Dune - Movie REACTION!!
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- Опубликовано: 23 окт 2021
- Eric Rick Calvin and Aaron react to and discuss the 2021 Denis Villeneuve Sci-fi Movie - Dune - #Dune
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Another amazing reaction and pls react to lego star wars terrifying tale and shang chi and venom 2
I didn't see subtitles. I feel like you could open subtitles for these moments where people speak different languages.
Are you guys not going to react to the new Ghostbusters trailer?
In answer to your question about ridding a worm @52:00 The hooks that you saw Kynes brandishing before she was killed, pry open the skin of the worm exposing its innards to the harsh abrasive sand. A worm will keep the exposed area away from the sand and not submerge, allowing the Freemen to ride them.
I feel like I signed up to be in a dune study class….I like it😁❤️🔥🔥🔥🔥
"Why can't the shields deflect things that are moving fast or slow?"
They can be calibrated to block slow-moving things, but then the wearer suffocates because air can't pass through.
yey!
Yeah, it’s the same sort of logic with kinetic barriers in the mass effect series. They block fast moving projectiles like bullets but nothing slow moving, because it wouldn’t allow the user to sit on a chair for example.
That was the only thing I didn’t understand but that makes a lot of sense
If that's the case, calibrate them to block everything, and then have them all wear breathing suits.
@@rolypoly4920 If it blocked everything you wouldn’t be able to pick your sword up.
"(sees)Whatever a teenage boy sees."
"Zendaya?"
I'm dead.
As a teenager I can confirm
RIP in peace bro
as a teen boy yes
Cheems bonk incoming
@@loseljukes5204 Zendaya is my number 1 fr
The soundtrack and tone of this movie actually kept me in a trance, this might be Sci fi cinematography at its peak imo
The score was obnoxious. Are you kidding me??? Why do I need to hear “bom bom bom” to the character looking at the sun? When his character before and after did nothing to warrant that dramatic sound???
The soundtrack doesn't have much in the way of melodic hooks or anything, but it sure as hell builds the atmosphere.
Cinematography looked flat to me.
@@flaggerify did u watch the movie?
@@deacon_smith1064 I did. Flat and murky. With the usual desaturated grading and overblown highlights.
Saw this in theaters, when someone used 'The Voice' it shook the entire theater.
Loved that.
Yeah I saw it in IMAX and it did this, it completely took over me
Same!
I interpreted the “I’ll show you ways of the desert” thing as this: It didn’t happen exactly as Paul saw it, but ultimately Jamis did teach Paul a lesson by challenging him to that duel. He learned a lot about the Fremen culture from Jamis’ challenge.
You nailed it
This exactly
And he had to learn to kill. As Jessica pointed out, he had never killed before, and you could see it in his face, it was a life-changing experience.
That's a good interpretation. I saw it more as one of the many futures Paul could have had.
Interesting rationalisation, but not quite. It was a potential future that did not occur. Similar with the prescient vision that Paul had about Fremen Duncan - it could have happened but it didn't. In general, oracular visions in the Dune universe are not absolutes nor are they symbolic. They reveal potential futures that *may* come to pass.
Sucks that you guys couldn’t see this in cinemas, it’s an unearthly experience.
i got to see it in a drive-in theather.. far from ideal but even so dont regret it at all
@@hnestly1355 but you can’t hear what the characters are saying due to said soundtrack
@@PizzaHutCEO same lmao the soundtrack was beautiful and insane but it did muffle some dialogue.
Agree. The sound is so massive it just sucks you in.
@@PizzaHutCEO not at all, I heard every word and the dialogue was written great.
I think the thing that impressed me the most about this movie over the 80's version, is how they explained so much stuff visually without narration. It's impossible for me to know how effective that was for people who are not familiar. But little things like how the mentants's eyes roll up when they are processing was cool. Also like the fighting scene, not explaining the how shields work, and that Gurney Halleck was serious and stressed just by acting and not exposition. Very well done.
I lost it at Muad’dib scene when they showed it taking in water gathered in it’s ears. If you read the book you surely know what I mean. Great attention to details.
As someone not familiar with the book or previous versions, I thought it did a really good job of providing a lot of subtle explanations and interweaving its exposition. There was a lot of terms and concepts to get the audience familiar with, but I found it all pretty clear. I've seen some book fans wishing for the mother to have internalized more of her emotions and for other characters to have had more backstory explained, but just watching this film and seeing what they're asking for, I'm happy with how it was executed here. Instead of relying on a lot of narration, I think they really integrated the character beats well throughout the film.
I thoughts they did a great job with that. I wondered how they were going to cover so many things in such a small amount of time & was very impressed.
Yes THANKFULLY!
Base rule of books and movies: if you have to dump exposition or constantly narrate the events, you've done f'd up.
This? This is how to do it.
Haven't watched the 1984 version nor read the books but I think they explained everything rather well, I understood the whys/what/where that was happening and what was important. I understood how the tech worked, including the shields. All in all, it was easily digestible.
The reason there is little to no use of guns is because the personal sheilds are designed to stop fast moving objects from passing through, rendering bullets obsolete and well, primitive. Slow moving objects however can pass by easily (and allows oxygen to flow by).
Laseguns do exist (those lasers that cut through anything), however if the beam of the gun comes in contact with the shield, a chain reaction occurs with an explosion equivalent to a nuclear bomb.
Thats why melee weapons are so vital to combat.
Nuclear weapons are also outlawed so if you use las gun on a shield intentionally you and your planet will get oblitorated.
There's a random chance that the chain reaction can travel back along the laser beam and detonate the attacker's weapon, resulting in a devastating explosion and destroying them as well. This made laser weaponry far too dangerous to be used in combat, since basically everyone began using shields for protection (personal shields, starship shields, city shields, etc.) after this technology was invented.
These nearly impenetrable shields made almost all conventional guns useless and energy weapons too dangerous to use. Far future humanity was forced to revert back to slow moving swords, daggers and other simple hand weapons for most types of combat.
