yes, using the links does help me continue to do this!

  • @fotografm
    @fotografm 2 года назад +2

    Great video. I was really happy with my NUC i5 8th gen running proxmox until I maxed out CPU load on a VM to see what happens. The NUC did a thermal shutdown. Not a clean one - just powered off ! Obviously the cooling solution wasn't designed for such use...

  • @bliblabl8149
    @bliblabl8149 2 года назад

    I'm running an Intel nuc11 i5 with 64GB RAM and a Samsung 980 Pro NVME with Proxmox, 4 VMs and 5 LXCs for about half a year now. It's just great! I'm super happy with it.

  • @jonnypeace2810
    @jonnypeace2810 2 года назад +2

    I love the idea using a nuc for power consumption and plenty of power, but only a couple things i'm not sure about, but heard you mention pcie connections... i do like gpu passthrough, and ecc ram. Look forward to more videos with this NUC :)

  • @jimmyseptowardeny2351
    @jimmyseptowardeny2351 2 года назад

    I/O delay is a new knowledge that I gain from your video just now.
    Thanks for the mentioning things that we (especially me, from network engineer background) never pay attention to.

    • @TechnoTim
      @TechnoTim  2 года назад

      Thanks! I would have never noticed but etcd and sensitive to disk latency and if it weren't for kubernetes I never would have chased it down!

  • @zadekeys2194
    @zadekeys2194 2 года назад

    I use ProxMox on a Lenovo SFF i3 8th gen (4c4t), 16GB ddr 2400mhz, 128gb Sara sad, 256GB m.2 etc and it really does a great job for my home lab.

  • @BrunoGomes666
    @BrunoGomes666 Год назад

    Great video! I just bought a Lenovo ThinkCenter M90q with an i5 10500T (6 cores 12 threads) for real cheap (380 €). Those supposedly idle at 12W. I already installed Proxmox VE on it with a Debian container running Docker and Portainer, and more containers and virtual machines will follow. I own a dual Xeon server, but it's power usage is just too high, even at idle, so the little machine is ideal for 14/7 operation. Loved the video. Keep them coming! Cheers!
    Update: By the way, mine has an auto-on after power loss feature in the BIOS, which is great for a server.

  • @tiqo8549
    @tiqo8549 2 года назад

    I am running a 8th Gen Nuc for years. Only 25 watts peak with an I5 inside. Built in into a fanless case. I love those Nucs..

  • @djbusters
    @djbusters 2 года назад

    Its a great idea and been doing it for a while on pi. great content you are making. thanks for that. cheers.

  • @Boelgstoff
    @Boelgstoff Год назад +1

    In Germany, by many users a low power home server starts by 1.5W and ends by a maximum of 10W :D ...in Idle of corse. You had performe the measurement by booting up.
    I hope my Intel Nuc will be lower than 5W (N5105, 16 GB RAM, 0,5 - 1 TB SSD).
    But really nice video. I enjoyed it a lot.

  • @patrickpaganini
    @patrickpaganini Год назад

    Just about to do exactly the same - thanks for the pointers.

  • @raven7425
    @raven7425 2 года назад

    Well, i am in love with my NUC, got an i3 7100u NUC with 16gb of ram and a 2tb hdd, and conected with USB 2 more docking stations with 4 hdds in them of 2tb each, got a nextcloud server running on ZORIN OS in raidz2 (5x2tb hdds). My max power draw on ALL the equipment is around 30W, i could not believe that.

  • @TriLaVo
    @TriLaVo 2 года назад

    my whole Homelab is running on 2 Intel Nuc 10th Gen with an i7 and a 7th Gen i5 and it works great. I never thought that a homelab can be that cheap.

  • @kennethmadsen6474
    @kennethmadsen6474 2 года назад +14

    Intel NUCs are just great for home hypervisors. They, of course, lack large storage capacity, but if that's not a concern they're awesome.

    • @rullywow3834
      @rullywow3834 2 года назад +6

      Absolutely. Pair it with either external USB storage/iSCSI/NAS shares and it's a great way to start with hypervisors like Proxmox etc.

    • @jp_baril
      @jp_baril 2 года назад +3

      Hi @@rullywow3834. Could you elaborate on the possibilities of expanded store for NUCs? I was thinking of having one of the VMs to be the actual NAS. Thanks.

