This is not a review. This is just a video of two frustrated guys bitching about the progress and trying to be funny at the same time. If you want to see a real M3 F80 review from a guy that actually knows how to drive a car, watch Chris Harris in stead.
Love the new CR approach to videos lately. Looks like someone realized that the CR brand needed a facelift, which it did. I like that we are essentially seeing the "unplugged" or reboot version of CR. Good job guys.
There are so many better and more professional reviewers of performance cars on RUclips. For intelligent reports on high performance cars try Chris Harris on Cars. For starters, he knows how to drive. Beyond that he's intimately familiar with dozens of performance cars so you get a great comparative perspective. I think the Consumer Reports guys may be better at conventional sedans and SUVs... where they're less overwhelmed.
I bought my M3 after watching this review and others. I agree with the review, they basically said "you can get this in manual! but if you go automatic ..." which I completely agree with! BMW and Porsche with their manual transmissions are what set them apart from Lexus, Mercedes, Cadillac, and Audi.
This review does not surprise me, considering the source. Having owned M3's and M5's, I can tell this M3 either surpasses the reviewers' skills, or simply grates against their delicate sensibilities. The BMW DCT and Porsche PDK represent two of the finest double clutch transmissions currently available. Their preference of the C63 speaks volumes. In agreement with some recent comments, I have no such issues with my F80 M3.
It's not the car or the power output but the satisfaction u get as the driver. I have more fun in my dodge neon than any of the performance brands out there.
No, they probably just aren't pandering to BMW like others are. Drive one yourself. If you like the older BMWs, you won't like the new one. Particularly on steering feel.
Finally, an honest review of the F8x. Seems like everyone else wants to maintain their reputation with BMW to keep getting test cars. +1 on manual. DCT makes no sense for a street GT car.
Try setting the shift speed... you're on automatic around a track? C'mon guys. No wonder you think it's weird. The dual clutch system is insanely powerful, shaves time off performance driving AND it rev matches... failed to mention that one. If you're losing control with the shifting for some reason, I don't think you can blame the dual clutch system.
"Pick one mode and make the thing work"... guess this machine and many other things are going well over your head! Sounds like you've been driving in straight lines a bit too often :P
Which is certainly your prerogative. Dragging is fun. But when you cut down something for it's capability and ease of adjustment, it points to ignorance on your part, in my opinion, rather than ignorance of the engineers.
Consumer Reports is supposed to be "reviewing" cars and telling us about their reliability, ergonomics, design and assembly quality and the plus and minus points of the car ... if they want to go on joyrides, that is their business but they should not dilute their brand by having reviewers like these driving around like teenagers with a new hot rod
They are german cars. You are a Serb/croat/bosnian. I love how people who are from the eastern European countries always say they are european and the people from the western European countries refer to themselves by the actual country they are from. "Haha"
James Shepherd i guess that 70 % of Americans don't know where is Croatia lol... Some of them don't know that Croatia exist xd It's same like you go to another galaxy and say to aliens: "i'm from France" and they barely know where is f****** Earth xD Croatia has only 4 million people, meaningless country in world population ... Btw. Balkan is south-east Europe, not east europe :D
I guess the definition of "fun to drive" differs from person to person doesn't it? To me, "fun" will never involve driving a car sideways. It's actually annoying. But that's just me.
Jake and Ryan - you guys need to review more cars together. This video is so many times better than your individual "professional" videos! Keep up the great work. PS Jake - losing the helmet is a good choice
Im going to start with saying, "everyone is entitled to their opinion". With that said, maybe these gentleman should stick with reviewing microwave ovens. Or the new Prius.