I must say, that has got to be the best explanation of any sci-fi to re-introduce melee combat into a futuristic world.
That's been my problem with Marvel at times. Reality-warping abilities used basically to just get close enough to punch people in the face.
Can it deflect lasers or a light saber?
@@theawesomeman9821 Laser/lightsaber + shield = nuclear blast
Such a faithful adaptation. The only thing that doesn't come across yet is how epic the scale of the events unfolding actually is, but that's also part of being the first book. For non-book readers the main thing to understand is that the books take a lot of time to explain the concepts behind how and why things work the way they do in this vision of the far future.
Nice to hear, you usually don't get too many faithful adaptations of books
as a book reader I was also thrilled at how accurate it was!!
For me, my biggest takeaway was the sense of scale.
very accurate, a huge part of the book is explaining what is going on and what is going through the characters minds, which I thought they did a pretty good job at conveying in the film.
Best reboot ever
No…. Not all blue eyes people are Fremen… it’s anyone that has had long exposure to the spice. Hence why the workers on the harvesters have the bright blue eyes…….(however, it is fair to assume that blue eyes equals fremen, since all fremen do have it)
Correct. Spice addiction is rampant so anyone that eats or is exposed to spice regularly will have the blue eyes.
Without spoilers, Jessica has been teaching Paul the mystical arts and mental focus of the Bene Gesserit. The spice is hyper- activating those abilities and the prescience.
I've never read the books and that seemed perfectly communicated in the film.
@@Ahov Yeah I didnt read the book but I paid attention to every line said, it was easy to understand.
@@dunerat42 couldn't get spell check to recognize. Thanks and will change.
@@helloneighbour2408 it really is, not sure why so many people are confused. I went with a group of friends who had never read the books or seen the movie and they understood.
@@dunerat42 I've read almost all the books including the preludes. But it would be difficult to mention that Paul had Mentat training without discussing more about Thufir Hawat and that school.
If y'all think Denis is gonna need 4 years to make a sequel, you might want to check this guy's filmography - he made 7 films in the last 10 years, the man's output is inhuman.
The date is already set for October 2023.
And he says he took a break during that time. And many of those movies were enormous productions requiring extensive pre and post production, no jaunts through a cobbled together indie.
I was caught off guard when the trailer for part 2 dropped. 'Wait, already?' was my first thought cuz it honestly felt like Spiderman and other franchises took way more time between releases.
@@itzelwisteria1819 everyone loves working with him and everyone wants to be apart of a Villenueve film and he garners synergy through his leadership which is why everything comes out to be magnificent and in a timely fashion. That’s what I gathered from interviews and researching.
@@treytilley333same here from what I’ve seen!
The prophecies are made to be understood philosophically. Jamis did teach him the ways of the desert, by dying to Paul's blade.
Just as Paul did die during the fight, as "killing another man also kills oneself", so Paul died and Usul rose in his place.
OMG. Yes. There are smart people out there who don't understand this. I've been telling people from the very beginning and they are like, oh.
@@thefandomrealm That was said in his vision! That's why figured out he had to kill Jamis in order to Paul to die!
Thx for explaining
Saw this in theaters with a Finnish friend. When the name Harkonen came up, she whispered "sounds like a Finnish surname" (it really, really does). Next thing on the screen we see Stellan Skarsgård naked in some kind of steamchamber. She whispered "It's a sauna!" and we both broke down in giggles.
Harkonnens are clearly Finnish in my canon
"If I say the waitress will fall and then I trip her it's not as interesting"
Yeah but if you told a bunch of people that this specific waitress will fall for thousands of years building a Mythology and trip her without anyone noticing it becomes quite quite bit more impressive
Like Jim Halpert using "telekinesis" to move the coat rack.
And if you made efforts to breed genetics during that time to eventually produce a waitress who will trip and fall in just the way you want to cause people to frame the event in the way you intended, your bag is sealed. Lol
× The Sardukar "language" is just a battle language that only they know, so even intercepted communications are useless to an enemy. They ALSO speak the Imperial Common that everyone does, therefore The Voice still works on them.
× The Benne Geserit have EXTREME control over their own bodies. They can control any one muscle w/o involving any other (try that), they can isolate poisons inside their own bodies then change them into water at will, they can control IF they get pregnant, AND the sex of the baby. They can look DOWN THEIR ANCESTRAL DNA to get answers from any of their female ancestors.
These powers the natives call the Weirding Way, which is mythical/religious/legend.. These allow them EXTREME martial arts prowess, on the verge of magic.
They are sworn unto death not to divulge these secrets, so the offer to teach the fremen the weirding way is an unprecedented opportunity for the Fremen warriors. They would NEVER pass that opportunity up, nor allow ANYONE to harm the woman who is teaching them.
if they can control the sex of their babies then how come jessica had paul?
@@hivera9665 she gets in trouble for it in the movie. It’s explained she didn’t give the bene gesserait the girl they wanted
@@ghostface8667 yeah i wanted to know her thought process though, for whichever reason she couldn’t control the pregnancy 🧐
@@hivera9665 well I’ll give some context for you but warning, it’s got spoilers for dune 2
You’ve been warned:
Paul’s mom betrays the bene Gesserait and trains the Fremen the ways of sorcery so they can fight the emporers army
@@hivera9665 she could control the pregnancy but Leto asked her for a son. She had to choose between the Order or Leto. She chose to give Leto a son because she loved him.
Dune is a magnificent series of novels. I cannot recommend them highly enough. The fourth book is an absolute masterpiece.
This movie adapted book 1 right
@@wrath5454 Half of book 1 i guess
Dune and Emperor God are my favorites by far, but the others are excelent as well
God Emperor is my favorite!
@@flotilha935 God Emperor is, by far, my favorite. With Dune Messiah and Children of Dune, following after.
"I've seen all this before" I feel like 'Valerian and Laureline' and 'John Carter of Mars' suffered from this. People watched them and felt they were full of tired tropes, and yet they were each the source of almost all of those tropes.
