Can we just appreciate how this man hops into a full race car with probably not much practice in it and pulls off a fast, clean lap? Channel is going in the right direction!
Hah, okay, I'm a subscriber, and actually didn't recognise you yesterday. But I was the instructor wearing the hat with the rubber duck print on it (with the red GR).
it would be awesome if the comparison was done with exactly the same tyre/tyre compound on both cars, however that is a very expensive endeavour so maybe next time haha. great video as always
The E36 looks pretty dialled in, real nice driving as well! That you can jump in to car and pedal like that is a testament to your talent. M135i does ok for what it is too. Track car when?
amazing vid! i have an F20 bmw myself and i HATE the floaty handling of it so i added a front strut brace and a rear chassis brace too both relatively inexpensive and its a NIGHT AND DAY difference in the driving experience! highly recommend doing it to yours, it would take those corners with ease at the track.
Thanks man yeah I've heard a lot of people adding bracing to the chassis. One of the M3 owner's mates said he drove one and it felt like the front was disconnected from the back. I don't really notice that trait, but any chassis stiffening mods are good
Comparing 3 or 4 generations older car with a very high performance "road car" that has 320hp? On what planet does such a comparison show a difference between race and road cars?
Well, yeah tbh the sequential gearbox and totally stripped interior are a bit overkill, a street car with coilovers, slicks and decent brakes will be not far off the pace
@@KiwiCarLife 100% this is true. A modified street car with decent and not too expensive mods and slicks will get close to the times of the M3 but if you are looking for ultimate performance and times and 10th's matter then you have to spend the money and the time to get there. The sequential is a circa $30K mod to the M3 and changed lap times by around a second! All power to the vast majority of guys that race modified street cars week in and week out and have a blast doing it.
@@KiwiCarLife yes, but if you go on trackday, you can put slicks on there too... or at least semislicks. Not a problem, nothing a stock car cannot have. And it makes the most difference.
actually for the ammount of tuning the M3 got, I think our winner should be the M135i ! 10 second is nothing! Get sticky tires, stage 1 tuning, remove spare wheel and rear seats, and it will lap the same with not NEAR the mods the M3 got. The torque of the M135i and its better weight distribution, balances the suspension and weight difference... Don't get me wrong, thats all for a single lap, long term of course the track tuned car will do better!
Interesting observations. I agree that the M135 did really well and it's subjective to say a racer is better than a road car but I think it might be a stretch to conclude that with the mods you are suggesting the M135i would get into the 14's. My (educated) guess is that slicks would give 3 seconds per lap and a light tune and lightening another 2-3 seconds. This would put the M135i in at around the 1.19's, maybe 1.18's. The reality is that every 10th of a second below 1.17 is very hard earned and normally requires $1000's in modifications and track tuning to achieve. Of course the best way to loose time is to be a better driver and in this case both cars were very well driven by the same man. Well done Liam and excellent video. Maybe next time we will get you out in an actual race!
Yeah would have to agree with Richard. Even with slick tyres, tune and a bit of weight saving, I still wouldn't expect the M135i to get close to 1:14. That M3 is so light and nimble. You'd have to shed a good 200-300kg and at that point you'd basically be turning the M135i into a race car anyway. 10 seconds is a truck load of time to make up. Think about F1, if you're even 0.5s off the pace you're uncompetitive. Shaving 10 seconds will take more than just better tyres and a bit of weight saving.
@ im an f1 fun myself and looking forward to a very interesting season... maybe i was a little TOO EXCITED for the M135i... :P although if you do turn the M135i into a racecar, it WILL be faster :P
Hey bro, been watching your channel for awhile from Auckland. :) Doing a great job btw, keep it up!!! I'm thinking about upgrading to either BRZ/GT86 Manual(I know it's bit underpowered but...) or M135i Auto (i know its bit heavy but..) I've been driving a lot of FWD or AWD in my collection of cars in my past... I never owned RWD car(s) in my collection of owning one before. From your perspective, I'm going to daily and also track it more often so. What's your suggestion? I've been eyeing on 8spd ZF M135i since you own one and was gonna ask how's the reliability after been tracking it or daily it. Any recommendation will be great :)
Hey man BRZ vs M135i is a pretty easy choice imo. The M135i is much faster, has way more overhead for modifications, is already 6 seconds a lap faster on track out of the box and is a way nicer and more dailyable car with heaps of features. BRZ is potentially a little more reliable, but if you do your research into N55 common failure points like the valve cover seal, crank hub guard and making sure you overfill the oil a bit because they don't have a baffled sump, I wouldn't expect you to have any issues. Mine's been reliable
@@dingus3182 I was wondering that, but 4AGE didn't have "lift". The 20 valve Silver or Black tops have VVTi, but no lift. Unless he meant 2ZZGE, then yes lift is present.
