No I never noticed your hands. Most people talk with their hands. Don't change anything you're great. The only thing I noticed was your hair color. Which is pretty. Have you ever done a case that is 50 + years old? It's unsolved Gabby I'll send you a link. But I don't know where to send it? Through your you tube Channel. You can decide if it's interesting enough to do or not? It has always bothered me that is had never been solved. Not one lead. I thought about sending it to Mike from that chapter but I thought you'd find it interesting..
Giving the 23 year old man privacy is one thing but the mother should have told him that she was also going to be using the bathroom and then waited for at least 10 minutes and then knocked on the door and called for him to see if he was alright or in need of any kind of help depending on the type of injuries that he had.
People were going in and out of the bathroom. If someone had been bleeding out on the floor those people would have reacted. There was zero reason to think he had gone missing. The family had probably had interactions like this a hundred times if they went out together. I've been in arguments with my family because half the time they hover and half the time I could be dead on the road and they wouldn't even notice because they were engrossed in conversation with my aunts and uncles. They didn't KILL ME ffs they are just human beings who tend not to follow me into the bathroom.
I don't know, the parents really don't sit right with me. I don't blame the police for looking at them, but I do blame the police for not doing it until 28 years after the fact😒
I have the same feeling about his mom, maybe not so much his dad. Did anyone see then together at the beach that day? Did anyone witness them at the restroom? Why would she just assume he started walking home? Why would she not have asked someone to check on him? Why would she not have tried yelling in to the restroom for a response? As much as I hate victim blaming, I can't help but to think she really didn't pay any attention to her son. First he gets hit by a truck under her watch, then he goes missing under her watch. Very odd.
No. Very recent UK doc said he was sighted a day later with an older man ( who matched his Dad's description ..... ). He'd just won an apprenticeship award for the disabled & maybe was looking to live a more indelendant life despite his disability. He'd also started going to the local pub alone & come back drunk a few times.... Argument that went wrong over his new socialising? He had a limp & an arm he couldn't straighten. Maybe he fell, drunk, while arguing...
@@sarahholland2600 I just think the police got on it fairly quickly, and I find it hard to believe no one could recall a young man with a limp walking on the beach with an older woman. It's like "Hey, there is a young man walking with an older woman. Wait... He has a limp. He's handicapped. It must be his mother" It may not be right but that's how peoples brains work. They would have stuck out.
Yea I have a "feeling" that they never went for a walk on the beach, but need to see more on the case. This is the first time I've heard anything about it.
I live near here and there are a lot of cliffs. It is a seaside area, you can catch a bus up to Whitby from here. I think that he may have had a tragic accident. If it was high tide at the time he could have been swept away which is why his body has not been found.
@@sarahholland2600 Yes, I hope he will be found. Unfortunately though, if he was swept out to sea at high tide his body may have been partly eaten by sharks and other sea dwelling creatures. By now what would be left of him would be decomposed and would require dna identification or dental if available. There are cases like that all the time...... There are quite a lot of reports of human feet and ankles washing up still inside the shoes. After decomposition the ankle bones separate from the leg as the remains are smashed around in the ocean against rocks or waves. I have lived by the sea most of my life. I hope he is found but in all probability this may be what happened.
@@sarahholland2600 often times the ocean doesn't give up bodies. The soft tissue gets eaten by sea creatures. The bones seperate and often end up on the ocean floor. The only body part that may surface is a foot in a sneaker but overtime even that is less likely.
That is what I was thinking about as well because he may put up some of a fight but if there were more than one person it would be easy. The scary thing is human trafficking rings could target people who might have a harder time fighting back or escaping...
It is 2021 and it is hard for us people with disabilities to find a job. I have autism. I went to catholic school growing up and then I went on to college and graduated so I am well educated and it was still hard to find a job... All right thanks just wanted to state that... Love ya bye!
I have it as well and went to a Catholic School, I have never had anyone support me, seriously on my own since I have been 18, I am 49 now and because I had no choice I forced myself to learn how to work and work with others, it's so difficult but I don't have a choice I do choose to care for myself and my animals and not get help as I value that I have accomplished just this and am still trying. I hope this helps, you can do it too. xo
I’m sorry to hear that Becca, I was hoping things got better but it’s never been easy for people with disabilities to find a job. I was born disabled in a wheelchair and I am well educated too. I’m about the same age as this man in the video if not a little older that’s why this particular case got my attention.
Honestly it's hard for people without disabilities to find jobs sometimes too.. the job market is a bitch tbh 🤷🏻♀️ The job hiring process is like a gladiatorial match to the death 😂 But I hope you were able to find something ❤️
I hope the setbacks are just a stepping stone for something wonderful and a job where people will really appreciate you as a person and as an employee.
same here. Went to Catholic school and I have ADHD. I'm lucky to have a job now, but it took 4 years after college to get here. The Job Market is absolutely vile in general, but there's an additional disgustingness they have with disabled people. I hope things improve now that 2020 has exposed those shady practices more and you're able to find work that suits your boundaries. Its 2021, we should not have to live like this anymore.
Was discussing the case with my partner and he recalled Steven was saving money. Was there any mention about his money after his disappearance? Was it still where Steven saved it or gone?
@@Karen-tu1pq there's nothing wrong with complimenting someone. Clearly she watched the case, chill. It can go both ways too, to hell with your negativity it's about the case. Difference is the original comment was a positive one. I hope you have a better day.
Others said it here in the comments but I feel the same as they do: I find it very odd that the mother didn’t do one of these two things- either crack the door of the rest room open and yell out Steven’s name, or ask a guy to check in there for him. Those things would be considered normal behavior. So I feel her ( the mother’s) behavior is very odd and suspicious. Regardless of what anyone else thinks, that’s what I think. The mom.
Thank you Gabby. I love the way you sensitively & respectfully cover these cases. I live in the UK & recently watched the documentary you mentioned. I do feel for his poor parents!
He was a grown man but his disabilities may have made him seem younger than he was and potentially more vulnerable to a predator. Perhaps someone who knew him from his area lured him into a vehicle under the pretense of offering him a job? I wonder if they ever questioned or looked into the registered sex offenders in his area?
If he really had mental disabilities that would have made him younger in his mind and logic and reasoning then as a mom I'm speaking as a mother I would not have gone to the restroom myself until my son had come out of there and I would have said don't go off with anybody stay right here I got to go tinkle I'll be right back will continue our walk, quote end quote!! I would have literally wet on myself rather than make my son think I had gone off without him by being in the restroom mother's just don't do things like that and she knew his disabilities didn't matter that he's 6 ft tall or whatever and looks like a man the mother knew he wasn't really a man in his mind he didn't have the logic and sensibilities that she should have had maybe the mother had some mental disabilities but I say mother is number one suspect
I dont believe for a second they murdered their son why would they? He was living independently and they werent taking care of him. He wasnt a "burden" to them
@@abigaillistee6529 his sons been missing a long time he is probably very frustrated and just wants answers. If you over analyze what he said in "it doesnt matter which" then yeah but i see it as someone who wants answers and doesnt know how to feel or if he can grieve. Sometimes words just come out wrong in an attempt to get the point across but hey i dont know him, so i could be completely wrong of course.
This is really a strange case. I’m surprised it hasn’t been all over the Internet. I do think the parents behavior is a little odd, but you never know how you will act in the same situation. We all have those “why did I do that” moments. It’s just so sad. The mom not wanting to step on the son’s toes because of his disability, and now something probably happened to him because of it.
