Insanity man! I fell in love with this camera. I bought it for the sole purpose of flying it on a custom racing drone 😅 you’re image looks absolutely incredible
Very nice footage. Question: Were you using a rig of some kind when shooting this? Or is it only handheld? I used to own a Beaulieu 4008 ZM4 with the 70mm Schneider-Kreuznach back in 2005. Made some very nice shots on Kodachrome K40 back then, in Sweden. Unfortunately, the box with all the footage, about 10 rolls, was lost a few years ago. It gives me great pain to think about frankly as I guess the footage was relatively "unique" as It would be some of the last roles of K40 shot. Back then, all the rolls was sent via mail and developed in Switzerland, Lausanne. Upon development, they batched it by stringing together many rolls of film. When the machine cut the rolls lose from each other, it was sometimes a bit off meaning you would get perhaps 3-4 frames of someone elses film, which could come from anywhere in the world, sent back to you. It was magical. Anyways, calling my shrink now for some counselling.
Beautiful footage. I’ve never managed to get such a low level of grain with 200T, your indoor shots especially are surprisingly un-grainy. Did you use any particular post-production tool to reduce the grain or did it just come out like that?
Thank you. Yes, I used Neat Video to first basically eliminate the grain altogether. This makes the image look very plasticy and ugly, so afterwards I let maybe 40-50% of the original grain to show through. This makes for a perfect compromise between image sharpness and film grain. The raw scan was a bit too grainy to my taste, especially as it was scanned with a Lasergraphics Scanstation which resolves even super 8 grain so sharply. I've also stabilised the footage with Deshaker, it really makes a big difference on super 8 footage.
@@aleksivalkonen6774 Beautiful job! I edit in FCPX, and to get rid of those shaky stabilizing edges, like the ones at 1:32 to 1:39, I use the "Scale All" option to zoom slightly in on the entire frame until those tell-tale shaky edges disappear. Thanks for sharing your great video!
@@craigw.scribner6490 Thank you! Yes, the stabilizing wasn't optimal here, but I've learned already! You can check out my newest 16mm short film which I've stabilized with more attention to detail.
This footage makes me double doubt on getting a 16mm film camera. I don't understand why some 8mm film motion is not as smooth as this one (I'm a newbie). Could anyone explain? Should I go with 16mm or 8mm? What's the main difference? Is 16mm smoother than 8mm?
I'm not sure what you mean by smoothness exactly, but there are many factors to consider. -Quality of Super 8 camera. Beaulieu 4008 cameras along with Schneider-Kreuznach lenses are among the best in the world. (remember to get them serviced by Björn Andersson before shooting film) They can also shoot at the cinematic framerate of 24 fps which makes the motion much smoother than consumer model cameras that only have 18 fps as an option. -Quality of scan. This is scanned by Mutascan with their Lasergraphics Scanstation, best quality available for super 8. Really shows fine detail down to the grain level. -Post-processing of the footage. I've ran my footage through stabilisation + sharpening. It also makes it look much smoother as super 8 cameras lack pin registration, often resulting in slightly jumpy image.
@@aleksivalkonen6774 Thanks for the quick reply. Yep, the jumpy image is what I meant to say. In other 8mm cameras the footage looks more jumpy/shaky and not as smooth as this one. So it's the pin registration that causes the footage to look jumpy. Your video looks like it as if it was shot on 16mm, it's really great!
Very good footage, indeed. And in very low light! How did you manage the synchronisation? Did you record the sound with an app and an external microphone? Sometimes the sound is lip-sync, sometimes the sound recordings and footage diverge. The 4008 doesn't have a Chrystal synch. But shouldn't it also work with a "clapp" at the beginning and at the end of the recording and then match the sound track (or the film track)? Very exciting questions. I think there is still no simple way to record sound for Super 8.
Thank you. A great camera, quality scan and post-production helped it! I used Neat Video to process it, but afterwards let half of the original grain to be seen through. I also stabilised it digitally. I didn't do any sound syncing effort here. Just tried to make it sync in post production. But yes, I used some Rode videomics to record the audio! The part with dialogue is also playing faster than it should - I forgot I shot it at 18 fps to let more light enter, whereas the rest of the footage is 24fps. I later edited it to be even better, with correct playback speed, but I didn't share that version. I'm sure using a clap in the beginning (and better if in the end too) would help syncing the sound. It will probably start to drift a little in longer scenes, requiring some trickery in-between to make it better. I'll know more soon as I start experimenting with a big project.
Beautiful footage, especially for 8mm!
Nice lens! Looks sharp enough to pass for 16mm.
Insanity man! I fell in love with this camera. I bought it for the sole purpose of flying it on a custom racing drone 😅 you’re image looks absolutely incredible
nice film footage! thanks!
