Compared: Toyota Tacoma vs Jeep Wrangler vs Pennsylvania Gulch Off-Road Review
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I was behind a guy who took his TRD pro Tacoma down black bear pass. Went on three wheels but did all my jeep could do. Toyotas are amazing machines. Love jeep and Toyotas. Let's out our petty differences aside folks. Both are amazing machines.
You can do black bear pass in a Subaru outback or jeep cherokee. It's not much of a challenge. Absolutely love doing BB Pass though. Beautiful. Not so technically difficult but some real butt clinching moments like the section called "The Steps".
Currently own a 2016 Tacoma TRD Off Road, came from a 2014 Wrangler Rubicon (2 door). Though fun off road, living with the Jeep was a nightmare after like 6 months. Great 2nd vehicle for recreational purpose. My Tacoma for everyday and trail usage is night and day better. Way more comfortable on the highway with more payload and towing capacity, but also very balanced off road with a rear locker and crawl control. Not to mention, my Tacoma’s reliability and resale value.
Bobbo Morgan but jeeps are known for not being reliable went from Jeep Wrangler to a Tacoma I love the Tacoma more
70K miles on my 13 JKU and only had (2) issues with it over 5 years, both of which were mild. I dont thinks thats that bad considering my FJ had the same amount of issues over one year.
M3This but it’s a FJ what you expect
Still a Toyota. Everyone talks about Jeep reliability and how its poor but thats completely false. JD Power just ranked it equal to Toyota this year: www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/get-ready-for-this-jd-powers-initial-quality-survey-ranks-jeep-equal-to-toyota.10696/
I’ve had no issues with my ‘09 Rubicon with 117k miles
18:40 next time you see some trash on the trail,plz get that stuff in the bed of the truck or in the trunk and throw it to the first garbage bin you see. Great video!
Good point and will do!
Thanks 👍😊
I was thinking same thing.
Jose Moreno Porras
Normally Yes, pick up the dirty diapers and beer bottles. But this is an off road trail, you leave the leftovers as a warning for those who follow!
No Sling, you clean up.
Kind of surprised you didn't pick up that plastic garbage someone left out on the trail.
Especially after showing it on camera and throwing it back onto the ground lol
Great video....good apples to oranges comparison.
I like that you compare "real" world type trucks...some with slight mods and others that are OEM. Not all of us can afford or justify a Raptor, ZR2 or a Tacoma TRD Pro.
Perhaps a F150 XLT 4x4 going up Gold Mine Hill in the future...
My jeep kept breaking. My Tacomas never failed me on the trail.
Must of been a wrangler
I just ordered me a new Toy Tacoma Off Road after having a 93 Toy truck for 30 years that has never broke except a new timing chain.Everything else stock been wheeled hard hunting,off roading in the mountains of rocky central Idaho.And the 93 aint going nowhere until im dead LOLThem old toys are lifted right from the factory just right!I got the 22re lock out hubs..My new Tacoma Off Road will be mostly highway use.
What I would LOVE to see is a bone stock 2018 Wrangler JL Sport S vs. a bone stock 2018 Tacoma TRD Off Road in a good offroad trail comparison. That would be interesting.
yes a proper apples to apples comparison. stick similar mods on the toyota and its tc would let it go as far if not further than the jeep
Seems like a Sport S lines up closer to the SR5. All the "S" package does is add things that a 15k Kia has standard, such as power locks, windows, and AC. No off-road goodies, while the TRD has the locker and crawl.
Naw, the Sport S would line up well against the TRD Offroad. Very similar tires, BLD traction control just like the Taco, similar ride height, etc. That would be the best (and most apples to apples) offroad comparison they could do.
