I understand the hate these engines get, but also, I still love them. The noise, the abuse they can take, the ability to interchange parts from biggest to (basically) the smallest engines. GM did a glorious job making an easy to build workhorse engine. And hearing 3 at once being pushed is just... to me beautiful music!
First time I ever heard a Detroit engine was in a Michigan front loader, next was an excavator, then a back hole, finally in trucks to, then I had to remind myself where have I heard that engine before, then it came to me in city buses, lmao I was about 7 years the first time i heard one of screaming demons, they catch my attention every time I hear one, that's a absolute beast of an engine 💯
Total agreement.... they were a beautiful mess of an engine... they were fuel hogs, they were useful at a limited RPM range... but... they would take years of abuse and neglect and just keep going.....We used them in fire trucks and they would get the shit run out of them.... and NEVER EVER FAIL.....
There was a quarry near me when I was young. They used a lot of Detroits. When the uke was climbing out of the hole or the Trojan loader would hit the pile your could hear them from my house. The good ole days!
Helped an old guy start a terex dump truck at a show when i was 13, he always kept it floored and i thought he was mad and that it was gonna blow. a year later, i learned about detroits and put two and two together. I hope him and his truck are well.
The summer before I went off to college I got a summer job with a grading company. My job was to drive an old dozer pulling a sheepsfoot compacting the fills. After a while I cajoled my way to running a “double barrel Euc” as our crowd called them. Seven days a week 12 hours a day and I loved it so much I almost did not go off to college. I wanted full time on the Euc’s. But my daddy’s wisdom won out. I went to college but never afterwards had a job I wanted to get up in the morning a go to like that job. Now I am retired and for my hours upon hours listening to those Detroits I have an aggravating case of tinnitus interfering with my sleep and almost every year my dermatologist cuts off a precancerous piece of skin. But I’d cherish some more hours seated between two screaming Detroits hauling dirt.
i know its been a long time since you wrote that comment, but Im Kind of in the Same situation altough Im only 20 yo now. Worked construction with modern equipment in the Summer breaks and I absolutely Loved it. Later Bought a '79 4.5 Ton excavator and did some minor Jobs with it. Loved that too. Having finished my Higher education Iam however starting my First Software development Job soon. My question is do you regret Not listening to your gut and working with heavy Equipment?
@@woidviatlalausbua8699 Yes I regret not listening to my little boy plays with machine toys side of me. But it was my gut that told me to get the education and do the jobs that were never as much fun but gave me a more disciplined life so I could better provide for others.
All those 2 strokes are is screaming noise at high RPMs and the horsepower is at high RPMs! Some don’t have much horsepower if you want it they have to scream! The 92 series Detroits are more powerful than the older 71 series. These old iron make you go deaf screaming all day long moving earth. Real unstoppable machines
When I was a kid I ran a straight truck with a cabover and a pup trailer and it had a 318 Detroit always ran good. I helped run a road grader in high school that had a detroit and it was pretty loud and now I collect military trucks and have a HEMTT 977 with an 8V92 detroit the engine is behind the cab and its once of the nicest trucks I have ever owned. The loudest detroit I have ever run was a US military Gama Goat its a 6 wheel drive amphibious vehicle and it had a 3-53 detroit and the owner asked me to drive it to town to the truck show of course I said sure and I swear it made it about 100 yds before I stopped and ran back to get my ear muffs, that little engine was so loud it seriously hurt your whole head! Muffs made it much more enjoyable!
I was in a Army Reserve unit that had some Gama Goats. Good mobility, huge level of maintenance. And There was a strict rule that anyone in the vehicle had to have earmuff type ear protection, no stick foam in your ears like on the rifle range.
I've got a 1966 Clark CHY-100 forklift, that had the option of a 3-53 Detroit for the diesel. Mine doesn't have it, has a Continental F-244 gas flathead straight six. I wish it did have the 3-53, even if they are some screaming little bastards.
So enjoyed that in the mid 80s I built a dam wall in Rhodesia on my farm using 4 terex 14s and a Cat D8 to push them. The wall stands 28mts high and they did a beautiful job the dam still there to this day.
Worked with a converted Terex dozer roller crushing scrub on the east coast of New Zealands north island. It had the cab over the radiator and twin winches on the back where the fuel tank was . Cool bit of gear to hear working
I watched a large cut and fill job back in the early 80’s cat euc & Terex all did about the same but the real factor in the productivity was the cut Forman waving a long orange wand about 5 feet long directing each scraper operator where to drop the bowl dozers would get behind the next available in the stead convoy that cut Forman made things look so easy , but his job was not easy . He got a lot of exercise moving around. The bottom line was a job well planed and executed
This is a memory jerker - when I started work at 18 years old in 1971, I used to have to monitor the cycle times of a mixed fleet of scrapers, Terex TS 24s and Cat 957s on the motorway projects we had running at the time in the UK. The dozers were usually Cat D9s … Good memories ❤️🇬🇧🇷🇴
As a Navy Seabee in 1969, we had just taken delivery on TS24's but, were not allowed to operate them yet ! So that meant we were stuck with the MRS scraper 4wd prime movers w/v 671 and push cat IH TD20's, get'er'done's
Awesome video, Thanks. Terex videos are rare on RUclips so it's nice to see new postings again on these Roaring Jimmy's. I have a 82-40 I am trying to get roaring down here in South Africa so these posts are great motivation for me.
