Land Cruiser vs Land Rover! Hitting The Colorado Trails With Two Iconic Off-Roaders

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
  • We take a 2021 Toyota Land Cruiser Heritage Edition and put it up against a 2020 Land Rover Defender 110 SE P400 on some of the best trails around the front range of Colorado.
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  • @BODDA912
    @BODDA912 3 года назад +923

    *he actually brought the toyota in case the Land Rover breaks down*

    • @kennethrodriguez5183
      @kennethrodriguez5183 3 года назад +21

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @paseksuana
      @paseksuana 3 года назад +8

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @questurewest7494
      @questurewest7494 3 года назад +3

      Thank You

    • @andywells397
      @andywells397 3 года назад +28

      I did as well..in the uk land rover products are things to avoid.

    • @MrGolferjoseph
      @MrGolferjoseph 3 года назад +40

      I’m a land cruiser fan and bought my first Land Rover a few weeks ago and love it, don’t see what all the hate is about

  • @0farmerjohn0
    @0farmerjohn0 3 года назад +254

    There is a 4X4 playground close to where I live. They have a Land Cruiser on standby to rescue those Land Rovers and Jeeps 🤣 They also have a hilux to carry extra tools 🤣

  • @ldv5831
    @ldv5831 3 года назад +323

    Love the video, not a fan of the music, just leave the it out, most viewers are quite happy hearing the rigs go through its paces

    • @djsconsulting
      @djsconsulting 3 года назад +12

      I was about to make exactly the same comment. A great video BUT I almost stopped watching as the music was extremely annoying. Watch TFL Offroad - MUSIC IS NOT REQUIRED !

    • @richfarfugnuven6308
      @richfarfugnuven6308 3 года назад +8

      100%. Terrible music

    • @imsuzukiking
      @imsuzukiking 3 года назад +6

      Hahahaha I was gonna say the same thing! I thought that the whole time.

    • @tclg1
      @tclg1 3 года назад +6

      Agreed

    • @fitzgoblin81
      @fitzgoblin81 3 года назад +8

      Great Video - no music please. It's not great and it does not add anything to the quality of the video.

  • @E39M5SPEED
    @E39M5SPEED 3 года назад +290

    Missing the most important part. After 300k miles LC will still be on the road. And after 40k miles Defender will break down.

    • @tjnptel1
      @tjnptel1 3 года назад +42

      @@austin0795 you missed the point..

    • @jeff1595
      @jeff1595 3 года назад +10

      @@tjnptel1 but the land criuser is like 800 years old and all the problems are sorted and of course they will be Alot more problems on the defender its on its first years and they will be Alot of problems but move to the fill size which is the actual competitor of this it will have Alot less problems and will last longer. I've seen Alot of discos and defenders going through to 10, 20,30 years still going strong I also don't see you buying an 80k+ car and keeping it the Toyota is something that should be cheap and innovated but they're expensive and with tech from the 90s they are only reliable that's it it's seems Toyota is losing its lead in sales and won't be here for long especially with these 80k cars land rover Mercedes bmw audi porsche jaguar are all destroying the land criuser sale numbers

    • @codeninja1823
      @codeninja1823 3 года назад +22

      @@jeff1595 yes there are alot of land rovers that reach 300 000Km, but you have to spend alot of money on repairs it while the land cruiser can last way above 500 000Km with some minor repairs
      (my brother owns a 1996 land rover defender with 200 000Km and he spent more than $20 000 on repairs while 2008 land cruiser with 180 000 i own only had $3000 in repairs)

    • @nekogaming8461
      @nekogaming8461 3 года назад +13

      @@jeff1595 I suggest you a mercedes mini van LOL bcz u don't seem to know why the Land Cruiser was built...it was built for off-roading not for those fancy features. And it has all the features for offroad

    • @agt155
      @agt155 3 года назад +11

      Landrover reliability has increased massively since they dropped all the BMW junk.

  • @drakedrake8405
    @drakedrake8405 3 года назад +125

    Love the Toyota Land Cruiser

    • @mahirvlogs5550
      @mahirvlogs5550 2 года назад +2

      Love my defender after 50k miles
      No issues

    • @mahirvlogs5550
      @mahirvlogs5550 Год назад

      @@tomaskroupakkfoto4132 done 87k miles on it
      Love it 🥰

    • @raghavshankara5601
      @raghavshankara5601 Год назад

      @@tomaskroupakkfoto4132
      LR owners doesn't keep the vehicle that long as 300k etc...

    • @mahirvlogs5550
      @mahirvlogs5550 Год назад

      Had a big trip and finally covered 100k miles 😍🥰🥰🥰

    • @mahirvlogs5550
      @mahirvlogs5550 Год назад +1

      It's the best car i have ever owned

  • @iantownsend751
    @iantownsend751 3 года назад +6

    I live in the UK but have spent a lot of time in Southern Africa where most people I know who go seriously off road choose a Toyota on the basis of reliability rather than absolute off-road performance.
    I have owned three Land Rover Discoveries from new over the last thirty years. The first had a major engine problem after three years. The second ran virtually trouble free for almost twenty years and 200,000 miles, but had terrible paint quality/galvanic corrosion that Land Rover would not address under warranty. My current Discovery 4 has only done 16000 miles, but recently had a complete electronic black out. You would not want that to happen in the middle of the Kalahari. My son's 2018 Discovery Sport had a similar "control system fault" at the same time.
    Despite these issues, the Discovery is great to drive on and off road in the UK and meets my needs for seating capacity, load carrying, towing and comfort better than the Toyota. It will never be too far from support if/when it breaks down. If I was in Southern Africa or other remote areas I would choose a Toyota every time.

  • @luisalvaradokirste7529
    @luisalvaradokirste7529 3 года назад +332

    I'd take the Toyota any day of the week. Can't beat that reliability.

    • @yananRamirez
      @yananRamirez 3 года назад +15

      I use my Land Cruiser HJ45 1980 and still drives where Jeeps got stuck..jjajaja.

