@@kingslimekira u don’t necessarily have to build 4pcs emblem on XQ and XL but what im saying i can use the 2pcs shimenawa/2pcs Emblem then use stongbox for noblesse while im trying to give my raiden a better 4pcs emblem
raiden national is like the polar opposite to morgana. Morgana is op in aoe and light enemies, and alright against single heavy enemies, while raiden national is amazing in single target heavy enemies, and alright against aoe light enemies.
I used to play it since i got Raiden and i slowly build Xingqiu and Xiangling into beasts but now that i finally got Raiden C2 and Sara C6 i'm using Raiden Hypercarry, it just feels way too op
That's because it is broken Her C2 is the best constellation in the game. Or at least a competes for the best one. Try using her at C0. It's good but not "broken". Basically a Hoge power boost on a balanced characters results in maximum cancerous damage
Raiden national really changed how i do abyss, my Ganyu, hu tao and xiao are benched nowadays. I use Raiden national and Ayaka freeze for most of the content. 🤣
@@NightmareQueen yeah I use Ganyu in that team with elegy buff. I meant that I benched Ganyu as a dps even tho I had a r5 cresent. I only take Ganyu out when there's content that can not be cleared easily and I'm being too lazy. I give her cresent, xiangling, Zhongli shield and Bennett.🤣
Regarding Raiden's Sands and Goblet I'm using the Catch and my observations are - Get the ER you need first. Which means if you can get it from Substats, then you can run ATK Sands and Electro Goblet. - If you can't, then use ER Sands. You can then use ATK Goblet. - I used Raiden with ATK Sands and Goblet before, but only had 212% ER, and I can't get good rotations. Now I changed to ER Sands, now with 250% ER, and it still does the same damage but now with better rotation. - The Catch with ER Sands and ATK Goblet, or ATK Sand and ATK Goblet seems to produce similar damage. But having more ER means better rotation so I just go with ER Sands. - If you only have either ATK or Electro DMG Bonus, they seems to perform similar. Which means ATK Goblet can be substitute.
Same bruhhhhhhhhhhhh! But in this case its about my xiangling. Had to ditch xingqiu because i need er sands for my xiangling otherwise the rotation will not be smooth
Yeah. I used have her use atk% sands and electro dmg goblet because it made her hit harder but I eventually switched to ER and Atk% so that I don't have to generate energy for her. Rotations are so smooth now because of it
@@coffeemug1012 I knew it did not, what I did not know was that it was not crit dependent. Otherwise people would have been running Beidou Sara. I can’t even begin to imagine the destruction that would have caused.
Honestly in my opinion she is a must pull even for the new players. Back in september theorycrafters didnt recommend her and the community constantly said that she was the weakest archon out of the 3 but for the last 6 months she has been the most important unit on every abyss rotation as of now
I wouldnt use the word must pull to lightly in a gacha game, but she is very useful in teams she works in. She has her own niche she fills and can not be replaced which could be said for other characters.
Actually, KQM and 1010 has always said she was good. Even from the start Raiden National was known to be good. It's all the reactionaries that said she was bad.
@@XaneKudo See ruclips.net/video/D9EWZQf-K54/видео.html , but even 1010's first raiden video noted that Raiden National was a viable pick despite initial uncertainty. I'll admit that 1010 can be a bit of a doomposter though, his first impressions are pretty off most of the time (but that's not unexpected).
Another place you can invest in Raiden National is leveling XL to 90/90, since you trigger so many overloads per rotation, quite a decent and guaranteed damage increase
@@neuldjaan2655 dmg wise only since crimson boost pyro and reaction dmg. So it is a good option for raiden national team as you hv overload & vaporise. Non-national team usually only hv 1 reaction which makes emblem set better
@@justaweeb14688 use anything you want. The team is already broken, does a lot of damage. As long as you are comfortable with the rotation and the set you use has good stats.
Another downside to Raiden National is it takes 3 of the best supports in the game, 4 if we're counting shogun plus it takes XQ who is literally a foundation of pyro vape teams. But other than that this team slaps.
Thats why if you doesn't have enough team raiden national is not worth, but i think most meta player already have a team that doesn't even need bennet, xq, xl for example like ayaka/ganyu freeze, xiao, itto, eula
Raiden was a game changer for my account. There hasn't been a single abyss I haven't been able to 36* since then. So easy to optimize for low spenders/f2p. The game gives you her best 4* weapon for free. Can't really imagine the meta shifting to Raiden nat ever being bad.
Truly the best team comp so far. Did not regret pulling for Raiden. I switched the Xingqiu in Raiden National with Kazuha bcs I need him for Hutao on the second team, still works extremely well, easy 36* as always.
Finally went around to using this team and my altered Morgana (Kokomi, Kazuha, Rosaria, and Ganyu) for this abyss and it was so easy. My potato laptop always gave me trouble even in Floor 11 but it was so easy with these teams. I was doing Floor 12 last night with these teams too but didn't finish bc the game crashed 😂 After uni later I'll do it again ahahaha
Bennet should be ran with high base atk weapons such as aquilla favonia or the prototype rancour. Normal Bennets should have around 200 er and with raiden that means 100% burst up time for bennet so there is no need to use an er weapon on bennet.
Mine has 220% ER with an ER - Sands and with a Skyward Blade could even have 270% ER. Almost more than my Raiden. But I only put so much ER on him outside of Raiden teams. Than I can get his Q back with 1 E in a rotation. With Raiden I use my Mistsplitter because it has 675 base damage instead of the 600 from Skyward.
With 200% ER you may be fine in overworld against many enemies that drop a lot of particles. But in Spiral Abyss you will run painfully oom in floor 12 way too often. I have an Engulfing Lighting and run my Raiden at 270% ER most of the time. It isn't just comfortable to use but gives me the highest damage output with my current sets even though I have Attack sands with comparable substats. I am also using Genshin Optimizer frequently to find the best builds.
I think this is not the right rotation....theres no point in using xingqiu after benneth and xiangling, he doesnt even snapshot, plus you get lot less benneth's burst duration for your Raiden plus your Xingqiu burst duration is long way to expire after Raiden Q infusion duration is over. I would say Raiden E to Xingqiu E Q to Benneth Q E to Xiangling Q E to Raiden Q is much more optimised gameplay.
it's actually correct because xiangling applying pyro followed by xingqiu (buffed by bennett) vaping both his E hits is a big chunk of damage. See 3:12 where XQ's two E hits do 62k and 71k respectively. And since he doesn't snapshot, you can only maximize his damage while you have bennett's buff whereas xiangling's damage stays constant throughout the rotation.
@@nf7694 Doing one big vape with Xingqiu doesn't mean the whole team dps is huge. You can also vape for big numbers with Benneth Q after Xingqiu E Q if your benneth is built strong. You lose a lot of Benneth's ult duration for your Raiden in this rotation, and Raiden's dmg is not to be underestimated. Also, with the rotation I explained, Xiangling is able to vape right from the start of her ult becuz of Xingqiu hydro application as opposed to going for one big vape with Xingqiu. I have tested both rotations significantly and I have found the one I suggested to be more optimal and higher dps overall.
