I think gamers need more contents like this. Lots of content creators shares GTA SA curiosities that everybody already knows, but just some modders knows technical curiosities/trivias like this to share, and almost no modder have a youtube channel talking etc.
Fun fact about the night lights: In Red Light district (GTA III) there's a building where, instead of adding the lights over the building, the complete building is replaced during nightime, there's also a few wonky things with the collision, but in an unmodded game, they work ok.
i've honestly never heard anyone talk about those hidden speed limits in certain areas of the map before but that makes so much sense to me looking back now. i always swore i could feel cars going slower when driving around the strip, it's nice to know i'm not insane.
6:20 add also the fact that it removes the rain shader from all the map, not only under the bridge: Meaning that if you look outsilde from a tunner or from under a bridge, the rain effect will be gone for the whole map, until you come out again.
I knew that road signs weren't textures because I was playing with Map Editor and they won't show up there. Linking the text to the roads themselves is so genius
Love this game and learning more about it. Even after 20 years, it's incredible to still be learning new things. Awesome video, this one's gonna be a hit.
The bit about the road signs is interesting, because there's quite a lot of signs over the map that Rockstar forgot to add text to. I guess fixing it shouldn't be as difficult as I thought it would be, haha.
@@YOEL_44 Beats having to manually create textures for each individual sign and importing them into the game lol. The game already has the system for sign text in place, it's a matter of filling up the missing text. Laborious? yes, but worth it IMHO for the added immersion.
@@NicolasChiribelo I think that MagicTXD + Photoshop / GIMP / whichever-you-use is waaaaaay faster than all that juggling... And I've been modding GTAs for over 10 years...
@YOEL_44 did you watch the video? If you edit the sign texture itself you will be editing ALL the signals in the game at the same time. Rockstar made this 2DFX system for efficiency's sake.
@@NicolasChiribelo I know, I meant that if this system wasn't in-place, it would be orders of magnitude faster to edit, tweak, fix, whatever... those signs. GTA III, and Vice City didn't use it, try doing a speedrun on your own, editing 10 of each games' signs, you'll see what I mean.
Didn't the Super GT and Uranus had broken illumination value or something? I remember these cars looked a lot darker than the rest and had no reflections
I really adore these type of contents, I learned so much from it! The PC Hardcoded Light Fact was the most interesting fact for me, now I know why it's important to replace the PC timecyc with the PS2 one.
The speedlimit was a fact well known by the stunters, it was used to check if a player was cheating or not, as reaching some area wasn't possible with the speed restriction ;) It was possible to cross the speed limit with a bike trick but the air resistance couldn't be bypass, so the top speed was limited even while doing a perfect glitch ;)
I didn't actually aim for the ramp. I used that same footage in my "The Hidden Speed Limits of GTA San Andreas" video, and I intentionally crashed into the church.
@@prgaming5063 not sure what you mean as its a completely different game engine, I just meant its cool to see that they kept the trick of 'slow players down in certain areas to increase performance' with very few people actually noticing 😅
Did you know that whether you're hidden during stealth/burglary is based on the brightness setting on the PS2 version? Joshimuz found it out during Madd Doggs Rhymes in the first part of his Retro Achievements series
And then there is the definitive edition with it's technical disabilities & impeccable "attention to detail" which most newer generations will have to settle for. This 20 year old game was so far ahead of every other GTA game that It kinda makes me sad knowing we are never getting anything close to this masterpiece again (Maybe GTA VI? IDK)...
@@novawolf_gaminggood i suppose I honestly thought 4 was so boring, yea the city is definitely detailed very well, but liberty city just sucks imo, it’s not a fun location like Sa or vice city.
I wonder if the road sign system is in any way similar to GTA V's car license plate system, as the frames are different textures but the text is seperate, with modding you can also add more fictional plates like Liberty State, or real ones like UK style or the weird Russian style.
I linked this video in the Silent Patch thread on GTA Forums, so maybe Silent will fix the helicopter-bridge bug.. And then i was surprised to see you being the 2nd person who ever commented this thread, exactly 11 years ago, Dec 29 2013. Interesting coincidence!
