Yeh non of this is realistic to a massive population of the country.. People don’t have any money left over each week. 2 adults working at minimum wage makes it near impossible to save any money after just general living..
The housing market here over the last 7-8 years is unlike anything i have ever seen. Homes that were bought for $130k in 2015 are now being sold for $590k. I’m talking about tiny, disgusting, poorly built 950 square foot shit boxes in quite mediocre neighborhoods. Then you have got better average sized homes in nicer neighborhoods that were $300K+ 10 years ago selling for $750k+ now. Wild times.
A recession as bad it can be, provides good buying opportunities in the markets if you’re careful and it can also create volatility giving great short time buy and sell opportunities too. This is not financial advise but get buying, cash isn’t king at all in this time!
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Your only hope is If your parents own their home maybe you will inherit theirs assuming they don't downsize or end up in a nursing home. Also you'll probably have to share it with siblings if you have any.
20 years ago housing wasnt a investment it was a home.too many people with mummys and daddyas money deciding to buy multipule investment properties.too many poeple watching the block thinking they can buy a fibro dump and flip it for a quick million.then people buy the thinking well the price is gonna be higher later i have to buy now.then the cycle continues demo rebuild resell.
@@damien678happily stealing First-nation Australian's wages whilst probably investing these ill-gotten gains, only just acknowledged, about 100 years later.
Soooo it has zero to do with the Albanese govt. letting in 250,000 migrants in 24 months? Fucking cannot take any nuanced debate on housing that overlooks this issue seriously.
@Edgar-xh8iu both major political parties are in bed together when it comes to our economy, thinking otherwise is just dumb. It's just a good cop/bad cop machine.
As much as people like to shit on government (I like to as well), we have to acknowledge a big problem as well is Negative Gearing and CGT. When Labor tried to run election campaigns on those issues, they lost. It showed a majority of the voting population obviously has a stake in the property market and aren't willing to see concessions made in regards to them. I blame them as much, we need to see a shift in the landlords of australia, which unfortunately, was marketed to the middle income earners as a supplementary income source, especially at the higher end of middle income earners, and has now become common for them.
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That's been the historical norm throughout civilisation. The richest 1-2% own everything and everyone else serves the rich as slaves, serfs or subjects. It's derived from our heritage as one of the species of apes. Apes run around in packs or tribes with one as the Alpha leader and the rest in servitude to the Alpha. The human drive to greed, wealth accumulation and obsession with social status is deeply instinctual. It's also why we spend so much effort waging useless wars. Apes are highly territorial species. I blame in part natural selection for social misery. If only self-consciousness & language had evolved in cats instead of apes we & the planet might all be much better off...
Australia also allows non-residents to buy property. A significant number of properties are being bought by overseas investors that have never lived and never intend to live in Australia; being kept vacant to be flipped for future profit. Inner city apartments on the east coast in particular are notorious for this.
They also park their money here in property because it's safer. Some countries have governments that can literally take your wealth from you. It's not safe for them to keep money in their own countries.
Not to mention visa opportunities, and I've seen a few residential get bought out by foreign grow and then they whack in a cash only business to the side of it with signage out the front like it's a slum 🎉
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Don't forget the average household income is pretax income, but the house price is aftertax money with stamp duty etc on top, so if you calculated it that way, would be more than 10-15 times
Plus with very high cost of living, the amount you retain of said inome as savings for a house is lower than normal so this metric is further blown out. The avo on toast argument aged poorly.
@@nfc14g It's absolutely impossible to save for a house if you're renting too, you're forced to either live with your parents or share your living space with atleast two other people.
Taxes made from all things property should not be overlooked also. I never hear anyone talk about gov revenue multiplying merely by encouraging bubbles.
and that's just the cost to get the home, that's not factoring in stuff like owning it, i.e. council rate. Which of course won't be that much more, but it still adds to it.
@@furry_homunculusall governments around the world are terrified if housing prices come down. They will do ampnythingnto keep the housing prices going up. Every govt has printed too much money. Or borrowed too much. They cannot shrink their govt. It needs higher prices and higher taxes to continue. The need more and more debt to continue to grow. If property values drop then we get mad and ask why we pay such high property taxes. Then they threaten all the money to help the old and poor will be gone if we don't pay super high taxes.
This video didn't mention that there is a state 'transfer duty' of property deeds when you buy a property, more commonly known as 'stamp duty' here in Australia. Each state is a bit different, but here in NSW for a house over $1,168,00 (which in Sydney is basically all of them). Stamp duty is $47,295 plus $5.50 for every $100 over $1,168,000 ON TOP of the principle to purchase the house. Then there's lawyer fees, moving fees, inspection fees, real-estate fees etc etc. So that can add another 100k easy to a 1.3 million house. This is another reason that state governments LOVE insanely expensive housing, because they make an absolute FORTUNE in stamp duty tax coffers, and they are hopelessly addicted to this $$$$ scheme.
I totally agree with this, there is no incentive for the government to stop the ballooning house prices or sales as it would negatively affect themselves and the taxes each state receives.
@@philus85 There is plenty of incentive. Pushing up home prices and therefore rents lowers the standard of living for people of a lower socio economic status. Those people then need more government support, which costs them heaps more.
@@Foetoid2k6 How does that incentivise State and Local Politicians/bureaucrats? They just give themselves a pay rise to cope with higher living costs and more. The government support is mostly federal and they just tax small business and the workforce, all the while blaming each other as the cause.
My parents bought our 7BR family home in Melbourne 1988 for $138,000. The fact that doesn't even equal a house deposit for a 3BR home these days is absolute bonkers
@@minutemangangplank8599 Yep. Massive block of land too, all on dad's $60k salary. Plus we had an onsite caravan in Anglesea and we didn't want for anything. That Aussie dream. It's so fucked up that my wife and I earn so much more but with kids and soaring rents, we can't put money aside for a $200k deposit.
When I first started working (1998), a 3br house was $200,000, but I was single and living in shared house accommodation earning under $30,000, so wasn’t able to enter the market then. Then market took off and even though I got higher paying jobs, housing prices were much higher by that point.
Maybe get rid of bogan culture ? Delete centrelink . Your parents should have prepare properties for you . Why you guys think every property owners are Chinese and Indians . We have correct mindset
exactly dude, survival of the fittest, adapt or die. just admit aussie bogans are spoilt. stop complain. you have no right to protest about any issue, unless u have contributed to the financial stability of your family. before that , be quiet. SHHHH@@nonotthaone
There's also the quality of the properties which is falling because developers are getting squeezed and materials are getting harder to access, and there's the projected cost in property taxes which is probably going to keep getting raised because it's one of the only things the country has left to tap into. At the end of the day, it's worth considering whether you're getting value for money and what else you could do with that money, following everyone else chasing momentum just means you're part of the bubble.
Everyone's being squeezed except the banksters and the politicians. This is a typically superficial analysis. It focus is on symptoms rather than the disease. The disease is criminal governance and private corporate money supply control by banks given the power to PRETEND to create and issue AND periodically constrict the issuance of fiat debt tokens fraudulently called money by the banks and the Australian federal government. In a huge EXTORTION RACKET the federal government COLLUDES with privately owned banks to gift to them the right to PRETEND to create and issue money AT INTEREST. That means that the banks STEAL the full amount of every loan amount they place in a so-called "borrowers" account PLUS compound interest on that imaginary sum. That's highway robbery! Even counterfeiters don't charge COMPOUND INTEREST on the money they steal, for years after the event, but banks do. See eg: ronchapman.substack.com/p/cosmic-consciousness-and-its-energetic ronchapman.substack.com/p/the-incredible-mortage-scam-explained ronchapman.substack.com/p/home-mortgages-and-bank-interest ronchapman.substack.com/p/cashless-society ronchapman.substack.com/p/the-fed-and-all-the-rothschilds-central The reason Australia is becoming a dystopia in which young people cannot afford to buy a home and raise a family (a situation concealed by the government bringing in huge numbers of immigrants to fill the gap caused by Australians' failure to replace the population naturally), and that most people are miserable wage slaves scrabbling to live is because the federal government is a private corporation OWNED by the same plutocrats that OWN the banks, As a result, the government does what the bank owners tell them to do. This crime is so huge that people refuse to believe it and videos like this REINFORCE that situation and control by the banksters. IF people refuse to research this matter and reject governance by these criminals they must live with the consequences. IMHO endless whinging about the situation is no compensation for the misery.
so sad, all my neighbours here in Melbourne aren't even here. They live in china and invest their money in australian houses. Immigration has not helped.
The government needs to implement a ban on foreign ownership and force mandatory buy backs. This would do wonders for the locals as it would increase stock and potentially lead to a decline in prices.
Immigration is a stain on the country, terrible idea, absolute retardation of the Australian government. Anyone Chinese shouldn't be allowed to buy any property unless they live in the country and are a citizen.
Melbourne really isn’t the best place to live, let alone in the world it’s not even the best in Australia. It is rampant with crime, both the people and the politicians. I’ve lived in Brisbane and Adelaide and Melbourne doesn’t come close to either, don’t believe the hype it’s normally younger people living in the city, partying etc thinking it’s great vs families wanting peace and quiet. I’ve been here 3 years and had several murders near me and I don’t even live in a bad area, people don’t even follow the basic laws on the road and the police presence is almost zero.
I'm born and bred, Melbourne. In the 80's and early 90's, it was a magnificent city. That's changed. And it's changed, a lot. I left Melbourne 27 years ago. I go back now and can't believe the devastation. It's become a traffic congested cultural void. And everyone seems so darned angry and uptight. No one has the time of day, for anything. The city is too big. Community is gone. It's just a bunch of ghettos now, that no one can really afford to live in.
sHHH.... don't tell them that because then you'll give the halfwits an idea about moving out of this cancer infested shithole. Let them stay in their LiVeAbLe city.
@@davidbrayshaw3529Sydney syndrome... everyone is scared to make eye contact, a random smile is never reciprocated, and "excuse me, sorry" is a phrase that doesn't exist in anyone's lexicon anymore
China already bought more than half apartments everywhere around sydney and keeps them empty without renting out.. Thats the root cause of where all this rent crisis began in the first place
My Indian Uber driver the other day was bragging about how many on his rich relatives have immigrated into Piara Waters in the last 4 years and how much money they have made on their properties that I could not even dream of purchasing at the moment. And our government has just made it easier for more to follow, scary times..
As a home owner, id say prices went up hard due to the influx of overseas money, especially those that came here to "hide" their money in property, and most of them didnt care about the proce or just outbid the rest of us. Demand and availability....yeah...30,000 new homes a year and a 300,000 immigration. No chance of affording a place anymore.
Hey, I'm a kiwi and Perth looks good. I've got equity but if I sold here I'd get an average house at best, you guys pay high wages, kinda makes sense for us
@@dominicwang5846 because people like me cruise over and pay a high price for a home except to us, coming out of Auckland, it's much cheaper than home so we drive up prices. Sorry....
Australia needs to crack down on the artificial scarcity and thus artificially high prices of housing. This far and no further. However, every time the ruling party even thinks about doing that, figures of the realestate business and property developers and career landlords make sure they won't go through with it.
The BIGGEST driver of house prices BY FAR is the state governments restricting the development of new land for housing ... they haven't even developed enough land to cover population growth and immigration ... and their excuse ...SAVING THE ENVIRONMENT
rampant crime, councils/local-members who are deaf to their constituents. I always say to look at the quality of the roads and public gardens in an area and it will show you if there's high levels of corruption in the local government or not.
