Huge thanks to the Kierans for joining us and teaching class for the week. Once you do the RUclips pleasantries here you should go check their channel out, they do a lot of variety WH content just like us, but with sexy faces: ruclips.net/channel/UCNNPxWwUB5y3BoJcfoI89MQ If you want me to pick an episode for you, here you go, get back to hobbying for another hour: ruclips.net/video/Lcw-WGp7MC0/видео.html Also mandatory reminders we have merch and a Patreon if you are finally ready to break down and send Berilio food money: orchideight.com/collections/poorhammer www.patreon.com/SolelySingleton
Why does Brad always go on about Boomers playing with metal or first born marines? Sorry, Brad, but that would be Millennials and some Gen X (and 2nd ed. 40k still shits all over any version since btw), Boomers are all either in or soon to be in retirement/nursing homes and never got past playing with trains (or some historical games). 🤷
Just FYI, Nivea Creme is the best green stuff sculpting lubricant (instead of water or vaseline). No I am not trolling, and yes, I understand it sounds like trolling. Modern Synthesist has a video on it to back up. ruclips.net/video/i_i_MIfbHs8/видео.html
Way back the day as a young marine player I was a big fan of the demolisher and other big gun tanks (like the Soviet ISU-152 & KV2, and had a little model of a Sturmtiger). In game that s10 pie plate put in work as even with 24" range one turn was usually all it needed to be able to shoot something.. Anyway I came up with the idea of putting one on a land raider along with some sponson flamers. A few years later GW came up with the Land Raider Ares which was my Land Raider idea but with assault cannons on top instead of a twin multi-melta!
35:40 My ork warband is named ‘Da Inkwizition’ and so different ‘Ordoz’ of them are coated in different types of bits and weapons stolen from other factions.
So the Maleeuhs Ordoz would be salvaged from imperials, 'Eratickus Ordoz would have stolen chaos marine parts and Zeenoss Ordoz would have stuff nicked from the Eldar, Tau, Necrons and Votaan? BTW I'm not sure if I've got Malius and Hereticus mixed up.
@Brickerbrack for lego, you can buy a decent sized Lamborghini model for $70. For warhammer, you can get, 3 bladegaurd for the same price. You get a bit more weight in plastic with lego.
As a retired military chef, there are 3 rules to the Kitchen. Rule 3# A SHARP knife is a SAFE knife... the meaning is that if you use correct knife sharpening and handling techniques, you will stop using heavier force. Cause it'll result in heavier damage upon ones self when you do cut yourself. I've always looked at how i'm cutting these plastic bits with that mind set, and i use a lot of wood whittling methods for cutting control.
As an ork player, that's very understandable. I regulary go to my hobby shop with my bits boxes in my backpack, ready to trade with whoever wants, like some kind of weird plastic merchant.
@@Tactical_Turtwig I mean I could totally be that unhinged if I wanted to lmao. My regular backpack is a hiking pack with a big carrying capacity (not camping big, but bigger than a school bag). I mainly store my bits in tupperwares and one nutella pot (a tau player gave it to me containing a shit ton of crisis weaponry). On top of all of that, I have a winter coat I don't usually wear unless I really need extra space because it has very deep internal pockets, to the point where I can easily hide a 1L bottle in there without it being noticeable. I never stuck around in one shop to get a nickname (studies have been busy) but I realise now that I probably do have that vibe lol.
I converted the Phobos lieutenant in the jumping pose into the doom slayer and run him as Eversor assassin. I gave him a mono visor and also used Goliath gang upgrade sprue to give him muscle. For the sword, I took a blood letter sword and used chopped up lightning claws to make the T shape. To this day it’s one of my most complimented kitbashes and I’ve one several awards for it.
Sounds awesome, I’m working on changing the cheap captain from the 10th starter edition into my BT proxy emperors champ. Taken him off the base, repositioned the arms so he’s throwing the sword and it’s being held up by the chain. One of my first so not sure if I wanna have the sword tearing through a Nid or if it’s too much.
Reminder, that an exacto knife is not a wedge. It cuts by slicing, which means as the knife moves across the material the cut occurs. More pressure is not the answer. Just imagine your exacto knife is serrated and you will do the proper motion. Also great episode, definitely a new favorite.
You know you're a true kitbasher when you've kitbashed so much that when you build a model like it is on the box, then get mad and tear it apart because you can't stand having it look like the box art
quick suggestion, whenever you have greenstuff left over after some sculpting, roll them into a thin cylinder and then later cut them up for use as candles (you'll have to sculpt them in with some greenstuff but that's easy).
I recently kitbashed the Tau Stealth Suit kit into a unit of Meganobz with optional Big Mek in Mega Armor. It's one of the more fun kitbashes I've done so far, so I wish you luck with your future projects. I'd suggest scouring Ebay for used or discounted models to help save money. Sure, you might have to do some extra work on used models to do what you might want with them, but if it means you pay like half of that kit's MSRP it can be worth it.
>10 years ago, my local game store at the time did a kitbashing contest, and I decided to submit a very tongue-in-cheek thing: an ork where the blade of his choppa and barrel of his slugga had been swapped, so he had a pistol-grip dagger and a sword-grip gun. Never mind that I had my own custom jump pack Canoness (that was required at the time), a church on a land raider and so on, I wanted the minimalist approach to be shown off.
In almost every SM or CSM kit that allows it, I make a dual wielding model. Always look so cool to me. I have a dual wielding Sargent, Rubric, and a bladeguard vet that looks SO cool. There's a few others but those are my favorites.
Ehh not really there’s cheaper proxy type kitbashes too. The stormcast eternals into sanguinary guard are an easy one that costs half the price and gets twice the models before they changed them to a 3 man squad so now 3x as much. Just scrape away the cloaks, add an extra jump pack you have lying around from old models and find some wings at a local arts store. Still buying almost everything from GW but at a massive discount compared to what they would cost normally.
Well, the spare models could be used as fodder for other projects. This is where getting into Inq28 becomes a godsend. Any random model cobbled together from spare bits can work as an acceptable Inquisitor retinue. (Or for the Inquisition's foes).
Kitbashing is the part of the hobby I might enjoy the most. There’s just no limits to your creativity. Also, having four sets of monopose Ork Boyz I'm proud to say that none of them look the same. All I used were spare bits from one old Boyz box and a Nobz box whom I also managed to fully build.
