27 for Jobe is perfect. I really like the look of this lad. Could be a special player. It is being reported they have him earmarked for defence. Would make a great CHB.
I agree but I think he kicks bags as he is an accurate shot for goal and would be a waste just back. I would seem him more like an Adam Hunter, who you could swing forward at times to pinch hit a few goals.
@@ralphgomeze8873 since my post I read that wce recruited him because Oscar’s knee has degenerated to the point of being a 38 year olds. His future is uncertain. Could be gossip. Tragic if true. Yeah he would be a great CHF. Great set shot.
@@MonsoonOzzyI hope it is gossip about Oscar. Shanahan is also a great mark. Takes it at the highest point when flying. And yes, great set shot. Steal at pick 30 as Richmond were reported to take him at pick 11.
@@MonsoonOzzyAlso, I would start Shanahan at CHB for a few games to learn craft as a forward from the best forwards. Peter Sumich played 8 games at CHB and then the footing 2 years kicked 80 and 100 goals in a season.
Great video to start my morning to. Happy to see Malakai Champion joining us. The family pic the club posted was fantastic to see. I really do have some optimism that his determination will help him succeed as a small forward.
Great video again! I have heard Malaki Champion is getting Tom Barrass's number. And everyone is your best 23 looks pretty good! cant wait for the season to start.
@ it’s a fair point. But he also had more injuries and was just older. His best physical years coincided with peak Judd and peak Cuzzy. To be fair peak Cuzzy went for about 10 years.
@@ogidy001 Cuzzy was an absolute star. I actually think its a toss up betwen Judd and him. Year in and out he played outstanding footy including the years they were struggling.
@@BDub2024 Judd was a monster at his best, ripped games to shreds. Cuzzy was amazing for a long time, people forget how good he was in the shitty period after Malthouse in the early 2000s (RIP Ken Judge).
Excellent work Jesse. It’s really good to see the growth of the team. Might be interesting to explore where you think players will be by the end of next season. Ie how much does Elijah, Harley etc improve and what might be some hidden gems.
Barnett was given a 2 year extension last year 😢 Love Shanahan to start back like Allen. Will get to see a lot more of the play. Jasper Chellappah said he’s played some games there and performed really well.
The one thing to come out of the recruitment in the off-season as we look to have at least some depth beyond the best 22 and that's critical because at the end of the day our depth was terrible for so long. I don't think we lose a lot by not having Thomas to be honest, I think Ginbey and Edwards gives us slightly better transition out of defence and that's been the problem is we can stop team scoring but we can't get the ball out of defence and that's why I'm more a fan of a running back Line than I am a big back line overall it's a significant improvement. I think it's too early to start talking about how many wins in that kind of thing I think. Let's just get a solid season under our belt where there's improvement across every line. I'd like to hopefully see Liam Ryan turn up fit I would like to see competition for places.
Brockman has so much potential. I think it might just be a mental thing? You see brief flashes of what could be but then it seems like he panics and questions himself, his confidence falters. Does anyone else agree with this? I really believe he could be great.
In the case that a key defender can't be signed, I wouldn't mind seeing Bailey Williams tried down there. First option would be to sign a key defender, although I think it could be a viable option. I know we are already slim for ruckman as well, although hopefully Matt Flynn will solidify his spot as the main ruck, as he was brought over to do so. I think Bailey Williams could make a great key defender as his best displayed attributes are his competitiveness and physicality. We've seen on numerous occasions that in pack/ contested marking situation he gets first hands to the ball but seems to always drop it on the way down. Bailey could use his athleticism to have his main focus to spoil his opponent from marking the ball by fisting every god damn entry the opposition have. He also has great endurance and wouldnt have any issues following his opponent all day long.... Thoughts?
I can't see BWilliams as a key defender. Haselby says yes. But I reckon he's too lumbering. I might be wrong. JWilliams and Maric are possible, but JWilliams has a forward's instinct. Shanahan is the man. And playing as a defender at WAFL will quicken his progress.