God I loved John Carter. So underrated and its unfortunate we didn't get a sequel.
Geonosis and it's inhabitants from SW ep 2 felt like John Carter's Mars.
37:50 “But why doesn’t it go further in the ground?” Sandworms are covered in a tough, leathery series of ring segments that protects their soft, sensitive inner skin from the abrasive sand. Worm-Riders use tools called “Maker Hooks” which they imbed at the edge of the ring and then use to pry the edge up. The worms reflexively rotate their bodies to get the exposed flesh as far from the sand as they can, and stay on the surface until the Worm-Riders remove the hooks. The hooks are also used to control the direction the worm travels by being placed on different sides of their bodies. 🤓
Thx
holy shit thanks
Movie was a great adaptation of the book, whole environment matches, political machinations, the techniques of the people in it and just the way the story plods along. Now that doesn't guarantee that you'll like the movie since the book was hard to get into even for an avid book reader like me. In any case I'm happy I saw this in theaters, truly a great performance from everyone involved.
This comment plods along. Is reading so very hard for you?
@@andrewglassman5052 This reads like an 80's bully line from a movie.
I did like it, I enjoyed supporting it in theaters; but I don’t think the story fits the theatrical release format… like ‘No Time to Die’ felt a little stretched across ≈2.5 hours, but there’s SOOO much Dune to cover in ≈2.5 hours
@@sleptking1707 Your Mom's an 80's Bully.
I tried to start the book and had a hard time, then I went to see the movie and it made it so much easier to re-approach the book and appreciate it. I havent be able to put it down since seeing the movie. And when I think back to the movie I can see how great an adaptation it was.
Zendaya collected the easiest paycheck in the world with her role in this movie. Shoutout to her lol
only 4 days on set lol
She'll have a lot more work in Part 2 tbf
she's probably 2nd to Mark Hamill's part in The Force Awakens
Remember lena headey in season 8?
Lmao
The idea about how Duncan (in particular) fights with his blades is that he was trained on a planet called Ginaz, where the best swordsmen in the galaxy are. Presumably they have developed a technique of subtle motions within conventional swordstrokes that allows a blade to bypass a shield more readily, so that it seems as if they didn't slow down at all.
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It's a flimsy explanation, but considering the themes of Dune, while not an explicit part of the books, would fit quite readily. Ginaz was also (according to the prequels by Herbert's son) the last place one could find thinking machines, after the Jihad against them. The Swordmasters there used the machines to train to fight the machines. Which is why their students are the best. They literally trained to fight opponents with super-human strength, speed, and precision. Like Batman sparring with Superman.
Its not really a flimsy explanation. Its basically the same in the book.
I mean even in the 2nd book they had sword fighting machines that Paul trained with. You didn't need computers to push peoples swordsmanship to the limit.
Thx
Calvin was so enthralled he didn't even sip his drink until the film was over lmao
"This is just like Arrival!" Arrival was also directed by Villeneuve.
I was literally just thinking, "I wonder if Blind Wave has reacted to Dune yet." and here you guys are uploaded 5 or so minutes ago.
Just finished the movie last night, and although it felt incomplete (being a part 1), it still felt like a masterpiece. Especially visually.
I couldn't believe 2.5 hours went by when it ended. Literally thought we were halfway through the movie lol
I wanted 3.5 hours. I think it would have been a masterpiece
it was too short lol
Technically speaking, we are halfway through the movie--still half a book to go.
same lols
@@el34glo59 Dune would be like the next Lord of the Rings trilogy hahaha
There is a scene when Paul and his mother are in the "tent thing" and Paul goes into panic rant about the future. That is a pretty good breadcrumb about the scope of what Paul is facing, or will face. That is, if you haven't read the books.
Loved that part in the movie
his acting was too good
I freaking cried during this scene. I know there are those who criticize his casting but he is exactly what I imagined Paul looking like and his acting was fabulous. His best performance since "Call Me By Your Name".
Haven't read the books but because of the concept of seeing the past and future I was so intrigued for that scene! My gosh I cannot wait to see the reveal. Gave me the same feeling as another anime I saw that deals with the same concept.
@@moonlightstripess Same! Maybe we’re thinking of the same anime but I don’t want to spoil it for those who haven’t seen it. Fascinating stuff!
I don't know man (and I'm one who usually agrees with Eric on most things when it comes to movies) but this completely blew me away. As someone who has never had any prior exposure to Dune, this film had me gripped the entire way through. It's been a very long time since a film got me invested as much as this one did. Incredibly gorgeous to look at, Hans Zimmer's score was phenomenal (I will definitely be listening to this film's score for a long time coming), acting was off the charts (Chalamet specifically was outstanding), and I'm completely drawn into this world. I'm a massive sci-fi fan, and I've seen plenty of films or tv shows that are good, but are also just cut-and-paste of other familiar stories. This felt new and fresh. Also (and I normally never say this because most films don't really warrant it in my opinion) but this movie NEEDS to be seen on the biggest screen possible. The experience of watching this in IMAX was unreal. It's extremely rare for me to consider a film a "masterpiece" ... but my god, Dune was a masterpiece and a masterclass of the sci-fi genre. Cannot wait for Part 2.
Also, it's very easy to see why George Lucas drew an immense amount of inspiration from the Dune book for Star Wars.
Yeah but he was busy joking with Aron and missing serious stuff in the movie thats why he didnt get gripped
It's cause they watched it at home on the TV lmao
@@mojiyoru6441 i watch most of the movies at home tho, i loved Dune, i mean, not everybody needs to agree with me but still hahaha
I thought it was close to a masterpiece. But they could have had more interactions with characters. More intimate ones. So I cared just a hair more about some of them dying off. I also thought tbe editing was fast one some parts. Cut scenes when I wanted more. I loved it. But a hair off a masterpiece. I can't explain it. I want a directors extended edition more than anything
@@mojiyoru6441 Nah I watched it at home. I didn't watch dune for effects and sound
Rick looks like he regrets that he not went to the movie theater,
and his face says "Dudes please at least shut up....". 😁
Totally understandable, i would be too
Yeah he had to spell everything out for them, instead of them just letting the scenes play out
I hope they get more into how crazy important the water is. Reading the book, it's like everything anyone does on Arrakis is to preserve water. It just takes over everything
The dinner party scene would have been a great addition to the film.