Fantastic episode! That Word Bearers Daemon Prince is incredible and I've been using these guys for inspiration for some time now. I really appreciate these hobby episodes from you guys, please do more of this kind of content in the future
Remember, kids: if your opponent won't accept a reasonable proxy, you probably don't want to play with them anyway. Oh, and unless you play vanilla Marines, your opponent doesn't know what your wargear is supposed to look like. And they're not looking anyway. Unless your Miniatures are painted, which leaves out 99% of you. 🤣
Proxying is filthy. Counts as is fine though. The big rule is 'Does this have rules in the game?' If yes the use those rules or its proxying which is bad. If not then work out what's the closest thing and use it as 'Counts-As'.
@ChrisKCook not all of us have a million dollars to spend on a hobby. It’s good to proxy models especially when you want to try something different, either new characters for your army or a different army come to mind. Why should we pay GW $1000’s just so we can see if we like something different? Fuck, just off of GWs pricing you should be proxying models never mind their absolutely shit prints like the new sanguinary guard. Remember GW is a company not a charity that we need to support even when we feel they’re doing badly.
@scott8448 way to misrepresent what I was talking about. A couple of one off games with stand ins to try out a new unit before you buy it is different. And sod of with Justifying your cheeepnes. You're not an Anarchist sticking it to the Man. You're a Cheepskate meta chasing WAAC Powergamer Dudebro with no resp for their opponents. Hobbies cost money get over it.
@@ChrisKCookim confused, what’s the difference, let’s say I have a custom kitbashed converted chapter master model and I use the terminator captain rules, even though it’s not that model.
I just bought into Adeptus Mechanicus as my first army since vehicles had armor values, and it’s been really fun getting back into kitbashing. I bought some Grimghast Reapers to make into Fulgurite Priests and they look amazing. The best kit for bits is the Kataphron Breachers/Destroyers, I have more wires and cables and giant guns and robotic arms than I know what to do with after three of those boxes. The Skitarii box has a lot of extra weapons and stuff too since it can be built two different ways.
Magical Hack: Take a photo of your work from different angles and grey scale them... can save you on priming something that may not be ready to prime. Or I guess use an appropriate filter?
Just want to say - I only just discovered your show... maybe 2 days ago?? I've already watched so much and I'm SO impressed with your content! It's genuinely informative, some genuine personality between you guys, and you keep a really realistic perspective towards such an expensive game/hobby. I'm already a fan, and I just wanted to say how proud I am of y'all for creating content of such high quality. Anyone can grab a pair of microphones and start a podcast, but I think you guys actually earned the right in spades!
Ty for this. I've been really loving kitbashing for chaos because it's saves me so much money so far. The chaos lord termiantor kit gave me enough to build both it and the sorcerer cause I had spare legs and body. Managed to use the Cavalry base from 2 skitari kits to kitbash some warpsmiths alongside spare maulerfiend bits . No idea when I'm ever going to need 3 warpsmiths but it's v v fun. I'm not good at it but am happy
Kierossover! Them being switched side wise is such a great little joke too. I love kitbashing, I've got an Alpha Legion army that has Horus Heresy Marines, Dark Mech Skitarii Cultists, etc, and a Ynnari Corsairs army with a kitbashed Yriel, but I have been terrified of Green Stuff, so this helped me a lot, thanks! And the suggestion of chains/bits to cover green stuff is super great and I don't know why I never considered that before.
I gotta say man the variety of people in this hobby who are just chill creative entertaining people, out there doing awesome stuff and inspiring people, is just so amazing to see. I haven’t been in this hobby for a year yet and it’s already been the most enjoyable and rewarding hobby I’ve been part of
I’ve just started warhammer and this was a super helpful episode as an understanding of what this means and is. My end goal dream is to kitbash chaos marines into alpha legion with their new deceptor detachment
Currently my favourite is Knight armigers/war dogs. You can kitback some funky stuff straight out of the box, including making quadruped walkers. No additional bits required (but certainly desired depending on what you want!)
This was a much-needed lesson in poorhammering for many, and is going right into my all-purpose “mini painting” playlist for future rewatches. Thanks for answering my decades long question of what the heck green stuff actually is, and thanks Kierans for gracing us all!
Really think the British sense of humour works insanely well with the general vibe of this channel 😂 kitbashing is my favourite part of the hobby, get that green stuff out!
The company heroes box is incredible and in conjunction with the Black Templar combat patrol, was oddly enough a huge boon to my blood angel army. I got a captain with relic shield, a bladeguard ancient, a lieutenant, another bladeguard model, and a sternguard with the company heroes box and then used the martial and champion in the templar box to make two more bladeguard, made a judiciar using that dope ass double pointed sword, turned the 4 marines leading the novitiates into sternguard for a full unit of 5 now, got a shitty impulsor, and 4 scouts I can't use until I grab a 5th from a store somewhere. Regardless, I got a huge complement of shit out of it and now I have a bunch of weapons with chains on them to kit out my death company and it's gonna look great. Love both of those boxes and I'm very happy with how things turned out.
(Paragraph/ IG advice below) Also keep your army in mind. I know this sounds weird but your basic IG infantry could use a simple kit bash but also your paint job can carry it more then just swapping bits. -For a beginner IG: Add a cool head to lord Solar Add a cape to a cadian castellen Change the head on the primaris psycher Add a bit of fur to the collar of a krieg marshal or commissar. Add more bits to your lemun Russ Swap the head on your rough riders -For some intermediate stuff Give a trooper the flamer tank backpack and clean the hand off the flamer. Take some wire and connect the two. Now he has a lasgun and a flamer. Magnetize your tanks. (Please do this. it’s ok I believe in you!) Give a krieger or infantrymen a rocket launcher from the Heavy weapons kit. Put it on their back as their running. Give the lord Solar a rifle pouch. Put gas mask (more like the old steel legion) on your infantry. Give your infantry a great coat to look like the old steel legion or valhallen. Give the helmet or face goggles. O7 to all my fellow guard players I can’t wait to see what you do and see you on the battlefield! Feel free to drop more below!
Heck, most IG vehicles have weapon options that can be swapped without magnets. Holding firm in slots with friction alone. It goes without saying you should do this whenever possible. Also, if you don't care about using GW models, there's a lot of Historical miniatures from other manufacturers that can be kitbashed into Guard squads. Much cheaper than buying kits from GW. Setting aside Wargames Atlantic, who just sell Guard-compatible kits, of course.