Fantastic assessment, Jumper numbers are a little weird as some players have a personal preference instead of a team history preference. The team is certainly looking stronger and across both sides. I feel there might be some selection surprises to come. 💙💛🦅🏆
I hate it when a former player goes to a player and says that he wants the guy to have his number. (like Shuey did to Long). A bit awkward in that you almost have to say yes. Collingwood wanted Buckley to wear 1 as he was captain, but Buckley wanted to stay at 5. Something that McGuire was trying to implement. Then Richmond wanted their captains to wear 17 (Captain Blood). But I think that tradition was short lived too.
i agree. Also how can he fit into the WAFL team's forward line. They will have 3 plus guys over 200cm in the forward line with the ball never going into the forward line. At the same time, we badly needed a key defender to replace McGovern. I reckon play him defence learn how to play against forwards (he may learn a bit of forward craft too). Then see how the draft goes in the next two years and what players are drafted as key defenders. We will also know how good that A Reid B Williams and J Williams are as key forwards by then.
The old way of having new draftees and recruits work their way up through the WAFL is Old School thinking. The new Draftees and recruits should play the first five rounds to see how they go and the older players they displace should have to earn their spot. A good example here is Ryan who has done little for 3 years so give the new bees ago.
When Mainy passed away it was reported that the number would go to our first draft pick so I would assume that would be Bo Allan now. That’s how Juddy & Gaff got the number.
What if Hamish Davis says that he wants to be 65. Do we allow it. What if he says being chosen pick 65 meant "so much". Didn't Matt Burton wear 60 at one time or am I imagining it when he was on Eagles squad. Have you seen pictures when Mal Brown wore 100.
This is true. It's really only Sheed and Flynn on the experienced side of 22. On the plus side, at least some of the new kids have played state (WAFL/VFL) and competed well. Allan, Champion, Davis and Shanahan have all had impact. But yes... You're right. And it only takes a few injuries to expose the team.
Nice summary, Jesse. I'd change Lucca Grego and Tom Gross around. I think Gross is going to be a back pocket at AFL level, while Groga is more likely to make it as a midfielder.
@@stallon720 I don't have them mixed up. I don't believe where these two players played their junior footy is where they're going to play at the top level. Roles can and do change as you move up the grades, especially when dominant juniors in a certain position aren't so dominant against professional men. I meant what I originally stated.
@@DonMoss-gw5tt I don't believe Gross' best position will be as a mainstay midfielder when he hits the AFL scene. If he plays as a midfielder, it'll be part of the B unit to give the main guys a rest, then he returns to the back pocket or half forward flank.
J Williams is the forward ruck. You don't need another. Archer Reid by the time he is 25 could be the ruckman. But thats 5 years away for his body to develop.
I'd prefer to see bo playing wafl and a veteran like hunt, petch, or Swingman like maric as sub. I think bazzo is a key back and Barnett needs to persist in the ruck. Our wafl team is looking very talented, albeit young. Hoping for a few seasoned wafl bodies to join the team (surely we negotiated that as part of staying in the wafl another 2-3 years)
yeh no rush to play league footy. I reckon he should focus on making the wing his own. so in a sense needs more experience in that role. we dont need another half back.
A lot of the games he was playing forward line at WAFL and then ended up in defence. Poor development. Livingstone and Flynn were rucking. Barnett needs to be rucking full time. If Bwilliams goes back then he plays forward.
Maric isn't quick enough. I don't think he plays the chaotic crash and bang style to be a mid under mini. He could do half back, but we're already stacking half backs.
Imo these picks leave us with a stagnant team. After performances last year and the pick ups this year I think we would be moving backwards not playing Dewar. And I honestly think Malakai will be the best player out of our draft this year, I believe he has natural talent to be able to swim in the deep end
Dewar is a good player and he should be developed as a wing or half back. That's the thing. We're stacking our backline with experienced guys when we should be bringing young guys through there.
People are unnecessarily positive about Hutchinson. Isn't he 23. He grew late and only joined the system late. But its based on one good half for the Eagles. His running is excellent and I noticed that he kept going to the right places at the right time (which Chesser struggles with). But he needs to improve ball control which may happen by being in the system. But he isn't really top 23 yet.
