$1 vs $2000 Firefly
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- In this video, Mr Pokke will be testing in depth all of Firefly eidolons along with his lightcone.
This video will thoroughly cover the character kit, eidolons, energy threshold, speed threshold, relics, lightcones, and team compositions.
Timestamps
00:00 Intro
00:16 Teams / Setup
02:29 E0 S0 On the Fall of an Aeon
08:39 E0 S1
14:01 Firefly with No Ruan Mei
17:30 E1 S1
19:05 E2 S0
21:40 E2 S1
22:51 E3, E4, E5
24:43 E6 S1
27:44 E6 S5 Firefly and E6 S5 Ruan Mei
30:35 Conclusion
32:38 Real Outro
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Not chat missing the point of the vid with 'ohno e6 rm showcase' when shes there from e0s0 all the way to e6s5. Thats the purpose of a BENCHMARK.
Also yes E2 has 1T cooldown!
Defense down stacking overemphasizes e1 effect bro so that skews the e1 vs s1 comparison
Nah pokke, e0 ff pair with e6 rm make the benchmark off.
I mean sure you can see the differences anyway with e0 ff to e6 ff, but still e6 rm does so much work behind the scene that kinda taint the firefly benchmark.
@@crownlix5064 there will be no benchmark for a ff without ruanmei, pela/asta is not a substitute.
U say it's a benchmark but ngl..........the difference is that e6 increase the dmg by so much purely cause of the break dmg Ruan Mei does and since firefly always breaks.......so even though it's a benchmark.........Ruan mei is doing so much it could be her own showcase cause she is doing so much for the team
I think you can do the same video with your account since you got ourfly.
7:25 Half of the DMG being Ruan Mei LMAOO
lmao her dmg 224k alone pretty insane
@@XeosYT On that clip she has e6 Ruan Mei Ult, meaning she has the extra Pen, Harmony TB Ult for BE and the Gallagher Ult's Break Debuff increasing received Damage.
That's not even her "alone" damage my man 😥
Firefly didn’t even superbreak lmao, she doesn’t do “literally half” of Firefly’s own damage
yea the res pen, def ignore and atk buff carrying tf outta firefly lmfao from rm eidolons, and then the rm break from e6 does more break than firefly LOL
Fun fact: you don't have to wait for firefly's technique, if you press it while in the air she immediately attacks
Man's saving Gallagher's ult for the next MoC
The highly relatable Ruan Mei might be doing a little work here 😂
😂😂😂
Nah She performs the Same with E0S0 RM.
@@SerraAbyssAlisarisno
@@SerraAbyssAlisaris The E1 comparison gets skewed because of RM's DEF shred at E1 with how def shred stacks; if it's all E0 characters, the S1 and E1 would be almost equivalent in gain. Ruan Mei is also doing ~176k break even with the bricked build, an E0 Ruan Mei isn't even doing anywhere near half of that, so any kind of cycle performance here requires a grain of salt.
EDIT: and also percentage calculations get skewed if E6 RM is a larger portion of the damage. If you remove 176k from each of the numbers, the % increase in each FF investment would be larger relatively speaking, like the LC would be closer to 16% increase not 10% as he says in the vid. I just think it's a bit dishonest to do comparisons with an E6 RM, should have found a different account to test this on but I guess it's unlikely a whale will have E6 FF and not E6 RM.
There's really no way to compensate for def shred on break damage, that E1 doing work for sure, stacking with relic set
Edit: I just realized she's E6 not E2, yeah the break damage on E6 alone makes this incomparable to E0. Firefly still busted but saying it's identical with E0 RM is pure cap
literally what is even the point of showcasing this with an E6 Ruan Mei
Because FF isn't a unit without RM.
Dawg ungrateful as fuck
I don't see the issue with it. You still get to see the difference in performance based on FF's eidolons and light cone. The only difference is the floor and ceiling of your overall damage output will be lower with an E0 Ruan Mei, but that doesn't matter because you still get a good idea of how the eidolons/light cone affect FF's gameplay.
