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@@jefferson2214 I ad block, but for channels I like I'll watch their sponsored part. After all, I'm not paying anything and the vast majority of the channels I watch are obviously working hard at what they do. If I can help them not have a day job by watching 30 seconds of content then I will. Never buy anything though.
I thought heated grips were the STUPIDEST thing ever foisted on the cycling public...until I turned it on one cool-ish morning. I was able to see the sunrise and hear the harps and angels singing when I finally felt my fingers! ADDED BONUS: the post-ride piss is now something to be enjoyed rather than endured!
they also go on sale a lot and can be picked up for dirt cheap compared to the universals. I picked up my oxfords for only $80 on amazon and it had everything
I still think they are. When the cold REALLY starts blasting and you're doing a long trek the video was totally right. It heats your palms and nothing more. My heated grips were literally at times too hot to handle if let on full blast, but my fingers were still dead. I haven't tried heated gloves, but I'd believe anything is better than grips at this point.
@@WhiteChocolateTricks Heated gloves tend to heat the top of your hands and the grips heat the palms. Each alone will save you on a coldish day, but combined is needed for very cold temps. My hands go to ice very easily; the heated gloves negate the windchill but won't reheat them, the heated grips do that part.
Am I ever going to buy a bike? Most probably not.. Am I going to continue watching every F9 video that they will produce? Absolutely yes. Even as for non-biker it is amazingly structured and great videos that keeps me watching them all. Great job by F9 team!
You're not wrong. I grew up racing MX but never owned a motorcycle in my adulthood because well... married life haha! But I enjoy these videos and I'm happy to see the occasional MTB related content because that's where I get my kicks from these days.
I just want to shout out my sincere appreciation for the production quality. Particularly AUDIO Mixing/Levels. Ramping down music when the speaker is, err.. speaking, which allows for 5.1 audio without downmixing to plain stereo. THANK YOU. And Merry Christmas to ALL behind the FortNine channel😃 PS. Now you can make the videos longer. 18+ mins is acceptable. It doesn't matter what's in the content. just make more of it. Thanks. 🍁
Yesssss! New guy is finding his groove! Glad we kept him! Enjoyable, well scripted, funny but not trying to hard like in the start! Well done! Love your work!
I bought and used heated gear - a heated vest, pants and gloves - for the first time when I lived in Wisconsin. It's a game changer. No bulky clothes and toasty warm in freezing temps. It makes cold weather riding not just tolerable but enjoyable thereby extending the riding season.
Same. Have worn heated gloves and vest for probably 15 years. I ride touring bikes, so have fairings to protect my legs. As long as it ain't raining or freezing, I'm out there.
The videos featuring 45 just keep getting better and better. Give that clone a raise! My wife bought heated grips for my Harley and had them installed for my birthday; best accessory ever. Along with some hand guards to keep the wind off, my hands were never happier when riding in the cold.
Tiny story, Last Spring my buddy and I rode to Las Vegas from Vancouver. In the high plateau areas the temperature fell to -1 to +2 deg. Celsius. I had recently installed Oxford heated grips and they worked great in town,however….riding at a constant 110 kph, the power required to operate the Oxfords was too much for my 2nd gen. KLR 650 so the grips kept automatically shutting off. Super annoying and cold! Luckily I had also brought a pair of fleece gloves and a pair of waterproof mittens with a built-in liner. Wearing this combination totally did the trick. My fingers were warm I could operate, throttle and levers. Moral of the story is, I will depend less on gadgets and more on good, solid, reliable riding gear! Thanks FortNine, Petr
My wife and I have been riding with Gerbings heated jacket liners and gloves since 1996, and we always pack them on any trip. The heated arms and neck are IMHO must-haves. We also find we need to pack less bulky gear on trips, and even during the summer, this kit is great when dealing with the morning fog of the west coast or a cool mountain pass. I also use the warm and safe remote heat controller. Yellow for the Jacket and Red for the Gloves. I don't recall many people keeping a vest once they try a full jacket liner.
Yup, agreed. Once I tried the Gerbing jacket and glove combo, there was no going back. Use mine daily through UK winters. Plus Gerbing's services is outstanding. After 3 years of use one of my gloves had a slight pinch in the connector - not sure if it was my fault or a design fault. I asked them if they could repair them for me. No questions asked, they just sent me a brand new pair.
Been using First Gear's Warm and Safe heated gear for years. Doesn't break the bank, they have a "trade up" program, and they stand behind their gear. Bonus is you don't need 89172039820759123076401329857 different batteries and chargers since it's all hardwired into the bike via one plug that goes through their vest. I've owned a couple of pair of battery operated heated liners. They're awesome, until you lose the charger. Or the battery dies on a long trip. Or you forget to charge the battery and it's -10C outside. Hardwired gear doesn't lose power unless you blow a fuse.
LOVE this stuff. I ride year round. For me, my winter kit includes a hard wired heated vest, heated grips and bar covers (like hippo hands). Bar covers allow me to use a summer glove and have full mobility and access to all the bits and bobs that are arrayed on our bars and grips these days. Keep up the great content and humor!!!
I remember being so unprepared for my first end of riding season here, coming back home from the east of Québec on a super windy and cold November day. I almost thought I'd lost my fingers, had to stop at gas stations regularly to get coffees and stop shaking 😹 way to learn.
Heated gloves changed everything for me. I thought it was snake oil for the longest time, then 2 winters ago the five ones (I think the previous version to the ones in the video maybe), were on offer and I thought why not. I had a 4 hour ride in constant rain at about 2°C the first week I had them… that was me converted for life. I bought a second battery set off eBay so now I can go nearly 8 hours before needing charging. So much better than heated grips and you don’t have to fit them to every bike, plus actually installing oxfords is pretty annoying.
Cool to see the new tech! The gloves are intriguing... I've got a 20 yr old Widder vest still going strong, with the boingy-boingy switch cord which is great for standing. I've been telling a reluctant buddy of mine for the those 20 years that a vest is a game-changer (and the grips/gloves/socks are a bonus) and he FINALLY got one and now is like an excited kid! If you're on the fence about heated gear: just do it, it opens up so much more enjoyable and safe riding through the seasons. I have it on-hand even in the summer for those mountain rides, any kind of weather and temperature can and does happen at elevation.
Agreed. Heated vest IS a game changer, and you begin to notice that the temps don't have to be truly frigid to enjoy it, as you said. Naked bike with a bit less wind protection, even a summer morning in the mountains, etc. These have become a staple for me. If I HAD to ride long-distance in truly cold weather, I'd use the whole suite of things. But for me, heated vest and grips are enough to really extend the enjoyable riding envelope.
WIDDER!!! My vest and gloves are also over 20 years old. LOVE them in the winter. I did the Elefantentreffen last year and stayed nice and toasty. Did use Hippo Hands as well, though.
I had Oxford heated grips on my previous bike. Incredible piece of kit for an amazing price. Although I wouldn't trust the auto-shut off, it didn't work for me. Left me stranded with a flat battery the one time when I forgot to turn it off.
Don't trust auto turn off? Connect with relay! Don't pass all heating load over ignition switch. Great power gives great corrosion. Relay got low power control signal and enables connection between grips and battery.
Bought a KTM 690 Duke that had Oxford heated grips added by previous owner. Deffo helped with winter commute (bike's intended purpose). But having tried 'em, heated gloves are definitely better - especially when they can keep your digits warm when fiddling about with the required chav deterrent (locks, chains) that biking life in the UK necessitates.
for 8 years of riding i always scuffed at heated gear. i used evereything from layers to outers, to trash bags to keep wind and cold out. 2 years before i stopped riding sport bikes i decided to get a heated vest on sale. oh. my. god. it was like having my personal sun giving me nice and warmies inside my jacket. AND because now my core was warm, my hands were also warmer due to all the extra blood flow. that was a nice bonus i did NOT expect. ps. downside is ... i think the bike (rsv4) was not made with that in mind and i think i burned my stator by drawing much more power than normal haha
rode 1,000 miles over thanksgiving in as low as 24 degrees using oxford handlebar muffs (my bike also has heated grips). My hands get cold easily and even so I was able to wear my summer perforated gloves the entire time.