@@TrevorPhilipsBro he isn't an opportunist forward. not tall enough or bulky enough. he is doing some defensive work, which is good except we're training about 8 guys to fit within 3 small defender positions down back. he needs time to genuinely learn midfield craft at WAFL and come in when ready.
Id rather give J.Williams the 17, frees up 34 for Graham too. Baker can have the 23 imo, and save the 3 for our first pick next year and 4 for Warner if we get him. I think Ginbey will be that 3rd tall(I dont believe hes his listed 191cm for a second, hes closer to 194cm), Maric in the backline too makes us land of the giants back there with 5 defenders over 190cm. I think Ginbey and Maric cant be in the same backline alongside 2 genuine KPDs. If we want an younger good kick from the backline im looking at Johnston, Chesser(hes actually a decent kick), or even one of our small forwards(I think Brockman would be great here). Put Maric back on a wing imo, take Hunt out of there
he's 191cm. i saw him at the wafl grand final this year. while i didn't tower over him, I was definitely taller than him. jury is out whether he can use his body to play on taller players. I'd like him ultimately up the field, but a running half back is fine at the moment. We ultimately need to develop guys. If we need a third tall then play Bazzo.
I reckon Hunt should be one of the half backs. But that means Duggan needs to go into the midfield and maybe even move Cole up the field or onto the bench. I don't really understand why you'd have Baker at half back when they are so poor at defensive pressure in midfield and upforward. Mind you they are after Baker's footy intelligence and skills off half back. But for mine, I'd rather he was at the source of the issues, rather than clean up the mess.
@@stallon720 He is very important but certainly by 2026 they may need to transition him. He came fourth in the john worsfold medal in 2023 you know. Started this yer really well until he injured his foot but still forced himself back into the team when he recovered.
hopefully. But that means Barnet will ruck in the ressies (which he should), and A Reid Livingstone and B Williams are playing in the forward line. Which ensures that Shanahan will be in defence with Jamieson and Bazzo. Truly our midfield at WAFL is atrocious
@@BDub2024 yep, land of the giants. Shanahan learning down back will work out I think. I agree our midfield last year was awful, then take out trew, culley….replaced by chesser, hall, gross and Davis. Oh boy!!
Tom Cole is a very important defensive pressure. I would definitely have him in. But I do think if they keep stacking the defence with Ginbey, Hunt, Hough, Duggan, Baker into 3 spots then players will be forced out. I reckon our midfield is too weak and they'll need to have Baker and Duggan in there.
Noah Long is already a better footballer than Owies let alone he's also a possible future captain and we're rebuilding. People always assume recruits are stars...carlton have two coleman medalists and still don't score much. Owies was part of a highly dysfunctional forward line. They were gonna sack him
Disagree. He is quality. I reckon they missed a trick moving him as a defensive forward or mid later in the season. You know the guy will tackle and give 100%. It also sends a message to the glamorous forwards and front running mids that don't man up and give defensive pressure. They see Cole playing there, when they (Brockman and co) are playing reserves. It can have a sobering up reaction. A guy is getting a game in their place and actually tackling. And Mini can back that up and say thats what he's actually after. I reckon it can make a big difference if a guy. is being replaced by someone (Cole/Baker/Graham) who is clearly doing what the coaches want.
@BDub2024 doesn't matter, he doesn't get enough of the ball to he effective, watching a different game to me, watch how many goals get kicked on him, tackling doesn't mean shit if your player is kicking goals on you
@@brettgleadell3576 i reckon he's an important player, but look spots will be limited with Ginbey and Baker down back. Especially if they're also wanting to expose another kid or two. I think criticising defenders isn't exactly fair when the mids and small forwards are giving no pressure at all. I'd be giving the games to the guys that are wanting to create pressure and let the guys that are slack learn a hard lesson which is a season in the reserves. Cole didn't really benefit from Simmo only playing him in one role, which was one of Simmo's flaws in pigeon holing players too much.
