@@mrgurulittle7000 Which of the competing cars are you talking about because this doesn't even hold a candle to the Chevy Bolt! The only people buying this car will be Toyota cult followers. Anyone else who knows anything about electric cars will stay away. As well they should.
@@treads2595 Chevy Bolt is not the competition. Audi, BMW, and Mercedes is the competition. And as far as price, range and features, this car is up there with the Germans. Average range for German luxury marques is 200-250 miles. This is 220 miles.
@@mrgurulittle7000 That is exactly my point. The fact that you can buy a much cheaper car and get better specs is frankly, embarrassing not only for Toyota, but for the Germans as well.
This class of eSUV ($60,000+) really need to be north of a 300 mile range, preferably approaching 400 miles. Otherwise, not a bad vehicle. It's a Lexus!
@@allentoyokawa9068 I agree. This going on about range is tiresome. This is one of the most compelling BEVs that have come out. It has almost none of the nonsense of most of the BEVs that are out that either have excessive performance or gimmick after gimmick. This is a very sensible premium car. The only nonsense I see is the fake sound in sports mode.
@ac the newer models are built better and more people will notice how well tesla still runs while the Tesla will have maintenance issues because of poor design.
@@ConsoleCombat let me add all toyota EVs have been abolute mediocre. Even Toyota was in wonder when they took apart a model y. The interiors last and you get a panoramic roof for free. Toyota and everyone else make you buy the highest trim level. Also charge speed is poor. Battery preconditioning hasn't been mentioned wonder why. The cheap plastic doesn't make the interior cool.
@@ConsoleCombatThere's one big divider separating Tesla from Toyota/Lexus right now. That's road trips. People who never drive long distances will be ok with the Toyota for many years. People who take trips will discover the BZ4X or RZ 450 to be very limiting. Like, very very limiting. On the other hand, Tesla makes the best EVs for road tripping hands down. On Bjørn Nyland's 1,000km challenge, Model 3 takes about 9-1/2 hours, Toyota takes 14-1/2 hours. That's a big difference.
@@ConsoleCombat the build of the car isn't bad. That is such an odd thing to say. The panel gaps so far are not good. The comfort is ok and since the suspension change in late 2022 the drive is more compliant. I've driven serveral and it's noticeable. Lexus interior has nice stitching and is comfortable. But hey, it's a gas car right? Me, I like the bmws idrive, audio and button placement and controls better. Everyone has their favorite.
Since its basically a bZ4x it really needs to go through a charging test before, God forbid, people start placing orders for them. Check out Bjorn Nyland's recent video on that car and all the trouble he had with charging.
220 miles claimed range, probably around 190 in real-world use, then drop that quite a bit for daily use when charging to a recommended max of 80%. And top that off with the usual 40-50% drop in range if you live in a colder climate, and the range of this thing really isn’t much more than 100 miles in real-world wintertime use. That is pretty darn sad! If range is a consideration, this is not a good choice.
I think you're making alot of assumptions and arriving at a worst case scenario. However, let me offer a real-world example. I used to have a 150mile nissan leaf. left my house with 100% charge on a 15F day, drove 75 miles total with the heater blasting at 75mph before i got the battery power warning. THe leaf battery system has no pre-heating, no temp management, and is known for being terrible in the cold. So that was 5 years ago. I'm sure Toyota is going to be better than this. That said, yes, winter range will suffer as it doesn in all EV....but I doubt half.
@@IndefiniteGentlemen 100% charge will kill battery - for longevity set max charge to 80%. Doing the math on that will make it clear what a dog this is.
@@IndefiniteGentlemen No assumptions, I based my comment on my experience with my ‘22 RWD long-range Ioniq 5 SEL that does not have any battery pre-conditioning capability. Theoretical range: 303 miles Normal 80% range in warm weather: 210 miles Normal 80% range in cold weather: 170 miles These are significant reductions from the claimed range, but are not out of the ordinary at all, it’s just something you have to learn and learn how to deal with it. I do not dislike my car at all, I just wish for more honesty in what the car makers are claiming. Like Hyundai claiming 303 miles in range, but in the fine print telling me to only charge to 100% on extremely rare occasions and only charge to 80% for daily use. That is a significant hit. Lexus is doing the same thing here.