Heated visors are life changing. I thought it was a gimmick at first but then I tried one and it was suddenly something I wouldn't ride in the winter without. I wish more helmet manufacturers made heated options for their helmets. I have a 509 Delta R4 and it's great, but it would be nice to have more than like 3 options that fit my big bobble head.
Back in the early '80s I had heated glove liners. Thin gloves with wires running up and down the back of each digit, over the back of the hand to a power connector (the 9V battery kind). The wiring harness ran from the bottom of the jacket (Belstaff Trialmaster, the real one, stiff when frigid) up the back where it split, then a wire down each sleeve to the mating connector. (Think idiot mitts for children - or at least children of my vintage.) Don attire, connect gloves, start bike (kick), connect bottom connector to lead from battery, ride in comfort. Game changer, likely life saver, made commuting in winter (Vancouver) almost comfortable. Being just a liner I could wear different outer gloves to match the conditions (raining, not quite raining). Cold knees addressed with 1/4" EnsoLite foam tucked into the top of my (tall) riding boots and folded back over my knees, under my (Belstaff again) riding pants. Cheap and easy. Kudos to the production team. Top notch.
I used to ride in the winter all the time. If it was above 0F, I would ride. My cold weather riding gear was heated gloves and a heated liner. I never once had cold feet so didn't even know that heated socks was a thing. Heck I never knew that battery packs was a thing, I always had wired gear (loved the Avatar reference). I bet a heated visor is a game changer. Loved seeing all the new tech, great video.
Great video! Only thing I'm missing from your list is the heated seat. I'm saying that because I thought for years it was just a bogus option for rich dudes who want to brag, but this year my GF asked me if I could install a heated pad in her Vstrom 650. Did cost about 60 EUR and god damn it's amazing to keep you warm. I secretly take her bike now when the temperature drops =)
My two cents having tried heated gear over the years. Heated jacket > heated vest -- it's nicer to have warmth on one's arms too. Heated grips > heated gloves -- grips are always with you and you can always turn them on if you find your hands getting a little chilly.
Surprised you didn't mention grip guards. I bought some heated grips last year and they worked great, but it wasn't as cold as this year (around -5C). Bought some grip guards and it's been a lifesaver. Best part is there's no electronics to malfunction. I know the video is about heated gear, but you should also include that as they serve the purpose.
Many years ago I made my own heated grips for my 81 Suzuki. GS1000G. I got some nichrome element wire and a wire-wound reostat control from an old car's dash lights (new versions are solid state and don't work). The wires wrapped around the stock grips and I covered it with the rubber overlay for a cricket bat handle. It was heaven for winter riding. The Indian Springfield was the first bike I owned with heated grips stock. Even here on the warm east coast of Australia they got a fair bit of use. I sold the Indian and bought a Triumph Tiger, heated grips and also heated seat. Double love. However, a riding mate bought some heated bike pants with elements running down the front of his legs. The first time he turned them on he said the warmth slowing spreading down his legs felt like he'd wet his pants. And that's something i can't unsee.
I've been using Gurbing's heated jacket and gloves for about 12years here in the UK. They can be hardwired to the bike with temperature control or independently. I've found them to be brilliant.
Bought a pair of Gerbing gloves and I wouldn't part wiv 'em. I was a touch sceptical about the Sympatex lining as all the other "waterproof" linings bar Gore-Tex have been anything but after initial use, but the membrane seems to hold out at least as well as the big name in water resistant membranes.
100% keep the core warm and DONT heat cycle the extremeties... keep them exposed to a constant temperature. Preferably very cold. If your core is warm and everything is a constant temp your extremeties will receive proper bloodflow after a few "renalds cycles" if I remember the term correctly. The whole reason that your extremeties get cold is because your body is not confident enough to sacrefice heating the extremeties over the core. Make your body comfortable by not thermal cycling, especially the extremeties but both are very needed. And leave the hands exposed to more cold then the core otherwise they will just get sort of stuck with more constricted blood vessles than would otherwise be the case. Keeping them more exposed to the cold actually makes them warmer. In fact you can submerge your hands in ice water for a few blood constriction and unconstriction cycles along with having your core properly warm and then when your hands are taken out they will be given nice bloodflow for potentially a very long term... like months. But how long it lasts does seem to very person to person. Ideally you just never let your core get cold + never do rapid thermal cycling + keep your extremeties alot less insulated then your core. And with all that you will be fine.
I've been riding a snowmobile last week at somewhat around -30C and would have very much preferred the heated gloves to normal winter ski gloves, heated boots or socks would have helped a lot while walking around as well.
I use hotwired gloves and jacket liner, anything heated is a real game changer. I ride 1.5 hours-75 miles one way to work in 30° weather and it makes it bearable
In the 90's I bought heated wraps for my Police Harley. Later all the newer bikes came with heated grips. BUT after that first winter, and TX winters are more on the mild side, I decided that I would never own a bike that didn't have heated grips.
On my second pair of Oxfords for my FZ1 that has 133,000 miles on it. I found that the glue does start to breakdown after a few years as well as the rubber in the grips themselves. The heat cycles seem to play a big part in that. I never ride below 40 degrees Fahrenheit anymore so running them at middle temp on my winter commutes is plenty warm and makes a huge difference.
You forgot handlebar muffs. Low tech, and more effective in the cold (and rain) than most of what you've mentioned. Being able to wear summer gloves all year round is a big plus, in terms of performance.
A year ago I invested in heated liners from my jacket and pants. I went with a model that is powered by my bike. They are a game changer for cold weather riding. I no longer need multiple bulky layers. Tshirt + electric liner + 4 season riding jacket shell is plenty to ride down the freezing point comfortably.
Another alternative is USB powered (GSXS1000GT+) heated grip wraps that go OVER your grips. I got a set last winter for $30 on Amazon, used them all through late February (Colorado) with heated gloves, when it got warmer I simply peeled them off and put them away. Now it's winter again, so I just put them on and go, this year I'm installing hand guards for even more protection. Saved about $400 over OEM heated grips.
I got one of those vests, but not for motorcycles. Kinchrome gave some out to stores and warehouses as a promo from their reps. Few years back when I worked warehousing...it's my favourite winter accessory to this day.
I got a Milwaukee heated sweatshirt because it was the cheapest option and i already had batteries for it. I found that heating my core kept my body from pulling the blood back from my hands and feet pike it does when you're getting cold to keep your core temperature up. Seems like the best bang for the buck option because it literally heats your whole body
I also use a Milwaukee jacket liner. Gets plenty hot, that I never have to set it on high. Being 12 volt, I power it directly from the bike's electrical system, with a extension cable and an adapter for the Powerlet socket.
I cobbled together my own heated visor about 30 years ago; one of my Widder (the only game in town in those days) electric gloves was worn out, and I cannibalized it. A simple one-piece snowmobile suit and balaclava over my normal armored gear was my usual Winter commute go-to, but for cold rainywheather nothing beat a pair of bootfoot neoprene waders over my armored jacket, and a raincoat over that. I once rode from Wash DC to Philadelphia in constant rainy sleet and wasn't cold. I just had to bring a pair of shoes with me for when the waders came off!
I'v had Oxfords heated grips on multiple bikes now. Best mod for comfort ever! And its cheap. And they are better than most heated grips that you can order for your bike from the manufactorer. Only downside, like said in the video is that they change the grip width, what will take a little bit to get used to. I have them even on my rally bike, great if you have to ride all day in rain and your gloves are super wet :)
Oxford heated grips and a Zarke 12 volt electric jacket. Winter in Australia where I live is around -10 to -12 C. Riding in winter you need to induce heat into the body not matter how many layers you have. Now a heated seat is Luxury staring feeling for sure but does make a difference.