I get that it’s a reaction, but I feel like I don’t know, it was less reacting to what was on screen and more focusing on unrelated tangents and that’s one of the things I find hard about reactions because it’s like not what you want to see and you just know it takes away from the personal experience of watching a film when there is so much that takes away your focus.
36:20 Yes, he does. Paul has to adapt to fighting without a shield. In the book he keeps slowing down for the actual strike to get past a shield. The Fremen think he's fucking with Jamis and consider it bad form.
Watched this movie in theatres today. I was hoping you guys were going to do the discussion/review soon but didn't expect the reaction. This movie was so epic and majestic, with the haunting score behind every masterfully crafted visual that is simply mesmerizing.
Yeah, they are more interested in clicks for their streaming channel...
@@evaaudelo986 I mean why wouldn’t you take an opportunity for your business & always growing your business over just simply seeing a movie in theaters? Sounds like an easy choice
I hope they end up seeing it in IMAX.
Fun fact. The fat harkonnen isn't flying. . He's just floating on anti grav tech because he's too heavy to move on his own
I liked at the end, during Paul's duel, he saw a pile of bodies in a vision right before he took his first life. I found it a good representation of the bodies he must create and climb during his future journeys. Although long, it kept my attention and I like the flow of the story. It was easy to understand without too much exposition. I enjoyed it.
I think it also might be Paul's realization that no matter what happened, if he lived or died the killing would still be carried out in his name, by that point it's unstoppable.
This is the type of movie that IMAX was made for.
It was very suprising that you guys are not more familiar with the Dune universe. It was one of the biggest influences behind Star Wars and Game of Thrones.
I've always felt that Game of Thrones was just a fantasy version of Dune, but is that actually confirmed to be a direct inspiration?
@@fakecubed Game of Thrones was inspired by actual history. The wars surrounding the political climates and family bloodlines are all things taken from real people and real stories. I love Dune but people go overboard when they say it inspired Game of Thrones. They only say that because of the similar large world and lore behind it. But in truth it has no ties to it. Like Dune, Game of Thrones is its own thing.
@@johnjoseph6874 I've since heard that GRRM was inspired a lot by Dune, and Lord of the Rings, but between the two books, that covers basically the inspirations for all modern genre fiction.
Anyway, Dune itself was inspired by actual history too. It's really just the Holy Roman Empire, mixed with Middle East jihads and crusades, and a bit of Far East religion and language sprinkled in for good measure. Every good story is going to be good because it feels connected to the real world, true things that happened, or could happen.
After watching Dune, I've realized that everything what I thought made Star Wars unique is not unique.
Honestly, I'd rather watch dune, as long as they nail this as a trilogy, than starwars. It's deeper. More human and gritty while being futuristic. Idk I just love how it started. We'll see how it ends
@@el34glo59 I like the OG Star Wars but compared to the prequels and sequels, Dune is way better.
Literally dune came out as a book in the 60's, so we can guess where George ideas came from originally
@@tomaskorganoff2779 yeah
Nah, Star Wars is still unique. There are a lot of differences imo
The key thing to understand and that I hope the second film makes clear is that Paul is not a hero, he's an antihero. The visions he sees are of multiple possible futures. Jamis giving him advice was from a future where they didn't fight (possibly a future where Jessica wasn't with him). That he sees multiple futures and not just one, makes him fallible and dangerous, particularly once the Jihad is launched in his name, with fanatical legions commiting atrocities trying to avoid a possible future he sees. That's why he's so upset with his mother in the tent scene as he can see this in his visions. Dune is the ultimate critique of the white saviour story. Paul and his mother manipulate the locals and their traditions. To quote: “The bottom line of the Dune trilogy is: beware of heroes. Much better to rely on your own judgment, and your own mistakes. Dune was aimed at this whole idea of the infallible leader because my view of history says that mistakes made by a leader (or made in a leader's name) are amplified by the numbers who follow without question… I am showing you the superhero syndrome and your own participation in it…”
- Frank Herbert
I thought that was clear in this film. We saw that his visions weren’t always the future that came to pass and he said as much when asked about it.
@@scarlettmi I meant it will be made clear in the second film that he’s an antihero
@@sarah.the.clumsy 1- not mansplaining since I’m not addressing anyone in particular (not sure what my gender has anything to do with my comment, nor why you presume what my gender is). 2 - It will only become apparent he’s an antihero in part 2, so I’m just saying you’re not getting much of that so far. 3- are you having a bad day? 4- just wanted to share that Frank Herbert quote as it’s a good sum up of the theme
@@sarah.the.clumsy That’s not what mansplaining means, Sarah. I can’t tell if you’re trolling or not, but discussing a piece of art in the comment section intended to discuss that piece of art isn’t mansplaining. Are you doing a bit?
@@ChrisRowe Ah, I think we got hints of that in his tent vision, but I’m really looking forward to a sequel unpacking that more. I can’t decide if it want to read the books now or wait until after the films, because I really enjoyed watching it this way, semi-fresh except for all the elements that have influenced other sci-fi/fantasy works over the last several decades.
Literally just back from watching this in IMAX, can't imagine any other way to watch it. The sound design, soundtrack and visuals turned up to 11
So bizarre that we wound up getting adaptations of Foundation, Dune, and Wheel of Time all within a couple of months, not to mention the Witcher for dessert. My cup runneth over! I need a bigger cup to stop the runnething! 🥳
Hell of a time to be alive, entertainment wise at least.
Foundation has been up and down for me.
I don’t think you all felt the full experience of this movie by watching it on the small screen and cracking jokes every 10 seconds. It’s a shame because you missed out on such an epic movie.