@@SerraAbyssAlisaris ff is certainly a good unit with e0s0 ruan mei: high eidolon RM definitely exaggerates e1/e2 ff a bit though (still a decently large improvement)
the only significant change is e1, e2 doesn't really do anything, e4 and e6 are for RM's personal dmg
I'm guessing the comment section is going to discuss E6 Ruan Mei 😅
They did on boothill
its each video man
I’m clutching my one copy of memories of the past. Cannot get that LC to drop at all.
same same - just pure copium
I have not got resolutions shines of pearl once its pissing me off lol
Yeah I pulled on both fireflys light cone and ruan meis light cone and got both in 1 10 pull each, wanted more memories 4-star lightcone
I have that lightcone at s10😂
Damn never realized how fast he speaks, put him down to 0.75
bros got the default 1.25 speed 😂
Hi! I love the videos/information that you put out, and your stuff has really helped me make my account better in honkai. However, I think the information on her E2 not having a cooldown is wrong
E2 firefly actually has a 1 turn downtime before she can actually proc the additional turn from breaking again. You can't really tell from this MOC because of the extra turn you get from the trotters resetting the cooldown, but if you try to use her in pure fiction it becomes noticeable-- on her second ult turn you don't get an extra turn even if you break/kill an enemy. Therefore her turns are going to be
Normal turn 1: Skill-> E2 turn
Normal turn 2: Skill
Normal turn 3: Skill-> E2 turn
turn 4: Skill etc
This made her a lot worse than I expected especially for pure fiction, but I was still able to (barely) clear 40k with her team
Also sorry for pinging in discord :( Forgot wasn't supposed to do that
In an ideal scenario it's still a 50% damage increase, which is insane for an E2 eidolon.
I'm curious how you only barely cleared PF. My E2S1 Firefly absolutely rolled it with 2 cycles to spare
@@janablom823 Hm I'm not sure. My firefly is able to kill everything in 1 hit but I feel like there are just too many mobs to kill 3 at a time. I just tried it twice more and both times it was still barely clearing with 10-30 avs left in the lasst cycle
Is your gallaghar able to wipe a wave with his ultimate? Mine is built super poorly and isn't able to. If you are able to, that might be the difference maker since that's essentially saving 1 or 2 firefly actions if you can kill 5 enemies with gallaghar ult
E2 literally cleared in less moves than E6 S5 LMAO
Because E6s5 killed the enemy faster moving the boss sooner thus the shield also gets to move sooner
pay 2 lose
Damn it's 2x speed again
The No RM Edit Portion was Crazy.
Trully one of MrRelatable moment of all time
It's not even 2 seconds in the video, and I already thought I'm at 2x speed 😂
INSANE outro om
pokke is faster than ever with his limitless yap technique 😂 (lowkey thought i was watching 1.5x spd even though i knew hes fast)
I love firefly. Just a whole lotta BOOMS
Just do them with e0s1 units
What's the point with downgraded e6
The whole point of the showcase is to
Give viewers a accurate representation of numbers 🤷
E6 units in most of your showcase videos makes every calculation mostly redundant
I believe pokke's logic during the stream was that he's focusing more so on the relative differences between each eidolon/superimposition. In that sense, if he's using a consistent E6 ruan mei across each test, it still gives an accurate representation of relative damage differences. Like it could be E0 or E4 but either way the relative damage differences remains constant.
@@leightonx7430 That doesn't track really because of how the E1s both have DEF shred, and each point of DEF shred gets more valuable the more that you have of it. And yes in the damage difference would be constant, but he's mathing out percentages, which do not stay constant if you remove E6 RM's damage. If you take the numbers in the video and remove 176k ice damage from each of them, the percentage difference in FF upgrades is much larger than what he reports in the video (like 16% higher on S1 and not 10% higher as he says).
