That brought back more bad then good memories. I have never missed running a scraper. It's fun for a min but move up or on in two years or your back will be gone by 40. Paddle wheel on finish isn't a bad job though
😂😂, I can only imagine the PTSD your back was going through, my condolences. I haaaaaaaaate scrapers. Can’t speak for anything past 35 yet, but even this is too old, haha. When I’m telling my friends and family about scrapers, I tell them how the only cool part of operating them, is bragging about it to your friends and family. They move a fascinating amount of dirt, but to me they’re fun for like 5 rounds at most. Fortunately I’ve been getting to hop around different equipment instead, but I have to fully agree, not once would I have rather been in a scraper. Luckily it’s been less and less, and it’s just a few days here and there now, with the occasional gravy job like disking fields. Im with you on the finish work and don’t mind the paddle wheels either. Couple weeks ago got a couple days in a 627k with only 14 hours on it, and that was a pretty killer. Didn’t last though, they had me back in a 637D this week, which was older than I am, lol. What a dog! Plus it 2 mile haul, and I’d say 90% of our road was pumping hard! My back and I are super glad that job is getting an inch of rain today 😂.
@7b7decker7 I ran a 637 for 2 years consistent, then moved up. Had alot more here and there days, fill in and what not. It's a good place to start. If you aren't out of the seat in 2-4 years you will be there until you can't walk. The dozer is a nice place to be. If you get a shot, move on to grade checker if you can read plans. Then it's foreman. After that I quit, got my own license and now do my own thing. Never looked back. I don't regret any of it but I don't ever want to go back. Good luck with your future and keep moving that dirt. There is alot of money to be made in the dirt
Thanks man! For all the hard work too, that’s not an easy job like everyone seems to think for some reason. I’ve dabbled at a couple job sites with a rover, it was nonstop, everyone always needs you everywhere!
❤Great Video📹!! My Dad use to drive the Big 657/657B Motorscrapers in his youth on the various Motorway🛣 jobs in the UK and always remember him telling me years ago about how he'd operate them as you were there with one foot on both peddles and him also saying about having to be extra careful with regards to the back engine as if you weren't careful you would end up jacknifing the scraper if you put too much juice on the rear motor! He also said when you had a cushion hitch it made all the difference! Never operated scrapers myself but sat up in the cabs of 637's & 657B's along time ago and looked out back into the boxes and imagined what could be, those boxes just seemed go on forever! Again great video and thanks for posting👍!!
Thats awesome! I have been able to take my kids to check them out at a couple local jobs, but they don’t get to get in them or go for any rides, unfortunately. Hopefully they will still remember them as you do though, that’s awesome. Your dad sounds rad!
Thanks for watchin! Heck yea they do, it feels like you’ve been in a car wreck by the time you get home at the end of each day. They’re definitely cool to brag about to friends when you see them around, but certainly not my top choice for 6 day weeks, haha.
I hope all goes well for you! Scrapers get pretty gnarly sometimes, but they can be pretty fun too. Crazy machines. If it gets stressful and seems like a lot at first, just stick with it, it’ll get easier with time. You’ll find what works for you, especially if you get good partners that are willing to share some tips🤘🏼🤘🏼.
@@7b7decker7 I was fortunate enough to practice at a training site Friday & today (Tuesday) running a 657K, but just solo loads, no push/pull I’m not a pro yet, but I’m confident about running one on a job now. Definitely harder on the body than most other machines I’ve been on
Yea, I actually kinda prefer open cab equipment. The windows just make it harder to see. Cabs are sweet if you actually get a rig with working AC, otherwise it’s like another 10 the outside temperature, it sucks.
Left foot on the pedals young fella , so yer spine is not twisted around like an owl to look at yer bowl. This turns yer entire body so yer back is towards the door
Lol, Idk about “young fella” as this is the oldest I have ever been, but I guess we’re all young to somebody, eh old timer? I actually did start changing feet over time, but don’t need to anymore. Moved on to checking grade, so now I’m setting up the cuts and fills and tellin em what to do instead! 😂 All the same, the tip is appreciated, and who knows, maybe someone else will read it and it may save their life.
