Cry me a river | NJPW Windy City Riot | Wrestling Observer Radio
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- Опубликовано: 12 апр 2024
- Dave Meltzer and Garrett Gonzales discuss the fallout from NJPW Windy City Riot, including a new IWGP World Champion in Jon Moxley, the latest with Jack Perry, and more.
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Dave's dog remains the star of the show.
Way better than his opinions.
@@c-mo313just like your profile
@@c-mo313you cry about aew and Dave somewhere else E drone
All dogs are the star of every show.
Agreed
0:50 that "yeah" though 😂
Zesty
0:53 incredible moment in Wrestling Observer Radio history
Dave's dog speaks more words per minute than Dave.
More coherently too.
Dave you said it was a bad idea
As a CM Punk mark I have to admit I love that he’s leaning into it
Historical accomplishment for Moxley.
Hey at least some fans in the crowd had some very creative signs
Yeah that Support LGb whatevr children sign was awesome.,,…….Not!!!!!
Say what you want about CM Punk, but in one week he's made Drew and Jack Perry way more interesting. Jack's entrance last night is the biggest reaction I've ever heard for him.
He was pretty over as a babyface especially with the Tarzan theme song
Only reason he got this reaction was because he's in cm punks hometown, jungle jackass is not a star and this is going to prove it go home heat is not good heat nobody wants to see jungle jackass.
I think aew can get though from here by using there actual stars not guys getting cheap heat because of guy in the other company FFS if in 6 weeks Perry is getting big reactions I'll give tony credit I just don't see itm having said that osprey, mjf,Alister black, Adam Cole, Keith lee, okada, and others use this roster we'll get some writers and are can flourish but they have to stop the bullshit using WWE to make there show they can't keep copying and talking about WWE because it's not gonna work do your own show forget the big show and grow your own.
@@judshuttie70go cry me a favor
Are you a Meltzer mark? Punk buried Tony and AEW in one week. Drew has been interesting this entire time.
Dave's dog has that Japanese strong style and workrate in abundance 5 ⭐
Mox is the IWGP Champion, this is crazy.
Did this dude really just say AEW needs MORE WOMEN WRESTLERS??? 😂
They have lots of good women but don't use them effectively. WWE doing better with their women right now.
I laughed when I heard that as well. He is a Dave disciple.
@@ScotisticDad Who? Mrs Pose and Flex Jade Cargill?
@ChrisWolff2013
Rhea Ripley, Bayley, Tifanny Stratton, There's lots of good women across the NXT roster. There's typically 2-3 women's segments (matches + other stuff) at least per episode.
Mania weekend had 20 matches (including Stand and Deliver). 5 were women's matches.
The 6 man streey fight had women bumping.
Legado vs LWO had the women involved.
@@ScotisticDad Women bumping? Like AEW has done multiple times?
Dave new Japan crowds in America are insider crowds that's why they are generally small. Of course they all new about the jack perry incident
he knows that.
THIS!
6,000 people is small? Maybe compared to WrestleMania, but you act like it's PWG which was literally 400 drunk marks in a bingo hall.
@@duckmercy11In Chicago yes it’s a strong wrestling market so it’s not impossible to get 6k marks in the arena funny there ticket sales are better then AEW
@@duckmercy11pwg drew 400 people? I wouldve thought they drew 200 max
The Shield members continue to have success in professional wrestling. Roman Reigns had a historic run as the Undisputed WWE Universal Heavyweight Championship, Seth "Freaking" Rollins was the Inaugural World Heavyweight Champion and carried that Championship for almost a year.... And now Jon Moxley (formerly Dean Ambrose) is the first wrestler to hold the WWE World Champion, AEW World Heavyweight Championship and now the New IWJP World Heavyweight Champion... Legend's
Yea two had it in WWE and one in a glorified Indy. Also shows how NJPW doesn't actually care about wrestling only if they are willing to put a belt on Mox
Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns just main evented a record breaking Wrestlemania with The Rock (love him or hate him, the biggest star in the world).