My Ultra Limited comes w/ heated grips and anything past about 2 is too hot...they work really well. Years ago I bought a combination of Gerbing and Harley branded (made by Gerbing back then) gear. Gloves, jacket liner and pants plus a dual controller. The stuff works amazing and keeps you in a warm cocoon. I rarely even use the pants as the Bilt armored over-pant with quilted liner is typically good enough. But I do have them just in case. This gear keeps me riding into the 20s as long as the roads are clear. Recently the right glove stopped heating, and Gerbing repaired and sent back to me. Great customer service. Highly recommend.
I used to ride my KLR well into the winter. Oxford heated grips are the bomb, but only go so far to keeping your grippers warm. If you want to get serious about still feeling your fingers get a set of Hippo Hands to go with your grips. With that combination I could ride all throughout the cold New England winters with no need for heated gloves. Salted roads was my enemy, not the cold. Fortunately I moved overseas to the Tropics and dont have to deal with winter riding again so I am looking forward to the eventual "How to stay cool in hot weather" video.
the price premium on some manufacturers and gloves is the guarantee that your gloves are indeed motor=protective in the unfortunate case of a crash or slide ...
Me and a buddy have had good luck with the bike master brand heated grips. They’re about $50 but don’t have the auto shut off. He’s had them on his bike for many years and I’ve not had any issues with mine over the years. I’ve paired them with the dumb looking Oxford bar muffs and can ride sub 32* F without additional gloves over my riding gloves
If you're going to be riding in the rain (Scotland), keep a cople of pairs of nitrile gloves handy, put them on under your gloves and when the waterproofing inevitably starts to leak your skin stays dry. A little bit sweaty, but not all pruney and cold at least. Also, oilskins, wear them over your most confortable gear. Way more confort than any "waterproof" trousers I've ever tried, and actually stop water getting in. And windproof.
Can vouch for oxford heated grips, I installed many pairs over the years and never had one fail or even wear down the rubber. And this is whilst leaving the bikes parked in the street for about half the time I had them. And I sure use them to the max, I get cold hands extremely easy Complement them with nice thick winter gloves, and it's the cheapest and easiest way to survive cold riding.
Power in motion gloves which can go under a cover layer. Lenz heated socks which are excellent. Milwaukee heated vest. I rode every month in Canada with this gear and used it for skiing and all outdoor activities during our long Canadian winters.
I'm really happy to see that there are some good dual power source options out now. I like battery, but it always seems to run out at the worst possible time and those packs can take hours to charge back up. Being able to switch over to wired power in a pinch is a game changer.
Love you folks! Always informative and entertaining. But in this case? I think it might be worth while to go across to check out the gear from those crazy folks who ride those ski and tracked contraptions in the dead of snowy winters. I was a competitors brick and mortar store in my neck of the deck (rhymes with 'spoil contributing') and I found the snowmobile gear was less costly and better performing (helmets included -- remember they have to be approved for road use too). What's 'extreme cold' on a bike is happy-spring riding on a Snowmobile.
I was given heated grips for my XR one year, and they were everything when combined with the wind deflection from the bark busters. Maybe even made up for the total lack of windscreen
The best combo for keeping hands warm in cold weather riding is heated grips and bar muffs. As good as they are hideous. You can wear thinner gloves and have all your dexterity. The micro climate created by the muffs is unbeatable.
I've been riding since the 80's. I do have heated grips, which are nice and would have been great in my youth. I would ride in all weather's back then. These days, being a fair weather fairy suits me fine. My car has both superb heating, cold AC and good working wipers. Great info on what wonderful tech is around these days
At the moment I’m using Oxford heated grips with bar mitts. Keeps the wind chill and rain off and I only need the lowest setting. At -2c I go one setting up. We’ll see if it gets cold enough to break out my heated gloves. Also using a heated jacket, which is great and goes underneath my textile jacket. Plugs into the bike with a controller. Also has cables in the sleeves to connect the gloves. The heated gloves I have (Gerbing) were constructed flat rather than curved. Not only does this fatigue your fingers as you have to fight them to grip the bars, but it also means you get hot spots on your knuckles, so I wear silk line gloves underneath for protection. If I’m not using the bar mitts with heated grips, heated gloves are the best option! I’d like to try a newer gloves and/or different brands though. I’ve had these for about 7 years.
Heated helmet visors are absolutely way the to go! Great in the cold and in the rain. My commute often goes through freezing fog and the heated visor allows me to see with no problem at all. Huge game changer!
I live in the mountains of Mongolia and try to ride all Winter. It's a similar climate to Yellowknife, NT, Canada just for reference. So I'm general doing my off-road/off-trail riding in snow and ice in about -25 to -30C (-20F). I just ride for fun and not high speeds and the duration is about 1 hour at the most. I've kitted out my Surron Ultra Bee with Oxford Hot Grip Wraps. They are removable velcro attached wraps. These are insanely hot on high (80C) and still hot on low (55C). Then I wear heated glove liners (7.4v) so I can chose any glove (size up). Also heated socks (7.4v). That's it for heated stuff. I don't want to be wired to the bike because in snow, I fall off quite a lot. So batteries that are carried are essential. 7.4v is a bit weak but does the job since I also have the heated grips and Oxford handlebar muffs. Like Hippo hands but for 1/3 the price. The weak link is my helmet visor or goggles. I can't stop them frosting up after about an hour and I can't justify $300 for a heated helmet or goggles. I'm still looking for a cost effective solution.
I chose the keis heated jacket because there's nothing like getting those arms warmed. For hands, revit just put out a pair of gloves that are made to work with heated grips (fusion 3 GTX), meaning less insulation on the palm and ... they actually work. And for those pesky toes, some cheap chemical heat pads work a treat, with some good wool socks. Now if I can only do something about the helmets' shield, on a cold foggy day, the pinlock is not enough.
I have the Oxford heated grips. I love them because they are always there, you cant exactly forget to bring them. And yes, 100% is way too hot to ever use, but somehow thats always very reassuring.
I rode a electric “bicycle” in Beijing through the two past winters, and heated grips are what kept me a year round rider. The heated gloves I tried were too bulky in the wrist with the battery, and sometimes wouldn’t last the full way.
I had hardwired Gerbing glove and jacket liners when I was a year round rider in Toronto. Would recommend against glove liners, they never got warm enough and it's hard to fit them under properly sized gloves. I'd opt for battery powered unless you're really in to winter road trips, the cables get annoying quickly. Waiting for a good battery heated onesie underlayer for winter motorcycle and hunting.
Commuting on foggy visor days, I used to tape a fat bendy straw cut to size to the inside of my chin guard with the end hanging below the helmet, and breathe out through that when necessary (traffic lights etc). Low tech, effective, practically free, and keeps the carbon dioxide level inside the helmet down too. There's probably a similar but better version you could knock up with some rubber tubing or something - I was too lazy.
Gave up heated grips years ago , I use heated gloves with batteries in cuff , on top temperature last 3 hours and hat all of hand , full gets the lot , not just your palms not like grips For wind chill use a decent set and f hand Gaurds which cover all of wind flow and rain egress . Best bit gloves , they can be moved between bikes . Oh did I say i always carry a spare set of batteries for the gloves 😊😊🤣🤣
Hang in there, 44! In the meantime, 45 has got you covered! With a heated vest, apparently... Anyway, nice vid, though I can't really see myself going out for cold rides---at least, not at my current level of riding skill. Maybe next year.
I've been running heated gear for the past few years now. I will never go back to not having heated gear. I ride in 25 degree weather in the winter and I'm always comfortable.
Another fine Public Service film. Oxford also produce Hot Hands which are over grips. They are either on or off, very simple to fit and get tres chaud. Combined with some cheap handlebar muffs I can just about ride with summer gloves in the UK winter. Cheers.
Might have to try those heated gloves when I decide to ride outside of the hot af hell pit that is Florida. It only gets cold enough to really require anything more than liners or thermal long John's like 2 days a year but as I said, when I move I'll need better gear
I actually bought that Mobile warming vest last year. While it's greet on the bike with the 12v hookup, it should be noted the battery sucks. There's no good place to put it, and the connector cable is tucked away in it's own little pocket, to small to fit any kind of a battery. I personally wouldn't recommend if you plan on using the battery at all.
