One day in VYBORG - a Finno-Russian town

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  • @JohnTavastian
    @JohnTavastian 6 месяцев назад +24

    "I didn't steal your bike, I just took custody of it for the foreseeable future."

  • @petethebig1
    @petethebig1 5 месяцев назад +26

    My mother was born in viipuri 1924, and had to leave in 1939 :(

  • @robertn2951
    @robertn2951 6 месяцев назад +51

    "Calling stealing doesn't cover all the details". Ask Ukrainians.

    • @gabrielbakalarz5722
      @gabrielbakalarz5722 6 месяцев назад +11

      Hope Ukraine gives its land back to Poland, Romania, Hungary

    • @jrgenjrgensen5987
      @jrgenjrgensen5987 6 месяцев назад +5

      Russian mir doesnt understand that we have moved on from the times of landgrabbing and are trying to establish some rules and laws to prohibit landgrabbing-wars from happening again. They just don’t get it, it seems. And it seems they have absolutely no culture for accountability and coming to terms with their past. Thats why they just repeat their unstable tsar rule again and again.

    • @gabrielbakalarz5722
      @gabrielbakalarz5722 6 месяцев назад +7

      @@jrgenjrgensen5987 Serbia approves your comment. Give Kosovo back to Serbia then

    • @jrgenjrgensen5987
      @jrgenjrgensen5987 6 месяцев назад

      @@gabrielbakalarz5722 I’m sorry, I have no power to do that

    • @gabrielbakalarz5722
      @gabrielbakalarz5722 6 месяцев назад +9

      @@jrgenjrgensen5987 why America hasn’t been sanctioned then ? When nato attacks it’s fine with . You didn’t protest and put Serbian flag on your profile pic on fb , did you ?

  • @pr7049
    @pr7049 6 месяцев назад +83

    Viipuri was the 2nd biggest town of Finland. It has only 70 000 inhabitants just like in 30's. No development. According normal development there should be 300 000 inhabitants.

    • @HarrierDrone
      @HarrierDrone 6 месяцев назад +28

      What kind of development can you expect from ruski mir?

    • @roberturbanczyk204
      @roberturbanczyk204 5 месяцев назад

      Russians are making ruski mir everywhere they come. In Poland we still keep revitalising towns that were under soviet army rule. For example they cut part of flour and used this hole as toilet. Every little detail od buildings were stolen or devastated. Town like Legnica or borne Sulinowo still need plenty of investments to make it look european again. It might take next bilions and decades to remove russki mir from there

    • @user-pl7mo4vo5c
      @user-pl7mo4vo5c 5 месяцев назад +5

      That’s not true as most small towns around the world simply cannot grow because work,development and universities all happen in larger cities and most young people move there for opportunity.The whole country of Finland has only 5.5m people which is less than the top 50 cities in the world so whether this town is Russian or Finnish it would make no difference.It was 5m in 1990 so the country has not grown much regardless and likely why Europe is importing illegals migrants on mass which of course is already backfiring as expected.🤷‍♂️

    • @pr7049
      @pr7049 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@user-pl7mo4vo5c For example now in Tampere currently 2nd biggest town grew 2000-2023 from 185 000 inhabitants to 255 000 inhabitants and continues growing.
      The inhabitants of Viipuri moved mostly to Lahti and Helsinki.
      Small town Lahti (14 000) would not be the middle size town (120 000 inhabitant) without old Viipuri inhabitants.
      Also Helsinki capital would not be as big it is today (657 000 inhabitants) without old Viipuri inhabitants.
      The growth is a combination of urbanisation and overall increase of population and also people from abroad moving to Finland. For example in 1990s the 70 000 ingermanlandski finns from St Petersburg surroundings.

    • @user-sm3sm6dt1f
      @user-sm3sm6dt1f 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@HarrierDroneкак и ни чего более умного от вас

  • @musadiggari9450
    @musadiggari9450 5 месяцев назад +20

    Stolen City - indeed.

  • @mikatimonen5449
    @mikatimonen5449 6 месяцев назад +25

    My mother's family is from Viipuri. The victorious write the history book. Area round Ladoga was inhabited by Finnic people long before Slavs and Vikings came there.
    Sad to see that Russia don't take care good about areas they conquered but still do keep conquering new territories.

  • @snow3017
    @snow3017 6 месяцев назад +42

    I have a Finnish friend. I brought this city up to him one time when i didnt know much about it. His temper went very high immediately and he said "they stole it from us with threats of war".

    • @AlfaGiuliaQV
      @AlfaGiuliaQV 6 месяцев назад +11

      They stole it THROUGH war. You can see on the clocktower in the video that is still damaged from shelling during the fierce battles over the town in ´44

    • @semipalatinsk1
      @semipalatinsk1 6 месяцев назад +20

      That's right. It was a brutal invasion, just like what Russia is doing against Ukraine now, and Finland felt it had to give up a part of their land for peace, or risk losing their entire country.

    • @AlfaGiuliaQV
      @AlfaGiuliaQV 6 месяцев назад +11

      @@semipalatinsk1 We chose life, but it´s a trauma for our nation that reverberates to this day.

    • @jjhonecker7644
      @jjhonecker7644 6 месяцев назад +2

      😂😂Скажи ему, иди плакать рекой.

    • @jjhonecker7644
      @jjhonecker7644 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@semipalatinsk1😂

  • @alexanderkarayannis6425
    @alexanderkarayannis6425 6 месяцев назад +28

    The world is full of beautiful, charming, unforgettable places, steeped in history and culture and interesting stories about them...Thank you once again Svetlana, for introducing us to a few more, that most of us are not likely to get to know up close in our lifetime, but, at the same time, couldn't ask for a better tour guide to them than you yourself, and your lovely videos...🙏

  • @Ethnarches
    @Ethnarches 6 месяцев назад +9

    My wife's grandmother is from Viipuri, that's very common here in the capital area of Finland for people to have grandparents who had to flee Viipuri as the Soviets rolled in as no one wanted to stay with them in power.