It's not even close to being the same thing 😂
Fucking mark.
Yeah that IWJP championship is sooooo prestigious.
The International Wrestling Japanese Prix
Hahaha
@WilliamRFC91 Typical WWE-Drone SHILL‼️ Wrestlers aren't allowed to make a living unless it is WWE correct?!
@@vb2806 U can smell a Jim Cornette fanboy by the smell of not wearing deodorant and cologne... 🤡
If only you were this passionate about losing weight... 🐖 🐷
Strange, naito is as hot as he has ever been in nipw. Weird time for him to drop the belt now. Well at least he got his wrestle kingdom moment.
"Okay. Naito you got your moment. Now, give the belt back."
Moxley is probably dropping the title at the next AEW x NJPW show, that's why he lost
Wear & tear issues? Age?
Naito was absolutely on fire years ago. I would say that was more of his peak. NJPW just screwed up not putting the title on him then.
@@suprcrzyI think they mean kayfabe peak. The Japanese fans are very happy with hos performances in the ring and he is their #1 star right now.
Tarzan, a big 2002 Timberlake guy
If Shota wins it's not going to be their next match.
CM Punk getting guys over in both companies 😂
Getting over😂
So Tony gets all their top stars, pays most of the bill on the joint show and now gave them their new top champ. Njpw may as well sell upto him at this point you know he'd pay more than its worth too.
Got to watch this show
its really good
LAST 3MIN that take by Dave was spot on
Roman and Seth lose their belts.
Moxley: “Don’t worry guys, I got this.”
I wish we would've gotten the holy Trinity of them all holding World Titles at the same time.
Don’t worry guys I’m winning a belt infront of a far smaller crowed after Roman held the title in the biggest matches and the biggest company for record days and Seth is involved in one of the greatest angles in the greatest company. I’m sure Seth and Roman will sleep fine
Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns just main evented a record breaking Wrestlemania with The Rock (love him or hate him, the biggest star in the world).
It's not even close to being the same thing 😂
Fucking mark.
I went, I was dressed as Jushin Thunder Liger. I freaking LOVED the heat Jack Perry was giving the crowd!!! 😂
Without the incident at Wimbley with Punk, there would be no Scapegoat t-shirts to sell. Jack Perry wouldn't be getting all this buzz and attention. He would still be wasting away on the AEW roster. (That's nothing to do with being a Punk fan, or hating Jack Perry, it's just facts.) How much merch was Perry selling before? How many people paid to see him? Exactly.
Lol ya he looks like a household name with all of those empty seats
Also CM Punk made it to Wrestlemania, Raw, Dynamite, NJPW and a UFC event all in the same week and didn’t have a single match.. He the 🐐end of discussion
Gonna be wild not seeing the main title in New Japan for the next two months
CM Punk living rent free in people’s heads and Jungle Boy needing to use Punk for relevancy is funny
The million dollar question is whether Jack is going to have anything after milking the All Incident to death. That's only going to get him so far without any other development.
The guy’s entire gimmick is getting heat off a guy who snatched him up like he was nothing, and is now in another - bigger - company laughing at him.
Great booking.
A GUY WHO SUCKER PUNCHED A SMALLER MAN. DONT FORGET PUNK IS NOT A REAL TOUGH GUY. HE IS A REAL LIFE WIMP
Cry me a river 😢
Okay and what was he before all this? They had just turned him heel in AEW and it wasn’t really getting over, they don’t have much to lose by leaning in to the Punk thing with Perry.
They do , hes not gooding to do a program with punk so why do all this stuff ?@@influentialdetour
All jack perry had to do to get over was getting chocked by cm punk
Had to get literally pushed by Punk to get a push.
@@andrewbianchi6999 And choked (according to Punk) for 4 seconds. LOL. But even in Chicago h was getting a 50/50 crowd reaction. He might end up being a FACE in some cities.
Cry me a river jacket next is the Timberlake "cry me a river" as the theme song lol.
