If Traveler were in the middle of this blind it wouldve done worse. We'll fix this with a control whiskey in the future 😅 That being said Jack 10 is significantly better than traveler for the record. Thank you for putting up with us 😂
It has to do with how they rank them in tastings. If you win the first round you get a gold and advance. If you win the next round you get a double gold. It actually makes sense.
When you see people actually touting Bronzes they are not very good bottles. It's like a 50-60 score to get a bronze. Those are usually not good bottles but tastes differ from day to day. That's why gold & platinum are really touted because the bronze and silver bottles are just meh.
@@craigmunch2306 Traveler, Larceny Small Batch, Weller Special Reserve, and several other barely above bottom shelfer bottles are "double platinum"... I wanna know who is doing these tastings. I do a lot of blind tastings... I find it fun... probably 75% of my whiskey drinking is done by pouring myself 3-4 pours and going back and forth blind then revealing to myself after which was which and I've never had a bottle in those levels of quality even require a second sip to immediately identify as inferior to an actual top notch whiskey. The only time I really think I've seen it happen before/outside this and Minnick's top 100 was SLB's march madness where Maker's 101 beat a couple legit bottles... and honestly I think Kurt is just wacky for the Makers profile.
We agree with you and we do not agree with ourselves. If traveler was not the first whiskey in the blind it would've gotten a significantly worse score. We'll fix this portion in future episodes.
I think the whole idea behind the ASCOT's and no possibility of a bias is the key. I tasted through them by category all in random order. My reveal was pretty surprising when I found out. But all on all its a great way to see the value in what you taste. Cheers fellas
Ascots= Stuff money in my pocket and you’ll get an award. Traveler is so bad IMO it should have the cork pulled out and the bottle turned upside down:) I think the Discovery 11 is a backup worthy bottle! I’m still trying to get some of the Dragon’s Milk Origin series (any bottle) after your reviews on it! Your Mythology reviews were spot on, there great pours! Cheers!
Them new riff store picks are incredible. I live 1.5 hours from the distillery and The Party Source has them all the time because new riff is in their parking lot lol
Traveler has no flavor tastes like nothing is void of any observable sensory experiences sooo anything above 10 is unforgivable. And 10 just means that the liquid didnt blind or kill you.
My brother lives in Michigan so had him grab me an Origin Small Batch ($60) when he was heading down to SC. It's extremely minerally and hard to drink. Hoping it opens up, but my first pour has me thinking you guys are homers. Don't hate that haha
@@FriarPop Can't suck too bad if the Bourbon Junkies placed it 4th in this lineup. Plenty of other reviewers seem to like it for what it is. Don't know about too many other 120 proof Bourbons for less than $30. OGD 114 is probably the closest, and I'm more of a fan of the BT profile than Beam. But would love the chance to find out for myself since $25 isn't going to break the bank and possibly be a pretty mixer.
I grabbed a few dragon origins at Meier’s during season 1 house of the dragon. Was definitely a sleeper hit for the price, 95 proof I think and I really liked it. Normally I stick to Ky bourbon but dragons and all.
Liker and subscriber here would really like you two to do a side by side between eagle rare and horse soldier barrel strength. I have both and am having some troubles telling the nose apart. The palate to me is that Horse soldier is a slightly spicier eagle rare.
I'll one up Fred on being a fan of nutty whiskies, I don't even taste nuttiness on 90% of whiskies that people say are nutty. I guess I'm just built different. Either that or I'm used to the taste of nuts
I’ve had 2 bottles of batch 2 and a bottle of batch 3. Got very lucky. Anyways batch 3 was better for me, had a lot more flavor in it for me. I’m thinking Dan and Sean ranked traveler so high cause it was the first one and JD10 was ranked lower cause it was so far down the list.