Well some theaters aren't open and maybe they don't feel safe going to them just yet.
They really didn't. This movie sucked
@@nono-ch8oy You replied to literally every comment saying they liked the movie. That's so lame and pathetic.
no eric NOOO. 1:11:15 I will not let you besmirch this score. it's not the movie's fault you guys didn't see it in the cinema. the sound design and the score was a physical experience. hans zimmer managed to create a unique sci-fi score that I think hasn't been done before. I felt like the score was reaching into my soul, squeezing my heart, chattering my teeth. even that scene when jessica used the voice to kill the harkonnens, the sound of her voice made me gasp. it felt like she was both screaming and whispering in my ear. there no way you'd get the same effect watching it in you studio. PLEASE GO SEE THIS IN IMAX
Completelly agree
Yep. If you haven´t seen and heard this movie in IMAXX, then you haven´t seen this movie at all as far as i am concerned.
I feel Eric went in to this wanting to hate on it. Probably do to his love of Star Wars and people probably always telling him that Dune is better. So he went in with a bad attitude.
@@Neofilmcritic or he just has a different opinion and that’s completely okay
@@christopherstrickland1745 EXACTLY! I'm sad because I know if they'd seen it in IMAX they'd be raving now. like yeah sure it's an incomplete movie, it's just part one. but the visuals and the sound are a whole experience. I hope they read the comments and decide to go and see it on the big screen
You have to remember that Dune was the scifi book that inspired - Star Wars , Battlestar Gallectica, Star Trek and everything scifi that came after.
Star Trek came before Dune
It's true that Dune inspired a lot of sci-fi but Dune was itself was inspired by Foundation. Funny how the movie and tv-show are released at the same time.
Dune came before Star Trek though, but only a year. I doubt the creation of Star Trek TOS was influenced by Dune but the later series contain many references to Dune.
George Lucas read Dune, thought that was too complicated a story for kids, dumbed it down, played the messiah trope straight instead of subverting it as Dune does, and then made Star Wars. Apparently Frank Herbert was quite furious at the blatant rip-off. But Frank Herbert told a much better story.
@@Blackhawk211 false lol
I would hardly call Star Wars a “blatant rip-off”. While there certainly are similarities, the tone and storytelling are completely different and there’s a lot more fantasy elements in Star Wars than in Dune. And while it’s nowhere near as deep as Dune, Star Wars is much more broad, with an entire Galaxy of aliens and wizards. Yes, it’s more child friendly, but that does not inherently make it inferior or simplistic.
About the dreams. Not every dream he has becomes reality. So when you see them, you don't know if it's the future or just a dream.
It's possible futures.
They are dreams of things that may come to pass if he takes the actions that lead towards them.
I can't wait for the Vision of the Golden Path
@@systemofafox6487 correct ne if im wrong but didnt He kinda dream about that in the vision where Hes leaving arrakis after einning the war with zendaya by his side
@@jackbrian7083 It's close, yeah.
@@jackbrian7083 that’s the Jihad. He is not the one who sees the golden path or at least not most of it. He sees the Jihad in its entirety. But The Golden Path is seen by the God Emperor
Eric, you can’t watch this on tv, then complain it doesn’t look, feel or sound epic. Make a theater run now.
Seriously, his comment was peak idiocy (and I’m a fan of Eric)
I watched this movie on my damn phone and every single scene felt epic af.
@@ManSeekingMeaning up there with "a sarlacc pit that moves"...Dune came first.
@@There1sn0spo0n And was cited by Lucas as one of his inspirations.
It was his first opinion, wtf did you expect him to base the Visual's off of if he has only seen it on TV?
There are 6 books written by Frank Herbert then he died and his son took his father's notes and started writing the current series which explain ALOT of the backstory by going into the past explaining the machine crusade where the AI enslaves humanity and the Butlerian jihad in which they gained freedom from the machines. The biggest law becomes, not to make a machine in the likeness of a human mind. This is why mentats came into being, they are humans capable of computation and analysis through spice and other drugs.
Unfortunately the Son doesn't have his father's understanding of deep philosophy and religious theory. After the first six, the rest feel a little like just shallow action stories.
yeah theyre cool books just for the lore but definitely dont reach the level of storytelling the original series did
BH and KJA books are dangerous for integrity of FH's Dune lore. The main problems are not low imagination level, shallow storytelling and not-masterful use of language but stupid retcons. If you read closely you can see that wrong lore-killer decisions. In Jihad trilogy and sequel books, with Omnibus and Erasmus, they turned Dune into kinda copy of Terminator duology by James Cameron. But Dune is no Terminator story. It is more painful, and realistic despite its kinda fantastic substance.
Frank Herbert in six books: Humans are enemies of humankind and humans exploit other humans by using AI by never losing the reins of AI. But humans with AI seduced the beauty of their own creation and never stopped to use it. Exploited humans rebelled against humans with thinking machines. And Butlerian (butler+ian) Jihad started. Humans who were against the dependency on AI won.
BH and KJA: Humans made AI and then lost its reins. So battle between ultimate evil AI and humans started. Humans won.!!!?????? But this is not FH actually meant! This just oversimplifies, reduces and ignores the richness of Dune's main Frank Herbertdish argument. This makes Dune a non-Dune.
And they did this intentionally. I do not think that they did not understand FH's main idea. I think that this was a deliberate act and I do not know why.
Why shattering the integrity of Dune's lore?
This is so frustrating. To be honest, I initially really wanted to love Extended Dune books. But now, no.
@@jrobertlysaght Yeah, I mean, he ends up having Duncan Idaho revealed as ultimate kwisatz haderach.
I will just answer possible future questions and give interesting facts:
- Greg Fraser is the cinematographer of this film as well as the upcoming Batman
- The film was shot in Abu Dhabi, Hungary, Jordan, and Norway
- Hans Zimmer dreamed of writing an ost to Dune
- Paul's blue eyes mean that he has been using Spice for a long time, like Fremen
- There was a war against machines in the Dune universe, and therefore there is no Artificial intelligence and advanced technologies, the inhabitants of different planets have abandoned them, and rely only on their skills, experience, skills in mechanics, engineering, etc...