OFFRD BLD is not a locker. SR5 trim comes standard with an automatic E-limited slip rear diff, which is more in line with BLD. Also, SR5 and Sport both come with street tires, while TRD OR has more off-road designed tires. Maybe the old JK Willys Wheeler lines up more with the TRD as it came with a rear ltd slip and BEG KM's. Another way to look at it is Sport is the base Jeep, and TRD is the third tier up in the Taco model line (SR, SR5, TRD). It would be great if jeep offered a Sport with a rear locker and BFG KO2s. THAT would be a direct TRD OR competitor. Tho, Jeep guys are gonna buy Jeeps, and Taco guys will buy Tacos. No test is changing anyone's mind.
That's funny. I'm not sure why, but I always hear this kind of stuff from Toyota owners. Even more so when I was a Toyota owner and no Jeep owners were thought to be around. The Toyotas are great, but the Jeeps are in their element on the trail. They simply are more capable, in the hands of equally experienced drivers.
Tacoma did great!. Yes the "modified" Jeep swallowed the trail as to be expected but the Taco being a stock longer wheelbase, did what the best selling midsize truck do best, Offroad with reliability and utility!!!
Of course the modded Jeep will eat this type of terrain up. More impressive was that the stock Taco had no issues. In fact, I'd wager the Taco is capable of even more. The thing is, the 2door jeep is a 1 trick pony, and is poor at most everything else, while the Taco is a good all rounder. Also, Taco would leave the JK in the dust at high speed desert stuff. And I'm a Jeep fan, btw.
what does the taco do that the jeep doesn"t?
Love how this channel NEVER shows modified Tacoma’s in any of their comparison videos and always usually shows stock Tacoma’s up against modified other vehicles
Steve Chmiel in every video they have done of the 3rd gen Tacoma it definitely feels like they all dislike the truck . I would love to see more taco vids.
Steve Chmiel: it's no secret that Roman doesn't like Toyotas he's always hating on them. Notice his condescending remarks at Toyota vehicles on almost every test video. Every now & then he'll say something minimally positive just to not make it so obvious (but only to not lose the Toyota crowd).....I'm glad you noticed that they never show modified Tacomas. All they have to do is throw some good all terrain tires & your good to go! Even so Toyota has managed to hang in there. Despite the unbalanced comparison on their videos.
roman is also a douche in person as well. so i'm not surprised. but yes it is obvious how he is on toyotas in the vids. TFL would be a better channel without him.
j burggg not to mention he is the most awkward corniest dude on earth being the main spokesman and face of the channel. Not good. As much as I love this channel, I usually can’t watch a video with just him doing the entire video.
Mine is stock so I like seeing what it's capable of
Stock Tacomas keeping up with modified Wranglers is always good to see.
Jordan Yang it doesn't mean anything lol I took my TJ Sahara on 31s offroad with fully built JK rubicon's on 37s; the jeep just wasn't pushed to its limits ...
Those are some very marginal mods on the Jeep, honestly, and the Jeep didn't have a locking differential. Give me a locker over a couple inches of lift, stiffer shocks, and more aggressive tires any day of the week.
Christopher Michaelson well next time you get stuck in mud I won’t be pulling you out I’ll let a CHEVY do it
LOL I have 37s, 3.5" lift and front/rear ARB lockers on my Jeep. Plus a 10K pound winch, dual batteries, and other recovery equipment. If I get stuck somewhere, your Taco will get stuck on the way to recover me.
Christopher Michaelson lol I got e lockers front rear 35s with winch full recovery gear 6 inch lift I doubt I’ll get stuck been on rubicon trail went to Moab did desert dunes in the Tacoma try me
Really nice video guys. Your channel has come a long way. Ever since you allowed Andre to start speaking English the channel has gotten that "technical" information side it needed a while back. Plus Nathan is great for the driving and dry humor. Andre and Nathan are a good combo. Roman and Mr. Truck are also a good combo.
The $42K Tacoma actually starts at $34K for a TRD Off Road in 4x4, after that it’s just destination and convenience options with nothing that adds to off road prowess.