    • @ChristopherWhite-yg4hh
      @ChristopherWhite-yg4hh 3 года назад +13

      Toyota's are for the week city dads that can't fix cars.
      Toyota's are for the boring

    • @yananRamirez
      @yananRamirez 3 года назад

      @@ChristopherWhite-yg4hh yeah xD this also happens l.o.l

    • @poonamdewangan7879
      @poonamdewangan7879 3 года назад +15

      Toyota is the king of reliability

    • @aimxdy8680
      @aimxdy8680 3 года назад +9

      @@ChristopherWhite-yg4hh I fix and check my cars a lot aka my Mustang and corvette, I also like saving money so I bought a used Toyota camry.

  • @DivjyotAhuja
    @DivjyotAhuja 3 года назад +216

    Him: Defender is the king
    Also Him: I don't want to stand behind it in case it slips

  • @ganaarc
    @ganaarc 3 года назад +38

    I own 2013 LC200, I don't need cool off road electronic stuffs, I believe in land cruiser fully loaded with 5 person and bashing in the middle of nowhere without any issue more than 6 years! I think LR cannot!

    • @johnpaulonyeama9931
      @johnpaulonyeama9931 3 года назад

      Well it well can pls be reasonable

    • @acemandave7726
      @acemandave7726 2 года назад

      @@johnpaulonyeama9931 independent suspension pile of ass can do it? Nahhh maybe the older defender can.

  • @hszsts
    @hszsts 3 года назад +5

    I sell land rovers for a living…the hardest part of my job is apologising to customers who just spent £80k an their car broke down a week later . Lovely.

    • @jerryparker4484
      @jerryparker4484 2 года назад +1

      And today on “things that never happened….”

  • @michaelevans691
    @michaelevans691 3 года назад +151

    The heritage LC does NOT have extra skid plates. All LandCruisers have four plates from the factory.

    • @anya3027
      @anya3027 3 года назад +4

      the factory skid plates are not great.

    • @GutoFontana
      @GutoFontana 3 года назад

      @@anya3027 the aren't go for ARB skid plate set.

    • @anya3027
      @anya3027 3 года назад +1

      @@GutoFontana sorry, i didnt understand... ?

    • @mahirvlogs5550
      @mahirvlogs5550 2 года назад

      Right

  • @midamos4711
    @midamos4711 3 года назад +98

    Land Cruiser went through tough ways while Defeder driver keep complaining how slow is LC trunk and crwl control.

    • @OutofSpecReviews
      @OutofSpecReviews  3 года назад +11

      Fantastic summary 💯

    • @midamos4711
      @midamos4711 3 года назад +3

      @@OutofSpecReviews call me if you need me

    • @DVAMEKAGK
      @DVAMEKAGK 3 года назад +7

      Also the amount of shit you have to engage in the defender before you start, sounds like stuff that will break while daily driving! 😂

    • @TheFlyingClutchman
      @TheFlyingClutchman Год назад +1

      @@DVAMEKAGK you can put the defender in auto and let it do everything lmao

    • @DVAMEKAGK
      @DVAMEKAGK Год назад +1

      @@TheFlyingClutchman and then watch it punish you for using it with a $15,000 repair bill 😉😘

  • @dibinrajs.v914
    @dibinrajs.v914 3 года назад +107

    We can go into any forest in any vehicle we want. But to come back you need a Land Cruiser.

    • @RC-ei8jb
      @RC-ei8jb 3 года назад +11

      Hahahahaha it’s not the 90’s anymore. LR dominates

    • @nb2786
      @nb2786 3 года назад +7

      Bullshit, in Indonesia with mostly 40 degree celcius in the midday, i used to go offroading in the forest with my 17' Range Rover, and came back safely lol

    • @eibarman-5750
      @eibarman-5750 3 года назад +10

      @@RC-ei8jb yep, it does dominates in mechanics visit

    • @DraigPvPvE
      @DraigPvPvE 3 года назад +2

      I choose LC for the body on frame chassis 😎

    • @supramk515
      @supramk515 3 года назад

      @@nb2786 Bro its a joke, -_-

  • @Chris-sq8yv
    @Chris-sq8yv 3 года назад +102

    Always compare to Land Cruisers, just in case the Defender breaks down the Land Cruiser is there to bring you home...

    • @BoskiM
      @BoskiM 3 года назад +10

      That's the old defenders the newer ones have better quality and last longer. Even the cruisers break down

    • @TheBlueVaron
      @TheBlueVaron 3 года назад +16

      @@BoskiM These idiots thinks that land cruiser is indestructible or something

    • @Chris-sq8yv
      @Chris-sq8yv 3 года назад +13

      @@TheBlueVaron Thanks for the compliment, they not indestructible but it takes a heck of a lot more to destroy them than it would take to trash a Land Rover, btw I own a classic Range Rover Vogue...

    • @geoff9480
      @geoff9480 3 года назад +1

      @@TheBlueVaron I mean they are

    • @eibarman-5750
      @eibarman-5750 3 года назад +4

      @@TheBlueVaron RR trash

  • @mk14617
    @mk14617 3 года назад +50

    If I could choose which one to have as a press vehicle, it's the Defender hands down. But if I was going to shell out my own money, buy the vehicle, and keep it for 15 years, it's the Land Cruiser. No contest.

    • @trianggaindralukmana2184
      @trianggaindralukmana2184 Год назад +3

      Defender for light off road camping and safari
      Land cruiser for work especially geologist and rural medic

    • @fib4923
      @fib4923 Год назад

      Defender for the mall ride. Landcruiser for anything serious and offroad

    • @caco8328
      @caco8328 3 месяца назад

      if I win a Land Rover, I sell it and buy a Land Cruiser

  • @edwardpeters4700
    @edwardpeters4700 3 года назад +31

    A tie? I'd take a 10 year old 200 series for less than 1/2 the price of the new Defender any day of the week! The answer is definitely a lightly used Land Cruiser.

    • @brianfeely902
      @brianfeely902 3 года назад +1

      Well done. You've just compared a 10 year old second hand vehicle to a brand new car and called yourself master of the universe. Make sure your nurse gives you an extra glass of OJ today to celebrate.

    • @edwardpeters4700
      @edwardpeters4700 3 года назад

      @@brianfeely902 The reference is with respect to value for dollar. It's not a direct comparison.

    • @brianfeely902
      @brianfeely902 3 года назад

      ​@@edwardpeters4700 So you are admiting that it's not relavant to this particular discussion?

    • @edwardpeters4700
      @edwardpeters4700 3 года назад +1

      @@brianfeely902 actually it's directly relevant. Expected reliability of the Defender is so poor many of us would prefer a 10 year old 200 series.

