Cat's Biggest Scraper in action
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2018
- Caterpillar's 657G being Push loaded by a D8T in California. The equipment belongs to a LB3 Enterprises. Yes a d8 is a bit small for a 657 push Cat but there was only one scraper working so it was uneconomical to have a D10 attending to just one scraper #biggestscraper #bulldozer #excavator
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I’ve never seen a 657 in person but I’ve ran plenty of 8’s in my time and too see it get dwarfed by that scraper truly brings into perspective how big they really are
You can't hardly see the stack
Dad worked at Decatur on the tractor line. (That's the front part) He was an assembler first, then a "G" adjuster, ended up as an inspector. 32 years at retirement. He pretty much knew every nut and bolt on the models built before '86. Those were the machinery that were used to build the interstate system. Think about the amount of dirt moved in THAT project.
Operated a new D9 to rip and push scrapers at Clinton power plant in 1976. Huge!
@@johnpogue3394 I knew guys on that job. Where do live?
Shelbyville now, Decatur then.
@@johnpogue3394 I have family all around there. Went through there in August, traveling from Taylorville to Effingham.
Gary Schmidt Back when America built things. Now it will take 100+ years for EPA approval to build a bike lane.
Super video. The D8 really puts the awesome size of the 657 in perspective.
The D8 is a bit small to push the 657 but it's a downhill push and only one 657 was running. So it would have been pretty uneconomical to devote a D10 to it
Cheap dirt, undergear for 8T is way cheaper versus 10
Awesome Earthmovers it’s a d6 t
Wrong....also d6t dosen't have parallelogram rippers
this should not happen the scraper has huge engine it should need a dozer to help it to cross a simple slope if so waste of power and fuel
I escorted a 637K from Mount Vernon, IL to Eloy, AZ. Massive machine. We where 110’ long and weighed 210,000 lbs.
That scraper makes that 8 look like a 6
I was thinking exactly the same thing. I was in padfoot working with a D8 yesterday, and thought the 8 was huge.
this is the best and clearest video fotage I've ever seen on RUclips! Nice work!
Is it true that Cat is no longer making the 657?
Nice video but I'll like to see a D 11 back there pushing it... that D 8 looks like a tonko too that machine!
I've been around large mining equipment, all my life . I was around everything except ,"PANS," as we call them. Watching 657s on video , doesn't do them justice . These things are huge.
I LOVE THAT DOZER TURBO!!!
Thanks for making this video that 657 is awesome machine
Have to admit great video quality
Is that d8 on topcon?
Cat has made a scraper bigger than a 657. They built a 666 in the late 60's early 70's. They were a 660 with a D343 added to the rear. They ran a 346 in the front. 9sp torque divider front trans, 3sp rear. I spent a couple years working on them in the early 80's. The 666 also had the fastest ground speed of any Cat machine.
657B 139,000lbs..about 69.5 tons empty. 44 yd cap.I have no knowledge of anything newer than a 'B' 666B 130,000..about 65 tons empty. 54 yd. capacity 259,000 lbs loaded
The reason they were fast is because Cat made them run 45 mph @ governed speed. D346 and D343 were overhead cam engines, which meant that overspeed would result in cam boxes lifted and heads busted to hell, sooo, They went as fast as they went...to try add a little speed going down hill would result in a catastrophic engine failure. 40 years experience with Caterpillar.
Was there not a 657 triple, not offered by cat but built specifically for a huge earthmoving project
@@gbarnewall1 there was, my grandfather worked on it!
@@gbarnewall1 Yep , there was , Peterson I think made it. LT 360 would be the biggest scraper made, triple bowl, 360 yds, google it if U want to see a big scraper.
whats the use of the material they mining?
What is the antenna looking thing sticking up in back of the dozer blade?
The GPS for cutting grade.. it tells operator to cut dirt out or lift the blade and leave dirt to raise or lower grade
Hell yea let the big boys eat!! Awsome vid
Awesome video! I enjoy watching these videos 🚜
We use D8T in our work,incredible machine,powerfull👏
Pan only had half a load.