Wow. Where the hell did they find these guys? Were they seriously driving through the grass with an M3? It's like they threw in a pair of college-aged d-bags to comment on a car they know nothing about. It's one thing to prefer a manual transmission, but to call the DCT "annoying" and "stupid" is plain ignorant. BMWs DCT is a pretty amazing piece of engineering, and, with the exception of Porsche's PDK, has very few rivals. Mercedes doesn't even come close, not even in a C63 AMG (although it is a fun car to drive). BTW…they realize that the C63 AMG doesn't have a manual, right? Complaints about the settings is a first too. I mean, part of the fun with this kind of car is playing around with the different settings on the car to see what you like. Then, you just program M1 and M2, but they probably have no idea what those buttons are. It's ok to hate on the M3/4, but if you do so, say something intelligible about the car. Any idiot can drift an M3, but it doesn't make you an expert, which was made clear by this review. Consumer reports should just stick to reviewing vacuums and deodorant.
consumer reports reviews everything from washing machines to cars? jeez... that helps explain the review. if I knew these two could be doing a mower next week I would have never even watched.
Und BMW M3 F80 ist sehr gut und gut, ich würde mir ein solches nehmen, würde jedes mal driftil, und im Allgemeinen, was über dieses Auto zu sprechen, es ist nur Gold, ein gutes Auto.
How can you complain about the DCT gearbox?! Is one of the best gearbox's out there. DCT, PDK, ZF, etc... How can you say that the DCT (dual-clutch) is jurky in town? And even worse, how can you say that the mercedes single clutch (wet-clutch) is better?! The Mercedes is actually jurky in slow speeds and a lot slower when changing gears. They are in totally different leagues. And you can't compare the M3 F80 with the C63 w204. The bmw has a bit less torque and less hp but with less then half of the displacement. So it's a lot more efficient. And don't forget that you get all the power pretty earlier in the rev range. It's just a very complete car. It's a great car.
Driven both c63 and new m3 , two different cars , m3 is ligh and nibble and c63 is just mighty powerful dragster ! However ! The gearbox , man I don't know what that guy is about , but the Mercedes gearbox is soooo slow ! It won't upshift or down shift when you want . M3 is instant ! Quick ! Down shift when u want it to !
go slower then. "the best knows no alternative" is the newest tagline of MB. MB builds luxury sports cars with a hope of sport. BMW builds sport luxury cars. Look at history. no disputing it. BMW has kept "the ultimate driving machine" logo for more than 23 years. They know who they are as a brand more than any other manufacturer. 23 years and counting
Sorry to inform you but that was in the past, today BMW cars have gotten more heavy and slightly less fun to drive with the exception of the M235. Motor Trend themselves said it, BMW is just not what they used to be, the best sports luxury brand, which is sad.Christopher Rose
juan tafoya Your comment is true. BMW "have gotten more heavy and slightly less fun to drive". As have all manufacturers. Look at the size of all cars and their predecessors. My point was that BMW knows who and what they are. The addition of safety equipment and electric power steering have tampered with our human interaction with cars. But BMW continues to nail that feeling of human interaction more than its competitors. The best sports luxury stand still lives because the competition continues to erode with it. Its called driver aids and safety equipment for continuing government compliance regulations.
The old E46 M3 CSL. Now that car was worthy (Link for car reference: ruclips.net/video/u3jVhsI26O4/видео.htmlm35s ). This new M3 is just a S55 Engine (I6) but a Ford Taurus SHO V6 with the boost turned up, stick shift or a dual clutch, and all wheel drive deleted to just rear wheel drive. Not that there is anything wrong with the first two :) . I would buy the CSL in a heartbeat though...
Thanks for muting [most of] the curses, but it sounds unprofessional for an organization like Consumer Reports to even have an employee cussing on camera to begin with.... Nice review otherwise.