I think Disco 11 was 141 plus tax at the distillery. Tempting but a pass at that price. Looking at this lineup... and then tracking down the full list... Wow. Look, I get that whiskey is not everyone's taste... But canned Margarita's and Deep Eddy Lemon vodka won Double Platinums. I don't even. Their rating system is CLEARLY broken when A124 and C923 are in the same tier... not just with eachother (which is nuts)... but with Traveler, ECTB, EHTaySmallBatch, Larceny SMALL BATCH, Weller SR, and a dozen other average to below avg whiskeys. Looks like this one of those "awards" funded by the manufacturers to pass around awards you can slap on everything as a marketing gimmick. Like those garbage bottles of wine with "93 pts in the Pioria Wine Championship!" emblems slapped on the label. I AM a fan of nutty whiskey, and the rankings are just silly... I can't find any objectively BAD whiskey on the list... but there's a heck of a lot of very unexceptional stuff ranked ZOMGWOWDOUBLEULTRAMEGAPLATINUM!!!!!! Of the Tubers I watch, Junkies may be the farthest OFF my palate (Frankly closest to my palate is a blogger, not tuber... Whiskey shelf blog... that guys flavor notes hit mine to the damn letter), but their ranking makes a ton more sense (especially if you accept their first pour justification for traveler) than the ascots. (This claim actually made me search for whiskey shelf on youtube to double check... he technically IS a youtuber as well, but he has like 6 videos from 2 years ago).
I haven't tried it, but folks that I've talked to compare it to regular old Crown Royal, which you can get for half the price and it comes with a cool purple bag. For $40-50, I'd rather snag an Eagle Rare.
ECBP (any release) beating Traveller, a whiskey picked by a guy who doesn't drink, which is a blend of unidentified canadian whiskey and some non age stated bourbon that has been universally panned... ouch, guys. Ouch.
No offense but another overpriced, overhyped celebrity whiskey i.e. Traveller, getting any kind of award, simply puts this awards event as a fraud...or possibly the judges paid off. If it were priced at $22 or even $24, okay. But in Michigan it's $40. And, no offense, it's thin and watery, IMHO
Any award celebration is corrupt as anything in this shady shoddy world. Get rekt bad brands. I'm in the beginning if your reviews. Good is good. The paid hype hurts bad brands more. Because i'll stay in my wheel house of what i know and like. When reviews like this smokes the hypes.
Traveller is nasty!🤮 I’m losing respect for the Ascot Awards with some of the bottles that actually scored good. Not only Traveller. I wouldn’t accept a free bottle of that stuff.
If Traveler were in the middle of this blind it wouldve done worse. We'll fix this with a control whiskey in the future 😅
That being said Jack 10 is significantly better than traveler for the record. Thank you for putting up with us 😂
Truth hurts sometimes 😂
Traveller winning anything makes everything suspect
It could win the Best Worst new release though 😂
It could win best of someone who doesn't drink
#FACTS
I love it 😂
agree 100% on the rating system. bronze, silver, gold. done.
It has to do with how they rank them in tastings. If you win the first round you get a gold and advance. If you win the next round you get a double gold. It actually makes sense.
When you see people actually touting Bronzes they are not very good bottles. It's like a 50-60 score to get a bronze. Those are usually not good bottles but tastes differ from day to day. That's why gold & platinum are really touted because the bronze and silver bottles are just meh.
@@craigmunch2306 Traveler, Larceny Small Batch, Weller Special Reserve, and several other barely above bottom shelfer bottles are "double platinum"... I wanna know who is doing these tastings. I do a lot of blind tastings... I find it fun... probably 75% of my whiskey drinking is done by pouring myself 3-4 pours and going back and forth blind then revealing to myself after which was which and I've never had a bottle in those levels of quality even require a second sip to immediately identify as inferior to an actual top notch whiskey.
The only time I really think I've seen it happen before/outside this and Minnick's top 100 was SLB's march madness where Maker's 101 beat a couple legit bottles... and honestly I think Kurt is just wacky for the Makers profile.
Travelers in front of JD10 is wild. 🤣🤣
We agree with you and we do not agree with ourselves. If traveler was not the first whiskey in the blind it would've gotten a significantly worse score. We'll fix this portion in future episodes.