Does it need the help pushing or does that just make the job faster?
normally there are 4 engines loading! the other two are the scraper BEHIND,,,IN A PUSH / pull setup
Does anyone know the capacity of a 657 in cubic yards? Thanks.
57 plus
how much fuel does one of them scrapers use?
Look up the fuel capacity. Cat designs every machine to be capable to work a 12hr shift (if I remember right...it was 12 or 10 hrs.) on one full tank of fuel.
I know of 2 bosses that if they seen that scraper leaving the cut without dirt falling off the sides and running over ,you would be sent home and not return,waste of fuel and capacity.
Like I first thought until I realised they were only cutting out a specific area which is why they were not hooking multiple scrapers together or the dozer deep ripping.
I agree......but I believe this was a training site.....
Lewy rockdahou, why would you train with the biggest scraper in the world?the door was hardly open.
My thoughts also
@@jameslindley8318 I trained on 797 haul truck the biggest CAT makes....
What are they doing? what's going on?
good video about biggest tractor scraper ftom caterpillar.
what about the scraper with a D10 front wagon then?. that thing is sick
That 9 looks small when it's next to that 657 !!! Awesome
It's an 8
Never thought I'd say an 8 is small lol.
Not to mention the box blade isn't a push blade. Above all, the shock load on the eight is a fuel guzzle.
@Geo Thomas No shock load when you're pushing pans, huh? Dam one f us fr a fool. (you)
Can the D8 operator pick up Sky Atlantic with that antenna? LOL
nice drone work
I have never seen that additional wing on the side of a dozer before. I wonder how good it works
its a slope board, for cutting slopes
@Geo Thomas I like that idea, would love to try one out. Used grader plenty of times, Dozer would be sweet too.
They’re good, lots of retards rip them off though trying to cut with them, mainly meant for pushing loose material
I like that use to run D11 cats and Trsckhoes, and backhoe Operation Engineers sweet carry on patriots
I wonder what my great grandfather, a mule skinner, would have thought of these beasts...
Dozer operator is working his ass off
High speed reverse is awesome for that undercarriage. Grousers getting short, track looks tight too. Cost per hour on that UC has got to be high.
thats what i thought,,,that iron must cost 50 bux an hour just rails.
8 looks like 6 pushing a 627
Always push with the blade in float, especially "7's".
I think in this situation the 657 using the dual engines with a push from the D8T was just enough. It looks like they were cutting a road, unless that was a waterway with all the rock stockpiled on it. It is amazing how 1 machine with a GPS can cut grade without a grade checker watching. In fact when the dozer made that pass with the dozer blade down he was checking the grade with the GPS. It looked like it was to grade cus he didn't do anything else.
That's a BIG cut
Is that the biggest Cat scraper currently in production? I seem to remember a 660
660 and 666 have been out of production for many years. The 657 is the largest in current production at 44 yards heaped but the 660/666 are the largest that Cat made at 54 yards heaped. Cat do make a coal bowl 657 which is larger than the 660/666 at 73 yards heaped but that's a different application than dirt. 657 runs 600/440hp whereas the 660/666B ran up to 550/400hp
Cool footage, but I would have liked it a lot more without that ultra wide-angle lens. I don't understand the reason so many people prefer an extremely distorted image in their photography nowadays. You could get the same shot with a normal lens by positioning the camera farther away.
Not one puff of smoke from those rigs 👍
That thing is huge
thats what girls tell me all the time
Great vid thanks
i got told to fill that bowl rite up.seems like a shame running 1 57 and a 8
657's massive..must weigh 60-70 tonnes empty..thanks for showing!
Thanks..not too far off then..
Whueayuh was dis @?
Comes with free dozer
Videos from 'Awesome Eathmovers' r always awesome, and the d8 guy is a 'smooth operator' what I don't get however is why with the scraper's front & rear engines, it still has to be helped all the time.
Rose Enninful They can self load but a dozer makes the process so much quicker. You can also get the dirt heaped in the box with the extra push from a dozer. You can see in this video that the dozer is also ripping the dirt to make it easier on the scraper as the material they are moving is almost like rock.