Allan K yup mine was 34,5
I also love Jeeps but for me there is no point daily driving one, for the money I’ll buy Tacoma TRD Off Road every time.
55k here in canada :(
hit it right on the nail! great comment Allan!
i ended up buying a 2018 trd off road tacoma for the pretentiously rich side of west LA/malibu/hermosa beach areas i live at. I can't tell you how much fun it is cutting off porches and other such millionares in exotic racing cars with chrome letters on my tailgate on a black paintjob. Did i mention i've gone over islands to dodge traffic on more instances then i can keep track of ;) 2300 miles in 3 weeks, can't get enough of the COMA
A stock Tacoma tackled a significantly modified Jeep and had virtually no issues, and people are just "Meh" about it.....
I think TFL tried to pretend as if this was a David vs Goliath match up, but I think they, and everyone else, kind of expected everything to go the way it did and are just not shocked by the result.
Let’s face it they went down trails that weren’t crazy. If the Jeep had the sway bar disconnected and actually went down tough trails there would be no stock taco in sight. The test was apples to oranges vehicle wise but the trails used could be tackled by several stock vehicles.
That trail was "meh." Not that hard. A hard trail would have beaten the hell out of the Toyota's skid plates and flattened a tire.
ChokeKOO! This Jeep is less capable than a bone stock Rubicon. It has bigger tires, but also the factory gearing and no lockers. The mods are all show unfortunately.
Exactly. This Jeep's mods are very low yield and more for aesthetics...especially compared to a vehicle with a locking differential.
This is even worse than Apple's to oranges. LOOK AT THOSE TIRES! Would love to see a realistic comparison............... Just once....
Jonathan Reed Most rigs are built this way. This is probably the most realistic you can get. When you show up with friends on a trail, most would have different rigs with different setups. Lift, tires, lockers, and other electronics. You’re looking for a more controlled test, where both rigs have similar equipment. They should point out that it’s a comparison between those two particular rigs. Not all Tacomas and not all Wranglers are considered, just those two vehicles against each other.
@@julesbabauta
I'm sure he is just talking about the tires. Throw some good tires and that Tacoma will really come to life. TFL never does this for Tacomas.
@I know you are right, And I just got owned but: Junk is that fiat that wont see 100k without major repairs 😂
They do that to sell the truck on the test drive being so quiet. I doubt people would be buying Tacoma’s with muds as much due to the noise. I’m putting kids on mine next month before winter.
@@Pengowirr wife's dads Ram 4 wheel system, rear end, failed at about 39k. They wouldnt cover it.
As a owner of both, 98 wrangler and a 99 and 2018 Tacoma, Tacoma is a great reliable everyday use with very good off-road capabilities, but wrangler is just a an off-road monster, specially hill and rock climbing that it’s made to scrape rocks and go over almost any obstacle, not to be scared of, if you want a toy? Get a wrangler, for anything else get a Tacoma, or get both and have fun
I owned a TJ Wrangler before I bought my 1st 4Runner. It was a fun Jeep. I liked taking the top and doors off. My wife daily drove it and we wheeled it plenty. I’ve owned 2 Land Cruisers, a Tacoma, and currently another 4Runner since that 1st 4Runner... I’ve never bought another Jeep.
I am amazed with my Tacoma and its off road capability. I have a Stock TRD off road 2008. It is just a beast!! Even in 2 wheel drive it goes places that surprise me. LOVE IT,
I paid $37,600 for a new 2017 Tacoma trd offroad. Toll package.
Resist the Lies that is exactly the price I was quoted just the other day from a dealership called IRA in Danvers, MA
why don't you guys ever put any moded Tacomas in your videos???
Moded tacoma unfair match jeep you know this. Stock tacoma = Moded jeep. If tacoma Moded no one can beat (maybe frontier 4runner land cruiser)
Maybe because the reliability of the Taco makes up for the mods.