  • @christopherwebb7245
    @christopherwebb7245 5 месяцев назад +10

    I have known Vyborg since 1985 when I brought my first tour group, and had lunch at Hotel Druzhba before continuing to Leningrad.
    Two years later I met a Leningrad guide there, and 2 years later we got married. We have a flat near Udelnaya in St Pete, so enjoy regular trips to Vyborg. It takes only an hour on the fast new electric train. Sometimes we stay at the Druzhba, sometimes we just make a day trip of it.
    I know that the Finn's who moved back here after the Winter War ended in 1940 felt seethingly angry when they had to leave their homes after the Continuation War ended in 1944.
    However as one comment by a family member who once lived there, Vyborg and Karelia are now Russian. That's an unfortunate fact, but it is reality. Before the war Finn's made a magnificent gift to the city and its people when they reconstructed Alvo Aalto's 1929 library. I love this place, and feel it represents reconciliation.
    Sadly, as Svetlana points out, the fabric of the city is in a pitiful state. Moscow did provide funds for renovation, but the money was stolen by local politicians. One stole €20 million to pay a bribe to get into politics in Moscow. Sadly, misappropriation of funds is endemic in Russia. Vyborg has such potential, yet it is largely unrealised. I found the people open and friendly, however.
    Monplaisir Park has also been grossly mismanaged. It's scandalous that such a wonderful place of natural beauty is under threat.
    Thanks, Sveta. I enjoyed your report from Dixie supermarket. Very interesting, as I haven't been in St Petersburg since we came to bury my lovely mother-in-law just 4 days before the launch of a special military operation.
    I miss St Petersburg and my Russian family and friends. I miss Vyborg. I hope the war ends soon, and peace returns so I too can return. But I fear this may still be several years away.
    Merry 'Catholic' Christmas!

    • @PaulV.
      @PaulV. 2 месяца назад +1

      You may safely return right now. I am a part of a pretty large expat community in Saint Petersburg which consists of more than 200 people (Americans, Brits, French, Italians, Brazilians and so on) and everyone quite happy to live in Russia even at the present time. We chat regularly and even have some occasional meetings and no one has told about any problems except some taxi scam or dealing with local bureaucracy. The only 2 annoying things are the more expensive plane tickets since now you have to travel to Russia via Istanbul or Dubai and the need to bring cash since Western cards are not working.

    • @christopherwebb7245
      @christopherwebb7245 2 месяца назад

      @@PaulV. Good to know, and thank you for taking the time to write. I know things look very different from afar. I am not sure I really WANT to go back to SPB right now, but we shall see. My father-in-law is 84, lives for his fishing, but will not be with us for ever. We'll see what Marianna decides when the time comes.

    • @PaulV.
      @PaulV. 2 месяца назад

      @@christopherwebb7245 All the best!

  • @jrgenjrgensen5987
    @jrgenjrgensen5987 6 месяцев назад +62

    Finland is a beautiful country. 👍🏻

    • @juhanivuorinen6981
      @juhanivuorinen6981 6 месяцев назад +16

      Vyborg is not Finland, anymore. The USSR stole it!

    • @jrgenjrgensen5987
      @jrgenjrgensen5987 6 месяцев назад +11

      @@juhanivuorinen6981 yes, that was the point of my comment

    • @nikoa97
      @nikoa97 6 месяцев назад

      But the nazis went to Petroskoi and burnt the houses!

    • @GwynBleys
      @GwynBleys 6 месяцев назад +1

      yes we like Finland comrade, we like Ukraine and Poland too

    • @dakkossman2063
      @dakkossman2063 4 месяца назад +1

      It was liberated by Russia

  • @lescobrandon2202
    @lescobrandon2202 6 месяцев назад +31

    The reality is that Russia has too much land compared to their economy and population, to maintain the majority of towns and cities. For example this beautiful city of Vyborg has been let to decay, because there's no money / interest / local population to maintain it as it was before the Russian annexation.

    • @lescobrandon2202
      @lescobrandon2202 6 месяцев назад +8

      @@ayapaiz226 It is as simple as that, meaning those are the proven issues. Solving the problem is whole another topic.

    • @adrianobanak2824
      @adrianobanak2824 5 месяцев назад +2

      USA can't maintain most of its cities also. Most of EU towns that are not capitals or largest economic centers also look awful.

    • @Alberto-tv8rg
      @Alberto-tv8rg 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@adrianobanak2824 not like russian cities 😂. Finland is a wonderful country and probably you did not watch videos of how it was under finnish control

    • @timogronroos4642
      @timogronroos4642 5 месяцев назад +1

      In reality Russia could be as prosperous as Norway and could take care of even it's people on top of the cities, if it had joined human kind at some point of its history. Thank You Svetlana for your honesty.

    • @jonathanstein5049
      @jonathanstein5049 5 месяцев назад +2

      Most of Russia is not maintained outside of a handful of showcase cities.

  • @ann3856
    @ann3856 6 месяцев назад +20

    Svetlana, I got SO excited when I saw you have a vlog. It's beautiful! The colour of the leaves. You were brave to go out and selfish me appreciated your photography skills! Lovely!

    • @jaylinn416
      @jaylinn416 6 месяцев назад +4

      Everything is beautiful about this channel - esp. Svetlana!

  • @user-in3tc5wp2r
    @user-in3tc5wp2r 2 месяца назад +3

    Yes, it was stolen from us. My grandfather fought there like many others. One Finnish soldier was worth 10 Russians, because we were fighting for our own land.