    • @eibarman-5750
      @eibarman-5750 3 года назад +2

      @@brianfeely902 when a second hand 2010 car has better reliability, repair, and maintenance expenses than brand new car that cost double, not picking it would be a sin

  • @NKPGarage
    @NKPGarage 2 года назад +3

    The Land Cruiser, all day long. No question about it!

  • @gsdlvr123
    @gsdlvr123 3 года назад +126

    I've had both...Both brands are indeed legendary...one for reliability and dependability and the other for NOT so...

    • @ManojkumarYadav-ix5dy
      @ManojkumarYadav-ix5dy Год назад +3

      This joke is for old Land Rovers...New land Rovers are Better in their segment

  • @maxt5034
    @maxt5034 2 года назад +5

    Personally, I would buy a used 80 Series LC and Spend the difference restoring the beast!!!

  • @nicktaylor7680
    @nicktaylor7680 3 года назад +23

    In 10 years the Land rover will need 20000 in repairs and be crushed while the Land cruiser will have another 10 years reliability ahead of it

    • @jeff1595
      @jeff1595 3 года назад +3

      In 1p years land rover will still be going strong and Toyota in 20 years will not be a brand considering how bad they're cars are now and how bad the value is 🤢🤢

    • @modelrailwaynoob
      @modelrailwaynoob 2 года назад +1

      You don’t know much about Defenders. Most since day one are still around and not crushed as you incorrectly asserted. I owned a disco and drove defenders in the army and never saw one break down. You must mix with idiots.

    • @portland573
      @portland573 2 года назад

      Or b, maintain it well and have no issues.

    • @jerryparker4484
      @jerryparker4484 2 года назад +1

      Over 70% of Land Rover Defenders made are still being driven. That’s the same number as Porsche and a number far higher than Toyota could dream of. Land Rovers will take you into battle. Toyotas take soccer moms to coffee.

  • @mattyolo
    @mattyolo 3 года назад +43

    In 15yrs the Landrover will be recycled into a bed pan and the Landcruiser will still be climbing mountains 😂

    • @jeff1595
      @jeff1595 3 года назад +3

      The land criuser will just be sat there collecting dust cause no one wants an old land criuser for 40k lol

    • @berennicholas5003
      @berennicholas5003 3 года назад +1

      My series 2 defender: am I a joke to u?

    • @mattyolo
      @mattyolo 3 года назад

      @@berennicholas5003 you and I both know the new defender will not last as long as the older models. It’s life span will more of a Discovery 4. +- 120,000km

    • @berennicholas5003
      @berennicholas5003 3 года назад

      @@mattyolo as much as I hate to agree
      It's still an agreement

    • @greyhoundanglickychrt5537
      @greyhoundanglickychrt5537 2 года назад

      @@jeff1595 I do, because I know that it won't fall apart when I drive it to the moon and back.

  • @LandCruisin
    @LandCruisin 3 года назад +91

    Yes the 200 series is old school and lacking technology, but that's exactly how I like it. And the best part about the Cruiser is that I won't have to see the check engine light for a very long time unlike Defender owners. lol But jokes aside, the Defender is a good looking and capable vehicle but its geared towards a completely different type of person than a Land Cruiser.

    • @mahirvlogs5550
      @mahirvlogs5550 2 года назад +5

      As a owner of 3 land rovers i want to say that I never faced any issues with them
      They are way better than my friends land cruiser

    • @emmanuelmeysman820
      @emmanuelmeysman820 Год назад

      @@mahirvlogs5550 I think it depends more on the care of the car . Those cars are always reliable .

  • @DocBassam
    @DocBassam 3 года назад +60

    Defender is good, but I’m sure that land cruiser is excellent ( look at the land cruiser guy confidence)

    • @ariesfires1
      @ariesfires1 3 года назад +3

      Exactly, and also the insecurity of the LR guy

  • @andyham6094
    @andyham6094 3 года назад +30

    Land cruiser all day everyday. I wouldn’t even do a straight swap of my 4runner and the defender. Just not a fan of land rovers for obvious reasons.

  • @riyadhalghamdi6465
    @riyadhalghamdi6465 3 года назад +51

    A wise man once said “if you want to go deep into the desert get a Land Rover, if want to go deep into the desert and come back get a land cruiser”

    • @darkside8727
      @darkside8727 3 года назад +2

      -tsun zu

    • @arkos55
      @arkos55 3 года назад +10

      An even wiser man said get a new joke

    • @makinaedgar4057
      @makinaedgar4057 2 года назад

      @@arkos55 and another wise man said old is gold😂

    • @jerryparker4484
      @jerryparker4484 2 года назад +2

      Boooooooooooring. Land Cruiser owners are so dull and grey.

    • @ronaldrrootiii6040
      @ronaldrrootiii6040 10 месяцев назад

      That's funny I have a 20 year old Land Rover what's solid axles and traction control on 33s and it takes me everywhere hundreds of miles all the time non-stop constantly

  • @croaker4747
    @croaker4747 3 года назад +18

    I shopped both of these trucks. I went with the LC HE. All the trick electronic crap on the Defender will go bad, and once the warranty runs out you are screwed. The LC is just a much better truck overall.
    I do agree that the tail gate is slow as hell. The cool thing is that you can turn off and open it manually.
    I did have rock sliders and rear suspension guards put on though.

    • @codeninja1823
      @codeninja1823 3 года назад +3

      @Aquatic Ape congrats, you brought a car thats gonna live longer than you

  • @amareworku840
    @amareworku840 3 года назад +25

    Reliability Japanese car you can't get wrong solid car. If you look after it, will give you life time service that for sure.

  • @aliy0182
    @aliy0182 3 года назад +20

    Land cruiser All the way !!!!! Show me a Land Rover that last/live half of what the land cruiser can last/live with no issues !!! Land cruiser is built like a tank and it out last everything and it can beat anything on earth when it comes to off roading !!!!

    • @piemar97
      @piemar97 3 года назад +1

      except the jeep wrangler

    • @richfarfugnuven6308
      @richfarfugnuven6308 3 года назад +3

      Land Cruiser is awesome and it's very reliable, but it's not in my top 5 most capable offroad, not even top 10.