What a terrible review. Sounds more like 2 bros out hooning their dad's car than knowledgeable journalists with any meaningful thoughts on the car. The DCT is stupid? Complaining about the programming options? You guys fawn over Toyotas and Hondas and then come up with this mess for a 70K car that can put up performance numbers like 6 figure sports cars, but still has daily family-toting abilities? Sure.
these guys are clueless - i agree with many of the comments here. someone call them assclowns - correct. "im not impressed" the transmission isnt good around town", "underwhelmed". everyone is entitled to their opinion but this car is a pure machine and driveable every day. they cant handle all the "modes" - pick one mode and make it work, drive a regular 3 series - u get 1 mode. maybe you guys should be driving yugos.
poor review by haters. They seen it done it all, can complain about any doodad. BTW, I own and drive an 2016 F80, Silverstone here in Metro Atlanta. Trust me, pwn the roadz! DCT is pretty awesome.
I'll be keeping my E90 328i instead of this one. Yeah, the new M3s are faster, but the steering on the new ones blows, and the interior is so cheap feeling that I'd just as soon be an a Kia as one of them. BMW really needs to get their heads out of their butts fast.
Powaup This review for the sheeps. It's good and I love the car.... but these guys are catering to the lowest common denominator not real ///M guys. The guy with the glasses is complaining about the transmission. The cars got different modes for different purposes. You set the car to eat all mold the cars going to imitate a Toyota Camry. Put it on and mode and you got a real M car. It's the flexibility of this amazing machine that makes it special
These guys should go back to driving kias and Hyundais. Matter of fact, Consumer Reports should stick to Corollas, Civics, and the rest of the bunch. These guys do not know cars!
These guys are a bunch of clowns they talk S*#& about the car but yet have a huge smile on they're face while driving. Comparing an M3 to a FORD?!!! Youre FIRED!
So true, these guys have not a single bit of knowledge about any car on the planet. Though it proves anyone can get 325000 subscribers for not knowing shit about shit
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Lots of complains from two guys that drive mini vans from day to day: )
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This is not a review. This is just a video of two frustrated guys bitching about the progress and trying to be funny at the same time. If you want to see a real M3 F80 review from a guy that actually knows how to drive a car, watch Chris Harris in stead.
Ouch.
+Mirza Keserovic Absolutely correct.
Yet another video to show that the clowns over at consumer reports know nothing about these cars.
It took me 30 seconds to figure out all the buttons on my M3..it's not complicated at all.
those 2 guys have no clue, just talk nonsense.
I guess these guys did not see the M1 and M2 button eh
Love the new CR approach to videos lately. Looks like someone realized that the CR brand needed a facelift, which it did. I like that we are essentially seeing the "unplugged" or reboot version of CR. Good job guys.
Most entertaining review I've seen on this car (and this channel) so far.
This is the best (most fun) car review Consumer Reports has ever done. Let's see more like this. Way to go guys!
If you don't like the dual clutch, why didn't you test the manual version?! XD
There are so many better and more professional reviewers of performance cars on RUclips. For intelligent reports on high performance cars try Chris Harris on Cars. For starters, he knows how to drive. Beyond that he's intimately familiar with dozens of performance cars so you get a great comparative perspective. I think the Consumer Reports guys may be better at conventional sedans and SUVs... where they're less overwhelmed.
Such a bad review.
Best consumer reports video in a long time.
I bought my M3 after watching this review and others. I agree with the review, they basically said "you can get this in manual! but if you go automatic ..." which I completely agree with! BMW and Porsche with their manual transmissions are what set them apart from Lexus, Mercedes, Cadillac, and Audi.
This review does not surprise me, considering the source. Having owned M3's and M5's, I can tell this M3 either surpasses the reviewers' skills, or simply grates against their delicate sensibilities. The BMW DCT and Porsche PDK represent two of the finest double clutch transmissions currently available. Their preference of the C63 speaks volumes. In agreement with some recent comments, I have no such issues with my F80 M3.
For two guys who are talking a lot of crap about the car, they sure look like they are having a great time driving it.
If you don't have a race track at your disposal, what's the point to even spend $40K more than just getting a 335?
+Wells306 Just means that you've never driven an M3 and cannot afford one anyway.
Someone should tell the driver that it's not a V6.