Hey.....Kinda looks like you could easily become a Bull Rider if this heavy equipment gig doesn't work out.......I'm very impressed by all the awesome technology of ' Evil Colonials' building nations for border crashers to break into.......And then try and turn it into a dump like back home.......... Great work .....BUD !!!!!!
Ok so Nicole says I can bombard you with my construction questions. I am sitting at my kids school waiting to pick her up and they are leveling a field next door. They have a D7 leveling with a 613c following it to scape up. So my first question is in what situation would you use this paddle wheel scraped instead of a regular one?
Haha, I’ll do what I can for answers. So the paddle wheels are usually used for finishing work, since its less about”move that mountain” and more of sweeping the last of the unnecessary dirt up and making it perfect. With the paddle allowing it to self load, you save on equipment cost as well as diesel. Technically you can still load a double engine scraper with the right finesse, but it will take longer, just as a paddle wheel would be in a double engine’s shoes moving big dirt.
Solid advice! Although this video doesn’t reflect it, I generally do wear them when it’s applicable. Used to use the foamies, but have since upgraded to noise canceling buds. 🤘🏼
Where in California are you? I see your riding videos all over the places I used to ride when growing up. I got out of cali and made it up to Idaho. Found you from your equipment vids. Im a main line digger operator here in the treasure valley.
Unfortunately I just have the one camera. I wanted to put it on a couple spots on the rig, but with the nature of push/pull scraping, I wasn’t going to be able to set it up to record without needlessly stopping production a bunch of times. I was just able to grab this footage while I was on the go. Hopefully I can figure something out for the next scraper job I’m on. 🤘🏼
I’m some cases, probably most, yea. We did split off once in a while to cut in a couple corners that day, but there wouldn’t have been any benefit to doing it every round in this case. My partner would for sure have had to stop and wait for me before the next cut because there’s no way I wouldn’t get left if I were solo cutting that clay, even though it was a 57 vs. 51. Imagine how unstoked the boss would be if they see that scraper separated from their partner and then waiting lap after lap.. Unhooking would have increased my chances of getting stuck and stopping production. It was super slick and soft clay, so it ate any momentum you found, unlike normal dirt. As soon as your cutting edge was more than .2’ in earth, it was a dog fight, solo. If it was a longer cut we could have just skimmed it, but we didn’t really have the distance to get full loads that way. So even if it was just a 51 pulling, we needed all the help we could get. The entire rest of the job, we were teams of 57s, and the 51s were gettin dozer loaded like normal. It was just my luck I had brought my camera on a day that my partner’s rig was down, but luckily they opted to hop in a 51 over both of us going home. Took what I could get..
The scrapper operators should keep their own haul road smooth. I used to keep my ejection out, apron up and bowl down. Yall bouncing around for no reason.
Man, for a second I thought you were giving your 2 cents based on just watching the video, but no one would do that and expect to be taken seriously, right? You were out there. 😂 Seriously though, I don’t disagree with your theory, unfortunately that only works on conditions that aren’t saturated clay before the bottom line falls out. Believe me, we tried, and after one round it would just blow up again. With big dirt, the developers are paying based on yardage, and scraPers are the ones actually moving that yardage, the rest is just support to increase load counts. So if scraPers waste ALL day dragging out roads and not pulling loads, they don’t make the money, and the bosses are pissed. That’s usually when they bring in a blade; long or messy hauls. It’s cheaper to pay one blade than slow down 6+ scraPers to smooth their own road continuously. I wouldn’t let my back go to waste in the name their money, but when you could easily be replaced by the next guy, you shut up and just get it done. So there actually were reasons oddly enough.
😂 31 years of moving dirt and I’ve never had my scrapers bouncing around like that. You have 6 scrapers there. They can smooth the haul road faster than the grader! Sometimes you have to sacrifice a little to go faster. It will all work out in the end. And as a boss I would never have my workers thinking about not doing something they think is good or be replaced. Dude you need to leave. I used to work for Kiewit. You should go there where you can grow. I see you know what you’re doing. I think you’re at the wrong company.