Is there any mod to have thisen sunday from the beginning all the time? Or to restore it? Really good video. Sub and like. I knew the beginning of the game was unique
the entire police helicopter system is actually completely diffrent in San Andreas, in gta 3 and vc, they used their own separate npc models to chase the player down and had diffrent physics to the helicopters you could fly, these would often clip into buildings and were very slow, but it was all redone in san andreas, now the npc helis could collide with buildings and were slightly faster, but the "helicopter free zone" you mentioned in the video actually applies to vice city as well, its actually becomes ridiculous when driving at the second island where there are many bridges you go under, the police heli will just fly away constantly.
The hardcoded light is interesting because one of the things that drives me crazy in the Definitive Edition is that black as a vehicle color looks gray. Even stranger, when you paint a car black in the vehicle mod shop, it looks like a nice deep black, but as soon as you leave the mod shop and are outside, it goes back to looking gray. I just wanna recreate Alonzo’s car from Training Day but I can’t because it looks gray. It’s so lame.
4:22 i hated that on vanilla pc. Broken lighting made npcs look like they're made of cardboard. Sometimes even cars like the Super GT didn't even cast that mild hardcoded light.
2:03 Where is this texture stored? I've never seen it before. Also, notice the alien symbol at the bottom left corner. Is it actually used in any of the signs?
I can't remember exactly, but I think it's stored in particle.txd, I'd have to check to confirm though. Also it might be used in one of the arcade games? Not sure.
The more I learn about GTA San Andreas, the more I question reality on how they managed to launch this on a PS2.. and it plays better than the versions that released after.
Hardcoding something instead of using a functionality that is already there is something programmers do all the time when they are new to a code base (or when they just dont care)
Please explain to me, why used mod skygfx can make bug sound likes vehicle. The sound in the gameplay disappears and reappears randomly. especially when driving. please provide a solution to this problem 🙏
Hi, I tried contacting through the discord but its not possible to make posts for some reason, If I have Rosa inside of the modloader folder the game won't start at all, do you know how i could fix?
Hello friend, can you please answer this question? very important I installed a whole mod on the GTA San Andreas game so that 2 GB of RAM is no longer enough As I go higher, there is no change in the open limit adjuster settings, can you help me?
I use RWAnalyze to extract the 2DFX data, then I convert it into a readable format using DK's 2DFX tool. You can then edit the data, convert it back into 2DFX data and import it again using RWAnalyze.
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Only six!? Next video 12 please. Or do you only tell people you know so much about SA without knowing nothin?
Can you make a GTA Vice City modding guide like the San Andreas one?
I think gamers need more contents like this. Lots of content creators shares GTA SA curiosities that everybody already knows, but just some modders knows technical curiosities/trivias like this to share, and almost no modder have a youtube channel talking etc.
I'm a huge fan of your work
I guess he's the first for something
i love your works man
Mixmod my favourite man ❤
Favourite modder, probably the best out there for San Andreas. We love you man 🛐
this is the reason why i'm obsessed with this channel, bring the old memories and give new information at the same time
Fun fact about the night lights:
In Red Light district (GTA III) there's a building where, instead of adding the lights over the building, the complete building is replaced during nightime, there's also a few wonky things with the collision, but in an unmodded game, they work ok.
I wonder if it sets the weather to countryside when you start a new game cuz it spawns you at 0,0,0 in Blueberry and then it teleports you to LS lol
Actually that's very interesting
Likely.
No, you can see in the leaked files, the script for the begining forces that weather. And the main.scm spawns the player at Grove street.
Wait is the cutscene with CJ riding the taxi after leaving the airport set in Blueberry?
@@inzanity490If my memory is good the scene where he's arrested is located right behind his mom's house
Nothing like a TJGM video on a saturday morning!
i've honestly never heard anyone talk about those hidden speed limits in certain areas of the map before but that makes so much sense to me looking back now. i always swore i could feel cars going slower when driving around the strip, it's nice to know i'm not insane.