    • @isaaclopez5004
      @isaaclopez5004 3 года назад +2

      @@piemar97 the fact that third world countries, and the people that explore the outback drive land cruiser should tell you that wrangle are not reliable enough for those conditions

    • @piemar97
      @piemar97 3 года назад +1

      @@isaaclopez5004 Third world countries don't have the money to get a Jeep Wrangler my friend, hence they go for Toyotas. But of course nothing compares to Toyota when it comes to reliability

    • @timber543
      @timber543 3 года назад +5

      @@piemar97 have you looked at the cost of a ladncruiser compared to a jeep wrangler?? That LC is a $100k the 70 series line up which is more comparable to the wrangler in oz starts at around $80k. Cost has nothing to do with why jeeps aren't seen in third world countries and yotas are everywhere. Jeeps are poorly made and the only people dumb enough to by them live in the good ol' usa

  • @ktpinnacle
    @ktpinnacle 3 года назад +33

    Reliability is great, but I can't pay 2020 bucks for 2010 tech.

    • @jeff1595
      @jeff1595 3 года назад +7

      True dat Toyota is falling behind

    • @fahdabdulaziz5067
      @fahdabdulaziz5067 3 года назад +2

      You are a smart man. Unfortunately most people are sheeps

    • @johnbillings2283
      @johnbillings2283 3 года назад +1

      That's the conclusion I came to as well- debating between these(ish) two cars. Got a 2017 discovery and I love it. Can't fault the yota for those who want it, but I love that if my wife wants to do a road trip, she'll pick the comfort of a disco and I didn't have to leave behind the capable rig at home

    • @ktpinnacle
      @ktpinnacle 3 года назад

      @@johnbillings2283 Bought new? Any issues with the the dreaded reliability monster?

    • @johnbillings2283
      @johnbillings2283 3 года назад +4

      @@ktpinnacle bought used, 2017 (off lease). No issues yet, though I admit fear did get to me a bit so I got an extended warranty to take me 5 more years 100k miles.

  • @eyalschnider
    @eyalschnider 3 года назад +11

    land cruiser is a beast you can always trust,land rover very good on you tube but what about reality?

    • @jerryparker4484
      @jerryparker4484 2 года назад

      Better. It is why special forces around the world (US Army Rangers/SAS/SASR/Carabinieri/GROM) all use Land Rover. Who used Land Cruiser? Islamic Terrorists…..

  • @IanBrewster
    @IanBrewster 3 года назад +15

    The defender seems way more capable off road as stock and a looks a lot nicer, loving the land cruiser tho it’s an awesome car too

    • @michaelbautista5803
      @michaelbautista5803 3 года назад +4

      Defender looks like it was designed by a kid...Landcruiser has a classic design.

    • @jeff1595
      @jeff1595 3 года назад +2

      @@michaelbautista5803 land criuser looks ugly af defender looks cool

    • @michaelbautista5803
      @michaelbautista5803 3 года назад +2

      @@jeff1595 defenders looks like it was designed by a 5year old. Landcruisers have classic designs

    • @jaimeduncan6167
      @jaimeduncan6167 5 месяцев назад

      @@michaelbautista5803 and everybody is copying it including Toyota. Suffer haters suffer 😂

    • @michaelbautista5803
      @michaelbautista5803 5 месяцев назад

      @@jaimeduncan6167 Landcruisers copy Landcruisers and improves it. Defenders does the opposite making them fragile af 😂🤣😂🤣

  • @cncmne7404
    @cncmne7404 3 года назад +16

    Like Richard Hammond said : That is a very good Discovery , but it is not a Defender.

  • @theshadypilot
    @theshadypilot 3 года назад +44

    You missed a trick! At 13:40, if you lower, yes, LOWER the suspension, it will touch the rock and pop it into “extended” mode. This is more than an inch higher than “offroad” height that you were in. Would have then been able to clear that obstacle.
    Oh, and while it’s in extended mode you can press the raise suspension button with a foot on the brake and it goes into “hyper extension” mode which adds a ton more clearance. But im not a fan of that setting as there is no longer any give for ride comfort. But it’s cool to see it standing on stilts!

    • @brianfeely902
      @brianfeely902 3 года назад +1

      I've done this quite a few times, espectially on deep rutted tracks where the engine and trans trays are starting to drag and loose traction.

    • @theshadypilot
      @theshadypilot 3 года назад

      @@brianfeely902 I've been doing it lately too. Wow, it stands up high! I put a ream of A4 paper standing up vertically in my driveway and drove clean over it! That's in excess of 300mm! What I'm trying to ascertain now, is what are the conditions that make it automatically go back down again...

    • @brianfeely902
      @brianfeely902 3 года назад +2

      @@theshadypilot Once you drive over 3 mph or after 5 seconds or something along those lines, it should go back to normal. It's basically designed to be a "get me out of this specific shit" feature, and then go back to normal operation.

    • @jcdentonunatco
      @jcdentonunatco 3 года назад

      @@brianfeely902 yep, and whats cool is thats not even a new feature. My range rover from 1998 had it!

    • @mahirvlogs5550
      @mahirvlogs5550 2 года назад

      Exactly
      Finally someone knows it
      Actually it can go upto 334mm
      Which is much much more than competition

  • @hege750
    @hege750 3 года назад +27

    You need to wiggle the rear door a little bit and it locks in place.

    • @Chopperbob56
      @Chopperbob56 3 года назад +3

      Yes, just grab the inside door grip and give it a slight wiggle ! Brilliant

    • @lawrencemiles2991
      @lawrencemiles2991 3 года назад

      haha to funny

  • @DailyGrindAus
    @DailyGrindAus 3 года назад +54

    Great vid - Landrover and Landcruisers are legends. In Australia, there are plenty of very high mileage Landrovers, as they continued to be sold here after they exited the US market. I had an 80 series Landcruiser for a while. Both vehicles are very capable.

    • @harrywalker5836
      @harrywalker5836 2 года назад +2

      should of kept the 80..last decent toyota built..i said decent,, not brilliant..nissan was better..

    • @DailyGrindAus
      @DailyGrindAus 2 года назад +1

      @@harrywalker5836 Divorce and becoming a single father of 3 boys meant I couldn't keep it..

    • @Spartansrule118
      @Spartansrule118 Год назад

      @@DailyGrindAus hope you're doing better now

    • @DailyGrindAus
      @DailyGrindAus Год назад

      @@Spartansrule118 Thanks - that was 15 years or so ago, so things are good now.

