The Holy Grail of Final Fantasy VII Speedrunning Was Found
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
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This was fascinating to watch even as someone who won’t ever try a speedrun. I’m sure there’s more crazy things to come, amazing work by the community!
The legend that is Dansg08
Berk! 😀
I've never seen anyone mention the materia skip from the original
Everytime you play a game and try to rush your doing a Speedrun my friend
I thought I would never Speedrun and I accidentally bought prinny collection because of the Lego penguin it and now I'm kinda fascinated by it.
Petition to call all speedruns using this glitch Panic%.
Because there's no Kalm.
That's a 🎤 drop
Love it
Panik%
👏 👏 👏
Panik% *
This is fucking incredible however somehow I'm always more impressed and fascinated by glitchless speedruns.
Well glitchless usually are much more of an endurance test, requiring great execution for much longer periods of time. However, glitchless runs are *usually* more consistent, relying less on RNG for certain glitches to work. So, sometimes the any% categories are much more grindy than glitchless, making them more impressive to me.
It kinda all depends on the game and how the glitches work to me. Usually my favorite runs are glitch heavy 100% runs, those routes can be insane
It's possible to run across the swamp without a chocobo
Barret: "Hey Cloud, If we go any further, we'll skip Kalm"
Cloud: "Hell yeah we will"
LMAO this should be pinned.
Cloud: " It's ok Barret, keep KALM it will still be there later"
Barret: (face palms with gun-arm)
I think the devs planned it all along
Dont worry barret we got this
@@lornelthaltmer 100 Health loss
Skip Kalm and Carry On
Barret taking the PHS away is such a weird coincidence.
Cloud does the subsequent section of Junon alone so i feel it was intended to make sure you couldnt call teammates into your party for that part. Might have been glitches when they left it in for that section.
It's clear that Square put a lot of effort into making sure the game's state is consistent, so if a player does something weird during normal gameplay they're less likely to break their ability to progress. Incidentally, this makes skips like this viable because the code is always trying to steer the game state back onto the correct path.
Square have been waiting soooo long for someone to find this, that’s why 😂
@@Joseph-nx5gv Not really. They could have just not allowed it there like they dont allow certain things anywhere.
But it's literally the only thing that makes this viable. The menu options don't get edited after that until after North Crater.
You're all here talking about a flashback skip while I'm just having my mind blown by Cloud asking a Chocobo to "stay there just a minute"
People talk to animals.
@@nintendiaccount5002 The point was more so that the line in question exists, not the fact that he talked to a chocobo.
@@nspade9252 People are too obsessed with little details in a video game.
@@nintendiaccount5002 Yeah wow a hyperbolic statement about how cool it is to see a detail I never knew about is soooo obsessive. Chill out, dude.
@@nspade9252 It is obsessive. FFVII is a bad game, everyone outside this community knows it. It's just SLOW turn based boringggg.! Yawns.
That PHS Logic! Reminds me of OOT speedrunning. Ganon knocks your sword away in the final fight, therefor giving you access to it right at the end where it's necessary! Thanks programmers!
Ganon in botw?
@@calmcalm6203 oot, not botw
Perhaps the craziest part of this is that we'll probably wake up in a couple months to ANOTHER skip and/or exploit. Truly, FFVII is the gem that continues to shine no matter how much it fractures.
Imagine skipping kalm last week to wake up right now to this video 🐕🦺
I had no idea when I was 14 back in 1997 there was going to be a thing called RUclips that I would be watching videos about the game I was playing at the current time… It took me some long to beat FF7 the first time the time counter stopped counting at 99:99
The only one I would say is crazier is LOZ OOT. That game has been broken down to a microscopic level and are still finding shit.
oh wow no shit almost as if you're talking about a PS1 game let alone a video game
@@ThickCutOhio I was 16 and know exactly what you mean. I knew this game was popular at the time but never knew it would make an impression that would last this long. After seeing screenshots of FF8 in a magezine I always thought it would be surpassed by a succession of superior FF games. How wrong I was.
Barret: "So Cloud, what's the deal with Sephiroth?"
Cloud: "..." *starts digging tunnel to Junon*
Barret: "Okay fuck you too."
FF 7 is the GOAT. I’ll never do a speed run on this game, love the content way too much, but I’ll keep this in my back pocket. Having my memory cards from 1997 with a save file AFTER Kalm is how I get around this long cut scene. Then again, sometimes I want to let the story be told, because I appreciate the game so much. Kudos all!