  • @joshharding6925
    @joshharding6925 2 года назад

    Great video Techno Tim. Makes me think about upgrading my 3 HP Elitedesk G1's

  • @stormfox81
    @stormfox81 2 года назад

    Im running Proxmox on a "HP ProDesk 400 G4 Mini" with 16GB Ram, 2TB storage, i5 7500T. I bought for 150 bucks. The best server I ever had

  • @Weapon7x
    @Weapon7x 2 года назад +1

    Personally I prefer the J4125. It is 4 cores and only 10 watts TDP. It won't run a super center, but for most people's needs, it is plenty of overhead for a handful of virtual servers and only 1/4 the electric bill at full load compared to this NUC. You are sacrificing a lot of power in comparison, but will save loads of money on both MSRP and electricity.

  • @lapptech
    @lapptech 2 года назад +2

    NUC's make for excellent small servers.
    I upgraded my server(s) a few weeks ago, went from an old Xeon 1230v3 with 32GB RAM and a Microserver Gen8 with 16GB RAM and 4x8TB HDD's to a new 10400F with 64GB RAM, 4x8TB drives + 2x16TB drives (for now) running Proxmox of an Kingston NV1 500GB NVME with TrueNAS Core as a VM and passing trough an LSI card for the drives and a LEMP server.
    More VM's will be added in time though.

    • @ste3191
      @ste3191 2 года назад

      Do you have a M.2 to PCIE riser cable?

    • @jp_baril
      @jp_baril 2 года назад

      Do I understand your new server is a NUC ? How is all that storage attached to the NUC ?

    • @lapptech
      @lapptech 2 года назад

      @@jp_baril No, it's not. I just said that NUC's makes great small servers.

  • @jeanvincent4977
    @jeanvincent4977 2 года назад

    I have a similar setup with my 8gen i7 nuc. I connected a 10 gbps thunderbolt3 network card from qnap and it's working great !

  • @diginomad6016
    @diginomad6016 2 года назад

    Good one. Loved it

  • @guyoninternet7015
    @guyoninternet7015 2 года назад +11

    Love the new homelab server! I just got 2 11th Gen NUCs to replace my old, power-hungry lab as well, love them!
    Does your Intel NUC offer a tdp-down mode? I got some custom NUCs from the guys at SimplyNUC and they have options for 15w, 25w and 40w in the BIOS. The 40w only got me about 15% better performance at the cost of a lot more fan noise, so I ended up sticking with 25... but I'm curious if the Intel branded one offers this and if they do a better job with cooling/noise at 40w?

  • @wayne6220
    @wayne6220 2 года назад +1

    Hi Tim, love your videos. Quick question, would you do a video on migrating VMs from a Virtual Box installation to Proxmox?

  • @bopal93
    @bopal93 2 года назад

    Recently got the i9 11gen version of this. Excited to migrate my bare metal servers to the i9 in proxmox environment. Thanks for the videos

  • @froid_san
    @froid_san 2 года назад

    I love low power draw home server, that why I started on a Raspberry pi, I need a bit cpu power for media streaming so running my home server now on a decommissioned thinkpad. I might go this route in the future.

  • @someguy0523
    @someguy0523 2 года назад

    Your videos are full of golden nuggets! Ventoy...this is a game changer for me thank you.

    • @TechnoTim
      @TechnoTim  2 года назад

      Happy to help! I have a video on that too!

  • @seans9168
    @seans9168 2 года назад +3

    That’s exactly what I did. Those Intel NUCs make outstanding Proxmox nodes! Two of them don’t even take up 1/4 of the space of my old Dell tower, and they are silent, and they barely draw on my UPS when I have a power hit, and I can throw one or two of them in my laptop case taking my entire development network with me when I go remote remote for extended periods of time. I reimagined my entire lab setup based on these little gems.

  • @nilskattenbeck6315
    @nilskattenbeck6315 2 года назад

    I bought a Mini-PC with the same CPU as in the i5 version of the Intel NUC (including some cheap 8G RAM + 128G SSD) for under 400€. It arrived friday and I will put it to the test this week.

  • @YYSilby
    @YYSilby 6 месяцев назад

    Such a brilliant video thank you!
    I have just done pretty much the same setup, what do you do with your M.2 ssd? Did you set it up as a zsf? What did you do in order to use it?