Very cool one - It really shows the kitbashing journey is kinda universal as I found myself in a lot of situations yall described. Two years ago I was pretty sure kitbashing would never be for me, and now I kitbash almost every unit I get for my CSM army !
I've done 3 kitbashes: 1) A lokhust heavy destroyer with lychguard arms for a lokhust lord 2) I got a free infernus marine from my flgs, so i turned it into a lieutenant with combi weapon proxie (I literally just had him holding a knife, he doesn't actually have a combi weapon either) 3) I, not knowing that it would do this, was using acetone to strip some scarab occult terminators, and it partially melted. I cut it up some and turned it into a chaos spawn, and was luckily only doing one at a time, so I only lost the one.
Lovely episode! I've done a little kitbashing to fix my seraphim from the old sisters combat patrols and am planning on turning my 2nd combat patrol repentia superior into a palatine. Going to be a lot more work but I'm very excited to see how it turns out!
Ah yes good advice. Starting small with weapon and headswaps. I started kitbashing by building a 3,5k point army of deamons of the ruinstorm from scratch. It was fun and rewarding but by far not my best idea. It was haaaard.
What got me into kitbashing was the Mechanicus game. Mechanicus and Necrons are my two favorite armies already, then the game adds a level of customization you don't see in the models, and introduced to me the Xenarites. I put two and two together, as well as some Mechanicus and Necron bits, and now I have a small Xenarite army. What helped a lot was the youtube channel Kitbosh, who does some pretty crazy kitbashing that fully involves sculpting and carving into the model and lots of greenstuff. Some of my best work came from using those ideas, though I still haven't used greenstuff because I'm scared lol
Kitbashing is so satisfying. I did a pretty extensive kitbash and 3d print mashup to replace grimaldus' servitor helpers with a contingent of chaplains. It looks super cool and it's amazing to think that I'm probably the only person in the world who's done that conversion in that specific way.
If you want good bits, Frostgrave stuff is almost all compatible with each other. Frostgrave wizard arms with Stargrave squid head with cultist body? Sure. Knight with halo hair wizard head, skeletal arm and machine gun? No issues there.
Favorite basic kitbash I've done was using canoptek wraith tails in place of wraithlord legs, I was the only craftword player at my lgs at the time so when someone came in with a proper wraithlord the playgroup was impressed with their "kitbash"
41:05 idunno, i was tired! as multiple people have said it is lucky i can even use my right thumb, let alone that i managed to miss everything important in the space between the knuckle and joint of your thumb! fun episode, though! remember, buy a cutmat, and 3d printing can often supplement whatever you find from boxes!
I'm still an amateur, one of my biggest kitbashes was taking a Sisters rhino and using it for my Death Guard. Covering it in terrain mud for texture, some icon bits from the Maggotkin extra bits, nurglings and a corpse from Lord of Afflictions bits. Putting some scratches and bullet marks for some more texture.
16:45 You have the warp talons / raptors box if you build raptors you can easily build chosen with a box of Legionaries and if you use the Nightlord killteam box you get the best chosen.
My very first model was the Exalted Champion in a box of AOS Chaos Chosen. I dropped the spiky bit for his shoulder and never found it. I ended up clipping the horn off an unhelmeted head I knew i wasn't going to use as a replacement. My second box of Chosen features some intentional head swaps and unintentional shoulder swaps. And i made a second beast snagga nob out of one of the monopose, mono-option boys and spare nob parts from the snagga and squighog kits in the Ork combat patrol. That second set of boys in the box has been my first foray into weapon swaps, including bashing one boys slugga into a plasma gun since my friends and play OPR that's an available unit upgrade.
Awe, this is an awesome combo. I love the Kieran show. Criminally underrated. Was shocked the last time I saw their subscribers and view count. They're awesome. His tau and chaos space wolves are discusting.
My favorite kitbash was a headswap I did. I was taking the head off the coldstar commander from tau and replacing it with a zaku 2 head and painting like char's zaku
I’ve been at the hobby for about a year now and jumped into kitbashing CSM for my first army. Just about every unit Ive built from sprue is kitbashed in some way. For those wondering it’s an alpha legion army that has a sci-fi mesoamerican theme.
i love kits like exalted sorcerors, where its just bits galore. my go-to's for marines are def the company heroes kieran mentioned, and also the marine devastator kit. if you buy the dev kit, it comes with enough spare arms and guns to turn any basic marine kit into 2 extra 5 man squads, with sparw bits leftover still (also the only marine kit i know of with a spare set of legs)
My first kitbash was when I worked on my Chaos Rhino my friend got me. I took a leftover helmet, shoulder plates and front chestplate from my Rubrics, and put them on the gun turret guy, and then I also cut up the spikes along the front and replaced two of them with the bird-like gargoyle head bits. I really wanna make the kitbash terminator sorcerer you pointed out too, but sadly I can’t afford to buy the chaos lord in terminator armor to kitbash with my SOT bits
I've been kitbashing upscaled firstborn marines by taking the HH mk6 bodies, shaving off the knee pads, greenstuffing mk7 or mk4 ones on them and then also replacing the torsos. They look great
This was timed perfectly. Im building my mechanicus army and wanted to make all the tech priests full kitbashes. Having only done small head/arm swaps, this has alot of good info.
I've done the trophy hunting space marines with fur and chains. I've removed all the aquila's and replaced them with skulls and rib cages. I mostly use a dremel to remove large amounts of plastic.
celestian sacresants for sisters are THE best kitbashing box for like the base body, i used a box of them to make sisters characters, using swords from my seraphim to make palatines and stuff like that
TBF I do some conversion here and there. Some was fun, some make me realise mistakes (never print a backpack with tiny wings with resin, it breaks by breathing) But out of that, swapped some heads, changed Belial into a grand master for my grey knights by switching head and both arms, changed a judiciar and emperor champion into grey knights champions... That's why I like grey knights this much, every marine is a grey knight waiting conversion
As a space wolves player weapon and head swaps are pretty good going with all the options out there. I’m still dipping into the parts from my first two troops boxes. Tho my personal best kitbash is the deathwing knight mini of the month into a wolf guard/ Arjac rockfist. Lotta cutting and tweaking to get the old parts to fit the new scale of minis
I think my favorite inspiration for looking to try kit bashing was a Tyracon line from years ago where someone took Necron and Tau bits to make Tyranid units.
