Oh dear lord, i died a bit inside when you started talking about the patch. That timing would've been funny if it wasnt fucking tragic... Having a blast watching the megabase come together though, as always your editing makes it thoroughly entertaining!
Knowing Z there was a part of me going "he's gonna do it the madman, he's gonna tear the whole base down and rebuild it, isn't he?" I'm glad he decided to not go that route.
@@Deneb626 with factorio mega mods... may the Heavens be with him... tho... he did do recussion recussion recussion... hmm... i guess he's throwing that down the road...
Rough timing on the 0.6 update :( I definitely think you made the right call sticking with 0.5 though, starting from square 1 after building the entire megabase would've been a tragedy
@@half_pixel yeah i was using his blueprint book built the entire starter base in 0.6 then realized it doesnt work so i switched back to 0.5 and still some of the starter base isnt working properly thinking it might be the verison im on
@@bengrimes92 could be! Although if it's your first time playing Space Exploration I'd really recommend trying to build stuff yourself before going for blueprints
@@Zisteau im pretty sure its mostly for the shield projectors so we should probably keep using it lol i dont know how the asteroids are coded but they may not block them on ships or something without?
I feel you with that 0.6 update. Thankfully I finished just before it so I don't need to worry, but it would be close to a nightmare if I had to go through redesigning so much.
Same, had just put about 120 h and got energy science 1 done and the update dropped. Then my whole base had a blackout and i didnt really like it anyway so i started over, but that was kinda difficult. Now im playing SE+K2 on 0.6 and K2 does add some fun things but it was kinda difficult as a choice.
The three steps are: 1. You build the base to build the base to build the megabase 2. You build the base to build the megabase 3. You build the megabase Simple!
ive been watching your factorio content for yeaaaaars, i have never bought the game but i think i might now. my favourite series was the meiosis one, and it was the one which introduced me to factorio, thanks for all the great content Z.
These factorio videos make my day better every time I watch them. Thanks so much for making them. I started playing space exploration (very casually) because of this series and have been having a blast. Looking forwards to the next one.
I always laugh and learn while watching your videos Zisteau. I will definitely be using your “three” step process in my future Factorio games as well as IRL.
Ouccchhhhh, piece by piece the beautiful design got blotted out..... If you're sticking to 0.5, it'd be beautiful to get to see like a 15 minute video just following different raw resources in to the megabase, through processing and out as finished products - really get a feel for the scale and design of the factory lines!
When you opened the change log I was like, "oh no..." And then it only got worse. I'm glad you're not updating and I'm glad I didn't get far in my playthrough!
I don't play Factorio, but I continue to enjoy your serieses of it and be suitably impressed. It's great to watch all this come together. Can't wait to see it in action!
Man, those are the simplest three steps I've ever seen! Awesome as always, and yeah, seeing how much a mess that patch would do, oof. My brother and I are playing through this at the moment, but the update dropped just when we reached the point where the changes mattered. Either or always looking forward to more!
Been watching your content for years grew up watching your minecrack and terraria game plays and now get to watch you play my new favourite game! Still got your black sweater hanging up in my closet! Thanks for all the entertainment over the years man
Hope you're not feeling too bad about sticking to 0.5 Zisteau, especially on this scale of base the changes are just too large to adjust your setup to deal with.
I started in 0.6 like a week and a half ago or so and looked about for some base inspirations. Actually see what I am getting into to be able to be prepared. Even though you are playing 0.5 it was a huge help. I modified your starter bp for 0.6. next to nothing was changed except replacing production and high tech science with the rocket science. I didn't bother changing out the requester chests though because I'm being lazy. When I actually start over and use the BP I'll either hand feed or figure something out.
Good choice, I make a point of never updating mods mid-playthrough, unless I encounter a bug that stops the game somehow. The main reason to do updates as quickly as possible is security, and that's not relevant for factorio mods.
You could have used the same blockspace for the trains that you use the for 2-4 trains. Just make the first three signals after a junction chain signals and you have the same effect as placing it 24 wagon lengths apart.