I've got good winter gloves and a set of heated grips. This usually keeps me warm for my winter rides at down to -5°C - also those are usually shorter than 1h. Also i noticed that big handguards keep a lot of cold wind off your gloves at higher speeds and help additionally.
Those oxford grips are amazing. I had to buy a 2nd pair because my dog ate though my controller wires, so even paying double the price they are great value. I've been switching the heating grips between bikes for years now with 0 problems. I had under pads for a while, and they which were only ok, but they burnt themselves out or something, getting suddenly stupid hot, then never turned on again after like 4 months.
Adding heated grips to my previous CRF250L, to get the left grip to heat better, I acquired another right grip, wrapped the bar with a thin, self-adhesive cork sheet, and a wrap of packing tape to assist getting the grip on, and used an air compressor to get the grip slipped over. Heated just as well as the right grip with the plastic throttle tube.
Heated grips are a must for me now, I bought just the basic Oxfords to put on my 125 since it's cold in Scotland basically 9 months of the year. Total game changer, and I'm still riding now in the middle of December with just a couple of extra layers, heated grips and LS2 summer gloves.
Heated gloves are considerably more expensive, but also far better than grips. Plus you get a water resistant membrane with most options. The gripe I have with my Gerbing gloves (cost aside) is that the supplied motorcycle battery cable is too short to be of any use. I suspect they're trying to flog you a pair of additional battery packs that can be stowed in zipped pockets in the glove sleeves. But since I'm too cheap for that I sourced an SAE to DC extension to fit to my existing battery charger hook up.
I had a Widder heated vest for many years and it saved my ass numerous times. I tended to get cold in the shoulder area so I got a Gerbing jacket liner that has heat all the way down the sleeves. I have some heated gloves also but the liner seems to do a good job with a decent pair of winter gloves. My Concours has heated grips which are nice but the liner keeps me warm enough.
Mobile Warming as a company utilized me and my work for their advertising imagery in 2016; they never paid and denied the use. I was a younger photographer at the time so I didn't have any idea about contracts or licensing-- but ever since then I've never purchased or bought from their company since.
Just had a money saving tip , as I’m an oldie I’ve bought my like wise relatives a long hot water bottle 80cms , it’s not very wide and flat even when filled , it comes with straps so you can wear it to keep your core warm , best of all it’s not very expensive. I reckon you could wear it under your expensive winter jacket to keep you Toasty, and save a fortune on electrical wizardry 👍👍👍😊😊
I tried a heated vest once. The vest alone kept me warm. I tried the heating feature, but it wasn't really necessary or even desired. Get your grandmother to knit you a wool vest. I have a pair of heated gloves, or at least I had a pair. The gloves quit working after a few years. I found that one, and then the other, battery quit requiring a charge. The gloves themselves had quit working. This illustrates one of the problems with heated gear: heated gear fails, so you still have to carry the same insulating layers you did when you didn't have heated gear. My solution was a pair of three-finger, or lobster gloves. Not the shooting mittens that separate the index finger from the rest, though some people might prefer those. The three-finger gloves are shockingly warm, and they still allow me to use two fingers on my brake lever. Use a CrampBuster so you don't have to grip the throttle with you weakest fingers.
Another added mention is makita or milwaukee heated vests or jackets. You may already have batteries that power these fairly affordable pieces of gear and they work great when worn under another layer.
if your hands and feet are cold, it is a sign your chest area is cold. the body reduces blood flow to the hands and feet (and tip of your nose) to keep warm blood near the organs. if your hands are cold, but on another sweater. if you get too warm, vent the heat out of your hands and not buy opening your jacket.
Heated grips are a must. It's my second winter without them, and I've got to get them on this bike. If the manufacturer ones STILL aren't in, I'm getting Oxford ones for sure. And after my last experience on winter rides, where my hands got so cold I could barely operate the clutch, I'm going to try heated gloves. RST ones get the best reviews on my site of choice, and I know the brand fits my freaky spider-fingers. Heated insoles are a neat idea, but I've got merino wool socks instead. Paired with thick work socks underneath, there's no pocket of cold air in my gore-tex boots to get colder. My socked feet just sort of fill the boots up like jelly in a mould. Core temperature isn't an issue for me. My new winter jacket is insulated and windproof (mostly), so as long as I eat something before I ride, I'm fine. I just need to have a hot chocolate and a snack halfway through the ride, but what's a ride without a cafe break anyway? And it's not like I can't stand to burn a few kilos of padding and insulation to stay warm.
Love your vids. I bought 120€ heated china gloves from amazon last year and those let me ride (with 5 layers) in -5°C on the motorway at 130km/h. Those are the only heated things i have. Everything else is layers.
I had heated grips installed on my CRF 300 Rally before i would take delivery, of course it was winter time and i had a 30 minute ride back home although i do some cold weather riding on occasion and it allows me to wear a less insulated glove as well depending on how frigid the weather is of course!
I just got the full Macna heated kit: jacket, pants, socks, gloves. All connected to each other and the battery. remote controlled by a single app, where you can adjust everything individually, or group items together (e.g. left and right sock). I like that bit of simplicity in a full kit. Not sure if it's available in CAN USA tho.
Seems kinda wasteful to spend money on heated gear just to keep a clone comfortable
Wow
Meh, just put it on the tab...
Couldn't they just overclock him? He wouldn't last as long... but is that necessarily a problem.
The clones unionized
The cool part is all the clones apparently have the same fit, so the gear just becomes hand me downs. Gotta keep the help happy y'know.
One thing I appreciate about this channel is that while the sponsored bit is present, it's over quickly, relevant and not overly in-your-face pushy. Keep up the good work fellas.
Yea I actually watched through it unlike almost every other channel on this site
Their product placement is pretty spectacular. These lads have been trained well at film school.
THIS VIDEO IS SPONSORED BY KEEPS!!! seriously youtubers don't know how to be subtle
or u can use sponsorblock extension like a normal human
You've skipped 537 segments ( 5h 29.5 minutes )
@@jefferson2214 I ad block, but for channels I like I'll watch their sponsored part. After all, I'm not paying anything and the vast majority of the channels I watch are obviously working hard at what they do. If I can help them not have a day job by watching 30 seconds of content then I will. Never buy anything though.
I thought heated grips were the STUPIDEST thing ever foisted on the cycling public...until I turned it on one cool-ish morning. I was able to see the sunrise and hear the harps and angels singing when I finally felt my fingers! ADDED BONUS: the post-ride piss is now something to be enjoyed rather than endured!
they also go on sale a lot and can be picked up for dirt cheap compared to the universals. I picked up my oxfords for only $80 on amazon and it had everything
I still think they are. When the cold REALLY starts blasting and you're doing a long trek the video was totally right. It heats your palms and nothing more. My heated grips were literally at times too hot to handle if let on full blast, but my fingers were still dead. I haven't tried heated gloves, but I'd believe anything is better than grips at this point.
Note to self: DO NOT TOUCH member with frozen hands. Thanks for the advice!👍😁
@@timwagster9458 Try taking a piss while holding a hand full of ice cubes. That's the experience. Wim Hof eat your heart out!
@@WhiteChocolateTricks Heated gloves tend to heat the top of your hands and the grips heat the palms. Each alone will save you on a coldish day, but combined is needed for very cold temps. My hands go to ice very easily; the heated gloves negate the windchill but won't reheat them, the heated grips do that part.
Am I ever going to buy a bike? Most probably not.. Am I going to continue watching every F9 video that they will produce? Absolutely yes. Even as for non-biker it is amazingly structured and great videos that keeps me watching them all. Great job by F9 team!
You likely will if you continue watching. I know I did.
You're not wrong. I grew up racing MX but never owned a motorcycle in my adulthood because well... married life haha! But I enjoy these videos and I'm happy to see the occasional MTB related content because that's where I get my kicks from these days.
we ALL started out that way.