I recently did some reading on the Japanese housing market (I have ancestry there) and their houses actually depreciate over 30 years. There are a lot of factors that go into it, and Japans economy is a a mess, but if Australia adopted that system then this would disappear overnight. And I know its a good idea because if you talk about it to Boomers they get defensive and mad because their artificial wealth will suddenly fall apart.
I suspect that is partly because of Japan's decreasing population. If we cut immigration, then our population will stop growing and houses might be more likely to depreciate over time. I don't think that's a good idea though. I have no idea if it is possible for our government to make houses depreciate through policy. But I am generally concerned whenever the government gets too involved in the economy.
@@mitzee8621 their houses lose value due to the constantly updating earthquake-resistance standards. But one thing none of my research mentioned is it also keeps primary industries going. Timber, metals, concrete etc are always in some measure of demand and blue collar workers always have something to do. You don't have to be a citizen to buy a house in Japan but why would you? Foreign investors are big driver in Australian house prices and it's because they appreciate very aggressively and are often only left over for holiday homes for said investors. You wouldn't buy a house in Japan unless you absolutely need to. A house in Tokyo is only USD$250k. That's about 2/3 of the value of a house in Brisbane, which has about 1/8th of the population. Again, I know it's not a great comparison but there are additional perks to this system that nobody wants to talk about because it's too much of a change to the status quo. You're paying over $1 million in Sydney for a house built in the 1940s that has seen nearly zero maintenance, or about half that (after conversion) for a house in the largest metropolitan area in the world with some of the most efficient infrastructure. And I agree, I don't like the government getting involved in things either but we can't continue to have a society that feels aimless and sees no value in working towards a goal when the basics our grandparents had are now considered "upper class things." That won't be good for us long term, and could lead to instability that will be worse than some people having to make a loss on some dog properties.
@@mike_d_melb_music_fan5229 The IPCC 6th Assessment predicts about a 0.7m sea level rise around Australia by 2100. Given the general topology of Australian coastlines, I would be surprised if sea level rise on its own would have much impact on property value. I'd need to understand coastal erosion more to be able to say anything confidently. A quick read suggests that around 39,000 buildings in Australia are within 100m of soft shorelines, which are apparently the types of coasts most susceptible to coastal erosion. In the worst case, there will likely be some depreciation in the value of coastal property, though informally, it seems like it might not be a very significant factor in the overall property market in Australia. Bush fires have always been and always be an issue for property value. This and increased storm activity are probably the most likely to cause depreciation. I'm also curious to see how our economy will respond.
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The other issue keeping prices high is the government not reducing immigration, maintaining record high immigration is ensuring the demand outweighs supply. And also governments acting slowly on development approval and land releases adds to this issue. We basically need the government to recognise they are the biggest part of the problem and do something about it, issue there is many MPs have property portfolios so you are asking them to take actions that will negatively impact their personal wealth... This is exactly why members of parliament should not be allowed to invest in the stock market or property because when they do it creates a conflict of interest.
Oh they know they are part of the problem, they don't care because being slow is profitable for most people working on the project. This is why the indigenous communities never see a dollar of the tax supposedly garnished into programs to help them.
Absolutely right. Apparently we'll have a net migration of HALF A MILLION PEOPLE this year, which is a solid percentage of the existing population. We'll never have affordable housing with the insane levels of competition this amount of immigration brings.
Limiting immigration would work if young Australians could afford to have children. You see the problem here? We HAVE to bring immigrants in in their current numbers.
The incompetence and corruption that runs through this administration are getting more ridiculous. I feel for people with disabilities not getting the help they deserved. Thank you Arleth Toledo, imagine investing $1000 and receiving $4,300 in a few days🇱🇷
My dad in the early 2000s managed to buy a home, supporting mum, and three kids at the same time.. he worked 2 jobs and it killed him but that would not even be close to being possible these days.
I bought a 300m² land and house package, $365,000, suburbs of Perth. I was earning $55,000 before tax at the time of getting the loan, with a $35,000 deposit, still had money to spare in my budget after the house was built. Now I earn $100,000 before tax, and very easily have the capacity to support a family. I started the process 4 years ago though. I didn't think I could get a place, I was just curious what I could get and how much I'd need, so I looked around a few builders, found one with a good track record, and went in for a meeting just out of curiosity, came out of that meeting with a house on the way.
@@N3G4T3You’re lucky. I never thought about moving to Perth I’m from Sydney and would consider country NSW or VIC but even those prices have exploded. I once saw a shop for sale in some area in WA it may have been 2hr drive from Perth and it was dirt cheap.
Inflation hasn't finished going higher and rates will follow. Just look at the US10Y. What everyone is missing is who sets the price of a house, the bank. If they won't lend >1m anymore, then that sets the price. The house of cards is shaky. It's not complicated.
The new Labor government is currently allowing a notable influx of migrants to enter the Australian housing market, in addition to foreign investors who are funneling funds into Australian real estate, potentially for undisclosed purposes. This situation is exacerbated by a severe shortage of available homes. An issue that warrants attention is the active participation of companies like BlackRock and Vanguard, which are acquiring properties on a global scale and possess significant ownership stakes in at least 51% of all Australian banks. From my perspective, this scenario may be mutually beneficial for various stakeholders, but it could put the Australian population at a disadvantage.
Those same Blackrock and Vanguard companies are pressuring governments to "save the environment" by restricting the release of new land for housing ... which drives up costs for houses... and their investments
I think its a rort that no politicians have done anything about this. How many days or hrs did it take them to put covid restricitions in place, and how strict they were about it.
Labour did, they took it to an election ... and against all odds ScoMo won. I 100% believe it was because Labour were going to do something about investment properties ... that they lost an election everybody predicted they would win. The voters fkd it ...bunch of turncoat Labour ppl voted Liberal because they had or wanted to get an investment property
Because polititians usually have multiple investment properties, in addition to their ppor. So it is in their own best interests to enforce policies that keep the ponzi scheme going. ie, increase imigration to keep housing demand high.
Their primary voter demographic owns at least one property, many of those owning two or more. They keep their jobs by ensuring prices increase, regardless of whether they themselves own property or not.
Yet 'Rich People' always claim that there at lots of jobs out there. Minimum wage jobs. But jobs. Just got to be poor and happy I guess. But as long as we all keep on paying rent, it supports these Rich People and their Dreams.
Move to the regions plenty of jobs and houses out there... Remember that Barnaby? Remember? What a Gronk... Who's gonna flip burgers and make coffees in Double Bay then huh?
I'm building my dream home in minecraft. But they made diamonds harder to find, so development time has increased by 30%. Also, lightning struck my wheat field, setting it ablaze, so I'm often hungry. And I play single player, so there is a significant factor of loneliness.
in 2022, mid pandemic my landlords took my rent from $250 a week to $450.. absolutley ruined my life now im at my parents house as a 29 year old the prospect of renting doesnt even go through my head anymore, i gave up looking at rentals online cause theyre just rediculous you get excited for a crack house thats falling apart because the rent is reasonable (then the house still gets 30 offers)
Should have got a friend to move in, otherwise move to a different location with cheaper rent. $450 I still cheap lol. Don’t live with a victim mentality.
Another factor hitting the Australian Housing Crisis is dodgy builders. I'm wondering how many homes will need to be torn down and rebuilt, or have really high repair bills in 10 years.
Yea but that’s the funny thing coz I’m a tradie and that didn’t use to be the problem u only had one here and there but now days they are everywhere. To many non Australians working in the trade and not doing there job properly because there is so much more work need to be done coz ppl r trying to move into the country.
They wont let that happen as existing Aussie family fall of the mortgage cliff going from fixed rates they will let foreign investment rise and of our 600k immigrants this year many have sold off assets before coming here so are cashed up. The banks books are holding such high volume of mortgages on their books a 10% housing price fall it would put balance sheets in the red. They will do everything to protect the banks unfortunately we need a a National owned bank which would keep profits in Australia and provide loans for small business and housing unfortunately our 6 biggest banks have the same biggest shareholders BlackRock the biggest one.
The net migration figure is currently a staggering 450k+ per annum adding heavy demand to property. It's really uneconomical to build housing to match excess demand. (Diseconomies of Scale)
@@peekabooicancu Still is, because most of that land is inhospitable, and even more lacks the infrastructure and jobs to support that much immigration into their local areas.
@@brownie43212 It's not a land shortage that we'll ever have, it's a lack of resources that we face when expanding these suburbs further and further away from the coastline and large rivers and lakes. For example, if you doubled Bendigo's population from 120k to 240k, they'd have a diabolical water shortage - same goes for Ballarat... Australia's natural resources can support a maximum of around 30 million people, and we're most of the way there.
@@peekabooicancudo you really want to live in the middle of nowhere, where the nearest supermarket is a 2 hour drive away? It only works if you're looking to be a farmer
Referencing EIU's liveability index is not a real reflection of how liveable the cities in those lists are. It's used for businesses relocating high-earning individuals and focuses on more on private healthcare and education than most people would consider including things like availability of 'high' quality housing (aka expensive homes). It is used for adjusting salaries for the cities in the list. Denmark being so high on the list is also laughable because they are very insular nation and generally very unwelcoming to outsiders.
I love Australia. I grew up here since I was seven, but the more and more I continue, the less I can see myself living here in the future. I definitely don't want to spend 30+ years paying of a home loan and living in near poverty while doing so. More and more of us are leaving, and I will be too in a couple of years. I've been looking at New Zealand South Island. Far more affordable
Lower Sth Island but very bleak costs are high and medical is tortuous and they have mass immigration and soon will open housing market to overseas buyers under Luxon who owns 7 houses.
Sorry to burst your bubble but NZ are on the same path as Australia. Not as bad, and bc they have a smaller population it will take longer to worsen but the numbers don't lie
Not only Australia and USA share this problem. On my playground which is Poland afford a own rent house or apartament is quite expensive not mention buy house on you own. Same situation in nearly entire EU.
What's sad is that all the young adults and mid to late teenagers have already given up on ever buying a house, it's out of reach for 90% of us so why bother. Even if the housing market was half of the value it is now, it's still scary. All we can hope now is that we never go homeless. I always thought owning a home was one of our rights to live but it seems I was wrong. At this point it'd be safer to move out into the middle of nowhere and build your own house with nothing but primitive tools but even land is absurdly priced. A single person can work there entire life and only have a fraction of what they need to afford a home... the real question is, will the housing market ever improve in that person's lifespan... Will the market ever drop to the point where a house is within reach for a single person who earns minimum wage? The fact that it doesn't seem like they even should be able to afford a house is part of our problem, who cares about the job itself, anyone who dedicates 40 hours a week to society at the very least deserves the right to live comfortably but that is not currently the world we live in.
I've been spreading this sentiment to my fellow millennial and gen Z friends, but my ideal living scenario now includes nothing but a motorhome towing a caravan. If my whole generation says "nah fuck that" to the current housing market and we all just move into mobile homes, we won't have to worry about this shit til retirement age + get to live wherever we want 🤷🏼♂️
@@4bidn1I'm with you, until I had kids. However, I managed to pay off most my loan while living in the van, partly thanks to my tenants and I bought in 2019 just before the prices went crazy. Bit of pain, long term gain 😅. You could cry about the house prices or you can find another solution. Nothing wrong with living in a van, id still be living in one quite happily if I didn't get pregnant.❤
Hey I did a little digging, the graph at 1:43 is actually wrong. Median house price in Sydney is $1,333,985 while average sydney salary is $80,000. Meaning it's actually 17.5 times salary, not 13-14.
You forget the costs of actually owning a house across the term and also the fees incurred. Insurances, brokerage and legal fees, commissions, rates. All this makes owning a home alot higher.