@@brettgleadell3576 if he is to survive in the list he needs to prove versatility. In recent years he has been an important role player. Schofield missed a trick last year not playing him across half forward when it was bleeding obvious in some games that guys like Brockman Jones Ryan Petch didn't want to chase and tackle and play "team defence". Put those guys back to reserves immediately. Play Cole and similar types in their positions and then tell the slackers that if they don't do the same, then they won't be getting a game. Can be quite a powerful motivator, Especially when their replacement is so obviously is and is getting rewarded. The other trick missed was not putting Hough on a wing for the last 5 matches or so. The season was gone, hough played great as a shut down defender and got good experience. It was a chance to grow another young shut down player and at same time give Hough more time on the wing to show if he had what it takes. I suggest he does.
@BDub2024 I agree he needs some time as a full time ruck, but I don't see how that happens at West coast when Williams and Flynn probably can't play in the afl team together like Jesse says, so one of them takes the wafl spot, and there are other young guys who also can play ruck. so it wouldn't surprise me at all if in a year or two Barnett hasn't really had a proper go and the crows go for him. we were heavily linked during his draft year and he is clearly talented.
@@anappropriatehandle BWilliams needs to play as a forward or defender at WAFL. Or alternatively they need to loan him to another WAFL team. I think Livingstone is taking up valuable time, but he seems to have more intensity and is getting rewarded.
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It’s always good to see a true eagle video in the morning. Keep it up Jesse!
27 for Jobe is perfect. I really like the look of this lad. Could be a special player.
It is being reported they have him earmarked for defence. Would make a great CHB.
Reckon he is going to turn into a real unit
I agree but I think he kicks bags as he is an accurate shot for goal and would be a waste just back. I would seem him more like an Adam Hunter, who you could swing forward at times to pinch hit a few goals.
@@ralphgomeze8873 since my post I read that wce recruited him because Oscar’s knee has degenerated to the point of being a 38 year olds. His future is uncertain. Could be gossip. Tragic if true. Yeah he would be a great CHF. Great set shot.
@@MonsoonOzzyI hope it is gossip about Oscar. Shanahan is also a great mark. Takes it at the highest point when flying. And yes, great set shot. Steal at pick 30 as Richmond were reported to take him at pick 11.
@@MonsoonOzzyAlso, I would start Shanahan at CHB for a few games to learn craft as a forward from the best forwards. Peter Sumich played 8 games at CHB and then the footing 2 years kicked 80 and 100 goals in a season.
Jackson Nelson mentioned in the same breath as Peter Matera😂
Judd Nelson never quite was good enough. Mind you he would have been very useful in 2023 when the side fell apart.
@@Rb-fp7mw this did make my smile when I heard it too.
The team is starting to look pretty good. Thanks Jesse enjoy your weekend.
Great video to start my morning to. Happy to see Malakai Champion joining us. The family pic the club posted was fantastic to see. I really do have some optimism that his determination will help him succeed as a small forward.
I’m 99% sure owies is 16, went to open training the other day and he signed my jumper with 16 on the signature and he wasn’t that at Carlton
Actually looks like selection pressure now on the squad and no Simmo purple circle. Pressure is on.
Great video. Keep up the good work!
Great video again!
I have heard Malaki Champion is getting Tom Barrass's number.
And everyone is your best 23 looks pretty good! cant wait for the season to start.
Maric was training as a forward yesterday in the training notes so I truly believe we really don’t know where the hell he’s playing haha😅
I heard that Mini likes "swingmen" in the Adam Hunter mode. So guys will be playing up forward and down back.
Hope you are well Jesse - Good Draft for us Jess
Cripps and Ryan....will need to lift
The difference between this side and any other current AFL team is 100% between the ears.
Daniel Kerr is criminally underrated by AFL history books
Yeah totally.
i was a fan of his, but when judd and/or cuzzy weren't there, he wasn't quite the same player. plus he's a brother of sam kerr.
@ it’s a fair point. But he also had more injuries and was just older. His best physical years coincided with peak Judd and peak Cuzzy. To be fair peak Cuzzy went for about 10 years.
@@ogidy001 Cuzzy was an absolute star. I actually think its a toss up betwen Judd and him. Year in and out he played outstanding footy including the years they were struggling.