Easy fix. Buy a bike.
it's a question of time, you'll see. 👍
I just want to shout out my sincere appreciation for the production quality. Particularly AUDIO Mixing/Levels. Ramping down music when the speaker is, err.. speaking, which allows for 5.1 audio without downmixing to plain stereo. THANK YOU. And Merry Christmas to ALL behind the FortNine channel😃 PS. Now you can make the videos longer. 18+ mins is acceptable. It doesn't matter what's in the content. just make more of it. Thanks. 🍁
Yesssss! New guy is finding his groove! Glad we kept him! Enjoyable, well scripted, funny but not trying to hard like in the start! Well done! Love your work!
unlike the other 45, this ones actually not an idiot
Ya I’m not as much a fan of the mountain bike guy but this dude is great
I bought and used heated gear - a heated vest, pants and gloves - for the first time when I lived in Wisconsin. It's a game changer. No bulky clothes and toasty warm in freezing temps. It makes cold weather riding not just tolerable but enjoyable thereby extending the riding season.
Same. Have worn heated gloves and vest for probably 15 years. I ride touring bikes, so have fairings to protect my legs. As long as it ain't raining or freezing, I'm out there.
how much does that extend into snow & ice?
That 1:35 “NBA trophy wife” joke was gold 😂
The videos featuring 45 just keep getting better and better. Give that clone a raise!
My wife bought heated grips for my Harley and had them installed for my birthday; best accessory ever. Along with some hand guards to keep the wind off, my hands were never happier when riding in the cold.
Tiny story,
Last Spring my buddy and I rode to Las Vegas from Vancouver. In the high plateau areas the temperature fell to -1 to +2 deg. Celsius. I had recently installed Oxford heated grips and they worked great in town,however….riding at a constant 110 kph, the power required to operate the Oxfords was too much for my 2nd gen. KLR 650 so the grips kept automatically shutting off. Super annoying and cold! Luckily I had also brought a pair of fleece gloves and a pair of waterproof mittens with a built-in liner. Wearing this combination totally did the trick. My fingers were warm I could operate, throttle and levers.
Moral of the story is, I will depend less on gadgets and more on good, solid, reliable riding gear!
Thanks FortNine,
Petr
My wife and I have been riding with Gerbings heated jacket liners and gloves since 1996, and we always pack them on any trip. The heated arms and neck are IMHO must-haves. We also find we need to pack less bulky gear on trips, and even during the summer, this kit is great when dealing with the morning fog of the west coast or a cool mountain pass. I also use the warm and safe remote heat controller. Yellow for the Jacket and Red for the Gloves. I don't recall many people keeping a vest once they try a full jacket liner.
Yup, agreed. Once I tried the Gerbing jacket and glove combo, there was no going back. Use mine daily through UK winters.
Plus Gerbing's services is outstanding. After 3 years of use one of my gloves had a slight pinch in the connector - not sure if it was my fault or a design fault. I asked them if they could repair them for me. No questions asked, they just sent me a brand new pair.
Im gonna look into something like that! Seems much easier than stacking 3 layers of clothing under my jacket :)!
A honorable mention of Hippo Hands. Yes, they are not the heated gear but totally awesome in keeping the wind off your hands and wrists.
Looks goofy but the utility and protection mean wearing summer gloves all year round here in SoCal.
Yes, they are great. And your stator will thank you later
With Hippo Hands and cheap AliExpress heated grips, I haven’t needed heated gloves down to 20°F.
@@Fireballsocal The times when I cared about the looks are way behind, especially when the alternative is getting the hands frozen.
@@ii7317 I'm right there with ya bud.
Been using First Gear's Warm and Safe heated gear for years.
Doesn't break the bank, they have a "trade up" program, and they stand behind their gear. Bonus is you don't need 89172039820759123076401329857 different batteries and chargers since it's all hardwired into the bike via one plug that goes through their vest.
I've owned a couple of pair of battery operated heated liners. They're awesome, until you lose the charger. Or the battery dies on a long trip. Or you forget to charge the battery and it's -10C outside. Hardwired gear doesn't lose power unless you blow a fuse.
You ride when it's -10°??? 😬🥶
@@dorothysimpson7040 Pfft, that's only 14 Freedomheit, c'mon. :)
LOVE this stuff. I ride year round. For me, my winter kit includes a hard wired heated vest, heated grips and bar covers (like hippo hands). Bar covers allow me to use a summer glove and have full mobility and access to all the bits and bobs that are arrayed on our bars and grips these days. Keep up the great content and humor!!!
I remember being so unprepared for my first end of riding season here, coming back home from the east of Québec on a super windy and cold November day. I almost thought I'd lost my fingers, had to stop at gas stations regularly to get coffees and stop shaking 😹 way to learn.
Heated gloves changed everything for me. I thought it was snake oil for the longest time, then 2 winters ago the five ones (I think the previous version to the ones in the video maybe), were on offer and I thought why not.
I had a 4 hour ride in constant rain at about 2°C the first week I had them… that was me converted for life. I bought a second battery set off eBay so now I can go nearly 8 hours before needing charging.
So much better than heated grips and you don’t have to fit them to every bike, plus actually installing oxfords is pretty annoying.
Dude I LOVE my heated ovens😂😂😂
I agree the gloves are a better solution but the heated grips are always available.
@@Civilmoss99Pizza!
5:23 Drop the ad. Everyone has ads.
@@robertgoerssPay them more for the content and they might drop them, ya uppity entity.
Cool to see the new tech! The gloves are intriguing... I've got a 20 yr old Widder vest still going strong, with the boingy-boingy switch cord which is great for standing. I've been telling a reluctant buddy of mine for the those 20 years that a vest is a game-changer (and the grips/gloves/socks are a bonus) and he FINALLY got one and now is like an excited kid! If you're on the fence about heated gear: just do it, it opens up so much more enjoyable and safe riding through the seasons. I have it on-hand even in the summer for those mountain rides, any kind of weather and temperature can and does happen at elevation.
Agreed. Heated vest IS a game changer, and you begin to notice that the temps don't have to be truly frigid to enjoy it, as you said. Naked bike with a bit less wind protection, even a summer morning in the mountains, etc. These have become a staple for me. If I HAD to ride long-distance in truly cold weather, I'd use the whole suite of things. But for me, heated vest and grips are enough to really extend the enjoyable riding envelope.
WIDDER!!! My vest and gloves are also over 20 years old. LOVE them in the winter. I did the Elefantentreffen last year and stayed nice and toasty. Did use Hippo Hands as well, though.
I had Oxford heated grips on my previous bike. Incredible piece of kit for an amazing price. Although I wouldn't trust the auto-shut off, it didn't work for me. Left me stranded with a flat battery the one time when I forgot to turn it off.
Ive got mine wired through my ignition switch, so no risk of draining the battery.
For what its worth, mine have worked every time on my t7. I think it works off of voltage jitter, so maybe something else was bothering your battery?
Don't trust auto turn off? Connect with relay! Don't pass all heating load over ignition switch. Great power gives great corrosion. Relay got low power control signal and enables connection between grips and battery.
Bought a KTM 690 Duke that had Oxford heated grips added by previous owner.
Deffo helped with winter commute (bike's intended purpose).
But having tried 'em, heated gloves are definitely better - especially when they can keep your digits warm when fiddling about with the required chav deterrent (locks, chains) that biking life in the UK necessitates.
@@igorgoryunov5616 Can you explain further please why to use a relay. How will that avoid running the battery flat accidentally? Thank-you.
for 8 years of riding i always scuffed at heated gear. i used evereything from layers to outers, to trash bags to keep wind and cold out. 2 years before i stopped riding sport bikes i decided to get a heated vest on sale. oh. my. god. it was like having my personal sun giving me nice and warmies inside my jacket. AND because now my core was warm, my hands were also warmer due to all the extra blood flow. that was a nice bonus i did NOT expect. ps. downside is ... i think the bike (rsv4) was not made with that in mind and i think i burned my stator by drawing much more power than normal haha
rode 1,000 miles over thanksgiving in as low as 24 degrees using oxford handlebar muffs (my bike also has heated grips). My hands get cold easily and even so I was able to wear my summer perforated gloves the entire time.