Wouldn't it be easier to just have the robots rip up the base you were going to build and start a new design from scratch? Wait, that's not how Zisteau thinks! Good call Zisteau, I like seeing you stick to the overcomplicated megabase you committed to building! Of course, that does mean you have to work all of the kinks out of it, too! Well, every solution creates new problems to overcome! 😊👍
@@AnotherDuck Ah, but you you forget Step 3.2: The voice in your head saying "I don't need it" gets quieter and quieter until finally you scream out loud "I NEEEED IIIT"
@@Shadowhawkdark Nah, that's for a potential next playthrough. Especially as with that many changes, there are likely to be bugs and imbalances that will need fixes later on anyway, so it's better to wait for them as well.
0.6 is a great update for anyone starting a new save, or even anyone who just hadn't gotten into space yet. It is NOT a good update for anyone who has put any significant time into a save. You made the correct decision. I am curious about the core mining dislike though; do you just dislike the concept of core mining? The new core mining is completely different from the old one, all they share is the name.
Well you see, underneath all that water is land and "island" is defined as land which is fully surrounded by water and when you think about it space is a kind of water since we use ships to navigate it so by the definition of island the entire planet is in fact the island.
The update happened to me and it took me a number of weeks to rebuild it and start making progress again. I was basically just starting my trips to get the last unique resource and 💥
Three easy steps: 1. Prepare half of year to spend on this easy task 2. Design everything and place 3. Find new update that change everthing you've done Repeat. :-)
The scale of this is amazing :D Just a hint: you can make blueprints from map screen and/or navigation view. Is a bit faster than walking both ways all the time :)
I had just got to the spaceship victory when 0.5 dropped. So I started a K2SE with the new versions. The space elevator really changed up the logistics strategy feeding Norbit. I wish you'd restarted with the new version. I think the playthrough would age better and get more long term views on the new version. Maybe you could dramatize a calamity on Nauvis and abandon the entire planet and rebate somewhere else?
Just let this mega base stockpile the resources to get into the next phase of mod content and have enough left over to redesign it when you feel like updating it \ making a new base.
honestly your "starter base" is big enough this megabase is huge over kill not only that but later on you will unlock techs that make building this mega base way better and more efficient
As one who lived through the 0.5->0.6 retrofit in his own 1500-hour invested world I'll just say that it's better to stick to 0.5 at Zisteau's stage of his game unless he's a masochist who enjoys rebuilding about 80% of his megabase. Rebuilding in Factorio is nothing more than a walk of shame and a waste of time at this magnitude.
@18:30 I know your pain. I've spent the better part of two weeks "updating" all 6 of my bases to work with the SE update. Almost trashed a 1500-hour save game to start over and not hassle with the retrofitting.
Im playing too with patch 0.6 and i decided build whole base by using only cargo rockets. Every production unit has own reactor, and other stuff. May be it can helps you
I started watching this series recently thinking it would be updated for 0.6. Too bad you are not willing to update and redesign, I was enjoying the series immensely (your production is top-notch), though I understand, considering how much time you invested in designing everything. Since I'm currently on a 0.6 playthrough, I'm not interested in watching 'old' stuff. Too much has changed. Have fun everybody.
whenever I play something modded I never upgrade unless it fixes issues I was experiencing. it always messes things up and it would mean redoing the entire step 3 part of your simple and easy 3 step plan
I started a new playthrough just after the patch (without knowing), so I didn't experience that issue but I understood what was happening when the patch was brought up. Yikes...
Ok, bought Factorio. Step 0.002 check. Download the mods. Step 0.05 check. Alright, now how to crash land on an alien planet? Steps 0.051 to 0.099 must be some real doozies. 🤔
wow I absolutely would have stopped playing this game if it were on console and I was forced to use an update that just rendered my entire base obsolete. That is the folly of playing on these unfinished games/mods
....who wants to bet he puts another megabase in space connected via elevator edit after watching: oops. space elevator is pretty neat tho, to my knowlege the space science is also easier to make in the update but not certian.
Step 0.0001 earn money to buy computer Step 0.00001 get born Step 0.000001 get conceived Step 0.0000001 start evolving from singular cells Step 0.00000001 form a matter ball out of gas Step 0.000000001 start with a big bang.
Oh dear lord, i died a bit inside when you started talking about the patch. That timing would've been funny if it wasnt fucking tragic...
Having a blast watching the megabase come together though, as always your editing makes it thoroughly entertaining!
its making things easier, which is not the zisteau way!
Knowing Z there was a part of me going "he's gonna do it the madman, he's gonna tear the whole base down and rebuild it, isn't he?"