You do understand that this is Toyota/ Lexus we are talking about. A company that ensures that they test everything to near engineering perfection. Do not confuse this with another car brand that over promises and underperforms
Hello Tommy. Thanks for your review of the Lexus RZ450e. After we bought our first Toyota, a LC 150, we have only had Toyota and Lexus. Their service level, the reliability and the way they are holding the value are completely unique. We have just had normal service and maintanace and have never had other costs. And Toyota learned a lot from the development of Lexus which had fantastic comfort and hybrid drive trains from the RX400h from around 2005. I became completely disabled and bedridden from the corona vaccine, and isn't able to drive. I'm just able to be a passanger, but in my disabled I need a high comfort level without noice and vibratilns, My wife is driving an UX300e Luxury where I can take part in short trips. The longer trips for my wife is to visit family, which is only aprox 150 miles and we are always charging over night in visit by each other. Either the new UX300e or RZ450e where both now have the same range, would be a suitable car for her, and maybe once I will be able to travel with her to visit family. I understand the focus on range, but for much people like it is for my wife and me, it's much more importent with driving comfort. But because of both range and comfort I would never use other than 18" wheels on the RZ. Thanks for your reviews,
In the market for a new car and decided to go with an EV this time. Have a Lyriq preordered since May 2022 and depending on how much more it's delayed (hearing Q4 2023 or early 2025 delivery now), might just go with the RZ instead...assuming it isn't similarly delayed. The range and lack of EV tax credit qualification hurts and definitely brings it to a trailing 2nd place compared to the Lyriq, but overall do dig basically everything else of the vehicle.
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada this ev is already available at selected dealers and my sister in Vancouver has booked a road test to retire her toyota venza V6 thanks for sharing
Not bad looking, but it seems like it’s a more Prius-like in being underpowered with below average range. This is the reason Toyota had to push out their now former CEO.
To say this car is underpowered is ridiculous. 5 seconds or under 0-60 is plenty of power. Anything quicker than that is overkill for this type of vehicle.
Don't do touch "buttons" on the steering wheel. It needs a glovebox and a rear wiper. It's not the ~100-mile-range of the Mazda EV, but range does matter.
yet Toyota put in radiant heating and a variable steer by wire system into this platform. This 5 years behind (whatever that's supposed to mean) platform. Yes, Hyundai/Kia have 800 volt and you can power things from them. Nice. Tesla has sentry mode and so forth. Nice. But Toyota did put in radiant heating and variable steer by wire and the others did not.
So many much better choices out there for less money. Toyota/Lexus demonstrating that they can’t make a competitive all electric vehicle. They demonstrate no real innovation and don’t even seem to be able to imitate/follow the leaders, bad combination. Not looking good for them.
Yet another luxury electric car. Why are the vast majority of electric cars manufactured and advertised as luxury cars? If electric is the way of the future, they are sure making it hard for regular folk to go electric…
This would sell if it's $10K less than a Model Y. On every single metric it is a failure compared to even Hyundai electric vehicles. What you failed to mention is, what happens to this paltry range in cold weather. You'd be lucky if you can go from Long Island to Manhattan and back home without having to supercharge, but in this particular case it doesn't supercharge at all in the cold just like the Toyota BZ4X AWD. Who in their right minds would pay this amount of money for a vehicle that's their third or fourth? Also, it's disingenuous that all of these companies claim that there's greens are 14 inches or 15 in, the expectation being a 15-in laptop screen size but instead what you get is some elongated nonsense because obviously it's measured diagonally. It is far from even being efficient with a 71 kilowatt hour battery to only go 200 mi is ridiculous! Also, what I'm seeing more in the industry is when people say 10% to 80% charging in 30 minutes. That's basically 70% charge in 30 minutes that ONLY ADDS 140 miles of range❗ keep in mind that's I'm sure when it's decent weather nowhere close to freezing. This is basically like a souped-up golf cart at best. You've exhausted it by the time you've hit 18 holes.... There is NOTHING luxury about rang anxiety and you most definitely would have that in this vehicle.