It's not the car or the power output but the satisfaction u get as the driver. I have more fun in my dodge neon than any of the performance brands out there.
This is *my DREAM CAR*
Please tell me you bought it already already?
This is a consumers reports review? What's with all the personality and fun they're displaying?
Dislike for the not so informative review and that ugly C63!
Thats the old C63, the new one looks way different.
I like this as a proper review, when nothing negative is said I think advertisement not review.
2:47 I'm goo to try this on my dad's new gold m3
I would appreciate the ability to adjust the steering independently of the ride. Tight steering, smooth ride!
Thank you Ryan!
So the guys at Consumer Reports have superior taste to all of those well-established car reviewers who say that this car is amazing to drive?
No, they probably just aren't pandering to BMW like others are. Drive one yourself. If you like the older BMWs, you won't like the new one. Particularly on steering feel.
Finally, an honest review of the F8x. Seems like everyone else wants to maintain their reputation with BMW to keep getting test cars. +1 on manual. DCT makes no sense for a street GT car.
Now that's how you drive a fucking car!
I don't see why people are slamming this review. It was different, but entertaining. All car reviews don't have to be somber and/or sober...
Try setting the shift speed... you're on automatic around a track? C'mon guys. No wonder you think it's weird. The dual clutch system is insanely powerful, shaves time off performance driving AND it rev matches... failed to mention that one. If you're losing control with the shifting for some reason, I don't think you can blame the dual clutch system.
"Pick one mode and make the thing work"... guess this machine and many other things are going well over your head! Sounds like you've been driving in straight lines a bit too often :P
Which is certainly your prerogative. Dragging is fun. But when you cut down something for it's capability and ease of adjustment, it points to ignorance on your part, in my opinion, rather than ignorance of the engineers.
terrific driving! 0:13
select "comfort" for steering next time.
These guys need to stick to their Sonic commercials.
Consumer Reports is supposed to be "reviewing" cars and telling us about their reliability, ergonomics, design and assembly quality and the plus and minus points of the car ... if they want to go on joyrides, that is their business but they should not dilute their brand by having reviewers like these driving around like teenagers with a new hot rod
He was like do I have to review this car
'muricans don't know how good this car is
I love my IS F, but I would definitely buy this or the c63 also.
One of tge best reviews ive ever seen, andvi dont even like bmws lol
I wish they leave 4.0 V8 and twin turbo it.... that is a BEAST, it could've get around 500 hp and make this M3 even hotter
American talk about european cars hahha...
They are german cars. You are a Serb/croat/bosnian. I love how people who are from the eastern European countries always say they are european and the people from the western European countries refer to themselves by the actual country they are from. "Haha"
James Shepherd i guess that 70 % of Americans don't know where is Croatia lol... Some of them don't know that Croatia exist xd It's same like you go to another galaxy and say to aliens: "i'm from France" and they barely know where is f****** Earth xD Croatia has only 4 million people, meaningless country in world population ...
Btw. Balkan is south-east Europe, not east europe :D
James Shepherd Same shit for Serbia and Bosnia :)
It is funny when americans start to teach you geography...
...and most of them dont know what is their capital city in state where they live
Look at these consumer guys letting loose! Woo!!!
I guess the definition of "fun to drive" differs from person to person doesn't it? To me, "fun" will never involve driving a car sideways. It's actually annoying. But that's just me.
Jake and Ryan - you guys need to review more cars together. This video is so many times better than your individual "professional" videos! Keep up the great work.
PS Jake - losing the helmet is a good choice
a couple of Phantoms!