I love videos about technical features of videogames, especially one I hold so dearly and have played thousands of hours like GTA San Andreas
6:20 add also the fact that it removes the rain shader from all the map, not only under the bridge: Meaning that if you look outsilde from a tunner or from under a bridge, the rain effect will be gone for the whole map, until you come out again.
Yeah, I noticed the same.
I wonder if there's any mods that fix that, as well as covering places from the rain that didn't get covered in the vanilla game.
I knew that road signs weren't textures because I was playing with Map Editor and they won't show up there.
Linking the text to the roads themselves is so genius
Love this game and learning more about it. Even after 20 years, it's incredible to still be learning new things. Awesome video, this one's gonna be a hit.
The bit about the road signs is interesting, because there's quite a lot of signs over the map that Rockstar forgot to add text to. I guess fixing it shouldn't be as difficult as I thought it would be, haha.
Editing the individual models and placing the 2dfx bits one by one on every missing place, doesn't sound hard?
Or at the very least, laborious...
@@YOEL_44 Beats having to manually create textures for each individual sign and importing them into the game lol. The game already has the system for sign text in place, it's a matter of filling up the missing text. Laborious? yes, but worth it IMHO for the added immersion.
@@NicolasChiribelo I think that MagicTXD + Photoshop / GIMP / whichever-you-use is waaaaaay faster than all that juggling...
And I've been modding GTAs for over 10 years...
@YOEL_44 did you watch the video? If you edit the sign texture itself you will be editing ALL the signals in the game at the same time. Rockstar made this 2DFX system for efficiency's sake.
@@NicolasChiribelo I know, I meant that if this system wasn't in-place, it would be orders of magnitude faster to edit, tweak, fix, whatever... those signs.
GTA III, and Vice City didn't use it, try doing a speedrun on your own, editing 10 of each games' signs, you'll see what I mean.
You are excellent, TJGM . Running San Andreas with your mod guides is the greatest. Keeping these games alive and well.
Didn't the Super GT and Uranus had broken illumination value or something? I remember these cars looked a lot darker than the rest and had no reflections
Yeah, I remember that too! I always thought it was a hardware problem when I was a kid 😅
The original GTA III, Vice City and San Andreas are the reasons I still keep a fully functioning mint PS2 hooked to my bedroom TV.
Watching GTA San Andreas video after playing Manhunt 2 is like seeing a therapist.
Finally, a GTA video that is not clickbait like so many, but actually contains new stuff I haven't heard even *once* before. Thanks!
*YOU* haven't heard once before
We need mods to get Sunny Countryside weather in Los Santos during gameplay. It’s beautiful.
I really adore these type of contents, I learned so much from it! The PC Hardcoded Light Fact was the most interesting fact for me, now I know why it's important to replace the PC timecyc with the PS2 one.
There's also the borked weather type with the red sky because of a typo. 😆
Love your videos, the technical part is so interesting
That orange sunset is so damn beautiful. Another TJGM W. 🔥
Thanks for this format
This game is 20 years old
banger of a comment bro thank you
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@@timsik08 GTA SA with mods is 10000 times better than GTA V
Still a timeless classic
even without mods it's better than 5, itll be better than 6 too when that's out@@BlackSmith6969
The speedlimit was a fact well known by the stunters, it was used to check if a player was cheating or not, as reaching some area wasn't possible with the speed restriction ;) It was possible to cross the speed limit with a bike trick but the air resistance couldn't be bypass, so the top speed was limited even while doing a perfect glitch ;)
Wow that's some Vadim M level of video quality 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
1:23 i remember i used these signs to get around
CJ goes under a bridge normally
Helicopter: Alright imm head out 😃
Appreciate your work, if I had the fortune, I would surely add you on patron. Please, never stop making these.
Amazing content. Sad to see that with the coming of hardware advancement, a lot of these types of optimizations have been getting lost with time.
Can never get enough of these tech details
5:58 don't lie to me. You fumbled the jump so you cut the clip.
Awesome vid as always!