  • @wikimaki6558
    @wikimaki6558 6 месяцев назад +10

    My heritage is indeed from Viaborg. So its heartbreaking that its said that the ownership has shiwted between some countries while the people who used to be live there were finnish. Its all politics end of the day. Common people are forgot.

  • @Erkele
    @Erkele 5 месяцев назад +8

    Keep removing comments?

  • @mfreund15448
    @mfreund15448 6 месяцев назад +1

    The video has very good definition! The bark and leaves looked so deep! Nice work!

  • @PetriTemiseva
    @PetriTemiseva 6 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you, Sveta! You brought back sweet childhood memories. Dad actually bought a tram just like you showed, and we used it as a summer cottage.
    🌅🇫🇮🇷🇺

  • @Vixctor13
    @Vixctor13 2 дня назад

    I read an article that money was allocated to help preserve the castle, but most of it was embezzled.

  • @sdflyer1672
    @sdflyer1672 6 месяцев назад +2

    Such a wonderful video tour of VYBORG! May I ask what camera you use for filming? Beautiful quality!

  • @johnhelms8226
    @johnhelms8226 6 месяцев назад +12

    No, it was stolen.

  • @staffanvonmulqwist4311
    @staffanvonmulqwist4311 6 месяцев назад +22

    You did stole it

    • @StekTM1
      @StekTM1 Месяц назад

      This was russian land untill Sweden stole it. They just took it back.

    • @rudolfox4142
      @rudolfox4142 Месяц назад +7

      @@StekTM1 Karelian Finns lived there long before ANY russians or Swedes.

    • @StekTM1
      @StekTM1 Месяц назад

      @@rudolfox4142 Karelians are not the same as finns. Finland had them in concentration camps before 1939... remember

    • @parsaukko3411
      @parsaukko3411 Месяц назад +7

      @@StekTM1 I'm Finnish-Karelian and you are one liar. Finns treated Karelians as one of Finnish tribe - as they are - and equals to them in every way. Russians were in camps tough.

    • @wilnur4846
      @wilnur4846 Месяц назад

      who cares who you are. europe is indo-european,but you some finno ugric karelian asians. you dont belong, neither to "finnland", not to russia and not to europe at all.

  • @francotarquinio8480
    @francotarquinio8480 6 месяцев назад +1

    love birch trees! What a frigid walk; loved the bridge of birch.

  • @MrTimodon
    @MrTimodon 5 месяцев назад +1

    I wanted to hug the cat so much! The swedish old song so funny! And i also like this stile of old houses, we must all live in this kind of town!

  • @joumaxu2629
    @joumaxu2629 6 месяцев назад +78

    Vyborg is Finnish and belongs to Finland! 🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮

    • @mariopigwa8538
      @mariopigwa8538 5 месяцев назад +9

      It is Viipuri

    • @adrianobanak2824
      @adrianobanak2824 5 месяцев назад +14

      Try and take it back😜

    • @mariopigwa8538
      @mariopigwa8538 5 месяцев назад +26

      @@adrianobanak2824 Mentlity of crimal and thief. One word. Russia.

    • @adrianobanak2824
      @adrianobanak2824 5 месяцев назад +20

      @@mariopigwa8538 i assume you are from Europe? If you are, you are the last one allowed to speak about theft, because Europe owes it's riches to Africa, South America and Asia...all of those ex-colonies that were robbed by Europeans for centuries.

    • @mariopigwa8538
      @mariopigwa8538 5 месяцев назад +7

      @@adrianobanak2824 i assume you are Sancho Pancho from Banana Republika de San Escobar ruled by colonel Lopez. I want to remind you that Europeans brought civilization to America. Unfortunately, some people from South America have been fooled by leftists who have made most of these countries third world.

  • @arska77
    @arska77 6 месяцев назад +9

    Sad to see..

  • @jozq9277
    @jozq9277 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for the video. 100 km from St Petersburg and city looks like that😬ouch.
    From 🇫🇮

  • @MrW10021
    @MrW10021 6 месяцев назад +3

    warm greetings to you; another fine excursion you have presented

    • @MrW10021
      @MrW10021 6 месяцев назад

      tour tip guy - I have pcs from Kronstadt...and I think Minsk central was a bit like toompea in Tallinn

  • @finnishculturalchannel
    @finnishculturalchannel 6 месяцев назад +2

    Torkel Knutsson.led the Third Swedish Crusade to Finland against the pagan Karelians in 1293. The target of the Swedish attack was the harbor and marketplace at Soumenvedenpohja, later known as Vyborg. The place was key to the West Karelians' trade and exchange with the outside world, and even before the arrival of the Swedes there was an older Karelian fortification there.

  • @eistercj2014
    @eistercj2014 6 месяцев назад

    Svetlana, thank you for all your videos. Keep up the lovely and wonderful work!

  • @DrDeagle
    @DrDeagle 2 месяца назад +1

    Did you know that after the Orcs took over Viipuri, only a couple of hundred people had stayed, while the rest of the almost 100 000 inhabitants having fled. What happened to those couple of hundred people? You guessed it, they were sent to the gulag!

  • @buckmountaintaxidermy7788
    @buckmountaintaxidermy7788 6 месяцев назад +2

    It definitely has an "Old World"feel to it!Also the background music does!👍

    • @AlfaGiuliaQV
      @AlfaGiuliaQV 6 месяцев назад +1

      Much is actually preserved the way it was when the soviet tanks rolled in to the town in 44, accompanied by heavy shelling of the outnumbered finnish defenders. Luckily the civilians was evacuated west in time. This is one reason why we understand very well what Ukraine is going through.

    • @buckmountaintaxidermy7788
      @buckmountaintaxidermy7788 6 месяцев назад

      ​@AlfaGiuliaQV Thanks for the eye opener..Now I better understand

  • @uutisvirtatotuusvelvoittaa1387
    @uutisvirtatotuusvelvoittaa1387 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you for your very professional high quality content. Well done.