@@AwesomeEarthmovers OK, thanks for the enlightenment
@Casas Inspiradoras Yes it has traction. AE explained it above. Making money in earth moving is about production rate amongst other things. Using a push cat increases the production rate. The scraper certainly can self-load but it would be slower than shown here. If the push cat was a D11, the scraper would load in half the time
Makes loading faster...also with the ability to hook up with another scraper to self load...
Ese tractor se ve juguete puchando el tornapul
That is one big scraper !
I ran a 21. I would love to take a 57 for a lap.
I ran the 57 off and on and the d8 for 5 years, loved it.
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Vaya mierda.....parece que estén de paseo......Llena eso rápido y a por otra....y el del bulldozer parece que le da susto meter el riper.......
what are they doing??
Housing Sub division
Awesome Earthmovers This doesn’t answer the question.
@@bobbydemondukes the question to start out with was kinda funky. Pretty open really.... could have just replied with "moving dirt" and that would have been an ok response.
That scraper doesn't seem that big, until you realize that D8 is 14' tall
Geo Thomas 12”
I’ve ran a 660 scraper back in the day. Two d9 pushcats. Bigger than that 57
That 8T just cruisers
What the scrapers capacity w the sideboards?
Around 30yrds
33 but the heap them to the 40's almost every time. I work for a CAT dealer and it's impressive to watch these things in action.
car or cat ?
44 yds in a 657B.....54 yds in a 666B
CAT stupid auto correct. The triple 6's are massive machines and they can haul ass but standing next to the older 657's with the 3412's up front and 3408's in the back tripled up is an impressive sight. The new C series motors don't have the same power or sound especially with the after treatment exhausts.
More like d8 ripper action. I want to see what that bad girl can cut without dozer prep
Great dozer operator
Just needed a little push to keep that Big girl moving and that's how you move dirt to..
Why even use a scraper? Doesn't the cost of the diesel gas and the cost of the machine make it obsolete to dozer/dumptruck set up...which seems like it would be faster.......opinions??
What is "diesel gas"? I know what "diesel fuel" is. Never heard of diesel "gas".
I thought a 660 was cats biggest scraper
I don’t see a triple 6 out there.....that’s not the biggest one made by cat but the biggest produced currently.
Geo Thomas weight really means nothing it’s the load it can carry and the triple 6 has a heaped capacity of 54 yards and the 657 is 44 heaped.And the triple 6 has been out of production since late 1960’s I believe.
so strong it needs a D8 to help it . ??? fill me in on the logistics of this boys..
even thoe it has twin engine it releives the stress on them
Where's the other fifty scrapers? that we usually get .
Oops 8 that is
D8 operator is extremely pro.
Why not turn around and rip both directions instead of backing up? Seems like you'd save a trip.
It makes bloody great bumps that wreck everyone's back and it's hard on the running gear
You can't do that without great cost...
...and reversing gives the converter a chance to cool, as they will during a long push or rip
All this work for a Walmart parking lot
I’ve run 57’s and there are straight up mountain movers. We would get a talking if we lifted the bowl before it was boiling over at the top
I love them...we stripped the gypsum mines in fort Dodge Iowa with them..pull to the edge start going over and bury the pan is your only brakes... Watched a slice of dirt roll up the back of the pan and thru the back window of the sceaper once...poor guy was filthy..
For sure! That extra yard or so, paid the bonus for the foremem. Blue hats one job, green hats another. Yellow hats too. One of my later jobs the foreman was a punk-ass kid (I was as well, then) who had never operated a 657 nor supervised them. As you might guess, it was a cluster f**k every day with that guy. We had six can on that job. After two weeks of crap we parked them about 10:00, lowered the bowls&shut engines down. Head man on that job rolls up&spouts the usual," get going or get fired". Our ace was production records that showed a sharp decline when wonder-boy started running the crew. Turns out he was fresh out of construction management school but not an operating engineer nor truck driver, nor crusher plant or lay down machine operator. He framed houses...one summer. He was also some kind of realitive to somebody important. It all worked out for us&we moved alot of dirt for them.