  • @bamhm182
    @bamhm182 2 года назад

    I have a handful of Dell Wyse thin clients with Proxmox installed. They're great for running various lightweight (or not) VMs that you want to be able to turn on/off independently

  • @ckirkyg
    @ckirkyg 2 года назад

    Im trying to figure out the requirements for a good storage setup for running unraid in a VM. I can setup an nvme drive (my board only has 1 m.2) for all my vms like you did and I already have exact same Samsung regular ssd for a promox drive. However, how do I handle cache drives for unraid? Do I have to pass through to the unraid vm directly or just share storage from existing nvme and part of another drive? Would I see a performance hit? Do I need to run the promox drives in raid one two matching or just be prepared to replace them? How impactful is the log writing on the promox drives in terms of longeticity as well

  • @aanset1
    @aanset1 Год назад

    Love it!

  • @TheMrDrMs
    @TheMrDrMs 2 года назад +1

    Pairs well with PiKVM in lieu of an IPMI. It's what I use for my non-server grade hardware.

  • @mlazzarotto
    @mlazzarotto 2 года назад

    I bought a refurbished Lenovo Tiny M93P from eBay. With just 8GB (up to 16G) of Ram is running just fine.
    I have both the OS and the VMs on a single 512GB SSD and I’m planning to add another 256GB SSD.

  • @ronm6585
    @ronm6585 2 года назад

    Thanks Tim. Looks like it should work out ok. Time will tell. 😊👍🏻

  • @errolnoralez8474
    @errolnoralez8474 2 года назад

    I love this. Can you demo a 3 node cluster? Using CEPH or External Storage or better yet both.

  • @fourex59
    @fourex59 2 года назад

    Tim, I enjoyed this video thoroughly. I have a question however is it possible to dual boot Proxmox and windows10?

  • @jonathankovler5712
    @jonathankovler5712 2 года назад

    Great Video - I would be interested in understanding how you passthrough the NUC graphics so that a Windows or Ubuntu desktop could use them please?

  • @JeanFrancoCaringi
    @JeanFrancoCaringi 2 года назад +1

    In fact: I turned down a Dell R320 and now my NUC8i3 is my main Proxmox server, it has 6 VM 24/7 (a win10 too!), I can't be happier!

  • @lolly20vn
    @lolly20vn Год назад

    Hello, thanks for the great guide. I have setup identical system in my homelab. Everything works great except I cannot passthrough the Tiger Lake GPU to my Windows VM. Do you have any solution so far?

  • @MarkConstable
    @MarkConstable 2 года назад

    GPU passthrough example for a LINUX (not Windows) VM would be great. Also, how would it go using ZFS mirror across both the NVMe and SSD, assuming the SSD was also 1 TB? I'm pretty sure it would work, but what about the discrepancy with r/w speeds between the drives? I find it hard to justify using Proxmox on a single drive.

  • @jacobpetersen9430
    @jacobpetersen9430 2 года назад +1

    Really great to see what intel nuc can achive.
    I wounder how effecient it could be with a p31 gold and some low power ram?
    Im planing to do a build my self i wanna see if using an unlocked cpu and a motherboard with great voltage control, if its possible to tweak things so you get below 10 watts idle and then having headrooom if or when you need the extra speed. But my use case is off grid solar so even 24 watts idle is a lot likley some linux optimastion and cron jobs to power cycle it can help but everything has its cons and pros :p

  • @merlingt1
    @merlingt1 2 года назад +1

    I am at this very moment re-purposing an older "low power" i5-4590S as a third node to my Proxmox cluster to run my low power but critical services like OpnSense, Pi-hole, etc. This allows me to shut off the Dell R710 and 720 when we have bad weather coming through but retain internet. I wish I could use a Nuc but I need the extra Ethernet ports.

    • @Doesntcompute2k
      @Doesntcompute2k 2 года назад +1

      After watching a lot of what Tim has done, I moved my "huge" Dell servers to secondary (like you) and put smaller, power-efficient (on a UPS!!!) boxes as primary. For all critical "production" services at home. Really makes a difference. An Ansible "shutdown the hogs" script takes care of fast shutdowns of all of the power-hungry when storms, tornadoes, vacations, etc., happen.

  • @237311
    @237311 Год назад

    Useful video. I want to get one of this but heard that the NIC on the NUC might not be compatible with the latest released versions of ESXi?