Very nice. I'd like to see shots taken with primes.
great registration!
The raw footage was a bit shaky tbh, but it's nothing that Deshaker couldn't solve. And it looks fantastic afterwards.
Very nice footage. Question: Were you using a rig of some kind when shooting this? Or is it only handheld?
I used to own a Beaulieu 4008 ZM4 with the 70mm Schneider-Kreuznach back in 2005. Made some very nice shots on Kodachrome K40 back then, in Sweden. Unfortunately, the box with all the footage, about 10 rolls, was lost a few years ago. It gives me great pain to think about frankly as I guess the footage was relatively "unique" as It would be some of the last roles of K40 shot.
Back then, all the rolls was sent via mail and developed in Switzerland, Lausanne. Upon development, they batched it by stringing together many rolls of film. When the machine cut the rolls lose from each other, it was sometimes a bit off meaning you would get perhaps 3-4 frames of someone elses film, which could come from anywhere in the world, sent back to you. It was magical.
Anyways, calling my shrink now for some counselling.
Beautiful footage. I’ve never managed to get such a low level of grain with 200T, your indoor shots especially are surprisingly un-grainy. Did you use any particular post-production tool to reduce the grain or did it just come out like that?
Thank you.
Yes, I used Neat Video to first basically eliminate the grain altogether. This makes the image look very plasticy and ugly, so afterwards I let maybe 40-50% of the original grain to show through. This makes for a perfect compromise between image sharpness and film grain. The raw scan was a bit too grainy to my taste, especially as it was scanned with a Lasergraphics Scanstation which resolves even super 8 grain so sharply.
I've also stabilised the footage with Deshaker, it really makes a big difference on super 8 footage.
@@aleksivalkonen6774 Beautiful job! I edit in FCPX, and to get rid of those shaky stabilizing edges, like the ones at 1:32 to 1:39, I use the "Scale All" option to zoom slightly in on the entire frame until those tell-tale shaky edges disappear. Thanks for sharing your great video!
@@craigw.scribner6490 Thank you! Yes, the stabilizing wasn't optimal here, but I've learned already! You can check out my newest 16mm short film which I've stabilized with more attention to detail.
This footage makes me double doubt on getting a 16mm film camera. I don't understand why some 8mm film motion is not as smooth as this one (I'm a newbie). Could anyone explain? Should I go with 16mm or 8mm? What's the main difference? Is 16mm smoother than 8mm?
I'm not sure what you mean by smoothness exactly, but there are many factors to consider.
-Quality of Super 8 camera. Beaulieu 4008 cameras along with Schneider-Kreuznach lenses are among the best in the world. (remember to get them serviced by Björn Andersson before shooting film) They can also shoot at the cinematic framerate of 24 fps which makes the motion much smoother than consumer model cameras that only have 18 fps as an option.
-Quality of scan. This is scanned by Mutascan with their Lasergraphics Scanstation, best quality available for super 8. Really shows fine detail down to the grain level.
-Post-processing of the footage. I've ran my footage through stabilisation + sharpening. It also makes it look much smoother as super 8 cameras lack pin registration, often resulting in slightly jumpy image.
@@aleksivalkonen6774 Thanks for the quick reply. Yep, the jumpy image is what I meant to say. In other 8mm cameras the footage looks more jumpy/shaky and not as smooth as this one. So it's the pin registration that causes the footage to look jumpy. Your video looks like it as if it was shot on 16mm, it's really great!
Very good footage, indeed. And in very low light! How did you manage the synchronisation? Did you record the sound with an app and an external microphone? Sometimes the sound is lip-sync, sometimes the sound recordings and footage diverge. The 4008 doesn't have a Chrystal synch. But shouldn't it also work with a "clapp" at the beginning and at the end of the recording and then match the sound track (or the film track)?
Very exciting questions. I think there is still no simple way to record sound for Super 8.
Thank you. A great camera, quality scan and post-production helped it! I used Neat Video to process it, but afterwards let half of the original grain to be seen through. I also stabilised it digitally.
I didn't do any sound syncing effort here. Just tried to make it sync in post production. But yes, I used some Rode videomics to record the audio! The part with dialogue is also playing faster than it should - I forgot I shot it at 18 fps to let more light enter, whereas the rest of the footage is 24fps. I later edited it to be even better, with correct playback speed, but I didn't share that version.
I'm sure using a clap in the beginning (and better if in the end too) would help syncing the sound. It will probably start to drift a little in longer scenes, requiring some trickery in-between to make it better. I'll know more soon as I start experimenting with a big project.
nice, is it a 4k scan?
2.6k actually. But the scan was done with Lasergraphics Scanstation.