Appreciate what you're saying Julie but as a mother with a son with both physical and mental disabilities I would have never up and gone to the bathroom to go pee myself until he had come out and let him know I'm going in I'll be right back to stay right here if what she's saying is anywhere near the truth she goes in the restroom he comes out doesn't see her he could have panicked he could have gone looking for her maybe he didn't know to knock on the women's restroom door or call her name I think the mother should have never gone into the restroom without waiting until he was out of the men's restroom so he could know where she went that's the story that I think is extremely suspect the mother would have never left her kid I don't care what his age was if he has logical reasoning disabilities
@@karenking5357 I understand your point. I also had children with problems, and they do need to learn how to function as best they can in the world. I’m so sorry this happened to him. I hope they find him.
@@karenking5357, he was physically disabled. Not mentally. On one hand, if he was very sensitive when it came to his disability, I can see why she didn't check. Because she didn't want to upset him. I hear what you're saying. I've a son who is full needs with autism. I do find it strange that she wouldn't have someone check before she left for home. Heck, I've had people check on my husband in a bathroom.
Your hair is gorgeous! 💖 I bet he wandered off when Doris was in the restroom and some cruel person hurt him. Poor Steven..She could have atleast called him from the doorway if she didn’t want to go in.
I didn't wander off he was looking for his mother he didn't know she'd gone to the restroom she should have waited until he came out of the men's room and then said Son stay I'm going in the ladies room I'll be right back so that's suspect right there you say he wasn't a burden I believe he was even if he was attempting to live independently she had taken care of him for quite a while for several years and maybe something came up where you know he was going to get worse I don't know that we know that but maybe she didn't want to see herself tied down that she my brother is a kind of person who doesn't handle sickness very well now he's a very good Christian man I don't have to worry about whether he'd kill somebody and bury him but my nature is to be not just motherly but maybe to the mama bear mode type person about anybody I love so if I had a child no matter if he was 23 or 123 but he had mental disabilities I would have made sure he came out of the restroom before I went in that is suspect right there and at least mother has my attention
Getting hit by a car that badly causes internal issues far beyond just a limp, the surgeries alone would have put him at risk of developing blood clots
That's what I said I would have gone in if I had waited but I would not have gone into the ladies room until my son was out of the men's room because if she was in the ladies room he could have come out and with mental disabilities could have thought she deserted him I mean we're talking about a missing person's case here and if her story is true I would have peed on myself before I would have left the area to go into the restroom I don't care if it was 3 ft away I would not have left that spot until my son had come out and if it was more than 10 minutes I would have been in there looking for him or at least send somebody in and then I would have gone in make sure the place was clear I would have asked another man hey can you go and make sure it's clear you know my son is missing I can't find him any he's been in there too long but no instead she has to go pee she doesn't wait on him he may have felt deserted when he came out and she wasn't there if it is true he you know wasn't taking advantage of in the restroom but I would have been watching the door to the restroom until he came out as his mother I would have done that as his friend I would have done that especially with disabilities of any kind
Me too. I've been in situations where I've been with a friend who needed to go, and wasn't disabled, then decided I needed to go and we ended up having to find each other in days before cell phones.
Whoa. This is just tragic and crazy. I can't believe the police did that though. I don't think his parents had anything to do with his disappearance. I can't imagine what they've been through with everything going on in the world and then to get arrested like that almost 3 decades later. And it sounds like it as based on some idiot writing a letter saying they had a feeling the parents murdered their son. Unbelievable. Wow. Good job covering this. I hope he is found. 💖💖💖
Is it? I go in twos or threes with my girlfriends/sister because we're chatting and laughing together and might as well go when the one of the others do lol. Never thought of it as a safety thing.
@@isthisjustfantasy7557 I try to go by myself from a restaurant table, for example, and the other woman at the the table will pop up to go with me. Why they do that is one of the great mysteries of life.
@@beaulieuonnp593 I don't watch that channel much, so I had no idea about the programme they did.... Still haven't watched it either lol. But you know how some cases you just grow up hearing about them, it's a shame it isn't more well known.
It's very weird that they just decided his parents were suspects. If they had investigated them back then they could've questioned people to see if anyone saw them at the beach, etc.
I wonder did they speak to the two men with the young girl as they would be witnesses to the mum being outside and they would have been in the toilet to say If there was anything suspicious in there!
Well, the fresh pair of eyes obviously noticed something in the case files that the previous ones didn’t. But it is indeed an interesting question how well the parents and the circumstances were investigated back then. Is there even evidence (let it be DNA or eye witnesses other than his mother) that he was ever in that bathroom for example?
Well I can say one thing love gg3 I would have never left to go to the restroom until my son with mental and physical disabilities came back out of the men's restroom and I would have said Son stay right here I'm going to go in the ladies room I'll be right back don't go with anybody just stay right here until I get back and then we'll continue I would have never ever at a million years gone into that restroom until he knew I was in there and that was just to wait till he came out the mother is the number one suspect nobody's even saying this and I think that's the main thing you got to think like a mom at a mom would not have left her child I don't care what is ages physically he does not have mental abilities of a 23-year-old man because if he did he probably wouldn't have been going to the beach with his mom we've been going to the beach with his girl
I love it when you show your personality. True, these topics are often sobering, somber, and depressing, but to see you be “you” makes it more palatable.
Love your videos and the fact that you cover older cases. I would love to see you cover the 1927 case of 12 year old Marion Parker’s kidnapping and murder.
Likewise I remember this here in the uk 🇬🇧 I’m doing more research. Yes his parents are a bit strange maybe but doesn’t make them murderers. This supposed girlfriend wonder if she had another boyfriend? I’n unsure for the motive of the parents the dad seems like he might have been quite stern . And quite unemotional on the itv program but these are edited . Yes they are in their eighties now memories alter I know from My own parents . Maybe they are traumatised it’s a massive shock when a child dies or goes missing . They said the town they lived in everyone knew each other . But often it’s someone you know rather than a stranger . The rules of arrest have changed since Stephen disappeared. It’s a conundrum im going to look into. The anonymous letter if it’s like the ripper case (both) this could be a fake one sad done by press one police ….
Yeah. This is the problem with true crime people thinking anyone weird is guilty. I'm autistic. If I had a kid who died, everyone would probably say I did it because I didn't respond right or I didn't remember something exactly right, and "any parent would remember exactly what happened" or whatever nonsense they always say. Or if I were killed, people might blame my parents, and guess what? THEY'RE ALSO AUTISTIC lol Lots of neurodevelopmental conditions run in families. You just can't make assumptions about guilt based on whether people act neurotypical or not
@@no_peace Yes! It always bugs me too how people are so judgemental! They're like- they didn't react how I would so they must be guilty! 🙄 People don't react the same way. Plus we never know how we'll truly react unless we're in that situation.
I really wish it was known for sure if him and his mother went out together. I think the biggest possiblity is that he came out of the restroom, went looking for his mom and met foul play. Maybe a mugging that ended in his death and the person/ people hid him. Or unfortunately the possibility that his parents did something to him and their activities that night were a lie. I don't see any reason to think the parents were involved though. I'm curious if there was anything they had to gain from his death. The guy that changed up his sighting story 3 times is sure odd though! Maybe he had something to do with what happened to him. 🤔 Terribly sad case though! Hopefully what happened will come out and it will be solved!
Well sure there's a reason to think the parents are guilty at least the mother if I had a child with mental disabilities and we were taking a walk to the beach and he had to go the bathroom I would have not gone to the bathroom until he had come out of the men's room because I would not want him to worry where I was and think I had deserted him and I think that's the suspect right there that as a mother she would have never done that she would have waited until he came out of the restroom and then she would go into the ladies room I know that's exactly what I would do I was very protective my children on things like that and then here's this I know he's adult but his mental capabilities are not adult and so he probably doesn't have logic and reasoning so I would have never left him by going into the restroom while he was in the men's room that's just the way it is there's the suspicion and did they have something to gain sure they did possibly insurance but more likely just the burden the mother may have felt the burden of having to take care of him that he would have never been you know a complete person able to take care of himself completely and she'd already been taking care of him several years of him not being normal from her perspective so she loved that son and wanted him to be safe she would have never gone into the restroom herself until he had come out of the men's room then she would have gone in and told him STAY!!