  • @amyfaith2350
    @amyfaith2350 6 месяцев назад

    That is the coolest squirrel I've ever seen!!! More please!

  • @minnaorv
    @minnaorv 6 месяцев назад +8

    Vyborg has always been inhabited by finns and karelians. Until the winter war when thousands of finns and karelians had to evacuate and leave their homes. Now vyborg is just inhabited by russians and not the native people

    • @wilnur4846
      @wilnur4846 Месяц назад

      native to europe are people of indo-european descent. finns and karelians are foreign to europe.

    • @minnaorv
      @minnaorv Месяц назад

      @@wilnur4846 lol, language group is different than genetics. Finns and karelians are balto-finnic people who have one of the highest precentage of indo-european dna alongside the baltics and russia

    • @wilnur4846
      @wilnur4846 25 дней назад

      @@minnaorv russia, baltics and scandinavia, yes. but finns and karelians not

    • @minnaorv
      @minnaorv 24 дня назад

      @@wilnur4846 INHABITED not owned. Finns and karelians lived there

  • @hencytjoe
    @hencytjoe 6 месяцев назад +16

    That city looks like your average city in Sweden/Finland. It's absolutely amazing, and to see that train cart with signs in both Finnish and Swedish on it is so cool. I love that they played that song in that cute little shop. And Glögg is the best. I could drink it endlessly.
    If it hadn't been for the russian signs, it'd be a nordic city by all means. I hope they shape up and stop letting it fall apart....

    • @mikatimonen5449
      @mikatimonen5449 6 месяцев назад +2

      It looks like an average town here if not maintained well.

    • @adrianobanak2824
      @adrianobanak2824 5 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, it looks like average Nordic, boring town. Cold, gray, small, provincial, nothing to see and nothing to do. Russia has much more beautiful cities to visit.

    • @mikatimonen5449
      @mikatimonen5449 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@adrianobanak2824 If kept well it could be fine. Right there are 2 cities that are better rest is provincial backwards with lousy roads and houses crumbling, water pipes bursting, heating failing in winter, shit flowing into rivers, nature polluted. Different from Russia Nordic countries keep after all cities and towns not only where the elite lives and steals from the people.

    • @PaulV.
      @PaulV. 2 месяца назад

      ​@@mikatimonen5449I wonder where did you find all that nonsense. Even Svetlana's channel has videos from like a dozen different Russian towns including a really small town in Siberia she is originally from. And while most are certainty not as magnificent as Moscow or Saint Petersburg (which from my pov are among the top-10 cities in the whole world), all those towns are clean, safe, have developed infrastructure and a lot of attractions to visit.

    • @mikatimonen5449
      @mikatimonen5449 2 месяца назад

      @@PaulV. My Russian girlfriend who is from Murmansk. Also I watched guys who travelled around in Russia like Varlamov, Bald Ben and many others. Also some guys who report from where they live like Sergei in Vasya in the hay. Watch them and then say it's nonsense. And I am not talking about safety, unless you are migrant worker from Central Asia, but delayed houses, poorly maintained infrastructure (roads, pipes for central heating, water, sewage etc) and not in top 10 Russian cities or central places in cities. Go where foreigners, Svetlana and those you watched never go. You can use google maps to see for yourself many places if you cannot go yourself. Not saying all places are in decay but saying patriotical lies that there is no such places and that there are no problems is laughable. There is no such paradise country in the world. Even a country with lot of natural resources have their problems even if their nationalists say there isn't and if there is something then it's some other countries fault. Such idiots sadly exist in every country and Russia is no exception.

  • @varjokas2811
    @varjokas2811 6 месяцев назад +3

    I can see that you created this video with love for us finns while not forgetting the swedes either, with some special touch ❤Thank you for this. You are amazing! It's a shame I never visited this city while it is so close to the border. It seems to be in better condition than I expected actually and very beautiful in many ways indeed. When it comes to history I don't want to carry on the hateful feelings. From what I understand people in Russia do not have such feelings towards us.

    • @PaulV.
      @PaulV. 2 месяца назад +1

      Thats such a heartwarming comment among all that bitterness in the thread. I live in Saint Petersburg (although I ve moved there from NYC a long time ago) and dont know a single Russian who is hostile to Finland here. Its just the opposite - people are really sad that politicians destroyed relationships between two countries, they miss Finnish tourists and miss visiting Finland as well.

    • @varjokas2811
      @varjokas2811 2 месяца назад

      @@PaulV. It's nice to hear all that from someone who lives there. Thanks!

  • @user-cn4yi4ln6t
    @user-cn4yi4ln6t 3 месяца назад +3

    Nyet Molotov! Нет, Молотов!
    Viipuri is Finland 🇫🇮

  • @NelbertJoe
    @NelbertJoe 5 месяцев назад

    Be safe and warm,,, Happy new year and wishing you all the best in 2024🎉

  • @eeros4192
    @eeros4192 5 месяцев назад +11

    My friend wrote here that his family is from Viipuri and his cment was removed. Why, Svetlana?

  • @AdamSlatopolsky
    @AdamSlatopolsky 6 месяцев назад +4

    I love the peace and the way you produce the videos. They are very relaxing. Thanks for sharing!

  • @Naturallygreencleaning
    @Naturallygreencleaning 4 месяца назад

    I need to read first I can comment on whose it belongs to but you have made an amazing, honest, informative video.🎉

  • @dnnsmtchll
    @dnnsmtchll 5 месяцев назад

    wonerful job on this especially pointing out despite all th e pain its the lowest among us who suffer most --- keep up good work !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @SalPane1224
    @SalPane1224 6 месяцев назад

    That was inspiring, take me there 👍

  • @killer_gamer8664
    @killer_gamer8664 6 месяцев назад

    thank you for explaining

  • @henriikkak2091
    @henriikkak2091 Месяц назад +1

    Why quotation marks? It's a city that was inhabited by Finns from the beginning of time until the 1940s.
    St. Petersburg sits on historically Finnic lands too. Pushkin wrote about it. Look it up.
    I was in Vyborg in the 1990s. People tried to steal parts of our car while we were driving down the street. Windshield wipers, hood ornament, whatever.
    A traumatizing visit. I had never seen machine guns, prostitution, bribery, or drunk driving in broad daylight before.