@@fredxu99 yea I agree, I am pretty sure having E1 Ruan mei alone will already inflate the relative damage differences. I was a bit sus of pokke's reasoning but it is what it is I guess.
You can't just remove eidolons off your characters. Trying to actually find an account with E6S5 Firefly (massive whale account) that doesn't already have E6S5 Ruan Mei is probably impossible unless you dish out a few grand on a brand new account.
If you have Gallagher's ult ready when Argenti enter then 0 cycle with E1S0 is definitely doable
While watching this video I pulled for e1 firefly, lost the 50/50 to bronya then the very next ten pull got firefly. Thank you Mr.Pokke 😊
this mf yap so fast that i legit thought the video was on 1.5
I confirmed, My Firefly E0S0 with RM E1 made 1 cycle clear vs Argenti.
Editor is clutching:)
Bro has a built-in 1.25 playback speed.
Not the death counter 💀
4:54 💀
Blazing firefly, The virtuous
Honestly, her 2 supports are the hardest to gear. So you mean to say, I have to have them both over 154 spd when I barely even reached 145 for Talia on my Harmony MC to get the secondary set effect LOL.
Yeah, I end up using vonwaq for RM and HMC because I don’t feel like farming for the speed subs
Chat is so dented
holy shit the editor really took one for the team at the end 😭
11:55 also here the one in the middle got break+supahbreak tech you can see the first FF attack delete weakness and eat a chunk of the elite health and the super break, also the same happened in E6S1 25:25 and the same at the end 27:25
Ladies and Gents e6 or e0 ruan mei doesnt matter, because she does the same damage through out the test, she's a constant, some of yall did not pay attention in grade school science class
Yes but no one at e0 both of them will get that performance anyways that's why the complaining
Lmao great job editor
i watched this on 0.75 speed and he actually sounds normal for once XD
When your supposedly $1 Firefly has cost you your week's salary for that one copy 💀
You guys do realize RM doesn’t discredit how FF is doing insane numbers
Got RM in 60 pulls, LC in 20 pulls. I’ll probably grab Firefly on a rerun, but damn is it hard not to spend money rn.
After seeing the E0S0 dmg.I now feel nice and confident with my 800k E0S0 boothill
800k to a single target with massive downtime or 400k every single turn. There's a reason FF is Tier 0 and BH is 0.5
@@JJennerUKYour Boothill is supposed to build high speed and speed tuned w/ Bronya I have no idea what "massive" downtime you're talking about LMAO. Prydwen again living rent-free in your head even tho they've been warning us not to make their tier list into gospel
@@JJennerUK firefly is the one with downtime lol, boothill break efficency is higher, and he does decent personal dmg with crit traces if you build him properly. Firefly is the jingliu of 2.0
Doesn't E1 firefly outperform S1 because Ruan Mei E1 makes that defense ignore higher? I could be very wrong though.
Just a small example of e6 rm
Harmony character with break support and action forward skill 🤑🤑🤑
Hanya is a better support for firefly than pela if you don't have ruan mei imo
E2 is overkill. So I only went with E1S0 and E1 Fast Mei. The light cone is bait. So I’ll just be using S5 Indelible Promise or my S1 Jingliu LC.
4:56 nah this shit is crazy 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I thought i was on x1.5 speed lol
I’m convinced they could release a unit that does 90% of acherons damage twice as often and people would still say she’s better because all they look at is one big number
are you just ignoring e6 ruan mei 200k per skill comes from her e6 alone
@@vegitoblue6969this isn’t even about firefly I just mean generally, but you can subtract the ruan mei numbers or legit look at any other E0S1 firefly showcase that doesn’t have E6 Ruan Mei and the damage is still insanely high
@@Gamer56257Firefly’s team is nearly BIS atp while Acheron still has yet to get the equivalent for her teams. Not a fair comparison yet
I'm convinced that you could point out FF literally has Ruan Mei while Acheron is yet to get her 5 star Nihility equivalent and people will still say FF is better because of some tier list they saw on the internet
$1 Firefly, unrelatable.