Something similar happened to me New Year's Eve with friends in HS. We were in downtown Boston at Faneuil Hall, my friend and I went to the ladies. I don't take long in the restroom, and she usually does, so I waited for her outside for 20 minutes, and she never came out. If she had come out before me, she would have waited, or so I thought. I never found them. I wound up spending New Year's on the frozen steps by myself with drunk people shouting in my face until I sobered up enough to take the train home. It was really bizarre and disappointing, but at least I had my own transportation home. I was pretty pissed at her for not waiting. She said she was pissed at me for not waiting, which was bizarre, because I did - for a very long time. Just saying - it's entirely possible to lose someone in a very small crowd at an event.
Hi Gabby. I am actually from Cambridge U.k. Me and my daughter watch your videos and your genuine attitude to these true cases is warming. Bringing awareness to the harsh but true stories is so important 🙏🏼👍
I do not suspect the parents at all. I am disabled and on the days where I am capable of using the restroom without support, I know my other half or parents wouldn't come in and would've also assumed I walked on ahead when I got out and saw they were not there.
@@kl2894 actually yes, but there hidden well or blocked up, they were well used during the smuggling era, and I doubt he'd get to the as there high up in the cliff faces too, also there in the opposit direction of the way he was seen walking
Makes no sense that they would have waited until he's 23 to kill him!! The parents didn't do this! So very very sorry the parents had to go through that!! RIP Steven!!🙏💖🙏!
makes total sense, they're old parents and didn't want to be looking after a 50 year old dependant when they were in their 80s, he might have been violent to his mother he was a big lad, his mother is a liar anyway
For the police to think she never even went for her walk....surely there were sightings of the two walking on the beach ? & Surly when they first started to investigate people would have been questioned about those sightings? Especially being people who were well known. Very sad & bizzare, just mindboggling when these things happen & being an adult....even more mindboggling. Always sad though .
I give you credit for pronouncing Yorkshire correctly. LOL! A lot of Americans emphasise the SHIRE part (which is my personal and completely irrational irritation). LOVE your channel and the hard work you put in. All the best from a UK fan :)
Hi Gabby like your pretty in pink hair color. This story is so sad. Going to the public restroom can be scary. I wonder if a predator abducted Steve. Hope he will be found one day. Hope you stay well and safe 🙏🎀
To say this is a mysterious story about someone using a public restroom and then disappearing into thin air, is an under statement. I understand that Steven's mother didn't want to embarrass her son by going into the restroom to look for him, I still would have and also asked a male maintenanceworker in the area to check for Steven. Great investigating of this story as you always put alot of time and energy into your cases l. Take care 🦋
She could have asked 1 of the men that went in while she was there, there's not always necessarily a 'maintenance worker' around especially on a beach.
Interesting that the police couldn't be bothered to look into the case for the first 24 hours, but years later suddenly the two people who tried to get them involved and actually did their own search for the first 24 hours probably killed him 🙄
Appreciate your videos. Please keep up the great work. 🕵️♀️🤍If at all possible would you be able to do a video on the disappearance of the Martin family? The Martin family of Portland, Oregon disappeared on December 7, 1958 in the Columbia River Gorge during a day trip to gather greenery for Christmas decorations. Thank you.
From the limited information I got on this case, pretty much everything we have seems to revolve around Steven's mother. She was there when he vanished and she was also there when he had the accident as a toddler. So my next question would be, was their relationship affected by this in any way? Was he holding any grudge to her?
I had never heard of this case. Within a few minutes of your video I started wondering if there were any witnesses that saw the mother and son out walking that day. If there are witnesses that can verify the story, then my next thought is that maybe the son was still upset about not going to the match and stormed off in another direction. Maybe there was some kind of accident, or maybe he did fall off a cliff into the ocean. Bodies don't always wash up onto the shore, so it could have just been gone. But, I'm kind of with the police on this one. They need to find the holes in the mother's story & get to the truth. I don't think he ever went on that walk in the first place. It was either an accident or the parents did something to him.
Wow, what a case! It hits home as I lived close to Middlesborough and years ago even dated someone from Redcar! I grew up in the North-East and some places are rough. Amazed I never heard about this one! Mind in the 90's I still lived in Ireland, where I'm from. Restrooms in these towns tend to be very basic concrete blocked buildings that are not watched or cleaned often, and they can be in obscure tight little places and even if stood outside it's easy to miss someone going in/out. I'm not sure what to believe as I don't see why the parents would have the motive. Did someone lure him away somehow and his mum just missed him? I can see why she'd not want to go into the mens part as often people with disablities get very upset about this-I taught kids and teens with such issues-before I became chronically ill myself . What a baffling case! You covered it well as always! xxxx
Congrats on your desk showing up! You are so pretty and sweet as you tell us the story Thsnk you for your caring attitude toward all cases but especially the ones who seem to have been forgotten.
Very odd case. I can't quite rid myself of suspicions about the parents, not that they actually did away with him necessarily but just that they are lying about something. So sad about Steven, hard start in life and then put his life together only for this tragic thing to happen.
Gabby,you did another great job with this case.I had read about Steven's case a few years ago.I honestly don't have any theories as to what happened to him.I sympathize with his parents(no,I don't believe that they killed him) but he's no longer living.There's no evidence to support this idea.I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the idea that maybe we was near that cliff near the ocean and somehow lost his balance and fell into the ocean.It's not definite that his body would have been found because those things happen frequently when water is involved.
To accuse parents of murdering their child with absolutely NO PROOF is vile! These people are already going through hell and the authorities are vehemently accusing them! These "authorities" are grasping at straws and I find them horrible for outright saying "where's his body, we know you killed him, etc". They should sue these officers for slandering them and ruining their yard, house, digging up their dead pet! Police never take into consideration the belongings of the people who's home they're searching! They strew things about, they dug up their freakin garden (I would have been furious!), ugh I just can't even. As much as I support law enforcement, alot of things they do I just cannot support. You have a warrant to search someone's home, you do not have the right to destroy their things! This case has me mad. His poor parents. May God be with them.
This leaves out the huge rows at home over him going to the pub with his girlfriend & coming home drunk ( he's an adult, his choice , hardly unusual for a guy his age) & that they changed their story on him attending a football match that day, before the walk. First they said he did go to the match, then they said he couldn't afford a ticket so didn't go.....He'd just won a prestigious apprenticeship & had his first steady girlfriend. He was gaining his independence & was happy. Hardly at a point where he'd commit suicide or start again somewhere else . He's also big enough to fend off unwanted advances in the men's toilets which is the scenario the parents allude to with the comment on child safety at public toilets ( so obv Mom stil sees him as a child from that, not a slightly impaired adult).
Then again coming from you it's obvious because you are very intelligent and respectful towards everyone and everything that you research about. In other words....You are brilliant 👏 👍😉🥰😍😎
@@tasneemkhan3350 and she should have never left the spot where they were when he went to the restroom she should have never gone into the restroom a few moments later she should have waited to go pee until her son was out there again that's the fishy part right there that he went and then she shortly after she went she didn't wait till he came out of the restroom so while she went in the restroom something could have happened to her son or he could have come out he didn't see her and he panicked and thought maybe something had happened to his mom and he started looking for her that's what I'm saying as a mama bear myself I would have never left that spot till he had come out then I would have gotten to the restroom not before
I meant to say this - I completely, 100% understand why she didn't ask. We can not question what we would do in her shoes. My youngest child is a 2 year old boy, my oldest child is 19 - now in the USN at Sub School, my daughter is 17 - graduating this year. I would without question, look for my 2 year old up until he is about 18 (in a public restroom I'm referring to a situation LIKE this i wouldn't barge into a mens room looking for an adult male - I would ask a dude to look for him - I HAVE done that when my oldest was 14 just wanted to make this clear) - I would still look for my daughter (in a women's restroom) even as a 17 year old & as an adult. But my boys? Once they become "men" I would try to honor their individualism and fear embarrassing them. Is it correct? Maybe not. Its not lack of love, quite the opposite - I love then so much that I recognize what they would prefer.