I like that. On my PS3 I maintain multiple saves at different points in the game because there are particularly amazing parts of the game ☺️
I wondered how the run played out with the PHS and forgot Barrett takes it away. Thanks for the video - great content as always death. Cna't believe another skip has been found
Heck ya I ate that gnat XD
I have no interest in doing speedruns myself, but it's always fascinating to see these crazy glitches y'all find
The fact that it just so happens to not permabreak the PHS is even crazier!
Bro tell me why, my childhood burst down my door and slaps me in the face, every single time I see this game, and the fact people still play and optimize to this day. Thank you all for what you do!
Nineteen minutes off, spend about eight performing the skips. Ten to eleven MINUTES saved is still utterly massive, people grind for months to save seconds in this game.
Kuma just needs to find a gysha green somewhere before leaving the start and he will skip the ranch
Yeah autism is a scary as hell thing
@@hyakugame how's your life going? Please don't joke about autism
I named my dog Syndrome. Anytime he behaves badly I simply yell, "Down Syndrome!!!"
@@joelargumedo1596 wow lol
Let’s be honest, anyone replaying FF7 hates kalm. It’s not just speedrunners
The only thing that surprises me about FF7 more, than the sheer quantity and diversity of all the exploits...
Is how the game is still able to somehow hold together with all the ways people break it.
@Valkyrie ALTER newer games aren’t but for older games a glitch can lead to the entire code just garbling itself into nothing. Just look at old Pokémon speed runs to see how one small glitch destroys the game
Nokia Fantasy 7
It is actually somewhat recurrent in these early 3d games simply because programmer themselves weren’t familiar with them I’d guess.
@Valkyrie ALTER I know we had already 4k graphics when you were born, but yes, old games are still considered games
@Valkyrie ALTER you must be like 10 or some shit if you think those aren’t games🤣 just because you haven’t played something don’t mean it’s not a game
5:43 "The amount of brainpower and pure will Kuma had to find this skip *can not be UNDERstated*."
Yes, it can. How come so many people keep getting this wrong and end up stating the exact *opposite* of what they were trying to say?
Thanks for pointing this out, didn't realize I was saying it wrong, but now it is blatantly obvious lol.
@@4-8Productions Props to you sir. It takes a big man to learn from his mistakes!
@@4-8Productions and
@@4-8Productions its an easy mistake to make!
You must be fun at parties
The visual of 12:08
Audio: “because this glitch involves catching a Chocobo…”
Visual: Seph reaches out to Jenova
He is a chocobo in another reality
Casually, Kalm's always worth going through just for the epic moment when the Chorus chimes in. Goosebumps every time.
Speedrunners have probably seen it thousands of times... I’ve beaten the game maybe 10 times so, for me, it’s worth it every time, but after a few hundred times I’d probably be done with it.
@@HomeDefender30 not enjoying that moment would be a dang shame.
James Carter I agree wholeheartedly... that’s why I am not a speed runner... it just seems like a miserable way to experience a game... but I understand why they would want to skip that section for the purposes of the run.
@@HomeDefender30 You're assuming that speedrunners didn't enjoy the game the first several times they played through, which is almost always not the case. We keep playing the game precisely BECAUSE we love playing it over and over, both exciting and boring parts. But obviously, in the effort to lower the time, we still want to skip all that we can.
@@HomeDefender30 i mean the ff7 gdq speedrunner said the music makes it worth it and more enjoyable
I don't speedrun or even follow speedrunning. But i really hate this part of the game, I am so glad there is a way to skip it. Wether i will do it or not i don't know but still, thank you :p
What makes FFVII so great? The game is SOOOO broken and patched together, it just works.
The fact you can play the game casually and never know how Jerry-rigged the game was thrown together is amazing.
@@Berahlen I mean if you count limits as auto attacks, you for sure can. I've done no materia/no combat item runs. Mash it out!
@@GreenScreenBartender Halo 2 (and 1 as well, i think? But definitely 2) :V
@@GreenScreenBartender Also Team Fortress 2, as well...
I like the mention of segmented runs at the start- a nice throw-back to where it started. Shout out to some of the original runners, Farringa and GarlandG.
This is absolutely mind-blowing, yet incredibly simple too. What a find.
I have to wear extra underwear for my accidental poopies.
Yea I literally could care less about speed runs, but I like how people find glitches and exploits and change the game in these ways.