I also would add that tires make a BIG difference. I get it that Toyota contracts with Good Year minivan tire division for their stock vehicles but to be totally fair when doing test each vehicle should be equipped with the same tires.
@@Kodazot but they have a modded jeep now
@@Kodazot Sorry bud, that’s certainly not true. I wheel with everyone, but I can’t find anyone with a stock Toyota to wheel the same trails as my stock Jeep. I even have videos with modified Toyotas having more trouble than my Jeep. Still, Toyotas are great, but let’s not kid ourselves. Toyotas are better than Jeeps in some other ways, but off-road isn’t one of them.
Let's hope you guys did right by the trail and cleaned up all that garbage you tossed around. Set the example...
The TACO has a bed to haul it out. ;-)
I think the point being the Wrangler is the worlds top dog for off-roading but all things considered incl soccer moms hauling camp gear, the Taco is miles ahead especially in resale/long term reliability.
I'm myself a ex Taco owner but will be getting the 2019 Jeep JL but nothing beats owning a Tacoma for 7 years, putting over 120k troublefree miles on it (with only oil changes and tire rotation) and then selling it for 70% of its value. No other brands/trucks even come close to a Taco in this aspect. Hands down.
But there's something about a Rubicon that takes the cake as well ;-)
I just got back from a fun 2000-mile trip from Colorado to Missouri and back in my 2004 4Runner Sport (4.7-liter V8) cruising at 80 mph down the highway with ice cold air conditioning, and great tunes blasting on the stereo. Once I got there, I towed my dad's boat to the lake and did a little off-roading around Warsaw, Missouri. The same trip in a Wrangler would have been torture, and I never would have been able to tow a Bayliner with it.
Great vid guys!! But Roman you have hill decent control, first gear in 4Low. You take your feet off
my stock '17 trd off road regularly keeps up with heavily modded jeeps. just remember to walk the trail and plan your line.
This this crazy guy in Moab with a stock 90's Crown Vic and there are video's of him on trails out performing tacomas, jeeps, landcruisers, hummer etc. because he knows how to pick lines.
Great video gentlemen. I am a long time Jeep guy currently running a built 2002 TJ on 35's. I plan to add a Tacoma to my garage to keep the Jeep company. I will use the Jeep for hardcore crawling and the Taco with a long travel Fox or Icon suspension setup for high speed fire road running. The best of both worlds.
Scott
Here comes the "reliablity vs unreliability" comments lol. Honestly both are off-road worthy, reliable, and awesome
If anyone is surprised by Toyota off road capabilities then you’ve been living under a rock.
The Jeep is meant for off road that is why you have the roll bar and clearance etc The Tacoma is better for use to haul stuff and a comfortable ride. They may be similar but totally different....I have owned both and I like the Wrangler better because of the solid axel and the way it maintain its value . I sold my old 2009 Wrangler to buy a 2020 Wrangler Willys and I got 10,000 for mine that had 170,000 miles. The Tacoma is a compromise between off-road and utility
Impressive for a STOCK TACOMA against a Slightly modified Wrangler 👍
On a not-so-difficult trail
I know you are really proud of your wrangler (and it is a nicely built sport), but the Tacoma...to my eye...did it with much less drama and much more grace. The moral of the story is that while the wrangler is more focused the Tacoma will suit most people's off road needs.
And the Chevy Colorado eat's the Taco, on road and offroad.
Couldn't agree more. I think they were spot on when they called the Jeep more of a "play thing" whereas the Tacoma is more of a real world vehicle. And for 99% of people, the Tacoma gets the job done on-road and off.
@EljomoL Elaborate?
@sunrunner455 I hope you aren't expecting a reasoned and well thought out reply. He's a chevy guy and thats fine. The ZR2 is great and it does what he needs (or imagines in his mind). People who actually tour with their trucks know better than to engage in this silly debate...they'd rather be in the backcountry enjoying life.