  • @alimohtashimkhan2711
    @alimohtashimkhan2711 6 месяцев назад +1

    Beautiful video.

  • @BBBplayers
    @BBBplayers 5 месяцев назад +4

    Viborg is Finland!

  • @francoismartini5148
    @francoismartini5148 5 месяцев назад +3

    It is one of the many territories Moscovites stole from neighbouring countries.

  • @pasivaan9563
    @pasivaan9563 6 месяцев назад +6

    Viipuri was built and inhabited by Finns. Viipuri was part of independent and sovereign Finland, as it had always been. Vyborg was part of Finland under the rule of the King of Sweden and Vyborg was part of Finland under the rule of the Tsar of Russia. Stalin and Hitler divided Poland and Finland between them and Stalin attacked Finland 1939 and looted 10% of Finland's surface area, including Vyborg. There is nothing ambiguous about this. 1991 Boris Jetsin would have sold Karelia back to Finland for 15 billion dollars. The Finns did not want to discuss the matter. Thank God.

    • @wber3530
      @wber3530 6 месяцев назад +2

      Its Swedish town, Finland was a Swedish property before Russia gave it autonomy

    • @staffanvonmulqwist4311
      @staffanvonmulqwist4311 6 месяцев назад +2

      It belongs to Finns not us Swedes@@wber3530

    • @hockeybros4051
      @hockeybros4051 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@wber3530Finland was part of Sweden for over 600 years before the Russians but it was always Suomi land of the Finns. long time before swedes or slavs even where in the area.

    • @juhanivalimaki5418
      @juhanivalimaki5418 25 дней назад

      @@wber3530 No, Finland was not a "Swedish property". People who live in Vyborg (90% Finnic) were Swedish citizens just like anybody else in Sweden. So it was not like Russian imperialism enslaving people's.

  • @user-David-Alan
    @user-David-Alan 6 месяцев назад +3

    Wow! That place was absolutely beautiful. Thanks for the video. Hair goddess is a fitting name because your hair is amazing. Hope you are doing well and have a wonderful season.

    • @TheDaftySage
      @TheDaftySage 3 месяца назад

      Yeah, it was. Until russia took it. Like everything russians steal, they turn it to shit.

  • @AlexanderWeurding
    @AlexanderWeurding 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @skyshorrchannel3474
    @skyshorrchannel3474 6 месяцев назад +5

    A good history lesson, my parents are Finns so I liked it a lot.
    Regarding the past fighting, I believe Peter the Greats creation of Petersburg was the big issue.
    The Russians had very little interest in the Baltic area, then with the new super city they changed their view,
    How many Kms from Viipurii to Pietaari?
    They are close... Supposedly the new mega cannons of 100 years ago were in range.
    Plus the Bolshy's started in Petersburg.

    • @leifiseland1218
      @leifiseland1218 6 месяцев назад

      There was a town before St. Petersburg aswell, called Nyen.. & as a sidenote, St. Petersburg was initially largely built by slave labour, taken from the eastern parts of Sweden, ie what today is Finland. 🧐

    • @user-yp2mw2ko9k
      @user-yp2mw2ko9k 6 месяцев назад +2

      What do you mean by "The Russians" - the normal people never are interested in huge political projects, they have to work and toil to put each day supper on the table for their family.

    • @skyshorrchannel3474
      @skyshorrchannel3474 6 месяцев назад

      Yes I agree, however Peters interest in Baltic trade and tech made one of the worlds great cities for the people.
      And it change their direction of interest.@@user-yp2mw2ko9k

  • @HarrierDrone
    @HarrierDrone 6 месяцев назад +28

    I hope this lands will be returned to Finland one day

    • @MikaRautio
      @MikaRautio 5 месяцев назад +2

      In that day the Carelia is joined to Finland, all stolen houses, apartments, forests and fields must be given back to the inheritors of those Finnish people, who were the legal owners of this property before WW2.
      In Estonia, in all Baltic countries, in Ukraine and in all Soviet occupied countries this is already done long ago. The privatization of the property done started in the year 1991 when these countries got back their independence and the property the communist had taken started to find back to their legal owners.
      But in Finnish Carelia the privatization is not yet done.
      Actually the privatization should be done right away, no matter if the area is belonging to Russia or in Finland. Because the legal owners of each house are living in Finland. Every people living now in Viipuri should have asked that whose house you are living? How much did you pay for your house? So far todays inhabitants there haven´t paid anything yet. Everything they have now is stolen from Finnish people who once lived in Viipuri.

    • @LloydChristmas983
      @LloydChristmas983 2 месяца назад

      Keep hoping, actually coping...

    • @juhanivalimaki5418
      @juhanivalimaki5418 25 дней назад

      @@MikaRautio Actually based on international laws the ownership of all land and buildings in Karelia belongs to those Finns who lived there before. International laws say wars might change borders, but private property is protected. There was actually such a court case started in Vyborg, and the judge was understanding, but then Moscow told the court case must be ended immediately.