Why not call out to him? She should've done it first, when she decided to go to the Ladies Room, to let him know, in case he came out at that moment, and didn't see her. When she didn't see him, upon returning, she should've called out to him again, letting him know she'd returned.
This is baffling! I understand the mom wanted to Steven to have his independence, but she should at least asked someone or called out in the bathroom to see if he was there. Also did anyone even saw them together at the beach? Look, I don't want to suspect the parents, but this doesn't sit right with me. This is coming from my perspective, but even when I'm with my parents and over the age of 20, I let them know that I'm going to the bathroom and they tell me where to meet them. If we're going to the bathroom the same time, we tell each other to wait outside for them. Hell, my parents and older sibling texted and knocked on the bathroom door one time when I took too long and we were at a restaurant and I was in my early 20's at the time. Like I said, I don't want to suspect the parents, but I'm wondering if the police talked to witnesses and asked if they saw Steven and his mom at that day or the neighbors saw anything unusual outside of the house. I find it odd that there weren't any witness accounts of that day. Someone has to at least saw something.
What I find even stranger is how unsure the mother is about anything concerning this trip to the beach. But I agree that as someone older than Steven was back then if I went out with my parents they wouldn’t assume that I just left without a word.
That's exactly how I feel and the fact that she did not wait until he come out to go the restroom he could have come out thinking either she deserted him or that something happened to her and he went looking for her I think the mother is suspect at least speaking as a mother I would have never left anybody that I was with to go to the restroom until I can tell them where I was and then say y'all stay here I'm going to restroom I'll just take a minute or something to that effect that's where the issue starts having problems with me that she just had to go pee she couldn't wait another you know minute herself to wait till he came out the door and if he'd already taken too long I would have been at the door that restroom and I would have found some way to communicate with him to make sure what he was up to I wouldn't give him an hour or anything any amount of time over what I thought was reasonable
Ok but I wouldn’t have walked into the men’s restroom either to check on my 23-year old. What a horrible, sad situation. Thanks for the video!
Yeah, I don't find that strange. You wouldn't really expect anything bad to have happened to an adult man in there with other people going in and out.
I’m thinking “90s?? That isn’t vintage.” That was over 30 yrs ago. 😭😭😭 reality just set
every time she says she covers cases 20 years or older I always think late '80s but its actually 2001 ✋😫
30 years ago to me is the 1970s.
@@slavicgoth I know right! I feel old. That is okay, blessed to reach this age!
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@@KJ-gc8oq 30 years ago to me was before I was born until I remember that my granddaughter turns 23 in August lolol
"i don't have any evidence, but your honor? his vibes are rancid"
Whenever you refer to 20 years ago as vintage I sprout another gray hair 👵🏼
It's closer to 30 years lol
I went to a vintage clothing store last weekend. Clothes from the 80’s and 90’s...
Yes, we are young geezers now.
Lol. Everytime I hear it I get another body ache 😂
Me too!Added to my other hundred!
Your flailing hands never bothered me. Congrats on the desk though.
Nothing about Gabby ever bothereed me. She is such a sweet girl and her videos are well researched and truly interesting to me :)
I’ve never even noticed it
No I never noticed your hands. Most people talk with their hands. Don't change anything you're great. The only thing I noticed was your hair color. Which is pretty. Have you ever done a case that is 50 + years old? It's unsolved Gabby I'll send you a link. But I don't know where to send it? Through your you tube Channel. You can decide if it's interesting enough to do or not? It has always bothered me that is had never been solved. Not one lead. I thought about sending it to Mike from that chapter but I thought you'd find it interesting..
It makes her channel unique.
Congrats on the desk? 😂 congrats on the pink hair too hahaha
I think its a bit strange that his mum didn't ask someone if they saw him in the bathroom or call out to him if she didn't want to go in.
Right at least she could of knocked and asked if he needed any help or at least she could of yelled and let him know she was using the bathroom.
Also noone saw them at the beach together either. Doris is extremely suspect.
Gabby explained the Mothers reasons for that ... He was 23 .. at some stage you have to allow your child some freedom .
Giving the 23 year old man privacy is one thing but the mother should have told him that she was also going to be using the bathroom and then waited for at least 10 minutes and then knocked on the door and called for him to see if he was alright or in need of any kind of help depending on the type of injuries that he had.
People were going in and out of the bathroom. If someone had been bleeding out on the floor those people would have reacted. There was zero reason to think he had gone missing. The family had probably had interactions like this a hundred times if they went out together. I've been in arguments with my family because half the time they hover and half the time I could be dead on the road and they wouldn't even notice because they were engrossed in conversation with my aunts and uncles. They didn't KILL ME ffs they are just human beings who tend not to follow me into the bathroom.
Wow! When this story began, I didn't think it would turn towards parental accusations!😮
You've done a great job on this story!
Remembering Steven😔🙏
I don't know, the parents really don't sit right with me. I don't blame the police for looking at them, but I do blame the police for not doing it until 28 years after the fact😒
Yeah, the story doesn't make sense. You don't just leave the people you're with and give no explanation. It's not as if he could have sent her a text.
The mother seemed obvious right away to me. She leaves without her son? A friend wouldn’t even do that. You ask someone, call inside, go inside...idk
@@addie_is_me she could have asked a man to see if he's still there. Knowing how long she waited is important information that we won't get probably.
I was thinking the same thing..
I have the same feeling about his mom, maybe not so much his dad.
Did anyone see then together at the beach that day?
Did anyone witness them at the restroom?
Why would she just assume he started walking home?
Why would she not have asked someone to check on him?
Why would she not have tried yelling in to the restroom for a response?
As much as I hate victim blaming, I can't help but to think she really didn't pay any attention to her son. First he gets hit by a truck under her watch, then he goes missing under her watch. Very odd.
Out of all these witnesses, did anyone say they saw Steven and his mother on the beach walking together?
this is my question also, and if not I suspect the parents
No. Very recent UK doc said he was sighted a day later with an older man ( who matched his Dad's description ..... ). He'd just won an apprenticeship award for the disabled & maybe was looking to live a more indelendant life despite his disability. He'd also started going to the local pub alone & come back drunk a few times.... Argument that went wrong over his new socialising? He had a limp & an arm he couldn't straighten. Maybe he fell, drunk, while arguing...
@@sarahholland2600 I just think the police got on it fairly quickly, and I find it hard to believe no one could recall a young man with a limp walking on the beach with an older woman. It's like "Hey, there is a young man walking with an older woman. Wait... He has a limp. He's handicapped. It must be his mother" It may not be right but that's how peoples brains work. They would have stuck out.
Yea I have a "feeling" that they never went for a walk on the beach, but need to see more on the case. This is the first time I've heard anything about it.
Good question!
When I’m 100 and my ma is 124, I’ll still be her baby. I’ve accepted it.
Yes!
So true♥️♥️
Yup acceptance is key I let it go at 21 I'll always be a baby in my mom's eyes I'm 32 and Im perfectly fine with the dynamic 🤣
Im always telling my 5 year old grand daughter about this for her dad (my son)
Your lucky though that you still have your mom, mine passed away 8 yrs ago in March.😭I still miss her every day. So enjoy all time you spend with mom
I live near here and there are a lot of cliffs. It is a seaside area, you can catch a bus up to Whitby from here. I think that he may have had a tragic accident.
If it was high tide at the time he could have been swept away which is why his body has not been found.
