There is considerable controversy over who actually won this race. Officially, Ray Harroun is recognized as the winner but in reality, 2nd-place finisher Ralph Mulford may be the actual winner. Mulford finished first but was told by his team to go around the track three more times to ensure be completed the race. Meanwhile, Harroun crossed the finish line and went immediately to the winner's circle which may have led people to assume that he had won the race.
@@noviranger88 I normally don't believe in conspiracy theories but what casts doubt on the official results is that all official records of this race were destroyed the following day ostensibly to ensure that no one could ever dispute these results. IMO, it's auto racing's version of the Nixon tapes. Keep in mind that scoring in 1911 was very primitive. Basically, someone had to manually count how many times each driver went around the track. Mulford himself never disputed the results and made no claims that he was the real winner. But it's the Indy 500's habit of never overturning the official results. Remember what happened during the 2003 race between Paul Tracy and Castroneves? The closest it ever came to changing winners was 1981 and we all know how that turned out.
And to think you didn't get paid a dime back then unless you completed the full distance. But as far as burning oil, I heard there was a car in that race that burned 104 GALLONS of oil during the 500 miles. Gallons, not quarts. That's roughly two quarts per lap. Gasket and seal technology still had a ways to go...
Nah, it was still better than that back then, but the footage insicates that a driver in that much trouble might not have been "black flagged" back then. It's my speculation that not only WOULD he have, but that he'd've had to pit about every 2 laps to keep running, @ which time the CREW would've withdrawn from the race.
Great film of the 1911 500 race and the tradition continues with the 100th running of the race Sunday May 29th. According to track officials it is almost sold out as of today.
Considering modern synthetic materials and how they changed society. In 1911 the world knew only metal, wood, glass and stone. Polymers were barely available. Mainly limited to natural rubber and plant resins.
That's Bob Burman in the 45 car, he set a speed record of 141mph in 1911. By 1913-16 he developed and ran his own engine that was a Dual overhead cam, 4 valves per cylinder, Hemispherical head. (HEMI) And he was from my home town of Kingston MI.
Now, when you say that a Case raced against these Fiats and Benzes, are you referring to the Case I'm thinking of? The tractors Case? I guess they did tractors AND cars before Lamborghini.
I would love to hear about a story where it benefitted having a riding mechanic. You would think that the WASP would have registered in someone's brain.
Not unless you license it from us. Here are the details from the company that represents our footage. Thanks for asking. Sorry to take so long to get back to you. I"ve been on an extended road trip. Global ImageWorks, LLC., 65 Beacon Street Haworth, New Jersey 07641 telephone: 201-384-7715 Fax: 201-501-8971 morgan@globalimageworks.com
why did it literally take people like 60 years to realize its not safe to stand on a race track? like seriously though doesn't it seem a little ridiculous?
+Clay Thompson "Converto for Violin and Orchestra in D Major, Op. 77: III. Allegro giocoso, ma non troppo vivace" by Süddeutsche Philharmonie and Helmut Bucher
Horse PUCKEY! Even at just under 100 mph, racing these thin-tire sleds on BRICKS with no more advanced technology than there was back then was DANGEROUS BUSINESS!
Spectacular! That's the most footage I've ever seen of the 1911 race..
When a time machine is finally invented, this will be one of my first stops.
Brandon Thorvilson take a good camera!!
We've never met someone from the future
im a harroun here hello thin mcfly think
@@johnyoung2702 Or have we?
There is considerable controversy over who actually won this race. Officially, Ray Harroun is recognized as the winner but in reality, 2nd-place finisher Ralph Mulford may be the actual winner. Mulford finished first but was told by his team to go around the track three more times to ensure be completed the race. Meanwhile, Harroun crossed the finish line and went immediately to the winner's circle which may have led people to assume that he had won the race.
Interesting.
Donald Davidson said that he’s sure Harroun won.
@@noviranger88 I normally don't believe in conspiracy theories but what casts doubt on the official results is that all official records of this race were destroyed the following day ostensibly to ensure that no one could ever dispute these results. IMO, it's auto racing's version of the Nixon tapes. Keep in mind that scoring in 1911 was very primitive. Basically, someone had to manually count how many times each driver went around the track. Mulford himself never disputed the results and made no claims that he was the real winner. But it's the Indy 500's habit of never overturning the official results. Remember what happened during the 2003 race between Paul Tracy and Castroneves? The closest it ever came to changing winners was 1981 and we all know how that turned out.
Yes! Best clip I've ever seen of the race!
Ray Harroun was born in Spartansburg Pennsylvania about a 10 minute drive from my house. He still has a few family members living in town.
And to think you didn't get paid a dime back then unless you completed the full distance. But as far as burning oil, I heard there was a car in that race that burned 104 GALLONS of oil during the 500 miles. Gallons, not quarts. That's roughly two quarts per lap. Gasket and seal technology still had a ways to go...
Nah, it was still better than that back then, but the footage insicates that a driver in that much trouble might not have been "black flagged" back then.
It's my speculation that not only WOULD he have, but that he'd've had to pit about every 2 laps to keep running, @ which time the CREW would've withdrawn from the race.