@@nf7694 the xingqiu kick its not worth it, that is why in c6 the sacrificial sword is not even top 5 for him and you can look the greyhounds sheets, xingqiu's q is always before bennet's q
National raiden is something I almost completely forgot about. Which is perfect, because I have all 4 characters built already. And I'm already set satisfied with Yae/Sara or Fischl/Zhongli/Albedo to clear the wolf in abyss on 2nd half. Electro Abyss supremacy here I come
Good guide, and it's definitely worth repeating what TenTen said: use the Genshin optimizer! Especially for Raiden, who scales on 4 different stats (ATK%/CR/CD/ER) and has a complex kit, sometimes the best build is not the immediately obvious "big CV pieces hurr durr". It's funny that when this Abyss cycle came out, some people's reaction to Wolflord was "oh this is a big nerf to Rational, you can't run Rational on bottom half anymore because you need Geo". But they seriously underestimate Rational's damage output. Rational can skip the Wolflord's shield phase entirely by lining up its burst window with the Wolflord's DPS window. Here's a demonstration with my own Rational team (F2P, C0 Raiden): ruclips.net/video/u8OQX0Axflc/видео.html
yep lmao just found out that my atk sands is better than my er sands despite having lower CV for my raiden through the optimizer. Highly recommend using it.
@@ChaosRune I optimize for Burst initial hit damage too since it's the majority of her damage. I set ER >= 260% because I like high ER but that's just me.
Uhhh, If you use Engulfing Lightning, attack becomes less valuable because that weapon already gives a lot of it. You should really consider swapping to an electro goblet or switching your sands to ER because EL can make use of ER better than other weapons.
@@coffeemug1012 While what you say is probably true, the issue is the reasoning he gave was flat out incorrect. One look at the tooltip of EL will tell you this.
I agree putting Electro goblet instead of atk goblet to raiden only if she has the hyper carry team, cause that team comp gives her so much atk boost than raiden national team.
thats what im thinking as well. its kinda questionable that he uses atk sands AND atk goblet when he uses EL on raiden. That is wayyy too much atk. Also surprisingly theres a lot of info that is just wrong in this vid, 200 er on raiden is actually not enuf for her to consistently get her burst back up. the recommended amount (based on my experience and so far many others as well) is around 230 - 250. I must say overall this is not tentens best vid but still appreciate his content anyways.
I agree on this one. As much as i respect tenten since he's a very good theory crafter, he's just completely incorrect with this one. Because EL passive is basically er = atk%. So you better go er sands. And raiden is basically er = electro dmg%. So raiden with EL + atk% sands is just that. While raiden with EL + er sands = extra Atk% + extra electro dmg %
If the boss enemy move around alot i use dragonbane on xiangling. That way you get to use both her and raiden as duo sub dps. So go raiden E, bennet EQ, xingxiu EQ, xiangling EQ do ur dmg till pyronado gone. Then reapply raiden E bennet EQ, xingxiu EQ, into raiden Q. It will give higher resolve to raiden and you will be more flexible in movement instead of being tied to bennet circle
I honestly can't fathom how ~200 er on raiden is enough. That's low and your rotation is gimped. Unless you're doing your rational test runs on a bunch of enemies or golems coz they give crap ton particles making u think ER is okay at ~200. We should always aim around 250er for our raiden
@@Ben-vg6ox that's fair. Higher than 1010's rec 200 so u got a bit more there, tho, if you're 3/4 full after a rotation on pma, it is absolutely okay. But, if 3/4 full after a rotation on waves of enemies, then surely that's not desirable
I've found it similar. I've been staying with 230 er on a homa until I got my EL, and the difference is very noticable. 250+ is the way, at least for me.
I am used to 270% ER. In overworld this is overkill. But Spiral Abyss so often literally starves you off particles with single target enemies and stuff. And sometimes you don't get to do her full burst. Because either the enemy is dead too soon or your own health bar goes critical. And since Raidens damage scales well with ER there is no loss right there. In fact. With my current artifacts the highest damage I can get is with an ER sands.
If you already have enough damage, you can always run higher ER to make sure your rotation flow not easily interrupted in abyss (example, enemy dies / stage cleared before Raiden finish her burst) Raiden min 220 ER Xiangling min 215 ER Xingqiu min 200 ER (C6, 220-240 pre C6) Benny just put your highest ER Noblesee
Isnt the rotation Raiden E - XQ ult - Bennet E Q (for extra vaporize) - Xiangling E Q - XQ E - Raiden Q. I heard its like this so Raiden can take more time standing on Bennet's ult since she doesn't snapshot.
Funny enough but I played the same chamber (pma) with rational and fischl national just to get a slight better result with fischl (C0 Raiden lvl 81/90, 9 Burst, Fischl lvl 70 C6). Which was very surprising. Same team concept, always strong!
imo it is better to use Xingqiu second in your rotation unless you have E lvl 13 or R5/R1 4*/5*. You will be back with up to use E and let Raiden covers whole bennett burst. It is just smoother rotation and same output. Furthermore, according to my testing, you can squeeze more damage for Xingqiu and Xiangling by lowering their ER and increasing ER on Raiden, you won't loss much but all team members benefit from that. You brought interesting point with dragon's bane EM and overload. I am not sure tho if it can outperforms R5 wavebreaker or R1 Homa. Lastly, Raiden national is really interesting comp, but if you can run Raiden Hypercarry it is besically better because it frees xingqiu and xiangling, and it can finish most chambers faster.
Raiden national is my favorite team to play as a player with heavy skill issues who only play for gacha. I rolled raiden for waifu reasons but i love raiden national so much I crowned her and never gets out of emblem domain now.
1 thing: due to XQ not snapshotting with his burst you can actually do Raiden E, Xingqiu E,Q, (E) Bennett Q, NA1 E, Xangling Q, E. But this only really matters if you have decent 4p NO artifacts on him which most people don't
Yes, also xinqiu burst has a longer duration than the others, meaning that starting the rotation with him allows you to keep the other bursts for more time
for some reason i was expecting to be underwhelmed by raiden national, but it totally blew me out of the water when i pulled raiden. seriously insane, even my super high investment ayaka freeze team can't clear content nearly as fast
@@MegaSJ idk if ur being sarcastic, but it kinda is for me. i was already using national team variations before i pulled raiden so they were all pre-built, and i'm not using any other teams that require those supports very often either. i main ayaka eula & xiao, so none of them need bennett xingqiu or xiangling.
Same situation, but in my case it was almost as high dmg as my ayaka freeze which was really invested. That was before my c2 raiden tho. Now she literally obliterates anything even easier.