Surely bodies swept out to sea wash up somewhere eventually though?
@@sarahholland2600 Yes, I hope he will be found. Unfortunately though, if he was swept out to sea at high tide his body may have been partly eaten by sharks and other sea dwelling creatures. By now what would be left of him would be decomposed and would require dna identification or dental if available. There are cases like that all the time...... There are quite a lot of reports of human feet and ankles washing up still inside the shoes. After decomposition the ankle bones separate from the leg as the remains are smashed around in the ocean against rocks or waves. I have lived by the sea most of my life. I hope he is found but in all probability this may be what happened.
@@sarahholland2600 Not necessarily, you think they would but unfortunately some don't.
I live here and I completely agree, his body may have been taken to sea. The cliffs can be very dangerous
@@sarahholland2600 often times the ocean doesn't give up bodies. The soft tissue gets eaten by sea creatures. The bones seperate and often end up on the ocean floor. The only body part that may surface is a foot in a sneaker but overtime even that is less likely.
Your pronunciation of Yorkshire made me smile it’s perfect 👌
I have the bad feeling that stranger hurt him because of his disability ... I know people like that exist ... :/
It s sadly true
Evil is everywhere :(
That is what I was thinking about as well because he may put up some of a fight but if there were more than one person it would be easy. The scary thing is human trafficking rings could target people who might have a harder time fighting back or escaping...
@@avptb I doubt human trafficking rings would target disabled people like him ...
Sadly i was wondering the same thing.
I dont lnpw quite what to think.
Many killers see people with disabilities as easy targets unfortunately.
You acting out a lawyer having “feelings” was wonderful lol 🖤
It is 2021 and it is hard for us people with disabilities to find a job. I have autism. I went to catholic school growing up and then I went on to college and graduated so I am well educated and it was still hard to find a job... All right thanks just wanted to state that... Love ya bye!
I have it as well and went to a Catholic School, I have never had anyone support me, seriously on my own since I have been 18, I am 49 now and because I had no choice I forced myself to learn how to work and work with others, it's so difficult but I don't have a choice I do choose to care for myself and my animals and not get help as I value that I have accomplished just this and am still trying. I hope this helps, you can do it too. xo
I’m sorry to hear that Becca, I was hoping things got better but it’s never been easy for people with disabilities to find a job. I was born disabled in a wheelchair and I am well educated too. I’m about the same age as this man in the video if not a little older that’s why this particular case got my attention.
Honestly it's hard for people without disabilities to find jobs sometimes too.. the job market is a bitch tbh 🤷🏻♀️ The job hiring process is like a gladiatorial match to the death 😂 But I hope you were able to find something ❤️
I hope the setbacks are just a stepping stone for something wonderful and a job where people will really appreciate you as a person and as an employee.
same here. Went to Catholic school and I have ADHD. I'm lucky to have a job now, but it took 4 years after college to get here. The Job Market is absolutely vile in general, but there's an additional disgustingness they have with disabled people. I hope things improve now that 2020 has exposed those shady practices more and you're able to find work that suits your boundaries. Its 2021, we should not have to live like this anymore.
Wait... 1992 was 28 years ago? I was a Sophomore in High School. Seems like yesterday. Crazy!
I know right!!
* 29 years ago. I was born in '93 and turn 28 this year
no way that's ridiculous, I was a proper grown up then, well 26. My lifestyle is pretty much the same and no kids too so I hardly notice the time
I was 2 😭😭
My husband was a newborn I didn’t exist 🥴
Your hair is everything! These types of disappearances creep me out.
Was discussing the case with my partner and he recalled Steven was saving money. Was there any mention about his money after his disappearance? Was it still where Steven saved it or gone?
Hell with the hair, most importantly is the case she is covering.
I believe the story is everything. Not her hair
@@Karen-tu1pq there's nothing wrong with complimenting someone. Clearly she watched the case, chill. It can go both ways too, to hell with your negativity it's about the case. Difference is the original comment was a positive one. I hope you have a better day.
@@daymarie1111 Thank you for being a light in my comment thread. It's unfortunate that we can't compliment creators WHILE watching the video.
Apologies for being off-topic, but your hair is so pretty. It always is, but I especially love the color today.
go buy one . its a wig
@@ronwilson5906 lol! Actually, it’s not. 😂
@@Dee.Murphy LOL maybe not I guess the circus look is in nowadays
Others said it here in the comments but I feel the same as they do: I find it very odd that the mother didn’t do one of these two things- either crack the door of the rest room open and yell out Steven’s name, or ask a guy to check in there for him. Those things would be considered normal behavior. So I feel her ( the mother’s) behavior is very odd and suspicious. Regardless of what anyone else thinks, that’s what I think. The mom.
You can do abnormal things without killing people
@@no_peace your comment actually says absolutely nothing.
@@AdrienneMint calm down Karen
@@haleyfitts4752 why don’t you make me
@@AdrienneMint I’m not a child 🙂
Hmmm, 4 pm, december in England is pretty much dark outside (same as Sweden where I live). That witness could
have been misstaken.
True!
Yeah you're right it would have been dark already!
Excellent point!n Dark here at 4 in winter, too.
I’m representing myself in court against my ex who’s a corrupt chief. Your mood being the attorney is my whole vibe. “ I have a feeling” 😅🤣
Good luck with your court case!!
@@sushisaschi7744 thank you 🙏
@@Michelle-hd2kv how’d it go
Thank you Gabby. I love the way you sensitively & respectfully cover these cases. I live in the UK & recently watched the documentary you mentioned. I do feel for his poor parents!
He was a grown man but his disabilities may have made him seem younger than he was and potentially more vulnerable to a predator. Perhaps someone who knew him from his area lured him into a vehicle under the pretense of offering him a job? I wonder if they ever questioned or looked into the registered sex offenders in his area?
If he really had mental disabilities that would have made him younger in his mind and logic and reasoning then as a mom I'm speaking as a mother I would not have gone to the restroom myself until my son had come out of there and I would have said don't go off with anybody stay right here I got to go tinkle I'll be right back will continue our walk, quote end quote!! I would have literally wet on myself rather than make my son think I had gone off without him by being in the restroom mother's just don't do things like that and she knew his disabilities didn't matter that he's 6 ft tall or whatever and looks like a man the mother knew he wasn't really a man in his mind he didn't have the logic and sensibilities that she should have had maybe the mother had some mental disabilities but I say mother is number one suspect
@@karenking5357 If he did. But he wasn't mentally challenged. He was physically challenged. Karen!
No i don't believe da...his parents they did it .
no, it was the parents, you just need to watch their body language to know they did it
@@geraldbarreno535 yep
Hi Gabby. I adore you. Thank you for all of your hard work and respect showed towards victims and their families. I hope you are well.
I dont believe for a second they murdered their son why would they? He was living independently and they werent taking care of him. He wasnt a "burden" to them
His dad recently said he wants to find him dead or alive and that it doesn’t matter which. Weird thing to say
@@abigaillistee6529 his sons been missing a long time he is probably very frustrated and just wants answers. If you over analyze what he said in "it doesnt matter which" then yeah but i see it as someone who wants answers and doesnt know how to feel or if he can grieve. Sometimes words just come out wrong in an attempt to get the point across but hey i dont know him, so i could be completely wrong of course.
@@abigaillistee6529 he wants closure. I hear a lot of people say this about their missing family. They just want to know either way
@@abigaillistee6529 it's not weird at all. By now he just wants closure.
@@abigaillistee6529 yes as soon as he said that big red flag!!
This is really a strange case. I’m surprised it hasn’t been all over the Internet. I do think the parents behavior is a little odd, but you never know how you will act in the same situation. We all have those “why did I do that” moments. It’s just so sad. The mom not wanting to step on the son’s toes because of his disability, and now something probably happened to him because of it.