Lol Toyota wants to make sure potential buyers have range anxiety so they offer free use of an ICE loaner for when this sad thing won’t make it. Further proof they are being dragged kicking and screaming into the future.
He liked the car. He didn't like the range. And the Lexus version is more refined and more powerful. Beyond the range and charging, the Lexus is a very nice automobile. And for some, if they can charge at home and don't take the car road tripping, the range and charging are OK.
@@benjaminsmith2287 yeah the range in any cold environment is gonna be bad but if you pay for that car then you would expect to be able to use it not just from home to work….IMO.
I love way better this RZ that all the Tesla junk. Well, if you had ever take seat in a Lexus, you understand that is way ahead Tesla in build quality and refinement. Tesla are making cheap car at prohibitive price, just take a look at their profit, its outrageous that people still buy them when they take 20-30% markup and continue cutting cost on quality and assembly. In the long run, this one will probably keep 95% charge over 10 years and 400-500k miles, not so sure about other EV out there, especially the Tesla that run on supercharger all year long. Keep in mind this one have a Panasonic battery, this thing will run forever !
Thanks but no thanks. Too many stupid gimmicks like the door handles and not enough range to be relevant in 2023 either. Toyota seriously needs to get their 💩 together with EVs because this is pathetic
For that range and charging time, should not cost more than $35k.
umm it is worth every penny you loof
It’s priced at the competition because it offers as much as the competition.
@@mrgurulittle7000 Which of the competing cars are you talking about because this doesn't even hold a candle to the Chevy Bolt! The only people buying this car will be Toyota cult followers. Anyone else who knows anything about electric cars will stay away. As well they should.
@@treads2595 Chevy Bolt is not the competition. Audi, BMW, and Mercedes is the competition. And as far as price, range and features, this car is up there with the Germans. Average range for German luxury marques is 200-250 miles. This is 220 miles.
@@mrgurulittle7000 That is exactly my point. The fact that you can buy a much cheaper car and get better specs is frankly, embarrassing not only for Toyota, but for the Germans as well.
Drove this and the Tesla Model Y. Decided to purchase the RZ 450e. Felt better and the 220mi range is more than enough for me
Felt the same way when I test rode both and got the 450e. What a great and beautiful vehicle.
This class of eSUV ($60,000+) really need to be north of a 300 mile range, preferably approaching 400 miles. Otherwise, not a bad vehicle. It's a Lexus!
Most electric vehicles will outlast a gas Lexus as they are so much simpler
The range is fine
@@bartwaggoner2000 Lets see how that plays out in 20 years.
@@allentoyokawa9068 I agree. This going on about range is tiresome. This is one of the most compelling BEVs that have come out. It has almost none of the nonsense of most of the BEVs that are out that either have excessive performance or gimmick after gimmick. This is a very sensible premium car. The only nonsense I see is the fake sound in sports mode.
Over 300 mile range with AWD included
If this is the best that Toyota/Lexus can offer, I think the Tesla Model Y has nothing to be worried about.
@ac the newer models are built better and more people will notice how well tesla still runs while the Tesla will have maintenance issues because of poor design.
@@ConsoleCombat that's not been the history. Teslas have endured. Mechanical issues have been few for most drivers.
@@ConsoleCombat let me add all toyota EVs have been abolute mediocre. Even Toyota was in wonder when they took apart a model y. The interiors last and you get a panoramic roof for free. Toyota and everyone else make you buy the highest trim level. Also charge speed is poor. Battery preconditioning hasn't been mentioned wonder why. The cheap plastic doesn't make the interior cool.
@@ConsoleCombatThere's one big divider separating Tesla from Toyota/Lexus right now. That's road trips. People who never drive long distances will be ok with the Toyota for many years.
People who take trips will discover the BZ4X or RZ 450 to be very limiting. Like, very very limiting. On the other hand, Tesla makes the best EVs for road tripping hands down.