Let's be honest...National team is honestly just Bennett + Xiangling, haha. In the abyss, depending on the situation, I use *Archon National* (Zhongli, Raiden, Bennett and Xiangling), it's quite a broken team. When I have to use Hu Tao with Zhongli and Xingqiu, I basically swap the slot with Diona and it becomes (Diona, Raiden, Bennett and Xiangling). I've 36 starred the abyss like this so I came to the conclusion that the national comp's two must use characters are Bennett and Xiangling, everyone else can be swapped out to cater for what you have, which is great. *Archon National* is so much fun, I recommend anyone to try it if you have the characters xD. Petrification makees up for the overload reaction of knocking enemies back and that 20% res shred from Zhongli is especially welcomed by C0 Raiden.
So... all the point of this video is how to build your xiangling and how to choose her the best team depending the conditions to maximise your damage. The damage of your entire account. Cause you know it's xiangling impact
i used xiangling, sucrose, raiden, bennet so basically an overload raiden team since i have to pair xingqiu with hutao on team 2, and i cleared the new abyss 12-1-1 faster than my childe taser team eventhough i pair childe with beidou or fischl, and also my overload raiden has faster team energy regen so faster rotation so its super comfortable to play, totally recommended cant wait to see ayato whipping up new meta teams with his burst aoe, perhaps freeing up xingqiu and become a core member of some new taser comp
I only have Xiangling and Raiden but just these two work soo well together. I also have Jean in my team and I just love using Jean with these two, I rarely need food. Sometimes I switch Jean with Sayu cause I love her playstyle so much and it is fun swirling electro and pyro around whilst rolling into enemies. The fourth character is not really set in my team, sometimes I use Succrose, she keeps all the enemies in one place or Child for the Hydro application or his burst. Nevertheless I love Xianling and Raiden together, they are always in my team and sometimes having just them is Chef kiss.
I don't know what you'd ever run Rational when Raiden Hypercarry has close to the same single target, blows it completely out the water in AoE (even at C0!) in both raw numbers AND grouping, and frees up XQ for your second team.
only requires bennet, a c6 sara, and a kazuha... this team is good because it's only requires 1 5* character. Raiden hypercarry has way higher constellation requirements from the supports and requires another 5* unit that wasn't popular at all during his launch.
@@changen4125 it's impressive how you managed to fit 3 misconceptions in such a short comment, i highly suggest reading her kqm guide if you actually wanna know more about that team.
@@changen4125 It does not require Sara, or Kazuha. Lisa for def shred, Sucrose for VV role consolidation, Mona for Omen, or even ToM Kokomi are all good TTDS holders as a C6 Sara substitute. Jean for Sunfire combo and Hakushin Sucrose are both really close to Kazuha since Raiden is already saturated with the damage bonus that Kazuha provides. Every permutation of characters I listed blows Rational out of the water for AoE, stray unvaped XL hits cannot compete with VV+2 extra Raiden buffs.
@@Pro-Hunter You dont say? But it is viable because there is only one of each you mentioned. Are you telling me Kazuha c6r5 is better than Kazuha c0 now? Also running Raiden hyper with Fischl is just so good because the rotation is so smooth.
@tenten I think it would be nice if you went over how to use genshin optimizer, such as when calculating builds, do we go off initial burst damage when engulfing lighting passive is active? or not active? because my builds change depending on that it seems.
Ty for mentioning Xingqiu's constellations. I feel like everyone who recommends drastically dropping XQ's ER in this comp has a C6 XQ. Meanwhile, my C5 XQ still needs a sac sword to not require extra energy funneling.
While the video is good and has overall well thought out, many terms you used eg. 'Snappshottable' as well as the N-codes require existing in depth knowledge of genshin combat mechanics and thus new players are unlikely to be able to understand your guides. Maybe a video explaining these terms in depth could help? Thanks for the guide tho, rlly helped alot
I've 130 ER C6 Xingqiu Using lion roar in Raiden National messes up the rotation. Xq doesn't gets his Ult back. My 180-190er XL doesn't get her ult back too. Whereas it's not the case if I use sac sword Also my Raiden has 240Er with Engulfing Lightning And 270er with Catch
I have 180-200 ER XIngqiu using Lion's Roar and its more than enough. I find that Sac Sword delays my rotation for 1-3 secs so I dropped it. 180 ER for Xiangling doesn't work for me as well, I have 200 ER with her and it's much smoother imo. I only go lower than 200 ER if Bennett has favonius sword.
@@kanashiiinu9124 ya using sac sword will delay the Bennet ult duration for Raiden to use her Ultimate. That's why Im using atk sands & electro goblet for my EL Raiden
the problem will be is exchanging those artifacts if im gonna switch back again to the other national team..... demn when will hoyoverse make those QoL of saving recent artifacts from a certain char and easily switch back again without getting lost from your artifact list ;_; ..,
Because players tend to equip all their characters they want to play, if we can set a whole team in seconds, we will tend not to farm more. So they will loose money/our time spent in game if they put any QOL change about artifacts presets. It's sad. easy solution : use an artifact optimizer and save each configuration of your 2 abyss teams"
This video just appeared in my recommended again and got me thinking now that Yelan is a thing. I have a spare Elegy for the End which would go incredibly well with that this team does (100 EM for everyone, and since EM doens't snapshot it is fine to use after Xiangling's Burst). The only drawback I can think of is that Xingqiu with Lion's Roar would be doing more personal damage, but then again Yelan would give Raiden some more elemental damage as well.
Only matter for c6 xl because guoba can snapshot it, and yeah, you should start with xq burst, even vefore bennett, but only if you manage to weave in normal attacks during your rotation to maximize his burst damage.
Personally, I just swap Xiangling for Kazuha since it's more fun and makes Raiden do most of the damage. It is still as good and do the job. I can't tell exactly which is stronger and helped me more in the abyss, it's just that the Kazuha version suited me better.
I think a better rotation is Raiden E -> Xingqiu QEE -> Bennett EQ -> Xiangling QE -> Raiden Q. The reason behind this is so Raiden can get more Bennett burst up time
Does Engulfing Lightning catapult ER sands ahead of ATK sands? The weapon passive gives +14.5 ATK when using a fully upgraded ER sands. Raiden's A4 talent also gives 20.7% Electro damage when using ER sands. Of course, the extra ER also makes rotations more comfy, which shouldn't be discounted since recent Abyss trends towards enemies that don't drop as many HP particles + enemies that are highly mobile and tend to move out of melee range. Taken together, it was my understanding that ER sands is superior if Raiden is wielding Engulfing Lightning.
yeah that's what it says on the keqingmains Raiden guide. That ER sands will be better when used with Engulfing Lightning, and will perform even better when used with ATK% buffs from Bennet or Sara.
People sleep on Kitain Cross Spear. That weapon slaps on XL and helps a lot with the energy problems. With a little adjustment in rotation your XL will always have the pyronado available without the need for energy funnelling, and since it have EM stats works really well in Rational.
@Félix i test the team on the big lizard, my bennet has 250 er, xq has 200, and raiden has 250... i can still get xiangling burst before cooldown ends but its kinda inconvenient having to funnel more particles
I really don't know about you guys, maybe I am just shit but me with Raiden 250 ER still think Xiangling need around 220 ER and Xingqiu around 190-200 ER for smooth rotation.