Appreciate what you're saying Julie but as a mother with a son with both physical and mental disabilities I would have never up and gone to the bathroom to go pee myself until he had come out and let him know I'm going in I'll be right back to stay right here if what she's saying is anywhere near the truth she goes in the restroom he comes out doesn't see her he could have panicked he could have gone looking for her maybe he didn't know to knock on the women's restroom door or call her name I think the mother should have never gone into the restroom without waiting until he was out of the men's restroom so he could know where she went that's the story that I think is extremely suspect the mother would have never left her kid I don't care what his age was if he has logical reasoning disabilities
@@karenking5357 I understand your point. I also had children with problems, and they do need to learn how to function as best they can in the world. I’m so sorry this happened to him. I hope they find him.
@@karenking5357 Your name checks out.
@@karenking5357, he was physically disabled. Not mentally.
On one hand, if he was very sensitive when it came to his disability, I can see why she didn't check.
Because she didn't want to upset him.
I hear what you're saying. I've a son who is full needs with autism.
I do find it strange that she wouldn't have someone check before she left for home.
Heck, I've had people check on my husband in a bathroom.
Your hair is gorgeous! 💖
I bet he wandered off when Doris was in the restroom and some cruel person hurt him. Poor Steven..She could have atleast called him from the doorway if she didn’t want to go in.
I didn't wander off he was looking for his mother he didn't know she'd gone to the restroom she should have waited until he came out of the men's room and then said Son stay I'm going in the ladies room I'll be right back so that's suspect right there you say he wasn't a burden I believe he was even if he was attempting to live independently she had taken care of him for quite a while for several years and maybe something came up where you know he was going to get worse I don't know that we know that but maybe she didn't want to see herself tied down that she my brother is a kind of person who doesn't handle sickness very well now he's a very good Christian man I don't have to worry about whether he'd kill somebody and bury him but my nature is to be not just motherly but maybe to the mama bear mode type person about anybody I love so if I had a child no matter if he was 23 or 123 but he had mental disabilities I would have made sure he came out of the restroom before I went in that is suspect right there and at least mother has my attention
My son is 20 but he has epilepsy so damn straight I would have gone in there or ask someone if he was in there!
But he didn't have epilepsy, he had a limp.
Getting hit by a car that badly causes internal issues far beyond just a limp, the surgeries alone would have put him at risk of developing blood clots
That's what I said I would have gone in if I had waited but I would not have gone into the ladies room until my son was out of the men's room because if she was in the ladies room he could have come out and with mental disabilities could have thought she deserted him I mean we're talking about a missing person's case here and if her story is true I would have peed on myself before I would have left the area to go into the restroom I don't care if it was 3 ft away I would not have left that spot until my son had come out and if it was more than 10 minutes I would have been in there looking for him or at least send somebody in and then I would have gone in make sure the place was clear I would have asked another man hey can you go and make sure it's clear you know my son is missing I can't find him any he's been in there too long but no instead she has to go pee she doesn't wait on him he may have felt deserted when he came out and she wasn't there if it is true he you know wasn't taking advantage of in the restroom but I would have been watching the door to the restroom until he came out as his mother I would have done that as his friend I would have done that especially with disabilities of any kind
Me too. I've been in situations where I've been with a friend who needed to go, and wasn't disabled, then decided I needed to go and we ended up having to find each other in days before cell phones.
Whoa. This is just tragic and crazy. I can't believe the police did that though. I don't think his parents had anything to do with his disappearance. I can't imagine what they've been through with everything going on in the world and then to get arrested like that almost 3 decades later. And it sounds like it as based on some idiot writing a letter saying they had a feeling the parents murdered their son. Unbelievable. Wow. Good job covering this. I hope he is found. 💖💖💖
This is why girls always go to the bathroom in at least two this makes me think men should too :(
right
Oh is that why. I’m a woman who needs privacy and never thought of a good reason to go as 2.
Is it? I go in twos or threes with my girlfriends/sister because we're chatting and laughing together and might as well go when the one of the others do lol. Never thought of it as a safety thing.
@@isthisjustfantasy7557 I try to go by myself from a restaurant table, for example, and the other woman at the the table will pop up to go with me. Why they do that is one of the great mysteries of life.
@@jonhohensee3258 wow thanks so much for completing dismissing the point bestie!
What a crazy story, very respectfully done, Gabby
I'm from the UK and I have say I've never heard of this case... It's very strange
I have never heard of this case too, I don't watch ITV uk
@@beaulieuonnp593 I don't watch that channel much, so I had no idea about the programme they did.... Still haven't watched it either lol.
But you know how some cases you just grow up hearing about them, it's a shame it isn't more well known.
I remember it I’m going to go look into it 🇬🇧 interesting that the girl Stephen was apparently seeing isn’t mentioned
Wow the cops doing that to his parents that many years later is crazy. I hope they figure out what happened before his parents pass away.
It's very weird that they just decided his parents were suspects. If they had investigated them back then they could've questioned people to see if anyone saw them at the beach, etc.
I wonder did they speak to the two men with the young girl as they would be witnesses to the mum being outside and they would have been in the toilet to say If there was anything suspicious in there!
Caroline this was one of my questions too!
Well, the fresh pair of eyes obviously noticed something in the case files that the previous ones didn’t. But it is indeed an interesting question how well the parents and the circumstances were investigated back then. Is there even evidence (let it be DNA or eye witnesses other than his mother) that he was ever in that bathroom for example?
Well I can say one thing love gg3 I would have never left to go to the restroom until my son with mental and physical disabilities came back out of the men's restroom and I would have said Son stay right here I'm going to go in the ladies room I'll be right back don't go with anybody just stay right here until I get back and then we'll continue I would have never ever at a million years gone into that restroom until he knew I was in there and that was just to wait till he came out the mother is the number one suspect nobody's even saying this and I think that's the main thing you got to think like a mom at a mom would not have left her child I don't care what is ages physically he does not have mental abilities of a 23-year-old man because if he did he probably wouldn't have been going to the beach with his mom we've been going to the beach with his girl
@@karenking5357 He only had physical disabilities, not mental ones.
Thank you so much for covering my case request! Let’s hope this video raises some more awareness! 💛
I love it when you show your personality. True, these topics are often sobering, somber, and depressing, but to see you be “you” makes it more palatable.
Love your videos and the fact that you cover older cases. I would love to see you cover the 1927 case of 12 year old Marion Parker’s kidnapping and murder.
Thank you for the name of your lipstick. Darling with the pink hair ❣❣❣❣❣
i understand folks finding his parents suspicious, i’m just stuck on the motive
Likewise I remember this here in the uk 🇬🇧 I’m doing more research. Yes his parents are a bit strange maybe but doesn’t make them murderers. This supposed girlfriend wonder if she had another boyfriend?
I’n unsure for the motive of the parents the dad seems like he might have been quite stern . And quite unemotional on the itv program but these are edited .
Yes they are in their eighties now memories alter I know from
My own parents . Maybe they are traumatised it’s a massive shock when a child dies or goes missing .
They said the town they lived in everyone knew each other . But often it’s someone you know rather than a stranger .
The rules of arrest have changed since Stephen disappeared. It’s a conundrum im going to look into.
The anonymous letter if it’s like the ripper case (both) this could be a fake one sad done by press one police ….
Yeah. This is the problem with true crime people thinking anyone weird is guilty. I'm autistic. If I had a kid who died, everyone would probably say I did it because I didn't respond right or I didn't remember something exactly right, and "any parent would remember exactly what happened" or whatever nonsense they always say. Or if I were killed, people might blame my parents, and guess what? THEY'RE ALSO AUTISTIC lol
Lots of neurodevelopmental conditions run in families. You just can't make assumptions about guilt based on whether people act neurotypical or not
Yeah. Plus no life insurance policy on him was mentioned. I doubt the parents had anything to do with it.