  • @BigBear59
    @BigBear59 6 месяцев назад +1

    Svetlana,thanks for sharing …I have visited this town …such a pity that it’s not preserved and restored better …but it is a beautiful place …until next time …Alex🇬🇷

  • @jacktrinder5668
    @jacktrinder5668 6 месяцев назад

    nice place reminds me of york in england and beautiful as always 😍😍

  • @JanK1980
    @JanK1980 6 месяцев назад +5

    Let's be precise. Legally the Sovibet Union has not stolen Viipuri from Finland. But Finland did not sign the two treaties from 1940 and 1945 volutarily. It did so, because there was no alternative. Especially in 1939/1940 the Fins fought bravely and the Red Army had massive casualties. But of course at the end, the small Finish army had no chance against the human waves of the Soviet Red Army. The continuation war between 1941 and 1944, that led to a new treaty with even more losses than back in 1940, was a mistake of Finland. Finland allied with Nazi-Germany to get back Finish-Karelia. This fired back when Germany was losing the war. However, I would not consider it impossible that Karelia will one day be part of Finland again. Since the 15th century the Russian territory has grown like a tumor and the Russian space now contains territories where ethnic Russians are a minority. If the situation in Russia becomes unstable in terms of economy and demography, then those minorities may try to break away from Moscow. And this could then be a "chance" for China to get back Outer Mandchuria. In such a chaos, maybe people of Karelia may want to join Finland - who knows?

    • @FireDragon16180
      @FireDragon16180 6 месяцев назад +1

      you said very well, this is the truth

    • @ellav5387
      @ellav5387 6 месяцев назад +1

      Sure Finland is rich for its tiny population, but do you seriously believe it has the economy to integrate and rebuild one of the poorest regions in Europe? Besides it's not even Karelian anymore, so why should we care? It's the Russian government's job to take care of its land and people, not ours lol.

    • @markusmakela9380
      @markusmakela9380 6 месяцев назад

      Molotov-Ribbentrop pact 1939 USSR/NaziGermany was first. Hitler and Stalin were/are best friends.

    • @ImForwardlook
      @ImForwardlook 5 месяцев назад +1

      Let's face the fact that without massive American help the Soviet Union would have been ran over in WWII.

    • @LloydChristmas983
      @LloydChristmas983 2 месяца назад

      Dream on buddy.

  • @_TheMax_
    @_TheMax_ 6 месяцев назад +2

    What happened to her trip and moving to USA?

  • @TheChironexxxx
    @TheChironexxxx 6 месяцев назад +11

    hope it will be karelian state and part of finland in coming years !

    • @user-sm3sm6dt1f
      @user-sm3sm6dt1f 4 месяца назад +2

      Надейся лучше на Бога, чтоб подарил тебе мозги

    • @LloydChristmas983
      @LloydChristmas983 2 месяца назад

      Only if Finland becomes a part of Russia again.

  • @user-jy5yf3hl7w
    @user-jy5yf3hl7w 2 месяца назад

    Tack! Kiitos spazchiba ❤thank You so much

  • @jarmosalonen2068
    @jarmosalonen2068 6 месяцев назад +52

    Viipuri, Vyborg was always since before 1939a city of us Finns. We were part of Sweden, yes. We remained also an autonomy in Russia about 100 years. Just the city and our country was never russified. Until the late czars tried. they failed.
    In 1939 the Russians attacked with no reason, and stole our Karelia including Viipuri with their nazi pact.
    Also St Petersburg was built on Finns land, but it is an ancient history.

    • @jarmosalonen2068
      @jarmosalonen2068 6 месяцев назад +11

      And now the city once a prospering one is all in ruins.

    • @wber3530
      @wber3530 6 месяцев назад +8

      For no reason? Russia will never forget about the Viipuri massacre. Its also a former Swedish town and Karelia is Novgorod Republic not Finland and never was.

    • @leopoldlodewijkfilipsmaria8064
      @leopoldlodewijkfilipsmaria8064 6 месяцев назад +6

      First Novgorod's king was finnish descent.

    • @JP-zs8qk
      @JP-zs8qk Месяц назад

      ​​@@wber3530 Rurik who founded Novgorod has a Finn dna. So actually whole country founded by Finn.

    • @tharnganbenedict24
      @tharnganbenedict24 5 дней назад

      Rurik was no finn, he was Russian of swedish background. The Finns were still living in the forest and herding deer. They weren't sophisticated enough in nation building. It's like saying the great rulers of Sweden was a Sami because the Sami people live close by.

  • @angrycanadianJCVdude
    @angrycanadianJCVdude 6 месяцев назад

    ginormous, I had to look it up -

  • @user-kn4mm8tx6y
    @user-kn4mm8tx6y 6 месяцев назад

    Expect eagerly.shamim💏👏🤼‍♂️

  • @nickschultz3259
    @nickschultz3259 6 месяцев назад

    Damn! I love those Russian squirrels with the long fluffy ears, esp. the ones with black and red mixed fur. We need to import some of those.

  • @Alberto-tv8rg
    @Alberto-tv8rg 5 месяцев назад +2

    Viipuri was a beautiful city. I love Finland and it should belong to it. One of the few beautiful cities in Russia not looking soviet. I never understood why Russia always expand without having the interest or capability to mantain the places.

    • @LloydChristmas983
      @LloydChristmas983 2 месяца назад

      Actually, Russia is developing faster than most of the Western countries today, but thanks for the nice propaganda try.

  • @mats92b22
    @mats92b22 6 месяцев назад +1

    The song 8:00 is a norweigian song called "musevisa" but it sounds like they are singing the swedish version of the song.

    • @SVETLANAFROMRUSSIA
      @SVETLANAFROMRUSSIA  6 месяцев назад

      What is it about?

    • @mats92b22
      @mats92b22 6 месяцев назад

      @@SVETLANAFROMRUSSIA it's about mice celebrating Christmas. Here is the swedish version ruclips.net/video/ttKXAny1VYM/видео.html

  • @buckmountaintaxidermy7788
    @buckmountaintaxidermy7788 6 месяцев назад

    Svetlana,you did a good job on this commentary..