@@stevewilson9792 what a shit story
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I feel like I have seen this video before.
Jeff Wilson I put out another video a couple of months back of this, but filmed on a different camera. This video is filmed on a GoPro and Gimbal
Shame it dont say CATERPILLAR across the top o the rear engine
Great video
That "8" just loves to work, doesn't it! !
O shit it is a d8 wow that fucker look big
Great video but so many reactionary uninformed comments about how "inefficient" this operation is (poster already stated that a larger push tractor would have been more optimal), and how this scraper is "useless because it needs a push tractor". The commenters could have spent two minutes searching the web for why push cats are used, and saved embarrassing themselves with their comments. It's ok to be ignorant, but it's not ok to be stupid
Speaking of stupid
the single engine 666 was even bigger and dad said they pushed them with 3 D 9s..in 1967 or 68
That's awful hard on that D8
You have a better way of doing it then tell me and I’ll tell you why you’re wrong.
Isn't the cat 666 scraper the biggest
Hellof a skiner see how only puts ripper down as the cat will pull
simple fact is you don't need a push cat with a double barrel scraper
Reed Silvesan Yes they can fill themselves but to really heap the load you need a dozer
Correct, but..... while you don't *need* one, you make more money if you use one
Put a D10 on it and rip at the same time?
Read the description
@@Deere2154D Yep did that. Question still stands.
@@gregtaylor8327 clearly not if you have to ask the question.
@@Deere2154D not clear at all. Put a 10 on it and rip at same time.
@@gregtaylor8327 it's clear as water. It says right in the caption a 10 wouldn't be cost effective for one scraper. When you change oil in your vehicle do you change the oil and filter or replace the entire driveline?
speed up film at end flashing light on van not right speed
Robcop Westton it’s not sped up
@@AwesomeEarthmovers are you guys in need of any operators?
Cats biggest scrappers are 666 and 660s O’L son
Top con on the cat.. how embarrassing pay the extra 50k it's worth it.
Umm. Why doesnt he rip one run while pushing scraper ? I'd try it not sure if would work though
Biggest?nice try.....cat had the 666
i used to think they were big, tell i operated a komatsu 630E. you can haul a 657 in a 630E. also... how would it be to work in california tatter dirt? laughs, come to the rockies! think your dozer guy is an operator? come build a road out of rock where i am at. just an exppresion, have to import obviously.
2 engines on a scraper and still needs help...
Doesnt need help. Is more efficient
Why do you think they are set up factory with push pull? Sit in a seat before you open your mouth.
Wouldn't call that more efficient.
you wouldnt, but the professionals that move dirt know you can fill the bowl faster pushing with a dozer vs just the scraper alone. That's also why two or three is better then you can push pull.
Matt is an armchair operator, never set in the seat of a piece of equipment probably. But like many others will give advice on how it should be done "professionally "
Oh yes a good dozer operator flights back in reverse in 3rd gear..fn donkey brain.. not doing his body any good and certainly the running gear..an old experienced operator would take his time and more muck would have been shifted..
weak loading, push pulls should always operate in pairs, this doubles productivity and the dozer can be used at the fill, the driver didn't even fill the bowl, typical yanks.
If a piece of equipment NEEDS another piece of equipment to function properly, is it really a piece of equipment?
I know right, it's like all those dumb trailers on the road that NEED a truck to pull them - are they really pieces of equipment?.........
@@frontagulus lol, ha ha
I rolled a paddlewheel scraper off a huge dogleg left dump pile in 1998. I don’t remember what model, 3404 in the rear and a 3408 in the front. Did about 10,000 in damage, mostly to the hydraulic pony motor that turned the paddlewheel. We bought three of them from Iraq before the war they were used to make hail roads to the oil wells, all stickers were in Arabic.
That no d8 more like a d10 buddy I been in a d8 that one right there is bigger
Awesome
Why cant that dozer rip the dirt as he pushes the scraper? It doesnt have enuf power? Stupid wasting time
No idea do you