  • @denniskluytmans
    @denniskluytmans 2 года назад +3

    Very nice Tim! Would be great to see a tutorial on migrating a proxmox installation from ssd/hdd - nvme

    • @jyvben1520
      @jyvben1520 2 года назад

      does proxmox let you do a config backup ?
      if yes, just setup a new server, import config (hope it works) and then migrate from old to new.

    • @denniskluytmans
      @denniskluytmans 2 года назад

      @Jyv Ben unfortunately there isn't such a feature :( i also need it to be an exact clone of the original.
      Edit: you can backup VM's and the file system.

  • @randleqgod
    @randleqgod 2 года назад +2

    One day I will have a set up like this.

  • @RustemYeleussinov
    @RustemYeleussinov 6 месяцев назад

    Sorry for noob question. Do I need to partition new SSD before installing Proxmox or proper partitioning happens in the background during Proxmox installation?

  • @Patrick-qh2yf
    @Patrick-qh2yf 2 года назад

    Nice build and video!
    After I watched a diffrent video of you, I was inspired to run a Proxmox Server as well. Now I have a refubished Dell Optiplex 7040 micro with an i5-8500T and (only) 16 GB of ram which is running 3 CTs and 1 VM. :)

  • @MarkWyche
    @MarkWyche 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for this video. Your timing is great. I’m getting ready to start a power efficient SFF home lab using an i5-12400, 32GB RAM (eventually 64GB), a SATA boot drive, 1TB NVMe for VMs and a 10TB HDD for storing large files.
    It would be very helpful if you could provide a guide on how to set up the boot drive for Proxmox.

    • @TechnoTim
      @TechnoTim  2 года назад +1

      Here's one of my old ones. It's one of my first ever! ruclips.net/video/7OVaWaqO2aU/видео.html

    • @MarkWyche
      @MarkWyche 2 года назад

      @@TechnoTim thank you.

    • @gordonfortune3859
      @gordonfortune3859 2 года назад

      What motherboard are you using @Mark, would love to see your build as I’m looking at the same setup.

    • @MarkWyche
      @MarkWyche 2 года назад

      @@gordonfortune3859 I’m going with a Gigabyte AORUS Pro B660M motherboard. I’m still about a month away from doing a build. I’ll put together a video of the build and the thinking around it. I don’t have a big RUclips channel. But, if you subscribe, I’ll be sure to do the video.
      Thanks!

  • @AdmV0rl0n
    @AdmV0rl0n 2 года назад +5

    really good stuff. Personally had a lot of NUCs go bad, suffer BIOS failures or no boot/post issues, and similar. Thats my only concern in this area.
    Outside of that, this is great, and takes up minimal room.

    • @TheDesertsweeper
      @TheDesertsweeper 2 года назад

      For me it was the video woes

    • @davidkamaunu7887
      @davidkamaunu7887 10 месяцев назад

      I have a few older Skylake NUCs and they can be neurotic or spasticated at times. I attribute this to the difficulties of concentrating compute resources in such a small package. I had issues with UEFI boot and kernel panics with Linux. Forgot that it is a hybrid architecture that is not AMD64.

  • @kennydiff
    @kennydiff 2 года назад

    It's really cool~

  • @dvvisuals6439
    @dvvisuals6439 Год назад

    Currently running proxmox on same nvme and my windows vm. But installed docker/home assistant (vm)/pi hole/dietpi on a slow hdd.
    Any reason to change this?

  • @jackypoupot7311
    @jackypoupot7311 10 месяцев назад

    Hi Tim ! Many thanks for your great videos ! Just a little question what file system are you using on the single 1TB SSD drive ? ZFS ? Many thanks for answer :) Best regards from France ;)

  • @trymschjervheim
    @trymschjervheim 4 месяца назад

    Just bought a Lenovo Tiny for proxmox. It has one SSD and two nvme drives.
    I was thinking to run the OS on the one SSD, and VMs on the two nvme in raid 1 for redundansy. What file system should i use for the OS drive as a single disc?
    Was rhinking ZFS for the raid 1 drives for VMs.
    And if the OS drives stops working. Would there be easy to get it back up again? If i have stored backup somwhere?

  • @hessianbeard
    @hessianbeard 2 года назад

    Will the video you did on GPU passthru work on this? Bought this kit verbatim, it's really nice! Thanks for the video

  • @The411
    @The411 6 месяцев назад

    Cool. What are options for more NIC's? I'm currently running full server hardware and virtual firewalls. Dedicated NIC's would be preferred for WAN connections.