He didn't aim for the ramp, or he thought it was on the other side of the chapel lol
I didn't actually aim for the ramp. I used that same footage in my "The Hidden Speed Limits of GTA San Andreas" video, and I intentionally crashed into the church.
@@TJGM lol 🤣
Great stuff, waiting for another part of SA technical details
its interesting that the Air Resistance feature still exists in GTA5
it was added for ps3/xb360. they never removed it
@@prgaming5063 not sure what you mean as its a completely different game engine, I just meant its cool to see that they kept the trick of 'slow players down in certain areas to increase performance' with very few people actually noticing 😅
@@prgaming5063 they kept it‚ probably‚ because they want to deliver a similar feel/experience.
I love videos like this one, please make more because they are really good and interesting
1:55 Done
Love the vids
I was looking for something like this back in 2017 but the world wasnt ready for that yet hehe.
Did you know that whether you're hidden during stealth/burglary is based on the brightness setting on the PS2 version? Joshimuz found it out during Madd Doggs Rhymes in the first part of his Retro Achievements series
And then there is the definitive edition with it's technical disabilities & impeccable "attention to detail" which most newer generations will have to settle for. This 20 year old game was so far ahead of every other GTA game that It kinda makes me sad knowing we are never getting anything close to this masterpiece again (Maybe GTA VI? IDK)...
Uhmm... GTA IV and GTA V do exist‚ and both shows how much attention to detail R* can pack in their world.
What about GTA 4 and 5?
Yep 100% deficient edition
@@novawolf_gaminggood i suppose I honestly thought 4 was so boring, yea the city is definitely detailed very well, but liberty city just sucks imo, it’s not a fun location like Sa or vice city.
@N64Guy I completely disagree
The Fun is seeing how bustling the city is, how every ped has a life, they feel real
Damn, you know WAY more about San Andreas than I do, and I've been playing the game for over 10 years!, keep up the great work!.
The air resistance trick is genius!
was only just mentioned in V recently and can be drastically seen in the "High Speed Challenge" if you try to top out a BR8
I should be sleeping but I can't miss this newly released banger
I love how someone at R* spent time patching a lighting bug that only was only down to someone forgetting they turned the light source off 😂
I recently played GTA San Andreas on AetherSX2, and it looks miles better than on PC. Now I know why. Thanks for the video! ❤
the one about the helis and bridges blew my mind
Wow, from enjoying the game for 20 years to fixing the game 20 years later. Good EFFORT 👍
The speed limit thing has me wondering if there's any benefit to routing parts of speedruns to avoid them
I did knew about the road signs, and the speed limit thanks to your other video, the rest were new to me.
I wonder if the road sign system is in any way similar to GTA V's car license plate system, as the frames are different textures but the text is seperate, with modding you can also add more fictional plates like Liberty State, or real ones like UK style or the weird Russian style.
I linked this video in the Silent Patch thread on GTA Forums, so maybe Silent will fix the helicopter-bridge bug.. And then i was surprised to see you being the 2nd person who ever commented this thread, exactly 11 years ago, Dec 29 2013. Interesting coincidence!
Awesome video! 👏
6:05 So that's why some of the sidewalks makes vehicle faster
The extra air resistance is only works on the roads, not the sidewalks
Is there any mod to have thisen sunday from the beginning all the time? Or to restore it? Really good video. Sub and like. I knew the beginning of the game was unique
@TMJG Make a video showing and making available all the mods you use in Grand Theft Auto San Andreas please
Great as always👌🏼
it's been 20 years and never knew that in beginning the game using weather from countryside
Tbh I always felt something was different about the weather in general when you start new game than what is it later on, and is actually true
help i cannot unsee the floating font now
Its even worse on GTA V
3:30 I had noticed this, the sandking on PC seems to have the illumination missing as it constantly looks very dark
I always wondered why my car felt slow sometimes. Air resistance!
the entire police helicopter system is actually completely diffrent in San Andreas, in gta 3 and vc, they used their own separate npc models to chase the player down and had diffrent physics to the helicopters you could fly, these would often clip into buildings and were very slow, but it was all redone in san andreas, now the npc helis could collide with buildings and were slightly faster, but the "helicopter free zone" you mentioned in the video actually applies to vice city as well, its actually becomes ridiculous when driving at the second island where there are many bridges you go under, the police heli will just fly away constantly.