Thanks for the informative video. Keen to follow progress on the housing situation in Melb. Being burned by crazy rent on a lousy townhouse but am ready to buy.. it doesn’t feel like it’s ever going to get cheaper here in inner Melb for a house and as you said, that population xwill be growing in the next ten years, so if I stay renting, I can expect my rent to go up too. I think I’ve gotta bite the bullet 😬
I've been applying for flats/houses for over 3yrs!! Ive neen living in backpackers accommodation, Motel (too expensive long-termat $130per night, couch surfed for a year, now pay $350 for a room in a closed down hotel. When you go see a rental and 'rich well off' offers 6months in advance how can the average person EVER get accepted?!! F Air B&B too!! They get a week's rent in a night why would they rent it out. How can i ever get a home to be the nanny my grandchildren deserve with this crazy rental market atm!!
No one needs 5 houses (even 2 is debatable). Tax the hell out of investment properties. Since the Howard government, Australia has actively incentivised property investment through the CGT discount.
@@Millez if my family didn't own investment properties that they worked hard for in the 90s and 2000s then i'd never be able to afford to move out. blame rampant chinese investors instead of australians looking out for their family interests.
@@handlehagglerUnfortunately it's not talent, it's open for whoever will work for less and not have an issue with it. Because at the end of the day it's much better than what they can get in their countries. All the talented people stay in their country because they're successful and can make it.
Firstly, thank you for making this video. My comment has a lot to do with housing scarcity. I understand the model you explain in your video definitely works in principle. The part that doesn’t seem to be working, that I’d love to understand, is how occupancy works. Are owners withholding properties for rent in a hope to drive up prices? In addition to this, I have seen property developers building luxury housing which people cannot afford. So it adds to the level that is unoccupied. Is this a factor in rent increasing also?
You are correct about empty properties being withheld from the rental market... My cousin attempted to list the three apartments he owns in Caulfield as he'd just finished renovating them at about the same time, and the property manager basically said "We already have a few properties in that area listed for rent and we don't want to put downward pressure on the price for those properties. I can put you on a callback list and reach out to you in a month or so when they are leased out, and then we can ensure we get the best rental figure for your properties". And when he suggested he'd approach another real estate agency, the realtor basically just said "We all know each other and have a shared file system to ensure we keep the prices in the area high". So yes, the system is absolutely rigged, and it's mostly being rigged by the real estate agencies working together to createa a false/manufactured scarcity. The overall issue is that there's actually PLENTY of empty rental properties, but they're being managed (and therefore withheld) by a tiny number of major real estate agencies... If every landlord in the country were to skip the middle man and list their property on REA and Domain themselves, the rental vacancy rate would go from the current 1.2% to around 4-5%...
It’s about 18-20 years since the last financial crisis. And the market often goes in cycles, look up the yield inversion curve. I think we are already facing this downturn in the market.
I think apartment and units will go down but I think house prices will at least maintain its price. Every developed country has gone through this before (house v apartment disparity). With each cycle, it will continue to widen this gap until only the ultra wealthy can afford houses and normal people are living in apartments.
@@dh7899 Yeah Maybe. But I disagree, if a real crisis comes house prices will fall like in 2008. Covid was not a real crisis. The state was lending us money for free and it was a forced recession. So we are not counting that. House prices will fall. I’m sure, look at the interest rates.
@@chrisja1998 It just depends on who you think buying these houses. I will mention my doubt comes from the fact I work in the mortgage industry and data says otherwise. Most people paying these house mortgages are have lower principal payments or they are high income earners.
I feel sorry for anyone what buys a new house in Melbourne tofu dregs type buildings. that are basically all the corners cut to make a house as quickly as possible. The houses in Melbourne wont last a few years. The money in the system is not enough to pay the debts in the Ponzi scheme
You are both correct. The current quantity of currency in the system will not extinguish all existing debts, but more currency can be created from greater and greater loan creation.
Same goes for the whole Greater Western Sydney area. The new build garbage quite literally is not built to last. Old homes from the 1800s in the inner areas still standing strong. The cookie cutter estates with poorly designed homes on postage stamp sized blocks of land are also not built with climate and the environment in mind. Black roofs as far as the eye can see. So many of them with huge west facing windows in the living area and upstairs bedrooms that turn into ovens on hot days. The 'solution' of split system AC for every living area and bedroom simply pumps more hot air outside, increasing the ambient temperature. We're about to head into an el nino summer, 50C coming to an outer estate near you!
Well put together video. I dont beleive the mortgage cliff actually exists on mass. There is only a very small percentage of the entire property market that maxed out their borrowing capacity two years ago to upgrade or purchases a home. This small section of the market will really struggle as they come off their fixed rate. I don't see this significantly impacting stock levels or property values.
This is 100% a consequence of currency debasement. It's no coincidence the money supply chart has the same shape as the housing price chart. When there's more dollars chasing after the same relative supply of scarce desirable assets the price goes up. The problem is, those new dollars do not get distributed evenly (see cantillon effect).
Well, that, and the massive taxation that is used to recuperate the costs of all the inflation but of course, we still run deficits. Sorry, but this country is just an open air prison that taxes you out the ass. I’ve noticed that the message is always, “enough to survive.” It’s never, “what if I want to work more and become wealthy, and not get punished for making jobs or trying to improve my own life.” Why is that never part of the conversation, I wonder?
@@rogerc6533 FIAT currency has been around a long time, and it always goes to zero for the same reason. It is printed to pay for everyone’s stuff, because people want free this and that, and don’t want to pay for it. Australia has done something different where we tax people to pay for all this welfare, both public and private, but doing that means that there will never be any grass roots innovation because why bother when you get taxed to pay for someone else’s school, medicine, place to live etc. The governments around the world can talk all big, about fighting inflation but it’s the people who have caused and the government spending is the problem. The government being corrupt is just a feature. As much as Australians don’t like America, the American system of hierarchy seperate power is superior to what we have here. The problem is, when you fill the government with people who will bribe the populace with money, that isn’t theirs, you can’t expect much. I’m a small government guy, there isn’t much of that down here in Oz, the problem, as you mentioned, is that this “cucked” communism is encroaching everywhere, so there isn’t anywhere worth going to. We are boned, enjoy the decline.
The issue is zoning in my opinion. It encourages urban sprawl and discourges mixed use. Change regulations and zoning laws and our cities could be more like Tokyo affordability. Prices will drop, but every home owner now will oppose this, as this will devalue their investments.
I'm in my 50's. I started playing house in 2003. Interest only for a few years, then depression sunk in. Sold after the divorce, I lost everything except my ability to complain. lol. I had no chance of entering the market again back then, let alone now. Once you have employment gap, you are out of the game. My B Eng, didn't help. If it wasn't for my parents, I could be homeless in QLD.
It’s unfortunate. I’m part of the younger generation who will never own a home thanks to inflation, immigration and greed. I don’t smoke or drink or indulge in expensive stuff, I work my butt off everyday just like my partner does, I don’t have a flash brand new car or the best of everything, and I sure as shit don’t go out for breakfast of smashed avocado on toast either. Hard working and genuine people like us are the ones who lose at the end of the day - we get hit with rego rises, taxes, bills going up and little to no return for anything. It’s hard. It’s starting to make me feel depressed - and I don’t usually get like this. If you mention the difficulties with trying to buy a house to anyone older than us, we get reprimanded that we need to “not want the best of everything” but hey, not all of us young people do that. Is it so hard for housing to be a fundamental human right for Australian people? Or is it a greed thing? Its ridiculous!
Thanks Hamish great Video. My question is, what happens when the cost of property is so high that people can't afford it even with full time job? As our wages have not gone up much.
My kids live in Brisbane and rent has gone up close to 50% past 2 years so I don't know where Govt numbers come from when you see rental increase of 4.5% for the year in the CPI numbers, just what world are they living in, not the real one that's for sure.
Have no fear. Recession is almost here! Central banks cut rates as asset valuations crash and the cycle starts again 😅 average property prices will become more affordable relative to now but remain expensive for the average Joe and Jane. If Joe and Jane don’t lose their jobs in recession
@@chairmanzia3556 Homeowners hurt to see house equity go down but don’t lose their homes. People with unaffordable mortgages do and foreclose. Supply goes up, demand goes down, house prices come in.
Sadly your info is a bit off. I have 2.09% expirying shortly, not the 2.2 2 yr fixed you list as "best!", with 6.04 on newer loans, not the 6.5% you mention at the beginning of the video. I acknowledge these are small variations, but they add up and for me undermine the validity of other information you share The 'average' property price is also somewhat irrevelant for first home buyers. Your first home is something you can afford. Once you are on the wheel there should only be adjustments between properties. eg 320-400k will get you a 2 bed apartment in Kingswood/penrith NSW. Achievable for you and your partner. 4-8 years later, when your first child is going to school you can then adjust your housing as required since your property value will grow inline with other properties. Dont get me wrong, I dont know how my kids will afford property in the future. I rented at 19, bought at 28. I am now 46, and they are 11 and 13.... But while 'average' house prices are better than 'the most expensive house in sydney is $20m, how can you survive!', it doesnt give as much useful info as it could
Over the ditch, here in NZ, situation is the same, buying, building and renting is a disaster too, Auckland and Welligton the worst. Crazy inflation in all 4, of those areas too, at same time, all at once, Buying is hugely unaffordable, renting is worse tho Edit: it's cheaper to pay a mortgage payment each month or year, then rent in many places. I know of 100 people looking through rentals on open home days and offering bribes and higher rents to landlords, to secure a rental. Then giving up and buying a car to live in or but as a group asset. Single or a couple, on good, double incone of 60-70k getting no where. It's a mess for same reasons you speak of
I’m in owner of a large property next railway station in major road, in Sydney, I’ve been waiting on a local council state government for the past seven years to do the LEP if going to build next to infrastructure we need to get the roadblock out of their way so we can get low rentals in lower prices we have no hope if it takes this long for governments to get their act together
I work for a bank in the call centre, we get a lot of people in this scenario. It's really hard to see what choice to make, so my partner and I are renting instead of commiting to buy and growing our money in other ways. Don't forget that if ur not careful, the things you buy will end up owning you.
Even if you have $1 million in cash to buy a property. You will then need $60,000 to pay the Victorian government just for the privilege of buying it, aka Stamp Duty. Then insurance, maintenance, council rates etc will be an annual expense of $15-$20 thousand dollars every single year for the rest of your life. And politicians want us to blame these greedy landlords for needing to put up the rent.
Keep crying passively building wealth off land sucks money out of the economy. You don't actually care about addressing the housing crisis you just want the government to remove barriers that make it harder for you to get more investment properties.
Did you know that there are families from phillipines who get government housing in Australia and they work for 6 months of the year and then for the other 6 months they go back to phillipines and work, get cash money, have a holiday while their government housing house sits empty here in Australia for that 6 months while we have families and children living in their cars or tents or nothing !Disgusting! Shame on those people
Great video! Please also note that when a housing market crash would happen people who are planning to buy using a mortgage will miss out on buying a “cheap” house due to the reluctancy of banks to lend money… only out right buyers or buyers with minimal mortgages will be able to benefit… In reality Housing density needs to go up not everyone is looking to start a family and move to the suburbs + new city cores away from CBD’s Or solution that would address the urgency better is: the government could revert their years of incompetence by building post world war 2 housing projects of course with modern amenities and infrastructure to increase inventory.