Can we just appreciate how this man hops into a full race car with probably not much practice in it and pulls off a fast, clean lap? Channel is going in the right direction!
Haha thanks man. Was good fun out there!
And the fact he’s talking to a camera as well!
@@buddahae86 yeah
Hah, okay, I'm a subscriber, and actually didn't recognise you yesterday. But I was the instructor wearing the hat with the rubber duck print on it (with the red GR).
Hello!
it would be awesome if the comparison was done with exactly the same tyre/tyre compound on both cars, however that is a very expensive endeavour so maybe next time haha. great video as always
I know... would have been cool but yeah not cheap!
You're driving really well and still have the time to give us a detailed explanation of the car's characteristics!
Awesome video Liam! You're a good driver!
Thanks!
Contents just getting even better. Love it
Thanks man!
That E36 reminds me of listening to the British touring car championships in the 90s so good. Brilliant episode mate.
Yeah man it's intoxicating!
Simply an awesome vid mate!
Your driving was super on point a joy to watch!
Thanks man!
Man,, I need that e36. that would definitely make all my problems go away and finally be able to enjoy life. It would make everything seem worth it.
Great video! Track car content is always enjoyable!
_👏🏼super content man and the glint in your eyes when driving a race car says it all, great comparison_
Thanks man
Another great video. That tuned m3 is awesome
Yeah man super cool aye!
Great video mate, super high quality. gave me top gear vibes big time!!
Thanks man!
Great driving in the m3! awesome content
Thanks!
What a video. Great content recently!
Thanks man!
Your content just keeps on getting better!
What tires are on the M135i?
Thanks man! Oh they're dealership specials haha. I don't even know the brand.
I'm more than a little jealous, that looks so fun
That looked like an awesome lap. Great video!!
Super fun!
I miss my m135i. It was stage 1 so around 370 bhp. It was really fast and watching this video makes me miss it so much.
Yeah man they’re great cars are
Great video!!
Thanks man!
the loud interior and gearbox noises of the race car really make it
Yeah man super cool aye!
The E36 looks pretty dialled in, real nice driving as well! That you can jump in to car and pedal like that is a testament to your talent.
M135i does ok for what it is too.
Track car when?
Yeah man super well set up! Haha my gf has already said no to a track car!
good driving mate
Thanks!
amazing vid! i have an F20 bmw myself and i HATE the floaty handling of it so i added a front strut brace and a rear chassis brace too both relatively inexpensive and its a NIGHT AND DAY difference in the driving experience! highly recommend doing it to yours, it would take those corners with ease at the track.
Thanks man yeah I've heard a lot of people adding bracing to the chassis. One of the M3 owner's mates said he drove one and it felt like the front was disconnected from the back. I don't really notice that trait, but any chassis stiffening mods are good
Great drive and comparison!
Thanks! 👍
nice heel toe downshifts super smooth
Thanks!
Id be far too scared to push the m3 that hard, great to see you trust your skills and then correct well when you push it too far
Yeah I guess I quickly realised how well the car was set up and so felt confident in pushing it. It's a fantastic drive!
The M Lite did alright! Makes me wonder what time it could achieve with some semis and lsd
Yeah surely under 1:20
@KiwiCarLife what did the 130i do time wise? I'm too lazy to find the video lol
So Good!
Yessss
Wowwie that’s cool they let you drive the m3 !
Yeah man! Richard is a legend
Jägermeister M3 now that's a proper race car
Yessss
Comparing 3 or 4 generations older car with a very high performance "road car" that has 320hp? On what planet does such a comparison show a difference between race and road cars?
thanks for an interesting comparison..
All good!
More racecars please
I will try
so a slightly modify street car with handling mods can catch up in reality and only cost 1/4 of the race car?
Well, yeah tbh the sequential gearbox and totally stripped interior are a bit overkill, a street car with coilovers, slicks and decent brakes will be not far off the pace
@@KiwiCarLife 100% this is true. A modified street car with decent and not too expensive mods and slicks will get close to the times of the M3 but if you are looking for ultimate performance and times and 10th's matter then you have to spend the money and the time to get there. The sequential is a circa $30K mod to the M3 and changed lap times by around a second! All power to the vast majority of guys that race modified street cars week in and week out and have a blast doing it.