Back when they had no pit crews. The mechanic simply rode the entire race with the driver in order to hopefully fix any problem that may arise. Crazy!
this is great stuff about our auto history and it's free. thanks for taking time to upload this stuff. labor is free huh. seeya
That was wonderful historic footage of the first Indianapolis 500 race! Thank you and best wishes
you can sure spot Ray Harroun near the back of the field during the parade lap, no riding mechanic AND you can see his rear view mirror too+
Great film of the 1911 500 race and the tradition continues with the 100th running of the race Sunday May 29th. According to track officials it is almost sold out as of today.
this video is really something it was so different back then to compare to today.
Ikr
Considering modern synthetic materials and how they changed society. In 1911 the world knew only metal, wood, glass and stone. Polymers were barely available. Mainly limited to natural rubber and plant resins.
The amount of smoke those crude machines made was astounding.
Saved to my playlist
Nothing like driving into the heart of a dust storm.
That was great. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for watching.
$10,000 in 1911 would be more than $250,000 today.
$ 319,329.47
in 2023.
If you want to see the Marmon Wasp, it's at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Museum
4:38 that wheel´s change are épic!
better than 50's
That's Bob Burman in the 45 car, he set a speed record of 141mph in 1911. By 1913-16 he developed and ran his own engine that was a Dual overhead cam, 4 valves per cylinder, Hemispherical head. (HEMI) And he was from my home town of Kingston MI.
I would really hate to be in the car behind the leaders. You saw nothing but smoke and dust.
Time Machine Mission 1: Bringing some of these drivers to a F1 race today.
The mechanic co driver job was to pump a pneumatic pump to keep fuel pressure up and keep oil in the drip oiler.
This' awesome!
Today (barring a red flag that stops the race), the Indianapolis "500" is completed in just three hours, give or take a few minuets either way.
+altfactor What a difference a 100 years makes.
5:15 pit stop of Ray Harround
Bob Burman in the 45 car.
They say Ray placed a rear view mirror on his car. I say it was an illegal spoiler
Now we have 100+ of these...
Now, when you say that a Case raced against these Fiats and Benzes, are you referring to the Case I'm thinking of? The tractors Case? I guess they did tractors AND cars before Lamborghini.
I wonder how people from then will react to how big and advanced motorsport has gotten.
They won't. Lol... but I wonder how they would.
Ask AJ
@@jamesdean1675 OUCH! That hurts. But, not as much as AJ would make YOU HURT after you asked that question! LOL but, not really...
$10 grand in 1911 is equal to around $270 grand in today's cash. Not bad!
I would love to hear about a story where it benefitted having a riding mechanic. You would think that the WASP would have registered in someone's brain.
Back then those cars didn't have rear view mirrors so the riding mechanic would tell the driver how close the car behind him was.
@@vernwallen4246 And I learned the Riding Mechanic operated hand pumps to pressurize fuel and oil.
Modern Racing Cars have spotters up top that radio car positions and areas to avoid. Similar idea.
How could they see where they were going?
After dirt ..the whole track ..cobblestone then bricks..1st race at the track was motorcycles
6:31 I was wondering: "What's a drag rod?" Then it hit me, that must be how they braked! HOLY SHIT!
Holy what?
@@senatorjosephmccarthy2720 Oh, sorry. I meant to say JESUS BLOODY FUCKING CHRIST ON A GOD DAMN MOTHER FUCKING EASTER STICK!
hi
can i use this film in a video clip im making for a few seconds?
tnx
Not unless you license it from us. Here are the details from the company that represents our footage. Thanks for asking. Sorry to take so long to get back to you. I"ve been on an extended road trip.
Global ImageWorks, LLC.,
65 Beacon Street
Haworth, New Jersey 07641
telephone: 201-384-7715
Fax: 201-501-8971
morgan@globalimageworks.com
The Beverly Hillbillys
4:35 Bob Burman in the 45 car.
Bricks n bad tires ....real men
why did it literally take people like 60 years to realize its not safe to stand on a race track? like seriously though doesn't it seem a little ridiculous?
Never knew that!
hi im the harrouns shane harroun nick name patrick harroun im a fan of back to the future im 11 and nice to meet yall
HAT YEA DID IT BECOME SINGLE SEATE? sos about my keyboad
was the track all brick or dirt ?
Brick.
Chalk one up for the Mormon 🤪
7:25 Of course, what constitutes a serious injury may differ today from what was considered serious back in 1911.
Lose sand and oil , what a combination !
Were any of these engines running total loss lubricant systems?
Jeff H I have no idea. Let's see if anyone can answer that.
PastExpiryDotCom Yep, ya gotta be quick!
+Jeff H: More like no oil rings on the pistons, and yes in those early days, as much castor oil as needed could be added during pit stops as well.
Art Anderson Some injected onto the crank and journals as well and it was lost.
Anyone know the music sound track?
+Clay Thompson "Converto for Violin and Orchestra in D Major, Op. 77: III. Allegro giocoso, ma non troppo vivace" by Süddeutsche Philharmonie and Helmut Bucher
Some serious oil burners here !
Steam or gasoline?
Gasoline
6:08
I saw Joe Biden in the crowd eating an ice cream cone...
What a shit show. Good thing that horse was there.
ok so if u type my name on google u see im a time traveller but yes i went in the future but not back in time
Unless someone did something foolish, driving at these speeds would be hard to wreck
Kenny Greer take into account these cars weren't really quaility built and could break down easy
Horse PUCKEY!
Even at just under 100 mph, racing these thin-tire sleds on BRICKS with no more advanced technology than there was back then was DANGEROUS BUSINESS!
So this is your first auto race?