The Australian housing market is going to be one of the biggest massacres in history. We are headed for a deep recession, the worst part is that it won't be a deflationary recession but a repeat of the 70's 'stagflationary' recession, only worse, due to obscene levels of debt now compared to the 70's. The US 2 and 10 year yields are about to revert back to positive. In every single case since WWII when the 2 and 10 year went from positive to negative(inverted) and then reverted back to positive, a recession began within 3 months. The worst part that I mentioned about this time is that the signal is being triggered not as the 2 year yield is declining, but as both the 2 year and 10 year yields are rising, BUT, the 10 year is rising faster. This is why gold has moved up so much in the last 2 weeks. It isn't due, as most think, to war, it is due to gold anticipating the coming recession. Gold outperforms in recessions rising anywhere from 50 - 100%. The implications for the housing market with a combination of rising rates, inflation and unemployment and stagnant/declining wages are going to be catastrophic. Of interest, Rick Santelli, the only CNBC regular I have any respect for due to his nearly 5 decades in the bond pits, warned 2 weeks ago that the US 10 year rate could hit 13.5-14% within 7 years. And don't think for ONE single moment that central bankers can lower rates this time around because as Santelli pointed out, bond vigilantes/traders will ultimately determine what happens to rates. The Fed and other central bankers are about to be destroyed for decades of fiscal incompetence and rate shenanigans. Moral of the story. Gold is going to go ballistic into 2030 just as it did in the 70's along with rates and inflation.
I agree fully with this, so do you think this will be a deflationary event for Aussie houses or thing houses stay the same except people won't be able to afford the interest repayments etc.. thanks for you take.. been watching the yield curve also listening to TXMC on RUclips. He's on the ball with this stuff majorly
Yes agree, Wildcard, immigration policies, as a purposeful destabilizing effect , like a certain cough etc Added note, Apparently the more citizens a country has , the more it can borrow, Hence the immigration .
@@davidbrayshaw3529 Got news for you. The US Fed has lost control of rates. Mortgage rates at 10% will destroy the housing market. And 10% is probably conservative. Powell warned Biden again last week that the US has to stop spending because the deficit is now unmanageable
@@davidbrayshaw3529 I hear you, but supply constraints alone won't matter if the general economy stalls and people can't find enough work to fund their extreme mortgages due to significant interest rate rises causing that stall.
Critics on your methodology: A really world-wide study would be the UBS Real Estate Bubble Index, in which Top10 cities are: Zurich (CH), Tokyo(JP), Miami (US), Munich(GER), Frankfurt (GER), Hong Kong (CN), Toronto (CA), Geneva (CH), LA (US), London (UK). Syndney would come in P16 then. Moreover, while the quality of life may be one good reason to move to Australia, the EIU data is inconsistent with other survey. That s mainly because they differ in their methodology. The Mercer's QoL would for example give the following Top10: Vienna (A), Zurich (CH), Vancouver (CA), Munich (GER), Auckland (NZ), Dusseldorf (GER), Frankfurt (GER), Copenhagen (DEN), Geneva (CH), Basel (CH). Conclusion: I would argue along your lines of argumentation that the housing crisis is affecting Australia as well as all (!) major western countries. Yet, I dont think that studies you quote are suitable to prove your special point on extremely high prices in Australia. The demographia data, in particular, is not about the least affordable cities in the world! It is just 8 (!eight!) nations. So to conclude, the housing crisis has not affected Australia overproportionally. However, it is a problem that the complete western world has to deal with, and was mainly triggered by low interest rates for over a decade. But we will most probably see falling prices in the next few years since demand for raw building materials in China has plummeted and interest rates have cut into financing costs of potential buyers' budget.
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We need to get rid of the politicians holding the house prices up with their policies and denie immigration for a few years and also denie non citizens buying property.
Unfortunately a decent chunk of our population has their money held up in property investments, so they hate decreasing house prices. It's not just politicians, there are people actively fighting to put them there.
labor is saying the private property section will build 1.2m homes in 5 years not them, they just approve things and give incentives. labor loves to take credit for things you see. we need greens in government
@@arielbeninca3658 ooh don't let the rustedons hear you say that! But yeah, for a PM who rode into the top job on the story of growing up in public housing, he certainly seems to have no interest in, you know, making more public housing so we don't have hundreds of thousands of people on the waiting list for years at a time. Don't even get me started on the DSP aspect of his upbringing
@@arielbeninca3658 oh yeah the greens are gonna do such a good job, voting down enviromental legislation because its not good enough for them. to the greens, its better to do nothing than try.
This is also not really a problem that can just be solved by building more homes anyway. Who is going to be able to afford those homes? People who already own property and can borrow against it, or just people have very deep pockets and expect to make a return on buying an investment property. It might take a little bit for the landlords to absorb all the new buildings, but building more houses with the current system in place just results in more houses for people owned by people who aren't going to live in them.
I bought a dump in the country outright with my 20% deposit, the value almost doubled by the time the contracts went through. We have spent around $120k renovating and now its worth more than 3 times what we’ve paid for it. If you can work from home get out of the major cities and go bush. Our experience has been amazing.
Stable and planned immigration is fine. But not this knee-jerk reaction we have seen from the Albanese government where they have dramatically increased the amount of vias being issued and it has put huge strain on housing, infrastructure and healthcare. The current government is only worsening the quality of life for Australians.
i like how the spec went from average income to average 'household' income.. we must be like close to 20x average income. single ppl are screwed... but dont worry if you cant afford rent, just move to Bundaberg QLD where the mayor said its fine to come live in a tent in the park under the bridge.. hehe
people are looking at perth now because it has the most “affordable” houses like do not come until we have our shit together, fastest rent increases by % in thr country, and a vacancy rate that is approaching 0.5%… all the demand from over east and overseas is choking the city
Melbourne’s biggest rental real estate issue is all the Chinese that have flocked here and run out rent prices up through the roof in the city an dinner suburbs
in SA, theres a auction for a simple home near us. got sold 980,000! meantime my mum is building her big house valued the same. I do think buyers do joint accounts to avail for loans. im not a broker im just guessin
It's not a one facet problem sadly, yes the immigration (mainly the boat people and chinese nationalists) is a part of it but there are also strategies at play in the financial sectors meant to extract wealth from the middle class through their property.
It's 1000 per cent immigration. Sydney got very affordable during the pandemic. Landlords had to adjust to the income of city. People try to talk it down. But it's clearly the majority of the problem.
I bought my home on the Gold Coast for just 8 grand. I moved in a month ago. It is a 2006 Honda Accord.
8 grand is a bit expensive for a 2006, no?
@@DuncanL7979depends on when he bought it right?
Don't you mean Holden Commodore or Ford Falcon? Fancy Honda home eh?
@@Central-Scrutinizer Is that your attempt at humour or something mate? Ha freaking ha??
Yeh non of this is realistic to a massive population of the country..
People don’t have any money left over each week.
2 adults working at minimum wage makes it near impossible to save any money after just general living..
The housing market here over the last 7-8 years is unlike anything i have ever seen. Homes that were bought for $130k in 2015 are now being sold for $590k. I’m talking about tiny, disgusting, poorly built 950 square foot shit boxes in quite mediocre neighborhoods. Then you have got better average sized homes in nicer neighborhoods that were $300K+ 10 years ago selling for $750k+ now. Wild times.
A recession as bad it can be, provides good buying opportunities in the markets if you’re careful and it can also create volatility giving great short time buy and sell opportunities too. This is not financial advise but get buying, cash isn’t king at all in this time!
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Damn, I knew I should have bought a house instead of being in year 3 :’(
Your only hope is If your parents own their home maybe you will inherit theirs assuming they don't downsize or end up in a nursing home. Also you'll probably have to share it with siblings if you have any.
Haha! Don't be so hard on yourself. You still have plenty of time to make your dreams come true.
20 years ago housing wasnt a investment it was a home.too many people with mummys and daddyas money deciding to buy multipule investment properties.too many poeple watching the block thinking they can buy a fibro dump and flip it for a quick million.then people buy the thinking well the price is gonna be higher later i have to buy now.then the cycle continues demo rebuild resell.
Tents are still cheap
@@man.i.literally.failed6772Not really... and they're mostly thin plastic now too
Govm in Australia will never fix housing affordability because most of them own investment properties and get tax breaks for them.
Yep :') they've been the landlords bleeding us dry this whole time
@@damien678happily stealing First-nation Australian's wages whilst probably investing these ill-gotten gains, only just acknowledged, about 100 years later.
Soooo it has zero to do with the Albanese govt. letting in 250,000 migrants in 24 months? Fucking cannot take any nuanced debate on housing that overlooks this issue seriously.
@Edgar-xh8iu both major political parties are in bed together when it comes to our economy, thinking otherwise is just dumb. It's just a good cop/bad cop machine.
As much as people like to shit on government (I like to as well), we have to acknowledge a big problem as well is Negative Gearing and CGT. When Labor tried to run election campaigns on those issues, they lost. It showed a majority of the voting population obviously has a stake in the property market and aren't willing to see concessions made in regards to them. I blame them as much, we need to see a shift in the landlords of australia, which unfortunately, was marketed to the middle income earners as a supplementary income source, especially at the higher end of middle income earners, and has now become common for them.
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I never knew that when I became an adult that a HOME to live in will become a scarce commodity that's reserved for rich people
Same
That's been the historical norm throughout civilisation. The richest 1-2% own everything and everyone else serves the rich as slaves, serfs or subjects. It's derived from our heritage as one of the species of apes. Apes run around in packs or tribes with one as the Alpha leader and the rest in servitude to the Alpha. The human drive to greed, wealth accumulation and obsession with social status is deeply instinctual. It's also why we spend so much effort waging useless wars. Apes are highly territorial species. I blame in part natural selection for social misery. If only self-consciousness & language had evolved in cats instead of apes we & the planet might all be much better off...
First home buyers arnt rich they saved their money and made sacrifices
Australia also allows non-residents to buy property. A significant number of properties are being bought by overseas investors that have never lived and never intend to live in Australia; being kept vacant to be flipped for future profit. Inner city apartments on the east coast in particular are notorious for this.
They also park their money here in property because it's safer. Some countries have governments that can literally take your wealth from you. It's not safe for them to keep money in their own countries.
Should just move into those places. They'll never know LOL
Yep 😅
I agree with that
Not to mention visa opportunities, and I've seen a few residential get bought out by foreign grow and then they whack in a cash only business to the side of it with signage out the front like it's a slum 🎉
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Don't forget the average household income is pretax income, but the house price is aftertax money with stamp duty etc on top, so if you calculated it that way, would be more than 10-15 times
good point
Plus with very high cost of living, the amount you retain of said inome as savings for a house is lower than normal so this metric is further blown out. The avo on toast argument aged poorly.
@@nfc14g It's absolutely impossible to save for a house if you're renting too, you're forced to either live with your parents or share your living space with atleast two other people.
Taxes made from all things property should not be overlooked also. I never hear anyone talk about gov revenue multiplying merely by encouraging bubbles.
and that's just the cost to get the home, that's not factoring in stuff like owning it, i.e. council rate. Which of course won't be that much more, but it still adds to it.
My issue with the housing crisis is I feel it is all artificial. The government will do their very best to prevent prices going down.
Wait till a company like Blackrock exist there. Maybe after the bubble burst
@@sn5301679govt will do everything to prevent a bubble
And they are quite effective at it.
That's so true.
@@furry_homunculusall governments around the world are terrified if housing prices come down. They will do ampnythingnto keep the housing prices going up. Every govt has printed too much money. Or borrowed too much. They cannot shrink their govt. It needs higher prices and higher taxes to continue. The need more and more debt to continue to grow. If property values drop then we get mad and ask why we pay such high property taxes. Then they threaten all the money to help the old and poor will be gone if we don't pay super high taxes.