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A young person's machine. My back hurts watching
No kiddin, even the good days feel like a car wreck! Can’t speak past 35 yet, but it sure feels too old to me 😂.
That brought back more bad then good memories. I have never missed running a scraper. It's fun for a min but move up or on in two years or your back will be gone by 40. Paddle wheel on finish isn't a bad job though
😂😂, I can only imagine the PTSD your back was going through, my condolences. I haaaaaaaaate scrapers. Can’t speak for anything past 35 yet, but even this is too old, haha. When I’m telling my friends and family about scrapers, I tell them how the only cool part of operating them, is bragging about it to your friends and family. They move a fascinating amount of dirt, but to me they’re fun for like 5 rounds at most. Fortunately I’ve been getting to hop around different equipment instead, but I have to fully agree, not once would I have rather been in a scraper. Luckily it’s been less and less, and it’s just a few days here and there now, with the occasional gravy job like disking fields. Im with you on the finish work and don’t mind the paddle wheels either. Couple weeks ago got a couple days in a 627k with only 14 hours on it, and that was a pretty killer. Didn’t last though, they had me back in a 637D this week, which was older than I am, lol. What a dog! Plus it 2 mile haul, and I’d say 90% of our road was pumping hard! My back and I are super glad that job is getting an inch of rain today 😂.
@7b7decker7 I ran a 637 for 2 years consistent, then moved up. Had alot more here and there days, fill in and what not. It's a good place to start. If you aren't out of the seat in 2-4 years you will be there until you can't walk. The dozer is a nice place to be. If you get a shot, move on to grade checker if you can read plans. Then it's foreman. After that I quit, got my own license and now do my own thing. Never looked back. I don't regret any of it but I don't ever want to go back. Good luck with your future and keep moving that dirt. There is alot of money to be made in the dirt
Cool ass video dude, I'm a grade checker so always running with you guys in the cut and making sure you guys get FULL LOADS!
Thanks man! For all the hard work too, that’s not an easy job like everyone seems to think for some reason. I’ve dabbled at a couple job sites with a rover, it was nonstop, everyone always needs you everywhere!
❤Great Video📹!!
My Dad use to drive the Big 657/657B Motorscrapers in his youth on the various Motorway🛣 jobs in the UK and always remember him telling me years ago about how he'd operate them as you were there with one foot on both peddles and him also saying about having to be extra careful with regards to the back engine as if you weren't careful you would end up jacknifing the scraper if you put too much juice on the rear motor! He also said when you had a cushion hitch it made all the difference!
Never operated scrapers myself but sat up in the cabs of 637's & 657B's along time ago and looked out back into the boxes and imagined what could be, those boxes just seemed go on forever!
Again great video and thanks for posting👍!!
Thats awesome! I have been able to take my kids to check them out at a couple local jobs, but they don’t get to get in them or go for any rides, unfortunately. Hopefully they will still remember them as you do though, that’s awesome. Your dad sounds rad!
@@7b7decker7 great stuff there dude👍
Feels like you've been in a car wreck every morning when you wake up. Nice video brotha
That is the absolute truth, haha. Thanks!
That’s a great scraper video!
I appreciate that, thank you! 🤘🏼
good luck your back for the rest of your life
😂😂 no kidding! Once your back is gone, that’s it, and they certainly don’t ride like a Cadillac. Hell of a thing to do for money, lol
Those machines sure move dirt fast but beat your body up.I did it when I was your age, no way I could take that pounding now. Thanks for the ride.
Thanks for watchin! Heck yea they do, it feels like you’ve been in a car wreck by the time you get home at the end of each day. They’re definitely cool to brag about to friends when you see them around, but certainly not my top choice for 6 day weeks, haha.
Ride with it don't get Ridgid
Should be a stiff neck they teach you how to read a haul road
He ain't got his belt on. Unwise
Adjust the apron
That is so cool would love to try driving those machines
It’s a pretty rough gig on the body, but there’s certainly worse ways than “playing” in the dirt all day to make a living, I tell you what!