Dave's dog kicks ass
Licks too
Always have the dog! He’s the bright spot in these videos
Imagine thinking the top guy was better chasing than holding when the other top guy left 😂😂😂
You report that Backstage AEW just wants to move on from all of this. Tony's big idea is to now book a guy who this is going to be his whole gimmick. Let me guess now its a great thing they are going to send Jungle Boy out every week crowing about how he got CM Punk fired.
When are Dave and Alvarez posting full retractions and apologies for lying to their audience and the public?
Punk never lunged at Khan
"cry me a river" the r&b song should be Jack Perry's new theme
Michael Buble
I'm pretty sure we're getting Moxley vs. Tanahashi 2 for the IWGP World Title at Forbidden Door 3, where the Ace and company president will get his win back and bring home the gold.
it will be shooter vs moxley 2, with the "new ace" bringing home the gold
@@jonjones9917 I think they're going to save Umino's first IWGP World Title win for Wrestle Kingdom or possibly Dominion.
I love Tanahashi but dude is washed.
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ but 1/4 full 😂 Punk humiliated that kid. He's lucky Joe stopped Punk from keeping that choke on 🤣
Could u imagine the fight if it where backstage at the Tokyo dome? Dave's head would have exploded
Jon Moxley is now the first wrestler ever to hold the WWE, AEW, and NJPW top titles at some point in his career.
Gee, wrestler accomplishments REALLY trigger some people.
That is one HUGE fall from grace.
@@c-mo313 lol
Bleed 1000 times, not a dime drawn
@@whydoineedahandle406 Seems like mox owe you bucks
@@whydoineedahandle406Dude’s AEW contract alone (not counting his NJPW and other appearances) is larger than ANY current WWE talent. It’s north of $6 million per year. Dude works hard for it no matter what fanboy thoughts you have about AEW. Show some respect.
12:27 wisdom
Can we all agree they need to get the title off Nemeth and send him on his way?
I think he's their way of keeping some kind of good related with TNA, or whatever left of TNA
Legendary
Perry did so well tonight; great match.
So the rest of jack perrys career will be built on getting his ass beat by punk and referencing it every week to stay relevant, got it😂
Wait let me get the story straight did punk beat his ass or did he only "choke him a little" like punk said, because if he did beat his ass does that means punk lied? 🤔
He could care less about his career. Remember he is a trust fund kid. He's living his best life..
@@dejota1136People keep telling me that Punk is a violent psychopath who assaulted him. So he clearly must have beaten him up real bad.
@@BigmanDogs to hit someone without consent is assault. Just because CM punk is bad at beating up people for real doesn't mean he didn't try to assault a coworker.
@@dejota1136 Did Eddie Kingston assault a co-worker? What should happen to him? These things happen in sports locker-rooms all the time, I have broken up way worse fights multiple times
819K is now consider Good?😮 Holy
Dave slipped and almost called Riddle Jeff Hardy. How fitting.
Talented guys who couldn’t get out of their own way and kneecapped their own careers.
Jack Perry is never going to be a superstar.. nice try Dave. 😂
This is the same guy who said Alan Angels would be a star after one match with Omega, and Action Andretti with Jericho. Stars need momentum to develop.
@@dngn4774 Dave is delusional
@@dngn4774but the crowd reaction for Perry (that too Chicago crowd) was good. It exceeded my expectations.
Maybe not superstar but if they play this right he can a star at AEW but it’s not a long lasting thing.
CM Punk in a single week gave The Bucks, FTR, Jack Perry, Drew Mcyntire, Damian Priest and Jey Uso all a storyline. In a week! And they say Punk isn’t a star or needed in wrestling.
I give this video 2.75!!!
8 stars in the Tokyo dome😅
at best.
@@ooapaa7950 8 1/4 brother
Windy City was electric for Jack. Footage was worth.
the footage did nothing but embarrass the company. appealing to a niche anti-punk audience is not going to help them.