This video didn't mention that there is a state 'transfer duty' of property deeds when you buy a property, more commonly known as 'stamp duty' here in Australia. Each state is a bit different, but here in NSW for a house over $1,168,00 (which in Sydney is basically all of them). Stamp duty is $47,295 plus $5.50 for every $100 over $1,168,000 ON TOP of the principle to purchase the house. Then there's lawyer fees, moving fees, inspection fees, real-estate fees etc etc. So that can add another 100k easy to a 1.3 million house. This is another reason that state governments LOVE insanely expensive housing, because they make an absolute FORTUNE in stamp duty tax coffers, and they are hopelessly addicted to this $$$$ scheme.
I totally agree with this, there is no incentive for the government to stop the ballooning house prices or sales as it would negatively affect themselves and the taxes each state receives.
Finally someone else says this!
@@philus85 There is plenty of incentive. Pushing up home prices and therefore rents lowers the standard of living for people of a lower socio economic status. Those people then need more government support, which costs them heaps more.
We had a government that was phasing out stamp duty. We voted them out.
@@Foetoid2k6 How does that incentivise State and Local Politicians/bureaucrats? They just give themselves a pay rise to cope with higher living costs and more. The government support is mostly federal and they just tax small business and the workforce, all the while blaming each other as the cause.
My parents bought our 7BR family home in Melbourne 1988 for $138,000.
The fact that doesn't even equal a house deposit for a 3BR home these days is absolute bonkers
that would be the equivelant of buying a 7br house for 350k ish, pretty depressing
@@minutemangangplank8599 Yep. Massive block of land too, all on dad's $60k salary. Plus we had an onsite caravan in Anglesea and we didn't want for anything. That Aussie dream. It's so fucked up that my wife and I earn so much more but with kids and soaring rents, we can't put money aside for a $200k deposit.
@@PyjamaLlama it really feels like the ladder has been pulled up and the door slammed in our face aye
Enjoying that generational wealth? hahaha
@@minutemangangplank8599more like $750,000 if you look at average wages and interest rates
Well I'm glad the government spent $400 million on the referendum, that will definitely help with affordable housing 🤬🤬🤬🤬
China. $3.8 billion... Compared to the next highest investing country at $600 million. Foreign investment is definitely pushing up prices.
and when foreign investors pay no foreign investor tax on new-build properties. The government doesn't give a shit about Australian people.
@@tommygunTW1😂they do 4+12.5%
Wow 2% of the market, it's a really big problem!!!
knew i should have bought a house back in grade 3 😩
😂😂
When I first started working (1998), a 3br house was $200,000, but I was single and living in shared house accommodation earning under $30,000, so wasn’t able to enter the market then. Then market took off and even though I got higher paying jobs, housing prices were much higher by that point.
Maybe get rid of bogan culture ? Delete centrelink . Your parents should have prepare properties for you . Why you guys think every property owners are Chinese and Indians . We have correct mindset
@@nonotthaonewhat are you exactly saying? That it's unfortunate to be born white?
exactly dude, survival of the fittest, adapt or die. just admit aussie bogans are spoilt. stop complain. you have no right to protest about any issue, unless u have contributed to the financial stability of your family. before that , be quiet. SHHHH@@nonotthaone
There's also the quality of the properties which is falling because developers are getting squeezed and materials are getting harder to access, and there's the projected cost in property taxes which is probably going to keep getting raised because it's one of the only things the country has left to tap into. At the end of the day, it's worth considering whether you're getting value for money and what else you could do with that money, following everyone else chasing momentum just means you're part of the bubble.
Developers aren't getting squeezed lol, they are doing it intentionally to make more money rofl
The quality of Australian houses has always been appalling.
Everyone's being squeezed except the banksters and the politicians.
This is a typically superficial analysis. It focus is on symptoms rather than the disease. The disease is criminal governance and private corporate money supply control by banks given the power to PRETEND to create and issue AND periodically constrict the issuance of fiat debt tokens fraudulently called money by the banks and the Australian federal government.
In a huge EXTORTION RACKET the federal government COLLUDES with privately owned banks to gift to them the right to PRETEND to create and issue money AT INTEREST. That means that the banks STEAL the full amount of every loan amount they place in a so-called "borrowers" account PLUS compound interest on that imaginary sum. That's highway robbery! Even counterfeiters don't charge COMPOUND INTEREST on the money they steal, for years after the event, but banks do.
See eg:
ronchapman.substack.com/p/cosmic-consciousness-and-its-energetic
ronchapman.substack.com/p/the-incredible-mortage-scam-explained
ronchapman.substack.com/p/home-mortgages-and-bank-interest
ronchapman.substack.com/p/cashless-society
ronchapman.substack.com/p/the-fed-and-all-the-rothschilds-central
The reason Australia is becoming a dystopia in which young people cannot afford to buy a home and raise a family (a situation concealed by the government bringing in huge numbers of immigrants to fill the gap caused by Australians' failure to replace the population naturally), and that most people are miserable wage slaves scrabbling to live is because the federal government is a private corporation OWNED by the same plutocrats that OWN the banks, As a result, the government does what the bank owners tell them to do.
This crime is so huge that people refuse to believe it and videos like this REINFORCE that situation and control by the banksters.
IF people refuse to research this matter and reject governance by these criminals they must live with the consequences. IMHO endless whinging about the situation is no compensation for the misery.
so sad, all my neighbours here in Melbourne aren't even here. They live in china and invest their money in australian houses. Immigration has not helped.
same here in Perth. Doesn't help!
That's a very polite way of saying Chinese commies are taking over Aussie real estate lol
The government needs to implement a ban on foreign ownership and force mandatory buy backs. This would do wonders for the locals as it would increase stock and potentially lead to a decline in prices.
This is the same reason why Londons richest areas are empty
Immigration is a stain on the country, terrible idea, absolute retardation of the Australian government. Anyone Chinese shouldn't be allowed to buy any property unless they live in the country and are a citizen.
Melbourne really isn’t the best place to live, let alone in the world it’s not even the best in Australia. It is rampant with crime, both the people and the politicians. I’ve lived in Brisbane and Adelaide and Melbourne doesn’t come close to either, don’t believe the hype it’s normally younger people living in the city, partying etc thinking it’s great vs families wanting peace and quiet. I’ve been here 3 years and had several murders near me and I don’t even live in a bad area, people don’t even follow the basic laws on the road and the police presence is almost zero.
Melbourne is an absolute dump
I'm born and bred, Melbourne. In the 80's and early 90's, it was a magnificent city. That's changed. And it's changed, a lot. I left Melbourne 27 years ago. I go back now and can't believe the devastation. It's become a traffic congested cultural void. And everyone seems so darned angry and uptight. No one has the time of day, for anything.
The city is too big. Community is gone. It's just a bunch of ghettos now, that no one can really afford to live in.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 Melbourne is truly magnificent because I live there.
sHHH.... don't tell them that because then you'll give the halfwits an idea about moving out of this cancer infested shithole. Let them stay in their LiVeAbLe city.
@@davidbrayshaw3529Sydney syndrome... everyone is scared to make eye contact, a random smile is never reciprocated, and "excuse me, sorry" is a phrase that doesn't exist in anyone's lexicon anymore
My uncle in the 90s. A 24 year old apprentice sparky. Bought a house on his own in Richmond. Unbelievable
My mum and dad in the mid 80s bought a house and land in Sydney with cash...
@@adam88099 When they die you are rich.
Everything was more affordable before John Howard
@@OpblweTubs Government is in talks now to introduce an inheritance tax to stop this
@@adam88099bloke at my work built his house with 80k . .
China already bought more than half apartments everywhere around sydney and keeps them empty without renting out.. Thats the root cause of where all this rent crisis began in the first place
because owning a home in china impossible majorty public housing
My Indian Uber driver the other day was bragging about how many on his rich relatives have immigrated into Piara Waters in the last 4 years and how much money they have made on their properties that I could not even dream of purchasing at the moment. And our government has just made it easier for more to follow, scary times..
It's called replacement.
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As a home owner, id say prices went up hard due to the influx of overseas money, especially those that came here to "hide" their money in property, and most of them didnt care about the proce or just outbid the rest of us.
Demand and availability....yeah...30,000 new homes a year and a 300,000 immigration.
No chance of affording a place anymore.
Hey, I'm a kiwi and Perth looks good. I've got equity but if I sold here I'd get an average house at best, you guys pay high wages, kinda makes sense for us
Canada has put a ban on foreign investors to get the house prices down
The fact is- if the government stopped immigration last year we would be in a recession.
@@dominicwang5846 because people like me cruise over and pay a high price for a home except to us, coming out of Auckland, it's much cheaper than home so we drive up prices. Sorry....
Don't live in a city. Move out to the country
Australia needs to crack down on the artificial scarcity and thus artificially high prices of housing. This far and no further. However, every time the ruling party even thinks about doing that, figures of the realestate business and property developers and career landlords make sure they won't go through with it.
The BIGGEST driver of house prices BY FAR is the state governments restricting the development of new land for housing ... they haven't even developed enough land to cover population growth and immigration ... and their excuse ...SAVING THE ENVIRONMENT
I worry Brisbane is going to be another Melbourne and Sydney, already we have expensive house price, more toll road, more pay shopping etc..
Brisbane is built to be a small city. The infrastructure simply can't handle the boom it's had recently.
@@tommygunTW1 neither capital in Australia was built to be a big city. Sydney traffic is crippling, even with paying tolls.
@@InfinityIsland2203 i agree the roads are a nightmare. Melbourne was the only city i saw with any forward planning. Shame the weathers so bad
rampant crime, councils/local-members who are deaf to their constituents. I always say to look at the quality of the roads and public gardens in an area and it will show you if there's high levels of corruption in the local government or not.
brisbane is already 50% asian and increasing daily
I recently did some reading on the Japanese housing market (I have ancestry there) and their houses actually depreciate over 30 years. There are a lot of factors that go into it, and Japans economy is a a mess, but if Australia adopted that system then this would disappear overnight. And I know its a good idea because if you talk about it to Boomers they get defensive and mad because their artificial wealth will suddenly fall apart.
I suspect that is partly because of Japan's decreasing population. If we cut immigration, then our population will stop growing and houses might be more likely to depreciate over time. I don't think that's a good idea though.
I have no idea if it is possible for our government to make houses depreciate through policy. But I am generally concerned whenever the government gets too involved in the economy.
@@mitzee8621 their houses lose value due to the constantly updating earthquake-resistance standards.
But one thing none of my research mentioned is it also keeps primary industries going. Timber, metals, concrete etc are always in some measure of demand and blue collar workers always have something to do.
You don't have to be a citizen to buy a house in Japan but why would you? Foreign investors are big driver in Australian house prices and it's because they appreciate very aggressively and are often only left over for holiday homes for said investors. You wouldn't buy a house in Japan unless you absolutely need to.
A house in Tokyo is only USD$250k. That's about 2/3 of the value of a house in Brisbane, which has about 1/8th of the population.
Again, I know it's not a great comparison but there are additional perks to this system that nobody wants to talk about because it's too much of a change to the status quo. You're paying over $1 million in Sydney for a house built in the 1940s that has seen nearly zero maintenance, or about half that (after conversion) for a house in the largest metropolitan area in the world with some of the most efficient infrastructure.
And I agree, I don't like the government getting involved in things either but we can't continue to have a society that feels aimless and sees no value in working towards a goal when the basics our grandparents had are now considered "upper class things." That won't be good for us long term, and could lead to instability that will be worse than some people having to make a loss on some dog properties.