If i already have maxed sac sword on my xingqiu and maxed fav lance on my xiangling should I still switch to lion's roar and dragons bane? That would consume two max weapons worth of resin and exp ores. Would it significantly increase my damage or it is more worth it to just stick to my current build??? PLEASEEEE HELPPP!!!
Please check this. ER sand with A4 + sets artifact give more electro dmg than running electro sand. Because of that artifact set up on her could be ER ATK CD/CR
I have a lot of work to do to build Raiden national especially since I just acquired Raiden, and had some bad luck with her last rerun. Also I have dragons vane and lions roar on around r3 just not leveled😁
Hello~ I need some help here :D What if I pulled Sara c2 while pulling for Raiden, and now I have Raiden and Sara. Which Character should I swap out of the National Team if I want to play Raiden + Sara on the Same team? Should I Keep Xinqiu and Xianling? Should I Keep Bennet + Sara for Buff and only pick one of Xinqiu or Xianling? Should I pick a different character altogether? What would be the best option in this particular scenario. (I know Raiden National is so good, but I like Sara and I want to make her work with my Raiden ;) ) Any feedback is appreciated!
im pretty late but im sure you just wanna keep bennett and xiangling together, so running sara and raiden with those two should be good. if you some how get a c6 sara your raiden will be omega buff. other team comps ive seen are what the guy above me mentioned with bennett and any anemo support, which jean also fits in for sunfire synergy,
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Raiden + national = Rational (haha very original)
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R1 Jade Cutter or R5 Lion's Roar for Xingqiu 🤔🤔
Hey tenten, is venti value still 5/5 or it's already drop to maybe 3/5?
@@yoda5358 jade cutter all the way obviously
i heard this from someone, "E(i)ternational"
Raiden national is the rational choice.
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1010 isn't a XL salesman Clueless
Dude what wtf do you even want to accomplish by doing this ?
TOOBASED
@@goldwally1428 his goals are beyond ur understanding
Honesty, the fact that i can build Raiden, Xq , XL on a single domain and put a noblesse on Bennett makes me really appreciate this team
yeah it's pretty crazy this top meta team mostly use emblem 4 piece set of 3 out of 4 member since bennett cant really separate with 4NO
Then you strongbox your trash emblem for noblesse
Farming the whole team in one go lol
But that also come with the problem that everyone want to use the same set. But yea it's resin efficient domain
Imo not worth it. 2pc hydro+2pc noblesse on xq and 2pc crimson+2pc noblesse XL is much more effective than farming 3 sets of 4pc emblem
@@kingslimekira u don’t necessarily have to build 4pcs emblem on XQ and XL but what im saying i can use the 2pcs shimenawa/2pcs Emblem then use stongbox for noblesse while im trying to give my raiden a better 4pcs emblem
my favorite part of the rotation is Raiden skill to Raiden burst hitting nothing because the Bennett swap didn't register from high ping
Finally a person relates to my pain
When quick swap teams become just swap teams
LMAO
@@jsim7 when quick swap teams becomes barely swap teams
LMFAOOO
raiden national is like the polar opposite to morgana. Morgana is op in aoe and light enemies, and alright against single heavy enemies, while raiden national is amazing in single target heavy enemies, and alright against aoe light enemies.
meanwhile we have international which is good at both
Meanwhile childe international exists.
I agree with ur statement bro
And then we have international that excel at both xD
The reply section be like:
*Ah yes......International...*
I used to play it since i got Raiden and i slowly build Xingqiu and Xiangling into beasts but now that i finally got Raiden C2 and Sara C6 i'm using Raiden Hypercarry, it just feels way too op
I got Raiden C1 and after a Mona dupe, I kinda quit for a while after that lol.
That's because it is broken
Her C2 is the best constellation in the game. Or at least a competes for the best one.
Try using her at C0. It's good but not "broken". Basically a Hoge power boost on a balanced characters results in maximum cancerous damage
@@Lilliana1 Raiden hypercarry is already OP whether C2/C0. At C0 it competes with National, but C2 is on whole another level.
@@phai44 you need C6 kujou sara buff to make C0 Raiden compete with national.
Otherwise it's impossible.
@abyss lord it is possible with kazuha. You dont need C6 Sara.
Raiden national really changed how i do abyss, my Ganyu, hu tao and xiao are benched nowadays.
I use Raiden national and Ayaka freeze for most of the content. 🤣
Your Ayaka freeze team would be even better if you use Ganyu in it.
@@NightmareQueen yeah I use Ganyu in that team with elegy buff.
I meant that I benched Ganyu as a dps even tho I had a r5 cresent.
I only take Ganyu out when there's content that can not be cleared easily and I'm being too lazy. I give her cresent, xiangling, Zhongli shield and Bennett.🤣
@@NightmareQueen Ayaka , Kazuha, Shenhe, Kazuha(Mona if you are excellent timer)
Yo that's literally me..raiden national and ayaya freeze ftw
@@sentience3033 You have two Kazuha? Crazy
Regarding Raiden's Sands and Goblet
I'm using the Catch and my observations are
- Get the ER you need first. Which means if you can get it from Substats, then you can run ATK Sands and Electro Goblet.
- If you can't, then use ER Sands. You can then use ATK Goblet.
- I used Raiden with ATK Sands and Goblet before, but only had 212% ER, and I can't get good rotations. Now I changed to ER Sands, now with 250% ER, and it still does the same damage but now with better rotation.
- The Catch with ER Sands and ATK Goblet, or ATK Sand and ATK Goblet seems to produce similar damage. But having more ER means better rotation so I just go with ER Sands.
- If you only have either ATK or Electro DMG Bonus, they seems to perform similar. Which means ATK Goblet can be substitute.
Same bruhhhhhhhhhhhh! But in this case its about my xiangling. Had to ditch xingqiu because i need er sands for my xiangling otherwise the rotation will not be smooth
Yeah. I used have her use atk% sands and electro dmg goblet because it made her hit harder but I eventually switched to ER and Atk% so that I don't have to generate energy for her. Rotations are so smooth now because of it
please use the optimizer
I think 250++ ER is a must in Raiden shogun
@@Milimilimiw it's a common misconception, you don't need 250 ER for raiden.
1:37 That’s interesting. So Mihoyo can combat the ability to snapshot by making bonuses that don’t snapshot themselves and Vice versa.
fun fact: sara's c6 also doesn't snapshot
@@coffeemug1012 i think most buffs that doesn't show on stat screen like c6 sara and c6 gorou doesn't snapshot
@@coffeemug1012 I knew it did not, what I did not know was that it was not crit dependent. Otherwise people would have been running Beidou Sara. I can’t even begin to imagine the destruction that would have caused.
Honestly in my opinion she is a must pull even for the new players. Back in september theorycrafters didnt recommend her and the community constantly said that she was the weakest archon out of the 3 but for the last 6 months she has been the most important unit on every abyss rotation as of now
Raiden and kazuha are must pulls for sure
I wouldnt use the word must pull to lightly in a gacha game, but she is very useful in teams she works in. She has her own niche she fills and can not be replaced which could be said for other characters.