  • @modulonatic
    @modulonatic 3 года назад +12

    Music, drone shots and filming in general is totally fire 🔥 Thanks to Kyle and the crew for this informative video!

  • @marlonm396
    @marlonm396 3 года назад +7

    I doubt this Land Rover will last 300K miles, but if it does it will be worth $1.00 because it will be falling apart. Land Cruiser always.

    • @DrivenHard
      @DrivenHard 3 года назад

      Why would anyone keep a modern luxury vehicle for that long???

  • @RandomUserX99
    @RandomUserX99 3 года назад +16

    yeah if I'm going long term overlanding I'll get the LC since I do want to make it back to civilization w/o breaking down.

  • @pennsyltuckyden9823
    @pennsyltuckyden9823 Год назад +2

    No question that Land Rover is a beauty, just has to prove its reliability. They may seem expensive but don't forget a well-equipped Rubicon is 70k or more.

  • @IncisalArt
    @IncisalArt Год назад +7

    I have just turned 54,000 miles on my P400. I am a wildlife photographer and I have given this thing pure hell and it has been flawless.Great video, one point missed , the rear door does lock into place by simply squeezing the handle .

    • @CantPickTheNameIwant
      @CantPickTheNameIwant 8 месяцев назад

      54k miles is nothing

    • @IncisalArt
      @IncisalArt 8 месяцев назад

      Well it’s 65,000 now . Amazing 65,000 miles . I’ll keep ya updated.

  • @tareqmarhoun993
    @tareqmarhoun993 3 года назад +15

    Its seems the land cruiser chooses most tough terrain

  • @mrlord8657
    @mrlord8657 3 года назад +49

    Land Cruiser are made to tow the other brands to the mechanics.

    • @edwardvalivonis23
      @edwardvalivonis23 3 года назад +1

      And other mechanics are made to tow Land Cruiser 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @vishnumurali
      @vishnumurali 3 года назад +1

      @@edwardvalivonis23 achooda pavam, valicha comedy

    • @biz235
      @biz235 3 года назад

      @@vishnumurali he he😝✌🏻🔥🔥

    • @mgill1912
      @mgill1912 3 года назад

      So it’s a recovery vehicle?? Not off-roader!😂😂

    • @ChristopherWhite-yg4hh
      @ChristopherWhite-yg4hh 3 года назад +1

      Land rovers have to tow the boring land cruisers out from being stuck in mud and rocks.

  • @Carsongore
    @Carsongore 3 года назад +18

    IDK I mean I see Land Rover LR3’s weekly with over 300k miles on them and plenty of LR4’s and Range Rovers with over 200k miles on them.

    • @theldaniel170
      @theldaniel170 3 года назад +8

      My Disco 2 has 225k miles. The internet will have you believe these cars are, "unreliable" I believe is the word they use.

    • @Soh90
      @Soh90 3 года назад

      The LR4 was pretty robust towards the end of its life here in the US. They worked out most of the kinks by then. But generally speaking, the Land Cruiser is widely regarded as one of the most dependable vehicles you can buy, and the Land Rover Defender or any Land Rover/Range Rover is typically finicky products.

    • @Carsongore
      @Carsongore 3 года назад +4

      @@Soh90 L319 LR3/4 and L320 2005-2013 RRS were both very reliable vehicles. Pretty much anything that was developed under Ford ownership was pretty good. But yeah LC’s have always been reliable.

    • @Carsongore
      @Carsongore 3 года назад

      @@theldaniel170 D2’s weren’t as horrible like people say they were I mean my parent had a 02’ D2 that lasted a long time before it needed a head gaskets.

    • @johnbillings2283
      @johnbillings2283 3 года назад +2

      Excuse me sir but you must have missed the memo - when referencing a land rover in the comment section of RUclips you're only allowed to make fun of its reliability. It's preferable when making such comments that you have no firsthand experience with owning one

  • @bradchesson7712
    @bradchesson7712 3 года назад +4

    I've had 3 Toyota Prados (never owned a Land Cruiser) and 3 Landrover Discoverys (3, 4, 5). Discovery kills the Prado off road. Terrain Response is almost cheating! Never had a breakdown in the Landrovers as everyone worries about. My Discovery 4 has 250 000 Km on the clock and has been worked in the Australian outback. Still going strong. Think their reliability issues disappeared with the release of the Discovery 3. Big negative with the 5 is that there is no room under the bonnet for a second battery.

    • @AliHaider-ml4ml
      @AliHaider-ml4ml 3 года назад +1

      How much Land Rover pay you to say that

  • @MrSamrobz
    @MrSamrobz 3 года назад +30

    Went and looked at both of these cars. Land Rover wanted $115,000AUD for the standard car, Land Cruiser GXL was $100,000. Would go the Toyota without a doubt.

  • @broadsboater8946
    @broadsboater8946 3 года назад +9

    Until you mentioned it I hadn’t thought about the value difference between these two vehicles, The 200 series land cruiser is 14 years old now, with that engine dating back to 1999. It’s kind of amazing they sell for the price they do considering the technology is well known. It’s nice to see the comparison between these but I don’t think the demographics of the two owners overlap anymore, the defender is more aspirational and will sell well in cities.

    • @peterouuu
      @peterouuu 3 года назад

      this has the 5.7 3URFE. The 1998-2007 has the 4.7 2UZFE

    • @flight2k5
      @flight2k5 3 года назад

      You get what you pay for

    • @RandomUserX99
      @RandomUserX99 3 года назад +9

      .. and the LR will spend half of its life in shops lol

  • @ariscortes3066
    @ariscortes3066 3 года назад +18

    You pay 81k for an LR and out the dealers is worth 30k. The LC 20yrs later is worth 45k

    • @jeff1595
      @jeff1595 3 года назад

      What's the difference?

    • @jerryparker4484
      @jerryparker4484 2 года назад

      Which is why the last of the old Defenders actually cost more now (10 years old) than they did at the dealer. Plastic Toyota junk? Can’t give them away.

  • @richfarfugnuven6308
    @richfarfugnuven6308 3 года назад +30

    If you want to get into the backcountry, take the Defender. If you want to get home afterwards take the Land Cruiser.