.My Dad run Earthmovers for 25 and more years in Michigan. Hook 2 together and you were a push an pull.... The good o days building Interstate high ways.
I love a Detroit! They can wreck your hearing and vibrate the fillings out of your teeth! But the pros and using them where they shine makes all of the cons worth it. Pros: Relative simplicity, Uses unit injectors instead of one big expensive injection pump, RELIABILITY, easy to repair modular designs, and now you can find them cheap if not free! One special ability of Detroit 2 stroke diesels is that if you set it up properly you can allow a "controlled runaway, " UNDER LOAD, basically a purposeful override of the governor which allows the true maximum speed and fuel delivery. This is particularly useful in marine applications and in fact the Navy used this ability extensively for reaching "flank speed." Most famously in the landing craft of D-Day. The Detroits are very capable of withstanding a good deal more RPMs and fuel consumption for brief periods when allowed. Only under load was this done to prevent a true and likely damaging overspeed. Can you imagine being a soldier in a landing craft on D-Day.... you've left the mothership and are coming within range of German costal artillery.... with a shouted warning for the men to keep low, suddenly, the already screaming twin Detroit diesels reach a never before heard pitch. The exhaust output doubles, blackening the air behind each craft above the boiling wake. Nobody's sure how long the Jimmy's can take it but as the Germans open fire, nobody cares. Every bit of speed means American lives make it to the beach. Unbelieving, the German defenders above on the cliffs are presented with a wall of steel targets charging the beach suddenly much faster than a moment ago. The smoke is so thick it's helping to screen the Allied invaders. Then the sound hits, a terrifying, furiously screaming howl akin to a squadron of fighters piloted by the devils own banshees assaults their ears, and their hearts begin to race. Not believing their eyes and ears the Germans grip their machine guns tightly, suddenly very unsure of the battles outcome.
@@narcissistinjurygiver2932 look around old lay up yards for trucks and equipment. If you're on the coast a great place to look is boatyards and small vessel drydock repair facilities as very often Detroits are getting swapped for more efficient engines and the Jimmy's are basically scrapped!! I engineered on fishing boats in Alaska for years and have literally seen them rusting on the beach in rows... you either love or hate well....or tolerate a Detroit Diesel! There's no denying that there are much more efficient and powerful engines available now, in the same weight class. So folks are refitting all the time and VERY OFTEN the Detroit they are taking out are still great runners. I (damn near with tears in my eyes) saw a massive seine skiff in the Seaview East boatyard in Ballard, Washington, with the hull cut in half to remove guess what... a turbocharged V8-92 Detroit that had low hours since rebuild and ran PERFECTLY, Swapped for a six cylinder turbo Catapillar. They couldn't find a buyer for the big ol girl soon enough to suit them and sold it scrap! I talked to them about how awesome it was and they had good reasons for switching. (Honestly that's FAR more motor than just about any seine skiff needs and it was thirsty.... they said I could have it!! But damn I didn't have any way to transport, load unload or store it! So that's where my eyes got Misty watching it get rolled into a giant container truck with a front loader. The green paint streaks where they drug her across the pavement, the oil where she bled from having her oil pan smashed in, and then dropped 15 feet into a scrap dumpster. .. there ya go. That's what they call "progression"
Dude that scraper made its own song if you had a program we could record just the scraper throwing up and throttling down you can make a song out of it I liked it
I was a machinist at Terex (General Motors) in Hudson Ohio from 1973 till 1981. I’m retired now. We were a union shop, UAW. Great benefits, great pay. Was one on my best jobs. Komatso would always underbid us on contracts, (their government would subsidize the bid so they would win the bid). Foreign competition ( with help from their governments) put us out of business.
@@oldstudbuck3583 your right. From the mid 70’s on, both sides sold the working man down the river. The politicians let the GOOD paying jobs go overseas and kept the fast food jobs here. Now our kids and grandkids are gonna suffer. We should have stopped it when it began, but the politicians and media made it look like a good thing to open up trade with the Far East.
Thanks to GM head Charles Kettering’s son for invention of the 71 series and the 567 EMD locomotive and WWII LSTs V12 engine. I was surprised when rebuilding my 4-71 powered grader to find rubber grommets in the head. With both air and water cooling these engines stay on the cool side. Noisy, yes but the 53 series are louder.
TS-24's, 18's, B-70's and 72-71's were stock in trade on the Alaska pipeline, as my hearing can attest to. Personally, I leaned yellow. But the green machines did a huge amount of work. It all evolves into the earthmovers of today and what they look like and how they perform. The green machines had a huge impact in the industry and how it has evolved.