Actually, KQM and 1010 has always said she was good. Even from the start Raiden National was known to be good. It's all the reactionaries that said she was bad.
@@charliepai5290 Really? I remember 1010 trashing her alongside everyone else when she first dropped
@@XaneKudo See ruclips.net/video/D9EWZQf-K54/видео.html , but even 1010's first raiden video noted that Raiden National was a viable pick despite initial uncertainty. I'll admit that 1010 can be a bit of a doomposter though, his first impressions are pretty off most of the time (but that's not unexpected).
Tell me about this 'Xiangling', I have never heard of her before.
idk i heard she was a good crecent pike carry or something
Another place you can invest in Raiden National is leveling XL to 90/90, since you trigger so many overloads per rotation, quite a decent and guaranteed damage increase
Does XL do mostly overload damage in Rational? If so, could we build a full EM XL?
@@thesorceryking she also does vaporize, and yes she scales off of EM, even her ascension stat is EM
I used crimson witch. The 40% increase in overload is insane.
Is it better than eosv?
@@neuldjaan2655 dmg wise yeah. But outside raiden national team xiangling will face er issues. So esof is overall better.
@@neuldjaan2655 dmg wise only since crimson boost pyro and reaction dmg. So it is a good option for raiden national team as you hv overload & vaporise. Non-national team usually only hv 1 reaction which makes emblem set better
So if I’m only going to play Raiden National I should use crimson witch?
@@justaweeb14688 use anything you want. The team is already broken, does a lot of damage. As long as you are comfortable with the rotation and the set you use has good stats.
Another downside to Raiden National is it takes 3 of the best supports in the game, 4 if we're counting shogun plus it takes XQ who is literally a foundation of pyro vape teams. But other than that this team slaps.
I agree. Hope Ayato could perhaps or "somehow" bring solution to this. Though, Kokomi does wonders as well.
I've gotten enough units that actively shy away from bennett. Rolling for Raiden was exactly what I needed for a simple national team
Basically put all good characters in a team to make a great team xd
Thats why if you doesn't have enough team raiden national is not worth, but i think most meta player already have a team that doesn't even need bennet, xq, xl for example like ayaka/ganyu freeze, xiao, itto, eula
Xingqiu is why I think Childe is S-tier. Maybe Ayato, too, if he fulfils the same role of enabler like Childe.
Thank You so much for making a very detailed video ☺, I had been searching for a proper guide for Raiden National team.
Raiden was a game changer for my account. There hasn't been a single abyss I haven't been able to 36* since then. So easy to optimize for low spenders/f2p. The game gives you her best 4* weapon for free. Can't really imagine the meta shifting to Raiden nat ever being bad.
@qtieclyde the catch
Truly the best team comp so far. Did not regret pulling for Raiden. I switched the Xingqiu in Raiden National with Kazuha bcs I need him for Hutao on the second team, still works extremely well, easy 36* as always.
Pro tip: Don't build too much EM for xiangling in this comp. Focus more on crit and attack. I also recommend wavebreaker's fin for Xiangling.
Finally went around to using this team and my altered Morgana (Kokomi, Kazuha, Rosaria, and Ganyu) for this abyss and it was so easy. My potato laptop always gave me trouble even in Floor 11 but it was so easy with these teams. I was doing Floor 12 last night with these teams too but didn't finish bc the game crashed 😂 After uni later I'll do it again ahahaha
Someone else who plays my type of freeze. That team is so comfortable
man we so relatable
Haha gl
Since your laptop is potato I can see why you need kokomi. But hey, whatever floats your boat.
@@Lilliana1 Kindly stfu. They didn't roll Kokomi with your primogems
Bennet should be ran with high base atk weapons such as aquilla favonia or the prototype rancour. Normal Bennets should have around 200 er and with raiden that means 100% burst up time for bennet so there is no need to use an er weapon on bennet.
ER > damage
@@swisherrrr dmg > er
This is valid. Mine is at 200% ER and an Aquila. 100% uptime and higher damage boost it is.
Mine has 220% ER with an ER - Sands and with a Skyward Blade could even have 270% ER. Almost more than my Raiden. But I only put so much ER on him outside of Raiden teams. Than I can get his Q back with 1 E in a rotation.
With Raiden I use my Mistsplitter because it has 675 base damage instead of the 600 from Skyward.
Benneth attack buff depends ONLY on the base attack of the sword, so always Base Dmg>ANYTHING ELSE
But 200% er is almost mandatory to mantain uptime
With 200% ER you may be fine in overworld against many enemies that drop a lot of particles. But in Spiral Abyss you will run painfully oom in floor 12 way too often.
I have an Engulfing Lighting and run my Raiden at 270% ER most of the time.
It isn't just comfortable to use but gives me the highest damage output with my current sets even though I have Attack sands with comparable substats. I am also using Genshin Optimizer frequently to find the best builds.
I think this is not the right rotation....theres no point in using xingqiu after benneth and xiangling, he doesnt even snapshot, plus you get lot less benneth's burst duration for your Raiden plus your Xingqiu burst duration is long way to expire after Raiden Q infusion duration is over. I would say Raiden E to Xingqiu E Q to Benneth Q E to Xiangling Q E to Raiden Q is much more optimised gameplay.
Yeah and if it’s c6 Xinqui then Q into E
@@caseyimiller You can do that too, but make sure to catch the particles for Xingqiu after E.
it's actually correct because xiangling applying pyro followed by xingqiu (buffed by bennett) vaping both his E hits is a big chunk of damage. See 3:12 where XQ's two E hits do 62k and 71k respectively. And since he doesn't snapshot, you can only maximize his damage while you have bennett's buff whereas xiangling's damage stays constant throughout the rotation.
@@nf7694 Doing one big vape with Xingqiu doesn't mean the whole team dps is huge. You can also vape for big numbers with Benneth Q after Xingqiu E Q if your benneth is built strong. You lose a lot of Benneth's ult duration for your Raiden in this rotation, and Raiden's dmg is not to be underestimated. Also, with the rotation I explained, Xiangling is able to vape right from the start of her ult becuz of Xingqiu hydro application as opposed to going for one big vape with Xingqiu. I have tested both rotations significantly and I have found the one I suggested to be more optimal and higher dps overall.
@@nf7694 the xingqiu kick its not worth it, that is why in c6 the sacrificial sword is not even top 5 for him and you can look the greyhounds sheets, xingqiu's q is always before bennet's q
National raiden is something I almost completely forgot about. Which is perfect, because I have all 4 characters built already. And I'm already set satisfied with Yae/Sara or Fischl/Zhongli/Albedo to clear the wolf in abyss on 2nd half. Electro Abyss supremacy here I come
Thanks for going into specifics for Xingqiu and Xiangling build specific for this team comp!
0:48 "Overload actually contributes a significant amount of damage and it contributes a lot of damage"
Me: 🤔 I see
i didn't catch that the first time 🤣
Good guide, and it's definitely worth repeating what TenTen said: use the Genshin optimizer! Especially for Raiden, who scales on 4 different stats (ATK%/CR/CD/ER) and has a complex kit, sometimes the best build is not the immediately obvious "big CV pieces hurr durr".