Ah, yes. Winter riding. I remember winter last year- it was a Wednesday. Hi from Brisbane, Australia!
When I bought my new bike, I had 1 accesory fitted from the dealer. OEM heated grips, even integrates into the cluster. Really sweet.
Heated visors are life changing. I thought it was a gimmick at first but then I tried one and it was suddenly something I wouldn't ride in the winter without. I wish more helmet manufacturers made heated options for their helmets. I have a 509 Delta R4 and it's great, but it would be nice to have more than like 3 options that fit my big bobble head.
Back in the early '80s I had heated glove liners. Thin gloves with wires running up and down the back of each digit, over the back of the hand to a power connector (the 9V battery kind). The wiring harness ran from the bottom of the jacket (Belstaff Trialmaster, the real one, stiff when frigid) up the back where it split, then a wire down each sleeve to the mating connector. (Think idiot mitts for children - or at least children of my vintage.) Don attire, connect gloves, start bike (kick), connect bottom connector to lead from battery, ride in comfort. Game changer, likely life saver, made commuting in winter (Vancouver) almost comfortable. Being just a liner I could wear different outer gloves to match the conditions (raining, not quite raining).
Cold knees addressed with 1/4" EnsoLite foam tucked into the top of my (tall) riding boots and folded back over my knees, under my (Belstaff again) riding pants. Cheap and easy.
Kudos to the production team. Top notch.
I used to ride in the winter all the time. If it was above 0F, I would ride. My cold weather riding gear was heated gloves and a heated liner. I never once had cold feet so didn't even know that heated socks was a thing. Heck I never knew that battery packs was a thing, I always had wired gear (loved the Avatar reference). I bet a heated visor is a game changer. Loved seeing all the new tech, great video.
Great video! Only thing I'm missing from your list is the heated seat. I'm saying that because I thought for years it was just a bogus option for rich dudes who want to brag, but this year my GF asked me if I could install a heated pad in her Vstrom 650. Did cost about 60 EUR and god damn it's amazing to keep you warm. I secretly take her bike now when the temperature drops =)
My two cents having tried heated gear over the years.
Heated jacket > heated vest -- it's nicer to have warmth on one's arms too.
Heated grips > heated gloves -- grips are always with you and you can always turn them on if you find your hands getting a little chilly.
Surprised you didn't mention grip guards. I bought some heated grips last year and they worked great, but it wasn't as cold as this year (around -5C). Bought some grip guards and it's been a lifesaver. Best part is there's no electronics to malfunction.
I know the video is about heated gear, but you should also include that as they serve the purpose.
Many years ago I made my own heated grips for my 81 Suzuki. GS1000G. I got some nichrome element wire and a wire-wound reostat control from an old car's dash lights (new versions are solid state and don't work). The wires wrapped around the stock grips and I covered it with the rubber overlay for a cricket bat handle. It was heaven for winter riding.
The Indian Springfield was the first bike I owned with heated grips stock. Even here on the warm east coast of Australia they got a fair bit of use. I sold the Indian and bought a Triumph Tiger, heated grips and also heated seat. Double love.
However, a riding mate bought some heated bike pants with elements running down the front of his legs. The first time he turned them on he said the warmth slowing spreading down his legs felt like he'd wet his pants. And that's something i can't unsee.
I've been using Gurbing's heated jacket and gloves for about 12years here in the UK. They can be hardwired to the bike with temperature control or independently. I've found them to be brilliant.
Bought a pair of Gerbing gloves and I wouldn't part wiv 'em.
I was a touch sceptical about the Sympatex lining as all the other "waterproof" linings bar Gore-Tex have been anything but after initial use, but the membrane seems to hold out at least as well as the big name in water resistant membranes.
100% keep the core warm and DONT heat cycle the extremeties... keep them exposed to a constant temperature. Preferably very cold.
If your core is warm and everything is a constant temp your extremeties will receive proper bloodflow after a few "renalds cycles" if I remember the term correctly.
The whole reason that your extremeties get cold is because your body is not confident enough to sacrefice heating the extremeties over the core.
Make your body comfortable by not thermal cycling, especially the extremeties but both are very needed. And leave the hands exposed to more cold then the core otherwise they will just get sort of stuck with more constricted blood vessles than would otherwise be the case. Keeping them more exposed to the cold actually makes them warmer.
In fact you can submerge your hands in ice water for a few blood constriction and unconstriction cycles along with having your core properly warm and then when your hands are taken out they will be given nice bloodflow for potentially a very long term... like months. But how long it lasts does seem to very person to person.
Ideally you just never let your core get cold + never do rapid thermal cycling + keep your extremeties alot less insulated then your core. And with all that you will be fine.
If you're broke like me, l love handlebar mitts with light gloves,several sizes and styles on fleabay ..... cheap and so warm. Great video as always.
Heated gloves are honestly a game changer, if you only get one, that would be the one I'd recommend
Which one though, left or right? : )
@@loddude5706 lol
Without cruise control, get the right, left can always shelter by the engine.
100% agree. I regularly ride into the single digits, and the only heated gear I’ve ever needed were heated gloves
Give handlebar mitts a try .... ride with light gloves, 😂game changer
I've been riding a snowmobile last week at somewhat around -30C and would have very much preferred the heated gloves to normal winter ski gloves, heated boots or socks would have helped a lot while walking around as well.
I use hotwired gloves and jacket liner, anything heated is a real game changer. I ride 1.5 hours-75 miles one way to work in 30° weather and it makes it bearable
In the 90's I bought heated wraps for my Police Harley. Later all the newer bikes came with heated grips. BUT after that first winter, and TX winters are more on the mild side, I decided that I would never own a bike that didn't have heated grips.
I've had a Warm&Safe heated sweater for years and it's outstanding. I don't go on any long trips without it.
On my second pair of Oxfords for my FZ1 that has 133,000 miles on it. I found that the glue does start to breakdown after a few years as well as the rubber in the grips themselves. The heat cycles seem to play a big part in that. I never ride below 40 degrees Fahrenheit anymore so running them at middle temp on my winter commutes is plenty warm and makes a huge difference.
You forgot handlebar muffs. Low tech, and more effective in the cold (and rain) than most of what you've mentioned. Being able to wear summer gloves all year round is a big plus, in terms of performance.
A year ago I invested in heated liners from my jacket and pants. I went with a model that is powered by my bike.
They are a game changer for cold weather riding.
I no longer need multiple bulky layers. Tshirt + electric liner + 4 season riding jacket shell is plenty to ride down the freezing point comfortably.
Another alternative is USB powered (GSXS1000GT+) heated grip wraps that go OVER your grips. I got a set last winter for $30 on Amazon, used them all through late February (Colorado) with heated gloves, when it got warmer I simply peeled them off and put them away. Now it's winter again, so I just put them on and go, this year I'm installing hand guards for even more protection. Saved about $400 over OEM heated grips.
I got one of those vests, but not for motorcycles. Kinchrome gave some out to stores and warehouses as a promo from their reps. Few years back when I worked warehousing...it's my favourite winter accessory to this day.
I got a Milwaukee heated sweatshirt because it was the cheapest option and i already had batteries for it. I found that heating my core kept my body from pulling the blood back from my hands and feet pike it does when you're getting cold to keep your core temperature up. Seems like the best bang for the buck option because it literally heats your whole body
I also use a Milwaukee jacket liner. Gets plenty hot, that I never have to set it on high. Being 12 volt, I power it directly from the bike's electrical system, with a extension cable and an adapter for the Powerlet socket.