I'm glad he decided to not go that route.
@@Deneb626 with factorio mega mods... may the Heavens be with him... tho... he did do recussion recussion recussion... hmm...
i guess he's throwing that down the road...
Rough timing on the 0.6 update :( I definitely think you made the right call sticking with 0.5 though, starting from square 1 after building the entire megabase would've been a tragedy
what version is he playing on exactly?
@@bengrimes92 he's on 0.5, where the most recent version is 0.6
@@half_pixel yeah i was using his blueprint book built the entire starter base in 0.6 then realized it doesnt work so i switched back to 0.5 and still some of the starter base isnt working properly thinking it might be the verison im on
@@bengrimes92 could be! Although if it's your first time playing Space Exploration I'd really recommend trying to build stuff yourself before going for blueprints
@@half_pixel yeah it is my first time but im in too deep lol
re: spitters attacking walls
the combat overhaul mod that's usually paired with SE causes walls to block projectiles
Ah that makes sense.
@@Zisteau im pretty sure its mostly for the shield projectors so we should probably keep using it lol i dont know how the asteroids are coded but they may not block them on ships or something without?
Yeah, try a shield?
@@Zisteau hey zisteau i think you might have a problem with bots trying to copy your likeness for scams
I feel you with that 0.6 update. Thankfully I finished just before it so I don't need to worry, but it would be close to a nightmare if I had to go through redesigning so much.
Same, had just put about 120 h and got energy science 1 done and the update dropped. Then my whole base had a blackout and i didnt really like it anyway so i started over, but that was kinda difficult.
Now im playing SE+K2 on 0.6 and K2 does add some fun things but it was kinda difficult as a choice.
something tells me there are more than three steps, and that they are far from easy
3 easy steps (and 587 very difficult ones)!
The three steps are:
1. You build the base to build the base to build the megabase
2. You build the base to build the megabase
3. You build the megabase
Simple!
Ah, I see you are a connoisseur of megabases.
@@Zisteau its just a fractal design metodology. Keep It Simple and Stupid. You can read about that in proffesional books.
@@Zisteau Well, between your many Factorio bases and heck, even some of your minecraft bases, how could I not be a connoisseur of such megabases?
ive been watching your factorio content for yeaaaaars, i have never bought the game but i think i might now. my favourite series was the meiosis one, and it was the one which introduced me to factorio, thanks for all the great content Z.
Man, I can never not appreciate and love your editing and sense of humor, Zisteau :) never fail to be quality content.
These factorio videos make my day better every time I watch them. Thanks so much for making them. I started playing space exploration (very casually) because of this series and have been having a blast. Looking forwards to the next one.
I always laugh and learn while watching your videos Zisteau. I will definitely be using your “three” step process in my future Factorio games as well as IRL.
Ouccchhhhh, piece by piece the beautiful design got blotted out.....
If you're sticking to 0.5, it'd be beautiful to get to see like a 15 minute video just following different raw resources in to the megabase, through processing and out as finished products - really get a feel for the scale and design of the factory lines!
When you opened the change log I was like, "oh no..." And then it only got worse. I'm glad you're not updating and I'm glad I didn't get far in my playthrough!
Yay.. more captains log!
I don't play Factorio, but I continue to enjoy your serieses of it and be suitably impressed. It's great to watch all this come together. Can't wait to see it in action!
Man, those are the simplest three steps I've ever seen!
Awesome as always, and yeah, seeing how much a mess that patch would do, oof. My brother and I are playing through this at the moment, but the update dropped just when we reached the point where the changes mattered. Either or always looking forward to more!
Been watching your content for years grew up watching your minecrack and terraria game plays and now get to watch you play my new favourite game! Still got your black sweater hanging up in my closet! Thanks for all the entertainment over the years man
Wow, the store page actually does say that. That's awesome
Hope you're not feeling too bad about sticking to 0.5 Zisteau, especially on this scale of base the changes are just too large to adjust your setup to deal with.
I ve been watching your content since factorio miosis and i love it. Thank you for the entertaining videos for years
Yes! Another awesome video. Really love the editing. Keep it up!