It's funny that when this Abyss cycle came out, some people's reaction to Wolflord was "oh this is a big nerf to Rational, you can't run Rational on bottom half anymore because you need Geo". But they seriously underestimate Rational's damage output. Rational can skip the Wolflord's shield phase entirely by lining up its burst window with the Wolflord's DPS window. Here's a demonstration with my own Rational team (F2P, C0 Raiden):
ruclips.net/video/u8OQX0Axflc/видео.html
yep lmao just found out that my atk sands is better than my er sands despite having lower CV for my raiden through the optimizer. Highly recommend using it.
What do you select in Genshin Optimizer when building Raiden? I usually go for Burst Musou damage, but not sure thats the best
@@ChaosRune I optimize for Burst initial hit damage too since it's the majority of her damage. I set ER >= 260% because I like high ER but that's just me.
I will say, having Raiden in national team helps me getting 36 star abyss ever since I got Raiden early
I even clear abyss 36* with 4stars only lol
Uhhh, If you use Engulfing Lightning, attack becomes less valuable because that weapon already gives a lot of it.
You should really consider swapping to an electro goblet or switching your sands to ER because EL can make use of ER better than other weapons.
he uses GO this was most likely the build that was spat out, most likely he has trash emblem headpiece or electro goblets so this is better for him
@@coffeemug1012 While what you say is probably true, the issue is the reasoning he gave was flat out incorrect. One look at the tooltip of EL will tell you this.
I agree putting Electro goblet instead of atk goblet to raiden only if she has the hyper carry team, cause that team comp gives her so much atk boost than raiden national team.
thats what im thinking as well. its kinda questionable that he uses atk sands AND atk goblet when he uses EL on raiden. That is wayyy too much atk. Also surprisingly theres a lot of info that is just wrong in this vid, 200 er on raiden is actually not enuf for her to consistently get her burst back up. the recommended amount (based on my experience and so far many others as well) is around 230 - 250. I must say overall this is not tentens best vid but still appreciate his content anyways.
I agree on this one. As much as i respect tenten since he's a very good theory crafter, he's just completely incorrect with this one. Because EL passive is basically er = atk%. So you better go er sands. And raiden is basically er = electro dmg%. So raiden with EL + atk% sands is just that. While raiden with EL + er sands = extra Atk% + extra electro dmg %
Wait did 1010 just put Xiangling in the front and give her bold outline while Raiden stuck behind text
Yes
If the boss enemy move around alot i use dragonbane on xiangling. That way you get to use both her and raiden as duo sub dps. So go raiden E, bennet EQ, xingxiu EQ, xiangling EQ do ur dmg till pyronado gone. Then reapply raiden E bennet EQ, xingxiu EQ, into raiden Q. It will give higher resolve to raiden and you will be more flexible in movement instead of being tied to bennet circle
This are the kind of videos that I love from RUclips. Keep like this man
I honestly can't fathom how ~200 er on raiden is enough. That's low and your rotation is gimped. Unless you're doing your rational test runs on a bunch of enemies or golems coz they give crap ton particles making u think ER is okay at ~200. We should always aim around 250er for our raiden
I have 225ER and my raiden burst is always 3/4 full at the end of my rotation
@@Ben-vg6ox that's fair. Higher than 1010's rec 200 so u got a bit more there, tho, if you're 3/4 full after a rotation on pma, it is absolutely okay. But, if 3/4 full after a rotation on waves of enemies, then surely that's not desirable
I've found it similar. I've been staying with 230 er on a homa until I got my EL, and the difference is very noticable. 250+ is the way, at least for me.
@@riskiriyadi1446 yess! Always go for >250, it's waay more comfortable. 200er is only viable for whales with R5EL coz of how that crazy weapon works
I am used to 270% ER. In overworld this is overkill. But Spiral Abyss so often literally starves you off particles with single target enemies and stuff.
And sometimes you don't get to do her full burst.
Because either the enemy is dead too soon or your own health bar goes critical. And since Raidens damage scales well with ER there is no loss right there. In fact. With my current artifacts the highest damage I can get is with an ER sands.
2:06 amazing transition
If you already have enough damage, you can always run higher ER to make sure your rotation flow not easily interrupted in abyss (example, enemy dies / stage cleared before Raiden finish her burst)
Raiden min 220 ER
Xiangling min 215 ER
Xingqiu min 200 ER (C6, 220-240 pre C6)
Benny just put your highest ER Noblesee
Xingqui dosent need tht much er with sac sword and xiangling 190-200 is enough to get her burst on cd
I was blessed with a EM sands and it had both crit stats. Now the optimizer LOVES that hourglass on Xiangling
The only unfortunate thing about this team is that you can't get 2 of the catch
Isnt the rotation Raiden E - XQ ult - Bennet E Q (for extra vaporize) - Xiangling E Q - XQ E - Raiden Q. I heard its like this so Raiden can take more time standing on Bennet's ult since she doesn't snapshot.
Ah yes,i remembered this guy is underrating raiden when she first appeared
I use wavebreaker's fin on xiangling because my hu tao has the dragons bane.
Funny enough but I played the same chamber (pma) with rational and fischl national just to get a slight better result with fischl (C0 Raiden lvl 81/90, 9 Burst, Fischl lvl 70 C6). Which was very surprising. Same team concept, always strong!
expectation : raiden team
reality : xiangling team variant
More like Bennett team. Poor Xiangling can barely function without him.
imo it is better to use Xingqiu second in your rotation unless you have E lvl 13 or R5/R1 4*/5*. You will be back with up to use E and let Raiden covers whole bennett burst. It is just smoother rotation and same output. Furthermore, according to my testing, you can squeeze more damage for Xingqiu and Xiangling by lowering their ER and increasing ER on Raiden, you won't loss much but all team members benefit from that.
You brought interesting point with dragon's bane EM and overload. I am not sure tho if it can outperforms R5 wavebreaker or R1 Homa.
Lastly, Raiden national is really interesting comp, but if you can run Raiden Hypercarry it is besically better because it frees xingqiu and xiangling, and it can finish most chambers faster.
Y'all can enjoy Raiden national... now where are my international users ?
Run wavebreaker at r5 its stronger than homa and as strong as grass cutter
@@LightningMcqueef. i do not think you meant to reply to me
@@thebrigade7684 oh shit mb lol
Fellow international enjoyer *gigachad music starts*
tenten: use lion roar...
me who been playing since day 1 and still have no lion roar: interesting.
Raiden national is my favorite team to play as a player with heavy skill issues who only play for gacha. I rolled raiden for waifu reasons but i love raiden national so much I crowned her and never gets out of emblem domain now.