Perfect timing, I was just thinking on how to do a possible named character or 2 for a homebrew SM Chapter I've been working on. One idea I have is a Terminator Chaplain, but with Stormcast legs to make him taller (A bit of an Alexis Pollux or Tyberos situation) and teh Chapter Master, an Emporer's Champion with Abhorrant Gorewarden wings, and a Captain's Relic Shield on the off hand. Granted, the Chapter Master is more of a conversion, but still probably some great info in this video
I stated with little things like head swaps, started swapping out swords on models that didn't quite fit together, then ended up doing a full conversion combining lemartes and a Lord-Relictor. Now I gotta learn greenstuff.
Thanks for the video. I always hated the little driver dude in the Triarch Stalker, so I was able to use the main body from the Reanimator and jam that where the cockpit was and it looks way more ominous compared to Jack Skellington driving it. I also have plans and parts to bash a Grey Knights Kill Team into Legion of the Damned, with head & pauldron swaps and sculpting fire on them.
I dug up my brother's old minis (from the old battle of Macragge box and some other boxes) and he did some pretty neat stuff and some wacky stuff for an 11 year old back then. Putting all weapon and arm options on the Tyranids, giving them 2 heads or giving the ultramarine captain or sergeant all his weapon options (he had 4 arms), but he also give one of the minis 2 Tyranid heads as trophies so that was neat. He also had some Tau and Eldar minis, sadly a head is missing and one Tau has an arm missing and it's covered up with the shoulder plate. And I'm thinking of making them functional for tabletop games but I don't know where to begin with the options, especially since the Swarmlord might have too many arms as well.
For the talk around 17 ish min mark for the exalted sorcerer box honestly would be best for each armies like chaplain/librarian designated magic heroes where they normally have like 5 options per model and a ton of variety for each unit in there.
Get the little saw toothed blades so if you are trying to cut something and it's not cutting with a blade, you can just saw it, the right tiny saw blades still cut very fine and very thin, and look great, but they are SO MUCH safer and even cleaner on thicker/tougher cuts.
I've had a Drukhari Venom kit sitting in my pile of shame for a while now. It occurred to me, a little while ago, that I could make my own Succubus by taking one of the Wych hangers-on, stick her on a jutting terrain piece, give her a spare weapon from my bits box, and maybe give her some grisly trophies. (I backed Pete the Wargamer's "Dead Animal Bits" sprue kickstarter, so I'm going to have plenty of them to work with in a couple months). I already have (or will have) all the parts for it. So why not? It'll look unique, and distinct enough to stand out on the tabletop from five feet away.
Kitbashing, my love. Talos/Chronos kit is *absolutely* a treasure trove, and I bought one just to have bits for my word bearers. Most notably, one of my maulerfiends' lasher tendrils are tentacle-arms from that kit because i built it in the Forgefiend pose to accommodate the giant mammoth head I gave it. My other favorite kit for kitbashing was the old CSM possessed kit, and I miss it. EDIT: Still listening but god the point at 27:27 is so fuckin funny to me. I have a Daemon Prince that I kitbashed with with one of the ends of the forgefiend jaw-cannons and used greenstuff to coat the joint with "fur." But because I decided to not give him arms for the project (Chaos!), I cannot tell you how many opponents said to me, "How does he attack, he has no arms!" lol Oh and as a bonus, I also used a Dark Eldar whip to give him a long, lashing tongue.
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Why does Brad always go on about Boomers playing with metal or first born marines? Sorry, Brad, but that would be Millennials and some Gen X (and 2nd ed. 40k still shits all over any version since btw), Boomers are all either in or soon to be in retirement/nursing homes and never got past playing with trains (or some historical games). 🤷
Except, of course, for all the Boomers sill running governments and corporations and trying to take the rest of us to the grave with them.
Just FYI, Nivea Creme is the best green stuff sculpting lubricant (instead of water or vaseline). No I am not trolling, and yes, I understand it sounds like trolling. Modern Synthesist has a video on it to back up. ruclips.net/video/i_i_MIfbHs8/видео.html
@@volz4103 he probably means boomers in the newer online slang definition, which is boomers being millenials and gen xers.
We're kitbashing a sturmtiger with this one
I hate that this was actually the first comment posted.
@@thepoorhammerpodcastyou made this meme and you made it within the Warhammer community. You have to live with it now and forever.
@TibTub2 I am so proud of you.
Memes are canon
Way back the day as a young marine player I was a big fan of the demolisher and other big gun tanks (like the Soviet ISU-152 & KV2, and had a little model of a Sturmtiger). In game that s10 pie plate put in work as even with 24" range one turn was usually all it needed to be able to shoot something.. Anyway I came up with the idea of putting one on a land raider along with some sponson flamers. A few years later GW came up with the Land Raider Ares which was my Land Raider idea but with assault cannons on top instead of a twin multi-melta!
Thanks so much for hosting us guys! ❤❤
Thanks for teaching us a lot of valuable lessons for kitbashing and not stabbing our fingers with knives.
@@thepoorhammerpodcast Well, there is an ocean between you to protect you!
.... This time....
Omg my favourite warhammer podcast and favourite warhammer RUclipsrs collab WWWWWWWWW
I'm surprised more people don't headswap, my elder have lumineth heads
Thanks for the information and inspiration!
Right Kieran's avatar is on the left and Left Kieran's avatar is on the right. Subtle troll by Berilio.
It's also shorter than the tall kieran's tau. Berillio is amazing at little background jokes!
@@KanaKuroko
It's because he's a 5"11 firstborn
35:40 My ork warband is named ‘Da Inkwizition’ and so different ‘Ordoz’ of them are coated in different types of bits and weapons stolen from other factions.
so.. basically indistinguishable from the actual inquisition codex
So the Maleeuhs Ordoz would be salvaged from imperials, 'Eratickus Ordoz would have stolen chaos marine parts and Zeenoss Ordoz would have stuff nicked from the Eldar, Tau, Necrons and Votaan?
BTW I'm not sure if I've got Malius and Hereticus mixed up.
As an individual who grew up with Lego, I immediately came into the hobby with the mentality of “warhammer is Lego”. Nice video guys!