I started in 0.6 like a week and a half ago or so and looked about for some base inspirations. Actually see what I am getting into to be able to be prepared. Even though you are playing 0.5 it was a huge help. I modified your starter bp for 0.6. next to nothing was changed except replacing production and high tech science with the rocket science. I didn't bother changing out the requester chests though because I'm being lazy. When I actually start over and use the BP I'll either hand feed or figure something out.
I think I saw atomic artillery. Great choice. Good work sir.
Oh man, that megabase looks awesome, I can't wait to see it in action!
Good choice, I make a point of never updating mods mid-playthrough, unless I encounter a bug that stops the game somehow. The main reason to do updates as quickly as possible is security, and that's not relevant for factorio mods.
Great job. I am really enjoying these factorio videos
i love your videos! ive kept up with your series and love every episode. keep up the great work!!!!
Gotta love Zisteaus editing!
this is a masterpiece
I LOVE this series! Please don't give up!
You could have used the same blockspace for the trains that you use the for 2-4 trains. Just make the first three signals after a junction chain signals and you have the same effect as placing it 24 wagon lengths apart.
Yea your maze has one wide corridors it needs two wide routes for the spitters, but also if i remember i dont think they ever get in range
Wouldn't it be easier to just have the robots rip up the base you were going to build and start a new design from scratch? Wait, that's not how Zisteau thinks! Good call Zisteau, I like seeing you stick to the overcomplicated megabase you committed to building! Of course, that does mean you have to work all of the kinks out of it, too! Well, every solution creates new problems to overcome! 😊👍
would we be able to be blessed with the blueprint for your megabase? ah just watched the end of the video
The fact that your robots built the base top to bottom in such a clean line… ;-; my robots never listen to me
Love this series keep up good work!
You forgot steps 4-10 where you redesign everything due to the developers reworking the entire game
Step 3.1: Pretend the update doesn't exist.
@@AnotherDuck Ah, but you you forget Step 3.2: The voice in your head saying "I don't need it" gets quieter and quieter until finally you scream out loud "I NEEEED IIIT"
@@Shadowhawkdark Nah, that's for a potential next playthrough. Especially as with that many changes, there are likely to be bugs and imbalances that will need fixes later on anyway, so it's better to wait for them as well.
that's the best video you've ever made, love it
Dude you are funny. Loving this series.
Why did you decide on the massive oil trains instead of a bunch of smaller trains? Just curious
Because of the width of the refining area makes distributing crude easier.
The effort here is amazing I love the content man
0.6 is a great update for anyone starting a new save, or even anyone who just hadn't gotten into space yet. It is NOT a good update for anyone who has put any significant time into a save. You made the correct decision. I am curious about the core mining dislike though; do you just dislike the concept of core mining? The new core mining is completely different from the old one, all they share is the name.
all this time i thought you were on .6 lol
Love it and cant wait for more :D
Can't wait for him to name the planet "The Island".
Well you see, underneath all that water is land and "island" is defined as land which is fully surrounded by water and when you think about it space is a kind of water since we use ships to navigate it so by the definition of island the entire planet is in fact the island.
classic, I feel ya
The update happened to me and it took me a number of weeks to rebuild it and start making progress again. I was basically just starting my trips to get the last unique resource and 💥
Three easy steps:
1. Prepare half of year to spend on this easy task
2. Design everything and place
3. Find new update that change everthing you've done
Repeat. :-)
This video is the embodiment of your teacher saying there's 3 questions... each one having a. B. C. D....
That was very funny to watch. Factorio is my favorite game atm and now I prefer watch this dude over me playing.
I agree, but another factorio player who's great to watch is Michael Hendriks. Check him out.
The scale of this is amazing :D
Just a hint: you can make blueprints from map screen and/or navigation view. Is a bit faster than walking both ways all the time :)
I had just got to the spaceship victory when 0.5 dropped.
So I started a K2SE with the new versions. The space elevator really changed up the logistics strategy feeding Norbit.
I wish you'd restarted with the new version. I think the playthrough would age better and get more long term views on the new version.
Maybe you could dramatize a calamity on Nauvis and abandon the entire planet and rebate somewhere else?
Just let this mega base stockpile the resources to get into the next phase of mod content and have enough left over to redesign it when you feel like updating it \ making a new base.
My heart was breaking with every black line Z drew over the newly built mega base. That patch is rough dudes
Oh man that was amazing
How long did it take you to design that “instant megabase” blueprint
no captain's log to start off?