@@BDub2024 Judd was a monster at his best, ripped games to shreds. Cuzzy was amazing for a long time, people forget how good he was in the shitty period after Malthouse in the early 2000s (RIP Ken Judge).
It's so fucking good to have some actual depth again
Excellent work Jesse. It’s really good to see the growth of the team. Might be interesting to explore where you think players will be by the end of next season. Ie how much does Elijah, Harley etc improve and what might be some hidden gems.
Barnett was given a 2 year extension last year 😢
Love Shanahan to start back like Allen. Will get to see a lot more of the play. Jasper Chellappah said he’s played some games there and performed really well.
The one thing to come out of the recruitment in the off-season as we look to have at least some depth beyond the best 22 and that's critical because at the end of the day our depth was terrible for so long. I don't think we lose a lot by not having Thomas to be honest, I think Ginbey and Edwards gives us slightly better transition out of defence and that's been the problem is we can stop team scoring but we can't get the ball out of defence and that's why I'm more a fan of a running back Line than I am a big back line overall it's a significant improvement. I think it's too early to start talking about how many wins in that kind of thing I think. Let's just get a solid season under our belt where there's improvement across every line. I'd like to hopefully see Liam Ryan turn up fit I would like to see competition for places.
Thanks for the season Jessie, and welcome back to WA when it happens. Hoping you can get to some games at the Stadium in 2025!
Brockman has so much potential. I think it might just be a mental thing? You see brief flashes of what could be but then it seems like he panics and questions himself, his confidence falters. Does anyone else agree with this? I really believe he could be great.
Ben McKinley was another who wore 27
In the case that a key defender can't be signed, I wouldn't mind seeing Bailey Williams tried down there. First option would be to sign a key defender, although I think it could be a viable option. I know we are already slim for ruckman as well, although hopefully Matt Flynn will solidify his spot as the main ruck, as he was brought over to do so. I think Bailey Williams could make a great key defender as his best displayed attributes are his competitiveness and physicality. We've seen on numerous occasions that in pack/ contested marking situation he gets first hands to the ball but seems to always drop it on the way down. Bailey could use his athleticism to have his main focus to spoil his opponent from marking the ball by fisting every god damn entry the opposition have. He also has great endurance and wouldnt have any issues following his opponent all day long.... Thoughts?
Claremont Clancy Dennis could get a Rookie spot . Was All Australian and an intercept mark.
I can't see BWilliams as a key defender. Haselby says yes. But I reckon he's too lumbering. I might be wrong. JWilliams and Maric are possible, but JWilliams has a forward's instinct. Shanahan is the man. And playing as a defender at WAFL will quicken his progress.
Bo starts on the field in backline, Cole in reserves, Maric bench. Sub is Chesser or swap for Hunt.
The WAFL team actually looks reasonable. Soooo important we have a workable reserves side to give these kids confidence and development
Ben McKinley had 27 between Jakovich and Darling, I think
Thanks Jesse
Happy birthday mate!!🎉
17 for maric!!
Fantastic assessment, Jumper numbers are a little weird as some players have a personal preference instead of a team history preference.
The team is certainly looking stronger and across both sides.
I feel there might be some selection surprises to come.
💙💛🦅🏆
I hate it when a former player goes to a player and says that he wants the guy to have his number. (like Shuey did to Long). A bit awkward in that you almost have to say yes. Collingwood wanted Buckley to wear 1 as he was captain, but Buckley wanted to stay at 5. Something that McGuire was trying to implement. Then Richmond wanted their captains to wear 17 (Captain Blood). But I think that tradition was short lived too.
@BDub2024 too true, so glad it is not like the NRL Were positions have specific numbers
Footy stuff did say some recruiters believe Shanahans best position could be in defence
i agree. Also how can he fit into the WAFL team's forward line. They will have 3 plus guys over 200cm in the forward line with the ball never going into the forward line. At the same time, we badly needed a key defender to replace McGovern. I reckon play him defence learn how to play against forwards (he may learn a bit of forward craft too). Then see how the draft goes in the next two years and what players are drafted as key defenders. We will also know how good that A Reid B Williams and J Williams are as key forwards by then.