On Bjørn Nyland's 1,000km challenge, Model 3 takes about 9-1/2 hours, Toyota takes 14-1/2 hours. That's a big difference.
@@ConsoleCombat the build of the car isn't bad. That is such an odd thing to say. The panel gaps so far are not good. The comfort is ok and since the suspension change in late 2022 the drive is more compliant. I've driven serveral and it's noticeable. Lexus interior has nice stitching and is comfortable. But hey, it's a gas car right? Me, I like the bmws idrive, audio and button placement and controls better. Everyone has their favorite.
Love the look of this vehicle. Range needs to go up OR price needs to come down for that range.
Both are fine
Great video! I love the interior on the RZ, I recently reviewed a Takumi spec model
If the bz4x is anything to go off; the model Y will be just fine.
Since its basically a bZ4x it really needs to go through a charging test before, God forbid, people start placing orders for them. Check out Bjorn Nyland's recent video on that car and all the trouble he had with charging.
There is NOTHING wrong with the charging system
Bjorn is a M O Roo nnNN
1. Poor range. 2. No tax credit (made in Japan). 3. Expensive. But other than that a great car! LOL
220 miles claimed range, probably around 190 in real-world use, then drop that quite a bit for daily use when charging to a recommended max of 80%. And top that off with the usual 40-50% drop in range if you live in a colder climate, and the range of this thing really isn’t much more than 100 miles in real-world wintertime use. That is pretty darn sad! If range is a consideration, this is not a good choice.
Only useful as a second car - road trips are a big no-no!
I think you're making alot of assumptions and arriving at a worst case scenario. However, let me offer a real-world example. I used to have a 150mile nissan leaf. left my house with 100% charge on a 15F day, drove 75 miles total with the heater blasting at 75mph before i got the battery power warning. THe leaf battery system has no pre-heating, no temp management, and is known for being terrible in the cold. So that was 5 years ago. I'm sure Toyota is going to be better than this. That said, yes, winter range will suffer as it doesn in all EV....but I doubt half.
@@IndefiniteGentlemen 100% charge will kill battery - for longevity set max charge to 80%. Doing the math on that will make it clear what a dog this is.
@@IndefiniteGentlemen No assumptions, I based my comment on my experience with my ‘22 RWD long-range Ioniq 5 SEL that does not have any battery pre-conditioning capability.
Theoretical range: 303 miles
Normal 80% range in warm weather: 210 miles
Normal 80% range in cold weather: 170 miles
These are significant reductions from the claimed range, but are not out of the ordinary at all, it’s just something you have to learn and learn how to deal with it. I do not dislike my car at all, I just wish for more honesty in what the car makers are claiming. Like Hyundai claiming 303 miles in range, but in the fine print telling me to only charge to 100% on extremely rare occasions and only charge to 80% for daily use. That is a significant hit. Lexus is doing the same thing here.
You do understand that this is Toyota/ Lexus we are talking about. A company that ensures that they test everything to near engineering perfection. Do not confuse this with another car brand that over promises and underperforms
Hello Tommy. Thanks for your review of the Lexus RZ450e. After we bought our first Toyota, a LC 150, we have only had Toyota and Lexus. Their service level, the reliability and the way they are holding the value are completely unique. We have just had normal service and maintanace and have never had other costs. And Toyota learned a lot from the development of Lexus which had fantastic comfort and hybrid drive trains from the RX400h from around 2005. I became completely disabled and bedridden from the corona vaccine, and isn't able to drive. I'm just able to be a passanger, but in my disabled I need a high comfort level without noice and vibratilns, My wife is driving an UX300e Luxury where I can take part in short trips. The longer trips for my wife is to visit family, which is only aprox 150 miles and we are always charging over night in visit by each other. Either the new UX300e or RZ450e where both now have the same range, would be a suitable car for her, and maybe once I will be able to travel with her to visit family. I understand the focus on range, but for much people like it is for my wife and me, it's much more importent with driving comfort. But because of both range and comfort I would never use other than 18" wheels on the RZ. Thanks for your reviews,
In the market for a new car and decided to go with an EV this time. Have a Lyriq preordered since May 2022 and depending on how much more it's delayed (hearing Q4 2023 or early 2025 delivery now), might just go with the RZ instead...assuming it isn't similarly delayed.