  • @wallumatta1
    @wallumatta1 3 года назад +32

    Over here we say “if you want a vehicle to go to the centre of Australia get a Land Rover. If you want to get back out get a Land Cruiser”.

  • @seanteh7120
    @seanteh7120 3 года назад +9

    In the heat n harsh conditions and of the Borneo jungle n long treks where life n livelihood depends on your vehicle, japanese vehicles esp toyotas are needed. Land Rovers always look more beautiful n were plentiful in the past but when push comes to shove unfortunately reliability wins for most people here.

  • @smartman123
    @smartman123 3 года назад +4

    land cruiser is the best never let u down u have beast on your side love love the land cruiser just the way it is no craapppy extra electric gadget can break easily toyota keeps every thing solid like the way it is old school hand break body on frame very solid off reading this is the way to go

  • @spartanchirho
    @spartanchirho 3 года назад +12

    At least you guys have more cajones an actually take them on the obstacles and show them at work. TFL chickens out. Will sub.

    • @wodanowitz
      @wodanowitz 3 года назад

      TFL are suckers, they were good some years ago, today Roman and his Son Tommy are just Clowns.

    • @mikederucki
      @mikederucki 2 года назад

      Lol that’s the truth. TFL go through a gravel parking lot and call it off-roading

  • @electrikoptik
    @electrikoptik 3 года назад +26

    I'll take the one that doesn't breakdown.

    • @BoskiM
      @BoskiM 3 года назад +2

      Which SUV doesn't break down?

    • @jeff1595
      @jeff1595 3 года назад

      @@BoskiM I haven't seen a single new suv breaking down

  • @semikrazy9
    @semikrazy9 3 года назад +3

    If you want to get into the outback, get a Land Rover. If you want to get back get a Land Cruiser. My Land Cruiser has 412,000 hard miles and still going strong.

    • @ronaldrrootiii6040
      @ronaldrrootiii6040 10 месяцев назад

      Funny I hear that repeated all the time yet I'm in a 200,000 Mi Discovery Series 2 that will go hundreds of miles off-road and back on the hardest Trails ever with traction control from the year 2000 that works just as good as brand new Toyota Atrac but doesn't call it something

  • @anthonydotb
    @anthonydotb 3 года назад +10

    Who here saw those rocks and thought "those are the razor rocks"?

  • @carlbeveridge384
    @carlbeveridge384 3 года назад +5

    Those are not the optional tires on the Defender those are DuraTracs. S is the base trim not SE. You wiggle the rear door back and forth a tiny bit to make it hold in any position; not a vehicle issue just a reviewer that doesn’t know the details of the car his reviewing.

    • @theoosalyssa1158
      @theoosalyssa1158 3 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching!

    • @beaviccoon470
      @beaviccoon470 3 года назад +1

      Actually they are an option but not on the site, you have to ask your dealer to put them on if you want then. At least that's the case in the UK.

  • @tu78832
    @tu78832 3 года назад +3

    I don't wanna go and die there, so I chose land cruiser for going to and coming from a place.

  • @nantakota4190
    @nantakota4190 3 года назад +20

    Send RR to Afrika / Australia for 14 days straight to prove its value ... Lc has done it

    • @bluepaul196245
      @bluepaul196245 3 года назад +1

      Landrover was in Africa/ Australia before Toyota

    • @nantakota4190
      @nantakota4190 3 года назад +3

      @@bluepaul196245 Yes. and we replace them

    • @arkos55
      @arkos55 3 года назад +1

      Google LR Defender and Namibia press trip. So many silly comments from the Toyota fanboy club here. Ridiculous.

    • @nantakota4190
      @nantakota4190 3 года назад

      @@arkos55 U huys don't have rugged terrain, desert mostly . we had the LR back in the day but they vanish with the arrival of LC . Try the LC HZ v8 , 24V - we all love LC because of this variant/Machine.

    • @nantakota4190
      @nantakota4190 3 года назад

      @@arkos55 We are free back in my country "Mozambique" we do not please no nation, especial the ones who have colonized us. We had the damn LR but we the time we have shifted to LC because are better. If U don't be;I've it , It might help I got this info from a white man "from spain " living in Moz as a miner.

  • @tygerbright117
    @tygerbright117 3 года назад +17

    Have to say, I'm a little tired of hearing that the TFL Defender broke down, no it kept on going, it had a check engine light that know one new what the problem was, so the engineers said it needs a new engine. Granted a check engine light on a new car is not good, but I suspect it was blown out of all proportion. Also the second one they said was also broke, was broken by a mechanic at the dealership who severed a wiring harness!

    • @markovucilovski9876
      @markovucilovski9876 3 года назад +8

      They threw mud on the Defender because they lost money on having to cancel the 'To hell and back' series with the Defender. 1st one had a fault ( lots of new cars can have faults in any brand, not just JLR ), 2nd was damaged by a mechanic ( the lad didn't get the proper training because of the Covid outbreak, so all the training they received was trough Zoom or PDFs ). And all that took a long time overall ( again, COVID made it that way ). The only thing I regret about the TFL Defender that they didn't wait a bit longer to get the same spec they had on the 1st one.

    • @scandinavia6271
      @scandinavia6271 3 года назад +9

      Agree! 👍 The TFL “3-broken-Defenders” is fake news. Lets give the Defender a fair chance before bad mouthing it!

    • @LandCruisin
      @LandCruisin 3 года назад +6

      Sorry but you guys are making a whole lot of excuses for a manufacturer that already has a bad reputation for reliability. I'm honestly glad TFL had to deal with that after they talked down about their old landcruiser for being too reliable which apparently takes the passion out of owning the vehicle. I hope they enjoyed the "passion" for the new defender lol

    • @tygerbright117
      @tygerbright117 3 года назад +4

      @@LandCruisin Toyota's reputation for reliability is overestimated and Land Rovers unreliability is also overestimated, particularly by Americans. The key point in your statement was "reputation", this comes from the fact Toyota's have, slowly, replaced the old Defender in most of the world, due to cheapness, were servicing and maintenance just doesn't happen! In the less developed world cars are kept running, by finding parts from recked vehicles, and there are a lot of cheap recked Toyota's !

    • @LandCruisin
      @LandCruisin 3 года назад +3

      @@tygerbright117 Its ok to have a different preference, but Facts > Bias.