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It will be interesting to see if some houses in Australia depreciate due to climate change - flooding, bush fires, coastal erosion ?
@@mike_d_melb_music_fan5229 The IPCC 6th Assessment predicts about a 0.7m sea level rise around Australia by 2100. Given the general topology of Australian coastlines, I would be surprised if sea level rise on its own would have much impact on property value.
I'd need to understand coastal erosion more to be able to say anything confidently. A quick read suggests that around 39,000 buildings in Australia are within 100m of soft shorelines, which are apparently the types of coasts most susceptible to coastal erosion. In the worst case, there will likely be some depreciation in the value of coastal property, though informally, it seems like it might not be a very significant factor in the overall property market in Australia.
Bush fires have always been and always be an issue for property value. This and increased storm activity are probably the most likely to cause depreciation.
I'm also curious to see how our economy will respond.
This kind of videos are more interesting and educational than the previous ones. Keep doing this way.
I'm happy that you read and appreciated my comment❤️. I have been following you for many years and I am a fond follower of yours. I really want to continue seeing you discuss educational and interesting topics.
The other issue keeping prices high is the government not reducing immigration, maintaining record high immigration is ensuring the demand outweighs supply. And also governments acting slowly on development approval and land releases adds to this issue. We basically need the government to recognise they are the biggest part of the problem and do something about it, issue there is many MPs have property portfolios so you are asking them to take actions that will negatively impact their personal wealth... This is exactly why members of parliament should not be allowed to invest in the stock market or property because when they do it creates a conflict of interest.
Oh they know they are part of the problem, they don't care because being slow is profitable for most people working on the project.
This is why the indigenous communities never see a dollar of the tax supposedly garnished into programs to help them.
Absolutely right. Apparently we'll have a net migration of HALF A MILLION PEOPLE this year, which is a solid percentage of the existing population. We'll never have affordable housing with the insane levels of competition this amount of immigration brings.
it is the immigration that STOPS the economy going to recession. It is also the immigation that works hard and pays tax for centerlink@@Rollin8.0
Don't forget the biggest voting bloc are boomers whose net worth is tied to their house
They know they are part of the problem. They just have zero incentive to change.
Make it illegal for foreign entities to own real estate, and limit immigration.
Damage is already done
Limiting immigration would work if young Australians could afford to have children. You see the problem here? We HAVE to bring immigrants in in their current numbers.
@@DV-zv4ox I wonder who made that happen and why :)
Ya should put a rule for that.
We've brought in 600 000 k immigrants per year over the last three years. Thats more than the population of Tasmania each year.
The incompetence and corruption that runs through this administration are getting more ridiculous. I feel for people with disabilities not getting the help they deserved. Thank you Arleth Toledo, imagine investing $1000 and receiving $4,300 in a few days🇱🇷
If you don't find a means of multiplying your income you will wake up one day to realize you didn't plan good for yourself.
This is not the first time I have heard about Ms. Arleth Toledo and her exploits, but I have no idea how to contact her.
Please how can I reach her??🙏🏻
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My dad in the early 2000s managed to buy a home, supporting mum, and three kids at the same time.. he worked 2 jobs and it killed him but that would not even be close to being possible these days.
Same, my old man got a house in '95. He worked as a labourer. Sometimes on the weekends and I helped him. Paid it off in 10 years.
if you had 2 jobs these days you'd be lucky to even think about buying a house
I do that now days?
I bought a 300m² land and house package, $365,000, suburbs of Perth. I was earning $55,000 before tax at the time of getting the loan, with a $35,000 deposit, still had money to spare in my budget after the house was built. Now I earn $100,000 before tax, and very easily have the capacity to support a family. I started the process 4 years ago though.
I didn't think I could get a place, I was just curious what I could get and how much I'd need, so I looked around a few builders, found one with a good track record, and went in for a meeting just out of curiosity, came out of that meeting with a house on the way.
@@N3G4T3You’re lucky. I never thought about moving to Perth I’m from Sydney and would consider country NSW or VIC but even those prices have exploded. I once saw a shop for sale in some area in WA it may have been 2hr drive from Perth and it was dirt cheap.
Inflation hasn't finished going higher and rates will follow. Just look at the US10Y. What everyone is missing is who sets the price of a house, the bank. If they won't lend >1m anymore, then that sets the price. The house of cards is shaky. It's not complicated.
Yeah - agree. Risk pricing is the potential key factor. Another significant international event might be the last straw.
The new Labor government is currently allowing a notable influx of migrants to enter the Australian housing market, in addition to foreign investors who are funneling funds into Australian real estate, potentially for undisclosed purposes. This situation is exacerbated by a severe shortage of available homes. An issue that warrants attention is the active participation of companies like BlackRock and Vanguard, which are acquiring properties on a global scale and possess significant ownership stakes in at least 51% of all Australian banks. From my perspective, this scenario may be mutually beneficial for various stakeholders, but it could put the Australian population at a disadvantage.
Those same Blackrock and Vanguard companies are pressuring governments to "save the environment" by restricting the release of new land for housing ... which drives up costs for houses... and their investments
Immigration is bipartisan mate.
I think its a rort that no politicians have done anything about this. How many days or hrs did it take them to put covid restricitions in place, and how strict they were about it.
Why do you think they want to change it?
Labour did, they took it to an election ... and against all odds ScoMo won. I 100% believe it was because Labour were going to do something about investment properties ... that they lost an election everybody predicted they would win. The voters fkd it ...bunch of turncoat Labour ppl voted Liberal because they had or wanted to get an investment property
Because polititians usually have multiple investment properties, in addition to their ppor. So it is in their own best interests to enforce policies that keep the ponzi scheme going. ie, increase imigration to keep housing demand high.
Their primary voter demographic owns at least one property, many of those owning two or more. They keep their jobs by ensuring prices increase, regardless of whether they themselves own property or not.
The Greens are constantly working to change exactly this.
Yet 'Rich People' always claim that there at lots of jobs out there. Minimum wage jobs. But jobs. Just got to be poor and happy I guess. But as long as we all keep on paying rent, it supports these Rich People and their Dreams.
You will own nothing and you better be happy about it.
Move to the regions plenty of jobs and houses out there... Remember that Barnaby? Remember? What a Gronk... Who's gonna flip burgers and make coffees in Double Bay then huh?
Plenty of jobs... for migrants. Not so much for people who know how read their Award and can figure how dodgy their boss is.
I'm building my dream home in minecraft. But they made diamonds harder to find, so development time has increased by 30%. Also, lightning struck my wheat field, setting it ablaze, so I'm often hungry. And I play single player, so there is a significant factor of loneliness.
Work 70 hours weeks 6 days a week and no hope of buying a house
in 2022, mid pandemic my landlords took my rent from $250 a week to $450.. absolutley ruined my life
now im at my parents house as a 29 year old
the prospect of renting doesnt even go through my head anymore, i gave up looking at rentals online cause theyre just rediculous
you get excited for a crack house thats falling apart because the rent is reasonable (then the house still gets 30 offers)
Should have got a friend to move in, otherwise move to a different location with cheaper rent. $450 I still cheap lol.
Don’t live with a victim mentality.
Another factor hitting the Australian Housing Crisis is dodgy builders. I'm wondering how many homes will need to be torn down and rebuilt, or have really high repair bills in 10 years.
Yea but that’s the funny thing coz I’m a tradie and that didn’t use to be the problem u only had one here and there but now days they are everywhere. To many non Australians working in the trade and not doing there job properly because there is so much more work need to be done coz ppl r trying to move into the country.
@@jowhharvey8944 not to mention the bad inspectors who approve dodgy builds.
And then there's the VBA who don't properly punish dodgy builders
1st is to stop allowing foreigner buying property.
They wont let that happen as existing Aussie family fall of the mortgage cliff going from fixed rates they will let foreign investment rise and of our 600k immigrants this year many have sold off assets before coming here so are cashed up. The banks books are holding such high volume of mortgages on their books a 10% housing price fall it would put balance sheets in the red. They will do everything to protect the banks unfortunately we need a a National owned bank which would keep profits in Australia and provide loans for small business and housing unfortunately our 6 biggest banks have the same biggest shareholders BlackRock the biggest one.
I heard New Zealand has done this not too long ago.
@@clinton4161and just like removing negative gearing, it didn't do anything to bring down prices.
@@74_pelicans did it at least make prices more stable?
The net migration figure is currently a staggering 450k+ per annum adding heavy demand to property. It's really uneconomical to build housing to match excess demand. (Diseconomies of Scale)
Also just the sheer fact that land is a pretty finite resource. Prices are never coming down.
@@obliviouzyeah but Australia is huge. Land isn't as big of a factor as it seems
@@peekabooicancu Still is, because most of that land is inhospitable, and even more lacks the infrastructure and jobs to support that much immigration into their local areas.
@@brownie43212 It's not a land shortage that we'll ever have, it's a lack of resources that we face when expanding these suburbs further and further away from the coastline and large rivers and lakes. For example, if you doubled Bendigo's population from 120k to 240k, they'd have a diabolical water shortage - same goes for Ballarat... Australia's natural resources can support a maximum of around 30 million people, and we're most of the way there.
@@peekabooicancudo you really want to live in the middle of nowhere, where the nearest supermarket is a 2 hour drive away?
It only works if you're looking to be a farmer
Referencing EIU's liveability index is not a real reflection of how liveable the cities in those lists are. It's used for businesses relocating high-earning individuals and focuses on more on private healthcare and education than most people would consider including things like availability of 'high' quality housing (aka expensive homes). It is used for adjusting salaries for the cities in the list. Denmark being so high on the list is also laughable because they are very insular nation and generally very unwelcoming to outsiders.
Thanks for the property market detail and for helping me to understand the current property market. Awesome work!
I love Australia. I grew up here since I was seven, but the more and more I continue, the less I can see myself living here in the future. I definitely don't want to spend 30+ years paying of a home loan and living in near poverty while doing so. More and more of us are leaving, and I will be too in a couple of years. I've been looking at New Zealand South Island. Far more affordable
Lower Sth Island but very bleak costs are high and medical is tortuous and they have mass immigration and soon will open housing market to overseas buyers under Luxon who owns 7 houses.
New Zealands cooked
New zealand isnt too much better unfortunately
Sorry to burst your bubble but NZ are on the same path as Australia. Not as bad, and bc they have a smaller population it will take longer to worsen but the numbers don't lie
I was thinking of making NZ my back up plan. But I'm not so sure now after some of these comments. Is there anywhere left in this world?
Not only Australia and USA share this problem. On my playground which is Poland afford a own rent house or apartament is quite expensive not mention buy house on you own. Same situation in nearly entire EU.
all by design, they have record immigration during a housing shortage in many countries now
Late-stage neo liberalism at play here, things are going to continue getting exponentially hairier, fun times ahead.😂
What's sad is that all the young adults and mid to late teenagers have already given up on ever buying a house, it's out of reach for 90% of us so why bother. Even if the housing market was half of the value it is now, it's still scary. All we can hope now is that we never go homeless. I always thought owning a home was one of our rights to live but it seems I was wrong. At this point it'd be safer to move out into the middle of nowhere and build your own house with nothing but primitive tools but even land is absurdly priced. A single person can work there entire life and only have a fraction of what they need to afford a home... the real question is, will the housing market ever improve in that person's lifespan... Will the market ever drop to the point where a house is within reach for a single person who earns minimum wage? The fact that it doesn't seem like they even should be able to afford a house is part of our problem, who cares about the job itself, anyone who dedicates 40 hours a week to society at the very least deserves the right to live comfortably but that is not currently the world we live in.