The range and lack of EV tax credit qualification hurts and definitely brings it to a trailing 2nd place compared to the Lyriq, but overall do dig basically everything else of the vehicle.
Cyclists @7:03 have their own lane and still have to be inconsiderate of their own safety and fellow drivers.
Looks so much better externally without those huge and awful cheap looking plastic wheel arch things on the Soltera and BZ4x
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Greetings from southern Ontario Canada this ev is already available at selected dealers and my sister in Vancouver has booked a road test to retire her toyota venza V6 thanks for sharing
So little range out of so much battery for so much money, Toyota/Lexus has just created the perfect recipe for corporate disaster
Tommy returned yay best Monday morning ever I’m crying happy tears
Tommy. Did you tell that you can drive the Lexus as a normal car with the regen on the brake pedal? In Norway you can get 11 Kw at home is you want.
Just put my order in for one
Does Toyota have a special team of engineers working on reducing the efficiency of this car, or are they just dumb?
No sun shade is ridiculously crazy, I don't buy that they needed the 12lb weight saving.
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Not bad looking, but it seems like it’s a more Prius-like in being underpowered with below average range. This is the reason Toyota had to push out their now former CEO.
Underpowered??? The Lexus Rz450e is capable of 0-60 in just 4.92 seconds or less
To say this car is underpowered is ridiculous. 5 seconds or under 0-60 is plenty of power. Anything quicker than that is overkill for this type of vehicle.
Not bad, but any EV with a sub-200 mile range includes Range Anxiety as standard.
Nothing wrong with the range
Don't do touch "buttons" on the steering wheel. It needs a glovebox and a rear wiper. It's not the ~100-mile-range of the Mazda EV, but range does matter.
This is an awesome EV, best in class
Toyota/Lexus is really struggling figuring out their EV cars... they are indeed 5 years behind. Koreans and Teslas seems to have already figured out.
yet Toyota put in radiant heating and a variable steer by wire system into this platform. This 5 years behind (whatever that's supposed to mean) platform. Yes, Hyundai/Kia have 800 volt and you can power things from them. Nice. Tesla has sentry mode and so forth. Nice. But Toyota did put in radiant heating and variable steer by wire and the others did not.
Range is too low for the asking price. 300 miles is the industry standard.
umm, no the range IS FINE
60k for something that charges that poor? This is how you get STOMPED by EGMP.
Will sell like hotcakes
So it failed as a toyota, but lexus elected to give it a go?
i mean they hardly have any vanilla derivative suv’s in their lineup right?
I prefer the Lexus approach to battery life with reduced range. Much safer regarding fire risk.
This is what Toyota should have at about40-45k.
Agreed.
Lol, the "hands in the air" thumbnail competition is real.
So many much better choices out there for less money. Toyota/Lexus demonstrating that they can’t make a competitive all electric vehicle. They demonstrate no real innovation and don’t even seem to be able to imitate/follow the leaders, bad combination. Not looking good for them.
short verison - it's a good first attempt, probably get the second version.
Ouch... that range won't do well with the US market unless someone is looking for strictly a city/urban runner.
range is perfect
Can’t believe how bad the range is.
Sad attempt by toyota. It is totally a half-hearted effort. Shows little they know about EV market. They should by hyundais ev platform..
Best EV out there!
No
@@spacey22 H No
Yet another luxury electric car. Why are the vast majority of electric cars manufactured and advertised as luxury cars? If electric is the way of the future, they are sure making it hard for regular folk to go electric…
So overpriced for what you get, but I'm sure there's plenty of people that will say, "But it's a Lexus!"