@@BourbonJunkies Oh I know it was because it was in front. 🤣 If it had been even 4th it would have finished bottom 2. 🤣🤣
Would have been even more hilarious is it was the 12.
Just goes to show videos like this are pointless and inaccurate. 😂
Been using an Aeropress for coffee when camping for a few years now. Simplicity and portability is unmatched.
I can not put any kind of respect for any organization that gives Traveller an award like this. Ridiculous
Cannot sanction this buffoonery
I think the whole idea behind the ASCOT's and no possibility of a bias is the key. I tasted through them by category all in random order. My reveal was pretty surprising when I found out. But all on all its a great way to see the value in what you taste. Cheers fellas
Great episode. I also loved the rapid fire scoring.
That dragons milk is great stuff. Very unique
Love these blinds, keep it up!
It wasn't blind
The aggression today!!!!! Love it. Liked the video the moment he told me to…. 43 seconds in lol
Ascots= Stuff money in my pocket and you’ll get an award. Traveler is so bad IMO it should have the cork pulled out and the bottle turned upside down:) I think the Discovery 11 is a backup worthy bottle! I’m still trying to get some of the Dragon’s Milk Origin series (any bottle) after your reviews on it! Your Mythology reviews were spot on, there great pours! Cheers!
I'm amazed Traveler held up after that New Riff. I guess this blind is a good example of there being some hitters in the $30 range.
I'm still mystified how Dan beat Jason C. at Matt Madness. After that Traveller score, the belt needs to be forfeited.
I mean... I beat him back to back episodes 😊
What version of ECBP?
It's the A124 here... But both A124 and C923 were double plat if you go to the website and look at the list.
I liked the video because you said to! You hold so much power!
This might be the funniest thing I have seen in awhile , the SLB drinks , Brewzle & Bourbon junkies were SPOT ON.
Planning a trip to Michigan soon. Is it worth hunting and paying more for the Dragon Milk Bonded compared to Small Batch?
I "Liked" the video because I'm a huge fan of the Aeropress. But great video too, haha.
It's so damn good... Been using the ying everyday and I love it
Seeing Traveler in that category, just on the thumbnail, and I’m like 🫠
Traveler and bourbon cream is all my state gets 😭😂
I thought Sean was going to stab Dan during the hug 😆😆😆
another tip touch
@@johnh8268 that’s just called Tuesday in the castle😆😆😆
Love that you're sellin the Aeropress, now just sell that Fellow kettle!
That would be the dream!
I've had one new riff store pick, wish I bought two bottles. Also, Dan please make a coffee YT channel.
Them new riff store picks are incredible. I live 1.5 hours from the distillery and The Party Source has them all the time because new riff is in their parking lot lol
Having a real hard time trying to find any of the origin toasted or bonded in Michigan. Any suggestions?
00:42 “like this goddam video we are so fuckin tired”
16:02 “traveler beat JD10? fuck me, dislike and completely unsubscribe”
Going with the latter for real
7:16 our boy going off the rails.
Switch Travelers with Jack and it helps the ranks.
Honestly there are 2 things that could help this.
1. More sleep
2. More Cookie
GGs gentlemen
New Riff is pretty delicious.
"DO IT" - a highlight
Traveler has no flavor tastes like nothing is void of any observable sensory experiences sooo anything above 10 is unforgivable. And 10 just means that the liquid didnt blind or kill you.
My brother lives in Michigan so had him grab me an Origin Small Batch ($60) when he was heading down to SC. It's extremely minerally and hard to drink. Hoping it opens up, but my first pour has me thinking you guys are homers. Don't hate that haha
I've watched enough of them to know my pallet doesn't exactly align with theirs but still great reviewers and entertaining.
@@powertothesheeple5422 fully agree
Origin is my favorite great bottle
Traveller is all over Colorado, but they won't ship Benchmark Full Proof out here. Still not going to waste $40 on Stapleton's whiskey.
Benchmark full proof is priced at 25 because it sucks. You are not missing a thing.