Oh maaan, killer video as always. Honestly I'd have Duggan and Cole out very swiftly, they need to start strong I think.
The old way of having new draftees and recruits work their way up through the WAFL is Old School thinking. The new Draftees and recruits should play the first five rounds to see how they go and the older players they displace should have to earn their spot. A good example here is Ryan who has done little for 3 years so give the new bees ago.
We will be betting the farm on Warner next year so let’s hope these boys gel asap.
When Mainy passed away it was reported that the number would go to our first draft pick so I would assume that would be Bo Allan now. That’s how Juddy & Gaff got the number.
H Edwards into 31 keep it down back!
Best 22 Lacks running power and needs to drop a tall.
Eagles best 22 starting to look pretty solid 👀
Looking solid? It's the worst best 22 in the league by some distance. Richmond already passed the eagles in the rebuild now as well.
What if Hamish Davis says that he wants to be 65. Do we allow it. What if he says being chosen pick 65 meant "so much". Didn't Matt Burton wear 60 at one time or am I imagining it when he was on Eagles squad. Have you seen pictures when Mal Brown wore 100.
If the team stays fit... Surely our WAFL team is competitive next year.
It’s just very young…without Rotham, Witherden, Edward’s etc they are now a bunch of kids. I have grave fears
This is true. It's really only Sheed and Flynn on the experienced side of 22. On the plus side, at least some of the new kids have played state (WAFL/VFL) and competed well. Allan, Champion, Davis and Shanahan have all had impact. But yes... You're right. And it only takes a few injuries to expose the team.
@@markbutler9604yeah a couple of injuries, and it could go back to 2022 areas…🤞🏼
Nice summary, Jesse. I'd change Lucca Grego and Tom Gross around. I think Gross is going to be a back pocket at AFL level, while Groga is more likely to make it as a midfielder.
I think you have the 2 players mixed up. Grego played a lot at half back this year, Gross was exclusively mid or half forward
@@stallon720 I don't have them mixed up. I don't believe where these two players played their junior footy is where they're going to play at the top level. Roles can and do change as you move up the grades, especially when dominant juniors in a certain position aren't so dominant against professional men. I meant what I originally stated.
Gross made the all-Australian side as a mid.
@@DonMoss-gw5tt I don't believe Gross' best position will be as a mainstay midfielder when he hits the AFL scene. If he plays as a midfielder, it'll be part of the B unit to give the main guys a rest, then he returns to the back pocket or half forward flank.
jack Williams could develop into a rowan Marshall type player. Not the best with hitouts but great around the ground.
J Williams is the forward ruck. You don't need another. Archer Reid by the time he is 25 could be the ruckman. But thats 5 years away for his body to develop.
I have confidence Jamieson will make it as a KPD as well as Bazzo, so I don’t think things are quite as bad as they may appear atm.
Hated the end of Cripps year last year. The ice is super thin..
I'd prefer to see bo playing wafl and a veteran like hunt, petch, or Swingman like maric as sub. I think bazzo is a key back and Barnett needs to persist in the ruck. Our wafl team is looking very talented, albeit young. Hoping for a few seasoned wafl bodies to join the team (surely we negotiated that as part of staying in the wafl another 2-3 years)
yeh no rush to play league footy. I reckon he should focus on making the wing his own. so in a sense needs more experience in that role. we dont need another half back.
Bo and Davis are gonna be banging on the door by round 1. Cripps has to perform and so does Cole
And Long and Hewitt and Dewar and Ryan in particular. Brockman could have a long wait in the ressies.
I really want barnett to develop into a ruck, are rucks suck at the minute and if we wanna compete in the future we gotta upgrade that position
A lot of the games he was playing forward line at WAFL and then ended up in defence. Poor development. Livingstone and Flynn were rucking. Barnett needs to be rucking full time. If Bwilliams goes back then he plays forward.
I look at the Western Australia Australian WAFL team and at least there's five or six guys in there that can play AFL now
Keep Maric on the wing are father and son prospect next year is a third tall🙏
Maric isn't quick enough. I don't think he plays the chaotic crash and bang style to be a mid under mini. He could do half back, but we're already stacking half backs.