I started out on a terex ts14 ,pedestal seat no air controls . It was a pleasure to move onto a CAT 631 with a cushion hitch
Dang, that sounds brutal! It’s still rough even with the cushion hitch, so couldn’t even imagine, nor would I want to! 😂
@@7b7decker7 12 hour shifts ,it was like getting out of a tumble dryer at the end of the day
Wives like spending
The best part about hearing a twin engine scraper in people is hear those 2 engine rev its different than than over videos
Man great video!!!!
Thank you? 🍻
Hahaha dig it!!! Love the Ace Ventura "flat road" refrence lol
Thanks! And yea, it was too applicable to not use it 😂
Bull riding could be an option
Excellent video
Thanks! 🤘🏼
Cool ride along, the operator is good 😊😊
Man! If I were driving that scraper my whole body will need a massage as I constantly tilt my body to the right side most of the time! 🤔
Steady speed the whole video, excellent work & explanation
Thank you!
Awesome bro!
Thank you! 🤘🏼🤘🏼
they used to say scraping is a young man's game for a reason beats the absolute shit out of you
No doubt!! It ain’t just the old girls either, even the newer K models throw you around pretty good. Never hit my head on a window so many times 😂
Started my operating career a year ago. Will be running a scraper on a job for the first time starting tomorrow.
I hope all goes well for you! Scrapers get pretty gnarly sometimes, but they can be pretty fun too. Crazy machines. If it gets stressful and seems like a lot at first, just stick with it, it’ll get easier with time. You’ll find what works for you, especially if you get good partners that are willing to share some tips🤘🏼🤘🏼.
@@7b7decker7 I was fortunate enough to practice at a training site Friday & today (Tuesday) running a 657K, but just solo loads, no push/pull
I’m not a pro yet, but I’m confident about running one on a job now. Definitely harder on the body than most other machines I’ve been on
8 years on one of those and my back and neck hurts watching
When you know, you know, and you certainly know!
Hey Mate i not kno much about operating a 651 , but u sure make it look easy !!
Thank you! I reckon anything you do 90-100 times a day, you’re bound to get a little smoother at, haha
You even had a cab on yours... I'll bet that's pretty cool.
Yea, I actually kinda prefer open cab equipment. The windows just make it harder to see. Cabs are sweet if you actually get a rig with working AC, otherwise it’s like another 10 the outside temperature, it sucks.
Left foot on the pedals young fella , so yer spine is not twisted around like an owl to look at yer bowl. This turns yer entire body so yer back is towards the door
Lol, Idk about “young fella” as this is the oldest I have ever been, but I guess we’re all young to somebody, eh old timer? I actually did start changing feet over time, but don’t need to anymore. Moved on to checking grade, so now I’m setting up the cuts and fills and tellin em what to do instead! 😂 All the same, the tip is appreciated, and who knows, maybe someone else will read it and it may save their life.
Excellent!!!
Thanks!
Hey.....Kinda looks like you could easily become a Bull Rider if this heavy equipment gig doesn't work out.......I'm very impressed by all the awesome technology of ' Evil Colonials' building nations for border crashers to break into.......And then try and turn it into a dump like back home.......... Great work .....BUD !!!!!!
I wish my old back would stand it I would love to be running one again. I'm 75 years old and cut my teeth on a C Pull WABCO
I can only imagine the awesome stories you have to tell!
Supposed to pop your Cushion hitch first thing when you finish loading
Good job . Funny
All in a days work!
Tandem powered
i was on that job too next to the hospital for KDW.
That’s the one! 🤘🏼
Hell yea bro!! I swear you look so familiar Im in a 2023 Peterbilt water truck, 4000 gallons and an American flag in the cab hahah
And they pay people to do that? 😂 Sweet!
😂 no kiddin! That old saying is true, we get bigger and so do our toys. Long days, but they sure make nice checks.
Ok so Nicole says I can bombard you with my construction questions. I am sitting at my kids school waiting to pick her up and they are leveling a field next door. They have a D7 leveling with a 613c following it to scape up. So my first question is in what situation would you use this paddle wheel scraped instead of a regular one?
Haha, I’ll do what I can for answers. So the paddle wheels are usually used for finishing work, since its less about”move that mountain” and more of sweeping the last of the unnecessary dirt up and making it perfect. With the paddle allowing it to self load, you save on equipment cost as well as diesel. Technically you can still load a double engine scraper with the right finesse, but it will take longer, just as a paddle wheel would be in a double engine’s shoes moving big dirt.