Looks like a blast to drive. Thanks for the fun review
Im going to start with saying, "everyone is entitled to their opinion". With that said, maybe these gentleman should stick with reviewing microwave ovens. Or the new Prius.
sounds like a lot of initial understeer into the corner
Wow. Where the hell did they find these guys? Were they seriously driving through the grass with an M3? It's like they threw in a pair of college-aged d-bags to comment on a car they know nothing about. It's one thing to prefer a manual transmission, but to call the DCT "annoying" and "stupid" is plain ignorant. BMWs DCT is a pretty amazing piece of engineering, and, with the exception of Porsche's PDK, has very few rivals. Mercedes doesn't even come close, not even in a C63 AMG (although it is a fun car to drive). BTW…they realize that the C63 AMG doesn't have a manual, right? Complaints about the settings is a first too. I mean, part of the fun with this kind of car is playing around with the different settings on the car to see what you like. Then, you just program M1 and M2, but they probably have no idea what those buttons are. It's ok to hate on the M3/4, but if you do so, say something intelligible about the car. Any idiot can drift an M3, but it doesn't make you an expert, which was made clear by this review. Consumer reports should just stick to reviewing vacuums and deodorant.
Consumer Reports dont like BMW...
Awesome review.
consumer reports reviews everything from washing machines to cars? jeez... that helps explain the review. if I knew these two could be doing a mower next week I would have never even watched.
This Consumer Reports video will really upset Ralph Nader.
I stop watching when he says "this is twin turbo V6......"
***** #CTS-V is so much better, and over $20,000 cheaper.
Used. A 2016 CTS-V will start at at least $80k. The ATS-V is the M3 competitor and will be priced similarly. Know your stuff.
Und BMW M3 F80 ist sehr gut und gut, ich würde mir ein solches nehmen, würde jedes mal driftil, und im Allgemeinen, was über dieses Auto zu sprechen, es ist nur Gold, ein gutes Auto.
A C63 has better steering than an M3? What is this guy smoking...? And the DTC is completely fine in automatic mode
What a horrible review!!!!!! - Do these guy even learn about the M3 features/settings before doing the review.
talking shit about the car while enjoying the drive and laughing like never ... your body can't lie waahahahha
Great video
How can you complain about the DCT gearbox?! Is one of the best gearbox's out there. DCT, PDK, ZF, etc... How can you say that the DCT (dual-clutch) is jurky in town? And even worse, how can you say that the mercedes single clutch (wet-clutch) is better?! The Mercedes is actually jurky in slow speeds and a lot slower when changing gears. They are in totally different leagues.
And you can't compare the M3 F80 with the C63 w204. The bmw has a bit less torque and less hp but with less then half of the displacement. So it's a lot more efficient. And don't forget that you get all the power pretty earlier in the rev range. It's just a very complete car. It's a great car.
Driven both c63 and new m3 , two different cars , m3 is ligh and nibble and c63 is just mighty powerful dragster ! However ! The gearbox , man I don't know what that guy is about , but the Mercedes gearbox is soooo slow ! It won't upshift or down shift when you want . M3 is instant ! Quick ! Down shift when u want it to !
Someone is talking sense, unfortunately there are idiots out there who purely go for the V8 badge.
I still like the E46 m3 better
Reviewer smile and fun factor contradicts its negative critiques.
The fastest car on the planet
These guys are terrible.
what's bmw gonna say when you give their car back without any tread on the tires
enjoy driving pleasure!!!
nice
passenger looks scared shitless lol
Just like Jake said, C63 for me too.
go slower then. "the best knows no alternative" is the newest tagline of MB. MB builds luxury sports cars with a hope of sport. BMW builds sport luxury cars. Look at history. no disputing it. BMW has kept "the ultimate driving machine" logo for more than 23 years. They know who they are as a brand more than any other manufacturer. 23 years and counting
Sorry to inform you but that was in the past, today BMW cars have gotten more heavy and slightly less fun to drive with the exception of the M235. Motor Trend themselves said it, BMW is just not what they used to be, the best sports luxury brand, which is sad.Christopher Rose
juan tafoya Your comment is true. BMW "have gotten more heavy and slightly less fun to drive". As have all manufacturers. Look at the size of all cars and their predecessors. My point was that BMW knows who and what they are. The addition of safety equipment and electric power steering have tampered with our human interaction with cars. But BMW continues to nail that feeling of human interaction more than its competitors. The best sports luxury stand still lives because the competition continues to erode with it. Its called driver aids and safety equipment for continuing government compliance regulations.