Imo these picks leave us with a stagnant team. After performances last year and the pick ups this year I think we would be moving backwards not playing Dewar. And I honestly think Malakai will be the best player out of our draft this year, I believe he has natural talent to be able to swim in the deep end
Dewar is a good player and he should be developed as a wing or half back. That's the thing. We're stacking our backline with experienced guys when we should be bringing young guys through there.
Clay hall surly gets a gig next year
Apparently Liam Baker will wear 3.
and be possible future captain. A bit awkward for Oscar's ego. Digger Duggan would understand and he's a year old or so.
Cripps need more time in my opinion
SSP Supplemental Selection Period
Dewar should go to 44. and actually go backward to the number made famous by Wirrpanda.
People are unnecessarily positive about Hutchinson. Isn't he 23. He grew late and only joined the system late. But its based on one good half for the Eagles. His running is excellent and I noticed that he kept going to the right places at the right time (which Chesser struggles with). But he needs to improve ball control which may happen by being in the system. But he isn't really top 23 yet.
Agree. He doesnt look AFL standard from what Ive seen.
@@TrevorPhilipsBro he isn't an opportunist forward. not tall enough or bulky enough. he is doing some defensive work, which is good except we're training about 8 guys to fit within 3 small defender positions down back. he needs time to genuinely learn midfield craft at WAFL and come in when ready.
I think Hutchison looks good, he was very good against Geelong, we need to play the younger guys
you should do a podcast brother
Id rather give J.Williams the 17, frees up 34 for Graham too. Baker can have the 23 imo, and save the 3 for our first pick next year and 4 for Warner if we get him.
I think Ginbey will be that 3rd tall(I dont believe hes his listed 191cm for a second, hes closer to 194cm), Maric in the backline too makes us land of the giants back there with 5 defenders over 190cm. I think Ginbey and Maric cant be in the same backline alongside 2 genuine KPDs.
If we want an younger good kick from the backline im looking at Johnston, Chesser(hes actually a decent kick), or even one of our small forwards(I think Brockman would be great here).
Put Maric back on a wing imo, take Hunt out of there
he's 191cm. i saw him at the wafl grand final this year. while i didn't tower over him, I was definitely taller than him. jury is out whether he can use his body to play on taller players. I'd like him ultimately up the field, but a running half back is fine at the moment. We ultimately need to develop guys. If we need a third tall then play Bazzo.
I reckon Hunt should be one of the half backs. But that means Duggan needs to go into the midfield and maybe even move Cole up the field or onto the bench. I don't really understand why you'd have Baker at half back when they are so poor at defensive pressure in midfield and upforward. Mind you they are after Baker's footy intelligence and skills off half back. But for mine, I'd rather he was at the source of the issues, rather than clean up the mess.
@@BDub2024 we don't have room for Baker in the middle or up forward. Do a best 22, there is just no room
@BDub2024 hunt isn't that good. I'd be fine with him playing wafl or being depth
@@stallon720 He is very important but certainly by 2026 they may need to transition him. He came fourth in the john worsfold medal in 2023 you know. Started this yer really well until he injured his foot but still forced himself back into the team when he recovered.
What if Oscar Allan injured?
Acher ried
Archer Reid or B Williams.
Backer is getting 3 apprently
Trade oscar/ let Oscar go to free agency.. Will get some decent picks for him
I agree, just too many forwards right now.
Gee our team is poo on paper
Matt Flynn is in the 22
if he gets his body right.
I agree
hopefully. But that means Barnet will ruck in the ressies (which he should), and A Reid Livingstone and B Williams are playing in the forward line. Which ensures that Shanahan will be in defence with Jamieson and Bazzo. Truly our midfield at WAFL is atrocious
@@BDub2024 yep, land of the giants. Shanahan learning down back will work out I think. I agree our midfield last year was awful, then take out trew, culley….replaced by chesser, hall, gross and Davis. Oh boy!!
@@deanbeissel2807 Remember Nelson and that other guy from Collingwood has left to East Freo.