@@ElJomoL that Colorado barely leaves the trailer park.
Toyota is much more civilized, that and you don't have people constantly waving at you.
This is one of the easiest trails I have ever seen and idc what anyone says I would never off road a Jeep more than 10 miles from a service center.
EXCELLENT REVIEW!!!!
Getting my 2021 Toyota Tacoma TRD 4X4 OFFROAD Premium in 2 weeks!
Pretty cool guys! Both are great vehicles but I still love my 2017 Tacoma Trd.
Great video guys. Roman I am with you when it comes to off roading I will take the Jeep every time.
Didn’t think it would be a fair comparison but the Taco did great... especially with those tires!! As usual, another great and fun video!! 😊
To equal things out, you should follow up these 2 vehicles with an Ike Gauntlet run.
I know you guys usually like to test stock, but it would be really nice to see comparisons of vehicles on same tires. It makes such a big difference and is something literally everyone changes (whether right away or after 2 years cause they need new ones).
Jeep is a beast w/o rival.
Nice Video Guy's! I have a Tacoma SR5 4x4 and I love it. The only off roading I do is at the Beach, which it does great. The Tacoma is also good in the snow, way better than my Avalanche, which is surprising. It's nice to see the comparison.
I am always amused by all the homer comments. TFL should host a 4WD event (street legal only vehicles). See if the fanboys can back up their comments. I think it would be fun.
Do people really question Wrangler vs. Tacoma? This should be a no brainer Jeep all the way.
If you think about the tires, the long wheel base and the fact that you can haul some cargo in the TACO, I'd call it the winner here. I had one and they are great trucks.
Winner at what? This is about off-road and the Jeep is clearly much more capable stock for stock
@@SanctumOfDreams stock? That Jeep is modified, and the Tacoma is stock and the Tacoma still went everywhere the Jeep went.
Thats really impressive of the stock taco
No matter how many comparisons are done. One is a Chrysler. That will always always always let you down. Had two. They were the least reliable thing I had ever owned. Hands down. The Toyota will always be a better car for a real person. Car reviewers turn their stuff in in two weeks. Even tfl thought that putting 40k miles on that jku they had was a lot of miles. Which most American car buyers do think. 100k is unheard of. Especially since they got rid of the amc 4.0 and went to all Chrysler motors.
bgtx 👍 my friends 300c had 100,000 mile warranty and his tranny went out at 90,000 and at 95,000 the engine blew he got them bpth fixed for free lol
Of course Toyota is better quality product. But the Jeep is more FUN because it's a toy first and foremost, and everything else is secondary. And if it's relatively new and you're not going to keep it for too many years, or you like to wrench...then the Jeep is still the way to go. Especially if it's a second car, has a warranty, and you already have a nice reliable Japanese vehicle in the family. Once you've got the lift on and have the doors and roof off on the Jeep, there's just no comparison to any other vehicle. This is coming from someone who's owned both Wranglers and Toyota/Honda/Nissan products. Now I'm in NYC and don't own a car at all. Jeep..."they're shit but they're fun." Someone said that to me once about my Wrangler and it's the truth :)
The 3.6 in the newer jeeps is a great engine. The 3.8 was garbage but the whole Chrysler is garbage thing is really untrue I large amounts. The hemis are good engines, Chrysler also uses Cummins (they didn’t make it) but to say that all Chrysler’s have bad engines just shows your ignorance.
Toyota reliability will never make me pick their product over a wrangler and it’s amazing capability and industry towering available mods. They are plenty reliable. Massive amounts of JKs around me with high 100,000 miles and over 200,000s. If I needed a reliable little truck though I’d know where to shop.
Agreed, own these for a couple years and the Tacoma driver will still love their truck, while the Jeep owner will love his Jeep off road, but really be ready for something else as a daily driver. One is for off road and image, the other is for comfort, reliability, and still has amazing off road capabilities.