Wait....that's actually a pretty good way to go through it
I was explaining it to my aunt who has grandchildren who love lego "it's like lego... but twice as expensive"
@@stotgunvsface5092 That said, Lego can be pretty chuffin' expensive too. 😜
@Brickerbrack for lego, you can buy a decent sized Lamborghini model for $70. For warhammer, you can get, 3 bladegaurd for the same price. You get a bit more weight in plastic with lego.
@@stotgunvsface5092 That's a fair point... 😂
As a retired military chef, there are 3 rules to the Kitchen. Rule 3# A SHARP knife is a SAFE knife... the meaning is that if you use correct knife sharpening and handling techniques, you will stop using heavier force. Cause it'll result in heavier damage upon ones self when you do cut yourself. I've always looked at how i'm cutting these plastic bits with that mind set, and i use a lot of wood whittling methods for cutting control.
^This. Always use a sharp blade. It will slide through plastic like butter.
I too end up carving against my thumb for a lot of clean up haha
One of my friends plays Orks and his price for 3d printing something is your spare bits
That's the Ork-iest thing he could do short of demanding payment in teeth 😂
As an ork player, that's very understandable. I regulary go to my hobby shop with my bits boxes in my backpack, ready to trade with whoever wants, like some kind of weird plastic merchant.
@Sir_Bucket my mind instantly painted an image of someone cosplaying the RE4 merchant, opening his coat and asking "What're ya painting?" 🤣
@@Tactical_Turtwig I mean I could totally be that unhinged if I wanted to lmao. My regular backpack is a hiking pack with a big carrying capacity (not camping big, but bigger than a school bag). I mainly store my bits in tupperwares and one nutella pot (a tau player gave it to me containing a shit ton of crisis weaponry). On top of all of that, I have a winter coat I don't usually wear unless I really need extra space because it has very deep internal pockets, to the point where I can easily hide a 1L bottle in there without it being noticeable.
I never stuck around in one shop to get a nickname (studies have been busy) but I realise now that I probably do have that vibe lol.
@@Sir_Bucket it sounds like you're 2/3 of the way there 😂 lean into it.
"Cut away from yourself!" Came right as I almost clipped my finger while building a Haemonculus centaur
The distraction kirancast in the flesh, fantastic.
I converted the Phobos lieutenant in the jumping pose into the doom slayer and run him as Eversor assassin. I gave him a mono visor and also used Goliath gang upgrade sprue to give him muscle. For the sword, I took a blood letter sword and used chopped up lightning claws to make the T shape. To this day it’s one of my most complimented kitbashes and I’ve one several awards for it.
100 points for creativity
Sounds awesome, I’m working on changing the cheap captain from the 10th starter edition into my BT proxy emperors champ. Taken him off the base, repositioned the arms so he’s throwing the sword and it’s being held up by the chain. One of my first so not sure if I wanna have the sword tearing through a Nid or if it’s too much.
Virgin kitbasher: Used milliput and green stuff.
Chad kitbasher: Uses adheisive pulp and superglue.
Reminder, that an exacto knife is not a wedge. It cuts by slicing, which means as the knife moves across the material the cut occurs. More pressure is not the answer. Just imagine your exacto knife is serrated and you will do the proper motion.
Also great episode, definitely a new favorite.
You know you're a true kitbasher when you've kitbashed so much that when you build a model like it is on the box, then get mad and tear it apart because you can't stand having it look like the box art
I don't think i have a single model that's built property acc to instructions
quick suggestion, whenever you have greenstuff left over after some sculpting, roll them into a thin cylinder and then later cut them up for use as candles (you'll have to sculpt them in with some greenstuff but that's easy).
I have a massive kitbashed "Looted Tau" Ork army planned, but holy shit my wallet will kill me if I go through with it.
Buy recasts, save yourself a buck.
I recently kitbashed the Tau Stealth Suit kit into a unit of Meganobz with optional Big Mek in Mega Armor. It's one of the more fun kitbashes I've done so far, so I wish you luck with your future projects. I'd suggest scouring Ebay for used or discounted models to help save money. Sure, you might have to do some extra work on used models to do what you might want with them, but if it means you pay like half of that kit's MSRP it can be worth it.
@@matthewmatthew981 that certainly a good approach when you wish to kitbash but are working on a budget.
British Squidmar Miniatures seem pretty great. Thanks for having them on.
As someone who play GSC I can say how much kit bashing helps, when 90% of your hero’s can be kitbashed
>10 years ago, my local game store at the time did a kitbashing contest, and I decided to submit a very tongue-in-cheek thing: an ork where the blade of his choppa and barrel of his slugga had been swapped, so he had a pistol-grip dagger and a sword-grip gun. Never mind that I had my own custom jump pack Canoness (that was required at the time), a church on a land raider and so on, I wanted the minimalist approach to be shown off.
In almost every SM or CSM kit that allows it, I make a dual wielding model. Always look so cool to me. I have a dual wielding Sargent, Rubric, and a bladeguard vet that looks SO cool. There's a few others but those are my favorites.
Guide to kitbashing: buy twice the boxes to make half the models.
GW: "Hey we should actively encourage kitbashing again!"
Ehh not really there’s cheaper proxy type kitbashes too. The stormcast eternals into sanguinary guard are an easy one that costs half the price and gets twice the models before they changed them to a 3 man squad so now 3x as much. Just scrape away the cloaks, add an extra jump pack you have lying around from old models and find some wings at a local arts store. Still buying almost everything from GW but at a massive discount compared to what they would cost normally.
@@scott8448 yeah we just got to be more savvy with GW purchases to get the most out of it at this point.
Well, the spare models could be used as fodder for other projects.
This is where getting into Inq28 becomes a godsend. Any random model cobbled together from spare bits can work as an acceptable Inquisitor retinue. (Or for the Inquisition's foes).
Kitbashing is the part of the hobby I might enjoy the most. There’s just no limits to your creativity. Also, having four sets of monopose Ork Boyz I'm proud to say that none of them look the same. All I used were spare bits from one old Boyz box and a Nobz box whom I also managed to fully build.
Fantastic episode! That Word Bearers Daemon Prince is incredible and I've been using these guys for inspiration for some time now. I really appreciate these hobby episodes from you guys, please do more of this kind of content in the future
Remember, kids: if your opponent won't accept a reasonable proxy, you probably don't want to play with them anyway.