Get your "Xiangling timestamp" ticket here!!!
done timestamping (took me 30 mins)
@@woof815 touch some grass lol
@@DangoShogun didn't know your mother is a grass
@@woof815 you drop this 👑
@@danielvinceneo3556 yours too king 👑
1 thing: due to XQ not snapshotting with his burst you can actually do Raiden E, Xingqiu E,Q, (E) Bennett Q, NA1 E, Xangling Q, E. But this only really matters if you have decent 4p NO artifacts on him which most people don't
Yes, also xinqiu burst has a longer duration than the others, meaning that starting the rotation with him allows you to keep the other bursts for more time
for some reason i was expecting to be underwhelmed by raiden national, but it totally blew me out of the water when i pulled raiden. seriously insane, even my super high investment ayaka freeze team can't clear content nearly as fast
all it takes is all your meta-defining supports and a single target meat sponge chamber. what a deal!
@@MegaSJ idk if ur being sarcastic, but it kinda is for me. i was already using national team variations before i pulled raiden so they were all pre-built, and i'm not using any other teams that require those supports very often either. i main ayaka eula & xiao, so none of them need bennett xingqiu or xiangling.
Same situation, but in my case it was almost as high dmg as my ayaka freeze which was really invested. That was before my c2 raiden tho. Now she literally obliterates anything even easier.
Let's be honest...National team is honestly just Bennett + Xiangling, haha. In the abyss, depending on the situation, I use *Archon National* (Zhongli, Raiden, Bennett and Xiangling), it's quite a broken team.
When I have to use Hu Tao with Zhongli and Xingqiu, I basically swap the slot with Diona and it becomes (Diona, Raiden, Bennett and Xiangling). I've 36 starred the abyss like this so I came to the conclusion that the national comp's two must use characters are Bennett and Xiangling, everyone else can be swapped out to cater for what you have, which is great. *Archon National* is so much fun, I recommend anyone to try it if you have the characters xD.
Petrification makees up for the overload reaction of knocking enemies back and that 20% res shred from Zhongli is especially welcomed by C0 Raiden.
🌸😹It is quite powerful, but a team I shall not ever make regularly use of, for it is too meta and I prefer out of the box options!😹🌸
I thought ER sands outscales att sands with EL?
The mini Venti explaining stuff stole my heart
I would LOVE a text/image version of the artifact workflow you talked about.
So... all the point of this video is how to build your xiangling and how to choose her the best team depending the conditions to maximise your damage. The damage of your entire account. Cause you know it's xiangling impact
i used xiangling, sucrose, raiden, bennet so basically an overload raiden team since i have to pair xingqiu with hutao on team 2, and i cleared the new abyss 12-1-1 faster than my childe taser team eventhough i pair childe with beidou or fischl, and also my overload raiden has faster team energy regen so faster rotation so its super comfortable to play, totally recommended
cant wait to see ayato whipping up new meta teams with his burst aoe, perhaps freeing up xingqiu and become a core member of some new taser comp
I only have Xiangling and Raiden but just these two work soo well together. I also have Jean in my team and I just love using Jean with these two, I rarely need food. Sometimes I switch Jean with Sayu cause I love her playstyle so much and it is fun swirling electro and pyro around whilst rolling into enemies. The fourth character is not really set in my team, sometimes I use Succrose, she keeps all the enemies in one place or Child for the Hydro application or his burst.
Nevertheless I love Xianling and Raiden together, they are always in my team and sometimes having just them is Chef kiss.
Thank you for using Kronii's BGM in this video!!
I don't know what you'd ever run Rational when Raiden Hypercarry has close to the same single target, blows it completely out the water in AoE (even at C0!) in both raw numbers AND grouping, and frees up XQ for your second team.
only requires bennet, a c6 sara, and a kazuha...
this team is good because it's only requires 1 5* character. Raiden hypercarry has way higher constellation requirements from the supports and requires another 5* unit that wasn't popular at all during his launch.
@@changen4125 it's impressive how you managed to fit 3 misconceptions in such a short comment, i highly suggest reading her kqm guide if you actually wanna know more about that team.
@@changen4125 It does not require Sara, or Kazuha. Lisa for def shred, Sucrose for VV role consolidation, Mona for Omen, or even ToM Kokomi are all good TTDS holders as a C6 Sara substitute. Jean for Sunfire combo and Hakushin Sucrose are both really close to Kazuha since Raiden is already saturated with the damage bonus that Kazuha provides. Every permutation of characters I listed blows Rational out of the water for AoE, stray unvaped XL hits cannot compete with VV+2 extra Raiden buffs.
@@mia_2043 Running a variant with Lisa and Sucrose is copium as fuck compared to the poster team with C6 sara and Kazuha
@@Pro-Hunter You dont say? But it is viable because there is only one of each you mentioned. Are you telling me Kazuha c6r5 is better than Kazuha c0 now?
Also running Raiden hyper with Fischl is just so good because the rotation is so smooth.
@tenten I think it would be nice if you went over how to use genshin optimizer, such as when calculating builds, do we go off initial burst damage when engulfing lighting passive is active? or not active? because my builds change depending on that it seems.
I still remember how Raiden got downplayed and said she won’t fit in Raiden National, how ironic.
I remember a stupid RUclipsr said this team's weaker than Kazuha national LMAO
Ty for mentioning Xingqiu's constellations. I feel like everyone who recommends drastically dropping XQ's ER in this comp has a C6 XQ. Meanwhile, my C5 XQ still needs a sac sword to not require extra energy funneling.
you'll be able to get your c6 xq in the new update!
The best part is that I can build 3/4 from one domain and strongbox for 4/4
Now I'm tempted to pull for Raiden, National team or with Eula... looks like she has really good synergy with many characters.
While the video is good and has overall well thought out, many terms you used eg. 'Snappshottable' as well as the N-codes require existing in depth knowledge of genshin combat mechanics and thus new players are unlikely to be able to understand your guides. Maybe a video explaining these terms in depth could help? Thanks for the guide tho, rlly helped alot
Honestly video was really usefull! Can you make next time morgana guide for Ganyu and Ayaka?
I've 130 ER C6 Xingqiu
Using lion roar in Raiden National messes up the rotation. Xq doesn't gets his Ult back. My 180-190er XL doesn't get her ult back too. Whereas it's not the case if I use sac sword
Also my Raiden has 240Er with Engulfing Lightning
And 270er with Catch
I have 180-200 ER XIngqiu using Lion's Roar and its more than enough. I find that Sac Sword delays my rotation for 1-3 secs so I dropped it.
180 ER for Xiangling doesn't work for me as well, I have 200 ER with her and it's much smoother imo. I only go lower than 200 ER if Bennett has favonius sword.
I got C5 xingqiu, 160 ER lion, and i don't get it back against these enemies that don't drop energy, but against others it's perfect
@@kanashiiinu9124 ya using sac sword will delay the Bennet ult duration for Raiden to use her Ultimate. That's why Im using atk sands & electro goblet for my EL Raiden
@Félix yeah for catch I used Er Sands. For EL I used attack Sands. You can check my channel btw for the stats / artifacts
the problem will be is exchanging those artifacts if im gonna switch back again to the other national team..... demn when will hoyoverse make those QoL of saving recent artifacts from a certain char and easily switch back again without getting lost from your artifact list ;_; ..,
Because players tend to equip all their characters they want to play, if we can set a whole team in seconds, we will tend not to farm more. So they will loose money/our time spent in game if they put any QOL change about artifacts presets. It's sad.
easy solution : use an artifact optimizer and save each configuration of your 2 abyss teams"
Honestly is annoying, hoyoverse needs to implement artifacts presets
i would argue er sands is better overall as you can boost attack and also electro damage when you use er sands while atk sands just boosts attack
This video just appeared in my recommended again and got me thinking now that Yelan is a thing.