Jeep Also has more of a chance of tipping over
And less of a chance getting high centered
Where’s Nathan! He’s great with off road videos.
My bare bones 2018 TRD off road with manual transmission was 35,500 MSRP. Out the door was 34,000 every thing minus tax and registration.
Tacoma will still be running squeak free years after that jeep is in the bone yard.
I just did the switch and I hope your write, my 2014 jeep with 50km was junk. never going to buy a dodge product again. 3x in a row. all garbage.
I have 215k miles on my 05 Rubicon and just over 90k on the wifes jku no issues but a timing chain on the tj
Sorry for your luck
I have a 2000 tacoma 4wd single cab with 200k miles i like it almost better than my friends 2017 trd :)
Bongy Kala yeah mines the 4 cylinder manual tranny 4wd with a 2inch lift. I want to put a set of 2016 trd wheels on it :) i got it used mine came a little rusty frame but my dad has owned 7+ tacomas that all have been over 350k and worked hard
Of course Toyota is better quality product. But the Jeep is more FUN because it's a toy first and foremost, and everything else is secondary. And if it's relatively new and you're not going to keep it for too many years, or you like to wrench...then the Jeep is still the way to go. Especially if it's a second car, has a warranty, and you already have a nice reliable Japanese vehicle in the family. Once you've got the lift on and have the doors and roof off on the Jeep, there's just no comparison to any other vehicle. This is coming from someone who's owned both Wranglers and Toyota/Honda/Nissan products. Now I'm in NYC and don't own a car at all. Jeep..."they're shit but they're fun." Someone said that to me once about my Wrangler and it's the truth :)
For once I would love for you guys to do a solid review where the tacoma actually has some decent tires.
Loved my 2013 Tacoma, but it was 4x2 with a rear locker. It did the job, but having a Jeep, now I know what real wheeling is like. I still may go back to a TRD Off-Road 4X4 Tacoma after the warranty is out on my Jeep.
Wrangler is really good off road. The Tacoma is really good off and on road. The wrangler is slow, burns a lot of gas, it's wind noise loud, and if you get in a wreck in a Wrangler your probably dead.
Ya know the best part about having a bed is picking up after others. Tossing trash to the side of the trail instead of packing it out with you is one of the reasons trails get shut down.
20:10 This Jeep just eats it alive, lifted, big tires, aftermarket upgrades, blah blah blah. Send in the lifted aftermarket Taco.
not sure why you're doing this according to price point, the jeep is a one trick pony, it's all about offroad, the tacoma is a pickup, you're gonna get a lot more use out of the tacoma
You can put stuff in the back of a wrangler too. Not to mention they have tow packages.
@@SanctumOfDreams i can fit more in my wifes elantra than you can in a wrangler
If the Jeep would have been a 4 door, and the Tacoma was lifted, it would have been a much closer competition. That said, I am really impressed with the Tacoma’s performance.
A buddy of mine goes off-roading pretty much every weekend. And he told me his slogan or rhyme for locking his rear diff: locking before rocking. So pretty much what Roman said but it rhymes.
Having owned a two door Rubicon and an old clapped out 4 banger 80’s Wrangler back in the 90’s I can tell you as far as daily fun factor, nothing beats a Jeep. Two door (short wheel base) Jeeps will have you grinning ear to ear without even going off-road and the ability to take the tops off them make them darn near perfect. I currently drive a ‘17 Tacoma with a manual only because I need the bed and towing capacity, if not for those needs I’d be driving a Rubicon. BTW-Jeep haters love to bash their reliability. Well, mine were perfectly reliable and even if they weren’t, the fun factor would override any reliability niggles. Man, I miss my Rubicon. I’m also the #1 Taco fanboy-haha.
The problems with Jeeps is that they are pieces of crap.