I've been spreading this sentiment to my fellow millennial and gen Z friends, but my ideal living scenario now includes nothing but a motorhome towing a caravan. If my whole generation says "nah fuck that" to the current housing market and we all just move into mobile homes, we won't have to worry about this shit til retirement age + get to live wherever we want 🤷🏼♂️
Why does a single person need a house? I bought a unit on minimum wage in my 20s, but with that mindset with you looking at giving up won't help.
@@74_pelicans My personal lifestyle does not allow me to live in a unit, let alone how shit most of the "affordable" ones in my area are.
Homeless is free atleast. Better to be homeless then a slave to greedy banks and politicians that lead us to this mess in the first place.
@@4bidn1I'm with you, until I had kids. However, I managed to pay off most my loan while living in the van, partly thanks to my tenants and I bought in 2019 just before the prices went crazy. Bit of pain, long term gain 😅. You could cry about the house prices or you can find another solution. Nothing wrong with living in a van, id still be living in one quite happily if I didn't get pregnant.❤
Keep an eye on those construction companies in administration. See how many give themselves a new name and carry on.
You can’t anymore. Government gave everyone a Director ID. If your company gets liquidated, you can’t be a director of another one.
Well said & presented @hamish, keep up the great work.
Hey I did a little digging, the graph at 1:43 is actually wrong. Median house price in Sydney is $1,333,985 while average sydney salary is $80,000. Meaning it's actually 17.5 times salary, not 13-14.
You're assuming that first property purchase is a house! These days you need to get a modest unit you can afford and trade up over time
You forget the costs of actually owning a house across the term and also the fees incurred. Insurances, brokerage and legal fees, commissions, rates. All this makes owning a home alot higher.
Thanks for the informative video. Keen to follow progress on the housing situation in Melb. Being burned by crazy rent on a lousy townhouse but am ready to buy.. it doesn’t feel like it’s ever going to get cheaper here in inner Melb for a house and as you said, that population xwill be growing in the next ten years, so if I stay renting, I can expect my rent to go up too. I think I’ve gotta bite the bullet 😬
don't worry we'll have a full economic crash soon, and that'll reset the prices 🙃
I've been applying for flats/houses for over 3yrs!! Ive neen living in backpackers accommodation, Motel (too expensive long-termat $130per night, couch surfed for a year, now pay $350 for a room in a closed down hotel. When you go see a rental and 'rich well off' offers 6months in advance how can the average person EVER get accepted?!! F Air B&B too!! They get a week's rent in a night why would they rent it out. How can i ever get a home to be the nanny my grandchildren deserve with this crazy rental market atm!!
Foreign and corporate property investment should be banned and no more than 2 homes owned per person and no more than 5 per couple
Or 2 per person, 5 per couple based on every 1 child
You wouldnt need to open the gates for migrants if you were capable of producing capable talent at home.
No one needs 5 houses (even 2 is debatable). Tax the hell out of investment properties. Since the Howard government, Australia has actively incentivised property investment through the CGT discount.
@@Millez if my family didn't own investment properties that they worked hard for in the 90s and 2000s then i'd never be able to afford to move out. blame rampant chinese investors instead of australians looking out for their family interests.
@@handlehagglerUnfortunately it's not talent, it's open for whoever will work for less and not have an issue with it. Because at the end of the day it's much better than what they can get in their countries. All the talented people stay in their country because they're successful and can make it.
Firstly, thank you for making this video. My comment has a lot to do with housing scarcity. I understand the model you explain in your video definitely works in principle. The part that doesn’t seem to be working, that I’d love to understand, is how occupancy works. Are owners withholding properties for rent in a hope to drive up prices? In addition to this, I have seen property developers building luxury housing which people cannot afford. So it adds to the level that is unoccupied. Is this a factor in rent increasing also?
You are correct about empty properties being withheld from the rental market... My cousin attempted to list the three apartments he owns in Caulfield as he'd just finished renovating them at about the same time, and the property manager basically said "We already have a few properties in that area listed for rent and we don't want to put downward pressure on the price for those properties. I can put you on a callback list and reach out to you in a month or so when they are leased out, and then we can ensure we get the best rental figure for your properties". And when he suggested he'd approach another real estate agency, the realtor basically just said "We all know each other and have a shared file system to ensure we keep the prices in the area high". So yes, the system is absolutely rigged, and it's mostly being rigged by the real estate agencies working together to createa a false/manufactured scarcity. The overall issue is that there's actually PLENTY of empty rental properties, but they're being managed (and therefore withheld) by a tiny number of major real estate agencies... If every landlord in the country were to skip the middle man and list their property on REA and Domain themselves, the rental vacancy rate would go from the current 1.2% to around 4-5%...
It’s about 18-20 years since the last financial crisis. And the market often goes in cycles, look up the yield inversion curve. I think we are already facing this downturn in the market.
I think apartment and units will go down but I think house prices will at least maintain its price. Every developed country has gone through this before (house v apartment disparity). With each cycle, it will continue to widen this gap until only the ultra wealthy can afford houses and normal people are living in apartments.
@@dh7899 Yeah Maybe. But I disagree, if a real crisis comes house prices will fall like in 2008. Covid was not a real crisis. The state was lending us money for free and it was a forced recession. So we are not counting that.
House prices will fall. I’m sure, look at the interest rates.
@@chrisja1998 It just depends on who you think buying these houses. I will mention my doubt comes from the fact I work in the mortgage industry and data says otherwise. Most people paying these house mortgages are have lower principal payments or they are high income earners.
@@dh7899I can already see the price going down and the time for sales is taking longer.
Immigration. No fall is coming.@@chrisja1998
20 million migrants is all we need guys, trust me, than 50 after that!
I feel sorry for anyone what buys a new house in Melbourne tofu dregs type buildings. that are basically all the corners cut to make a house as quickly as possible. The houses in Melbourne wont last a few years. The money in the system is not enough to pay the debts in the Ponzi scheme
the money isn't enough? are you talking about the unlimited supply of money they can print whenever they want to get out of trouble or something else?
You are both correct. The current quantity of currency in the system will not extinguish all existing debts, but more currency can be created from greater and greater loan creation.
Same goes for the whole Greater Western Sydney area. The new build garbage quite literally is not built to last. Old homes from the 1800s in the inner areas still standing strong. The cookie cutter estates with poorly designed homes on postage stamp sized blocks of land are also not built with climate and the environment in mind. Black roofs as far as the eye can see. So many of them with huge west facing windows in the living area and upstairs bedrooms that turn into ovens on hot days. The 'solution' of split system AC for every living area and bedroom simply pumps more hot air outside, increasing the ambient temperature. We're about to head into an el nino summer, 50C coming to an outer estate near you!
Didnt you think about what would all tradies do after the homes get build?
Come back and fix em ofcourse xd
Made of hummus
Well put together video. I dont beleive the mortgage cliff actually exists on mass. There is only a very small percentage of the entire property market that maxed out their borrowing capacity two years ago to upgrade or purchases a home. This small section of the market will really struggle as they come off their fixed rate. I don't see this significantly impacting stock levels or property values.
A trippling of interest will hit alot of people who didn't max out their borrowing. Though i agree there won't be a cliff.
This is 100% a consequence of currency debasement. It's no coincidence the money supply chart has the same shape as the housing price chart.
When there's more dollars chasing after the same relative supply of scarce desirable assets the price goes up.
The problem is, those new dollars do not get distributed evenly (see cantillon effect).
And debasement intensifies whenever America gets involved in yet another war
Well, that, and the massive taxation that is used to recuperate the costs of all the inflation but of course, we still run deficits.
Sorry, but this country is just an open air prison that taxes you out the ass.
I’ve noticed that the message is always, “enough to survive.”
It’s never, “what if I want to work more and become wealthy, and not get punished for making jobs or trying to improve my own life.”
Why is that never part of the conversation, I wonder?
@@BringMoreDread I see we and the rest of the western world are following the American model; much to our extreme detriment.
@@rogerc6533 FIAT currency has been around a long time, and it always goes to zero for the same reason.
It is printed to pay for everyone’s stuff, because people want free this and that, and don’t want to pay for it.
Australia has done something different where we tax people to pay for all this welfare, both public and private, but doing that means that there will never be any grass roots innovation because why bother when you get taxed to pay for someone else’s school, medicine, place to live etc.
The governments around the world can talk all big, about fighting inflation but it’s the people who have caused and the government spending is the problem.
The government being corrupt is just a feature. As much as Australians don’t like America, the American system of hierarchy seperate power is superior to what we have here.
The problem is, when you fill the government with people who will bribe the populace with money, that isn’t theirs, you can’t expect much.
I’m a small government guy, there isn’t much of that down here in Oz, the problem, as you mentioned, is that this “cucked” communism is encroaching everywhere, so there isn’t anywhere worth going to.
We are boned, enjoy the decline.
@@rogerc6533 We need a cap on owner occupier mortgage rates. Perhaps +0.25% of the official interest rates
The issue is zoning in my opinion. It encourages urban sprawl and discourges mixed use. Change regulations and zoning laws and our cities could be more like Tokyo affordability.
Prices will drop, but every home owner now will oppose this, as this will devalue their investments.
That's what happen when politicians use the housing market as a cover for the real economic state of their country.
I'm in my 50's. I started playing house in 2003. Interest only for a few years, then depression sunk in. Sold after the divorce, I lost everything except my ability to complain. lol. I had no chance of entering the market again back then, let alone now. Once you have employment gap, you are out of the game. My B Eng, didn't help. If it wasn't for my parents, I could be homeless in QLD.
Sorry to hear mate, it's rough at the moment.
Stop international buyers .. and maybe a good tip look outside of Sydney n Melbourne
It’s unfortunate. I’m part of the younger generation who will never own a home thanks to inflation, immigration and greed. I don’t smoke or drink or indulge in expensive stuff, I work my butt off everyday just like my partner does, I don’t have a flash brand new car or the best of everything, and I sure as shit don’t go out for breakfast of smashed avocado on toast either. Hard working and genuine people like us are the ones who lose at the end of the day - we get hit with rego rises, taxes, bills going up and little to no return for anything. It’s hard. It’s starting to make me feel depressed - and I don’t usually get like this. If you mention the difficulties with trying to buy a house to anyone older than us, we get reprimanded that we need to “not want the best of everything” but hey, not all of us young people do that. Is it so hard for housing to be a fundamental human right for Australian people? Or is it a greed thing? Its ridiculous!
the government greedy ! vote libertian party and homes will become more affordable not socialist or communist leaders
Thanks Hamish great Video. My question is, what happens when the cost of property is so high that people can't afford it even with full time job? As our wages have not gone up much.
That happened 5 years ago. Now we have mass immigration. Some will have the money to buy, others will rent
You will own nothing and be happy
My kids live in Brisbane and rent has gone up close to 50% past 2 years so I don't know where Govt numbers come from when you see rental increase of 4.5% for the year in the CPI numbers, just what world are they living in, not the real one that's for sure.
Have no fear. Recession is almost here! Central banks cut rates as asset valuations crash and the cycle starts again 😅 average property prices will become more affordable relative to now but remain expensive for the average Joe and Jane. If Joe and Jane don’t lose their jobs in recession
Each recession just puts more and more of the wealth of the economy in the hands of the 1% it never works as a full reset
errr you dont own a house right, if recession kicks in, people lose house and that's far worse than housing gonig up
@@chairmanzia3556 Homeowners hurt to see house equity go down but don’t lose their homes. People with unaffordable mortgages do and foreclose. Supply goes up, demand goes down, house prices come in.