They have backup alarms, but you cant hear them over the engine. There wasnt a muffler made that could silence them old 2 strokes! You cant bog them or they will burn up, thats why they are always screaming revs.
These engines work great in earth moving, or generator applications where you need that power right at the red line like where these old 2 stroke DD's make it. I have a Terex wheel loader and an old Euclid dozer that move material well and reliable for the farm. Only thing is you MUST wear hearing protection if you don't want to be saying ''huh, what was that?'' years later like me. haha
From what I know about scrapers and pushers: push in a straight line. The job should have been planned to allow straight-line pushes. No turning allowed while being loaded. Spinning the wheels: a huge no-no. Tires are costly. They are a big percentage of owning and operating costs. Let the dozer do the work of obtaing the load. Maybe in this case of heavy earth/clay mix, a larger pusher might be needed. Another no-no: trying to obtain a heap every load. There's something called a load-growth curve: material flows into the bowl easily at first. At some point, resistance of the material already in the bowl slows the incoming material until it stops filling. It takes much more time to get the last few yards in than the first yards. Don't waste time excessively pushing. Remember, the point is TO MOVE AS MUCH material as possible, not wasting time heaping a load. Keep the cycle times as short as possible and move the earth!! All of the mistakes seen here raise the cost per yard of material moved. A good video nevertheless, but boy, those Detroits scream!! Those guys probably hear that in their sleep!
The land owner insisted that an excavator would be faster and let the excavator start first before having some issues with moisture hence they dug a 20ft sump in the deep end. The large hole we are working around is why in the video were pushing around curves. The rest of the acre and a half pond was all straight pushes and was dug in 2 days over memorial day weekend, so I’d say we did perfectly fine production pushing with equipment from the 70s
These guys must be amateurs,just playing,not operators, wheels spinning, overloaded ,dozer pushing and scraper almost jackknifed, im not a driver, fitter many moons ago .
They need a muffler on that 40 real bad, thats brutal to listen to. That 14 with two 4-71s you can barely hear run. Much more sideways pushing and they will need some new rear tires and a rad or two for the back of that 14, Brutal to watch.... Always amazed me at the goo that thoses 14s would draw thru, Best soft ground scraper Ever built. Its ok, you can hate on me Cat guys !!!
Fire the scraper operator! Spinning wheels in the cut is a no-no. Let the dozer do the work. Also, he's carrying the bowl too high on his way back to the cut, dangerous. Just another cowboy.
My goodness. 50 years ago a summer when i was in college i operated a pan like this stripping topsoil in new subdivision streets with a pusher just like that dozer. Probably the reason i wear hearing aids today. Man that pan was a beast. Memories.
Most scrapers seem to look like they just power right out. Even though that ones getting a push its able to spin its wheels👌 Pretty impressive old iron👍
Maybe it's just me, but the dozer seems to be the only one that you really hear 'screaming'... The scraper seems to make more of a high-pitched whistle sound?....
Sound of their own. The dozer operator should be way more to his left when the scraper comes into the cut so he has a more direct straight push onto him. Looked like not ideal conditions mind you.
Was the Terex brand of construction equipment cheaper than most of the other brands? Seems, when a company uses some other brand of major component (in this case, the engine), is this indicative of the brand's cost and value.
Euclid became terex after a lawsuit of some sort. The 82-40 we did the will it start video has a euclid front casting that denotes it as an early model where this 82-40 has a terex casting that denotes it being after the name change.
😊 como operador estuve la oportunidad de trabajar con estás máquinas y fue genial 😸 me recuerdos q el sistema que el fuerza propurzado con líquido de freno 🎉
Rayos yo no sabía que un motor Detroit diésel de alto poder y sonido que expele por su escape, tenía que esforzarse tanto para realizar un trabajo de empujar o recoger tierra,anivelando el montículo de terreno sea para la construcción de algún tipo de obra que se estába desarrollando,pues no embalde estos motores de fabricación Detroit diésel, tenía una vida útil sacrificada por las altas revoluciones con la que trabajaban,uffff se Ollé en demasiadas revoluciones y me imagino que ese torque era para mover grandes obstáculos,¿Cómo los fabricaban para que duraran tantas horas de trabajo?, también me imagino ese intervalo de cambio de aceite y filtros(aquí incluyo el del diésel y el del agua y el del aceite),que a lo mejor fue un aceite multigrado 10W40 (no se si para ese tiempo ya existía un aceite de ese tipo o a lo mejor fue monogrado,de un solo peso como SAE 40 pero para motores diesel) para motores diesel de esa época con un API Service con valor para el año que fue construido ese motor diesel Detroit.........😂😅😊❤
Scraperhand stop traveling with your can all the way up loaded or empty, cuz you're gonna lay that scraper over if you don't and it's a smoother ride with your cutting edge a foot off the ground instead of 2 feet.... Dozerhand, set up near the cut so you're traveling less and tag the stinger of that scraper straight on, cuz if you push the scraper at an angle around a corner, you will catch the scraper tire with the corner-bit of that dozerblade... Tires aren't cheap... Otherwise, nice job moving some material...