  • @donjose4656
    @donjose4656 6 месяцев назад +1

    Merci du partage, vidéo intéressante.

  • @michaelstiller8498
    @michaelstiller8498 5 месяцев назад +2

    😢Sad😢the owners of the beautiful buildings don’t show pride of ownership by keeping them repaired or maintained or painted…I enjoyed your narrative, history lesson, and sight seeing. .

    • @timogronroos4642
      @timogronroos4642 5 месяцев назад +1

      If you start with no honor, the honor will never grow there

    • @LloydChristmas983
      @LloydChristmas983 2 месяца назад

      @@timogronroos4642 Nazi collaborators taking about honor...

  • @ferenc.lestak
    @ferenc.lestak 5 месяцев назад

    Very pretty little town

  • @erikjurmann6594
    @erikjurmann6594 6 месяцев назад +4

    Tragic town, no fate worse than to be annexed by the russian empire. Poverty and everything falling into disrepair

  • @johnpicker6458
    @johnpicker6458 6 месяцев назад +1

    So it looks pretty normal there. From the videos I watch coming out of Russia. Alot different then what the news says.

  • @tresphorempundu3185
    @tresphorempundu3185 6 месяцев назад +1

    The town will only be as good and well preserved as you want it and the generation of Russia that is young. This video is one step in that direction by showing us a bit of history and also the beautiful places in this little town. It is now part of the Russian federation and becomes yours to take care of.
    Thanks you for sharing and take care.

  • @juhanivuorinen6981
    @juhanivuorinen6981 6 месяцев назад +13

    Thank you Svetlana! You used the correct words: "stolen" and "ruined"!

  • @martinpetersen3733
    @martinpetersen3733 6 месяцев назад +25

    Viborg and other Finnish territories were unprovokedly conquered by force through Russian intervention because Russia believed that the Finnish border was too close to the major city of St. Petersburg, posing a security risk. As happens everywhere Russia conquers land from its neighbors, the city is now declining, and with it, its historical heritage is disappearing, which is very sad and regrettable.😢

    • @pr7049
      @pr7049 6 месяцев назад

      In 90's finnish and russian scientists got to see the russian documents. According them Stalins motivation was equally to steal finnish assets. Later Putin closed the access to these archives. Maybe it was embarrassing..

    • @wber3530
      @wber3530 6 месяцев назад

      learn about the Viipuri massacre before writing such bullshit

    • @k1rin511
      @k1rin511 Месяц назад

      🤡

    • @martinpetersen3733
      @martinpetersen3733 Месяц назад

      @@k1rin511 🤷‍♂️

  • @haroonsuresh2326
    @haroonsuresh2326 6 месяцев назад +2

    можем ли мы там поселиться?

    • @sansund8987
      @sansund8987 6 месяцев назад

      It is possible. But even more depressive now since all the Finnish tourists left.

  • @michelbisson6645
    @michelbisson6645 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks!

  • @sampohonkala4195
    @sampohonkala4195 6 месяцев назад +29

    The city where my mother was born and where she started school. As a Finn I would not call the city Finno - Russian as during autonomy it was a Finnish city and before WW2 totally evacuated to protect the people (Unlike Leningrad where Stalin let hundreds of thousands Russians die as human shields rather than evacuate them and protect the lives of the citizens). As all Finns left Viborg just like my mother, the city no longer was Finnish in any way, but became a totally Soviet city, and after the USSR collapsed in 1991 it became a totally Russian city. There is no such thing as Finno - Russian cities. Russia is an imperialist state, currently led by war criminals. Finland has nothing to do with Russia and therefore literally nothing is Finno - Russian and will never be. First Finnish and then Russian, two different and separate things.

    • @calex007
      @calex007 6 месяцев назад +2

      Karjala takas 😂

    • @christopherwebb7245
      @christopherwebb7245 5 месяцев назад +1

      Hear hear!
      Well said...

    • @adrianobanak2824
      @adrianobanak2824 5 месяцев назад

      A guy from country that was faithful ally of Nazi Germany and accomplice in war crimes against the people of Leningrad calls someone a war criminal🤣🤣 Get a grip of reality you arctic-alcoholic troll. But i agree with you in one thing...Russia and Finland have nothing in common (except the long border)...Russia is country of culture, art, poetry, science and sports...and Finland is...well....

    • @rurounnu
      @rurounnu Месяц назад

      1.2 million people died in the siege of Leningrad. It was carried out by the Nazis with the collaboration of Finland. Civilians were not used as shields, but the city was besieged with the goal of everyone being killed. At the end of the war it was handed over to the USSR as compensation by Finland. Personally I think the Finns paid little for helping in a genocide.

    • @sampohonkala4195
      @sampohonkala4195 Месяц назад +1

      @@rurounnu If you bothered to look at a war time map, you would notice thet the Finnish troops were standing on the old border and If a citizen of Leningrad had managed to walk through those troops one would have entered only deeper in Finland. The Finnish troops did not block any connections between the city and the rest of the USSR and therefore Finland was not part of the siege of Leningrad. Finland was only protecting its own territory.

  • @allboxing9851
    @allboxing9851 6 месяцев назад +3

    we want watch laatokka lake too what they stole biggest lake of eu,please wisit there filming

  • @georpwl
    @georpwl 6 месяцев назад +4

    One of your best vlogs!❤

  • @Naturallygreencleaning
    @Naturallygreencleaning 4 месяца назад

    That cat is not poor, he seems well nunourished. But really cute!

  • @craigfinno551
    @craigfinno551 5 месяцев назад

    My last name is Finno is that a russian word?? If yes is it common in russia??

  • @demetriusvolkodav4923
    @demetriusvolkodav4923 6 месяцев назад +4

    I guess in that case New York City is still New Amsterdam… what a beautiful blend of differing architectures, Sveta! Hopefully there will eventually be a push to help preserve Vyborg for many years to come… thanks again!