@@johngeraltyour favorite wrestler is an atheist Biden lover . Dork
If Dave’s dog isn’t called Bandit it’ll be criminal
Meltzer really does resemble a head of broccoli 🥦 bless his heart 😅
Man I really dislike Dave and Jungle Boy
I saw what Tony meant by being fear of life he should come out properly clearing everything no body have the right to shove of try to heart your boss he will fire you .Good job Tony and people who don't see it are blind because they could not see what happened after he choked jack he was seen shoving someone it was Tony geniuses
0:54
GOOFS!
So basically he can't get over without Punk.
Punk said he came back to wrestling to get the younger stars over and he finally did by leaving
@@sourcheddarisbackwhat nonsense you talking? How are the young stars getting over? No one is watching aew. All eyes on wwe these days lol.
@@sourcheddarisback 😂😂😂
@@sourcheddarisbackwhat?
@@san12XSure, kid.
There's literally full chunk pieces of banana in my stool this morning..what a friday
Never forget, Meltzer is a goof 😂
All 5 star matches 😂
Ohhhhh cry me a river
CM Punk lives rent free
NJPW needs to get out of this deal with AEW. Has NJPW benefited at all from it?
I just really hope Jack can maintain. He's a great wrestler but his promo ability is still pretty weak. I want him to come back and nail it out of the park, be cheering him on.
Jack Perry a star 😂😂
The dog needs to be full time.
These people and their love for Japanese wrestling is hilarious
5 star goofs
This goof is a mid carder and he'll never be anything else
go cry me a river.
Yea man you tell him big dawg
YOU ARE A GOOF AND WOULD BE LUCKY TO BE MID IN LIFE
Well he's a star in your head. That's something. You watched and commented it. Well done.
@@nerminmujacic2200 I watched to laugh at Meltzer actually, he is funny
Nothing more than Luke Perry's Little Jungle Boy. Jobber. His might be as good as jobber as Eddie Kingston one day.
Outside of WWE, the plumber isn’t a star and there aren’t numbers to suggest he is
like it or not cm punk still drawing aew ratings, next week old punk videos to appear maybe? npw is irrelevant to mainsteam TV please understand for the love of god tell Tony.
Scape fking goatttt
I thought he wore that jacket cause he was listening to Justin Timberlake trying to get over Anna Jays dumping him.
When that happen?
@@brookeburner4243in his head😂
I agree with Dave! It could be about 20 years before jungle boy is a star
CM Punk: gets most heat in AEW and NJPW.
AEW MARKS: Omg Jack Perry is so over and Tony is a booking genius!
Dave - "There are people who are better as chasing challengers than as champions"
He just described Cody Rhodes, and it's already apparent to me in just 6 days after his title win.
Theres a difference between the internet and real life. Jack Perry is over as shit now
He was getting crazy heat. When he was making his entrance I thought a fan might take a swing at him honestly
honestly good for him I hope he can keep the momentum and people always complain about lack of story so here you go
Almost reminds me of Owen Hart's Sole Survivor phase.
Dave, dude, if you are attending an NJPW show in Chicago, you are as insider as insider goes. The reaction will not be the same on aew tv
But I thought all of AEWs fans were niche marks?
An actual fun wrestling show
I wonder if anyone’s made a goofy voiceover when Dave talks cause that’s all I see when Dave talks, goofy lol
Jon Moxley is NJPW champion?
Dang, and I thought the belt design change was the worst thing to ever happen to the belt. Guess I was wrong.
Njpw don't have stars anymore. Moxley is still well known among wrestling fans
I hate that design. Horrible. Bring back the IWGP Heavyweight Championship V4.
Hopefully Moxley changes it
@@paulc1553 Facts.
If it creates jack perry superstar?😂😂😂😂
The guy is a mid card wrestler at best
You guys are talking about his stardom😂😂
Meltzer you are delusional
You can't judge the reaction to Perry based off of this crowd. It was in Chicago and was full of hardcore insider wrestling fans
exactly. jack perry doesn't have the talent to become a huge star.