They were all destroyed last episode.
Im pretty sure he is still hiding one somewhere
honestly your "starter base" is big enough this megabase is huge over kill
not only that but later on you will unlock techs that make building this mega base way better and more efficient
I wonder how much of the patch could be backported without needing the breaking changes
As one who lived through the 0.5->0.6 retrofit in his own 1500-hour invested world I'll just say that it's better to stick to 0.5 at Zisteau's stage of his game unless he's a masochist who enjoys rebuilding about 80% of his megabase. Rebuilding in Factorio is nothing more than a walk of shame and a waste of time at this magnitude.
@18:30 I know your pain. I've spent the better part of two weeks "updating" all 6 of my bases to work with the SE update. Almost trashed a 1500-hour save game to start over and not hassle with the retrofitting.
Im playing too with patch 0.6 and i decided build whole base by using only cargo rockets. Every production unit has own reactor, and other stuff. May be it can helps you
I started watching this series recently thinking it would be updated for 0.6. Too bad you are not willing to update and redesign, I was enjoying the series immensely (your production is top-notch), though I understand, considering how much time you invested in designing everything. Since I'm currently on a 0.6 playthrough, I'm not interested in watching 'old' stuff. Too much has changed. Have fun everybody.
whenever I play something modded I never upgrade unless it fixes issues I was experiencing. it always messes things up
and it would mean redoing the entire step 3 part of your simple and easy 3 step plan
Astonishing
the update did a little trolling
When I see 1K or 5K science per minute I've always wondered - Which schience? Red? Blue? Purple? White? Which one is it?
Yeah, 0.6 would mess up everything, also no requester chests nor beacons until space research.
Alternate episode title: This is getting a little silly
Ziiisteauuuu!!
Zisteau, I tried to follow your 3 easy steps but I got stuck at step .05 but it said I needed a Steam account first. Please advise.
I have a question regarding step .002, what is computer?
Is the a blue print for the big base ?
yeah. I was 150 hours in my .5 play through. I started over for .6...
Space Exploration 0.6 came out on July 6th. I wonder what the base looks like today.
I started a new playthrough just after the patch (without knowing), so I didn't experience that issue but I understood what was happening when the patch was brought up. Yikes...
Ok, bought Factorio. Step 0.002 check.
Download the mods. Step 0.05 check.
Alright, now how to crash land on an alien planet? Steps 0.051 to 0.099 must be some real doozies. 🤔
Super duper megabase is super, and mega.. And duper I guess :D
Aren't you on their planet? So aren't you the alien?
Entertaining as usual. Did anybody else notice that Zisteau did leak his real name as Matt, I predict by accident.
I mean really, water trains even for? ;D
wow I absolutely would have stopped playing this game if it were on console and I was forced to use an update that just rendered my entire base obsolete. That is the folly of playing on these unfinished games/mods
It was fun until you started playing with those trains. That was boring and uneccessary.
So, are you building the megabase on "the island" or "the continent?" Depending on that, you might be the one in violation of the treaty.
continent is just a big island
No lie. I have zero idea what’s going on. All I know is bombs go boom and worms, bitters and spitters go dead
Imagine rebuilding the base again because of an update xDDDDDDDD
....who wants to bet he puts another megabase in space connected via elevator
edit after watching: oops. space elevator is pretty neat tho, to my knowlege the space science is also easier to make in the update but not certian.
wooooo!
THAT INTRO!! LMAO
explain that Z on the map
yeaaaaah
Nanomachines son
Ah yes, the horrible problems of working on an in-development modpack. :)
SE .6 Oof! LOL!
Exactly why updates & auto updates are never good for crafting game!
OOF²
He legalized nuclear bombs
ouch is all I can say
Step #3.99🤣😅 - redo the entire base because the modpack updated ... :-(
Step .0003 buy computer
Step 0.0001 earn money to buy computer
Step 0.00001 get born
Step 0.000001 get conceived
Step 0.0000001 start evolving from singular cells
Step 0.00000001 form a matter ball out of gas
Step 0.000000001 start with a big bang.
who wants to see outdated mods? oO sad thing but i mean thats pretty useless
Hello everyone, good viewing
xxxxd
There’s wayyyy too much filler in this video. Takes way too long to get to the relevant info and just gets annoying