  • @smooth8397
    @smooth8397 3 года назад +4

    Land Rover: the ability to take you where almost nobody can find you...and leave you stranded. Unreliable and crazy expensive to fix are a bad combination

  • @breakingvideos8564
    @breakingvideos8564 3 года назад +1

    Toyota no one can beat you .
    You are a beast and will be .
    Toyota don't underestimate the power of a Toyota .

  • @KingKong-xp6so
    @KingKong-xp6so 3 года назад +4

    I think FJ Cruiser was the perfect competition of it

  • @jgcruisers
    @jgcruisers 2 года назад +2

    10, 20, 30, 40 ,50 years from now, only the toyota will be still working

  • @tclg1
    @tclg1 3 года назад +10

    LC all day, everyday.. You guys should air down though

  • @josephthucdongnguyen2435
    @josephthucdongnguyen2435 2 года назад +1

    Nobody even mention about the Prado whilts in Australia people are lowballing these two under Prado 😆

  • @naveenthemachine
    @naveenthemachine 3 года назад +15

    LC no contest
    The defender can’t defend itself as a good suv when it breaks down

    • @johnpaulonyeama9931
      @johnpaulonyeama9931 3 года назад

      Well it's more capable offroad than the landcruiser but yes yes reliability issues which the new range rover ambassador is dressing very well

    • @jeff1595
      @jeff1595 3 года назад +1

      @@johnpaulonyeama9931 once all the issues are fixed it will shit on te land criuser that gay suv

  • @rrace002
    @rrace002 3 года назад +1

    Coming from someone who has owned:
    - 2008 Range Rover sport supercharged
    -2005 4runner
    -and now a 2007 lexus gx4700:
    Its Definitely an over-pushed and an over-hyped position to have to think that toyota reliability is so much superior, or so much more important. I had numerous problems with my 4 runner that never existed in my range rover. Except for the frame rot. The metal they use in toyota and lexus really sucks.
    The reason why toyota has a reputation for being more reliable is partially because its under-powered.
    Its built to handle more power than it comes with. Parts for them are also much cheaper, but you can feel the cheapness when you drive it.
    I had a 2008 range rover sport supercharged, and I just switched to a 2007 lexus gx470. Overall, the driving experience is much less fun with the GX470. It almost feels like someone pissed in my cheerios. But then again, the msrp is much less for the lexus gx470.
    In either case, if you can afford an 80-100k vehicle, you can probably afford to fix it every so often. And additionally, you're not going to keep the car for 20 years...... You're more likely to drive it 100k-150k miles and then want a newer better vehicle anyway.
    So buy the lexus, pay more, get a slower and less powerful car, and use it in the exact same way, get the same gas mileage, and pat yourself on the back because you didn't break down?
    I like to hear my supercharger whine.

  • @Mohammed-vs4fm
    @Mohammed-vs4fm 3 года назад +5

    Habibi come to Dubai we will show you what lc200 can do 😂

  • @karperiramriram8603
    @karperiramriram8603 3 года назад +1

    Both of them every powerful & Beautiful very good capable to go anywhere off roaring side..
    But my choice
    is LC ZX...

  • @freddieflanders
    @freddieflanders 3 года назад +17

    Land Rovers are reliable I’ve seen many with 250k plus miles

    • @jeff1595
      @jeff1595 3 года назад +4

      Yea the internet is definitely not a place to ask people if it's reliable unless they're not 12 and actually owned one people always shit on land rover for its reliablity when they haven't even owned own Alot of my neighbors own one sometimes for 15 years or more and never have a problem but quick tip is never buy a merc your lucky if you manage to leave the dealer without a check engine light going on they have the worst customer service and mechanics smh.

    • @and7976
      @and7976 3 года назад +2

      land rovers are garbage

    • @and7976
      @and7976 3 года назад +1

      @@jeff1595 market price doesn't lie, explain the HUGE used price difference?

    • @jeff1595
      @jeff1595 3 года назад

      @@and7976 since when did I talk about depreciation every car has depreciation its like puberty you just accept it :)

  • @robwainwright5387
    @robwainwright5387 3 года назад +2

    As a long time Land Rover owner/driver, that new defender just doesn't work for me. To many gizmos that most likely will only last 3 years. No thanks mate, you can keep it. In this instance, I'd rather go with the Toyota.

  • @ryanramsey6391
    @ryanramsey6391 3 года назад +18

    "Cruiser" Nothing else enough said.

  • @eltzrothm1
    @eltzrothm1 3 года назад +6

    I'd like to see a behind the scenes of this crew learning the whole filmmaking craft as they go. It's be cool to see them learn about ND filters and color grading and microphones and background music. Doing more than one take so you can get different stick-on gopro angles. Don't swivel the camera to the thing the guy is talking about. Cut to the thing in the edit. Stuff like that.
    You never get to see that learning process of going from really good home movies to polished videos. It's like I'm learning with you.

  • @gc2234
    @gc2234 3 года назад +6

    The tailgate locks in place if you wiggle it. Every Defender owner knows about this. It's a shame you made it out like it's a fault. Also, if you wanted a split tailgate get the Discovery or Range Rover.

    • @jdean2131
      @jdean2131 3 года назад +1

      It’s a fault. But not a big one.....it’s still a jolly good off roader. Built Brit tough....

    • @gc2234
      @gc2234 3 года назад +3

      @@jdean2131 it's not a fault... It basically acts as an infinity hinge. Here you go... ruclips.net/video/U65ytPTi0r0/видео.html

    • @jerrymyahzcat
      @jerrymyahzcat 3 года назад +1

      If people read the manual they would know about this stuff. If you notice after he was finished in the rear of the Defender, the door was actually staying where he left it - not fully open - it wasn’t closing and hitting him.

    • @eugene9852
      @eugene9852 3 года назад

      If it requires people to read the manual to be able to open the door, then it's a design fault.

    • @jerrymyahzcat
      @jerrymyahzcat 3 года назад +2

      @@eugene9852 they can open the door without the manual - but utilising the feature to lock it anywhere in place requires instructions. Some things you should just know yes, but features need to be explained.

  • @dafyddhumphreys8921
    @dafyddhumphreys8921 3 года назад +2

    The Landy I think goes into super extended mode for more hight over those rocks.