I understand the hate these engines get, but also, I still love them. The noise, the abuse they can take, the ability to interchange parts from biggest to (basically) the smallest engines. GM did a glorious job making an easy to build workhorse engine. And hearing 3 at once being pushed is just... to me beautiful music!
what hate? they run great, last forever and are pretty simple engines compared to newer diesels.
I've never heard anyone say they hated a Detroit.
First time I ever heard a Detroit engine was in a Michigan front loader, next was an excavator, then a back hole, finally in trucks to, then I had to remind myself where have I heard that engine before, then it came to me in city buses, lmao I was about 7 years the first time i heard one of screaming demons, they catch my attention every time I hear one, that's a absolute beast of an engine 💯
@@donnellwilliams3988 First time on a Timberjack 225 , still remember 45 years later.
Total agreement.... they were a beautiful mess of an engine... they were fuel hogs, they were useful at a limited RPM range... but... they would take years of abuse and neglect and just keep going.....We used them in fire trucks and they would get the shit run out of them.... and NEVER EVER FAIL.....
There was a quarry near me when I was young. They used a lot of Detroits. When the uke was climbing out of the hole or the Trojan loader would hit the pile your could hear them from my house. The good ole days!
Helped an old guy start a terex dump truck at a show when i was 13, he always kept it floored and i thought he was mad and that it was gonna blow. a year later, i learned about detroits and put two and two together. I hope him and his truck are well.
Engine noise you never forget ,reminds me of 50 years ago working on motorways in Uk
The summer before I went off to college I got a summer job with a grading company. My job was to drive an old dozer pulling a sheepsfoot compacting the fills. After a while I cajoled my way to running a “double barrel Euc” as our crowd called them. Seven days a week 12 hours a day and I loved it so much I almost did not go off to college. I wanted full time on the Euc’s. But my daddy’s wisdom won out. I went to college but never afterwards had a job I wanted to get up in the morning a go to like that job. Now I am retired and for my hours upon hours listening to those Detroits I have an aggravating case of tinnitus interfering with my sleep and almost every year my dermatologist cuts off a precancerous piece of skin. But I’d cherish some more hours seated between two screaming Detroits hauling dirt.
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@@nikson1520 todos nós temos boas lembranças
i know its been a long time since you wrote that comment, but Im Kind of in the Same situation altough Im only 20 yo now. Worked construction with modern equipment in the Summer breaks and I absolutely Loved it. Later Bought a '79 4.5 Ton excavator and did some minor Jobs with it. Loved that too. Having finished my Higher education Iam however starting my First Software development Job soon. My question is do you regret Not listening to your gut and working with heavy Equipment?
@@woidviatlalausbua8699 Yes I regret not listening to my little boy plays with machine toys side of me. But it was my gut that told me to get the education and do the jobs that were never as much fun but gave me a more disciplined life so I could better provide for others.
Just retired after 45 years as Operating Engineer loved it best job ever ran TS 14s and 24s watching this video and missing Operating 😊😊😊
I don’t care what anyone else says I think those are about the best sounding Diesel engines ever built
All those 2 strokes are is screaming noise at high RPMs and the horsepower is at high RPMs! Some don’t have much horsepower if you want it they have to scream! The 92 series Detroits are more powerful than the older 71 series. These old iron make you go deaf screaming all day long moving earth. Real unstoppable machines
When I was a kid I ran a straight truck with a cabover and a pup trailer and it had a 318 Detroit always ran good. I helped run a road grader in high school that had a detroit and it was pretty loud and now I collect military trucks and have a HEMTT 977 with an 8V92 detroit the engine is behind the cab and its once of the nicest trucks I have ever owned. The loudest detroit I have ever run was a US military Gama Goat its a 6 wheel drive amphibious vehicle and it had a 3-53 detroit and the owner asked me to drive it to town to the truck show of course I said sure and I swear it made it about 100 yds before I stopped and ran back to get my ear muffs, that little engine was so loud it seriously hurt your whole head! Muffs made it much more enjoyable!
I was in a Army Reserve unit that had some Gama Goats. Good mobility, huge level of maintenance. And There was a strict rule that anyone in the vehicle had to have earmuff type ear protection, no stick foam in your ears like on the rifle range.
I've got a 1966 Clark CHY-100 forklift, that had the option of a 3-53 Detroit for the diesel. Mine doesn't have it, has a Continental F-244 gas flathead straight six. I wish it did have the 3-53, even if they are some screaming little bastards.
So enjoyed that in the mid 80s I built a dam wall in Rhodesia on my farm using 4 terex 14s and a Cat D8 to push them. The wall stands 28mts high and they did a beautiful job the dam still there to this day.