    • @FlatbushBrooklyn
      @FlatbushBrooklyn 6 месяцев назад

      Can you name the war between the British and the Dutch that resulted in New Amsterdam becoming New York? No? Seems like the Russians have a long history of waging territorial wars of aggression against their neighbors. The Winter War with Finland is a good example. Can you think of a more modern example? Perhaps Ukraine? Or maybe the invasion of Poland in 1939 with the help of their ally Nazis Germany?

    • @gerhard6105
      @gerhard6105 6 месяцев назад +1

      Nieuw-Amsterdam.

    • @mikatimonen5449
      @mikatimonen5449 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@gerhard6105And before that it was New Sweden.

    • @gerhard6105
      @gerhard6105 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@mikatimonen5449 not that exact area. New Sweden was south of New Nederland. We took your area and later the English took all the area. Then we took it back for a year. Then we had to give it to the English.

    • @mikatimonen5449
      @mikatimonen5449 6 месяцев назад

      @@gerhard6105 But before new Netherlands still.
      New Sweden was conquered by the Dutch Republic in 1655 during the Second Northern War and incorporated into the Dutch colony of New Netherland.

  • @tomasarfert
    @tomasarfert 6 месяцев назад +29

    Yes, Russia stole Karelen from Finland. Thet is Russias MO. They stole the whole of Finland once, from Sweden (it was a part of Sweden for 600 years before that, from the time any kingdoms existed in that area), when they for a short while sided with Napoleon.

    • @briantravelman
      @briantravelman 6 месяцев назад +7

      As far as I know, there were no ethnic Russians living there, so what was their excuse that time?

    • @adrianobanak2824
      @adrianobanak2824 5 месяцев назад

      So you were Swedens bit..es for 600 years? How was that? So, if finland was part of Sweden why it is a country today and not a province of Sweden? Russians are gone from finland since 1918.

  • @michaelhoran407
    @michaelhoran407 6 месяцев назад

    The witches’ house in Vyborg is beautiful. Has all tourism between Finland and Russia ended? I remember, before the war, when U.S. Air Force planes used to be parked on the runway at Pulkovo airport in St. Petersburg.

    • @janariviik2634
      @janariviik2634 6 месяцев назад +3

      The border is closed. For a good reason. Genocidal Russia has no right to any international co-operation.

    • @MikaRautio
      @MikaRautio 5 месяцев назад +2

      The border between Finland and Russia is now totally closed until 14.1.2024. There is now legislative work starting in the Finland to change Finnish laws so that it would be possible to keep the eastern border between Finland and Russia closed for ever, if needed. According to todays laws in Finland this is not possible, and this is why the border is opened each month for for some hours. Or for a day or a two.

  • @P6009D
    @P6009D 5 месяцев назад

    St Petersburg is said to have been founded in 1703. In 1702 the city was called Nyen and was Swedish. According to you, you should not call such theft but only territorial changes. If I take your car. Has it then been stolen, or has the car just changed hands?

  • @GwynBleys
    @GwynBleys 6 месяцев назад

    I was born a few km from there but never visited. I have been to 3 corners of Siberia and lived in Ukraine and Belarus tho :)

  • @vilivonkin6243
    @vilivonkin6243 Месяц назад

    there would be 300-400 thousand people now, bigger than tampere of finland city.

  • @Love_rainy_days
    @Love_rainy_days 6 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for sharing Svetlana.👸🌹 Vyborg looks amazing. love the fall colors. Love💖 your channel Happy Holiday with you friend and family. Cheers 🥨🥨🍷🍷🎅

  • @khecke
    @khecke 6 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you, Svetlana, for showing us this part of the world, which I never would see otherwise.

  • @Korpen_1979
    @Korpen_1979 5 месяцев назад +1

    Playing nice traditional Swedish music at the end while drinking nordic glögg....do they serve it with almonds and raisins as it should be served?

  • @ukaszfiuk2719
    @ukaszfiuk2719 3 месяца назад +2

    Russians really polluted this town. What a shame, hope it will be back in Finland one day 🇫🇮

  • @RussLemp
    @RussLemp 6 месяцев назад +4

    do you have a JOB ?

  • @arthura.applegatejr.7145
    @arthura.applegatejr.7145 6 месяцев назад +1

    Do you know what the marble rock said to the geologist ❓
    Don’t take me for Granite ‼️🥸🥸🥸🥰🥸🥸🥸

  • @carlchiles1047
    @carlchiles1047 4 месяца назад

    It’s complicated..I guess beauty IS everywhere..your English is excellent..and I admit you look like American or European actress, .a movie star or TV star..like I said ..it’s complicated..the explaining of it..would take all day..unpretentious..unassuming..down to earth..refreshing..

  • @TravisWhaley-qy2hx
    @TravisWhaley-qy2hx 6 месяцев назад

    10:10 very nice video I like the beautiful park I'm surprised to see graffiti spray painted the walls 😊

  • @JeffSchwenke
    @JeffSchwenke 6 месяцев назад +1

    Nice vlog, Svetlana! I really liked the tram coffee shop and the Monrepos Park.

  • @Albrecht_von_Preussen
    @Albrecht_von_Preussen 6 месяцев назад

    ❤️❤️❤️

  • @juhanivalimaki5418
    @juhanivalimaki5418 25 дней назад

    Crimea and Vyborg actually have two things in common: 1. Both are temporarily occupied by Russia and 2. neither of them ever in history had Russian majority population before 1944 deportation of the original peoples (Finns from Vyborg, Tatars from Crimea).

  • @fredriktimren2242
    @fredriktimren2242 6 месяцев назад +1

    Greetings, from Finland!
    Went through Vyborg in 2013 when visiting Russia!