  • @vzheka1981
    @vzheka1981 3 года назад +9

    i wouldn't drove off too far from autoservice on land rover

    • @jeff1595
      @jeff1595 3 года назад

      Highly doubt you know much you can't even spell lol!

    • @vzheka1981
      @vzheka1981 3 года назад +1

      ​@@jeff1595 you right, cuz english isn't my native language, but every year statistic of reliability tell us that i'm right, top of lemon cars landrover/jaguar

    • @vzheka1981
      @vzheka1981 3 года назад

      ​@@jeff1595 i suggest you to watch from TFL channel review about this car, they are own it, cuz own it and just test it it's two different thing

    • @babyphat8965
      @babyphat8965 3 года назад +1

      @@vzheka1981 you should watched other channel too. Or maybe their video didn't interest you because their land rover doesn't break down?

    • @vzheka1981
      @vzheka1981 3 года назад

      @@babyphat8965 I believe that some land rover/range rover doesn't break down, but in general 99% it's lemon

  • @johnstonekiambi4875
    @johnstonekiambi4875 3 года назад +1

    Nice, very well demonstrated! And some laughter along with the review!

  • @bekabeka71
    @bekabeka71 3 года назад +5

    Land cruiser is simply the best suv. Here in my country if you own one everybody gets out of your way especially if it’s a black tinted!

  • @dannyho9076
    @dannyho9076 3 года назад +1

    this toyota is the king of offroad,no others can compare as i known.

  • @Big_Black_Dick
    @Big_Black_Dick 3 года назад +26

    @22:42 all that wheel articulation from that land cruiser is like hardcore porn lol 😂 awesome sight

    • @Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix
      @Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix 3 года назад +1

      And the defender looks like a shopping cart going offroad because it has no suspension travel at all when its at offroad height.

  • @eugene9852
    @eugene9852 3 года назад +6

    I have to say I'm not a fan of the Defender tailgate. It looks nice and retro, but it's just not practical. I'd much prefer the LC split tailgate, even if it's slow to open and close.

    • @chanceym6000
      @chanceym6000 2 года назад +1

      I agree. I own a split tailgate Land Rover (Discovery 3) and the only reason the Defender tailgate is swing out is because of the full size spare wheel

    • @mahirvlogs5550
      @mahirvlogs5550 2 года назад

      Actually that split tailgate was copied from range rover

  • @jonlosito2004
    @jonlosito2004 2 года назад +3

    The new Defender is a nice capable off road vehicle with lots of modern technology, power, and materials, and so on, BUT... in reality, you just SIMPLY can't beat the Land Cruiser!!

  • @franklynvilla2614
    @franklynvilla2614 3 года назад +10

    In 2030 can you guys take them again and then you will have a winner, wait I know the Land Cruiser

  • @raegenrichard8993
    @raegenrichard8993 Год назад +1

    So, the guy in the LR just does the parts my mom could do in her MDX, got it…

  • @camilomendoza2722
    @camilomendoza2722 3 года назад +8

    Land cruiser always!!! That air suspension will be a real problem in months.

  • @lennykibet6689
    @lennykibet6689 3 года назад +7

    At 13:54, I believe there are 2 extra high modes for the suspension above the highest off road mode. I believe engaging them will help you clear that obstacle.

    • @arkos55
      @arkos55 3 года назад +1

      Yes, would be nice if reviewers actually read the manual before reviewing a car.

    • @mahirvlogs5550
      @mahirvlogs5550 2 года назад

      Exactly the defender can go upto 334 mm which is much more than the competition

  • @Davidrobertwhittaker
    @Davidrobertwhittaker 3 года назад +3

    $91,000?!!! We can’t get the 200 series land cruiser in the UK anymore but at least when it was last sold we got adjustable height suspension, locking diffs, etc etc as standard! I thought it would be cheaper than the defender, especially when you compare the rather tacky interior and how many buttons that model was missing inside! Big respect for it though, just not sure Toyota are really getting it right with pricing and spec...

  • @3739blog
    @3739blog 3 года назад +10

    If you think either cars are perfect for overlanding, then go out overlanding!
    I’d pray over for the owner of the Defender.

  • @michaelbautista5803
    @michaelbautista5803 3 года назад +16

    The defender looks like it was designed by a baby...landcruiser (all) designs are classic!

  • @alejandroarostegui4537
    @alejandroarostegui4537 3 года назад +3

    You guys talk too much... We really want to see the performance!!!

  • @TheMAPMA
    @TheMAPMA 3 года назад +6

    LR reliability infamy precedes them :D

  • @rob3518
    @rob3518 3 года назад +2

    If the Defender ever becomes as reliable I WILL BUY ONE. until then I’ll make do with my LC 200

  • @grafpotozky7569
    @grafpotozky7569 3 года назад +6

    At the end of the day the Defender will be used by the housewives from the suburbs for shopping and driving the children to school.

    • @zhardoum
      @zhardoum 3 года назад +1

      Sold 18 in the past 3 weeks, no soccer moms yet, but i live in hope!

  • @ahmadalchalabi5323
    @ahmadalchalabi5323 3 года назад +1

    LAND CRUISER VS land rover 🤣🤣🤣🤣incomparable

  • @tsklitzka
    @tsklitzka 3 года назад +3

    I can never understand why all these reviewers never put decent tires on the vehicles or at least the same tires. Tread and tire P.S.I. matter a lot off road, especially if you're running road tires on rock in the cold. If either of those vehicles had good all weather AT tires they would have destroyed that trail.

  • @abdulaziz-_-f_158
    @abdulaziz-_-f_158 3 года назад +1

    Land Cruiser is more powerful and already carries the pride of the land, money competing

  • @OmarAmaya138BPM
    @OmarAmaya138BPM 3 года назад +6

    Awesome video. Fan of both SUVs

  • @caco8328
    @caco8328 3 месяца назад +1

    if I win a Land Rover, I sell it and buy a Land Cruiser. Australians say: if you want to go to the desert, take a Land Rover, if you want to come back, take a Land Cruiser.

  • @ej254
    @ej254 3 года назад +11

    Land cruiser for me :)

  • @wanbee3635
    @wanbee3635 2 года назад +1

    I never trust a land Rover, it may get stuck/breakdown in the jungle...
    My confident is with my Landcruiser.
    I have 1 LC Prado series 90 aged 25 years. Still running good & never have any single breakdowns...salute to Toyota...👍