Andrew, I had mentioned you Jeep haters for a reason. For being “crap”, Jeep sure sells a heck of a lot of them and I guess I like their crap. Their crap out wheels my Tacoma all day long and resale value is very high. If they truly were crap, they’d be worthless on the resale market. Oh well, to each his own.
Yea, because a Toyota has NEVER broken down. Are you guys so fragile that you can’t deal when shit goes sideways? Do your panties get bound up when the unexpected happens? Do you expect complicated machines to be 100% reliable?
Rod, haters will be haters man. Don't even bother with them. Of course Toyota is better quality product and will last longer if you're keeping it forever. But the Jeep is more FUN because it's a toy first and foremost, and everything else is secondary. And if it's relatively new and you're not going to keep it for too many years, or you like to wrench...then anyone who's driven one knows that the Jeep is still the way to go. Especially if it's a second car, has a warranty, and you already have a nice reliable Japanese vehicle in the family. Once you've got the lift on and have the doors off and roof off on the Jeep, there's just no comparison to any other vehicle. This is coming from someone who's owned both Wranglers and Toyota/Honda/Nissan products. Now I'm in NYC and don't own a car at all. Jeep..."they're shit but they're fun." Someone said that to me once about my Wrangler and it's the truth :)
Personally I don't see the need to hate on either of them.And I though both vehicles done really well on the trail.
Complaining about the noise from crawl control, while the Jeep sounds like it's literally falling apart throughout the whole video haha.
Lot of baby's on here. The Trd has a locker no. What at they whining about. The Jeep is superior offroad. always has been.
Great video, would be good to see stock jeep JL vs stock tacoma trd pro
I've heard several people say to use the locker before you get stuck, but I think my manual says to only lock the rear diff when wheel spin occurs so I've always followed what the manual says.
That's a nice Jeep build. Put a locker on it and it would be perfect. The Tacoma did great too. As a daily I would get the Taco. I've test driven a few of them and I like them. It seems fine for any off roading I would do, which wouldn't be more challenging than this.
These both are great trucks
And lets just enjoy off-roading
2020 Bronco Letssss gooooo
Face it you guys just wanted to get out of the office and play lol I don't blame you 😆
This is funny ye got to put me in both trucks because the ass behind the wheel means it all LMAO
Love the videos, try multi terrain select!!! You can carry a little speed and get the 4 wheel traction that crawl control provides. 👍
i wish when these are done they at least put same tires on the vehicles
Thanks for the vid, next time maybe haul out some of that garbage.
If you want an off roader you can't go wrong with the Wrangler. If you need a truck but also want to go off road the Taco is a fine choice. Well done guys.
When we go out scuba diving or hiking we constantly find trash from inconsiderate people who dump it. I'm surprised to see you didn't take the broken bumper back to the office and put it in the bin rather than leaving it out in the wilderness.
I was about to say the same thing.
Since y’all frequently come across vehicles in off road tests where the tires are the limiting factor, would it be worth getting a couple sets of wheels with very common bolt patterns and throw a set of mud terrains on them to swap onto the vehicle in comparisons like this? Just curious, even just used tires and steel wheels.
Love the Jeep, as a Toyota guy who takes my 4Runner out with Jeeps often, it’s insane how evenly matched they are Off Road. Also insane how much wheelbase makes a difference
so how much of a disadvantage is the 4 runner against the Jeep off road? is just the long wheel base that gives the jeep an advantage?
most vehicles have diff tires sizes so that would throw off ratios in the gearing on testing. they would have to be all same tread and vehicle specific size to be fair?? I am just a plumber haha
some of my best friends & smartest ppl I know r plumbers
Jack Daniel actually it’s the opposite, my 4Runner usually will do better than the Jeeps on the trails I go on. The longer wheel base seems to help me out, especially when the going gets slick. I also have the rear locker where none of them are rubicons, and the locker is an incredible tool to have.