Guys .. M Button on the steering wheel. That's your 1 mode.
The old E46 M3 CSL. Now that car was worthy (Link for car reference: ruclips.net/video/u3jVhsI26O4/видео.htmlm35s ). This new M3 is just a S55 Engine (I6) but a Ford Taurus SHO V6 with the boost turned up, stick shift or a dual clutch, and all wheel drive deleted to just rear wheel drive. Not that there is anything wrong with the first two :) . I would buy the CSL in a heartbeat though...
It's an amphibious car, look at the cameras.
Thanks for muting [most of] the curses, but it sounds unprofessional for an organization like Consumer Reports to even have an employee cussing on camera to begin with.... Nice review otherwise.
What a terrible review. Sounds more like 2 bros out hooning their dad's car than knowledgeable journalists with any meaningful thoughts on the car. The DCT is stupid? Complaining about the programming options? You guys fawn over Toyotas and Hondas and then come up with this mess for a 70K car that can put up performance numbers like 6 figure sports cars, but still has daily family-toting abilities? Sure.
He prefers a 2014 C63 lol. Somebody get this guy a fawkin salmon bro.
these guys are clueless - i agree with many of the comments here. someone call them assclowns - correct.
"im not impressed" the transmission isnt good around town", "underwhelmed". everyone is entitled to their opinion but this car is a pure machine and driveable every day. they cant handle all the "modes" - pick one mode and make it work, drive a regular 3 series - u get 1 mode. maybe you guys should be driving yugos.
its a straight 6, not a v6
How did these flippin dorks get this job? Can't understand that magnificent machine or drive it none the less.
Way better than the c63
A very fun, but wholly uninformative video.
I wish I could drift that smoothly...need more practice.
poor review by haters. They seen it done it all, can complain about any doodad. BTW, I own and drive an 2016 F80, Silverstone here in Metro Atlanta. Trust me, pwn the roadz! DCT is pretty awesome.
twin turbo BMW...it'll last about a year before it breaks down.
nice m3
Thumbs down because these two yanks are just plain annoying me. What was the whole conversation about DCT @1:25?
I'll be keeping my E90 328i instead of this one. Yeah, the new M3s are faster, but the steering on the new ones blows, and the interior is so cheap feeling that I'd just as soon be an a Kia as one of them. BMW really needs to get their heads out of their butts fast.
8 VW Audi Fanboys. How can this possibly get 8 thumbs down? Oh yeah Audi AWD Fanboys.
Who is she sitting is she my sister rakshashi
these guys are just happy to be riding in the M3.... there talking bullshit !! lol
Powaup This review for the sheeps. It's good and I love the car.... but these guys are catering to the lowest common denominator not real ///M guys. The guy with the glasses is complaining about the transmission. The cars got different modes for different purposes. You set the car to eat all mold the cars going to imitate a Toyota Camry. Put it on and mode and you got a real M car. It's the flexibility of this amazing machine that makes it special
These guys should go back to driving kias and Hyundais. Matter of fact, Consumer Reports should stick to Corollas, Civics, and the rest of the bunch. These guys do not know cars!
All I got from this video is that the steering is no Bueno and it's fast as shit. Not much info on anything else.
These guys are a bunch of clowns they talk S*#& about the car but yet have a huge smile on they're face while driving. Comparing an M3 to a FORD?!!! Youre FIRED!
craigslist be like never used
C63 S has almost 100 more hp and BMW M3 is faster around a circuit
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Electronics gone amok, I prefer the old hardware.
So true, these guys have not a single bit of knowledge about any car on the planet. Though it proves anyone can get 325000 subscribers for not knowing shit about shit