- The Bene Gesserit is an order of priestesses /witches / fortune-tellers (different cultures and mentalities perceive and call them differently) consisting only of women who have influence within political foundations and represent themselves as advisers/ mentors close to royal families (like Arethusa sorceresses from the Witcher universe, well, almost ...)
--The bald guys who stood next to Vladimir Harkonnen (The Flying Fat Man) when he took a bath are Mentats, they are a living archive and a guide
-Those who attacked the Atreides at night are the Sardukars, one of the strongest armies and the personal guard of the Emperor (the Harkonens are even less cruel compared to them, and unless only the Foremen can repulse them, by the way, they are one of the reasons why the Emperor was never dethroned) ruthless, real self-murderers, carry out any orders (somewhat reminiscent of the Outriders of the "Space Dogs" from the Avengers:Infinity War) when you saw a scene with Mongolian singing under a rain shower, then pay attention there people were sacrificed in the form of a ritual, this is one of their traditions...(according to the Aztec type)
Aaron’s ADHD is off the walls in this video.
It's called stupidity.
cant really blame him lol. I think the movie is great but its not very "exciting" imo so his brain has a lot more room to wander.
yeah.. was actually really annoyed at some point hahaha
he annoyed me a lot ngl
Glad to know I'm not the only one.
So Eric is biggest Star Wars fanboy, but he wasnt impress by the Dune? Thats fucking hilarious
I agree with him. I can watch SW all day, every day. This movie was so fucking boring and just a slog to get through. I wanted to pass out halfway through lmao
@@nono-ch8oy you’re missing the blokes point. Star Wars is inspired by dune. Has the same story beats
@@nono-ch8oyDune is literally Star Wars’ blueprint except a million times more intense and in depth. But sure.
@@a.j.1819I think that might be why Star Wars is more digestible for some people. For all intents and purposes SW is kinda like a “baby’s first sci-fi” and because of that the world building is more implied and easier to jump in and not lose interest for some people
@@a.j.1819 well I guess the blueprint sucks then. SW made it better.
Man the dudes with glasses would not stfu, I could not watch a movie with em 😹
Two in the middle should start their own show
Don’t you dare talk about out blind wave boys like that! Eric and Aaron are kings
I’ve had to only watch Eric and Rick reactions or movies that Aaron doesnt react to. He talks way too much but just says the dumbest things and asks the most inane questions just to fill the air
The dreams are symbolic and metaphorical. Jamis did teach him the ways of the desert "It's kill or be killed". Also house Atreidis is from ancient Greece. It was the house of king Agamemnon, king Menelaos, Orestis, Iphigenia, Electra, Clytemnestra. Have you ever read Homer? They were literally a cursed house (spoiler from the Dune books the Atreidis descendants with the gift of sight are called cursed). Atreas and his bloodline was cursed by his own father when he accidentally caused his younger brother's death. Another nice link from ancient Greece with the movie is the bull. The Atreidis curse was broken when Orestis returns with his sister Iphigenia from Taurida - Land of the Bulls.
Jesus crist 💀 Aaron decided to become a professional film critic by watching this movie. relax my friend
Well watching a bad movie does that to you. This movie sucked for me and I critiqued the hell out of it for it. When I enjoy a movie, I just sit and watch it
The vision with Jamis is actually not in the books (at least not that I remember), but I really liked it. Because the theme with the visions in the Dune franchise is that they only show a possible future and not one that is set in stone. All of Paul's visions in this movie were possibilities and he has not yet learned how to know which path leads to which future. As a book reader, I found the idea of a future where Jamis was a friend and a mentor quite fascinating.
I like that, but I also like to look at it as being symbolic of Jamis' importance to Paul even with the way events actually played out. They only briefly met and then Paul killed him, but Jamis plays a pivotal role in Paul's life. I think Paul having visions of him as a mentor is an interesting way to show this connection without having to state it in dialogue.
I was a friend of Jamis.
@@fakecubed ...and as his friend - who also killed him - it is my sad duty to now take his wife and his coffee set.
‘Did you see the Star Wars references?’
Oh dear oh dear 😅
I think they meant this is what inspired Star Wars since they did talk about how old the book is but the rephrasing was weird indeed
I gotta give WB credit for the way they handled Dune, just imagine how Disney would have directed it.
At least they would have marketed it better and didn't betray the box office chance. Wb at least charge 10-15 dollars at hbo max
@@MoviesAndTvShowsAreSubjective true
I saw this movie in IMAX last night and honest to god it was one of the best movie going experiences of my life! And while I loved that you recorded your reactions to this movie I feel bad that this was how you first experienced this movie and not in IMAX.
With Arrival, Blade Runner 2049, and now Dune Part One Dennis in my opinion has now solidified himself as one of the best sci-fi and all around filmmakers of our time.
yeah same, saw it on big screen. And thought the same, im sorry for them to first see this on a TV
This was a horrible movie. Boring to a T.
@@denM-ey3vb everyone ignore the troll.
Just saw this tonight on IMAX and it was simply stunning on the big screen. Some shots are breathtaking. I’m going to enjoy seeing you react to this, but I’m a bit gutted your first viewing is on a TV and not the way it was designed to be seen, which is on the biggest screen possible. I hope you go to a cinema to see it too.
Not sci-fi but his movie Sicario was also amazing. He can do no wrong.
The main thing I dislike about this movie is knowing how long I'll have to wait until I get to see a part II.
@Nikki 115 Not confirmed but from what the heads of WB and Legendary are saying, it seems very likely.