That is incredibly cool
Those old "Euc's", when I was a kid, you could hear them miles away!
There was one in the sand pit next to our neighborhood used to run over every time that machine stared to work
Local Nascar
Worked with a converted Terex dozer roller crushing scrub on the east coast of New Zealands north island. It had the cab over the radiator and twin winches on the back where the fuel tank was . Cool bit of gear to hear working
Where abouts on the east coast? Y-wury station?
@@duncanandrew5103
Blue mountains east of Opotki The back of Oreti station down past Te kaha and the gentle Annie's south of Gisborne
I watched a large cut and fill job back in the early 80’s cat euc & Terex all did about the same but the real factor in the productivity was the cut Forman waving a long orange wand about 5 feet long directing each scraper operator where to drop the bowl dozers would get behind the next available in the stead convoy that cut Forman made things look so easy , but his job was not easy . He got a lot of exercise moving around. The bottom line was a job well planed and executed
This is a memory jerker - when I started work at 18 years old in 1971, I used to have to monitor the cycle times of a mixed fleet of scrapers, Terex TS 24s and Cat 957s on the motorway projects we had running at the time in the UK.
The dozers were usually Cat D9s …
Good memories ❤️🇬🇧🇷🇴
Those old bitches could move a lot of dirt that was about time I started. Cable stringing wasn't my passion
I was a Detroit mechanic for 28 yrs. And I know what you are saying is true! They will truly be missed!
Do you mean Cat 657 scraper
As a Navy Seabee in 1969, we had just taken delivery on TS24's but, were not allowed to operate them yet ! So
that meant we were stuck with the MRS scraper 4wd prime movers w/v 671 and push cat IH TD20's, get'er'done's
@NAMCBEO MRS now there's a brand not heard of in a while! All wheel drive !
One Loud. Obnoxious dozer lol Love it all , thank you!
Awesome video, Thanks. Terex videos are rare on RUclips so it's nice to see new postings again on these Roaring Jimmy's. I have a 82-40 I am trying to get roaring down here in South Africa so these posts are great motivation for me.
We bought the 82-40 and 82-50 out of a retired excavation companies row along with a ts-18 and ts-24b
buzzin dozen and a heavy foot, music to my ears 😂 and everyone else's
Luv me a screamin' Jimmy! Amazing engine design, they run forever and you can't kill 'em!
Worked on a job that had 2 TS24’s tied together, one operator, no push cat.
Never seen that better not get it stuck
I loved running these two 20 years ago
TS14 and 8240 Terex bulldozer what a great combination.
There’s been a few miles of highways built with that combination!
They are lighter in mud easier to push
.My Dad run Earthmovers for 25 and more years in Michigan. Hook 2 together and you were a push an pull.... The good o days building Interstate high ways.
I remember those dozers and front end loaders having those screaming Jimmy's can hear them a mile away
I love a Detroit! They can wreck your hearing and vibrate the fillings out of your teeth! But the pros and using them where they shine makes all of the cons worth it. Pros: Relative simplicity, Uses unit injectors instead of one big expensive injection pump, RELIABILITY, easy to repair modular designs, and now you can find them cheap if not free! One special ability of Detroit 2 stroke diesels is that if you set it up properly you can allow a "controlled runaway, " UNDER LOAD, basically a purposeful override of the governor which allows the true maximum speed and fuel delivery. This is particularly useful in marine applications and in fact the Navy used this ability extensively for reaching "flank speed." Most famously in the landing craft of D-Day. The Detroits are very capable of withstanding a good deal more RPMs and fuel consumption for brief periods when allowed. Only under load was this done to prevent a true and likely damaging overspeed. Can you imagine being a soldier in a landing craft on D-Day.... you've left the mothership and are coming within range of German costal artillery.... with a shouted warning for the men to keep low, suddenly, the already screaming twin Detroit diesels reach a never before heard pitch. The exhaust output doubles, blackening the air behind each craft above the boiling wake. Nobody's sure how long the Jimmy's can take it but as the Germans open fire, nobody cares. Every bit of speed means American lives make it to the beach. Unbelieving, the German defenders above on the cliffs are presented with a wall of steel targets charging the beach suddenly much faster than a moment ago. The smoke is so thick it's helping to screen the Allied invaders. Then the sound hits, a terrifying, furiously screaming howl akin to a squadron of fighters piloted by the devils own banshees assaults their ears, and their hearts begin to race. Not believing their eyes and ears the Germans grip their machine guns tightly, suddenly very unsure of the battles outcome.
where can i find one cheap? i would love to own one.
I think that would be the 567 series, in the Landing Ship, Tank, invented at the same time as 71 series.