Bailey Williams and Tom Cole shouldn’t be in this team at all
Who else will ruck though
@@jogon9649Flynn
Cole does alot of work that you don't see . Williams despite his best efforts isn't a ruckman probably a good WAFL player.
Tom Cole is a very important defensive pressure. I would definitely have him in. But I do think if they keep stacking the defence with Ginbey, Hunt, Hough, Duggan, Baker into 3 spots then players will be forced out. I reckon our midfield is too weak and they'll need to have Baker and Duggan in there.
Noah Long is already a better footballer than Owies let alone he's also a possible future captain and we're rebuilding. People always assume recruits are stars...carlton have two coleman medalists and still don't score much. Owies was part of a highly dysfunctional forward line. They were gonna sack him
Baker got 3
I think you should add Jobe Shanahan as sub not Bo Allen
Jobe needs a year or two at WAFL playing in defence. Allen needs time to develop midfield craft at WAFL. What's the rush with any of those guys.
Bo Allan in the 13
Noah long was given 13
@user-cp4os6ws1t dam I forgot lol well I like Allan at 23
Never been Tom Cole. fan.....not a lock down or running defender and gets a lot of goals kicked on him
Disagree. He is quality. I reckon they missed a trick moving him as a defensive forward or mid later in the season. You know the guy will tackle and give 100%. It also sends a message to the glamorous forwards and front running mids that don't man up and give defensive pressure. They see Cole playing there, when they (Brockman and co) are playing reserves. It can have a sobering up reaction. A guy is getting a game in their place and actually tackling. And Mini can back that up and say thats what he's actually after. I reckon it can make a big difference if a guy. is being replaced by someone (Cole/Baker/Graham) who is clearly doing what the coaches want.
@BDub2024 doesn't matter, he doesn't get enough of the ball to he effective, watching a different game to me, watch how many goals get kicked on him, tackling doesn't mean shit if your player is kicking goals on you
@@brettgleadell3576 i reckon he's an important player, but look spots will be limited with Ginbey and Baker down back. Especially if they're also wanting to expose another kid or two. I think criticising defenders isn't exactly fair when the mids and small forwards are giving no pressure at all. I'd be giving the games to the guys that are wanting to create pressure and let the guys that are slack learn a hard lesson which is a season in the reserves. Cole didn't really benefit from Simmo only playing him in one role, which was one of Simmo's flaws in pigeon holing players too much.
@@brettgleadell3576 if he is to survive in the list he needs to prove versatility. In recent years he has been an important role player. Schofield missed a trick last year not playing him across half forward when it was bleeding obvious in some games that guys like Brockman Jones Ryan Petch didn't want to chase and tackle and play "team defence". Put those guys back to reserves immediately. Play Cole and similar types in their positions and then tell the slackers that if they don't do the same, then they won't be getting a game. Can be quite a powerful motivator, Especially when their replacement is so obviously is and is getting rewarded. The other trick missed was not putting Hough on a wing for the last 5 matches or so. The season was gone, hough played great as a shut down defender and got good experience. It was a chance to grow another young shut down player and at same time give Hough more time on the wing to show if he had what it takes. I suggest he does.
@BDub2024 definitely our best young player at the moment (hough)
bruh if Barnett is playing key back he'll definitely leave
Where, i don't think anyone would want him. He had like 4 waffle games with 1 kick. if I was him, I would play in any position to improve.
@therealHarleyReid crows need a young ruck, it'd actually help his performance if he was played in position
Barnett has another 2 years. He spent a lot of the year forward pocket. a bit of an inconsistent year. He needs 12 months rucking full time.
@BDub2024 I agree he needs some time as a full time ruck, but I don't see how that happens at West coast when Williams and Flynn probably can't play in the afl team together like Jesse says, so one of them takes the wafl spot, and there are other young guys who also can play ruck. so it wouldn't surprise me at all if in a year or two Barnett hasn't really had a proper go and the crows go for him. we were heavily linked during his draft year and he is clearly talented.
@@anappropriatehandle BWilliams needs to play as a forward or defender at WAFL. Or alternatively they need to loan him to another WAFL team. I think Livingstone is taking up valuable time, but he seems to have more intensity and is getting rewarded.
Long for Cripps