The expression is "couldn't care less" to say you could care less suggests that you care a non-zero amount and thus could reduce the amount you care, approaching zero. In order to care less you must care some first.
@@alexs7670 I literally could care less about grammar on a RUclips comment either. You need to get out more.
@@eh4372 and here I was thinking you were just ignorant. I didn't realize you wanted to be wrong. By all means, continue.
@@alexs7670 regardless you have issues clearly having to correct RUclips comments grammar. There’s more to life. Get over yourself.
@@eh4372 I'm sorry, I often forget that children and people for whom English is a second language use RUclips. That said, you should get over yourself and accept the criticism. Why are you so willing to just use an expression in a way that makes you look foolish, and then to try to deflect, as though I'm wrong for trying to help you? Why donyou want to be wrong?
This game just refuses to be saturated, and it's amazing! I will forever love this game and more than 2 decades since its release and we're still discovering new stuff
Soon we will have game skip!
Is that where we just play FFVIII and then get sad
Great Video with a great amount of detailed facts and I am honoured to be part of it. Kuma spent a long time finding it and so many runners, routers and glitch finders did their best to contribute to it. It was overall a very supportive and wholesome process and I am really happy it worked out so well in the end
I help the speed runners with all the BORING parts in any game.
Here is my helping tip:
STOP SPEED RUNNING GAMES AND PLAY THEM LIKE EVERY OTHER NORMAL PERSON... ohh and GET A LIFE.
Yep, its a bot (either that, or you really need to eat shit @tanelviil9149 )
I thought the holy grail was Midgar Skip. This is still an epic find!
@@joeyondakeys *Midgar
There is a Midgar Skip though. 2nd time rnd. You go from the highwind to Hojo fight to disc 3
@@212mochaman They're saying they thought Midgar Skip was the holy grail, not this one.
Almost three decades of memories and the community continually shows us she keeps on giving. ❤️
cringe
This is the first video I've ever watched relating to speed running, and thought it was really well done. Great contextualisation of the problem, felt like I got an appreciation for who the community was too. Very interesting and enjoyable, thank you!
Waiting for that inevitable: "Hey all you legends." From Karl Jobst
can't wait for him to insist no more exploit will ever be found, just to make his next video on-topic bait more
@@hyakugame idk, he does a decent job out of most of the speedrun exploits explained series'
*_Hello, you absolute legends_*
@@IanNewYashaTheFinalAct oh yea, lol.
Stuff like this is why I love Final Fantasy VII more now than ever.
This is really unbelievable, finding BIG skips 25 years later man!!! incredible. amazing vid Death, keep up the awesome work man...
It actually is absolutely believable. I don't know why you are essentializing the very concept of bug-finding.
On the rerelease on the PS4 (not the remake) you literally have a fast forward button that will make any section of dialogue take a few seconds, a "limit breaks are always usable" button, and an invincibility button. The skips and glitches are cool and I know this is kind of besides the point, but for regular people who aren't speed running and just cba with a particular part, the rerelease has been out for years, is about 7 quid and addressed all these issues. It's also one of the easiest, most enjoyable platinum trophies I ever got. Being that I did all this stuff legit on the original PS multiple times I didn't feel bad fast forwarding and cheating battles from time to time, especially when it came to farming Magic Pots for AP.
Watching these exploits of beloved childhood games just shows it in an entirely different light, and I LOVE it! Thank you for this.
Love that the Kalm Skip meme is now a reality
This isnt even a holy grail for speedrunning. This is a holy grail for FF7 players everywhere. NO MORE KALM FLASHBACKS! WOOO!
Great video. Was hoping someone would cover this
I've watched / listened to this video four times today. It's a cool fuzzy happy thing for me today. ♥
sperg
The Madlads actually did it.
Incredible !
Salut toi lol 😂
Toi ici ?!
@@republicofnoobs7437 je le retrouve partout hahahaha
@@Dodo1368 immite Marine le,pen « il est partout dans no villes, dans nos campagnes « ... xD
Bordel, je le vois sur les vidéos de PSO, sur les vidéos de FF il est partout en effet
Its amazing to see a community have a breakthrough in a game they thought they found everything in already. Congrats ff7 community!
*SIGH* almost as if it's teaching you not to assume everything was found each time a glitch is found... right?
Now if we could stop unfairly labeling groups of people as a community just because they have similar interests...