@@FriarPop Can't suck too bad if the Bourbon Junkies placed it 4th in this lineup. Plenty of other reviewers seem to like it for what it is. Don't know about too many other 120 proof Bourbons for less than $30. OGD 114 is probably the closest, and I'm more of a fan of the BT profile than Beam. But would love the chance to find out for myself since $25 isn't going to break the bank and possibly be a pretty mixer.
They said to unsubscribe and delete the video because they screwed up. Check my review on it if you want more details 😆
I grabbed a few dragon origins at Meier’s during season 1 house of the dragon. Was definitely a sleeper hit for the price, 95 proof I think and I really liked it. Normally I stick to Ky bourbon but dragons and all.
Dan needs more comforting hugs, seems to settle him a little!🤣
Hug it out, boys!
Penelope Toasted is best, never seen that peach one…Old Forrester for the win
Yea, I like nutty whiskey too. Not sure why I ever watch your reviews. You are both very entertaining though!
Damn, I think this one needs a redo in a couple weeks.
I feel like I would have been in line with those rankings.
Agreed Sean!! GOLD actually being 3rd place!? F*** off.
🐈COOKIE🐈
Cookie is not a pest! He's part of the channel, Sean. Pet that kitty.
Dan’s comments last video on Sean’s “proofy” take on B524 sat with him and came out a bit in this video 🤣
Welcome back, we getting drunk 😂
No Bardstown in Missouri.
Yous guys are --- ing nuts 🥜
7:19 -- from now on, this is going to be my go-to answer to people questioning my tasting notes. :))))
bro hug!
Liker and subscriber here would really like you two to do a side by side between eagle rare and horse soldier barrel strength. I have both and am having some troubles telling the nose apart. The palate to me is that Horse soldier is a slightly spicier eagle rare.
Traveler being awarded anything makes me very suspicious. So much trust lost here. 😂
“Whelcome back” - Sean
Still waiting on the Garrison Balmorea/Guadalupe review or Garrison blind
Need way more videos with tired angry Sean. 😂
Substituting A124 for C923 was criminal
49 on a Elijah Craig, and called it funky wtf!!!
"We are on the spectrum......." I will be a patreon supporter just because of this joke.
FYI, SLB leaves the bottle superimposed on the screen until they move to the next tasting, it’s a great idea. Please do that.
Disco 11 is a giant.
Holy Crap. The Ascot Awards website needs help. It's very heavy. Loads sooo slow. 90% of page one content is below the frame.
I'll one up Fred on being a fan of nutty whiskies, I don't even taste nuttiness on 90% of whiskies that people say are nutty. I guess I'm just built different. Either that or I'm used to the taste of nuts
Traveler's isn't terrible. Bland, yes, terrible no.
Ann - Us
@dan shook and @sean. Been using one for 4-5 years. Wanted to get a new one. Thanks. Gonna use the 20% off ❤
Dang….so is JD Batch 2 better than Batch 3?
I’ve had 2 bottles of batch 2 and a bottle of batch 3. Got very lucky. Anyways batch 3 was better for me, had a lot more flavor in it for me. I’m thinking Dan and Sean ranked traveler so high cause it was the first one and JD10 was ranked lower cause it was so far down the list.
Batch 3 sucked
I think Disco 11 was 141 plus tax at the distillery. Tempting but a pass at that price. Looking at this lineup... and then tracking down the full list...
Wow.
Look, I get that whiskey is not everyone's taste...
But canned Margarita's and Deep Eddy Lemon vodka won Double Platinums.
I don't even.
Their rating system is CLEARLY broken when A124 and C923 are in the same tier... not just with eachother (which is nuts)... but with Traveler, ECTB, EHTaySmallBatch, Larceny SMALL BATCH, Weller SR, and a dozen other average to below avg whiskeys.
Looks like this one of those "awards" funded by the manufacturers to pass around awards you can slap on everything as a marketing gimmick. Like those garbage bottles of wine with "93 pts in the Pioria Wine Championship!" emblems slapped on the label.