@@no_peace Yes! It always bugs me too how people are so judgemental! They're like- they didn't react how I would so they must be guilty! 🙄 People don't react the same way. Plus we never know how we'll truly react unless we're in that situation.
Heartbreaking story 💔😞😔
I really wish it was known for sure if him and his mother went out together. I think the biggest possiblity is that he came out of the restroom, went looking for his mom and met foul play. Maybe a mugging that ended in his death and the person/ people hid him. Or unfortunately the possibility that his parents did something to him and their activities that night were a lie. I don't see any reason to think the parents were involved though. I'm curious if there was anything they had to gain from his death. The guy that changed up his sighting story 3 times is sure odd though! Maybe he had something to do with what happened to him. 🤔 Terribly sad case though! Hopefully what happened will come out and it will be solved!
Well sure there's a reason to think the parents are guilty at least the mother if I had a child with mental disabilities and we were taking a walk to the beach and he had to go the bathroom I would have not gone to the bathroom until he had come out of the men's room because I would not want him to worry where I was and think I had deserted him and I think that's the suspect right there that as a mother she would have never done that she would have waited until he came out of the restroom and then she would go into the ladies room I know that's exactly what I would do I was very protective my children on things like that and then here's this I know he's adult but his mental capabilities are not adult and so he probably doesn't have logic and reasoning so I would have never left him by going into the restroom while he was in the men's room that's just the way it is there's the suspicion and did they have something to gain sure they did possibly insurance but more likely just the burden the mother may have felt the burden of having to take care of him that he would have never been you know a complete person able to take care of himself completely and she'd already been taking care of him several years of him not being normal from her perspective so she loved that son and wanted him to be safe she would have never gone into the restroom herself until he had come out of the men's room then she would have gone in and told him STAY!!
@@karenking5357 he didn’t have mental disabilities. Please Stop spreading lies
These kinds of missing cases are just so sad and distressing to me. 💔💔
The LAPD needs to hire this mysterious woman who wrote that letter containing her revelations immediately!!!
Recent UK documentary stated she'd been traced, was unknown to/ had no knowledge of the family & her allegations had no foundation in fact.
Ummm what lol you're as crazy as the letter lady
@@havenburum1071 If you anything about L.A. it makes perfect sense.
This is a British case i remember it no mention of stephens possible girlfriend in the itv documentalary
Something similar happened to me New Year's Eve with friends in HS. We were in downtown Boston at Faneuil Hall, my friend and I went to the ladies. I don't take long in the restroom, and she usually does, so I waited for her outside for 20 minutes, and she never came out. If she had come out before me, she would have waited, or so I thought. I never found them. I wound up spending New Year's on the frozen steps by myself with drunk people shouting in my face until I sobered up enough to take the train home. It was really bizarre and disappointing, but at least I had my own transportation home. I was pretty pissed at her for not waiting. She said she was pissed at me for not waiting, which was bizarre, because I did - for a very long time. Just saying - it's entirely possible to lose someone in a very small crowd at an event.
Thanks for sharing your experience - it gives good insight.
Ooh I recently watched this documentary so glad you're covering it. Love the hair 💕
Ooh this just was uploaded watching now! Love your videos.
I'm from beautiful (and rainy!) Scotland 🏴
Please do a video on the mysterious death of 1920's socialite, Starr Faithful.
Love your hair, btw. 💜
Her life and death were tragic.
Gabby, your flailing hands never bothered me. People sometimes talk with their hands. You are the bestest storyteller.🙏❤️
Lets not exaggerate.
Hi Gabby. I am actually from Cambridge U.k. Me and my daughter watch your videos and your genuine attitude to these true cases is warming. Bringing awareness to the harsh but true stories is so important 🙏🏼👍
You have some of the best content on RUclips. I really enjoy your channel.🍻
Gabby, you are so good at bringing all your videos to life.Thank You for all you do.Take care.🌟🌟💕💙
Hey! Always happy to see you post! Your hair is everything! 💗💗💗💗
I do not suspect the parents at all. I am disabled and on the days where I am capable of using the restroom without support, I know my other half or parents wouldn't come in and would've also assumed I walked on ahead when I got out and saw they were not there.
No way! Saltburn is where I live 😅 I've been following this case, did not expect to see one of my favourite youtubers cover it!
Are there any caves around there near the beach that he could have got into?
@@kl2894 actually yes, but there hidden well or blocked up, they were well used during the smuggling era, and I doubt he'd get to the as there high up in the cliff faces too, also there in the opposit direction of the way he was seen walking
@@toniilousie6029 Thanks for the response. I appreciate it 😊
As someone who lives in the area and has been following this case for a longer time what is your theory? :)
Where is the sister? What does she have to say? Was she ever mentioned other than being born after her brother?
That’s what I was wondering too!
Makes no sense that they would have waited until he's 23 to kill him!! The parents didn't do this! So very very sorry the parents had to go through that!! RIP Steven!!🙏💖🙏!
makes total sense, they're old parents and didn't want to be looking after a 50 year old dependant when they were in their 80s, he might have been violent to his mother he was a big lad, his mother is a liar anyway
I agree I don’t think the parents did it
You can think that, but there is something about them that left me sour.
For the police to think she never even went for her walk....surely there were sightings of the two walking on the beach ? & Surly when they first started to investigate people would have been questioned about those sightings? Especially being people who were well known. Very sad & bizzare, just mindboggling when these things happen & being an adult....even more mindboggling.
Always sad though .
I give you credit for pronouncing Yorkshire correctly. LOL! A lot of Americans emphasise the SHIRE part (which is my personal and completely irrational irritation). LOVE your channel and the hard work you put in. All the best from a UK fan :)
Please discuss the case of Sherry Lynn Marler. She disappeared in 1984. Thank you. Love your hair BTW.
I really liked your presentation on this case!!! You worked well with the information available. The parents... Hmm wasn't expecting that...
Hi Gabby like your pretty in pink hair color. This story is so sad. Going to the public restroom can be scary. I wonder if a predator abducted Steve. Hope he will be found one day. Hope you stay well and safe 🙏🎀
Talking with your hands means you are expressive, artistic in many ways, including storytelling.
To say this is a mysterious story about someone using a public restroom and then disappearing into thin air, is an under statement. I understand that Steven's mother didn't want to embarrass her son by going into the restroom to look for him, I still would have and also asked a male maintenanceworker in the area to check for Steven. Great investigating of this story as you always put alot of time and energy into your cases l. Take care 🦋
She could have asked 1 of the men that went in while she was there, there's not always necessarily a 'maintenance worker' around especially on a beach.
Interesting that the police couldn't be bothered to look into the case for the first 24 hours, but years later suddenly the two people who tried to get them involved and actually did their own search for the first 24 hours probably killed him 🙄
My God. The police acted on that letter?
Thanks for this upload Gabby. It was very informative if at the same time thoroughly confusing.
Appreciate your videos. Please keep up the great work. 🕵️♀️🤍If at all possible would you be able to do a video on the disappearance of the Martin family? The Martin family of Portland, Oregon disappeared on December 7, 1958 in the Columbia River Gorge during a day trip to gather greenery for Christmas decorations. Thank you.
From the limited information I got on this case, pretty much everything we have seems to revolve around Steven's mother. She was there when he vanished and she was also there when he had the accident as a toddler. So my next question would be, was their relationship affected by this in any way? Was he holding any grudge to her?
I mean, toddlers spend their time around their mothers. The bathroom incident was a coincidence
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You got a new subscriber just from you awesome name.
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The police being so tough on the case is actually good news. It’s like they’re really on Steven’s side.