The hardcoded light is interesting because one of the things that drives me crazy in the Definitive Edition is that black as a vehicle color looks gray. Even stranger, when you paint a car black in the vehicle mod shop, it looks like a nice deep black, but as soon as you leave the mod shop and are outside, it goes back to looking gray. I just wanna recreate Alonzo’s car from Training Day but I can’t because it looks gray. It’s so lame.
Were these methods for culling rain and lighting up windows also used in VC/III?
TJGM, What mods do you use for SA?
Also cars drive faster on highways and outside of towns the accidents 😂 make a video on that pls
Next you're going to tell me you found a bald CJ
4:22 i hated that on vanilla pc. Broken lighting made npcs look like they're made of cardboard. Sometimes even cars like the Super GT didn't even cast that mild hardcoded light.
Bro, the voice sounds like a robot.
Hey! What kind of trainer do u use?
The link in the description about the previous video points to this video instead :)
Do you have any idea / theory why Rockstar didn't use the 2d rendering text method in GTA 5 ?
Thanks for your work tho ! 🤘
2:03 Where is this texture stored? I've never seen it before.
Also, notice the alien symbol at the bottom left corner. Is it actually used in any of the signs?
I can't remember exactly, but I think it's stored in particle.txd, I'd have to check to confirm though.
Also it might be used in one of the arcade games? Not sure.
about first detail = is countryside weather because first scene on airport is in interior above countryside
Now I want a mod to always put sunny countryside on LS…
The more I learn about GTA San Andreas, the more I question reality on how they managed to launch this on a PS2.. and it plays better than the versions that released after.
Cool info thanks
Hardcoding something instead of using a functionality that is already there is something programmers do all the time when they are new to a code base (or when they just dont care)
your videos are so good
This game is something else.. crazy
I always wondered why flying vehicles like planes and helicopters never had a pilot on them, what code is used for them to actually fly.
Please explain to me, why used mod skygfx can make bug sound likes vehicle. The sound in the gameplay disappears and reappears randomly. especially when driving. please provide a solution to this problem 🙏
Is there a patch to remove speed zones?
nice vid!!!
Hi, I tried contacting through the discord but its not possible to make posts for some reason, If I have Rosa inside of the modloader folder the game won't start at all, do you know how i could fix?
I currently have streaming issues on. Gta 5 but it happens more when am in loss santos
What sort of camera mod were you using when capturing SA footage?
l'd need a download for it.
www.mixmods.com.br/2022/09/sa-smooth-camera-work-camera-livre-suave-e-cleo/
i like how likes just spawn in the corner of my eye
very nice thanks
Hey it ok to do a how use mods in GTA IV ( rockstar launcher version ) and how to install the launcher ?
Now devs duplicate models and make 8K textures for a simple text.
this game is so beautiful
Bro, i've been asking for a review of MixSets by junior for two years, ugh.
Bruh the link in the description to go back to the original video is the link for this video
Hello friend, can you please answer this question?
very important
I installed a whole mod on the GTA San Andreas game so that 2 GB of RAM is no longer enough
As I go higher, there is no change in the open limit adjuster settings, can you help me?
Super good video
6:20 Bruh if this was in the Definitive Edition, there would be at least a dozen mfs calling the game unplayable, I swear
Damn that's the jankiest shit ever. I noticed the lights on the buildings are night are blue colored when they should be yellow too.
i bet san andreas will still have more features than gta 6
Hello nice videos as always! How do you edited the 2dfx roadsign file? Is that inside some .dat or .ipl hidden in the game files?
I use RWAnalyze to extract the 2DFX data, then I convert it into a readable format using DK's 2DFX tool.
You can then edit the data, convert it back into 2DFX data and import it again using RWAnalyze.
@@TJGM Thank you, I learned something new everyday
Dang, never been this early 😂
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