This would sell if it's $10K less than a Model Y. On every single metric it is a failure compared to even Hyundai electric vehicles. What you failed to mention is, what happens to this paltry range in cold weather. You'd be lucky if you can go from Long Island to Manhattan and back home without having to supercharge, but in this particular case it doesn't supercharge at all in the cold just like the Toyota BZ4X AWD. Who in their right minds would pay this amount of money for a vehicle that's their third or fourth? Also, it's disingenuous that all of these companies claim that there's greens are 14 inches or 15 in, the expectation being a 15-in laptop screen size but instead what you get is some elongated nonsense because obviously it's measured diagonally. It is far from even being efficient with a 71 kilowatt hour battery to only go 200 mi is ridiculous! Also, what I'm seeing more in the industry is when people say 10% to 80% charging in 30 minutes. That's basically 70% charge in 30 minutes that ONLY ADDS 140 miles of range❗ keep in mind that's I'm sure when it's decent weather nowhere close to freezing. This is basically like a souped-up golf cart at best. You've exhausted it by the time you've hit 18 holes.... There is NOTHING luxury about rang anxiety and you most definitely would have that in this vehicle.
What is the RZ450e? Well, it’s a drivable laptop computer.
I never understand why cars are so cheap in the States. This RZ is £76,000 in the UK and people on here complaining its over $65k :P
Lol Toyota wants to make sure potential buyers have range anxiety so they offer free use of an ICE loaner for when this sad thing won’t make it. Further proof they are being dragged kicking and screaming into the future.
The shadow on the car in the thumbnail is awful. Take a better photo.
Love everything about this car
Miles range …. Uhmm
Too bad you can only DCFC twice a day and 196 miles of range…disappointing EV. Probably 120-130 miles of winter range.
I can't wait to get this car. An electric RX. Perfect luxury commuter car for those who are driving to work or to the train or bus station in style.
There are cheaper options with more range for that scenario.
seems to work alright
Check out the Vid Bjørn Nyland did about the Toyota version…..I dunno but it’s got lots of bugs.
Bjorn is a mmOORR OO n n
He liked the car. He didn't like the range. And the Lexus version is more refined and more powerful. Beyond the range and charging, the Lexus is a very nice automobile. And for some, if they can charge at home and don't take the car road tripping, the range and charging are OK.
@@benjaminsmith2287 yeah the range in any cold environment is gonna be bad but if you pay for that car then you would expect to be able to use it not just from home to work….IMO.
Good grief, it's ugly. Well, I'm sure someone will open their wallet for it.
abysmal specs for the price. a lyriq is a much better choice
Its not cheap .
What a joke of a car 😂, I don’t know why you need to mention Tesla.
The design is Awesome. Lil bit too much tech thou. Great looking car!!
I love way better this RZ that all the Tesla junk. Well, if you had ever take seat in a Lexus, you understand that is way ahead Tesla in build quality and refinement. Tesla are making cheap car at prohibitive price, just take a look at their profit, its outrageous that people still buy them when they take 20-30% markup and continue cutting cost on quality and assembly. In the long run, this one will probably keep 95% charge over 10 years and 400-500k miles, not so sure about other EV out there, especially the Tesla that run on supercharger all year long. Keep in mind this one have a Panasonic battery, this thing will run forever !
Toyota is behind on electric car
$60k+ for a 3rd car.. No thanks I’ll keep my 23’ Lexus NX350H
I care more about the miles range
220mile range??? They should have save their money in development. What a waste of time and money.
Thanks but no thanks. Too many stupid gimmicks like the door handles and not enough range to be relevant in 2023 either. Toyota seriously needs to get their 💩 together with EVs because this is pathetic
Genesis is NOT competition lol it is rubbish
Lol is the infotainment windows XP? Listen this is not Lexus build better engines lol EV is a whole different ball game they suck
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Such a piece of garbage compared to its rivals.
220mi. range ?
150 kwh max DC charging ?
300 hp EV ?
over 65k ?
Nobody is gonna buy this one !
No good looking
Junk in arrival
Same price as a Model 3 lol I'd rather have a luxury car rather than a commuter for the same price
What a boring car
Immensely ugly vehicle
Great luxury car, mediocre EV.