What would normally give the Jeep an advantage though is the solid front axle setup, but each trail prefers different vehicles
Cayle Werstroh it was just a thought, just something to try and level the field a little bit. Tire size will always be a factor, but tread is the biggest change when you’re talking street tires vs off road, regardless of size
Let’s be frank this entire match up is a joke. Even a bone stock JK/JL vs any Tacoma would be the same a joke. They’re just two different types of vehicles. Tacoma is a great truck but it’s not designed to do what a Wrangler can do. Frankly this trail was something of a joke for a Wrangler.
After "root canal" - 18 minutes 43 seconds of the video - it would be nice if you have collected those auto parts left on the trail and disposed on proper place. It is always a good idea to help maintain environment clean
Excellent point. It would have been a great way to promote trail clean up whenever possible.
I highly advise you get the skids that TeraFlex makes for those shocks in back. You were VERY close to hitting them a few times. Great video guys :)
Andre,...you're RIGHT! A pickup truck would be the better option, IF we only are allowed to have one vehicle.
I'd like to see Frontier's best model against Tacoma's best, BUT with the same tires.
Whaddya think guys?
Great video! Looks like you guys had a really fun day. One thing, all of the bits of other truck that you picked up and then threw back on the ground. Did you pick that stuff out and take it out with you? Always leave the trail cleaner tha you found it! Party On.
TFL: "We'll show everyone how a stock Taco easily keeps up with a heavily modded Jeep on a pretty difficult trail. This will demonstrate its true stock capability, and even those of the stock tires. It'll be a hit!"
Half the Toyota fans in the comments: "Y U NOT USE MODED TACO?!? RAGE!!"
Their capacity to fail to catch the super obvious point being made some days, really leaves me despairing for us as a species :P God that's dumb.
Because whenever I think of competition for a Wrangler, I think of a...midsize Toyota pickup?
Tommy's next upgrade to the Jeep should be JKS anti-sway bar link Quick Disconnects for better articulation.
All I got out of this was that a Sport Wrangler modified is very capable off road and maybe a Rubicon upgrade isn't absolutely necessary . Just like Tommy said!
Plus the Tacoma ain't half bad either.
What a joke. Put a 3 inch lift with K02s on that Tacoma and it could do anything that Jeep could do
By now it should be known that mounting a GoPro a few inches from the ground to get that underside view will almost always result in hitting a rock or other obstacle.
Good video mainly due to no bashing or fan boi comment. But this is like comparing an AK47 to an AR15. Plus the jeep was lifted, plus it was 2 door and bigger tires. I own a Jeep and love it, but Taco wins this all day. Lets see a stock 4 door JK sport vs 🌮.
That airplane in the sky reminded me of the barrel role of that stolen plan from SeaTac airport
Great vid guys really enjoyed this one!
Jeep Rubicon Vs g wagon Vs land cruiser 200 series.
100 and 96 wheelbase is a BIG difference??
“I’m approaching the root canal!” ~ Andre
Nice work guys! Looks like extreme fun. Wish there were mountains where I live. Hell, I will take some hills!!!
Great video guys!
Not really a fair “VS”? Stock Tacoma vs a built Jeep? Idk, wouldn’t mind a built Tacoma vs built Jeep 😊
People definitely cross shop these 2 vehicles. Great video guys
Toyota should make the Tacoma available in a short bed access cab for off roaders
Andre, its called two pedal driving. Load up the torque converter while controlling it with your brakes. Exactly what crawl control does except its precise.
I love the fact that the bone stock Taco performed just as well as the Wrangler with 10 grand worth of off- road upgrades. You could tell it was just eating Roman alive everytime the stock Taco tackled a trail section. 😂
“Just as well” until you start fording rivers and doing real off road. Then the taco high centers.
Please put better tires on that Tacoma!
Why? to see the Jeep failing?
You will never see a Wrangler off-roading outside the USA, you will see Tacoma every where in Central and South America where there are no roads. Modern Jeep aren’t built to take punishment like Toyota’s are.