Oh, and unless you play vanilla Marines, your opponent doesn't know what your wargear is supposed to look like. And they're not looking anyway. Unless your Miniatures are painted, which leaves out 99% of you. 🤣
Proxying is filthy.
Counts as is fine though.
The big rule is 'Does this have rules in the game?' If yes the use those rules or its proxying which is bad. If not then work out what's the closest thing and use it as 'Counts-As'.
@ChrisKCook not all of us have a million dollars to spend on a hobby. It’s good to proxy models especially when you want to try something different, either new characters for your army or a different army come to mind.
Why should we pay GW $1000’s just so we can see if we like something different? Fuck, just off of GWs pricing you should be proxying models never mind their absolutely shit prints like the new sanguinary guard. Remember GW is a company not a charity that we need to support even when we feel they’re doing badly.
@scott8448 way to misrepresent what I was talking about.
A couple of one off games with stand ins to try out a new unit before you buy it is different.
And sod of with Justifying your cheeepnes. You're not an Anarchist sticking it to the Man. You're a Cheepskate meta chasing WAAC Powergamer Dudebro with no resp for their opponents.
Hobbies cost money get over it.
@@ChrisKCook my brother in Guilliman, you are commenting on a channel named "Poorhammer"
@@ChrisKCookim confused, what’s the difference, let’s say I have a custom kitbashed converted chapter master model and I use the terminator captain rules, even though it’s not that model.
41:10 those flat putty knife kinda shaped xacto blades are really nice for preventing these. One of my favorite hobby tools ever.
I just bought into Adeptus Mechanicus as my first army since vehicles had armor values, and it’s been really fun getting back into kitbashing. I bought some Grimghast Reapers to make into Fulgurite Priests and they look amazing. The best kit for bits is the Kataphron Breachers/Destroyers, I have more wires and cables and giant guns and robotic arms than I know what to do with after three of those boxes. The Skitarii box has a lot of extra weapons and stuff too since it can be built two different ways.
Magical Hack: Take a photo of your work from different angles and grey scale them... can save you on priming something that may not be ready to prime. Or I guess use an appropriate filter?
Still, in greyscale some colours will still show as difference in shade
Just want to say - I only just discovered your show... maybe 2 days ago??
I've already watched so much and I'm SO impressed with your content!
It's genuinely informative, some genuine personality between you guys, and you keep a really realistic perspective towards such an expensive game/hobby.
I'm already a fan, and I just wanted to say how proud I am of y'all for creating content of such high quality. Anyone can grab a pair of microphones and start a podcast, but I think you guys actually earned the right in spades!
Ty for this.
I've been really loving kitbashing for chaos because it's saves me so much money so far.
The chaos lord termiantor kit gave me enough to build both it and the sorcerer cause I had spare legs and body. Managed to use the Cavalry base from 2 skitari kits to kitbash some warpsmiths alongside spare maulerfiend bits . No idea when I'm ever going to need 3 warpsmiths but it's v v fun. I'm not good at it but am happy
I've bought 1 Tactical Squad, 1 Veteran Jumpack Squad, and 2 Devastator squads to kitbash them with primaris bodies to make them true scale.
Kierossover! Them being switched side wise is such a great little joke too.
I love kitbashing, I've got an Alpha Legion army that has Horus Heresy Marines, Dark Mech Skitarii Cultists, etc, and a Ynnari Corsairs army with a kitbashed Yriel, but I have been terrified of Green Stuff, so this helped me a lot, thanks! And the suggestion of chains/bits to cover green stuff is super great and I don't know why I never considered that before.
I gotta say man the variety of people in this hobby who are just chill creative entertaining people, out there doing awesome stuff and inspiring people, is just so amazing to see.
I haven’t been in this hobby for a year yet and it’s already been the most enjoyable and rewarding hobby I’ve been part of
This video literally got posted just as I opened youtube. Awesome!
I’ve just started warhammer and this was a super helpful episode as an understanding of what this means and is. My end goal dream is to kitbash chaos marines into alpha legion with their new deceptor detachment
my current kit bash is a Nurgle telemon using a leviathan siege dread as the top with wardog legs and putting a bunch of left over death guard bits.
Kitbashing is great.
I made Undead Space Marines, a Chaos Dreadnought, and gave Mortarion terroghiest wings.
Love the creativity options available
Currently my favourite is Knight armigers/war dogs. You can kitback some funky stuff straight out of the box, including making quadruped walkers. No additional bits required (but certainly desired depending on what you want!)
This was a much-needed lesson in poorhammering for many, and is going right into my all-purpose “mini painting” playlist for future rewatches. Thanks for answering my decades long question of what the heck green stuff actually is, and thanks Kierans for gracing us all!
Good episode topic! Thanks for introducin' me to the Kierans. Cheers from Catachan!
Really think the British sense of humour works insanely well with the general vibe of this channel 😂 kitbashing is my favourite part of the hobby, get that green stuff out!
This is the collab of my dreams
The company heroes box is incredible and in conjunction with the Black Templar combat patrol, was oddly enough a huge boon to my blood angel army. I got a captain with relic shield, a bladeguard ancient, a lieutenant, another bladeguard model, and a sternguard with the company heroes box and then used the martial and champion in the templar box to make two more bladeguard, made a judiciar using that dope ass double pointed sword, turned the 4 marines leading the novitiates into sternguard for a full unit of 5 now, got a shitty impulsor, and 4 scouts I can't use until I grab a 5th from a store somewhere.
Regardless, I got a huge complement of shit out of it and now I have a bunch of weapons with chains on them to kit out my death company and it's gonna look great. Love both of those boxes and I'm very happy with how things turned out.
(Paragraph/ IG advice below)
Also keep your army in mind. I know this sounds weird but your basic IG infantry could use a simple kit bash but also your paint job can carry it more then just swapping bits.
-For a beginner IG:
Add a cool head to lord Solar
Add a cape to a cadian castellen
Change the head on the primaris psycher
Add a bit of fur to the collar of a krieg marshal or commissar.
Add more bits to your lemun Russ
Swap the head on your rough riders
-For some intermediate stuff
Give a trooper the flamer tank backpack and clean the hand off the flamer. Take some wire and connect the two. Now he has a lasgun and a flamer.
Magnetize your tanks. (Please do this. it’s ok I believe in you!)