I have a spare Elegy for the End which would go incredibly well with that this team does (100 EM for everyone, and since EM doens't snapshot it is fine to use after Xiangling's Burst). The only drawback I can think of is that Xingqiu with Lion's Roar would be doing more personal damage, but then again Yelan would give Raiden some more elemental damage as well.
Damn, returned to Genshin after a long break for Fontaine only to end up learning I've been using the Raiden national entirely wrong.
The sole fact that my op ayaka can be easily outclassed by this build that i can also do
Wow
i still advocate for more er than damage -oriented stat honestly. Its no fun waiting for my ult while time is ticking down.
Why Xiangling before Xingqiu, her burst lasts for less time
He says one thing and does another (does burst > skill and says skill>burst)
Only matter for c6 xl because guoba can snapshot it, and yeah, you should start with xq burst, even vefore bennett, but only if you manage to weave in normal attacks during your rotation to maximize his burst damage.
Genshin optimizer does not have shenhe, yunjin and yae. Sadge
Fr, why 😭
Personally, I just swap Xiangling for Kazuha since it's more fun and makes Raiden do most of the damage. It is still as good and do the job. I can't tell exactly which is stronger and helped me more in the abyss, it's just that the Kazuha version suited me better.
Am I missing something, or did that ruin guard at 3:14 have like a crap ton of HP
Enkanomiya event keeps enemies alive unless you use Bokuso Box
You should always use Sac Sword on Xingqiu regardless, with Emblem you're getting more bonus the more ER ya got.
Noble award for best xiangling salesman 2k22 (tentengames)
Damn that 34% crit rate Xiangling though.
Because EM is priority for that particular build
@@acanthafiore But still. If you don't crit then that's a rip
Not a huge loss for the National Raiden team that's emphasizing more on maximizing all the reaction dmg including overload which only scales from em.
@@acanthafiore what. It doesn't matter. If it doesn't crit then your damage is doodoo.
Also Vaporize can crit which most of you damage comes from.
@@acanthafiore The only thing that doesn't crit is overload. And that trade-off is not worth it for xiangling
its 2023 and Genshin is in v3.5. This video helped me beat Spiral Abyss Floor 12-3-1 quick enough to FINALLY BEAT THE FUCKING WENUT in 12-3-2
ten ten can you please say EMOTIONAL DAMAGE
I think a better rotation is Raiden E -> Xingqiu QEE -> Bennett EQ -> Xiangling QE -> Raiden Q. The reason behind this is so Raiden can get more Bennett burst up time
Does Engulfing Lightning catapult ER sands ahead of ATK sands? The weapon passive gives +14.5 ATK when using a fully upgraded ER sands. Raiden's A4 talent also gives 20.7% Electro damage when using ER sands. Of course, the extra ER also makes rotations more comfy, which shouldn't be discounted since recent Abyss trends towards enemies that don't drop as many HP particles + enemies that are highly mobile and tend to move out of melee range. Taken together, it was my understanding that ER sands is superior if Raiden is wielding Engulfing Lightning.
yeah that's what it says on the keqingmains Raiden guide. That ER sands will be better when used with Engulfing Lightning, and will perform even better when used with ATK% buffs from Bennet or Sara.
You'll be living in the emblem domain if you build this team basically
5:39 "Lets me to run a dramatically better circlet" shows an CDMG emblem hat with 16.7% crit rate kekw
I used raiden national since 2.1, no abyss floor can stop this team until now.
It's just a matter of time mihoyong nerf this team especially for f2p
They dont do nerf, instead they do powercreep. But I doubt raiden can be powercrept, she's almost like a perfect unit.
People sleep on Kitain Cross Spear.
That weapon slaps on XL and helps a lot with the energy problems. With a little adjustment in rotation your XL will always have the pyronado available without the need for energy funnelling, and since it have EM stats works really well in Rational.
2:47 the moment my head start spinning
My Xiangling only has 150% ER in Raiden National and she's doing just fine. Same goes for my 210% ER Raiden
my xiangling has 170% er and when i finish my rotation she still only gets 60% of her burst so i have to funnel more particles for her help
@Félix i test the team on the big lizard, my bennet has 250 er, xq has 200, and raiden has 250... i can still get xiangling burst before cooldown ends but its kinda inconvenient having to funnel more particles
@Félix true true goodluck on your artifacts
i just started to play genshin, n try to find some reference, n i just love the way u explain everything ..
I really don't know about you guys, maybe I am just shit but me with Raiden 250 ER still think Xiangling need around 220 ER and Xingqiu around 190-200 ER for smooth rotation.
This team is so satisfying, besides the fact it's stupidly strong. I will always use Rational when I can tbh.
If i already have maxed sac sword on my xingqiu and maxed fav lance on my xiangling should I still switch to lion's roar and dragons bane? That would consume two max weapons worth of resin and exp ores. Would it significantly increase my damage or it is more worth it to just stick to my current build??? PLEASEEEE HELPPP!!!
PLEASSE ANSWER ME 🙏🙏🙏
am I the only one who notice that lion's roar on Xingqiu in this team doesnt proc consistently??
Please check this. ER sand with A4 + sets artifact give more electro dmg than running electro sand. Because of that artifact set up on her could be ER ATK CD/CR
with bennett Elec Goblet > ATK Goblet even with high ER. You can use optimizer to find the best for you.
3x 4pc emblem is the only thing stopping me from running this team. Just 1 good full 4pc of any set is already hell enough
9:40 funny how he says that you should give Xiangling EM pieces, but Raiden has the highest EM pieces here
I have a lot of work to do to build Raiden national especially since I just acquired Raiden, and had some bad luck with her last rerun. Also I have dragons vane and lions roar on around r3 just not leveled😁
2:06 nice transition
Hello~ I need some help here :D
What if I pulled Sara c2 while pulling for Raiden, and now I have Raiden and Sara. Which Character should I swap out of the National Team if I want to play Raiden + Sara on the Same team?
Should I Keep Xinqiu and Xianling?
Should I Keep Bennet + Sara for Buff and only pick one of Xinqiu or Xianling?
Should I pick a different character altogether?
What would be the best option in this particular scenario.
(I know Raiden National is so good, but I like Sara and I want to make her work with my Raiden ;) )
Any feedback is appreciated!
probably raiden sara bennet and kazuha or venti or sucrose
im pretty late but im sure you just wanna keep bennett and xiangling together, so running sara and raiden with those two should be good. if you some how get a c6 sara your raiden will be omega buff. other team comps ive seen are what the guy above me mentioned with bennett and any anemo support, which jean also fits in for sunfire synergy,