@@narcissistinjurygiver2932 look around old lay up yards for trucks and equipment. If you're on the coast a great place to look is boatyards and small vessel drydock repair facilities as very often Detroits are getting swapped for more efficient engines and the Jimmy's are basically scrapped!! I engineered on fishing boats in Alaska for years and have literally seen them rusting on the beach in rows... you either love or hate well....or tolerate a Detroit Diesel! There's no denying that there are much more efficient and powerful engines available now, in the same weight class. So folks are refitting all the time and VERY OFTEN the Detroit they are taking out are still great runners. I (damn near with tears in my eyes) saw a massive seine skiff in the Seaview East boatyard in Ballard, Washington, with the hull cut in half to remove guess what... a turbocharged V8-92 Detroit that had low hours since rebuild and ran PERFECTLY, Swapped for a six cylinder turbo Catapillar. They couldn't find a buyer for the big ol girl soon enough to suit them and sold it scrap! I talked to them about how awesome it was and they had good reasons for switching. (Honestly that's FAR more motor than just about any seine skiff needs and it was thirsty.... they said I could have it!! But damn I didn't have any way to transport, load unload or store it! So that's where my eyes got Misty watching it get rolled into a giant container truck with a front loader. The green paint streaks where they drug her across the pavement, the oil where she bled from having her oil pan smashed in, and then dropped 15 feet into a scrap dumpster. .. there ya go. That's what they call "progression"
@@ripstephenhawking8787 that sucks. i will get one of these engines some day.
Tuned they dont vibrate
Boy, having to listen to that wine of those Detroit’s all day would get old fast. A 1960’s city bus x 10 lol😅
That dozer has the proper amount of FU in its tone; lots of neighborly love right there! Poor Mr. Scraper sounds like a Hoover Vaccum.
Indeed lol had the neighbors 4 miles away telling us they could hear me crack the throttle on the 82-40 when i came down the banks
Dude that scraper made its own song if you had a program we could record just the scraper throwing up and throttling down you can make a song out of it I liked it
Brand New
Cool to see this old equipment working.
Nothing sounds like a TS14 firing up on a 10 degree morning.
I was a machinist at Terex (General Motors) in Hudson Ohio from 1973 till 1981. I’m retired now. We were a union shop, UAW. Great benefits, great pay. Was one on my best jobs. Komatso would always underbid us on contracts, (their government would subsidize the bid so they would win the bid). Foreign competition ( with help from their governments) put us out of business.
I grew up in Hudson and still live in Hudson my uncle also worked at terex Great to see this post.
Now we see the effects of being sold out by our whore politicians (that includes Democrats) and greedy corporate executives.
@@oldstudbuck3583 your right. From the mid 70’s on, both sides sold the working man down the river. The politicians let the GOOD paying jobs go overseas and kept the fast food jobs here. Now our kids and grandkids are gonna suffer. We should have stopped it when it began, but the politicians and media made it look like a good thing to open up trade with the Far East.
Those junk engines put you out of business. Good for soldiers, who have no choice.
@@toddgittins5692 Those "junk" engines built America and many other countries !
I love the sound of those engines
Thanks to GM head Charles Kettering’s son for invention of the 71 series and the 567 EMD locomotive and WWII LSTs V12 engine. I was surprised when rebuilding my 4-71 powered grader to find rubber grommets in the head. With both air and water cooling these engines stay on the cool side. Noisy, yes but the 53 series are louder.
I love the 92s
TS 14 and an 8240 dozers. I ran both many times years ago. We called the TS 14's " mud Dobbers" they would go anyplace
8240s are one hell of a machine
First scraper I learned on. Could hold onto a 2:1 slope like nothing, sometimes steeper.
We called them lizards, could go anywhere with them
The rock I hid under never allowed me access to know detroit dozers even existed. I want one.
Thank you...I needed this music 🥰
These Detroit Diesels are loud, now i know the meaning of 'Screaming Jimmys'.
TS-24's, 18's, B-70's and 72-71's were stock in trade on the Alaska pipeline, as my hearing can attest to. Personally, I leaned yellow. But the green machines did a huge amount of work. It all evolves into the earthmovers of today and what they look like and how they perform. The green machines had a huge impact in the industry and how it has evolved.
Those old Detroit 2-stroke diesels were screamers!!!
That 8V-71 Detroit was screaming!
Abel construction still has four of those damn TS14B in regular service.... I'm one of the operators.
First big Scraper i ran was a 14B at Brubacher
@@jacobsabo181 great machines I just love listening to them scream
Old double barrel belly dragger pan! Love it!!
Hopefully will have the rest of the fleet up and operational by next spring
They have backup alarms, but you cant hear them over the engine. There wasnt a muffler made that could silence them old 2 strokes!
You cant bog them or they will burn up, thats why they are always screaming revs.
With straight pipes you couldn't hear the boss yelling
I love the noise…but not sure I could cope with a full day’s work with one!
DETROIT DIESEL: Turning diesel fuel into noise and POWER!