I had never heard of this case. Within a few minutes of your video I started wondering if there were any witnesses that saw the mother and son out walking that day. If there are witnesses that can verify the story, then my next thought is that maybe the son was still upset about not going to the match and stormed off in another direction. Maybe there was some kind of accident, or maybe he did fall off a cliff into the ocean. Bodies don't always wash up onto the shore, so it could have just been gone. But, I'm kind of with the police on this one. They need to find the holes in the mother's story & get to the truth. I don't think he ever went on that walk in the first place. It was either an accident or the parents did something to him.
What a wonderful channel! I am now addicted. These cases are fascinating. Love from England.
I feel terribly sorry for him. Every disappearance is heartbreaking, but for me vulnerable people always hit a special spot 😢
Wow, what a case! It hits home as I lived close to Middlesborough and years ago even dated someone from Redcar! I grew up in the North-East and some places are rough. Amazed I never heard about this one! Mind in the 90's I still lived in Ireland, where I'm from. Restrooms in these towns tend to be very basic concrete blocked buildings that are not watched or cleaned often, and they can be in obscure tight little places and even if stood outside it's easy to miss someone going in/out. I'm not sure what to believe as I don't see why the parents would have the motive. Did someone lure him away somehow and his mum just missed him? I can see why she'd not want to go into the mens part as often people with disablities get very upset about this-I taught kids and teens with such issues-before I became chronically ill myself . What a baffling case! You covered it well as always! xxxx
I know there would have been a lot, but did police ever check the ladies' bathroom for fingerprints to see if she had actually been in there?
A public bathroom in a park? It's probably just one big fingerprint in there - house frequently do you suppose they clean those?
Gabby you look absolutely stunning your hair and makeup are on point 🥰
You’re so cute - “I have a desk!!”. Thanks for bringing awareness to these cold cases 🙏
I miss your old Hollywood videos, they were the best 🤍
Me too :(
Congrats on your desk showing up! You are so pretty and sweet as you tell us the story Thsnk you for your caring attitude toward all cases but especially the ones who seem to have been forgotten.
Very odd case. I can't quite rid myself of suspicions about the parents, not that they actually did away with him necessarily but just that they are lying about something. So sad about Steven, hard start in life and then put his life together only for this tragic thing to happen.
Gabby,you did another great job with this case.I had read about Steven's case a few years ago.I honestly don't have any theories as to what happened to him.I sympathize with his parents(no,I don't believe that they killed him) but he's no longer living.There's no evidence to support this idea.I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the idea that maybe we was near that cliff near the ocean and somehow lost his balance and fell into the ocean.It's not definite that his body would have been found because those things happen frequently when water is involved.
Hi Gabby! Love your videos, LOVE your personality. ❤️ Thanks for doing what you do!
Congratulations on your new desk!!! 😁
Just starting the video - love the pink hair! 💜
To accuse parents of murdering their child with absolutely NO PROOF is vile!
These people are already going through hell and the authorities are vehemently accusing them! These "authorities" are grasping at straws and I find them horrible for outright saying "where's his body, we know you killed him, etc". They should sue these officers for slandering them and ruining their yard, house, digging up their dead pet!
Police never take into consideration the belongings of the people who's home they're searching! They strew things about, they dug up their freakin garden (I would have been furious!), ugh I just can't even.
As much as I support law enforcement, alot of things they do I just cannot support. You have a warrant to search someone's home, you do not have the right to destroy their things!
This case has me mad.
His poor parents. May God be with them.
This leaves out the huge rows at home over him going to the pub with his girlfriend & coming home drunk ( he's an adult, his choice , hardly unusual for a guy his age) & that they changed their story on him attending a football match that day, before the walk. First they said he did go to the match, then they said he couldn't afford a ticket so didn't go.....He'd just won a prestigious apprenticeship & had his first steady girlfriend. He was gaining his independence & was happy. Hardly at a point where he'd commit suicide or start again somewhere else . He's also big enough to fend off unwanted advances in the men's toilets which is the scenario the parents allude to with the comment on child safety at public toilets ( so obv Mom stil sees him as a child from that, not a slightly impaired adult).
I have never heard of this case, I live in the UK. Thanks for doing this video
Me: this case happened the year I was born!
Gabby: he has now been missing for 28 years
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It's nice to see and hear an American pronounce British places names properly 😉👍
I really tried lol thank you!!
Is cute 😍 how you say lorry xx
"I have no evidence but I have a feeling"
Then again coming from you it's obvious because you are very intelligent and respectful towards everyone and everything that you research about. In other words....You are brilliant 👏 👍😉🥰😍😎
see my question is, why didn't his mom ask someone coming out of the bathroom if they saw him?
ikr! i understand her not wanting to go in but she could just ask someone
@@tasneemkhan3350 and she should have never left the spot where they were when he went to the restroom she should have never gone into the restroom a few moments later she should have waited to go pee until her son was out there again that's the fishy part right there that he went and then she shortly after she went she didn't wait till he came out of the restroom so while she went in the restroom something could have happened to her son or he could have come out he didn't see her and he panicked and thought maybe something had happened to his mom and he started looking for her that's what I'm saying as a mama bear myself I would have never left that spot till he had come out then I would have gotten to the restroom not before
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I meant to say this - I completely, 100% understand why she didn't ask. We can not question what we would do in her shoes. My youngest child is a 2 year old boy, my oldest child is 19 - now in the USN at Sub School, my daughter is 17 - graduating this year. I would without question, look for my 2 year old up until he is about 18 (in a public restroom I'm referring to a situation LIKE this i wouldn't barge into a mens room looking for an adult male - I would ask a dude to look for him - I HAVE done that when my oldest was 14 just wanted to make this clear) - I would still look for my daughter (in a women's restroom) even as a 17 year old & as an adult. But my boys? Once they become "men" I would try to honor their individualism and fear embarrassing them. Is it correct? Maybe not. Its not lack of love, quite the opposite - I love then so much that I recognize what they would prefer.
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Your pronunciation of all the places in the NE of England are amazing and spot on.
Why not call out to him? She should've done it first, when she decided to go to the Ladies Room, to let him know, in case he came out at that moment, and didn't see her. When she didn't see him, upon returning, she should've called out to him again, letting him know she'd returned.
This is baffling! I understand the mom wanted to Steven to have his independence, but she should at least asked someone or called out in the bathroom to see if he was there. Also did anyone even saw them together at the beach? Look, I don't want to suspect the parents, but this doesn't sit right with me.
This is coming from my perspective, but even when I'm with my parents and over the age of 20, I let them know that I'm going to the bathroom and they tell me where to meet them. If we're going to the bathroom the same time, we tell each other to wait outside for them. Hell, my parents and older sibling texted and knocked on the bathroom door one time when I took too long and we were at a restaurant and I was in my early 20's at the time.
Like I said, I don't want to suspect the parents, but I'm wondering if the police talked to witnesses and asked if they saw Steven and his mom at that day or the neighbors saw anything unusual outside of the house. I find it odd that there weren't any witness accounts of that day. Someone has to at least saw something.
What I find even stranger is how unsure the mother is about anything concerning this trip to the beach. But I agree that as someone older than Steven was back then if I went out with my parents they wouldn’t assume that I just left without a word.
That's exactly how I feel and the fact that she did not wait until he come out to go the restroom he could have come out thinking either she deserted him or that something happened to her and he went looking for her I think the mother is suspect at least speaking as a mother I would have never left anybody that I was with to go to the restroom until I can tell them where I was and then say y'all stay here I'm going to restroom I'll just take a minute or something to that effect that's where the issue starts having problems with me that she just had to go pee she couldn't wait another you know minute herself to wait till he came out the door and if he'd already taken too long I would have been at the door that restroom and I would have found some way to communicate with him to make sure what he was up to I wouldn't give him an hour or anything any amount of time over what I thought was reasonable
I’m jealous how you pull off every hair color so well!! 😍
Love you gabby 💙
Rocking the pink hair!!😍