@Nikki 115 its been confirmed for October 2023
@Nikki 115 no studio is crazy enough to put "Part I" in the start of the movie without having a Part II in the works lmao
They’ll be a part II, WB is building a HBOMAX franchise, Dune is the foundation. There’s the Benegeserrit show and I believe the other Dune books will be HBOMAX limited series for each.
hope the budget holds up
Novels should be tv series. Each chapter an episode. Each book a season. They can still make part 2 a miniseries.
@@raam726 I agree, though WB just announced Part II to be released in cinemas October 2023. There’s still 60% of the book to be covered so hopefully the second half will be like 3 hrs and 15 minutes
Of course Calvin thought he knew everything about this universe right away. Conforms to his character 🤣
The God of War connection is: House Atreides are descendants of Agamemnon.
…and Agamemnon and Menelaus were sons of Atreus, hence the origin of the name Atreides (sons of Atreus).
Paul can see all possible outcomes and like the space travelers guild who can see paths thru the stars, he can see the best path thru to the best future outcome.
Without the spice all of the different guilds and special abilities by all the different people isn't possible.
2 things distinctly left out are Paul's heritage and why the sisterhood are influencing the bloodlines.
Crysknives are supposed to be blooded whenever unsheathed as well, because if they are left exposed to the air, they dissolve.
Oh so that is why the Fremen cut their wrists at the end of the duel?
I do appreciate that Idaho and Rabban never had a showdown. Would’ve been super easy to Hollywood it up with Mamoa vs Bautista but I love how they made it super clear that Rabban wouldn’t have stood a chance. Idaho took down an entire squad of Saurdukar while Rabban only started beheading people after they were captured. One on one showdowns just weren’t in his character.
Yes. Maybe seeing Peter Jackson screw up by (spoiler alert LOTR) putting Gandalf in a fight with the Witch King of Angmar 🤦♀️
Something that's not explained in the movie regarding lasers is that due to some technical aspect there is a feedback when lasers come in contact with shields. In the book it's almost a subatomic bomb on both ends of the laser when that happens. Potentially useful if you're willing to self sacrifice, but most army's avoid using lasers because of this issue.
All very true, and to carry it a step further: to avoid people using it as a kamikaze measure, sacrificing one lasgun ship for a shielded city on someone else's planet for example, there is an agreement between all the planets in the empire that if one of the great houses willingly uses a lasgun against a shielded opponent, that houses planet will be obliterated by everyone else in the empire. It's by mutual agreement that atomics, and also lasguns against shields, are not used in warfare, in order to preserve humanity from self-destruction.
I feel like they're really missing out by watching this at home. I was completely blown away by this movie but a lot of that was the visuals and the music just doing their absolute best on the big screen. I'm still in awe of the movie and I can't really put my finger on it other than it is the feeling(?) that it gives me. The epicness of it all. I just love it.
I concur.
FYI: personal shields are weak to attacks behind you. Hence do not facing away from the door.
“The Fat guy” was Baron and played Stellan Skarsgard, Erik Selvig, and wearing a suit and prosthetics and he was absolutely terrifying in the role.
George Lucas really took alot of inspiration from dune. The fermin are basically sand people, spice, a chosen one, "the voice" is like a jedi mind trick, and sand worms. I didn't realize how much inspiration he took till I watched this 🤣
worms, desert planets, politics, space tech, spice, and the force, you're actually right.
Jamis did teach him the ways of the desert, through action.
Sort of. Paul is now "living" possible futures which is why he knows the ways so we'll and how the jihad affected him so much. He "was a friend to Jamis."
The best praise I can give this movie is that I went into the theatre at 3:30 and came out at 6:30 and it felt like I'd been there for 20 min. It just let time go beyond what I could experience and kept me in a trance the whole time, I loved everything about this movie ESPECIALLY the soundtrack. Which was a shock to me that Eric didn't like it, I loved how almost eerie and ominous the speaking ladies theme was; how raw and powerful the desert theme with the "AHHHHEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHH", and the slight mechanical sounds and horns that came with the Harkonnen. Can't wait to watch the rest of the movies!
Loved how all the guys were asking questions or making guesses thay were either spot on or way off and Rick just sits there silent, not giving anything away. Cool Rick
THANK GOD Villeneuve was sensible and didn't try to adapt the entire first book. I don't mean to shit on the other adaptations, it's just... anyone who tried to adapt it like that was set up for failure. Dune is such a doorstopper and it's aaaaalll lore, it's got lore dripping from it's pages with how much descriptions and expositions there is. This movie didn't got around to showing everything in the book, a few scenes and conversations between characters were cut out but that's adaptations for you, honestly I'm happy with how it turned out.
Aaron needs to calm down with the questions and the joke attempts.
stop watching if you dont like Aaron then. I'm sure he doesnt give a shit about you
@@Luke-cu7bf Aaron sucks. Deal with it.
As one of the book readers, it's more accurate to the book than the 1984 Lynch version which added superpowers to Paul, weird voice cannons, pugs everywhere somehow and spoils one of the big twist of the book at the start ?!?! Only thing missing to make all the story more fluid would be the character developpement of Doctor Yueh to explain his betrayal better, or at least a scene to show the Baron is planning to backstab them...And the Emperor who will probably appear with princess Irulan and Fayd-Rautha in part 2.
Yeah, I agree. I absolutely loved this and thought they did the best they could considering how dense the book is, but could have used a bit more Yeuh for sure. I don't feel like new viewers got the absolute sense of betrayal that I got when I read the book.
It's pretty clear that Yueh betrays the Atreidies because the Harkonnen have his wife as a hostage. It's also not out of character or unexpected for the baron to then kill Yueh one he has finished his part.
I would have liked more Baron and Piter discussing the plan of betrayal. Also one more scene of Jessica and Leto
When you saw that spider pet thing, did you have a thought that it might be Dr. Yueh's wife?
@@chaost4544 I get show don't tell and most of it in the movie is amazing for that...but i'm just saying it could have made it smoother thats all for newcomers !
Calvin and rick have to hold so much information it's funny
A very late comment: The reason the worm doesn't go into the ground is because the rider's hooks are pulling its shell slightly open - it would get sand in uncomfortable places.