These engines work great in earth moving, or generator applications where you need that power right at the red line like where these old 2 stroke DD's make it. I have a Terex wheel loader and an old Euclid dozer that move material well and reliable for the farm. Only thing is you MUST wear hearing protection if you don't want to be saying ''huh, what was that?'' years later like me. haha
One of the best known way to turn diesel into noise
From what I know about scrapers and pushers: push in a straight line. The job should have been planned to allow straight-line pushes. No turning allowed while being loaded. Spinning the wheels: a huge no-no. Tires are costly. They are a big percentage of owning and operating costs. Let the dozer do the work of obtaing the load. Maybe in this case of heavy earth/clay mix, a larger pusher might be needed. Another no-no: trying to obtain a heap every load. There's something called a load-growth curve: material flows into the bowl easily at first. At some point, resistance of the material already in the bowl slows the incoming material until it stops filling. It takes much more time to get the last few yards in than the first yards. Don't waste time excessively pushing. Remember, the point is TO MOVE AS MUCH material as possible, not wasting time heaping a load. Keep the cycle times as short as possible and move the earth!! All of the mistakes seen here raise the cost per yard of material moved. A good video nevertheless, but boy, those Detroits scream!! Those guys probably hear that in their sleep!
If you are trying for efficiency, I’m guessing you wouldn’t use Terex Equip from the 70s….Just a guess.
@@mar3264 Perhaps these are "hobby" machines on a private job? Don't know.
@@mariotorres6287 Really shouldn’t have a machine without a ROPS on a commercial site, osha gets cranky about that.
The land owner insisted that an excavator would be faster and let the excavator start first before having some issues with moisture hence they dug a 20ft sump in the deep end. The large hole we are working around is why in the video were pushing around curves. The rest of the acre and a half pond was all straight pushes and was dug in 2 days over memorial day weekend, so I’d say we did perfectly fine production pushing with equipment from the 70s
These guys must be amateurs,just playing,not operators, wheels spinning, overloaded ,dozer pushing and scraper almost jackknifed, im not a driver, fitter many moons ago .
I’ve never seen such a bunch of rookies running equipment in my life
What do expect, they're bragging to me how great Terex is. THANK GOD, I never have climb in that crap again.
@@toddgittins5692Only thing dorks like you ever ran was Tonka trucks.
fkin mint😁 love these types of videos, no jaw jackin or anything just detriots singing
Love sound of an old screamin demon
Don't even have to be near a Detroit now days ears still hearing it. Ringggggg buzzzzzzzz
The "GREEN NEW DEAL " proudly brought to you by Terex and Detroit
Love it...the original‘Green New Deal’
Can you imagine operating one of those units all day w/out hearing protection!
@@dmotzing WHAT???
All kinds of headache producing noise and pretty much no dirt gettin moved.
How awesome is this
They need a muffler on that 40 real bad, thats brutal to listen to. That 14 with two 4-71s you can barely hear run. Much more sideways pushing and they will need some new rear tires and a rad or two for the back of that 14, Brutal to watch.... Always amazed me at the goo that thoses 14s would draw thru, Best soft ground scraper Ever built. Its ok, you can hate on me Cat guys !!!
Nice you got them all running nice. Awesome old school machines.
Fire the scraper operator! Spinning wheels in the cut is a no-no. Let the dozer do the work. Also, he's carrying the bowl too high on his way back to the cut, dangerous. Just another cowboy.
Everyone starts somewhere
What does carrying the bowl too high do? Cause the scraper to nose over too easy?
Causes the stinger to drag bottom when approaching the incline and makes the rear lose traction
Thank God for Cat equipment, instead of that loud pos
@@MiguelRodriguez-zz3cw like the cat equipment of that era had the operator in mind🙄
O how I don't miss riding one these double barrels all day long
My goodness. 50 years ago a summer when i was in college i operated a pan like this stripping topsoil in new subdivision streets with a pusher just like that dozer. Probably the reason i wear hearing aids today. Man that pan was a beast. Memories.
What did you say
Over 30 years working on GMs as a service technician, got 24/7 ringing in my ears to prove it.
@@raygale4198 let the Bells toll
I heard them all the way over from my place 3 miles away
Man that's music to my ears
Puts the pan down, thing stops immediately. Yep, they're powered by Detroit. Penny a pound.
Everyone thinks they are turning high rpms but they fire every time the piston comes up so it makes them sound faster.
euclid wwas my grandfathers company....where are u located??
love that sound.
All Detroit's have converters on them.. they convert horsepower into noise lol
Bulldozer is DEFINITLEY louder than other at 0:53, as you can hear the difference!!
Thats the truth lol
I like the sounds and the green dozer.
There's nothing worse than being on a construction site with 10 terex detroit diesel dirt pans screaming for 10 hours a day.
Scraper guy has no clue. When loading go straight.
Don’t think either of them have a clue 🤔
Scrapers are only good with a good operator otherwise they're a pain in the arse!
Hard to go in a straight line when digging a round pond with a 20ft hole in the middle. But you do you i guess
@@jarodwilson9481 I owned and ran ts14s for years-end yes I or 1 of my operators would do way better
@@jarodwilson9481 A circle is just a series of straight lines from top to bottom
Great video and good muck about for the lads.