I cobbled together my own heated visor about 30 years ago; one of my Widder (the only game in town in those days) electric gloves was worn out, and I cannibalized it. A simple one-piece snowmobile suit and balaclava over my normal armored gear was my usual Winter commute go-to, but for cold rainywheather nothing beat a pair of bootfoot neoprene waders over my armored jacket, and a raincoat over that. I once rode from Wash DC to Philadelphia in constant rainy sleet and wasn't cold. I just had to bring a pair of shoes with me for when the waders came off!
I'v had Oxfords heated grips on multiple bikes now. Best mod for comfort ever! And its cheap. And they are better than most heated grips that you can order for your bike from the manufactorer.
Only downside, like said in the video is that they change the grip width, what will take a little bit to get used to. I have them even on my rally bike, great if you have to ride all day in rain and your gloves are super wet :)
Very very very nice shot at 5:09, one of the best I've seen on this channel
Oxford heated grips and a Zarke 12 volt electric jacket. Winter in Australia where I live is around -10 to -12 C. Riding in winter you need to induce heat into the body not matter how many layers you have. Now a heated seat is Luxury staring feeling for sure but does make a difference.
My Ultra Limited comes w/ heated grips and anything past about 2 is too hot...they work really well. Years ago I bought a combination of Gerbing and Harley branded (made by Gerbing back then) gear. Gloves, jacket liner and pants plus a dual controller. The stuff works amazing and keeps you in a warm cocoon. I rarely even use the pants as the Bilt armored over-pant with quilted liner is typically good enough. But I do have them just in case. This gear keeps me riding into the 20s as long as the roads are clear. Recently the right glove stopped heating, and Gerbing repaired and sent back to me. Great customer service. Highly recommend.
I could definitely make use of most these pieces, especially as I try to ride my dirtbike year round here in Canada.
I used to ride my KLR well into the winter. Oxford heated grips are the bomb, but only go so far to keeping your grippers warm. If you want to get serious about still feeling your fingers get a set of Hippo Hands to go with your grips. With that combination I could ride all throughout the cold New England winters with no need for heated gloves. Salted roads was my enemy, not the cold.
Fortunately I moved overseas to the Tropics and dont have to deal with winter riding again so I am looking forward to the eventual "How to stay cool in hot weather" video.
I got some $90 battery powered moto gloves on Amazon, total game changer! They work great for half the cost of a more established brand
the price premium on some manufacturers and gloves is the guarantee that your gloves are indeed motor=protective in the unfortunate case of a crash or slide ...
Me and a buddy have had good luck with the bike master brand heated grips. They’re about $50 but don’t have the auto shut off. He’s had them on his bike for many years and I’ve not had any issues with mine over the years. I’ve paired them with the dumb looking Oxford bar muffs and can ride sub 32* F without additional gloves over my riding gloves
If you're going to be riding in the rain (Scotland), keep a cople of pairs of nitrile gloves handy, put them on under your gloves and when the waterproofing inevitably starts to leak your skin stays dry. A little bit sweaty, but not all pruney and cold at least.
Also, oilskins, wear them over your most confortable gear. Way more confort than any "waterproof" trousers I've ever tried, and actually stop water getting in. And windproof.
i didn't come here for any product promo but for the storytelling and production quality, every single video is amazing on this channel!!
Can vouch for oxford heated grips, I installed many pairs over the years and never had one fail or even wear down the rubber. And this is whilst leaving the bikes parked in the street for about half the time I had them. And I sure use them to the max, I get cold hands extremely easy
Complement them with nice thick winter gloves, and it's the cheapest and easiest way to survive cold riding.
Power in motion gloves which can go under a cover layer. Lenz heated socks which are excellent. Milwaukee heated vest. I rode every month in Canada with this gear and used it for skiing and all outdoor activities during our long Canadian winters.
I'm really happy to see that there are some good dual power source options out now. I like battery, but it always seems to run out at the worst possible time and those packs can take hours to charge back up. Being able to switch over to wired power in a pinch is a game changer.
Love you folks! Always informative and entertaining. But in this case? I think it might be worth while to go across to check out the gear from those crazy folks who ride those ski and tracked contraptions in the dead of snowy winters.
I was a competitors brick and mortar store in my neck of the deck (rhymes with 'spoil contributing') and I found the snowmobile gear was less costly and better performing (helmets included -- remember they have to be approved for road use too). What's 'extreme cold' on a bike is happy-spring riding on a Snowmobile.
I was given heated grips for my XR one year, and they were everything when combined with the wind deflection from the bark busters. Maybe even made up for the total lack of windscreen
The best combo for keeping hands warm in cold weather riding is heated grips and bar muffs. As good as they are hideous. You can wear thinner gloves and have all your dexterity. The micro climate created by the muffs is unbeatable.
I live in hot climate country, still watch F9 video about heated gears. Keep up the good work!
Still the best YT channel out here. Thumbs up from France✌
I've been riding since the 80's. I do have heated grips, which are nice and would have been great in my youth. I would ride in all weather's back then. These days, being a fair weather fairy suits me fine. My car has both superb heating, cold AC and good working wipers.
Great info on what wonderful tech is around these days
At the moment I’m using Oxford heated grips with bar mitts. Keeps the wind chill and rain off and I only need the lowest setting. At -2c I go one setting up. We’ll see if it gets cold enough to break out my heated gloves.
Also using a heated jacket, which is great and goes underneath my textile jacket. Plugs into the bike with a controller. Also has cables in the sleeves to connect the gloves.
The heated gloves I have (Gerbing) were constructed flat rather than curved. Not only does this fatigue your fingers as you have to fight them to grip the bars, but it also means you get hot spots on your knuckles, so I wear silk line gloves underneath for protection.
If I’m not using the bar mitts with heated grips, heated gloves are the best option! I’d like to try a newer gloves and/or different brands though. I’ve had these for about 7 years.
Heated helmet visors are absolutely way the to go! Great in the cold and in the rain. My commute often goes through freezing fog and the heated visor allows me to see with no problem at all. Huge game changer!
Very big yes to heated gloves. They are life changing for winter riders.
I live in the mountains of Mongolia and try to ride all Winter. It's a similar climate to Yellowknife, NT, Canada just for reference. So I'm general doing my off-road/off-trail riding in snow and ice in about -25 to -30C (-20F). I just ride for fun and not high speeds and the duration is about 1 hour at the most.
I've kitted out my Surron Ultra Bee with Oxford Hot Grip Wraps. They are removable velcro attached wraps. These are insanely hot on high (80C) and still hot on low (55C). Then I wear heated glove liners (7.4v) so I can chose any glove (size up). Also heated socks (7.4v).
That's it for heated stuff. I don't want to be wired to the bike because in snow, I fall off quite a lot. So batteries that are carried are essential. 7.4v is a bit weak but does the job since I also have the heated grips and Oxford handlebar muffs. Like Hippo hands but for 1/3 the price.
The weak link is my helmet visor or goggles. I can't stop them frosting up after about an hour and I can't justify $300 for a heated helmet or goggles. I'm still looking for a cost effective solution.
My $60 diy heated grips wore down after 2 years so now I rock a version of hippo hands.
I chose the keis heated jacket because there's nothing like getting those arms warmed. For hands, revit just put out a pair of gloves that are made to work with heated grips (fusion 3 GTX), meaning less insulation on the palm and ... they actually work. And for those pesky toes, some cheap chemical heat pads work a treat, with some good wool socks. Now if I can only do something about the helmets' shield, on a cold foggy day, the pinlock is not enough.
Heated grips and bar muffs are a solution, the muffs keep the wind chill and most of the wet/cold off letting the grips keep the hands warm.
I have the Oxford heated grips. I love them because they are always there, you cant exactly forget to bring them. And yes, 100% is way too hot to ever use, but somehow thats always very reassuring.
Good god I would have hoped that by now Oxford would have upgraded the look of those heated grip controls. That looks like it is from the 70's.
They are awful. Koso do the same job but without the clunky rubber bit and without that dreadful separate controller.