Give a krieger or infantrymen a rocket launcher from the Heavy weapons kit. Put it on their back as their running.
Give the lord Solar a rifle pouch.
Put gas mask (more like the old steel legion) on your infantry.
Give your infantry a great coat to look like the old steel legion or valhallen.
Give the helmet or face goggles.
O7 to all my fellow guard players I can’t wait to see what you do and see you on the battlefield! Feel free to drop more below!
Heck, most IG vehicles have weapon options that can be swapped without magnets. Holding firm in slots with friction alone. It goes without saying you should do this whenever possible.
Also, if you don't care about using GW models, there's a lot of Historical miniatures from other manufacturers that can be kitbashed into Guard squads. Much cheaper than buying kits from GW. Setting aside Wargames Atlantic, who just sell Guard-compatible kits, of course.
For awesome orky kitbashes, gonna recommend the Drunken Ork, dude makes stuff that looks like it's from a box.
Very cool one - It really shows the kitbashing journey is kinda universal as I found myself in a lot of situations yall described. Two years ago I was pretty sure kitbashing would never be for me, and now I kitbash almost every unit I get for my CSM army !
I've done 3 kitbashes:
1) A lokhust heavy destroyer with lychguard arms for a lokhust lord
2) I got a free infernus marine from my flgs, so i turned it into a lieutenant with combi weapon proxie (I literally just had him holding a knife, he doesn't actually have a combi weapon either)
3) I, not knowing that it would do this, was using acetone to strip some scarab occult terminators, and it partially melted. I cut it up some and turned it into a chaos spawn, and was luckily only doing one at a time, so I only lost the one.
Lovely episode! I've done a little kitbashing to fix my seraphim from the old sisters combat patrols and am planning on turning my 2nd combat patrol repentia superior into a palatine. Going to be a lot more work but I'm very excited to see how it turns out!
Ah yes good advice. Starting small with weapon and headswaps.
I started kitbashing by building a 3,5k point army of deamons of the ruinstorm from scratch. It was fun and rewarding but by far not my best idea. It was haaaard.
I’ve just started my orks so this episode is great thank you guys
the crossover we never knew we needed. love both channels, great collab! :)
What got me into kitbashing was the Mechanicus game. Mechanicus and Necrons are my two favorite armies already, then the game adds a level of customization you don't see in the models, and introduced to me the Xenarites. I put two and two together, as well as some Mechanicus and Necron bits, and now I have a small Xenarite army. What helped a lot was the youtube channel Kitbosh, who does some pretty crazy kitbashing that fully involves sculpting and carving into the model and lots of greenstuff. Some of my best work came from using those ideas, though I still haven't used greenstuff because I'm scared lol
This episode fucking rocked. Loved the dynamic between you all. Also, I adore kitbashing and always want to learn more about it.
Thanks, gents!
THIS is my favorite thing in 40k! Kitbashing is the best!
Hell ya the Kieran’s love their content
Kitbashing is so satisfying. I did a pretty extensive kitbash and 3d print mashup to replace grimaldus' servitor helpers with a contingent of chaplains. It looks super cool and it's amazing to think that I'm probably the only person in the world who's done that conversion in that specific way.
WOAH, Kierans on Poorhammer?! No-one could ever have predicted this!
If you want good bits, Frostgrave stuff is almost all compatible with each other. Frostgrave wizard arms with Stargrave squid head with cultist body? Sure. Knight with halo hair wizard head, skeletal arm and machine gun? No issues there.
Favorite basic kitbash I've done was using canoptek wraith tails in place of wraithlord legs, I was the only craftword player at my lgs at the time so when someone came in with a proper wraithlord the playgroup was impressed with their "kitbash"
should have given smol Kieran the T'au and swole Kieran an Ultra Marine so that they represent their favorite Armies.
Just when i started working on plans for an avatar of Cegorath ! Perfect !
I really like the grey knights wrist stormbolters, they can add so much to character models of every chapter.
Great work guys! Berilio the real MVP with the edits.
Would love to see that Demon Army, and excited for the Genestealers once that project gets going!
41:05 idunno, i was tired! as multiple people have said it is lucky i can even use my right thumb, let alone that i managed to miss everything important in the space between the knuckle and joint of your thumb!
fun episode, though! remember, buy a cutmat, and 3d printing can often supplement whatever you find from boxes!
I'm still an amateur, one of my biggest kitbashes was taking a Sisters rhino and using it for my Death Guard. Covering it in terrain mud for texture, some icon bits from the Maggotkin extra bits, nurglings and a corpse from Lord of Afflictions bits. Putting some scratches and bullet marks for some more texture.
16:45
You have the warp talons / raptors box if you build raptors you can easily build chosen with a box of Legionaries and if you use the Nightlord killteam box you get the best chosen.
My very first model was the Exalted Champion in a box of AOS Chaos Chosen. I dropped the spiky bit for his shoulder and never found it. I ended up clipping the horn off an unhelmeted head I knew i wasn't going to use as a replacement. My second box of Chosen features some intentional head swaps and unintentional shoulder swaps. And i made a second beast snagga nob out of one of the monopose, mono-option boys and spare nob parts from the snagga and squighog kits in the Ork combat patrol. That second set of boys in the box has been my first foray into weapon swaps, including bashing one boys slugga into a plasma gun since my friends and play OPR that's an available unit upgrade.
Awe, this is an awesome combo. I love the Kieran show. Criminally underrated. Was shocked the last time I saw their subscribers and view count. They're awesome. His tau and chaos space wolves are discusting.
My favorite kitbash was a headswap I did. I was taking the head off the coldstar commander from tau and replacing it with a zaku 2 head and painting like char's zaku
I’ve been at the hobby for about a year now and jumped into kitbashing CSM for my first army. Just about every unit Ive built from sprue is kitbashed in some way.
For those wondering it’s an alpha legion army that has a sci-fi mesoamerican theme.
I recently kitbashed a morkanaut togethor with bits form a stompa , random panels and the top of a baneblade to make a mock metalgear rex
i love kits like exalted sorcerors, where its just bits galore. my go-to's for marines are def the company heroes kieran mentioned, and also the marine devastator kit. if you buy the dev kit, it comes with enough spare arms and guns to turn any basic marine kit into 2 extra 5 man squads, with sparw bits leftover still (also the only marine kit i know of with a spare set of legs)
Thanks, gonna kitbash a primaris captain to make you guys proud
This and Tasting History immediately below it.