Hope those "pull the character that you want not meta" people that skipped RM are not having problems without her
Nice
e6 rm showcase
When are we going to get a “How to get Firefly for $1” guide? Lol.
Save ur pulls
mr pokke has been lacking
e2 so busted...i got 3600 in apoc... using lvl 70 firefly + mc and 60 lc and rainbow gear with trash substats + ruanmei and huohuo 0.0
chat is firefly + himeko is viable?😂
What a clown
"Budget" Firefly with C6 RuanMei
Yall watch him at 0.75,
I watch him at 1.75
its kinda annoying how they just gave firefly whos already a destruction and bound to do more damage. the better constellations in comparison to boothill. boothill definitely isnt powercrept but yea.
To me E6 doesnt seem that insane. Its basically a bit better than BH or the same. And as for damage her single target damage is like 2.5x less than BH
firefly haters grasping at straws is so funny
E1 rm or e1 firefly
E1 Firefly for better Firefly team, E1 Ruan Mei for better teams in general. Up to you
How tf people already get e6 hmc, i only have e3 her right now😂
fr man, i only have e2 because i'm only level 32 of the statue (just started grinding yesterday) and i was starting to lose hope. then i remembered i gotta do it for the damage so i will prevail and max the statue 😔
Bro u talk too fast
If you're new here i recommend you to watch this guy yap in 0.75x
welcome
Honestly a lot of people are missing the point here. This is not exactly meant to be a showcase of firefly. Mr. Pokke is trying to show the differences between eidolons and superimpositions for firefly and her signature. He’s not trying to showcase damage numbers that firefly puts up. Everyone is complaining that he has a e6 Ruan Mei in the party and that it’s skewing numbers but the reality is that the e6 Ruan Mei makes a major difference in showcasing damage but not showcasing the difference between eidolons and superimpositions for Firefly. The only issue with him having the e6 Ruan Mei as part of the team is that it does skew the performances of certain eidolons for FF that include defence shred but for all the people who are getting annoyed about this you have to remember that this isn’t his account so he was just working with what the account has which happens to be a e6 Ruan Mei.
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If this is a pure FF comparison, should of used Asta or Pela instead of an E6 RM.
Disingenuous to be a showcase when her damage is doubled from something next to no-one has
The only reason I can see why they've put a very bad e4 to FF is due to Acheron. Remember, Acheron is Ei in HSR. In all of their games, Raiden is just busted no matter what the timeline is so she can't get powercrept just yet.
Ps. Personally on F2P players, she already did powercrept acheron. Especially if the acheron is only using GNSW.
why was he banned? lmao
Tingyun dakimura
@@luapgr did he do something with in on stream?
@@wafIeee I hope not 💀, cause for the dakimura itself its weird cause she has a lotta clothes on
BRO WTF ARE YOU TALKING
I feel you need rm for sure with ff to do DMG while rm for boothill is just good upgrade he already does more DMG they butchered ff ngl kinghill on top
mr chokke i beg of you pls stop using this E6 Ruan Mei in this "Showcases" it's just impossible to take it serious.
This speed of conversation no longer seems funny.
yeah... firefly is not better then boothill at e0 s1 or at e6 s5. she just does less damage. doing 1m max at e6 s5 is crazy low.
Sure bud. Good luck with ur 1 cycle clears on this Break focused MoC while also running sustainless
keep coping, she blows every dps out of the water, prob the only dps that can 0 cycle with a sustain. we dont even no wut 5 star gall going to bring into the table and a proper break support instead of ruan mei.
@HSRFirefly I'm not talking about moc I'm talking in general, boothill is just better for single target. While Firefly does 500k to 3 targets, boothill does 500k+ to one target.
@HSRFirefly you should cry bc it will happen the same way for fifrly you simp
@@omegaklee12345 I did a zero cycle with boothill without RM