Used to go full noise and drop the bowl, half full B4 the dozer pushed :):)
I spent maney years working with trex scrapers learn to keep the bowel down push in a straight line
You Did good Man!!!!
the government wasn't in charge now they are.
legendary country crackng an falling apart in front of are eyes sad.
Most scrapers seem to look like they just power right out. Even though that ones getting a push its able to spin its wheels👌 Pretty impressive old iron👍
Maybe it's just me, but the dozer seems to be the only one that you really hear 'screaming'... The scraper seems to make more of a high-pitched whistle sound?....
Great video, it makes feel like it's 1969 again.
After two days straight i felt like i was 69
I bet you did ,I spent some time on 14,s and I know exactly what you went through .
Sheer power! Where is the Terex Pan drivers seat belt ( 02:41) ?
I always seem to think to myself"they don't make em like they used ta- and that's a good thing!!!!"
Sound of their own. The dozer operator should be way more to his left when the scraper comes into the cut so he has a more direct straight push onto him. Looked like not ideal conditions mind you.
First person to comment that didn’t actually think it was an easy straight push
Was the Terex brand of construction equipment cheaper than most of the other brands? Seems, when a company uses some other brand of major component (in this case, the engine), is this indicative of the brand's cost and value.
the engine and the machines are made by general motors.
@@evananderson3350 Oh. Didn't know Terex was a GM company.
@@evananderson3350 Okay, how about Euclid with a Detroit engine?
@@robj2704 by the time they made that euclid scraper euclid was owned my gm also. that's why the two are the same color
Euclid became terex after a lawsuit of some sort. The 82-40 we did the will it start video has a euclid front casting that denotes it as an early model where this 82-40 has a terex casting that denotes it being after the name change.
😊 como operador estuve la oportunidad de trabajar con estás máquinas y fue genial 😸 me recuerdos q el sistema que el fuerza propurzado con líquido de freno 🎉
Love them screaming Detroit's
Great stuff!! Proper loud green meanies! Can't even hear the scrapers TWO 4-71s for the 8V71!
Would've bounced both operators off the job,loading like that...
Hard to fire the owners tough guy
@@jarodwilson9481B the only reason they gotta job lol
And the scraper driver would end up punching the dozer operator if he keeps licking up with the flat if the blade.
Experience has be lived watching the old and good operaters
I operated them when they were called Euclid.
Love the old school stuff but dang that thing is loud
Good though the teacher couldn't hear what you said
Ótimo vídeo. Obrigado por compartilhar.
Cool old equipment
They always sound like there going to blow up strainging so hard lol
That guy sure knows how to load a Pan.
no
Those screaming Jesus's would wake the dead .!!!!
"SEABEE" equipment
Rayos yo no sabía que un motor Detroit diésel de alto poder y sonido que expele por su escape, tenía que esforzarse tanto para realizar un trabajo de empujar o recoger tierra,anivelando el montículo de terreno sea para la construcción de algún tipo de obra que se estába desarrollando,pues no embalde estos motores de fabricación Detroit diésel, tenía una vida útil sacrificada por las altas revoluciones con la que trabajaban,uffff se Ollé en demasiadas revoluciones y me imagino que ese torque era para mover grandes obstáculos,¿Cómo los fabricaban para que duraran tantas horas de trabajo?, también me imagino ese intervalo de cambio de aceite y filtros(aquí incluyo el del diésel y el del agua y el del aceite),que a lo mejor fue un aceite multigrado 10W40 (no se si para ese tiempo ya existía un aceite de ese tipo o a lo mejor fue monogrado,de un solo peso como SAE 40 pero para motores diesel) para motores diesel de esa época con un API Service con valor para el año que fue construido ese motor diesel Detroit.........😂😅😊❤
Scraperhand stop traveling with your can all the way up loaded or empty, cuz you're gonna lay that scraper over if you don't and it's a smoother ride with your cutting edge a foot off the ground instead of 2 feet.... Dozerhand, set up near the cut so you're traveling less and tag the stinger of that scraper straight on, cuz if you push the scraper at an angle around a corner, you will catch the scraper tire with the corner-bit of that dozerblade... Tires aren't cheap... Otherwise, nice job moving some material...
I thought the exact same thing.
Hammer beasts
Great!!
DETROIT DIESEL: The soundtrack of work getting DONE!!!
THis dude aint no scraper operator for dam sure
Come run the clapped out thing and id pay to see you run it better. Has no hydraulics unless its floored and wont steer half the time when it doeswork
Operated an 8240 logging dozer, it had an 8V-71, powerful sumbitch, absolutely screamed… a D-8H is way easier to listen to.
It was much better when the muffler was still on it but it broke last winter amd i said to hell with it
@@jarodwilson9481 I understand completely, a box of earplugs is cheaper than a new muffler. 😎👊
They sound like they are screaming, but their rpms are pretty much the same as a 4 stroke diesel.
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