Hardcore fans are the only people that watch wrestling these days
Jack Perry has a future in wrestling, that Chicago crowd loved him . 5 years from now a lot of people like cornette and punk are gonna look like idiots shitting all over Perry. Well I mean cornette will probably be dead in 5 years and punk will be retired and probably not even in the business anymore in any shape form or fashion , but ya know ….
@terryalan4590 so Jim is dead and Punk retired? How does that elevate Perry? He clearly needs other people to make him relevant
@@shannonnorman1101 I said 5 years from now people who shit on Perry are gonna look real dumb . Keep up
@@terryalan4590 look dumb? People who think this goof is good are who'll look like idiots lmao
Oh yeah it's Perry mania out there ...the "man" is the future of the business
@@terryalan4590 look dumb how? His bitch ass is not gonna be anywhere in 5 years except in the same spot it was before the this. I know reading is difficult but keep up...
Jack Perry is 26 more buzz than Punk at this age. He is the future!
Are you trying to be funny because the entire reason jackoff perry has buzz is because of punk and punk alone
You’re high
LMAO did dave actually said AEW needs more women wrestlers no they don't their division absolutely sucks nobody pays money to watch subpar women's wrestling plus whenever there's a women's match or segment people change the channel that's why aew loses viewers when the women show up aew needs better creative for the women that's why AEW shouldn't have had a women's division not when they were a startup company in 2019 dave's dog is the star of the show.
Why the fuck do you have your top draw lose? Doubtful their next big Japan show will draw 3000.
Wouldn't be surprised TK pulled rank. NJPW needs the money.
@@duckmercy11 NJPW could make bank just by pushing Naito alone, that doesn't make sense.
@@22srs22 naito has several nagging injuries..
@@andrewclayterman6230 Taking the belt off him is not gonna stop him.
"Pretty good match"
So let's calc
NJPW+AEW= Base 5 Stars
Not in Tokyo: -1
Mox Bled:+.5 star
4.5 easily
🐐 Scapegoat, Cry Me a River!
Skewer head bladed again 😂
Bizarro World Blain "Nothing but time to Bleed."
Cornette mark
Mox the plumber
@@kevinryan7669 JM Hopper
@@kryceksangel look at AEWs empty arenas, I think it's obvious who was on the right side of history here.
You would never see. The WWE Championship in another promotion. Now Moxley going to be waving. That title all over Dynamite.
Go watch wwe than and shut the f up. This was an amazing show.
Uh, that's the point. It's called exposure.
It's hilarious to see these two idiots talking about Jack Perry's stardom where his gimmick is to mention a real star in another promotion
So he has to use someone else to even remotely get himself "over" that will never pay off and which just proves how much more of a star the other person is while also being embarrassed by him in a physical confrontation and by "over" its just from the smark crowd who is the smarkiest of smark since they are seeing a new japan show in the US? And in chicago where they would the most on top of this. Lord the AEW marks are the most embarrassing geeks ever.
pathetic. grow up.
look at you mad
You were expecting cm punk chants 😂😂😂
4:20 “more toys!!!”
Yes because an even more bloated roster is the solution.
Of course. NJPW has to take a backseat to AEW. Gabe Kidd was right. What a joke decision.
Hollywood Jack Perry : use it.
Lol Dave acting like a normal crowd not a crowd full of the biggest Dave marks is going to give a shit about Jack Perry.
Daves a Lotta out of touch 😢
Got to be top show barely making 750,000 Collision 450,000 at most and Friday night trash at 200,000 them all combined not making what Raw does. They will be out of business in the next year. As soon as his daddy says its not working and we are not giving you anymore money to waste on your toy it will be over.
@@jonmitchell9019 I was really hoping they wouldn't be another TNA, but it's slowly looking to that route.
@@No1ANTAGON1ST I think Dixie Carter had a better idea how to run a wrestling company than Tony does.
Too inside???? .... it's freaking njpw in America you don't get more inside then that.