So glad you're still around and it looks like the channel is growing. I remember in the beginning hoping you would do well because this is hands down my favorite FF7 channel. There are plenty of fans out there but its always palpable just how much this game means to you. The game means a lot to me so its great to have a place online where I know I can go that will always have the latest and greatest when it comes to whats happening with this game. So a sub here means Im never out of the loop!
The Kalm section is vital to the story of the game and is very interesting the first time you play but even putting aside speed runs it is so tedious to replay so im very happy for others that this has been found.
This'll be good for Normal playthroughs too I guess. Since you don't even need to get the weapons or whatever in Kalm.
There's some deliciously appropriate parallel to skipping the lore of this game by getting distracted by Chocobos. Truly, this is FF7.
I first got into the speedrunning community through this game, so it still stuns me how much the game has been shaved over the years. Ever since I'd seen GarlandG's videos on some of the weirdest world map glitches found years ago, I wondered how any of them could be useful for speedrunning. Seems like Chocobos can override so many events because there's always gotta be some unique conditions in the code for them.
Maybe one day we'll have the PC run finish in less than an hour. "FF7 for Busy People" is real, 2024.
Always check in on this channel love the content.... love FFVII more 😜👍👍👍🔥
Ironically the people who complete a game in the fastest time probably play the games for the longest period of time
This was fun to watch you mess with on Friday morning and Saturday evening. Hopefully more skips can come from this new glitch, I’m sure someone is looking right
Been waiting for you to release this since I heard about it on the ff8 stream. So much hype! Love it Death
It really looks more and more like programmers and testers purposely implemented these checks and requirements so that they could test functionalities in a timely manner, that would otherwise be near impossible even with a debug room. I think it's a testament to the quality of work that had to go into games during the time before easy access internet.
Oh hey, I just realized that this glitch would also let you see Yuffie's Unused Midgar Zolom Dialogue without the Debug Room or Cheats.
Huh. Seems to be based on the Breath of the Wild glitches where you load different parts of the map. Congratulations to those involved in the find.
No one seem to have good sensitivity. I'll be the only one then:
😲
Ironic, I'm making my friend play FF7 while i watch him since he never played it before and he's liking it a lot
I wonder if this clip could be used to somehow get Cloud to walk on the ocean. Then it could jump straight to Rocket Town and skip 50% of Disc 1. Based on the way the world map works you can't transition to a terrain type that isn't walkable, but this allowed Cloud on the river because his y position is 0.
Woooooooooow, you literally have to trick Za Warudo to get past Kalm. Good on ya m9s for cracking one of my favorite games!!!
That was cool. Looking forward to see the other skips and glitches.
I've been scrolling this comment section for 10 minutes and you're the first one that doesn't assume every glitch is found each time a new one is found (in other words thank you for having a brain unlike most of the rest of this community).
Well that's great Ive been thinking about speed running FF7 for a while now. Maybe I'll do it soon.
Deathblow rng, carry armor, materia keeper, and disc 2 in general is still horrific though
Felt like this video needed the summoning salt music for the intro
Square should release an update that addresses this glitch... and let's you ride your chocobo right up to the waterfall only to screech to a stop, hurling Cloud across the river. "What the hell? Wait is that a city over there?"
Just a reminder that this game is 24 years old! And we're still getting crazy new stuff out of it!
That'd be the same with any other game if you were as persistent on it.
@@hyakugame That depends on the game you're breaking. Some are more breakable than others. Source Games and Bethesda games are a hot topic because of how HARD you can break them.
moogleH moogleH
not sure why i watched this, I've never watched or done a speedrun but damn that was interesting.
We need more comments like yours
"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should"
On the rerelease on the PS4 (not the remake) you literally have a fast forward button that will make any section of dialogue take a few seconds, a "limit breaks are always usable" button, and an invincibility button. The skips and glitches are cool and I know this is kind of besides the point, but for the regular people I've seen post here a lot, who aren't speed running and just cba with a particular part, the rerelease has been out for years, is about 7 quid and addressed all these issues. It's also one of the easiest, most enjoyable platinum trophies I ever got. Being that I did all this stuff legit on the original PS multiple times I didn't feel bad fast forwarding and cheating certain bits from time to time, especially when it came to farming Magic Pots for AP.
you know 4-8 ... I never subscribed since watching your vids every now and then. Today things change. Today I sub because... Community.
I don't speedrun but I wanna try this just to get around the flashback. I love how much of a glitchy mess FFVII while still being a fully functional and enjoyable game. I love it for the same reason I enjoy Pokémon Red and Blue
I wish that the remake had actually just been a graphical improvement but with so cool new stuff added in. Basically, ways of causing things to happen like this that can change the game experience, but also leaves you the option to play normally.