Nice vid. M135i needs an LSD and some slicks to be anywhere. Still never going to be close to a stripped out and rigid race car. Good driving though!
Yeah definitely man
unless you have the same tires, its not an apple to apple comparison
Yes but I guess that's the point. A road car is naturally going to be on road tyres too
@@KiwiCarLife yes, but if you go on trackday, you can put slicks on there too... or at least semislicks. Not a problem, nothing a stock car cannot have. And it makes the most difference.
Hey! When about was this filmed? looks hot there!
On the weekend just been. Got up to 28 degrees. Very warm!
@ man you pump those videos out quick, committed
Very cool.
Thanks!
Would love to see you review a stock e36
That would be cool! Done the Z3M coupe with the same engine and E46 M3 though. Imo, the Z3 and E46 are better than the E36.
actually for the ammount of tuning the M3 got, I think our winner should be the M135i ! 10 second is nothing! Get sticky tires, stage 1 tuning, remove spare wheel and rear seats, and it will lap the same with not NEAR the mods the M3 got. The torque of the M135i and its better weight distribution, balances the suspension and weight difference... Don't get me wrong, thats all for a single lap, long term of course the track tuned car will do better!
10s is nothing? Okay.
Interesting observations. I agree that the M135 did really well and it's subjective to say a racer is better than a road car but I think it might be a stretch to conclude that with the mods you are suggesting the M135i would get into the 14's. My (educated) guess is that slicks would give 3 seconds per lap and a light tune and lightening another 2-3 seconds. This would put the M135i in at around the 1.19's, maybe 1.18's. The reality is that every 10th of a second below 1.17 is very hard earned and normally requires $1000's in modifications and track tuning to achieve. Of course the best way to loose time is to be a better driver and in this case both cars were very well driven by the same man. Well done Liam and excellent video. Maybe next time we will get you out in an actual race!
Yeah would have to agree with Richard. Even with slick tyres, tune and a bit of weight saving, I still wouldn't expect the M135i to get close to 1:14. That M3 is so light and nimble. You'd have to shed a good 200-300kg and at that point you'd basically be turning the M135i into a race car anyway.
10 seconds is a truck load of time to make up. Think about F1, if you're even 0.5s off the pace you're uncompetitive. Shaving 10 seconds will take more than just better tyres and a bit of weight saving.
sharn
@ im an f1 fun myself and looking forward to a very interesting season... maybe i was a little TOO EXCITED for the M135i... :P although if you do turn the M135i into a racecar, it WILL be faster :P
Hey bro, been watching your channel for awhile from Auckland. :) Doing a great job btw, keep it up!!!
I'm thinking about upgrading to either BRZ/GT86 Manual(I know it's bit underpowered but...) or M135i Auto (i know its bit heavy but..)
I've been driving a lot of FWD or AWD in my collection of cars in my past...
I never owned RWD car(s) in my collection of owning one before.
From your perspective, I'm going to daily and also track it more often so.
What's your suggestion? I've been eyeing on 8spd ZF M135i since you own one and was gonna ask how's the reliability after been tracking it or daily it.
Any recommendation will be great :)
Hey man BRZ vs M135i is a pretty easy choice imo. The M135i is much faster, has way more overhead for modifications, is already 6 seconds a lap faster on track out of the box and is a way nicer and more dailyable car with heaps of features. BRZ is potentially a little more reliable, but if you do your research into N55 common failure points like the valve cover seal, crank hub guard and making sure you overfill the oil a bit because they don't have a baffled sump, I wouldn't expect you to have any issues. Mine's been reliable
Just gave my car a wheel alignment 😂
Very nice
Wouldve gone back to manfield with the rolla for the driver training but am in japan haha
Next time man!
hell yeah
Yessss
Yoo did u go to hard park?
I did not
maybe you should have take the same car..
As in stock M3 vs track M3? Had to work with what I had
bro got a ae86 na fully forged 210bhp at the wheels with the twin cam 4ge she rips at 9km 6.2 that cross over hust befor lift engagement 🥰😍🥰😍🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲
What?
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@@crampynzI think he’s talking about vvti crossover just when the car comes into its power band and switches to the high lift cam lobes
The username came in clutch to explain the comment lol
@@dingus3182 I was wondering that, but 4AGE didn't have "lift". The 20 valve Silver or Black tops have VVTi, but no lift. Unless he meant 2ZZGE, then yes lift is present.