I AM a fan of nutty whiskey, and the rankings are just silly... I can't find any objectively BAD whiskey on the list... but there's a heck of a lot of very unexceptional stuff ranked ZOMGWOWDOUBLEULTRAMEGAPLATINUM!!!!!!
Of the Tubers I watch, Junkies may be the farthest OFF my palate (Frankly closest to my palate is a blogger, not tuber... Whiskey shelf blog... that guys flavor notes hit mine to the damn letter), but their ranking makes a ton more sense (especially if you accept their first pour justification for traveler) than the ascots. (This claim actually made me search for whiskey shelf on youtube to double check... he technically IS a youtuber as well, but he has like 6 videos from 2 years ago).
On Saturday we blinded disco 11 vs mitchers 10 year and disco won
I like travelers. Don’t understand why snobs need to yuk people’s yum.
Way to go Barrel King!
Any system that uses double platinum as a rank immediately cares zero weight. Very much so gives paid awards vibe.
Why? Who cares what labels are used, it's still the same time-tested concept of first second and third.
Not a big Ascot and marzipan fan. Many other sources give more fair and unbiased reviews.
Bourbon bros love hating on Traveller. The fact is, if you remove price/value than the stuff drinks fine.
The problem is benchmark top floor is better and it's only $20
I haven't tried it, but folks that I've talked to compare it to regular old Crown Royal, which you can get for half the price and it comes with a cool purple bag. For $40-50, I'd rather snag an Eagle Rare.
@@BourbonJunkiesNot even. Got it for under 15 in Kroger in ky. Wish it was available here.
Wasn't going to like until Dan said "just click the fucking button"
Damnit, now I made it to where Dan said to dislike the video. I'm torn... send help
ECBP (any release) beating Traveller, a whiskey picked by a guy who doesn't drink, which is a blend of unidentified canadian whiskey and some non age stated bourbon that has been universally panned... ouch, guys. Ouch.
Travelers got a double platinum lmao, ascot lost all cred.
I was gonna buy an aeropress until I saw traveler win any award.......
No offense but another overpriced, overhyped celebrity whiskey i.e. Traveller, getting any kind of award, simply puts this awards event as a fraud...or possibly the judges paid off. If it were priced at $22 or even $24, okay. But in Michigan it's $40. And, no offense, it's thin and watery, IMHO
im a good friend who hit like
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Traveler better than JD 10…what! You guys lost big cred on that one😂!
Just click the fvckin button😂😂
I don't trust you guys anymore! 😅😅😅 Never trusted the awards!!! Lol
16:01 smashed that dislike button, demolished the unsubscribe button, and shattered-on-the-floor-while-juggling that notification bell 😎👍
"Dislike the video and completely unsubscribe" HAHAHAHA
Blind some Hellhouse
I clicked the fucking button man...jeez
Sean reminds me way too much of Rob Corddry
I had to change my thumbs up to a thumbs down after you ranked traveler anywhere but last.
Mmmmm….FM knows his stuff, but honestly I take his stuff with a grain of salt anymore.
Minnick also praised Old Tub....so his reviews are pretty much garbage.
Really? Traveler?
Double platinum are the 2 most meaningless words in whiskey right after small batch.
Trashy Traveler, I'm calling foul. No way whatsoever.
Gold, silver, bronze. What happened to common decency?
Any award celebration is corrupt as anything in this shady shoddy world. Get rekt bad brands. I'm in the beginning if your reviews. Good is good. The paid hype hurts bad brands more. Because i'll stay in my wheel house of what i know and like. When reviews like this smokes the hypes.
Jack 10. You gave it a 75. I hate you unsubscribing. Jk. But still
Just click the fuckin button. Done
Unsubscribed. Done. JK, you guys are much more entertaining than Fred. And absolutely, Origin just grows on you! Love being close over in west MI.
Traveller is nasty!🤮 I’m losing respect for the Ascot Awards with some of the bottles that actually scored good. Not only Traveller. I wouldn’t accept a free bottle of that stuff.
why would anyone listen to the Asscock Awards ? Consider the source. Need I say more ?
Hahahahaha
FIRST!