Crazy how Calvin figured out exactly how drum sand works
I mean, the visuals of it makes it pretty clear. Not too hard to figure out really.
"Maybe they should have made it where you can't get through fast or slow."
Cool detail covered somewhere in the books, they were designed that way because if the shield stopped everything coming it's way, it would even stop air from getting through, so you would end up suffocating. So they compromised by stopping anything going over a certain speed (like bullets or fast blades). And if lasers hit it, something like a nuclear explosion goes off, hence why there are almost no lasers shown.
I'm hoping for a trilogy. The second movie can finish off book 1 and the third movie can cover the events of the second book. That would work well. Overall, I thought this was a fantastic adaptation of the story so far. There's so much to cover and the 2 and a half hours flew by for me. I would have loved a little more time with the family once they were on Arrakis before the Harkonnen attack but I get that pushing the length beyond the current movie length would have been a harder sell.
Agreed. There's some minor things I have issues with in the first film but those issues could be smoothed out in the second part.
Would’ve loved for the first book to be a trilogy with each covering one part. It would’ve been a benefit to the ending.
i dont know how i feel about them continuing after book one. some of the books are actually impossible to make into movies. especially god emperor imo
I believe thats the current hope and plan to finish off Dune next movie then do book 2 to cap off a trilogy
That could be much more than a trilogy if they film the couple next books espetially about Leto III - Paul`s son
It was just announced they gave the green light for the sequel! They're aiming for October 2023, so only two years of waiting.
Nobody:
Eric: SHOW ME THE WORM
"it sucks having to wait 2 years for the next movie"
Me, having had to wait 3 years+ between each theater release of the original Star Wars Trilogy: "First time?"
To answer what Liat Kynes was doing setting the thumper, she was calling a worm to ride..She was holding the tools to mount and scale a sandworm…The reason the worms don’t just go under the sand with a rider is one of the tools opens and holds open a segment/scale of the worm. The worm instinctively rolls that section as far away from the sand to prevent injury and that brings the rider to on top of the worm. As long as that tool is in place holding open the segment of the worm it will not submerge into the abrasive sand as that would injury its softer fissure under the skin.
He was questioning the dart guns. I do not think they are effective as a full on gun, because the darts slow down so much you can just knock them away. It got the Duke because it was right in his back and he could not reach it.
True, common sense would tell you that.
Duncan knocks one away if you notice
They'd also be useless against an armored target. They're assassination weapons more than anything.
They just got way to hung up on the combat in general lol Dune is not about combat
always loved when they ask why they don't use guns or lasers against the shields, there is a BIG reason lol
The spice awakens visions of multiple possible futures in Paul. So, some of the things he sees don't turn out exactly the same way in reality, and some do. At least at this point. That's also why Jamis was teaching him the ways of the desert in one possible future, but in fact Paul had to end up killing him. Either way, Paul benefits from the information, it's just how he uses it that becomes an issue. He doesn't understand it initially either, like learning to walk for the first time. You're going to get it wrong a lot before you get it consistently right.
Dude on the right hand end ruined this with his dumb questions/comments.
"They crambed 10 Books into one Movie"
Movie: *Dune: Part 1*
and one in the line of maaany books lol.
'Why didn't the worm dive deep?' The maker hooks open a ring segment, exposing the sensitive flesh below the ring armour. The worm will not dive below the sand so long as the hook exposes the underlying flesh. Fremen ride worms by moving hooks around a segment ring, turning the worm in the desired direction. Fremen goad a worm to top speed and exhaust it before they drop off near their destination. The worm will then dive deep to recover and the Fremen can leave safely.
GD Aaron is probably the worst person to watch movies with!!
the reactions are bad enough; I have to watch the ones without him (often shows and movies I don’t like) just to spend time with the other 3 😩
Paul's visions are possible futures
Yes but how many times do we need to be annoyed by Visions of Zendaya rather than actual plot of the movie!!! What’s. Waste of TIME THIS WAS.
@@denM-ey3vb yeah, just goes to show that you haven't the faintest idea. Which is ok. Too many marvel movies for you.
The true horror of 12:25 is the fact that that "thing" might be Dr. Yueh's wife. The fact that she can use the voice on it is some indication that it's human in some way, and the Harkonens were known for doing fucked up things to human beings, making them into new things to keep as pets.
this movie is one of those movies you must see in theater, i dunno but i think the sound, the visual and everything of dune is perfect on big screen and big room with high quality sound xD i love eveything about dune, it was so epic.
It's a different movie in IMAX. The Voice shook my theater, no joke. It was nuts.
@@Joe-th3rx oh i'm sorry to hear that ;-; i don't have any theater with imax near my house and covid is still a big problem in my country so i went to the nearest and standard one instead. and to me it's already fine enough for dune's epicness.
@@SchoneTier I really just meant big screens in general. Should have clarified.
Also, the constant gabbering would be annoying on my first time watch.
Did you know? Most of the sets are real? They build a massive realistic sets. And they did really filmed in the Desert. They did only a minimal amount of CGI.
Timothee said that he only filmed himself in green screen two times.
He was CGI in the suit during the dream battle or whatever it was. It looked so bad.
@@samfromthorne Yeah, especially his face.
I watched Dune in the movie theatre yesterday. It was an extraordinary movie going experience. I went with my mom. We loved it. Timothée Chalamet was amazing. Everyone was amazing, actually. I read the book and it's a great adaptation.
My god Aaron just WATCH
In children of Dune the tnt mini series that came after Dune, Paul has twins a son and daughter. One is to become the chosen. Years later you have Anakin who has twins and one becomes the chosen one.
For the darts, they only work against unarmored. Shields + armor as they're typically shown with are not vulnerable. It's a very specific application for assassination when they're guard aren't up.
I could have easily sat through another 3 hours of this. Absolutely fantastic!
nothing like writing a paper the first time you watch a film
Lmaoooo this always bothered me, they lowkey missed key moments in shows by doing that