  • @resetter
    @resetter Год назад +1

    Are there any BIOS settings you altered? Like turning off HT, I had hoped for some optimization settings for that

  • @paulkiely7637
    @paulkiely7637 2 года назад +1

    Hi Tim..great video. I was looking to replace an older Zotac SBC setup and purchased a NUC after watching your vid. One comment..when installing Proxmox, I had to disable secure boot in the BIOS in order to get it to boot up.

  • @Spasmomen
    @Spasmomen 2 года назад

    I've got an unused Samsung 860 1TB SSD that I could use in my Intel NUC for Proxmox installation, but I'm doubtful to use it, as it seems an awful waste of space since you can't use the remainder of space for something else, correct?
    I already have an M.2 disk where the VMs will be.

  • @cldpt
    @cldpt 2 года назад +1

    NUCs are cool but I think TinyMiniMicro machines (ServeThrHome's moniker for Thinkpad, HP and Dell's 1L machines) still present a better package. Basically the same size, but with as efficient, yet more kick-if-you-need upgradeable CPUs (which may even go for 2 generations depending on chipset support by Intel), a pushier thermal envelope, upgradeable Wifi, and in the case of the Thinkpads you even get multiple NVMe slots. Some models even allow for either a Quadro or low form factor ADM GPU, or even Thunderbolt (albeit these two are rare and expensive). You can get them up to 10 cores on 10th gen, and now they also come with Ryzen options apparently. I'm really hoping for a great 12th gen Tiny to splurge myself.

  • @theglowcloud2215
    @theglowcloud2215 2 года назад

    I'm waiting for 12th gen NUCs, or just build an ITX system with a 12100 or 12400. Not sure how Proxmox (or any hypervisor) is handling the P and E cores on Alder Lake, though.

  • @SpadeQc123
    @SpadeQc123 2 года назад

    I’ve been running an m73 upgraded with a 8 core xeon, 16gb ddr3 and a sata ssd and it’s nice.. I’m looking at the newer ddr4 offerings right now to push ram and the core count a little further..! NUCs are fun, but damn are they expensive for no reason!

  • @Trains-With-Shane
    @Trains-With-Shane 2 года назад

    I'm running Proxmox on a 2nd gen i7 laptop with only 16gb ram in it, lol. I'm in need of an upgrade fairly badly. But the laptop was free from work. My biggest limitation is ram. That NUC sure is cool. I was thinking about putting my own Ryzen based system together in a mITX form factor. Honestly the NUC is fairly reasonably priced by comparison.

  • @CharlyDS
    @CharlyDS 8 месяцев назад

    Funny enough I just installed Proxmox 8 on the NUC you decommissioned, 12gb RAM, same model with an H at the end, I think it is because it's a bigger case that can hold a SSD. Using a tiny 128gb now but I might add a bigger one for more fun!

  • @MRPtech
    @MRPtech Год назад

    Hi Tim.
    I am tempting to go Proxmox-NUC too.
    Can you please point me to your update video about this or can you tell me at this stage, how many VMs you running and what average W usaged per 24hours ?
    Thank you !

  • @wyattarich
    @wyattarich 2 года назад +1

    Nice video, your script seemed well thought out. Would like to see if you can get 10gbit working with that over a USB/Thunderbolt adapter, and if so, can it actually fully utilize all 10gbit. Would be a great way to show off iperf3 and how to speed test locally.

    • @TechnoTim
      @TechnoTim  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for the idea!

  • @StudlerCH
    @StudlerCH 2 года назад

    Did you also consider going with a AMD based Mini System? For example with a 4800U or 4900H CPU with 8 Cores? I think this would be compelling as you get twice the amount of cores and in most situations an extra Ethernet Port (2.5Gbit and 1Gbit).

  • @jareeq
    @jareeq Год назад

    @Techno Tim what kind of file system you chose for single nvme drive ?

  • @MrKalodis
    @MrKalodis 2 года назад

    I've never heard of Ventoy until today. Glad I did though!

  • @ProffesorFarnsworth
    @ProffesorFarnsworth 2 года назад

    Needs more dark mode!
    Also, "excuse the mess"??? That was the cleanest desk I've ever seen.
    Great video!

    • @TechnoTim
      @TechnoTim  2 года назад

      Thank you! The wide shot showed all my cords and lights but I cut in to it while editing!