Ya bro machanical bull all day round and up and down side to side,🇭🇲
You already know! 🍻
should use ear plugs mate. you'll still have hearing when your 50
Solid advice! Although this video doesn’t reflect it, I generally do wear them when it’s applicable. Used to use the foamies, but have since upgraded to noise canceling buds. 🤘🏼
Where in California are you? I see your riding videos all over the places I used to ride when growing up. I got out of cali and made it up to Idaho. Found you from your equipment vids. Im a main line digger operator here in the treasure valley.
Ahh yea, I bet it’s sweet up there! I’m out in the East Bay, right down the street from Carnegie. 🤘🏼
@@7b7decker7 where at in idaho?
Do you have another Go Pro so we can see the dirt being loaded and unloaded?
Unfortunately I just have the one camera. I wanted to put it on a couple spots on the rig, but with the nature of push/pull scraping, I wasn’t going to be able to set it up to record without needlessly stopping production a bunch of times. I was just able to grab this footage while I was on the go. Hopefully I can figure something out for the next scraper job I’m on. 🤘🏼
@@7b7decker7 Thanks for showing us the inside of those beasts while you're working.
Move more dirt in ten min with a blade than u move all say with an 8
I compare it to riding a mechanical bull...as fast as you can... around a motocross track...for eight hours straight
Nail on the head brotha 😂😂
Just push the 51 then single load
I’m some cases, probably most, yea. We did split off once in a while to cut in a couple corners that day, but there wouldn’t have been any benefit to doing it every round in this case. My partner would for sure have had to stop and wait for me before the next cut because there’s no way I wouldn’t get left if I were solo cutting that clay, even though it was a 57 vs. 51. Imagine how unstoked the boss would be if they see that scraper separated from their partner and then waiting lap after lap.. Unhooking would have increased my chances of getting stuck and stopping production. It was super slick and soft clay, so it ate any momentum you found, unlike normal dirt. As soon as your cutting edge was more than .2’ in earth, it was a dog fight, solo. If it was a longer cut we could have just skimmed it, but we didn’t really have the distance to get full loads that way. So even if it was just a 51 pulling, we needed all the help we could get. The entire rest of the job, we were teams of 57s, and the 51s were gettin dozer loaded like normal. It was just my luck I had brought my camera on a day that my partner’s rig was down, but luckily they opted to hop in a 51 over both of us going home. Took what I could get..
Wish I knew what the hell was going on! Cool though.
Earthworks ...Thats whats going on!
Sorry 657 Dohhh !!
The scrapper operators should keep their own haul road smooth. I used to keep my ejection out, apron up and bowl down. Yall bouncing around for no reason.
Man, for a second I thought you were giving your 2 cents based on just watching the video, but no one would do that and expect to be taken seriously, right? You were out there. 😂 Seriously though, I don’t disagree with your theory, unfortunately that only works on conditions that aren’t saturated clay before the bottom line falls out. Believe me, we tried, and after one round it would just blow up again. With big dirt, the developers are paying based on yardage, and scraPers are the ones actually moving that yardage, the rest is just support to increase load counts. So if scraPers waste ALL day dragging out roads and not pulling loads, they don’t make the money, and the bosses are pissed. That’s usually when they bring in a blade; long or messy hauls. It’s cheaper to pay one blade than slow down 6+ scraPers to smooth their own road continuously. I wouldn’t let my back go to waste in the name their money, but when you could easily be replaced by the next guy, you shut up and just get it done. So there actually were reasons oddly enough.
😂 31 years of moving dirt and I’ve never had my scrapers bouncing around like that. You have 6 scrapers there. They can smooth the haul road faster than the grader! Sometimes you have to sacrifice a little to go faster. It will all work out in the end. And as a boss I would never have my workers thinking about not doing something they think is good or be replaced. Dude you need to leave. I used to work for Kiewit. You should go there where you can grow. I see you know what you’re doing. I think you’re at the wrong company.