Tuesdays are my favorite RUclips days.
My first kitbash was when I worked on my Chaos Rhino my friend got me. I took a leftover helmet, shoulder plates and front chestplate from my Rubrics, and put them on the gun turret guy, and then I also cut up the spikes along the front and replaced two of them with the bird-like gargoyle head bits. I really wanna make the kitbash terminator sorcerer you pointed out too, but sadly I can’t afford to buy the chaos lord in terminator armor to kitbash with my SOT bits
I've been kitbashing upscaled firstborn marines by taking the HH mk6 bodies, shaving off the knee pads, greenstuffing mk7 or mk4 ones on them and then also replacing the torsos.
They look great
This was timed perfectly. Im building my mechanicus army and wanted to make all the tech priests full kitbashes. Having only done small head/arm swaps, this has alot of good info.
I really like this . I've kitbashed other minis mostly starwars. I've only just started but glad it's OK to switch Arms and heads and be ok .
I've done the trophy hunting space marines with fur and chains. I've removed all the aquila's and replaced them with skulls and rib cages. I mostly use a dremel to remove large amounts of plastic.
celestian sacresants for sisters are THE best kitbashing box for like the base body, i used a box of them to make sisters characters, using swords from my seraphim to make palatines and stuff like that
GW latest monopose jigsaw miniatures makes my inner kitbasher cry. They used to be so easy to kitbash.
im looking to get into orks, and will be getting the older boyz as the newer ones are too monopose.
In my first kitbash mission i used miliput to make two Beast of Nurgles from one kit.
Tanks to a realy nice tutorial.
TBF I do some conversion here and there.
Some was fun, some make me realise mistakes (never print a backpack with tiny wings with resin, it breaks by breathing)
But out of that, swapped some heads, changed Belial into a grand master for my grey knights by switching head and both arms, changed a judiciar and emperor champion into grey knights champions... That's why I like grey knights this much, every marine is a grey knight waiting conversion
As a space wolves player weapon and head swaps are pretty good going with all the options out there. I’m still dipping into the parts from my first two troops boxes. Tho my personal best kitbash is the deathwing knight mini of the month into a wolf guard/ Arjac rockfist. Lotta cutting and tweaking to get the old parts to fit the new scale of minis
I think my favorite inspiration for looking to try kit bashing was a Tyracon line from years ago where someone took Necron and Tau bits to make Tyranid units.
Listening to this while planning an Exodite kitbash, you gents read my mind
that was grea,t thanks kierans!
Shaving off chaos trim from the various belt fed bolters on chaos guys to make them fit loyalists.
Belt fed bolters are cool
Perfect timing, I was just thinking on how to do a possible named character or 2 for a homebrew SM Chapter I've been working on. One idea I have is a Terminator Chaplain, but with Stormcast legs to make him taller (A bit of an Alexis Pollux or Tyberos situation) and teh Chapter Master, an Emporer's Champion with Abhorrant Gorewarden wings, and a Captain's Relic Shield on the off hand. Granted, the Chapter Master is more of a conversion, but still probably some great info in this video
2:48 brad the abbadon kitbash looks amazing
Really loved the insight and inspiration from this episode, great stuff! :)
I stated with little things like head swaps, started swapping out swords on models that didn't quite fit together, then ended up doing a full conversion combining lemartes and a Lord-Relictor. Now I gotta learn greenstuff.
Our lord and saviour Duncan did an amazing kit bash form a new Coteaz mini. Highly recommend that video
Thanks for the video.
I always hated the little driver dude in the Triarch Stalker, so I was able to use the main body from the Reanimator and jam that where the cockpit was and it looks way more ominous compared to Jack Skellington driving it.
I also have plans and parts to bash a Grey Knights Kill Team into Legion of the Damned, with head & pauldron swaps and sculpting fire on them.
I dug up my brother's old minis (from the old battle of Macragge box and some other boxes) and he did some pretty neat stuff and some wacky stuff for an 11 year old back then.
Putting all weapon and arm options on the Tyranids, giving them 2 heads or giving the ultramarine captain or sergeant all his weapon options (he had 4 arms), but he also give one of the minis 2 Tyranid heads as trophies so that was neat.
He also had some Tau and Eldar minis, sadly a head is missing and one Tau has an arm missing and it's covered up with the shoulder plate.
And I'm thinking of making them functional for tabletop games but I don't know where to begin with the options, especially since the Swarmlord might have too many arms as well.
For the talk around 17 ish min mark for the exalted sorcerer box honestly would be best for each armies like chaplain/librarian designated magic heroes where they normally have like 5 options per model and a ton of variety for each unit in there.
Get the little saw toothed blades so if you are trying to cut something and it's not cutting with a blade, you can just saw it, the right tiny saw blades still cut very fine and very thin, and look great, but they are SO MUCH safer and even cleaner on thicker/tougher cuts.
Kill Team boxes are great for bits. Personal favourites Legionaries, Phobos Strike team and Kommandos.
I've had a Drukhari Venom kit sitting in my pile of shame for a while now. It occurred to me, a little while ago, that I could make my own Succubus by taking one of the Wych hangers-on, stick her on a jutting terrain piece, give her a spare weapon from my bits box, and maybe give her some grisly trophies. (I backed Pete the Wargamer's "Dead Animal Bits" sprue kickstarter, so I'm going to have plenty of them to work with in a couple months). I already have (or will have) all the parts for it. So why not? It'll look unique, and distinct enough to stand out on the tabletop from five feet away.
Kitbashing, my love. Talos/Chronos kit is *absolutely* a treasure trove, and I bought one just to have bits for my word bearers. Most notably, one of my maulerfiends' lasher tendrils are tentacle-arms from that kit because i built it in the Forgefiend pose to accommodate the giant mammoth head I gave it. My other favorite kit for kitbashing was the old CSM possessed kit, and I miss it.
EDIT: Still listening but god the point at 27:27 is so fuckin funny to me. I have a Daemon Prince that I kitbashed with with one of the ends of the forgefiend jaw-cannons and used greenstuff to coat the joint with "fur." But because I decided to not give him arms for the project (Chaos!), I cannot tell you how many opponents said to me, "How does he attack, he has no arms!" lol
Oh and as a bonus, I also used a Dark Eldar whip to give him a long, lashing tongue.