Sadly your info is a bit off. I have 2.09% expirying shortly, not the 2.2 2 yr fixed you list as "best!", with 6.04 on newer loans, not the 6.5% you mention at the beginning of the video.
I acknowledge these are small variations, but they add up and for me undermine the validity of other information you share
The 'average' property price is also somewhat irrevelant for first home buyers. Your first home is something you can afford. Once you are on the wheel there should only be adjustments between properties. eg 320-400k will get you a 2 bed apartment in Kingswood/penrith NSW. Achievable for you and your partner. 4-8 years later, when your first child is going to school you can then adjust your housing as required since your property value will grow inline with other properties.
Dont get me wrong, I dont know how my kids will afford property in the future. I rented at 19, bought at 28. I am now 46, and they are 11 and 13.... But while 'average' house prices are better than 'the most expensive house in sydney is $20m, how can you survive!', it doesnt give as much useful info as it could
Over the ditch, here in NZ, situation is the same, buying, building and renting is a disaster too, Auckland and Welligton the worst. Crazy inflation in all 4, of those areas too, at same time, all at once, Buying is hugely unaffordable, renting is worse tho Edit: it's cheaper to pay a mortgage payment each month or year, then rent in many places. I know of 100 people looking through rentals on open home days and offering bribes and higher rents to landlords, to secure a rental. Then giving up and buying a car to live in or but as a group asset. Single or a couple, on good, double incone of 60-70k getting no where. It's a mess for same reasons you speak of
I’m in owner of a large property next railway station in major road, in Sydney, I’ve been waiting on a local council state government for the past seven years to do the LEP if going to build next to infrastructure we need to get the roadblock out of their way so we can get low rentals in lower prices we have no hope if it takes this long for governments to get their act together
We imported 600,000 new people last year...
I work for a bank in the call centre, we get a lot of people in this scenario. It's really hard to see what choice to make, so my partner and I are renting instead of commiting to buy and growing our money in other ways.
Don't forget that if ur not careful, the things you buy will end up owning you.
Awesome video. Breaks down the different factors impacting the crisis really well.
Even if you have $1 million in cash to buy a property. You will then need $60,000 to pay the Victorian government just for the privilege of buying it, aka Stamp Duty. Then insurance, maintenance, council rates etc will be an annual expense of $15-$20 thousand dollars every single year for the rest of your life. And politicians want us to blame these greedy landlords for needing to put up the rent.
Keep crying passively building wealth off land sucks money out of the economy.
You don't actually care about addressing the housing crisis you just want the government to remove barriers that make it harder for you to get more investment properties.
20k a year? Are you doing bathroom Reno's every six months?
Yes, CBA offered me 6.5% recently.
Bought a little block of land in a rural town just before covid for 10k. Got offered 60k for it not long ago.
which suburb
People expecting interest rates to stay at near 0 for all of time is extremely dangerous.
good vid, cheers mate. being in perth, it's a bit different but the core problem is still the same
Did you know that there are families from phillipines who get government housing in Australia and they work for 6 months of the year and then for the other 6 months they go back to phillipines and work, get cash money, have a holiday while their government housing house sits empty here in Australia for that 6 months while we have families and children living in their cars or tents or nothing !Disgusting! Shame on those people
Great video! Please also note that when a housing market crash would happen people who are planning to buy using a mortgage will miss out on buying a “cheap” house due to the reluctancy of banks to lend money… only out right buyers or buyers with minimal mortgages will be able to benefit…
In reality Housing density needs to go up not everyone is looking to start a family and move to the suburbs + new city cores away from CBD’s
Or solution that would address the urgency better is: the government could revert their years of incompetence by building post world war 2 housing projects of course with modern amenities and infrastructure to increase inventory.
The Australian housing market is going to be one of the biggest massacres in history. We are headed for a deep recession, the worst part is that it won't be a deflationary recession but a repeat of the 70's 'stagflationary' recession, only worse, due to obscene levels of debt now compared to the 70's.
The US 2 and 10 year yields are about to revert back to positive. In every single case since WWII when the 2 and 10 year went from positive to negative(inverted) and then reverted back to positive, a recession began within 3 months.
The worst part that I mentioned about this time is that the signal is being triggered not as the 2 year yield is declining, but as both the 2 year and 10 year yields are rising, BUT, the 10 year is rising faster.
This is why gold has moved up so much in the last 2 weeks. It isn't due, as most think, to war, it is due to gold anticipating the coming recession. Gold outperforms in recessions rising anywhere from 50 - 100%.
The implications for the housing market with a combination of rising rates, inflation and unemployment and stagnant/declining wages are going to be catastrophic.
Of interest, Rick Santelli, the only CNBC regular I have any respect for due to his nearly 5 decades in the bond pits, warned 2 weeks ago that the US 10 year rate could hit 13.5-14% within 7 years.
And don't think for ONE single moment that central bankers can lower rates this time around because as Santelli pointed out, bond vigilantes/traders will ultimately determine what happens to rates. The Fed and other central bankers are about to be destroyed for decades of fiscal incompetence and rate shenanigans.
Moral of the story. Gold is going to go ballistic into 2030 just as it did in the 70's along with rates and inflation.
I agree fully with this, so do you think this will be a deflationary event for Aussie houses or thing houses stay the same except people won't be able to afford the interest repayments etc.. thanks for you take.. been watching the yield curve also listening to TXMC on RUclips. He's on the ball with this stuff majorly
Yes agree,
Wildcard,
immigration policies, as a purposeful destabilizing effect , like a certain cough etc
Added note,
Apparently the more citizens a country has , the more it can borrow,
Hence the immigration .
Unmitigated immigration, insufficient housing construction... no one's going broke anytime soonl
@@davidbrayshaw3529 Got news for you. The US Fed has lost control of rates. Mortgage rates at 10% will destroy the housing market. And 10% is probably conservative.
Powell warned Biden again last week that the US has to stop spending because the deficit is now unmanageable
@@davidbrayshaw3529 I hear you, but supply constraints alone won't matter if the general economy stalls and people can't find enough work to fund their extreme mortgages due to significant interest rate rises causing that stall.
Critics on your methodology:
A really world-wide study would be the UBS Real Estate Bubble Index, in which Top10 cities are: Zurich (CH), Tokyo(JP), Miami (US), Munich(GER), Frankfurt (GER), Hong Kong (CN), Toronto (CA), Geneva (CH), LA (US), London (UK). Syndney would come in P16 then. Moreover, while the quality of life may be one good reason to move to Australia, the EIU data is inconsistent with other survey. That s mainly because they differ in their methodology. The Mercer's QoL would for example give the following Top10: Vienna (A), Zurich (CH), Vancouver (CA), Munich (GER), Auckland (NZ), Dusseldorf (GER), Frankfurt (GER), Copenhagen (DEN), Geneva (CH), Basel (CH).
Conclusion:
I would argue along your lines of argumentation that the housing crisis is affecting Australia as well as all (!) major western countries. Yet, I dont think that studies you quote are suitable to prove your special point on extremely high prices in Australia. The demographia data, in particular, is not about the least affordable cities in the world! It is just 8 (!eight!) nations.
So to conclude, the housing crisis has not affected Australia overproportionally. However, it is a problem that the complete western world has to deal with, and was mainly triggered by low interest rates for over a decade. But we will most probably see falling prices in the next few years since demand for raw building materials in China has plummeted and interest rates have cut into financing costs of potential buyers' budget.
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@@andrefontaine3058 Can't wait to get to where you at. I put 10% in my 401k/Roth when I get paid, which I don't really watch. Then I put $400/paycheck in a dividend portfolio. They say the first $100k is the hardest.
loved that graph, never seen it before but it makes a ton of sense
We need to get rid of the politicians holding the house prices up with their policies and denie immigration for a few years and also denie non citizens buying property.
Thank god you have no position of power, you would fk this country back to the Stone Age.
what does denie mean?
We tried.
Last election (not the most recent one) had labor try and get rid of negative gearing - population said no.
Unfortunately a decent chunk of our population has their money held up in property investments, so they hate decreasing house prices. It's not just politicians, there are people actively fighting to put them there.
And Labor claims it wants to build 1.2m homes in 5 years..😢
labor is saying the private property section will build 1.2m homes in 5 years not them, they just approve things and give incentives. labor loves to take credit for things you see. we need greens in government
@@arielbeninca3658 ooh don't let the rustedons hear you say that! But yeah, for a PM who rode into the top job on the story of growing up in public housing, he certainly seems to have no interest in, you know, making more public housing so we don't have hundreds of thousands of people on the waiting list for years at a time. Don't even get me started on the DSP aspect of his upbringing
@@arielbeninca3658 oh yeah the greens are gonna do such a good job, voting down enviromental legislation because its not good enough for them. to the greens, its better to do nothing than try.
This is also not really a problem that can just be solved by building more homes anyway.
Who is going to be able to afford those homes? People who already own property and can borrow against it, or just people have very deep pockets and expect to make a return on buying an investment property. It might take a little bit for the landlords to absorb all the new buildings, but building more houses with the current system in place just results in more houses for people owned by people who aren't going to live in them.
honestly makes me so greatful for the things i have and the people in my life, couldent imagine how hard it is out there for some people
I bought a dump in the country outright with my 20% deposit, the value almost doubled by the time the contracts went through. We have spent around $120k renovating and now its worth more than 3 times what we’ve paid for it. If you can work from home get out of the major cities and go bush. Our experience has been amazing.
Stable and planned immigration is fine. But not this knee-jerk reaction we have seen from the Albanese government where they have dramatically increased the amount of vias being issued and it has put huge strain on housing, infrastructure and healthcare. The current government is only worsening the quality of life for Australians.
i like how the spec went from average income to average 'household' income.. we must be like close to 20x average income. single ppl are screwed... but dont worry if you cant afford rent, just move to Bundaberg QLD where the mayor said its fine to come live in a tent in the park under the bridge.. hehe
Makes me feel a little better as the breadwinner, I am the household income, and we are doing ok compared to average
Plenty of cheap city apartments for single people. they actually often don't go up in price
You forgot to mention the fact development companies artificially keep places empty to reduce supply and increase demand!
Lately you had put very good videos! This is the best so far. Congrats
After 2008, people just going to baghold real estate
people are looking at perth now because it has the most “affordable” houses like do not come until we have our shit together, fastest rent increases by % in thr country, and a vacancy rate that is approaching 0.5%… all the demand from over east and overseas is choking the city
It's utterly insane! Despite high interest rates the market continues to pump.
Melbourne’s biggest rental real estate issue is all the Chinese that have flocked here and run out rent prices up through the roof in the city an dinner suburbs
Awesome and informative content brother, very well structured and put together, well done 👌
in SA, theres a auction for a simple home near us. got sold 980,000! meantime my mum is building her big house valued the same. I do think buyers do joint accounts to avail for loans. im not a broker im just guessin
I'm pretty confident that if our borders remained closed - the housing market wouldn't be anywhere near as bad as it currently is...
It's not a one facet problem sadly, yes the immigration (mainly the boat people and chinese nationalists) is a part of it but there are also strategies at play in the financial sectors meant to extract wealth from the middle class through their property.
@Rexhunterj you can't fix supply if you stop increasing demand
Lol Australia would stop existing if you close the borders...
@@hiiamhi.23its the students not the workers coming in they add very little to economy
It's 1000 per cent immigration. Sydney got very affordable during the pandemic. Landlords had to adjust to the income of city. People try to talk it down. But it's clearly the majority of the problem.