On the oxford website you can find new grips with integrated controls but they are more pricey
I rode a electric “bicycle” in Beijing through the two past winters, and heated grips are what kept me a year round rider. The heated gloves I tried were too bulky in the wrist with the battery, and sometimes wouldn’t last the full way.
I had hardwired Gerbing glove and jacket liners when I was a year round rider in Toronto. Would recommend against glove liners, they never got warm enough and it's hard to fit them under properly sized gloves. I'd opt for battery powered unless you're really in to winter road trips, the cables get annoying quickly. Waiting for a good battery heated onesie underlayer for winter motorcycle and hunting.
Oxford heated grips get a bit hotter but the Koso Apollo Grips are much less ugly the button is integrated rather than having that giant control box.
Commuting on foggy visor days, I used to tape a fat bendy straw cut to size to the inside of my chin guard with the end hanging below the helmet, and breathe out through that when necessary (traffic lights etc). Low tech, effective, practically free, and keeps the carbon dioxide level inside the helmet down too. There's probably a similar but better version you could knock up with some rubber tubing or something - I was too lazy.
Gave up heated grips years ago , I use heated gloves with batteries in cuff , on top temperature last 3 hours and hat all of hand , full gets the lot , not just your palms not like grips
For wind chill use a decent set and f hand Gaurds which cover all of wind flow and rain egress . Best bit gloves , they can be moved between bikes . Oh did I say i always carry a spare set of batteries for the gloves 😊😊🤣🤣
Hang in there, 44! In the meantime, 45 has got you covered! With a heated vest, apparently... Anyway, nice vid, though I can't really see myself going out for cold rides---at least, not at my current level of riding skill. Maybe next year.
Milwaukee heated jacket. Best purchase I have ever made for heated gear. Wear an insulating layer over it and can ride in sub freezing temps easy.
I've been running heated gear for the past few years now. I will never go back to not having heated gear. I ride in 25 degree weather in the winter and I'm always comfortable.
Another fine Public Service film. Oxford also produce Hot Hands which are over grips. They are either on or off, very simple to fit and get tres chaud. Combined with some cheap handlebar muffs I can just about ride with summer gloves in the UK winter. Cheers.
Might have to try those heated gloves when I decide to ride outside of the hot af hell pit that is Florida. It only gets cold enough to really require anything more than liners or thermal long John's like 2 days a year but as I said, when I move I'll need better gear
Oxford heated grips are amazing, I've worn though at least 3 sets. I ride 5 days a week here in Oz, and on the cold days they are amazing.
“ Once you have it, life sucks without it.”, words of wisdom. Nice video!
I actually bought that Mobile warming vest last year. While it's greet on the bike with the 12v hookup, it should be noted the battery sucks. There's no good place to put it, and the connector cable is tucked away in it's own little pocket, to small to fit any kind of a battery. I personally wouldn't recommend if you plan on using the battery at all.
I've got good winter gloves and a set of heated grips. This usually keeps me warm for my winter rides at down to -5°C - also those are usually shorter than 1h. Also i noticed that big handguards keep a lot of cold wind off your gloves at higher speeds and help additionally.
Those oxford grips are amazing. I had to buy a 2nd pair because my dog ate though my controller wires, so even paying double the price they are great value.
I've been switching the heating grips between bikes for years now with 0 problems.
I had under pads for a while, and they which were only ok, but they burnt themselves out or something, getting suddenly stupid hot, then never turned on again after like 4 months.
Adding heated grips to my previous CRF250L, to get the left grip to heat better, I acquired another right grip, wrapped the bar with a thin, self-adhesive cork sheet, and a wrap of packing tape to assist getting the grip on, and used an air compressor to get the grip slipped over. Heated just as well as the right grip with the plastic throttle tube.
Heated grips are a must for me now, I bought just the basic Oxfords to put on my 125 since it's cold in Scotland basically 9 months of the year. Total game changer, and I'm still riding now in the middle of December with just a couple of extra layers, heated grips and LS2 summer gloves.
Heated gloves are considerably more expensive, but also far better than grips.
Plus you get a water resistant membrane with most options.
The gripe I have with my Gerbing gloves (cost aside) is that the supplied motorcycle battery cable is too short to be of any use.
I suspect they're trying to flog you a pair of additional battery packs that can be stowed in zipped pockets in the glove sleeves.
But since I'm too cheap for that I sourced an SAE to DC extension to fit to my existing battery charger hook up.
I had a Widder heated vest for many years and it saved my ass numerous times. I tended to get cold in the shoulder area so I got a Gerbing jacket liner that has heat all the way down the sleeves. I have some heated gloves also but the liner seems to do a good job with a decent pair of winter gloves. My Concours has heated grips which are nice but the liner keeps me warm enough.
Mobile Warming as a company utilized me and my work for their advertising imagery in 2016; they never paid and denied the use. I was a younger photographer at the time so I didn't have any idea about contracts or licensing-- but ever since then I've never purchased or bought from their company since.
Just had a money saving tip , as I’m an oldie I’ve bought my like wise relatives a long hot water bottle 80cms , it’s not very wide and flat even when filled , it comes with straps so you can wear it to keep your core warm , best of all it’s not very expensive. I reckon you could wear it under your expensive winter jacket to keep you Toasty, and save a fortune on electrical wizardry 👍👍👍😊😊
I tried a heated vest once. The vest alone kept me warm. I tried the heating feature, but it wasn't really necessary or even desired. Get your grandmother to knit you a wool vest.
I have a pair of heated gloves, or at least I had a pair. The gloves quit working after a few years. I found that one, and then the other, battery quit requiring a charge. The gloves themselves had quit working. This illustrates one of the problems with heated gear: heated gear fails, so you still have to carry the same insulating layers you did when you didn't have heated gear. My solution was a pair of three-finger, or lobster gloves. Not the shooting mittens that separate the index finger from the rest, though some people might prefer those. The three-finger gloves are shockingly warm, and they still allow me to use two fingers on my brake lever. Use a CrampBuster so you don't have to grip the throttle with you weakest fingers.
Another added mention is makita or milwaukee heated vests or jackets. You may already have batteries that power these fairly affordable pieces of gear and they work great when worn under another layer.
if your hands and feet are cold, it is a sign your chest area is cold. the body reduces blood flow to the hands and feet (and tip of your nose) to keep warm blood near the organs. if your hands are cold, but on another sweater.
if you get too warm, vent the heat out of your hands and not buy opening your jacket.
Heated grips are a must. It's my second winter without them, and I've got to get them on this bike. If the manufacturer ones STILL aren't in, I'm getting Oxford ones for sure.
And after my last experience on winter rides, where my hands got so cold I could barely operate the clutch, I'm going to try heated gloves. RST ones get the best reviews on my site of choice, and I know the brand fits my freaky spider-fingers.
Heated insoles are a neat idea, but I've got merino wool socks instead. Paired with thick work socks underneath, there's no pocket of cold air in my gore-tex boots to get colder. My socked feet just sort of fill the boots up like jelly in a mould.
Core temperature isn't an issue for me. My new winter jacket is insulated and windproof (mostly), so as long as I eat something before I ride, I'm fine. I just need to have a hot chocolate and a snack halfway through the ride, but what's a ride without a cafe break anyway? And it's not like I can't stand to burn a few kilos of padding and insulation to stay warm.
Love your vids. I bought 120€ heated china gloves from amazon last year and those let me ride (with 5 layers) in -5°C on the motorway at 130km/h. Those are the only heated things i have. Everything else is layers.
Heated grips on the ATV was world changing for me. Now I'm doing heated wheels on all the SxS's too
I had heated grips installed on my CRF 300 Rally before i would take delivery, of course it was winter time and i had a 30 minute ride back home although i do some cold weather riding on occasion and it allows me to wear a less insulated glove as well depending on how frigid the weather is of course!
I just got the full Macna heated kit: jacket, pants, socks, gloves. All connected to each other and the battery. remote controlled by a single app, where you can adjust everything individually, or group items together (e.g. left and right sock). I like that bit of simplicity in a full kit. Not sure if it's available in CAN USA tho.