Well, I am impressed how he made it clear from the start, things where much different than we where all taught in our school books, and I thank him for that honesty! And very sure, being a Harvrd graduate, he is very aware of the lies we been led to believe about these greedy, rich control freaks whose only interest was to become even more rich and had very little to do with the welfare of the average man,,,,However it appears Madison did have a heart for the people,,
Madison reminds me of me in many ways. One being that I say stuff that people end up using against me in clever ways. Another being that he would not make a good politician in today’s society.
@@ajkauthen federalist turned anti-federalist. Opposed the national bank alongside Jefferson but realized the need for it after the War of 1812. The programs federalist promoted that they opposed were the same programs they executed when they saw themselves in the WH.
I do agree about the national bank. But all Madison really had to go off of was the history of the purse being in the hands of the executive. Cant blame him for shifting his position temporarily on the national bank. He knew the importance of it in the financing of the war against Britain but became opposed again when peace looked to be incoming. Even then he agreed to it under heavy reluctance. Hamilton took federalism in a completely different direction from the sense of it held by himself and Jefferson. Hamilton had in mind a large army and large debts and a plan that would essentially consolidate the government into the hands of a few rich creditors. He was also shifting political power more towards the federal government and taking away certain states rights which were essential to Madisons and Jeffersons view of federalism.
@@ajkauthen Jefferson & Madison saw the executive as being corrupt and dangerous to civil liberties until they got in and they saw the need for heavy handedness in enforcing laws and government policies. Hamilton was the only founding fathers with a forward thinking vision of the potential of the American state. That's why he was beloved by Washington, and the jeffersonians hated him for that. Go to Washington today, no memorial of him. Sad!
Madison had a ton of faith in a properly functioning executive. He even fought to give it more power and supported the veto which many, like roger Sherman opposed. A fractious legislature was a big concern for Madison though. If Hamilton would've gotten to see his form of government play out, the state governments would've been dissolved and slowly it would've become a monarchy or an aristocracy. When Hamilton started in with his views of what the executive should be and then of course when John Adams was in office, the alien and Sedition acts, he really saw the excess of the executive. I think just because Madison saw his idea of the government, saw how it could function under the proper governance of elected officials, but then saw how in more aggressive hands with more anti-republucan principles it could turn into an aristocracy or a monarchy thus rethinking or adjusting certain ideas makes him confused or contradictory. It was a new government and he was simply adapting and revising some ideas to conserve his republican principles he thought to benefit all the people
I always thought Madison was underrated. Madison, Jefferson, and Franklin are my top 3 founding fathers.
Well, I am impressed how he made it clear from the start, things where much different than we where all taught in our school books, and I thank him for that honesty! And very sure, being a Harvrd graduate, he is very aware of the lies we been led to believe about these greedy, rich control freaks whose only interest was to become even more rich and had very little to do with the welfare of the average man,,,,However it appears Madison did have a heart for the people,,
Madison reminds me of me in many ways. One being that I say stuff that people end up using against me in clever ways. Another being that he would not make a good politician in today’s society.
Excellent presentation on Madison. A jeffersonian at heart, Madison was a confused and contradictory specimen.
I'm curious as to what made him confused and contradictory?
@@ajkauthen federalist turned anti-federalist. Opposed the national bank alongside Jefferson but realized the need for it after the War of 1812. The programs federalist promoted that they opposed were the same programs they executed when they saw themselves in the WH.
I do agree about the national bank. But all Madison really had to go off of was the history of the purse being in the hands of the executive. Cant blame him for shifting his position temporarily on the national bank. He knew the importance of it in the financing of the war against Britain but became opposed again when peace looked to be incoming. Even then he agreed to it under heavy reluctance. Hamilton took federalism in a completely different direction from the sense of it held by himself and Jefferson. Hamilton had in mind a large army and large debts and a plan that would essentially consolidate the government into the hands of a few rich creditors. He was also shifting political power more towards the federal government and taking away certain states rights which were essential to Madisons and Jeffersons view of federalism.
@@ajkauthen Jefferson & Madison saw the executive as being corrupt and dangerous to civil liberties until they got in and they saw the need for heavy handedness in enforcing laws and government policies. Hamilton was the only founding fathers with a forward thinking vision of the potential of the American state. That's why he was beloved by Washington, and the jeffersonians hated him for that. Go to Washington today, no memorial of him. Sad!
Madison had a ton of faith in a properly functioning executive. He even fought to give it more power and supported the veto which many, like roger Sherman opposed. A fractious legislature was a big concern for Madison though. If Hamilton would've gotten to see his form of government play out, the state governments would've been dissolved and slowly it would've become a monarchy or an aristocracy. When Hamilton started in with his views of what the executive should be and then of course when John Adams was in office, the alien and Sedition acts, he really saw the excess of the executive. I think just because Madison saw his idea of the government, saw how it could function under the proper governance of elected officials, but then saw how in more aggressive hands with more anti-republucan principles it could turn into an aristocracy or a monarchy thus rethinking or adjusting certain ideas makes him confused or contradictory. It was a new government and he was simply adapting and revising some ideas to conserve his republican principles he thought to benefit all the people
Very well spoken
This is great!