So do you like Ever Crisis now?
"See, what you do is get a chocobo, then you go across the swamp and wait at the edge for Zolom and dismount right as he gets there, then you run from the fight and re-appear on the other side but your chocobo won't run away, then you have to go to this corner of the map and dismount while in the corner and then get back on, then you have to run past Kalm but you have to do it linearly and don't do any diagonal movements, then you have to run back to the corner area of the map in reverse, get into the corner, and dismount and VOILA! You will drop down through the map and can cross the river and go straight to Junon. I was originally working on a forumula for immortality but I got side-tracked by FFVII"
Hey I got to say this was a really good video well done and really entertaining it might be because I feel like you are also interested in the topic that you're talking about but I don't know
Im not here for the speedrunning, I just want to know how to skip the fucking Kalm sequence every time.
Kalm reminds me of why I didn't keep speedrunning Majoras Mask. Cycle 1 is such a bore.
Why do you return to my feed now? Now of all times? Is it truly to keep me from agitating my wife? Well played youtube
I knew about fallin threw the map an walkin across water did it as a kid by mistake never knew it would turn out to be so usefull tho 🤣
I don't do speed runs anymore, but when I replay the game I absolutely hate the kalm flash back
Mistakes were made, all this time people tried to save and revive Aeris. Now people are gonna look for Aeris death skip.
I was kinda expecting that this topic would be covered by you Death and you more than delivered, thank you for putting time into this. May I ask if you will create a FFVII iceberg? There's at least one out there, but by the way I know your content you're much more informed about stuff than other content creators. Not hating other creators, but that's the facts to me.
can you find something less dumb than iceberg memes for once
@@hyakugame
Nobody:
Literally nobody at all:
The dumber meme than iceberg memes:
The fact that Iceberg memes arent even flooding things that much:
The fact that the problem is that usually people are terrible at actually putting the facts in their respective "depths", usually with extremely well know facts being down at the absolute bottom, even though everyone and their uncle knows that "obscure" fact:
The fact that it's actually a pretty solid structure when done right:
People enjoying the game in potentially less that 1.5hrs and here i am with a 500+ hrs game file
Craziest part of this imo is that this is all possible because they made a joke about the PHS getting wet.
If it's possible to glitch under the map, couldn't this glitch be used to skip even larger sections of the game, by skipping Junon as well and going straight to the second continent from this point?
Or possibly to the knights of the round island?
This game... It's story, music and gameplay. It still reminds me when I was a child and had zero preoccupations in life, and all my beloved ones were still alive. Miss the old times.
I remember feeling bored and sloghed during Kalm on my first play through lol - so yeah.
You should make an FF7 video going in depth about certain locations in the map!
With the HD version with speed feature in it. Getting past that part is even faster except for the cgi bit.
I don’t think I’ve ever finished ff7 in anything less than 100 hours… haha
You like to level up lots of materia? I tried to birth more until I got bored lol.. if there was more to do after the WEAPONS and story I would still play it lol
@@skysetblue9578 used the triple Xp weapons and would grind them out. Plus the chocobo breeding for the golden bird… lol the games full of random stuff to eat up your time…
Wicked so happy for the ff7 community
Under 2h? Wat? I cant even get out of first factory in that time xD
I wonder if people can use this glitch to skip Aerith’s death
Not a speedrunner myself but i love how these sort of things are done and the mechanics behind them!
At least it gives the runner a break because a RPG speedrunner is so damn long
Man. Long time watcher. This was amazing to watch. Thanks Death. 💀
Good bye Kalm and Flashback. No more Dragon and Life 2 RNG ever again.
How the hell he figured that out? It's crazy...
I fondly recall my 24 hours on disc 1 in 1997.
But it won't work on the PS4 digital version.
Pretty neat really
New to speed runs..aren't you suppose to play the game as intended to be a real speed run with no exploits/hack/glitchs? I'm curious..
Speed runs can be grouped into certain categories, so this would be something like a glitch run where you finish as fast as possible using exploits and skips like the one shown. Others can be as extreme as finish all content as fast as possible in a 100% run or as specific to trigger a certain event ingame as fast as possible. The only real limit to the rules on a speed run are on the runners imagination.
Not only an amazing feat by Kumo discovering this, but an awesome job explaining it on your part. Thanks!
I can see the shirts now: *Skip Kalm and carry on*